educate yourself /b/

then why am i able to see both the sun and the moon during the morning

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>>733485413

If this was the case and there was no curvature to the flat Earth the Sun would always be visible

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>>733485755

>>733485783
Then what's under the earth?

>>733485783
explain moon phases then ?

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How do you explain radar horizon?

>>733485242
If gravity doesn't exist what happens if you fap off the edge of the flat earth?

>>733485242
Kill yourself you dumb fag

>>733485783
>The seasons
>The days during that the sun doesn't go down in the north

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>>733486035

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs

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>>733485242

flattard can't explain for shit, their only reasons are: Perspective and government lied to us

>>733486110
So if there's no gravity why don't things like dropped sandwiches just float in the air?

>>733486110
Now I am curious. I know you are trolling, but where do fleat earthers think the center of gravity is?

>>733486233
dubs of truth

>>733485242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_YFrXfexnM

>>733486241
buoyancy

>>733486110
I don't understand. You think gravity would pull things north or south?

fuck this is stupid.

>>733486257
down, so australian must fall ? flat earth confirmed

>>733485413
Fucking kek, Australia only gets 6 hours of sun.

>>733485333
Wat? Have you seriously never seen a daytime moon?

>>733486257
Down

>>733485242
Do flat earthers believe in aliens from other flat planets?

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>>733486017

How do they explain horizon at all, or curvature of the earth visible above a certain altitude?

Or the sun setting below the horizon & sunlight refracting through the atmosphere causing a sunset?

Fuck these people are stupid. Anyone recall the two-bit Kang rapper that promotes this fucking nonsense?

>>733486110
>thinks gravity is a universal force that pulls everything to what is considered down in the universe
>doesn't realize that gravity is centered on large objects and it pulls it to the center
Either stupid as hell, or good b8

>>733486296
You convinced me, globe is a lie. Flat Earth über alles.

>>733486433
Moar liek Downs, amirite?

>>733486477
one word : perspective
they don't need to prove their point and if perspective can't explain it, it must be the government

Mate fucking call someone up on the other side of the world and ask them what time it is, fucking retards

>>733486433
>>733486349

But wouldn't then all water flow to the center of the flat earth, because it is closer to the gravitational pull?

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>>733486502
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>>733486571

Ha. What a cop out. How about Saturn's rings? Or asteroid belts...

>>733486619
government again, you know can see the space station from earth ?

>>733486477
There is no curve visible unless they use a fisheye lens. There is no disappearing, it's your limited focus, a zoom lens can show you that nothing goes around a curve. You're a nigger

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>>733486685
>o

>>733486712
because this is not a 2 feet curve

>>733486619
You could have at least used pics from 2001. What kind of theorist doesn't try the obvious Kubrick connection?

can one of you re- flat earthers explain moon phases? and blood moons?

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Think of the hundreds of thousands of employees at NASA/roscosmos/China's space program/amateur and pro astronomers.

Getting all of those people to keep a secret like that? Sounds plausible yeah....

>>733486712
Well the surface has planes, mountains, hills etc. No one claimed it's a perfect ball.

NASA IS JEWS
https://youtu.be/wFefATs9qkI

>>733486707

Curvature of the earth is visible at under 11000m, meaning pilots the world over see it with their own eyes every minute of every day, dumbass.

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>>733485893
This

>>733486712
The sun's not directly next to the earth you know?

Explain eclipses.

>>733486619
If only we had some sort of satellites that could take pictures. Oh well.

I guess i'll post it again... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs This video explains it all...

>>733486836
a blood moon is when a freebleeding feminist hikes up her skirt and moons you.

>>733486827
Turns out that Kubrick DID film the Apollo moon footage, but he was such a stickler for accuracy that he insisted on shooting on location.

What is the point about lying about the shape of the earth? Spending billions to cover up for what? What do they even gain from this? Also why is it that flat earthers give different reasons to the same questions? They cant even get their own lie straight

>>733486922
BZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong!

I was convinced years ago that this was just some bullshit funny someone came up with, but I'm completely convinced some people are actually stupid enough to believe the world is flat.

Also, why the fuck is it being kept secret if it was flat?? What monetary benifits does a government get by telling people the earth is round lmao?

>>733487169
kekles

>>733487292
I've bee on a plane and seen it for myself. Oh wait lemme guess, curved windows? Fisheye glasses?

>>733487243
I've never heard one solid answer for this. Benifits typically ensue secrecy in a government. What did they just say fuck it, let's add another lie to the list lmao!!!

>>733487463
Last time I asked someone said its a control thing. So they're going to spend all that money just to show that they can? I really don't get it.

>>733487463
This, plus knowledge that the Earth is a globe is older than current governments.

>>733487324
>but I'm completely convinced some people are actually stupid enough to believe the world is flat.
Ive got a friend who asked me one day "hey anon, you know how the earth isn't round right?" completely straight faced and then proceeded to show me vids trying to convince me it was flat.

>>733487243
That's the same thing I've been wondering myself. What would be the benefit of lying about it, as trying to cover it up would be so fucking costly thing to do.

