ITT we make Australians jealous

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>>733367119

>>733366997
Fuck you liberal cuck

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>tasmania, australia
:/

>>733367495
the nbn was a fucking failure by all measures

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>>733367495
Honestly, I've seen worse from Australians.

In fact for australia your upload is downright great.

>>733367540

Yup, especially considering they were copying Verizon FiOS in the US for the FTTH rollout, but with FTTN they've fucked themselves for at least a decade, probably longer.

You are just jealous you don't have as many spiders as us.

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>>733367618

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>w-well its still f-fast
>900mbs is overkill anyways
>NBN is super f-fast

>>733367540
Actually the NBN was not the problem, the problem was you have blown fiber running from a carrier node directly into a telephone pillar, and then piggybacked over copper cable from pillars to housing. That was all Telstra and Turnbull not NBN. Also you lose signal because the copper is 65 years old, covered in acidic vaseline waterproofing agents and covering distances too great for copper to maintain properly.

I'm an NBN technician btw, ask me anything and I'll try to answer without hijacking thread too much.

>>733367755
Any chance a change in government would allow you guys to switch back to proper FTTH?

We are going to have to invest the money eventually, I don't see why we are doing the stop-gap FTTN when FTTH is obviously what is going to be needed long term.

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>>733367714
My wifi speeds are limited by my client device, my Galaxy Note5 maxes out around 300-400mbps over the air.

>>733367846
Theres already a plan in the works for FTTP in the next 10 years, but expect HTC cable in the meantime as a stopgap measure.

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>>733368009
What a shit show. It'll be 2030 by the time I can get even close to what OP has.

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FiOS hasn't upgraded my area to gigabit yet, hoping it happens soon though. I'm paying almost $145 a month for 150/150mbps but they only charge gigabit areas $70 a month. Hurry the fuck up verizon.

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at least it's free, i guess...

>>733369015
>faster than 59% of LV
not only is it free, it's better than the majority of people in your country.

>>733369149
because the majority lives in bumfuck nowhere and rely on mobile carriers for internet and most places don't have 4g, previous dorm had a stable 100Mb/s up and down

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>>733368538
>paying almost $145 a month for 150/150mbps but they only charge gigabit areas $70 a month

Yeah I went from $155 with 150/150mbps + TV + phone to like $100 a month with 1gigabit + TV + phone.

Yeah, have fun using your 50GB download allowances fucktards I'm happy downloading at 5MB/s for the whole month if I like.

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>>733366997

Ausfag here. I'm still trying to get over the fucking heatwave at the start of the year. I'll get to your complaint when your .png finishes rendering here.

>>733369684
we hit 35c this week and I thought that was hot, fuck that shit though.

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you guys make living in a shithole seem not that bad, also, wtf is up with the data caps? i pay like 10 jewros for an unlimited data plan for my phone and get all the 4g i could ever need

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>>733369671
lol? Verizon has never had a data cap.

Here is just the last 30 days on my desktop. There are 3 other laptops, and 3 other desktops that are also used daily by others in the house, so this is probably half of our total monthly data use.

We probably go 1.5-3TB a month every month.

>>733369980
In the US it just depends where you live, Verizon FiOS doesn't have any data caps at all however.

Comcast is the only big ISP I know which has data caps, and in this area they don't enforce it anyway.

As for LTE and 4G data, most cell providers these days offer unlimited LTE data plans, but they slow you down to 3G speeds after like 20-25GB in a month.

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>>733369919

It's not the maximum that kills you. It's the minimum, when it's five in the morning and it's still 36 degrees.

>>733369671
>1gbps down and up
>50GB download allowances
are you retarded?

Paying 20€ from unlimited 150mbps + unlimited calls + text messages
Also have unlimited 1gig fiber at home and it costs 49,90€.
Feels good to be finntard.

>>733370347
>Feels good to be finntard.
unless you live in 90% of the rest of finland, in which case get fucked and enjoy your VDSL

>>733370449
finland by the average speed is 10th globally, so it's not that bad, take a look at this https://www.akamai.com/us/en/multimedia/documents/state-of-the-internet/akamai-state-of-the-internet-report-q1-2016.pdf
a bunch of mildly interesting statistics

>>733370310
Yeah I know, later in the year it'll get hot here too.

