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/b/ is smart, right.......?

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/b/ is smart, right.......?
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58
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>>732854664
39
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10..........
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6^2/2(3)+4
=6*6/2*3+4
=36/2*3+4
=18*3+4
=54+4
=58
>fight me
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>>732854664
BODMAS

'brackets','orders','division','multiplication','addition','subtraction'.

this isnt smart, its the most baisic of mathematical algorithm.

6^2 / 2(3) + 4
6^2 / 6 + 4
36 / 6 + 4
6 +4
ans = 10
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>>732854820
surprised to see someone who can actually do math in here, cheers!
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10
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((6^2)/(6))+4=10
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>>732854824
>>732854888
>>732854917
>>732854943


MFW you're all wrong because / doesn't exactly work the same as ÷ (obelus)
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>>732855075
spotted the autist, do you call the del operator the nabla operator too?
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>>732854664
The correct way to write out the equation would be pic related. The division sign, without parantheses, only ever applies to whatever comes directly after, yet, for purpose of precision, you simply don't use it with multiple terms on the right of it, it's bad practice.
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>>732855135

ww.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%C2%B2%2F2(3)%2B4

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%C2%B2%C3%B72(3)%2B4

neck yourself fag
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>>732855191

stand corrected, what the fuck haha
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The way I was taught in elementary was PEMDAS.

Parenthesis
Exponents
/Multiplication
\Division
/Addition
\Subtraction

Using this method I got 10
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>>732855411
It's PEDMAS though.
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>>732855411

Check the wolfram alpha links, the (3) and the ÷ make this a bit tricky
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>>732855461

No, a division doesn't have the priority over a multiplication, PEMDAS or PEDMAS are both somewhat wrong as it can lead you to think division comes first, as well as addition over substraction
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>>732854664
8
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>>732855461
PEMDAS and PEDMAS is literally the same. Division and multiplication have the exact same priority.

Example:
6
-- x 4 =
3

2 x 4 = 8

or

6
-- x 4 =
3

24
--- = 8
3

PEMDAS is merely a shorthand for small children to get it kind of right. However the amount of adults who still don't know the priorities is worrying.
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You are all such a bunch of raging faggots it really is funny. The answer is six million Jews
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>>732854664
62 / 6 + 4
=10.33 + 4
=14.33

don't know why you type the little 2
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10
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The ( ) aren't priority over anything here, it's not like there's an operation within them, it's simply a replacement for multiplication meaning that it doesn't occur first or before the exponent.
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>>732856514
Therefore 58
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>>732855555

Pentas has spoken
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>>732854664
6^2/2(3)+4
36/2(3)+4
36/6+4
6+4
10
pemdas guys come on this is like 6th grade shit
Parentheses Exponents Multiplication Division Addition Subtraction
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>>732856673


2(3) is just like 2x3 and not (2x3)

PEMDAS or not the answer is 58 because of the obelus and the fact that the parenthesis aren't used for the multiplication
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>>732854707
correct
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>>732854664
There is no correct answer because of the ambiguous manner by which the expression is written.
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>>732854664
6^2/2(3)+4
36/2 (3)+4
18 (3)+4
54+4
58
>There
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>>732854664
Nigger
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>>732855555
Those digits
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https://youtu.be/HYL5GHXKT6Q

For those that don't get why the answer is 10
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>>732854664
Alright i had that teacher who always say , you dumb heads ALWAYS REMOVE THE FUCKING ( ) FIRST
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>>732854664
Its ten dumbasses
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>>732854888
Pemdas
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As a math teacher, the order for PEMDAS has multiplication and division at the same level of priority. Because of this, you do the operations from left to right once you get to that level. Using this, you get 58.
6^2 / 2(3)+4
36/2(3)+4
18(3)+4
54+4
58
Btw, the parentheses around the 3 mean multiplication, it doesn't give the multiplication of 2 and 3 priority, as some of you are doing. It's only operations within the parentheses that get priority, and since there are none, you leave it be.
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>>732855555
>fiver quints
woah, absolute truth
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>>732857149
Can you, as a teacher, tell me what the fuck is going on with people not knowing how to solve the most basic problems?
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>>732854664
6 x small 2 = small 12, devided by 2 = small 6, ?????? + 4 = small 64 + in the closet 3
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>>732857276
They forget the left to right rule
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>>732854664
Clarify first.
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>>732857276