For the regular people it's all the same what the shape of the Earth is on the long run, so a conspiracy to cover it up just doesn't make any sense.

>>733487758
Yeah its stupid. Not only that but all people need is a go pro and a weather balloon. Attach the go pro and let the balloon up and it'll show you the earths curve.

>>733487243
Easy, they don't want you to know what's on the other side of that ice wall, they tell you it's round so you don't go exploring and find that baphomet lives there.

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>>733485242
I laugh every time people try to get others to prove the Earth is not flat the fact is people have posted their evidence. I have yet to see anyone show any proof the Earth is flat NASA has shown countless pictures of Earth and other Planets every time the tinfoil hats they to discredit pictures NASA posts I believe this is why people at NASA don't care if you believe it or not.
Your free will to believe whatever you want to believe.

>>733487895
Oh yeah I forgot about that non existent ice wall. What's on the other side that they don't want you to see?

>>733488007
The secret to immortality.

>>733485242
Your flat earth doesn't make sense with the time zones and the way the Sun hits them.

>>733488156
The secret of immortality is easy enough: don't die.

>>733488493
Just set the death limit to infinite and keep respawning.

>>733485874
a layer of rice krispy treat

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If earth is flat, how d'you faggots explain the differences in solar radiation flux ?

This is the point in the thread that all of the impossible to answer questions have been asked.

Op will get real quiet now (if he's even still here)

If the earth is a ball why chineses don't talk english ?

>>733486712
Good thing the Sun is two centimeters away from the Earth.

All of them. One hundred percent. You can't get no higher than that, nyukka. You step in here, you getting raped. Right up the motherfucking brown eye, baby. I raped a few niggas myself. I ain't really enjoy it, not that much. Shit, it felt good to the motherfucker though. I ain't let that nigga kiss me or nothing, but I did tear that motherfucking ass up, nigga, I ain't gonna lie about it, but that's what the Mans oppressive system did to me.

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>>733489259
The sun travels above the middle line, duh.

>>733487921
ooh nice pic Composite over time I presume - how many images stacked?

I recently got an old 6 inch scope - no motor, no tracking, no computer, but the optics are good - and can at least see the cassini division, but no way I could get a decent photo

jealousy is a terrible thing.

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Daily reminder that flat earthers cannot agree on some of the following basic facts:

1: the geography of the earth. They cannot explain distances in the souther hemisphere without resorting to conspiracies.

2: Basic astronomy: they cannot explain or agree on lunar phases, solar or lunar eclipses, or even how far away the sun is.

3: Geology: they cannot explain seismology without resorting to "conspiracies".

4: Space travel: Again, they cannot explain it without having a global international conspiracy cabal.

5: Satellites. Watch satellite TV? impossible according to the FE crowd.

>>733489897
Good thing that you're a faggot.

>>733486619
Not sure if bait or retarded.
Who takes the pictures?: Craft approaching/leaving the ISS.
Where are the stars?: Out shone by the fucking Sun, just like day on Earth.
Where are the satellites?: How densely packed do you think low Earth Orbit is? There are 2,271 currently in orbit spread over an area larger than the surface of the Earth in area and 'volume'.
Go get a fucking decent telescope and view the station pass overhead, check the NASA sight for when it may be visible in your area. I have, don't just wank on the internet, seek to disprove your hypothesis.

>>733486837
Also everyone working in aeronautics, my uncle is not in on this conspiracy and he works on GPS.

>>733490349
daily reminder that you're a cuck who doesn't realize he's being trolled even on 4chan kek

>>733489259
dur guvmnt dun mak up clim8 changn

>>733490371
rip me

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>>733485242
Explain this

>>733490577
cuck! cuck! cuck! SQUAWK!

"cuck". What are you? a 16-year old? Grow up.

>>733485242
>No turtle or elephants
I give it a 3/10.

>>733486296
You understand that buoyancy is the settling of objects with density UNDER GRAVITY

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>>733490349
Jews. Case closed.

>>733490756
There's no space, boom.

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>>733485242
>tfw when you know OP is trolling, but that there are retards stupid enough to take the bait and try to backup the OPs argument.

I bet most of you fucks voted for Trump, too, thinking he'd be amazing.
>inb4 but Obama did dis

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>>733485242
If that were the case, every night would be a lunar eclipse, and solar eclipses wouldnt exist

>>733490756

Luuuul !!!!

>>733491028
The gummiment made it all up right? Space and all

>>733485783
>>733485413
kek, that's not how light works dummies.

>>733491591
Nah, they're just doing whatever they think they are. Doesn't need to be made up, just misunderstood.

>>733485242
if the earth is flat, why are the sun and moon a sphere?

>>733491901
they're also flat you dumbfuck

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>>733485242
bait desu ka?

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>>733485242
honestly we should concern ourselves with the shape of things to come. whatever the horizons geometry we can at least see it, consider it.

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>>733491752
Sure it does, kiddo.

>>733492019
Same could be said for those who believe in UFO's or other supernatural fairy tales. Humanity is a cancer and there is no cure.