Another month or two and we'll be having 30-35c minimums with 70%+ humidity.

>>733370575
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, Finland is certainly doing better than most countries. But it's like the OP, sure 1gbps is available to some people, but it's not like most of the country has access to speeds that fast, only those in the cities, or those lucky enough to live close to a fiber node.

>>733369998
>>733370337

It's a known fact throttling is used on your "unlimited" plans

>>733370743
This throttling?
>>733367241

>>733370680
yeah, i get that, that's why the US average is not that impressive, even though they have a growing fiber network going on

>>733367540
The NBN was an ill conceived idea that was always going to fail

You can either have

1) The least dense housing on the planet where everyone lives in a detached house at least 20m apart from everyone else in cities that sprawl for millions of square kilometres

Or

2) Fast internet

The 2 options are mutually exclusive

You choose

>>733371046
No they're not. You just have to bite the bullet and pay for underground fiber during the construction phase. If you mandate by law that every new property MUST have fiber conduit laid ready to be hooked up to a node, it would make things WAYYY easier, but you guys fucked up, and fucked up hard.

A node serves 400 houses. The farthest you will be from the node is about 1km.

Copper will deliver sufficient speeds over 1km... and it may actually get completed by 2020 rather that dreamboat Rudds plan of FTTH which saw about 5 suburbs rolled out on each city in the first 5 years.

The FTTN is designed to be a backbone to a future FTTH installation... which will take 50 years to roll out if people where being honest about it.

>>733371046

Yeah, and while the government and the schools keep pushing the 'science and technology' and 'new economy' agenda, the reality is that most of the population doesn't give a fuck about anything outside of the local pub anyway.

This fucking country should've never been colonised.

>>733371516
New subdivisions are all being installed with FTTH.

This isnt about them. Its about the 14 million existing homes and how to best improve thier internet in a timely manner

>>733371538
>A node serves 400 houses
What the fuck. How many GPON links per node?
Each GPON is 2.44gbps down and 1.2gbps up.

Verizon FiOS in the US does 1:8 or 1:4 splits.

>>733371617
>New subdivisions are all being installed with FTTH.
got any sources on that?

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kB/s makes me feel better about my shit internet

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>>733371933
kek

only options on the desktop site are mbps or kbps

>>733372243
Man fuck England

>>733372316
Yeah I really don't understand why england's internet is so shit, you're a tiny island with massive population density. It wouldn't be hard to get 60% of the nation hooked up with FTTH in 10 years.

Yet for some reason most of the country still seems to be on DSL or shitty cable providers. The only people with fiber are a few lucky pricks in London proper, or one of the few fiber projects elsewhere in the country.

>>733371928
https://www.opticomm.net.au/about-opticomm/our-communities/

Most of the land developers outsource comms to a few big players. Its a big selling point in new suburbs.

But you have to live beyond the black stump

>>733372502
Oh yeah, I knew there were some subdivisions that were doing it on their own. But it should be mandated by LAW for all new construction, and it should have been mandated back in 2010.

>>733372423
Fiber is not as rare as you think, live an hour outside London and my area has had it for a while. Just shit speeds idk why

>>733372630
>Just shit speeds idk why
then it's probably not fiber, or if it is, then it's so badly provisioned that it shouldn't label itself as fiber.

Unless you're getting 50/50mbps or more, it might as well be DSL or cable.

>>733366997
Don't mock the aussie, you fucking cunt.

>>733372630
Is it fiber to the curb/house or is it just a fiber back bone?

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>get this speed in australia
>obscure ISP with only a handful of customers
>isps customer support is one guy
>spends most of his time viewing everyone's browsing history

The sad reality for all you porn sucking net nerds is that the uptake in NBN ready suburbs is less than 50% and a good proportion of those dont even use the full potential of the line.

Its a service that wasnt needed in most cases. Anyone suggesting otherwise just wants the whole population to subsidize thier internerd

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>>733372727
What are you gonna do about it? Stutter step in online games because your ping is so shit?

