how old were you when you matured enough to give up atheism?

Truthfully I was about 22 or 23

>>732946369
thats so fucking sad bro

When I started seeing butt-devastated Atheists false flagging as Christians to make retarded threads about Atheism on /b/.

>>732946498
Grimace doesn't want to lose, so he's leaving now.

Fun to read such a question about maturity when you know how immature the author is...
Question is : when OP will realize that God does not exist

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>>732946717
>when OP will realize that God does not exist

when you can prove it to me atheistfag.

>>732946369
>>732946369
TRANSLATION;
how old were you when you matured enough to embrace atheism. Tell me and cum in my mouth while you are at it.

>>732946369
23. A crazy whore I fucked at my birthday party tried to accuse me of being her babies father. The DNA test said it wasn't me and the fertility test said I fire blanks. Only God could have taken my hatred of kids and prevented me from having any of my own accidentally.

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>>732946369
Odin is going to smite the fuck out of you Christ Fags.

At least Atheists have the decency not to worship false gods.

Atheism is just as ignorant as any religion, whereas religion is the blind belief, atheism is a blind disbelief.

Why can't people just accept that know one can possibly know?

>>732946369
Somewhere around 20. But still fuck your kike Jewsus.

>>732947073
"Heil Odinn! He is BAAASED! Comic books taught me so!"
You cucks probably dont even know what the term "pagan" really means.

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20.

Then I upgraded to Satanism.

Im too euphoric to give it up

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>>732947891

Sorry that "god" gave you a tiny dick

You realize that you don't need to know that something doesn't exist to not believe in it, right?

>>732947945
For >>732947713

Fucking mouse.

>>732947073
So all I need to do to get into Valhalla is die in battle right? Cause tbh it sounds like a pretty dope place to spend the afterlife in, assuming you aint allowed to sin in heaven.

>>732947713
Have you never met an agnostic atheist?
Someone who doesn't believe because of a lack of evidence, yet who admits no one can know for sure.

26...

20, decided it was better to play it safe and that most atheists are edgelords

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Im agnostic, so Im open to the idea of a god or Jezzaz. Unlike autismo-theists I can accept proper evidence when presented it.

Started identifying as atheist around 10. 29 now and still atheist.

When will I finally grow up OP?

>>732948116
>die
>turns out God exists
>turns out God hates theists
>go to hell
gg

>>732946754
Prove what?

>>732948133
What does proper evidence of a supernatural whatchamacallit look like?

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>>732946369
Works every time.

>>732948000
them trips alone gonna get you into valhalla m8

>>732946369
for all time, I've more or less always been agnostic, even grew up going to church and just figured it seemed like a bunch of fairy tales but that I didn't know what happens after you die or if there is a god or not

I have no idea, and I can't prove if there is or isn't so I can't take a strong stance either way, I'll just have to wait and see

>>732948336
Nah, not every time. It depends on the first few posts; sometimes people will just post a few unrelated maymays and the thread dies.

>>732948389
Hint: agnosticism and atheism aren't alternatives to each other.

Do you believe in a god? No? Then you're atheist.

>>732948184
I mean and thats assuming an omnipotent being to which we are literally germs actually cares about individual human life. Like really if there was a being that fit the criteria for a God he a) gives no shits or b) finds our mortal struggles entertaining

and thats not even considering that a truly omnipotent all powerful being would be beyond our comprehension and thus a few old sand niggers couldn't write an accurate book about him any more than cavemen could write a book about quantum physics

>>732948133
Same.
The existance of a 5th dimensional being is near indisputable, but we ourselves would not be able to percieve it.
To explain, a 2nd dimensional being (a circle) would only see its 3rd dimensional counterpart (a sphere) as a shape in the 2nd dimension(a circle). In turn we as 4th dimensional beings (XYZ axis then the one-way figurative axis of time itself) would only be able to percieve a 5th dimensional being (Existing at every point of time at once) as a 4th dimensional being. Time is simply a picture in motion through eternity-we see it one picture at a time, wheras a 5th dimensional being would experience everything at once, as if walking through a gallery of time.
In turn, I deem these 5th dimensional beings as 'God(s)'. I will never interact with them, they will live regardless of me but alas, they are and always will be greater than I, even if only for posterity.