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>>733492382
yea, hence whenever i see such a collection of guppies i post something like this.

plant a tree fuckers, so while you are exchanging hot air to no net gain... it will be improving the world just by being.

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Pic from NASA

>>733492108
the sun isn't a spot light, retard

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>>733492598
all the thought in your head do not effect physical action. we live in the physical medium, getting our amygdala tickled by the idea of a earth in various shapes does nothing for the shape it is in.

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>>733486035
>>733486241
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>>733486313
>>733490851
Gravity is weak force. Like really weak.
According to Quantum mechanics and CERN

>>733485242

video of the edge of the world or gtfo

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>>733493059
It's a big spotlight, you imbecile.

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>>733493269
This picture I mean.

>>733493375
Magnet > earth

>>733493366
wait, how do you think light works.

>>733493479
Real observable world > Science made up to accommodate and explain other theories.

>>733486750
Same sized sun on 2 feet compared to miles of ocean. Your right on this one. I hope this pic is just a troll pic...

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>>733493560
How come doesn't your dense mind understand such a simple example?

>>733485242
if the earth is really flat then why is it round?

>>733493738
heh... oh...enlighten.... me...

>>733493658
Just an example of perspective, me thinks. Probably not an troll tho.

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>>733493834
That's not up to me. You are free to enlighten thyself on your own free time, sir.

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>>733485242
Why is the moon round but the earth is flat?
And the sun?
Is everything flat in space?
Why would one thing be flat and not the other ?

>>733494016
Simple, they look round. Universe is flat supposedly and geocentrism seems to be a popular thing.

>>733494001
so your the type who gives a person enough rope to hang themselves with, yet is either a troll or ignorant... but has internet access. are you perhaps a young boy?

>>733494252
be sure to erase your history, dont be afraid to click on the porn here. there are better threads. do your homework. you dont want to not pretend to be this ignorant as a adult after all.

>>733494252
All life should be cherished, no ropes. Ropes are bad. And no, youth over.

>>733494204
>egocentrism

ftfy

>>733494436
it must be difficult for you being this way.

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>> 733494436
do you have a purpose to follow manchild?

>>733485242
You're a waste of oxygen.

Wait a second... How do you explain our atmosphere nog falling off the earth?

>>733495013
not*

>>733492108
This isn't even close to being accurate. The sun is not a giant flashlight floating above the earth. You are comparing a giant orb that emits light in all directions to a light source that emits light in a narrow range. Logic much you fucking dipshit?

>>733493375
Look up the equation to solve for gravity , it should clear things up. U need a lot of mass for a small amount of gravitational force.

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If u are a globe tard. This is ur master.

>>733495342
Well wouldn't the mass of the earth cause strong gravity
Yet u got new science like quantum mechanics and CERN doing stuff saying that earths gravity is weak fam.
Telling u to gg.

>>733495447
The knowledge that we live on a sphere is much older than that. Educate yourself, faggot.

>>733494553
Life is easy. Bombings and politics keep internet funny.

>>733495180
Nothing is accurate. That's the joke of it all. Everything is theorized, as are conspiracies.

>>733495631
Sadly that shit got stuck to the wall after him more efficiently. Also, it isn't really knowledge, merely calculations and observations to portray a certain belief. Nowadays also supporting its own belief system thanks to it.

>>733495586
You are conflating two different uses of the word "weak".

>>733496097
WTF are you talking about? You make no sense whatsoever.

These flat earthers are all the same, truly believe it and try their hardest to convince people.

Most people who aren't retarded easily disprove and leave op crying in corner.

Op and any accomplices quickly change to the "durr you got dun trolled" and then go full autism in thread.

>>733487855
How much is a weather balloon?

>>733496447
Thousands and thousands of cents.

>>733496362
Jokes on you, fool.

>>733496510
See? I told you

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Oops forgot pic

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>there are people who actually think that the earth is flat. They don't just troll about it.

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>>733496605
The curve is pretty big in Antarctica because its the south pole and on bottom of the globe.

being a pilot and having flown at 40k feet I can tell you the earth is round. This is simple you cucks. Take a cheap camera, Connect to a Cheap model rocket and blast it off. You will see the curvature of the earth. Fucking morons, please educate yourself

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>>733496605
It's funny cause it's true

>>733485242
why no one fell off the side?

Deceivers said Isaiah said ball and not circle. Let's be real
A circle and a global are not the same.
Isaiah 40:22 - [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

>>733496888
Cameras have fish eye lenses though, makes it look curved. At least according to flat earthers that is..

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>>733496823
>there are people who actually think that the earth is a globe. They don't just know any better.

>>733496888
xekd

>>733496888
Do it with a solid glass pane in a 90 degree angle in front of your face and you'll have some merit with your words, you cuck fuck.

>>733496921
They can't get to the sides.

>>733496996
right, every single camera in existence has a fisheye lens, are you perhaps in a 3rd world country that somehow has internet?

>>733497124
but why

>>733497163
I don't believe it, just telling you what every flat earther would say.

>>733497163
Luckily not every camera and thus there are plenty of videos out there without the imaginary curve.