>>733372946
Fuck off idiot you can't even watch a YouTube video without it freezing if you don't have NBN in this fucking shit hole

>>733373103
What i posted is the truth m8

>>733373080
>~9750 miles
>still gets almost 300mbps

fuck this gay earth.

>>733372828
I honestly couldn't tell you

>>733372946
You're retarded. It's not about what people are doing TODAY, we're supposed to be building nationwide infrastructure to support a growing online economy that will only become more and more important as time goes on. The internet isn't going anywhere, and shooting ourselves in the foot with this slow FTTN rollout isn't helping.

>>733373303
Well what speeds are they delivering?

If it's anything under 20mbps it's probably just backbone.

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I'm happy with my download for 1 person with a new copper line, upload could be better but oh well, I don't see a point in like massive download speeds like how often do you download 100gb files

>>733372693
It's 100% fiber.

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>>733373357
>how often do you download 100gb files

at least once or twice a week on average for me

>>733373358
So you have an ONT (optical network terminal) installed on your property? This converts the fiber into ethernet (or Coax) for use inside your home.

>>733373336
Average for fibre is probably around 40mbps, one company offers speeds up to 300mbps but is not widely available

>>733373307
TL;DR

>my pronz is slow, please susidise my internet average australia

>>733373629
It has nothing to do about porn your moron, if you think the internet is for porn I assume it's simply because you live in a country where doing anything but watching videos is basically pointless because of your slow speeds and massive ping times.
>>733373615
How about upload speeds? The classic tell-tale way to see if it's fiber is almost always upload speed. In the US most fiber providers give full symmetric speeds
(as seen here >>733367119
>>733368538)

>>733366997
>mfw Australian with internet that is twice as fast

>>733373758
Majority of people dont care for fast internet beyond netflix.

Why should they pay for uber speeds for the few percent that care?

>>733373866
lol, local networks don't count.

I doubt your undersea fiber cables even have the bandwidth to deal with 1gbps+ from a single connection.
>>733373916
Because if you dont your country will be left behind in the next 25-50 years.
In the US if you want to be a big youtuber or streamer, you just need to live somewhere with decent internet and have a decent computer. That simply can't happen in AUS because 99% of people couldn't watch the stream, and you probably couldn't afford the upload speed required to stream anyway.

tldr it stifles innovation, especially in the long term.

>>733373463
Correct

>>733374063
Sounds like they're just being cheap fucks then.

They probably only installed BPON ONTs which is why you're limited to like 40mbps.

The 300mbps provider is probably using GPON.

>>733373984
You are selling a dream (that suits your desires) to people who arent interested. Hence the take up rates of NBN.

It was a smart decision to switch to FTTN even though it triggered your autism and apparently smashed your dream

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>>733373758
This is the UK's fastest Internet and it apparently only offers 20mbps up

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>>733374248
>It was a smart decision to switch to FTTN
Yeah that's why they have plans to move back to FTTH in the next decade, because FTTN was suuuuch a good idea.
>>733374252
lol that's kinda sad. Around here i can get residential 2gbps for $149.99 a month, but since I only have 1gbps NICs in my network, it would be pointless to have over 1gbps.

>>733374325
This country is so behind in so many areas

>>733374325
You are a knob. FTTH is a long term plan (dream). The rates they were rolling it out was seeing a couple of suburbs each year reaching completion. If you knew the first thing about the logistics of hitting every house with a fibre you would be embarrased at your continual demanding oubursts on the internet.

FTTN is an achievable goal and will give everyone consistent speeds in an achievable timeframe... and act as a backbone to any future lower heirachy rollouts. But dont be expecting them to be rapid. May not even happen in your lifetime if you are in an old suburb.

Today I finally got NBN, 12Mbits down, 1Mbit up. It's pretty fucking dank.

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>>733374613
Just look at this shit man
Noice
Kinda wanna get the 100/40 plan for the fuck of it.

>>733374608
Booo hooo it costs money.

Fuck off with your excuses. Pay the fucking money now and you save 10 fold in the long term.