>>732948916
>The existance of a 5th dimensional being is near indisputable
o rly?

Also, you realize that 2 dimensional shapes like circles only 'exist' as abstract concepts right? Any circle you try to represent will actually have more dimensions to it.

>>732948916
Right now a 5th dimensional being is writing on a 4th dimensional screen about how he thinks of 7th dimensional beings as gods.

>>732946754
Asks for proof of no God?, are you fucking retarded, either support your cause or drop it,

>>732948916
Wait I thought 4th dimensional beings could perceive their entire timeline at once while 5th dimensional beings could perceive their entire timeline across every timeline at once

>>732948916
We are 3 dimensional beings. We only actually perceive one point of time at any... time.

>>732946369
It was 17 when I gave up atheism to be agnostic, and it was 21 when I came to be a theist.

But here's the catch- when I became a theist, God told me he was alive...

and that I was his flesh and blood.

>>732946369
How old were you when you realized you are a faggot?

>>732949030
A second dimensional being is literally a line connecting two places. In turn, from the perspective of that line, a sphere/ball will only appear as a line, because that is all it can see-think like a scan of an object, one line at a time.

>>732949174
7th dimension is weird. Put it this way
>1-3 dimnsion=Place
>4-6 dimension=Time
>7-9 dimension=Reality
>10th dimnsion is everything that can exist, will exis or possibly could exist-i.e The Universe and all the surrounding Chaos.

>>732949364
>>732949480
We're 4th dimensional like the post above, we have three axis of place, but only one point in time. 5th dimension is everything between two points in a fixed timeline (The Beginning and End) and 6th dimension is every possible timeline at once.
7-9 is messing with the laws of physics, thus having a point in reality (Real fucking weird)

>>732946894
kek
feelsbadbro.jpg

>>732946754
Where's the proof that the faggot even exist?

>>732949667
oh ye I forgot about that

The sun is God

Why do these threads use the girl from the Neverending story as the first pic?

>>732949667
You aren't very good at this. Here, let me help:
Zero dimensional object: Point
One dimensional object: Line (has length)
Two dimensional object: Plane / shape (circle etc.) (has length and width)
Three dimensional object: Space / object (sphere etc.) (has length, width, and depth)

Beyond that is open to debate. You could consider the 4th dimension to be spatial and get things like a tesseract or you could consider it to be time and get an object that has all its states.

>we have three axis of place, but only one point in time
Exactly, hence, 3 dimensional. Just like a line has only one point in width and a circle has only one point in depth.

>>732949927
No the sun is hypernuclear ball of gas which is constantly burning, outputting enough heat to keep Earth alive. One of Billions.

god is a backwards dog, in the 5th dimension

>>732949981
you would have to ask the original memester who started it all

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>>732946369
About 24... The whole university establishment is pro-marxism and anti-christian, so it's hard to not get swept away with it all. I was a full blown fedora tipping neck-beard for a while. It's hard to explain any religion from a literal position, so this is precisely where the marxists attack from.
But you grow up and start to see how things are decaying in society... And then you become spiritual within your own individuality.
The final push was when the stories of the bible were explained to me from a meta-physical perspective. That was the final big push to get me back to church. Never been happier to be honest.
>don't tell me there's no proof of God's existence because I don't give a shit

>>732950103
oh yeah well if the sun isnt god then how come its the biggest star in the sky checkmate athiests

>>732950169
things have always been decaying in society, look at the roman empire, they literally invented the fucking bible and it didn't help them for shit

>>732950214
Hello I'm an atheist, it looks bigger because we are closer to it.
I do agree with you that it is the cause of all life on our planet though. Without it providing our planet with energy, this place would just be a dead rock.

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>>732946369
There is no god, no spooks, no ghosts, no spirits, no miracles, no destiny, no aliens, the "meaning of life" is procreation, everything on earth must kill everything on earth just to survive, there IS such a thing as a stupid question, and size does matter, time travel is not possible, there is no future, only the present and the past.