>>733497000
It was really fun the first few months about supporting that the earth is flat.
Good laughs.
But. c'mon man, step out of your bubble.
It's one think to criticize NASA for their fakery bullshit, that they did because of the cold war/hide ayy lmaos.
And another totally new level to actually think that the earth is a fucking flat infinite plane.
Get real.

Bash on Nasa, those fuckers deserve it for all the information withholding

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>>733496605
made the whole thread better

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>>733496888
Yep

>>733485413
But how do you explain an eclipse?

>>733497214
Too cold, too expensive, antarctic treaty, dangerous, etc. Some fellow went independently and got some of his crew lost while they were on the antarctic wall exploring. The ocean is pretty bad ass there.

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>>733497321

>>733496715
lol I know a flat earther I'll have to do dis one day

>>733497334
They can't, just like they can't explain season/solstices/progression of equinox or the easiest question of all WHY

>>733497569
Cause made it happen fam
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"

>>733497288
One shouldn't bash any idea for the sake of doing it. Just appreciate the imagination behind it, be it NASA or ages old tale that the earth is flat. I don't support any idea personally as everything is flawed in the end. Religious nuts give a bad image to everything, be it Christians, Islams or Atheists.

NASA sucks tho and fanbois will never get anything else, than a never ending space fantasy story which promises an age of exploring. Past generation had the moon, now we got mars. Woop woop.

>>733497321
Sadly the moment when the angle tilts upwards, so does the curve. Thus creating an curve illusion. Or maybe it's a hollow earth? Omg.

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>>733497741
Okay, well the BIBLE says that, but does it say anything about an eclipse? (That's when the moon blocks the sun) Pic related, solar eclipse (the moon is blocking the sun)

>>733486110
gravity comes from the center of the planet not the bottom lol..

>>733497090
wtf are you trying to say?

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>>733485242
educate yourlogic

>>733497944
Humans always want answer for everything. And when we cant find one, we make one up. If it supports the common dogma, it holds.

>>733485242
Ooh this such funny trolling how clever and original

>>733498032
You will see a curve if your god damn plane window is curved.

>>733497741
You can quote scripture, good for you. Still doesn't answer any questions or prove earth is flat.

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>>733497880
Na just flat plane. Flat realm if u will.
Big old square plane. Circle in the square is filled with water and the dry land in the circle is the earth we live in.
Picture is fixed now.

>>733486712
The earth does not have a radius of 1 meter morons

>>733498303
Can clearly see the curvature in picture...

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This is what the world really looks like, we are lied to by our government because if the turtle is female when she finally finds her mate we're all fucked

>>733485755
It's always visible from Earth...

>>733498147
Oh, you mean "airplane". That's even more retarded than I thought. Airplanes don't all have "curved" windows, and model rockets don't tend to have any windows at all. You gan get cameras for though. The Estes company makes them in the US.

>>733498282
Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..."

Psalm 104:5: "Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken."

Isaiah 45:18: "...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast..."

>>733498106
But we CAN explain an eclipse. The earth is round. The moon is round. The sun is the center of the solar system. Since the earth orbits the sun, and the moon orbits the earth, sometimes the moon blocks out the sun. Makes sense to me.

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Looks round to me.

>>733498303
Still looks curved, back2photoshop4u

>>733498504
You'll get good pictures on a rocket with a good camera, good videos even. That's also why they do exist. They don't however, have any curve on them. As it simply doesn't exist without curved lenses or terrible viewing angle what distorts the images even more.

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>>733486619
Then explain why you can see it with your own eyes flying through space.

>>733486619
You can actually see the space station make it's orbit every 90 minutes or so. It just looks like a light traveling across the night sky.

>>733493069
One is harmless, the other can kill you.
One is groomed as a pet, the other is a wild animal.

Kill yourself with your 9gag watermark.

>>733498862
And if you can get a pair of binoculars on it, you can clearly see it look like the pictures of ISS

>>733498395
Oh yeah. U sure can. Seeing miles and miles and miles.
It's not 100 % flat land but let me tell u. It's not round either. Like how they want u to think.
Once ppl figure out the photoshop bs they are on to something but if it's fixed like th r picture is.
Ppl will still say "u-u-U can still see the curvature and ball earth.
No. With the whole each mile the earth curves 8 inches or w.e. the math is.
I'm sure the curvature math is changed accordingly

>>733498570
Makes sense, because that's how it has been thought of. Before Kepler, there were many more who theorized how it all worked. And most work was rather similar in result, but the part "HOW" was always different. The moon looks round, the sun looks round but is the earth round? Sure, it makes sense.

>>733498605
Cool, that pic was take through the rings of Saturn, right? I heard about these photos

>>733486477
B.o.B.
He's a flat earther

>>733485413
You could still see the moon in the day sky often, but it's not there all the time.
The simplest logic can just a gigantic hole in this stupid conspiracy theory

>>733498955
It was taken outside of Saturn's orbit by the Voyager I space probe.

>>733498896
>One is a terrible result of human interference, one is perfectly natural and healthy.