There is no real reason not to do FTTH if you can.

FTTH was ~$5,000 per house, FTTN is about $2100 per house.
So you save 50% in upfront costs but in 20 years when you have to upgrade it anyway you'll be spending at LEAST that much to upgrade, and probably far more. Where as if you did FTTH to begin with, you just have to upgrade the nodes, and maybe upgrade customer ONTs.


You're doing FTTN G-PON, while the US is working on FTTH NG-PON2 by mid 2020s. Which can provide 40gbps down and 10gbps up. Which would allow for 5 or 10gbps residential service by the mid 2020s.


Even if your entire country isn't FTTH, you should at least get your major cities wired up.

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>>733374905
check if the 1gbps upgrade is available in your area, shit's cash.

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>>733366997
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

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fuck

>>733374894
TL;DR

>please susidise my internet speedz

...or i may cry like a child on the internet

>>733375011
Yes it costs money, so does any vital infrastructure. If you want to fuck yourselves out of any chance of being a contributor to the greater internet community, by all means, you're already on the right track, keep going.

>>733374944
It says it is, I gotta update my contract

>>733375085
The average citizen doesnt care for the dream you are promising. They just want online banking and netflix

Thats the long and short of it.

>>733371561

>colonised

they way you aussies throw that word around makes the commonwealth laugh at you behind your back.

Australia wasn't a colony. it was a shithole where we sent shitheads we didn't want around us or our children.

>>733375226
>and netflix
which unless you're FTTH you can't even get 1080p, let alone 4k netflix.

Wait, how many of you murricans have data caps?

>>733375176
You can try the "i'm moving" trick where you enter the same address you currently live it.

Sometimes it lets you avoid the ETF and get new customer pricing.

I ended up calling in, having them switch me to an internet only deal for 1gbps at 124.99 a month, then the next week I went online and upgraded myself to a triple play with TV + Phone (which aren't even plugged in) and 1gbps internet for $94.99 a month. Cheapest way for me to get gigabit as an existing customer without fucking around with canceling and coming back as a new customer or using wife/girlfriends name for a new account.

>>733375253
They dont care for either. They just want to watch southpark or the new bond film. 480 is plenty

>>733375322
I don't believe any residential internet in the US that gets 1gbps download speeds has a data cap. Even the ISPs that do have data caps (comcast) on their 1gbps or 2gbps plans, they don't have a data cap at all. It wouldn't make sense to cap data on a connection that fast.

>>733375385
No they want better, they just don't know it because they've never had access to internet fast enough to deliver it.

>>733375401
It's almost the opposite here, for mobile at lease.
"A WHOPPING HUEG 1.5GB OF DATA ON YOUR 4G PHONE!!!1!1!"
And if you leave your phone downloading something for five seconds you can burn your entire plan.

>>733375545
For the US most wireless data plans are now unlimited, but it's around 20-25GB of 4G data, and then it switches to 3G speeds that are unlimited.

>>733375421
Nah. You want better... and you want the average population to subsidise it for you.

>>733375621
Fuck me that's nice

>>733375545
WHOO HOOOOOL UNLIMITED CALLS!!!!! NOW I CAN CALL ALL THE FRIENDS I DON'T HAVE

>>733375707
Yeah, fuck future innovation, fuck online learning, fuck online collaboration, fuck telepresence, fuck any chance of AR or VR development, etc, etc, etc.

If you're fine with limiting your technological innovation to a severe degree, go right ahead.

>>733375823
>much crying

You know if you stamp your feet and throw more tantrums you might just get FTTH to your dads house.

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>>733376022
Just so you know, the original dude who you were arguing with earlier left. I'm the OP, i've got faster internet than pretty much anyone in your country outside a network operator or maybe a university internal network.

>>733376094
Awesome! Im so happy for you.

Download much porn?

>>733376172
Why would I? I can stream 10+ HD porn streams without buffering.

>>733376210
Man you must jerk off plenty.

Im so jealous coz i can only stream one at a time. Australia is so backwards :(

>>733376316
You can't even stream 1 without buffering unless you're on NBN.

