WW3 when ?

For every Westerner killed by terrorism, kill 1 million muslims with a nuclear bomb. Give the Arab and muslim nations around the world 24 hours to decide who gets the bomb up their ass. Fuck god-believers, period.

You're crying because people got killed at a fucking Ariana Grande concert? Grow up, OP. Plus they were British people. No loss there.

We bombed them first.

This isn't "terrorism," it's a counter-attack.

>>733481508

Not Muslim. The cancer of humanity is Russians.

>>733481508
11th November 2018

>>733481508
Wait, i thought it was blacks?

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>>733484276
Certainly not. Pic related.

>>733483691
>>733483699
>>733484276
Muslim cucks. How does that Arab cock taste faggots?

Christians are obviously the cancer of humanity. Bunch of dumb inbreds that keep overbreeding because they don't teach their children to cover their dicks or take a pill.

>>733481508
>muslims win and create gigantic shitholes and they themselves end up suffering for thousands of years
Civilized people might lose,but muslims cannot win.

>>733481508
Gypsies are

>>733481508
newfags are cancer to /b/ but you aint fixing either....

>>733485547

Found the new guy

>>733481508
Saudi Arabia and Russia are the cancer of hummanity. They control everything behind the scenes.

>>733485547
that's right, now get the fuck out, newfag

>>733481508
>WW3 when ?
It started years ago. So far, only one side is really fighting.

https://join.skype.com/bHjuSEw5XkBb

>>733485519
Not really.They are usually too busy with their internal feuds to be a threat to normal people and they mostly live in their own villages. They might breed like rats but they have serious genetic problems,so they don't live long.
They were present in my country for 600 years and they are still a negligable percentage of the population.

>>733483691
you're hard... fucking children on 4chan trying to be edgy.. grow up kid

>>733485780
>US and Israel wreck shit for decades
>"muh terrorism"
>Russia does some questionable things
>"PUTIN IS EVIL!"

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>>733483699
>We bombed them first.
Saddam invaded Kuwait first, Americans pushing Saddam back into Iraq spawned Al Qaeda which turned into ISIS. Learn to history before defending these fucking savages.

>>733485902
Someone's taking shit personally today.

>>733483699
They deserved it first.

>>733486102
sorry.. just dont think kids being blown up at an event they have probably been looking forward to for ages by a brown man in the name of their imaginary friend allah...

fuck off anglo cuck, you are the greatest cancer to ever set foot on this planet. You bombed and enslaved milions of people troughout history, you deserve all this shit and ten times more

>>733486311
Are you going to finish this sentence?

>>733486070
what about invasion in 2003? over 1 million people died in iraq cuz of the shit us and uk caused

>>733486311
Cancer kills about 1500 people per day, they didn't ask for it either, well, minus the smokers.

>>733486070
Why exactly was Kuwait so important?The west did not give a shit when Saddam stirred shit with Iran and his own people.They even sold Saddam military equipment worth billions.

It's like how Assad and his wife turned to villains in the matter of days for no apparent reason.

>>733486479
Never would have happened if Saddam didn't invade Kuwait in 1990. It was little Bush "finishing" what big Bush didn't in the first Gulf war.

>>733486550
But the difference is the people who went to the concert were there for entertainment. It doesn't matter how much you dislike Ariana Grande it still doesn't warrant the deaths of innocent children. Of course this is 4chan and no one wants to seem like a pussy but those kids didn't deserve it just for liking an artist you hate.

>>733483691
You think it's normal for a bunch of psychotic cunts to go and butcher some young girls at a concert?

>>733486721
They went to indulge their degeneracy, which is what that generation has become obsessed with and filled by. Fuck em.

>>733486684
>Why exactly was Kuwait so important?
Oil
Oil
and Oil.
We weren't allies with Iraq or Iran. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait were US allies in 1990 and major suppliers of US and UK oil. Saddam needed more money after blowing almost all he had fighting Iran for 10 years so he invaded Kuwait and we would have been fucked without Kuwaiti oil.

>>733486799
But dont get me wrong, islam is cancer.

In 2 days, that's when it starts
https://youtu.be/wFefATs9qkI

>>733483699
>"we"
Implying westerners control their governments or even wanted those wars in the first place.

dumb piece of shit

>>733486929
Hard to govern the governing body.

>>733486070
what gives the us intervening in the middleeast conflicts at the first place, americans yelling let them kill each other, so why intervene? double standards

>>733486163
and you are the judge of that? typical ameritard world police hillybilly sheepfucker kys

>>733481508
I am Muslim.