>>733498948
The problem I have with flat earth theory is WHY would anyone need to lie about the shape of the earth? Why the massive cover-up? Who really cares, how does it affect me, and what difference does it make if the earth is not the shape I think it is?

A Solar Eclipse occurs when the moon passes in front of the sun.
A Lunar Eclipse occurs about twice a year when a satellite of the sun passes between the sun and moon.
This satellite is called the Shadow Object. Its orbital plane is tilted at an angle of about 5°10' to the sun's orbital plane, making eclipses possible only when the three bodies (Sun, Object, and Moon) are aligned and when the moon is crossing the sun's orbital plane (at a point called the node). Within a given year, considering the orbitals of these celestial bodies, a maximum of three lunar eclipses can occur. Despite the fact that there are more solar than lunar eclipses each year, over time many more lunar eclipses are seen at any single location on earth than solar eclipses. This occurs because a lunar eclipse can be seen from the entire half of the earth beneath the moon at that time, while a solar eclipse is visible only along a narrow path on the earth's surface.
Total lunar eclipses come in clusters. There can be two or three during a period of a year or a year and a half, followed by a lull of two or three years before another round begins. When you add partial eclipses there can be three in a calendar year and again, it's quite possible to have none at all.
The shadow object is never seen because it orbits close to the sun. As the sun's powerful vertical rays hit the atmosphere during the day they will scatter and blot out nearly every single star and celestial body in the sky. We are never given a glimpse of the celestial bodies which appear near the sun during the day - they are completely washed out by the sun's light.
It is estimated that the Shadow Object is around five to ten miles in diameter. Since it is somewhat close to the sun the manifestation of its penumbra upon the moon appears as a magnified projection. This is similar to how during a shadow puppet show your hand's shadow can make a large magnified projection upon your bedroom wall as you move it closer to the flashlight.

>>733498934
Why are all the other planets round then?

>>733486707
>A zoom lens can show you that nothing goes around a curve
>zoom in on rounded corner
>can see around corner
Wew lad

>>733498553
So by YOUR interpretation this all means the earth is flat...

Earth cannot be shaken...
Earthquakes...
Earth doesn't move..
Orbit and day/night prove differently...

What else you got anon? If all you're going to use is scripture then I suggest we address some of the books conveniently left out of the bible, let's start with book of Enoch.

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>>733486619

Gravity would make a flat earth collapse in a round shape.

>>733499476
That's no moon, it's a space station!

>>733499140
Myeah well, I would suppose that it mostly intrigues people. Especially since there is no coherent proof of flat earth but you can ponder about the whole idea around it. What if, why, how etc. Why the massive cover-up though? No idea, but once you discredit a source such as NASA... The door is open to all sorts of thoughts.

Some care, it's the same for people who fancy alien conspiracies or satanist politicians. Both have reasonable sources what might lead you to believe in them... Not to forget the large pedophile rings.

In the end, it's mostly a hobby to people, an interest. That's all. Wont affect a lot, but it can take your time--like any hobby.

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>>733499538

>>733498053
Tesla did say firmament and this pic does make sense.

Now to find out if there are cameras without curved lenses.

>>733499140
That and how would they keep everyone that knows quiet? These are the answers flat earthers never have, they'll just ignore us.

>>733499198
They are just lights in the sky.
Some are wondering stars which ppl believe are planets

>>733499477
But what if gravity isn't what we think of it?

>>733493069
Intelligence in humans?
Hahahahahshshs

>>733499646
The truth is out there.

I've still yet to hear a flat-earther explain gravity.

Why does something fall when you drop it?
What is buoyancy?
What is density?
Why does something more dense move "down" and not a different direction?
What is "down"?

Physics has very in depth explanations to all of these questions. When things are simplified flat-earthers end up describing what we call gravity without using the term gravity. the flat Earth hypothesis (it is insulting to call it a theory) falls apart if you can't discredit gravity, which is pretty much impossible because gravity exists.

>>733499700
But you can see that they are planets, and they are round. All you need is a basic telescope. And they don't really "wander" they have a predicable path around their orbits of the Sun. Everything else is round up there, but not Earth? There is no logic to that.

>>733499660
I've heard that working for NASA can be quite dangerous, a lot accidents happen. Super random surely though. To answer your question though, you could think of it as a triangle and shit falls down from the top. Bottom layers are none the wiser.

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>>733485242

A flat earth dont explain why we see some stars in one hemisphere and others constelations in the other hemisphere.

>>733499417
Psalm 96:10 Say among the heathen(you) that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.

Okay than start fam.
I've read a few chapters on Enoch

>>733500004
Or celestial poles

>>733499796
a dense object falls through a less dense medium

>>733500058
I could quote a story about Santa Clause if you like. It's as historically and scientifically accurate as the bible.

>>733492108
I found the retard

>>733500080
You're not allowed to get away with not explaining that.

Again, what is density?
What is "falling"?
What causes a dense object to "fall" through a less dense medium?

I have math to describe why these things happen that is proven. What do you have?

>>733500004
When ur in southern hampshire.
The stars are upside down.
Be in room draw something on the ceiling. Walk across room and look at it. It's upside down .