Religion only exists inside of your head, God is in your head, not in the real world. Jesus' birthday is not on Christmas, if he was fucking real then his birthday would be in the spring. Sins are petty fictional laws that have done nothing but put stress onto others because their mind is held hostage. Religion causes brain damage, it messes up the way you think.

When you die, you no longer exist, your brain is shut down. Everything in life happens naturally, there is no God or Jesus that has a fucking plan for you. Jesus isn't real, if he was then he made everything up about God and started a cult.

>>732950337
it was a pretty good stroke of genius to pretend to go christian in order to patch things together for a little while longer though, although that was really just a s stop gap measure

if people would just stop believing in sky wizards though we could stop fighting over said sky wizards and change to more important things like fighting over resources and human rights

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>>732950169
Don't tell me god exists because it don't give a shit

>>732950407
How can you claim that no aliens exist.
Even if life forming is rare, there are still plenty of chances for it to form in our universe.

>>732950407
>step 1: go to black hole
>step 2: chill by black hole
>step 3: leave black hole
>step 4: have time traveled into the future

>>732950464
>your post
Lol

>>732950464
>pretend
You don't understand, we are already fighting over those things. Religion and war aren't mutually exclusive but media outlets and shit religions like Islam make me lawl. I have felt God's presence in life, I have seen his hands work. I know his spirit is real. Not a "sky wizard" more like a voxel, you're concept of God is that he is in fact human or conceptually human, however, God isn't made of flesh and blood it is an amalgamation of all things since the dawn of time. There's so much you don't know

>>732950504
>actually attacking my religious stance from a literal position after reading my post
You're a special kind of retarded.

>>732950407
>>732950526

hell theres a reasonable chance at some microbial aliens in our own system with all this water we got around, and that chance increases exponentially if you are just looking for dead shit that was once alive

even if the chance of life is smaller than OP's dick if you multiply that by the amount of planets in the galaxy times the galaxies in the universe times the amount of time the universe has/will be around life is all but guaranteed

besides, how can you say aliens arent real when I saw my landscaper pablo just last monday

>>732950779
>being so conceited to think that an all powerful all knowing sky wizard would care about you in particular

>>732950407
>no aliens
Aliens def exist, considering there are over 200 billion stars in our galaxy and over 200 billion galaxies in the observable universe. With those odds we surely are not alone. Now will we ever contact each other? No the universe is to vast

around 25, when i saw the decay of the moral corruption of my nation. It isn't really relevant if god exists or not, the majority of people are too fucking stupid to do shit on their own which means they need an outside force to motivate them, otherwise they just waste away playing video games all day not contributing anything to society. The ultimate end if this continues is muslooms taking over, and we can't have that.

>>732950779
>There's so much you don't know
halp my sides are in heaven

19.

I was at a bad time in my life. Just started university, depressed, stressed etc.

But then one night Lucifer appeared and offered to strengthen me.

Haven't looked back since.

I don't know whether gods or demons exist. But the belief in Lucifer has made me a better person. In that sense, it exists for me. And that's enough to me.

>>732950779
>I have felt God's presence in life, I have seen his hands work.
Have you though?
>I know his spirit is real.
Do you though?
>God isn't made of flesh and blood it is an amalgamation of all things since the dawn of time
What does that mean, exactly?

>>732950791
No falling back on fairy tale stories to teach your self morals to get a hypothetical gods good boy points is what's retarded.

>>732950779
The lefts narrative for the last 50 years has been this:
>Religion was the sole cause of all wars up until nationalism came about and then nationalism was the sole cause of all wars
It's party of their party revisions. This is why you'll hear two things from Marxists everywhere:
>le huehue why be proud of le country u never achieved a country le huehue
>haha le sky wizard believer what an imbecile unlike me I am just way too intelligent for you
They're kids anon. They've read a few (((wiki))) articles on history and then proceeded to proclaim themselves smarter then everybody. Their opinions are rarely challenged due to how much they resort to attacking their opponents.

>>732947713
Stop being a fence sitting faggot. Look around, there's no god, if there is hes incompetent, and maybe just maybe doesn't give a fuck.