Fuck all of you hateful infidels who celebrate and dance when you drop your MOAB on our children. Today it is us who will dance when your children are blown to bits.

>Allahu akbar!
>Islam will dominate

>>733487166
read
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>>733481508
>be dumb white poor american
>constantly elect rich republicans cuz they speak the gud werd of the Lord
>rich republican makes himself richer, makes me poorer
>blame democrats
>rich republicans put dictators into power and destabalize middle eastern countrys
>middle eastern countrys grow to hate interference and bomb americans
>be dumb and poor and slow thinking so blame middle eastern countrys for my problems now

This country is so goddamn stupid thank god I wasnt born with the IQ of some of you tards

>>733487257
Everyone has an opinion, thats mine. We all judge everything all day long based on our opinions.

>>733486929
So westerners get a free pass on controlling the government they elected but Muslims must all take responsibility for ISIS?

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>>733486358
what kind of moronic mindset is that?

>people barely related to you did shit before you even existed and now you get to pay for the crimes because I say so

>>733487368
Westerners controlling THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS.

Holy fuck are you dense.

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>>733487368
>controlling the government they elected
Hmmm, I'm going to drive to Washington DC and tell them to lower my taxes.
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>733487368
No, they just need to speak out more openly against it, just like westerners speak out constantly against their own government. Muslims give a little recorded orchestrated statement once in a while. Wheres the outrage in the streets over these bastards for hijacking the muslim faith. Actions speak louder than words, and bombs are pretty telling actions.

>>733487421
I don't see the problem. You keep bragging about how democracy is superior because it is "for the people, by the people" but when the shit hits the fan, it's all "it wasn't the people".

You're a typical western crybaby.

>>733483699

Ok sorry about the caps lock - i hit it by accident and didn't notice while I was typing..

WELL IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF mUSLIM AGRESSION - THEY STARTED IT. mOHAMMEND, MAY HE ROT IN ANY HELL THAT EXISTS, ATTACKED PEACEFUL CARAVANS AND TOWNS TO SLAUGHTER AND ENSLAVE AND STEAL AND RAPE AND FORCE-ABLY CONVERT. jIHAD IS JUST DOING WHAT THE so called "Prophet" did.

they raped and enslaved and stole their way across Europe in the middle ages, and they are just doing the same thing now.

>>733487544
Of course, in muslim majority and governed countries, speaking out against the government is suicide...kind of like north korea. Wonder why that is. Is it because killing is the only way muslims know to govern perhaps?

>>733486799
oh aren't you edgy.

I would say fuck you, but I am not gay, and not into fat retards.

>>733487641
I never claimed democracy is good in any sense. Don't put words on other people's mouths when it's convenient for you.

Democracy is the most violent form of government that exists.

>>733487544
Everytime they do speak out against it, you label it as "Muh Taqiyya" and the people who listen to such condemnation as "SJW cucks"....

You don't WANT peace. You want to hate Islam because hatred and division is what defines western culture.

>>733481508
Muslim here, with a message for you islamophobic people.

The West created this mess.

It was you who divided up the land.

It was you who put in the puppet governments.

It was you who built the oil wells on Muslim holy lands.

It was you who allowed the Jews to exterminate and enslave the Palestinians.

It was you who played geopolitical games with Iraq and Iran during their war.

It was you who gave Saddam chemical weapons.

It was you who caused the Ayatollah to come into power in Iran.

It was you who created the Mujaheddin, Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda.

It was you who killed 1 million children with your economic sanctions on Iraq.

It was you who, with your gluttonous oil consumption, gave power to Saudi Arabia and turned a blind eye to their funding of Wahhabi extremism.

It was you who abused the Arab world so much that they felt they had to attack your soil on 9/11.

It was you who started an endless massacre across all of Afghanistan in retaliation against a small group that lived there.

It was you who invaded Iraq unprovoked, destroyed it's infrastructure, massacred it's people, and left it in shambles in your wake.

It was you who covertly ignited civil wars in Libya and Syria because it suited your geopolitical interests, only to let the bloodbaths stagnate when your goals failed.

It was you who not only caused ISIS to exist, but allowed them to grow like a cancer unchecked.

It was you who destroyed the lives of millions of Arabs and forced them to leave their homeland.

You are the cause of all of this. Still you go ahead and blame us for all these tragic incidents. I'm not easily triggered but shit like this makes me really mad.

>>733487836
Yes, the Middle-East was so peaceful prior to the West's involvement.

>>733487828
Hate is a beautiful thing. Keeps the population at a manageable level.

Muslim here, with a message for you islamophobic people.

The West created this mess.

It was you who divided up the land.