>>733499796
Then you simply haven't looked into the "Flat Earth" idea by yourself.

>>733500060
right, what about the Polar star...checkmate flat earthers.

>>733500224
I found the retard

>>733497414
Electornic

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>>733499912
>bottom layers..

Yeah, all those minions watching live feed from space...all of the amateur/pro astronomers..

Guess they're all just bottom of the "triangle" right?

>>733500080
but WHY?

that isnt even remotely close to a basic answer.

>>733500250
But you're wrong

>>733500250
and whats the point...

>>733500058
I believe in god, I'm just not a 1500bc Hebrew that believes the earth is flat.

Oh wait lemme guess...the earth being a globe is a trick the devil is pulling on us right?

>>733500156
Yeah u could but I wouldn't get triggered.
They have down a good job programming u via public schools and tell a vision. To engage trigger-ness when using see Christians, or the mention of God.
Like it just pisses off ppl so much. I don't understand it.
In the history of man kind. The global model was laughed at. Than tech advances and they Photoshop it and masses who have never seen a photo shop will believe.
As our tech and gfx advances we can now spot Photoshop something ppl years ago couldn't do.
Now we're realizing some fuckery is a foot.

>>733498934
>It's not round, because I don't know shit.

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>>733496888
Trips never lie

Outside the sheer stupidity of this whole idea, the real question is why? What is the incentive for the entire scientific community to lie about the shape of the earth? The level of collusion between the entire global community of astrophysicists, and the scientific community at large would have to be airtight. What do they have to gain by perpetuating this myth of our planet being a sphere? The sheer scope and resources required to maintain such a facade is mind boggling. Other theories about moon landing, global warming, etc. all have clear significant reasons motivating their supposed existence. I don't see the motive on this. People are fucking retarded to take this shit seriously.

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>>733500404
Yes.

The common heliocentric model was theorized long time ago and everything since then has mostly reinforced it as new theories have been built around it. That's how it works.

>>733500718
Bout the 15th time that's been asked, usually ignored but they might answer. (Don't expect anything mind blowing)

>>733500595
Lol well if ur in a room. It's flat right.
So that would only work if ur in a flat plane or flat realm.
If earth is spinning 1000 mphs and it's going around the sun millions of mph wouldn't the stars every night from all over the world be different. Like usa would see a set of stars that Australia will never see cause it's bottom of the ball and technically would always see downward of space when they look up.

> The level of collusion between the entire global community of astrophysicists, and the scientific community at large would have to be airtight.

not just them.

Geographers and cartographers making maps would instnatly see measurements are wrong.

Geologists using seismology would instantly know the earth isnt a sphere when they record tremors through the crust and mantle.

GPS software engineers, and the people making GPS-enabled machines.

Airlines, whose pilots would see if they werent flying where the maps suggested.

Sailors who had the same. Especially those doing things like traditional navigation.

And that's just a few of those who'd all have to be "in on it", alongside astronomers, physicists, and scientists.

>>733500718
It's not lying. They are just doing whatever a scientist would do. Research the data, find new theories and analyze findings. It might seem mind boggling but the more you venture into it, the more it COULD make sense.

>>733499140
Flat earth comes from geocentristic ideas stemming from GOD creating us and the heavens

Fun Fact:
Most flat earth models put the sun at 3000 miles above the ground. The problem there is that, from the United States, the sun would NEVER get below about 15 degrees ABOVE the horizon from late spring to early fall. This is an unavoidable fact of geometry. Results may vary a degree or two depending on exact location but it's roughly a bit more than your fist held at arms length above the horizon. That's the lowest the sun would get in the sky.

So, if any of you are flat earthers from the USA who agree with the 3000 mile high sun, you can see proof tonight that the flat earth model doesn't work.

>>733500250
Hampshire

>>733501124
But it does require lying, as there are tens of thousands of pictures of our globe not just from NASA but Russia, China, Japan, and google for Christ sakes

>>733501291
Ugh my fone sucks!!!

>>733501248
Your fun fact sounds even more retarded than the flat earth.

>>733500640
Okay, go dig a hole, you inept nigger. You can't even spell done or television.

>>733500848
Jesus anon, you think you sound smart but you're really not...I'll speak so even you can understand.

Lots of people work at NASA/roscosmos
These people see live feed from space
Let's say they see flat earth...

Lots of people both amateur/pro have telescopes..
They look into space..
Let's say they see flat planets..

Keeping up so far?

Ok...it is impossible to keep that many people quiet about such a massive cover up, Not to mention that there is no reason to lie in the first place.

Still with me?