And even if you're on NBN, you better hope it's not prime time hours, or that you're on 30+ year old copper.

Australia is fucked in general. In the near future pretty much all the driving jobs can be automated. Just roaring over the cliff with these hillbilly cunts in charge.

>>733376356
That is utter crap m8. Im on dsl... and literally half way betweed 1970s era exchanges on crackly old copper. Possibly worst case situation.

I can stream 480 plenty fine.

>>733376455
I never said 480 you dumb nigger.
>>733376210
>I can stream 10+ HD porn streams
>>733376316
>i can only stream one at a time
>>733376356
>You can't even stream 1 without buffering unless you're on NBN.
Learn how to follow a 4chan comment chain, jesus

>>733376527
So tou can t jerk off to pron unless its 4k?

Man the era of entitlement is upon us

>>733376662
Well when you have a 1440p IPS display, why the fuck would I want to watch 480p porn?

How poor are you?

>>733376662
>unless its 4k
He said HD, that means 720p or 1080p. Most likely he meant 1080p.

I dont understand why you're so against good internet in your country, the rest of the world is leaving you behind and it should embarrass you.

>>733376743
>please subsidise my internet so i can whack off to 4k porn on my 4 grand gaming rig

Which part of this coincides with average australia you nerd?

>>733376976
Because no one wants it. The logistics of it make it cost a proper fortune... and there are bigger problems to deal with than internet speeds for nerds

>>733377050
I mentioned a half dozen industry related things that would benefit from faster internet, I mentioned several other things home users would benefit from faster internet as well. The fact you PERSONALLY don't find them important is irrelevant. Further what your countries citizens want is also irrelevant when talking about the future of your country. You invest in this now, or you invest in it later. You'll be investing eventually, the only thing FTTN does is delay the investment another decade or two.

>>733373423
>almost 2 TB of anime
it's not cool bragging about your parents internet connection fagit

>>733377203
>almost 2TB of anime
how are you this retarded...?

2x4TB HDDs and they're almost full is not "almost 2TB"

>>733377144
Its got nothing to do with what i want. Its the facts. Leas than 50% tske up in NBN ready suburbs. And those that do use less than half the capacity of the line.

Tor the simple here... people dont actually need more than DSL speed.

Except nerds, who apparently think its thier right to have the whole country subsidise thier internet.

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5 €uros, Finland.

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>>733377128
>Because no one wants it.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/fibre-to-the-brain?utm_term=.fd4V0D71q#.xkOWPqmgG
>The majority (56.1%) of broadband internet subscribers were connected with an advertised speed of '24Mbps to 100Mbps'.

>>733377279
went full potato and missed the "free" part.
makes it even worse.

>>733377352
see
>>733377397
of the 13.5M households, 7.5 million of them are using the 24-100mbps package, the highest end residential NBN offers.

>>733377397
yeah that other dude is a fucking moron, anyone who has access to the NBN and actually uses the internet get's the 100mbps package, and they'd probably get faster if the NBN offered it.

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it does the job... wish my upload was faster though

>>733377368
Nice, around here you can't even get 1mbps for that.

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>>733377710
TFW I live in a small city in Canada

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I live in the rural part in Queensland. So shitttttttttt. Still on ASDL2+ and can't get NBN. It's pretty shitty and i get 70ms on games. Kill me :')

>>733378493
fucking die already you patheic loser.

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britbongs have piss poor internet

>>733378493
...and never show up servers where i play. you are so full of shit...

>>733378715
>faster then 71% of GB

the faster the internet is, more civilized country it is. THAT*S A FACT LOSERS!!!!.

I'm from North Queensland, get about 20Mbps. I really don't mind though. I can stream HD and torrents max out at about 2MB/s. Fast enough.

>>733379349
for a single person sure.

Think about a 40 year old with two 15 year old kids and a wife.

You're fucked.

i can download 700 megabyte file in just 77 seconds. what is my internet connection?

>>733379524
about 73 mb/s

>>733379524
70-80mbps

>>733379406
I'm on the slowest NBN plan available. the 25MBps one. You can get up to 100 around here and the actual speeds are very close to that. Just have to pay about $120 minimum per month for it. So yeah... it's possible to get ok speeds, just expensive as fuck.