It was you who put in the puppet governments.

It was you who built the oil wells on Muslim holy lands.

It was you who allowed the Jews to exterminate and enslave the Palestinians.

It was you who played geopolitical games with Iraq and Iran during their war.

It was you who gave Saddam chemical weapons.

It was you who caused the Ayatollah to come into power in Iran.

It was you who created the Mujaheddin, Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda.

It was you who killed 1 million children with your economic sanctions on Iraq.

It was you who, with your gluttonous oil consumption, gave power to Saudi Arabia and turned a blind eye to their funding of Wahhabi extremism.

It was you who abused the Arab world so much that they felt they had to attack your soil on 9/11.

It was you who started an endless massacre across all of Afghanistan in retaliation against a small group that lived there.

It was you who invaded Iraq unprovoked, destroyed it's infrastructure, massacred it's people, and left it in shambles in your wake.

It was you who covertly ignited civil wars in Libya and Syria because it suited your geopolitical interests, only to let the bloodbaths stagnate when your goals failed.

It was you who not only caused ISIS to exist, but allowed them to grow like a cancer unchecked.

It was you who destroyed the lives of millions of Arabs and forced them to leave their homeland.

You are the cause of all of this. Still you go ahead and blame us for all these tragic incidents. I'm not easily triggered but shit like this makes me really mad.

>>733487887
Still is, they just report it with a bias. Its all a conspiracy anon.

i lived in a muslim majority country,

i can tell u something, they are truly different than the rest of the world

it's like almost impossible to reason with them.

it's a lost cause. tried and i'll just save my breath with them.

>>733487737
>I never claimed democracy is good in any sense.
Funny how you wouldn't go on national TV and say this. Westerners always change their stance on world affairs depending on when it's convenient for them.
Not a single organization, politician, movement or ideology in the West denounces democracy... but of course I'm supposed to know that you are the only person that does.
If you people really hate democracy, go out and show it. Actions speak louder than words.

>>733488023
You sound mad bro. Be happy, there are goats enough for all.

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>>733488023
>go and reform your government
>meanwhile let me base my government on an outdated religion

>>733487336
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>>733488023
That's untrue. Many people in the libertarian movement are openly anti democracy, and the average joe doesn't really have a high concept of democratic government either, even if he doesn't support ideas openly against it.

You are just (ironically) blaming everyone in the west for the actions of a few nutcases (the politicians). Way to be hypocrite, you liberal/muslim or whatever else you are.

>>733488150
I thought Westerners were capable of anything under democratic values... I guess that isn't working out so well after all.

Is it really democracy a majority of the population is powerless to stop a few from using most of their GDP and millions of soldiers in war? You people are so delusional it is hilarious.

>>733488277
>You are just (ironically) blaming everyone in the west for the actions of a few nutcases (the politicians).

That's the way the world works, kiddo. Next you're going to tell me that the actions of a few terrorists shouldn't be blamed on ALL Muslims.

You're such a dumb cunt. All Muslims are ISIS. All westerners are warmongers.There is nothing more to it.

>>733488592
Get a load of this tool.

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>>733488438
>imblying I am westerner

Keep trying the whole "I get to decide what you say, do and think" thing, you're doing a wonderful job.

>>733481508
I have no problem with sand niggers, it's the ones with Kalashnikovs and IED's that I have a problem with. Joining paras to fight the sister-fucking Islamic state cuntholes next year.

>>733481508
*JEWS
GET YOUR SHIT RIGHT
JEWS CAUSED EVERYTHING
MISLIMS WOULD BE BOMBINH EACHOTHER IF THERE WASNT FOR JEWS

>>733488815
>I get to decide what you say, do and think
Lol, apparently you can't even decide what you say do or think under your precious "democracy".

You people are delusional. Islam will come and take over soon enough, don't worry.

>>733487368
the ideology of the west does not create atrocities, those happen as a result of human nature*

the ideology of islam creates atrocities by providing a framework in which martyrdom is seen as one of (if not the single best) best things you can do with your life.

there is no common law, constitution, folk tale, or anything of the sort in the west that advocates suicide and the killing of innocents to achieve eternal paradise


*the 'soft' version of this argument is that the ideology of the west at least creates *less* atrocities than islam

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Just had an awesome blowjob. Thought i should share.

>>733489151

Did you give him a tip?

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>>733481508
We're ready, come at us filthy infidels

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>>733481508
>ww3 when
Muslims don't have the power to beat the West so it'd not be a world war.

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>>733489349
god bless you cock dumper much like those cocks have blessed this thread

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>>733486799
Spotted the Muslim.