Reasons to lie=0
People that would keep secret=0
Average iq of a flat earther=0-35 ish

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>>733496605
This is some next level truth

>>733500080
>>733500249
density <== the amount of matter in an amount of volume
falling <== the tendency of denser objects to translate toward the bottom of the earth
what causes it <=== like buoyancy, lesser density materials prefer to rest on top of more dense materials

number <== the dense materials will accelerate through the less dense matter at 9.81 m/s^2

easypeasy im not even a flat earther. (spoiler: there is no such thing as a flat earther. its just a meme)

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ert is rownd how do i flat

Guys don't be mean, it's not his fault he's retarded. Flat earth syndrome affects thousands across the "globe"

>>733501248
Sun is the greater light and the moon is lesser. Look how can moon have phases if it's lit up from sun rays. Like shouldn't it be bright and full every night.
Like how can half be dark and the other fully lit up? Where did all the sun rays go

>>733501394
Composites, mostly. They even disclose is openly. The ones taken from the height of ISS/MIR and whatever are all taken down-angle, which creates a curve illusion. Satellite pictures(renders) are a whole different subject.

Sure, you can think of it as lying. Astronauts might be completely legit as well. Flat earther would probably say that the density comes in play at the height they are at in space, same way a submarine can not float out of the ocean.

>>733500718
Bilderbergs illuminati FEMA camps

>>733501115
Do you have any idea how much money and resources the wealthy have to gain from keeping this a secret. It's just like the satanic sacrifices and jewish/euro monarchs. Not front page news but there is a solid rumble in the air. Certainly worth considering everything you can wouldn't you say? Curiosity remains king.

>>733501615
Can you tell me where 9.81 m/s^2 comes from?

>>733501832
Behind the Earth

>>733501573
Well my phone has a crack so quit bitching and acting like u can't figure it out.
And television is exactly that.
To tell-a-vision. To tell u what they want u to know and program u.

>>733500640
Read a book

Rolling for the government to preach Christianity

>>733501958
simple. observe an object translating towards the bottom of the earth. measure its acceleration. the fact that you have created a pseudoscience where you tie the mass of earth to a gravitational constant is not evidence that such a constant exists, nor is necessary to explain gravity.

Where does avogadro's number come from?

>>733501578
Plausible deniability is in the lenses. Round lenses make round images. Square lenses and flat images are the logical progression and persuit here.

>>733501902
Really? What is to gain by keeping this a secret? And why the hell does everything have to be a Jewish conspiracy. Those niggers can't do anything right, let alone secretly control the world.

>>733502036
Nah its a tele-vision
It teleports visuals to you.
I thought the entire education system was to tell me what they want me to know.
Advertisements are the only tell part.

>>733496362
Be patient with him, he's a flat-earther

>>733486233
Orbit seems to be an interesting choice of word when dealing with a flat earth

>>733501578
I'm not trying to sound smart, sorry for giving that impression. I will be more simpler on my response.

The people who work with live feed will see the same as we do, a video from the camera perspective. Conspiracist would call it all fake.

Seeing flat surfaces/planets makes no difference at all. We can see two with our own eyes and some dots, yeah they look round.

You mistake the average intelligence even in scientific communities it seems. They are just like us. They work and go home and do whatever they like to.

Based on your attitude though, you seem to be one of those degenerated scrubs who probably browse the trap threads as well. That's your business, and flat earth stuff is my business.

You can think whatever about it and so can I.

You're still a faggot though.

>>733502036
Read a book

>>733501478
which part do you not understand? you know how a right triangle work right? once you know the length and height, you do maths and get the angle of the hypotenuse. It's basically that.

>>733502046
>>733502339
Which one? Don't go half ass on me.
Tell me which book to read.

>>733502340
You don't realise that the Sun is much smaller that (((NASA))) has been telling you

>>733502220
All that sweet sweet "keep it a secret" money that is earned from keeping it a secret.

>>733502453
Any, just stop getting all of your information from the internet.

>>733486233
Then why is autum in the southern hemisphere and autumn in the northern?

>>733500718
If this all was a big hoax (including things like global warming), they'd probably want to keep it a secret because of how a flat earth would make global warming a bit less plausable

>>733502598
Internet. A place for information.
The very same making librarys obsolete.
Only ppl go there is for the computer to use and WiFi.
Probably to read up on information

>>733501832
Get a ball you can hold in your hand. Go into a room with a single light source (like a lamp) face the lamp, then turn 90 degree so the lamp is directly to your left (or right, doesn't matter) now hold out the ball in front of you. If you're not a complete idiot, looking at the bill will demonstrate how the moon has phases.

>>733502340
Bruh, math is a lie. Jews. They're all jews.

>>733502453
A brief history of time
Or an astronomy textbook

>>733502965
When one observes the phases of the moon he is simply observing the moon's day and night, a natural shadow from the sun illuminating half of the spherical moon at any one time.
The lunar phases vary cyclically according to the changing geometry of the Moon and Sun, which are constantly wobbling up and down and exchange altitudes as they rotate around the North Pole.
When the moon and sun are at the same altitude one half of the lunar surface is illuminated and pointing towards the sun, This is called the First Quarter Moon. When the observer looks up he will see a shadow cutting the moon in half. The boundary between the illuminated and unilluminated hemispheres is called the terminator.
When the moon is below the sun's altitude the moon is dark and a New Moon occurs.
When the moon is above the altitude of the sun the moon is fully lit and a Full Moon occurs.
The time between two full moons, or between successive occurrences of the same phase, is about 29.53 days (29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes) on average. This denotes the cycle of alternating altitudes.