>>733379616
the actual slowest is 12.5 - the base connection. they don't advertise it but it's what about 1/3rd are connected to

Are you guys cooked? I regularly get 60mbs download and upload, Vic Aus

>>733379590
>>733379577
no

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>>733366997
I have no way to connect to wifi right now so here's my phone network

>>733366997
What the fuck would you need to download at that speed? You autistic fuck. All you need is about 5mbps not fucking 940. What the hell are you doing?

>>733379673
Didn't know that... That sucks. I'm just waiting for my contract with telstra to run out then I'm going to get on the 100MBps plan with a cheaper telco.

>>733367495
im in hobart and get 100mbps

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>>733379812
lel, i'm OP here is my comparison of all 3.

LTE, Wifi, and ethernet

>>733379839
Mb*

>>733379789
yes actually you retard

700 mb / 77 sec = 9.0909...
* 8 = 72.7272

>>733379822
I had 150mbps (with TV and phone) for $155 and upgraded to 1gbps(with TV and phone) for $94.

Fuck off. I dont like having to wait for downloads and now i barely have to wait more than 5-10 minutes no matter the size.

>>733379937
oh i mean i can download 770 mb

>>733380034
which is 80mb/s

>>733379916
That's an impressive jump from wifi to Ethernet.
I wish one day wifi could be just as good as an utp cable.

>>733380099
no.

>>733379985
You're an idiot.

>>733380128
*your

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Not even using direct connection

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>>733380103
Here is someone else with the same ISP using a UniFi AC HD and a Macbook pro over wifi.

how can i make my connection faster without paying for it?

>>733380341
By paying for it poorfag fucking Kek

>>733380128
My im an idiot for getting faster internet for less money?

o-o-okay

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>>733380251
Through a vpn

>>733380535
>My im an idiot
*Am I an idiot

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In reality anything past around 100Mb/s is overkill and not really worth it (depending on where you live and the prices there).

No matter how fast YOUR speeds are you will always be bottlenecks by the server you're downloading from. Most servers aren't going to push 100Mb, they will barely come to 60MBs. Only servers I know that push out 100Mbs+ are Steams.

>>733380522
why pay if you can use neighborswlan?

>>733380736
torrents

>>733380736
torrents. but doesn't that depend also how fast you hard drives are?

>>733380794
No, pretty much any modern 7200rpm HDD should be able to write at 125MB/s or faster.

My 5TB 7200RPM drive writes at 190MB/s.

1gbps is 125MB/s, bits vs bytes.

>>733380791
>>733380794
No and yes.

Torrents depend on seeders. Rarely have I seen anything past 85Mbs on the most popular torrents at any given time.

Yes your hard drive can also slow things down, that hasn't been a problem until recently with Fiber networks and Gigabit speeds.

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>>733381075
>Rarely have I seen anything past 85Mbs on the most popular torrents at any given time.
private trackers usually have at least 1-2 seeders seeding on a seedbox with a 1gbps connection. At least form my experiences.

Here is a single torrent getting ~250mbps. I regularly can download 5+ things with 100mbps+ each.

Not to mention, gigabit is more about multiple users on the same connection being able to do whatever they want whenever without even noticing other users.

>>733381246
I'm talking about practical average everyday Joe torrents.

Most people here use torrents to pirate games and movies usually getting their torrents from thepiratebay, kickasstorrents, etc. Unless there's some other more private torrent site that I am unaware of. If so shoot me a link and I'd be happy to be wrong and see my speed get full use of its bandwidth.

>>733381923
>Unless there's some other more private torrent site that I am unaware of
You are, and even if i gave you a link it'd be useless to you without an invitation.

HDB, BTN, PTP, AHD, MTV, etc, etc. These are all TV or Movie private torrent trackers with 15-35,000 users. Many of these users run 40TB+ servers with 1gbps connections, or they have 2-4TB on 1gbps and they rotate out what they seed on their seedbox.

Since i have 1gbps at home I dont bother paying for a seedbox.

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My beanerland internet