Retarded US education system teaching PEMDAS to people who then think it's true to do multiplications before divisions

There's no such thing here in Europe (even though there's a lot of people that don't apply the correct order.)
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>>732857276
It's most likely the way the problem is written and the spelling of PEMDAS. I know that when I grew up, I assumed that multiplication came first because the M came before the D. However, in like 4th grade, I learned how it actually was. I guess some people just tuned out that day. Or they just forgot.
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If you were actually doing a calculation of importance, you wouldn't use that symbol for division, you'd use an inverse factor.
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3.6 is the right answer
> i'm a professor at the computer science department of an university
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>>732857373
People for get it is more PE.MD.AS each is broken into a pair those two are done at the same time from left to right. P is only operations inside of the parentheses and when operating in a specific pair the left most symbol is done first. So basically there are a bunch of rules and most people only remember the acronym and screw up applying it.
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>>732854664
What if 6^2 ÷ 2(3)+4 =x
Find x ?
Can somebody actually solve this one for me ?
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>>732857554
I'm a math tutor and I refer to it as PEMA. Division is inverse multiplication and subtraction is inverse addition.
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>>732857615
The value of the expression is equal to x. It has already been solved.
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>>732856221
kek
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>>732854664
>comic sans
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>>732854707
Das right mang
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>>732857678
A one line problem doesn't change in value ?
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>>732857872
-58 ?
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>>732855555
OH GOD OH GOD OHHHH GOOODDD
QUINT QUINTS PLEASE DADDY GOD QUINT ALL OVER ME OH GOD YESSSSS
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>>732854664
10
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>>732857872
58 + 18x
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>>732854664
>/b/ is smart, right.......?

Yes, we am.
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you stupid cunts you never use this shit -:- in math
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>>732858149
This should be the moral lesson of this thread. That and how to fucking use PEMDAS.
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>>732854664
58?
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10.
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>>732859024
This
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>>732854664
Depends on interpretation.
Wolfram alpha would interpret the sign differently and give the answer 10. If it is interpreted as a "/" it would be 58. In Denmark it would be interpreted as a "-" sign and it would be 32.
TL;DR: The question is ambiguous.
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10
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It's 10 you iliterate fucking cockgoblinzs.
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10
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The answer is:

trump 2016
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>>732857149
This.
Clearly no university students on /b/.
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>>732855152
That is not the correct way.
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>>732854664
bedmas bedmas bedmas
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BIMDAS

Brackets: (3) = 3
Indices: 6^2 = 36
Multiplication: 2*3 = 6
(when two numbers are next to each other it's automatically multiplication)
Division: 36/6 = 6
Addition: 6+4 = 10
Subtraction: None

ANSWER = 10
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>>732859275
But that means nothing since the rest of the world interprets Denmark as a retarded country
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>>732854664
4 and ½ potato
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>>732854839
Who gets off to this?
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42
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>>732859773
Bimdas??? The fuck is that caveman shit?? Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally or PEMDAS you fucking Neanderthal
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>>732854707
This.
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10

retards
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the issue here is that people don't realize that 2(3) is one term. so they take the 36 and divide it by two before multiplying the 2(3), which is incorrect. it would be safe to do that if the equation spoke 2x3, making it two separate terms. the answer is 10 you uneducated faggots.

sources: im a mechanical engineer and was able to make it past college algebra unlike most of you low life fat fucks.
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>>732854664
62 / 2 = 31
31 * 3 = 93
93 + 4 = 97
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>>732854664
University Professorfag here (Not maths, Astronomy), I believe the answer is 58.
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>>732860145