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>>733489553
Just making islam fags feel at home.

>>733489072
So....

>Westerners do evil things WITHOUT an ideology so that makes it better.

The very fact that you proudly claim that all of the West's evil history was done without religious motivation just proves that the eradication of religion will do nothing to stop human nature.

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>>733483699
Fuck you freedom-hater go die for your pig god.
The left's solution is to "stop hating" and let the terrorists kill who they want and the right's solution is to be more like nazis which ironically means being more like islam since they share the same cruel puritanical views.
The real solution is militarized freedom. Go after ideologies that are a threat to free will not give up our own or invite in the enemies of freedom. This means the eradication of islam, christcucks, alt-blight, communists, nazis, catholics, jews, monarchists and anyone else who shares the view that humanity should be cucked, they're all just pallet swapped muslims.

>>733489352
That kind of mentality will make you lose the war

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>>733489816
Im out, shit to do. But remember the good old muslim addage: a girl is for children, a boy is for pleasure.

>>733489768
This guy gets it.

We need to destroy the entire world in a nuclear conflagration the likes of which has only been imagined. When everyone is dead then we will all be free.

>>733486684
Oil. We supported Iraq because they were fighting Iran, which was our enemy after the Islamic revolution. Don't worry, we also sold weapons to the Iranians. Syria is an issue because the west thought they could replace the Russian influence with a regime change. They didn't think through the whole terrorist army piece though.

>>733489614
perhaps i should have said
>the *CURRENT* ideology of the west
clearly the west has done some fucked up shit in the name of ideology

there will always be some amount of fucked up shit going on because of human nature that is unavoidable, but why the fuck would add ideological evil on top of that? Just because some bad exists doesnt mean would should open the floodgates of hell and let all the demons loose.

we can reduce (not eliminate) human suffering if we reform or eradicate islam or secularize (which would require reform of islam)

>>733486701
Sure it would have. Saddam was always going to be an issue. After the cold war it was no longer popular to support bloody dictatorships, so we would have been sucked in one way or another.

>>733486070
You backwards fuckup. This whole thing started with the british invasion on the ottomans empire.

>>733490094
>there will always be some amount of fucked up shit going on because of human nature that is unavoidable
>>733490094
>but why the fuck would add ideological evil on top of that?
So now you're saying that ideological motivation runs in "on top of" human nature and not independently of human nature... which is different to your first argument which gave a clear distinction.

>Just because some bad exists doesnt mean would should open the floodgates of hell and let all the demons loose.
"Some"? Most of the West's crimes were done in absence of religion until very recently. Just look at Nazism.

>we can reduce (not eliminate) human suffering if we reform or eradicate islam or secularize (which would require reform of islam)
But the perversion of Islam for war and power is human nature, much like Nazism perverted German nationalism and cultural pride to commit the holocaust.

>>733490476
it started with the ottomans invading the byzantine empire
(we can keep this going all day its a dumb argument)
>>733490612
>So now you're saying that ideological motivation runs in "on top of" human nature and not independently of human nature... which is different to your first argument which gave a clear distinction.
this is always what i meant sorry if i didnt explain myself well

they are totally distinct, ideological violence is not motivated by human nature (although sometimes human nature will use ideology as a cover)
>"Some"? Most of the West's crimes were done in absence of religion until very recently. Just look at Nazism.
nazism had a doctrine, it is an ideology, it was one that resulted in much human suffering which is why it was rejected
islam has a doctrine, it is an ideology, it results in much human suffering and should be rejected
belief in god is just one aspect of islam, its also a belief in the afterlife, a belief about homosexuals, a belief about how one should dress, etc

>But the perversion of Islam for war and power is human nature
this is the case above of human nature using ideology as a cover, there is a totally distinct category of violence that is purely ideological

a suicide bomber killing 20 innocent civilians does not do this for power or greed, he will be dead, this makes no sense. He is motivated by the belief that his death will result in him living forever in paradise. Perhaps those at the top of these organizations are motivated by horrid human nature, but even still if we remove these ideological tools from their toolbox they will be that much less effective

>>733491570
>>So now you're saying that ideological motivation runs in "on top of" human nature and not independently of human nature... which is different to your first argument which gave a clear distinction.
wait no that isnt what i meant lol

they are distinct, sometimes overlapping, but distinct

>>733491570
>islam has a doctrine, it is an ideology, it results in much human suffering and should be rejected
But now you're saying it should be rejected, when in your previous post you said it should be reformed.