>>732951114
>hypothetical gods good boy points

now all I can think of is retards in heaven screaming at god to give them chicken tendies for their gbp

>>732950101
Para 1=Correct
Para 2=You are right that 4-6 and 7-9 are interchangable as either the Reality or the Time axis, but its gernerally easier to say 4-6 is time-because then each reality is independant of another, rather than every reality existing at the same time, linking to how realities come to form.
Think of a boiling kettle. Its easier to imagine each bubble forming, rising and popping independent of another, rather than every bubble forming at once, rising at once and popping at once.
Either way we are still 4th dimensional, as we have one point in time at once, or have one point in a single reality (No bending the laws of physics in this reality)

Para 3=No. Imagine five points in the universe. Though you have just made a pyramid (or a pentagon if they are on the same plane), it is only third dimensional as it is independant of time itself. You can destroy where the points are or think of five new points-either way it is not affected by time, as those five points in the universe are fixed. Those five points are there, and they stay there. Forever.
Now find a pyramid-or check out >>>/po/ and make one. Despite being the same shape (unless its a pentagon, then kys for being awkward) its' points are not fixed. It is affected by time, as you could throw the fucker across the room and its corners would represent different points in the universe.
>Tl;Dr A point in time allows movement theough space. A different picture each second. We can move ourselves in space, ergo we exist in the fourth dimension.

Also zero dimensions isn't a thing. Kinda. A point doesn't have any dimensions by definition. Its literally a point. So both yes and no.

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>>732947713
Have some faith

>>732950779
>There is so much you don't know
Yet I still know more than you, apparently

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>>732951114
>not realising that stories contain deeper messages
Again: You're retarded. It's like you think the "boy who cried wolf" is just LITERALLY about a boy who just lies to everyone about wolves.
But please continue to attack my religious beliefs from a literal position, despite saying in the first post that I don't take things from the Bible literally lol
You're so dumb. So very very dumb....

>>732951252
Ughhh my brain

>>732951483
>>732950951
>>732950892
>t. smug
Be honest now, do you guys like to sniff your own farts?

>>732951484
>not realizing that most of the bibles stories don't apply/are morally wrong in today's society and only a select few remain relevant

>furthermore needing to be taught these things instead of knowing how not to be an asshole inherently

>>732946369
15

>>732951252
>it is only third dimensional as it is independant of time itself
>Despite being the same shape (unless its a pentagon, then kys for being awkward) its' points are not fixed
They are though, for that point in time. No matter what happens at another point in time, that point in time is fixed.

We move through time, but we only exist at one point in time.

To give a lower dimensional example, let's take the circle and use spatial dimensions. The circle exists at one point in depth. You could move the circle through depth, but it would remain a two dimensional object. You could stretch or shrink the circle, but it would remain a two dimensional object. The same works if you move the circle through time, it just sounds weird.
>Also zero dimensions isn't a thing.
Neither are one dimension or two dimensions in reality.
>A point doesn't have any dimensions by definition.
Hence zero. Having zero dimensions means you don't have any dimensions.

>>732951484
>fairy tale stories to teach morals

Yup I'm totally arguing from a literal stand point. What my point is religion is just a form of social control used to control the uneducated or the weak willed

Deism or gtfo

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>>732951667
>I've never read the bible
I can tell
>furthermore needing to be taught these things instead of knowing how not to be an asshole inherently
Given how much of an asshole you're being over my beliefs, it's clear as day that you are inherently an asshole.
Maybe you should pick up a bible and learn a few things anon. Like.... learning how not to be an asshole lol

>>732951947
>learning how not to be an asshole
>from a book about a god that is the biggest asshole of all time

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>>732951947

>>732951947
>learn how to not be an asshole
The Spanish Inquisition

>>732952029
>god is an asshole
Someone needs to read the book of Job lol

>>732951911
Considered deism when I dropped theistic dogma. Realized I had no reason to believe that either.

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Why are people so retarded, they respond to this never ending shit thread?

Everyone in here is a massively retarded faggot for responding, including myself now, but I couldn't just sit by anymore.

And OP is the faggot son of faggot;overlord aka his dad, who fucks him in the ass every night before bed.

True story.