you're the reason our education system is failing.
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>>732859773
Multiplication does NOT come before division. They are treated the EXACT SAME way, and therefore we tackle division and multiplication together from left to right. I honestly don't know why you're learning BIMDAS or PEMDAS, it's misguiding.
The answer is 58.
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>>732860145
Fuck off M8, you're not a real prof.
The answer is 8
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idk i can post.
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>>732854664
>>732856794
op is a retard
ambious and into the trash it goes
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>>732854664
This is the correct answer to your problem
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>>732855152
Are you fucking stupid? Do you know how brackets work?
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>>732860182
>They are treated the EXACT SAME way
>therefore we tackle division and multiplication together from left to right
haha no
there is no left to right or right to left
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>oh look, i wrote the most basic of math in a retarded way im so clever

please kill yourself and all the retards that think solving this right proves they know math while their math stops at the level where letters go in the equation instead of numbers
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>>732860259
It means you solve that part last
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>americans need snappy catch phrases to remember elementary math correctly
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>>732854664
10
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17
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>>732860105
This guy gets it
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10

This place is cancer
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>>732854664
niggers
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>>732854664
10
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this is easy
6 | 2+3+4

=6 | 9

the answer is 69 you fucking idiots
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(6x6)
(36)/(2*3)
(36)/(6 +4)
(36)/10
3.6

suck it
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>>732860105
>sources: im a mechanical engineer
well it is common knowledge engineers are shit at maths and only know how to follow rote-memorized recipes step by step
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>>732857359
Refer to >>732855152. This is the way to write it.
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>>732854824
Ever hear of PEMDAS?
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(36÷6)+4=10
get memed on niggers
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>>732854664
bidmas
2*3=6
6*6=36
36/6=6
6+4 = 10
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If you got anything else than 58 you are either retarded or american.
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>>732860182
This. Anyone who doesn't know this is super fucking retarded.
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BIDMAS.
Brackets: 2*(3) = 6.
Indices: 6^2 = 36.
36/6 = 6.
6+4 = 10.
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>>732860427
the A in pemdas stands for AIDS BITCH!
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>>732860444
da fuck did you get 58
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>>732860444
trips and low quality bait.
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>>732854664
10
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>>732860427
>PEMDAS
high school white lie teachers use to teach people who will never do maths ever again just enough to pass their exams
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EVERYONE QUIT ARGUING AND LOOK AT THIS >>732855191.
This is the ONLY correct answer. The rest who say it isn't, fuck off.
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>>732860548
bidmas is bay
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>>732860571
idk what that is but it sounds like the same kind of oversimplified white lie
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6^2 / 2(3) +4
36 / 6 +4
6 +4
=10
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>>732860105
Its one term the way 62÷2 is one term. Left to right dude x(y) is the same as x×y so z÷x×y is the same as (z÷x)y.
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>>732860444
I got 58 and I'm American, where is your god now?
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>>732860473
>Brackets: 2*(3)

That's simple multiplication, not brackets.

The way it is written in OPs pic is
36/2 * 3 + 4.

not

36/(2*3) + 4
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>>732860561
ok thats complete bullshit
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next trips decides on what the answer is, im rolling for 69, check my explanation here>>732860369
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>>732854664
bedmas/pemdas (same shit)
calculation in brackets (none)
6^2/2(3)+4
exponents
36/2(3)+4
division and/or multiplication in the order they appear from left to right
18(3)+4
54+4
addition and/or subtraction in the order they appear from left to right
58

>>732860427
but.. they did use pemdas
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>>732860486

Dude...
First the brackets:
Its 3. Just 3.
Now multiplication/divisionfrom left to right:
62 is 36
36 / 2 is 18
18 times 3 is 54
now the addidtion / subtraction
54 + 4 is 58.

If there are several operations with the same value (like multiplication and division) you go from left to right.
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>>732860633
nah bnecause when there is a number like 2
next to brakets like (3) it is a multiplication
like so 2*(3)
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>>732860259
Yes you do what's in the brackets first. In this case that's x(3) or x(3×1) leaving you x×3 and in this case x= 62÷2 since you work left to right.
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>>732860643
How?
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>>732860285
Holy shit nigger no.
There is left to right there always has been. Go back to fuckng school.
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Ip is fah
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>>732860791
written maths is just notation to try to convey what you thought up in your head