>>733502120
We have experimental evidence of the gravitational constant which has been replicated many times over the past ~250 years. We have formulas describing why "9.81 m/s^2" appears to be consistent across the entirety of the planet. We have a theory as to why motion can be described like this. Most people call it gravity, you're free to call it what you want but we're essentially talking about the same thing.

Saying "well things accelerate downwards at a consistent rate and that's that" isn't satisfactory.

I think the first observation of avogradro's number was experimented in the mid 1800s.


some dude compared the mean free path of molecules in their gas phase to their liquid phase. You can get the mean free path by measuring the viscosity of the gas and assuming that the liquid consists of densely packed spheres. The estimate he got in the 1800s was NA≈4.7×1023, compared to the modern value of NA=6.022×1023, which we get by measuring the charge on single electrons. Not my area of physics though, my degree has emphasis on astronomy.

>>733501902
NASA has a 19.5 billion dollar budget for 2017. That'll get many nice pictures. Few rockets too.

>>733490775
Right!? I'm getting tired of this cuck shit, circles have more edges than /b nowadays

>>733490756
They don't believe in dinosaurs, and I quote, "dinosaurs are for kids" - Eddie bravo

A place for education

https://discord dot gg/wRezpMc

>>733503224
Astronomy is b.s. man.
Also here's a piece of history too.

In the book of Daniel, the Bible makes fun of astrologers and indicates that they are powerless to really observe the future. King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon had a disturbing dream that none of his astrologers or "wise men" could interpret.2 The King had ordered all the wise men, including Daniel, a young captive from Judah, to be executed. Daniel convinced the king's bodyguard that God would reveal the mystery to him and requested time to seek the answer. Having prayed to God and received the answer in a vision, Daniel reported to the king's chambers. Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar:

Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, show unto the king; but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you lay on your bed are these... (Daniel 2:27-28)

Later, when King Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzar's son, saw a finger appear and write on the wall at his party, he called in the astrologers, who, likewise, failed to interpret a writing that had appeared on the wall.3 These astrologers were again shown to be powerless deceivers.

God commanded His people, the nation of Israel, not to practice astrology by looking at "signs of the heavens." God calls such "signs" delusions:

Thus says the Lord, "Do not learn the way of the nations, And do not be terrified by the signs of the heavens Although the nations are terrified by them; For the customs of the peoples are delusion... (Jeremiah 10:2-3)

>>733503746
Astronomy is not the same as astrology.

>>733502538
The sun is a bright light source. In the flat earth model, when the sun is at the far side of the earth, it's roughly triple the distance away from the observer than what it was when it was directly overhead a noon. If the sun is 3000 miles up it would not be more than 9000-10000 miles away at midnight. So let me ask you this... if you are standing 3 feet away from 1000 watt light bulb, then move back to 10 feet away, your logic is basically saying that you would get no light from that distance. Does it? With the sun I've already proved that it still would be high enough in the sky to see at midnight. So you think just tripling the distance from the sun would make it disappear? really?

>>733503282
unrelated to your discussion but as someone who is studying chemistry can you explain further how we measure the charge on a single electron? Genuinely curious.

>>733503819
Both Still b.s. man
Point is.
Don't believe in ppl who study all that shit. They don't know they are talking about. It's like it's gonna help u in ur daily life anyway

>>733503746
>Astronomy is bs
Every flat earth argument ever

>>733503957
Sun clearly has some serious lumens. But no, it's about perspective in the real world. Your distance guess is solid though, as that is how it appears.

>>733503988
Faraday is your friend here.

Faraday discovered the law of electrodeposition. When you run a current through a wire suspended in an ionic solution, as the current flows, material will deposit on the cathode and on the anode. what Faraday discovered is that the number of moles of the material is strictly proportional to the total charge that passes from one end to the other. Faraday's constant is the number of moles deposited per unit of charge. This law is not always right, sometimes you get half of the expected number of moles of material deposited.

When the electron was discovered in 1899, the explanation of Faraday's effect was obvious--- the ions in solution were missing electrons, and the current flowed from the negative cathode by depositing electrons on the ions in solution, thereby removing them from the solution and depositing them on the electrode. Then Faraday's constant is the charge on the electron times Avogadro's number. The reason that you sometimes get half the expected number of moles is that sometimes the ions are doubly-ionized, they need two electrons to become uncharged.

Millikan's experiment found the charge on the electron directly, by measuring the discreteness of the force on a droplet suspended in an electric field. This determined Avogadro's number.

To back this number up on a more macro scale, you can look to Planck's blackbody law and Einstein's diffusion law, which both confirm the measurement of Millikan's experiments.

>>733504130
Like you said friend. They are just doing their job.

>>733504230
but again to reiterate, this is not my area of physics I have expertise in, just historical knowledge.

>>733504137
It is. U even have a piece of history if u actually read but U'll dismiss it. Say that it nvr happen cause it's in the bible that we all must hate.

>>733503746
are we supposed to take you remotely seriously, when you don't even know the difference between astronomy, and astrology?