Christianity also had an ideology that responsible for much human suffering. We are told that it was not true Christianity but a perversion of it due to human nature.
Why is it wrong to say the same about Islam?>>733491570
>a suicide bomber killing 20 innocent civilians does not do this for power or greed, he will be dead, this makes no sense.
Exactly why it cannot be an accurate representation of Islam.

> He is motivated by the belief that his death will result in him living forever in paradise.
Wrong. ISIS is motivated to avenge their Muslim brothers and sisters killed by the West. Read ISIS's statement if you do not believe me.
Paradise in the afterlife for self-sacrifice is not the motivation, it is the reward as given by a perverted version of Islam.

A placed filled with muslims

https://discord dot gg/wRezpMc

>>733492519
>But now you're saying it should be rejected, when in your previous post you said it should be reformed.

one of the tenets of islam is that the koran is a perfect book written by god himself and can never be altered, this makes it mostly immune to reform (although not entirely). If reform is possible i fully support that, but its not clear to me how that will happen. Is nazism with ethno-nationalism, genocide, etc taken out of it still nazism? I think the difference between rejection and reform is semantic, reform is many smaller rejections.

>Christianity also had an ideology that responsible for much human suffering. We are told that it was not true Christianity but a perversion of it due to human nature.
Why is it wrong to say the same about Islam?
i reject that *all* of the catastrophe caused by Christianity is the result of human nature, surely some was just as some is in islam. You wont find me defending christianity.

>Wrong. ISIS is motivated to avenge their Muslim brothers and sisters killed by the West.

ISIS manifesto "why we hate you and why we fight you"
“We hate you first and foremost, because you are disbelievers, you reject the oneness of Allah.”
“We hate you because your secular, liberal societies permit the very things that Allah has prohibited while banning many of the things He has permitted.”
“In the case of the atheist fringe, we hate you and wage war against you because you disbelieve in the existence of your Lord and Creator.”
“We hate you for your crimes against Islam and wage war against you to punish you for your transgressions against our religion.”
“We hate you for your crimes against Muslims; your drones and fighter jets bombs, kill, and maim our people around the world.”
We hate you for invading our lands and fight you to repel you and drive you out.

>>733493221
>Paradise in the afterlife for self-sacrifice is not the motivation
how can you explain suicide in any other way? what would cause an individual to kill himself if he didnt believe that he would be saved in the afterlife? this is a fundamental part of islam, if you disagree then please go forth into the muslim world and help them reform, this is not a fringe view, this is the view of the majority of muslims across the world.

>>733493221
>one of the tenets of islam is that the koran is a perfect book written by god himself and can never be altered, this makes it mostly immune to reform (although not entirely)
And that's why nothing bad comes directly from the Quran. Not stoning, not beheading, not burqa.

>You wont find me defending christianity.
But you agree that the white people responsible for suffering in it's name were just misguided. Why can you not admit the same for Islam?

>ISIS manifesto "why we hate you and why we fight you"
This is exactly why ISIS is a fallacy. They switch motivations depending on when it suits them. The statement they released on this particular attack in Manchester cites the attacks of the West on Muslims.
Then when the West doesn't attack them for months, they publish those reasons in their magazines to drum up anger.

The world is full of double standards.

>>733493552
>how can you explain suicide in any other way? what would cause an individual to kill himself if he didnt believe that he would be saved in the afterlife?
Avengement of fallen family/clam/people.
Self-sacrfice for the "greater good".
Self-sacrifice to win a war.
Have you ever heard of Kamikaze pilots?

>>733494243
>Avengement of fallen family/clam/people.
tribalism is unfortunately human nature, but as you can see in the manifesto above that is 5th most important reason for ISIS according to them. But when a muslim kills himself and 20 other muslims (muslims are the primary victims of islamic extremists) clearly its not tribalism.

>Self-sacrfice for the "greater good".
ideology

>Self-sacrifice to win a war.
ideology

>Have you ever heard of Kamikaze pilots?
have you ever heard of bushido?
>Heroic Courage (勇? yū)
>Hiding like a turtle in a shell is not living at all. A true warrior must have heroic courage. It is absolutely risky. It is living life completely, fully and wonderfully. Heroic courage is not blind. It is intelligent and strong.

beliefs matter, what you believe dictates how you act. Some actions are better than others, islam disproportionately causes bad actions.

one can still criticize the west, I would argue we are morally obligated to, but right now islam is clearly worse and we must recognize that

>>733485902
This is 4chan /b/ you don't belong

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>>733488831
Yessss lets kill some mudslime

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>>733495169
>This is 4chan /b/ you don't belong

That's not for you to say Anon, anyone can come on /b/, it's newfag bitches like you telling others "the rules" who are not welcome.

Now fuck off.