>>732951896
>le religion is mind control maymay
Humans have always needed a mind crushing ideology anon. Look at what Marxism has done around the globe. Humans and our collective nature are ultimately responsible for all of this.
The bible is far from good mind control anon. If you can, get somebody in real life or find sombody online to teach you about the metaphysics of the stories and how they relate to being human. You'll never look back.

>>732952029
>I listened to Dawkins cherry pick a few phrases and teach me how God is bad
Good for you bro

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>>732946369

>>732951947
>>732952029
dood what are you talking about, god isnt an asshole

women not allowed to teach or order men around just because they are women? not sexist at all
stoning non-virgins? clearly you are killing them out of love
if you are missing your peen you can go to church and are sent to hell? well thats perfectly reasonable
if you have deformities you arent allowed into heaven? get better genes m8
having a baby girl makes you unclean for 2 months? well yeah she is a girl after all and girls are inferior

>>732952110
You don't need to be super intelligent to work out that humans are capable of evil things dude lol

>>732952624
try picking up a bible and actually reading it, its pretty much the story of god being a dick to mankind for the luls

>>732952624
>read in the Bible about how God commanded and committed genocide and condoned slavery
>read about how you suffer eternal punishment for finite thought-crimes
Yep, sure is cherry picked.

Keep ignoring the bad bits there bro.

>>732952742
>srawmanning this hard
I don't care if Christianity has a history of oppressing women. Considering every other culture has had a history of doing the exact same thing lol
What a shitty point to argue, man you're dumb.

>>732952904
>old testament God
Back to the drawing board for you kiddo

>>732948145
The only time I see this happen to rational people is when they're about to die and they need a crutch to get them through it

This is why old people go to church

>>732953096
Isn't the Old Testament God and the New Testament God supposed to be the same, eternal being? You don't get to just ignore the Old Testament.

Also, New Testament god is still an asshole.

>>732951893
This is gonna sound shite, but it just is

No. And Yes
Think of the univrse as a 3D map and give some coords. Thats a point-'0D' as you say
Another point. Thats a line-1D
Another=A triangle=2D
Another=Triangular pyramid=3D
No matter what happens, these points are fixed. NOTHING affects them.
Time passes? Same place.
Reality shifts? Same place.
New points added? Previous ones are in the same place.
When you add the factor of time to influence these points, they have ascended to the fourth dimension.
Now influenced by time, these points can move, change place over time. Now track the all the movement over time. Should you layer them, it looks like a huge snake (Like that Windows 98 window glitch, layering itself multitudes of times)
Fourth dimension is percieving one point along the snake at a time-a picture. However that one point travels along time, a 10000000000000x10'100 FPS video with no pause button.
Fifth dimension could pick and choose which part of a snake they are on. They can rewind the video and speed up the video to whatever point they want.
Sixth dimension is every point on the snake at once. They experience the video in full, every frame, all at once.

You stretch or shrink a 2D object, fine you have a new shape, but the points of the old one exist. You just made a new shape is all. Move through time, no change to the originals. No, if you move through time and can change where you are, then you are fourth dimensional. (Us! :) )

And yes, everything you greentexted is true. Its all about technicalities. Its shit, but thats just how it is, I appreciate it.

>>732953227
I wish IDs were still on /b/
My first point was that I don't actually care for literal interpretations of the bible. Whether they're in favor of Gods existence or not. As a human being I actually don't care whether God literally exists or not. Empirical evidence any day of the week is going to tell you that there's no evidence for this. I majored in maths at university, I'm not discounting science at all.
But from a deeper level, one that not everyone seems to grasp is there's an underlying, very deep, level to being a human. It's so damn misunderstood.... maybe as humans we'll never understand it either... But the stories from the Bible are deep and they probe into humanity. Honestly, learn what the book means from metaphysical position.

>>732953592
It seems you and I are just not going to agree here. I maintain that being at one point in a dimension means that you do not possess that dimension. A fourth dimensional being would exist through the fourth dimension.

>>732953922
Shall we just agree to disagree? One if the better debates I have had on this cretinous website, Good day.

>>732953849
Why should I bother with stories that teach poor morals and primitive philosophy when I can already explore such things much better without them?

The stories of the Bible are useful for delving into the thoughts of ancient man. If you are interested in comparing where we were then to where we are now, then go for it.