if some retarded monkey wrote a bunch of meaningless stuff, trying to enforce meaning on it by inventing various rules on the fly like "left to righ" or "multiplication before division" is pointless, you have no idea if your interpretation is what the retarded monkey intended.
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First of all , the brackets are completely pointless.
6^2 = 6*6 = 36 and 2*3 = 6 (duuuuuuuuuhhhh)
thus (36/6) + 4 = 6 + 4 = 10.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>732860285
4÷2x6÷3×5 is 20 but if you do it backwards it's 1.25 so yes there's a left to right order.
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>>732860720
beacuse-Brackets
>>732860712
and go ont a calculator and type 2(3)
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>>732860848
because it is ambigous and you should use brackets do disambiguate it to better convey what you intended to convey.
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>>732860832
this guy gets it
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>>732854664
10. everything else is wrong
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>>732860857
Go on a calculator and type 4÷2(3) and notice it divides first retard.
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>>732854664
62/2(3)+4
=36/6+4
=10
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58 because 3 being in brackets does nothing but separate it from the 2 so you know it's multiplication.
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>>732860891
and this guy gets it
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>>732856074
Honestly I kek'ed SO MUCH, thanks, sides are in orbit

>answer is 10 you dimwit amerifats, being this: 6*6 / 2*3 +4 = 36/6 +4 = 6+4 =10
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once you accept there are such things as meaningless or ambiguous expressions, this problem goes away.

Maths itself might be crystal clear and logical, but you have to use notation to convey it, and the notation can be flawed if you are sloppy with it.
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GOOGLE IT. IT IS 58.
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>>732860869
Thats not ambiguous because you work left to right when multiplying and dividing.
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The answer is 10.

fuck you.
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58. Think of the three being in brackets as a portion of the problem that has already been solved like (1+2)
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>>732860983
maybe you do, and if you write an expression where doing that makes it unambiguous, then you should define that you work left to right, so that others too can reach the same unambiguous result by applying your conventions.
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>>732854664
what does 2(3) mean?
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>>732854664
PEMDAS you fucking idiots
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The 2 isn't in parenthesis you fucking ingrates
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>>732860940
There's no way that you guys are this delusional. You're trolling.
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>>732854664
36 / 6 = 6
6 + 4 = 10
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>>732861025
>>732860983
if you read most any (decent) instruction manual for programming languages, calculators, and other tools for entering math - they explicitly define that expressions are parsed left to right when appropriate.

The key thing is that they define it, it is not some god given convention that everybody has to follow.
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>>732854664
58, fags
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>>732861037
2*3
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its a trick question, there are two answers that are equally right and equally wrong, because multiplication and division are equal, as are addition and subtraction.
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10. While its fully right to assume PEMDAS's comparative priorities, the problem distinctly separates 6^2 and 2(3) away from eachother with its divisor sign. Had the 2(3) been separate, 58 would indeed be correct.
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>>732861075
tl;dr: OP did not define shit (among other things) and the equation is meaningless
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>>732861025
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=multiplication+and+division+left+to+right
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>>732861075
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=multiplication+and+division+left+to+right
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>>732861144
the page does not load for me
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>>732861060
no we are just smart XD
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Engineer here, the answer is 58.
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>>732861167
You should assume left to right in the west, but not in China or Israel. That's where we get into trouble.
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>>732854664

3.6
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>>732860105
I'm a comp sci and EE, and "2(3)" is not one term. What makes you think it's one term?
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>>732861167
>>732861185
though I get the impression you autistically want to cling to your preconceived notions that notation is perfect and there is always a "correct" interpretation with no room for ambiguity
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>>732861185
http://wolfr.am/lJc3C3s2
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>>732861253
http://wolfr.am/lJc3C3s2
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>>732854664
42
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>>732861253
In math?
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>>732861294
the meaning to life this is the question holy shit
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>>732854664
10
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>>732861289
>>732861254
pretty sure that if you look up their documentation, they will explicitly define how they parse stuff.

In fact you can already see that they parsed it and chose to display their interpretation of your query, where their interpretaion is ambigous (though not the only interpretaion of the query that is possible).

It is up to the user to enter the query in an umanbiguous way, or correct it if it gets parsed in an unintended way so it can get parsed correctly
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this is were i roll the dice and yell yahtzee right?
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>>732861340
mathematical notation can be ambigous, sure.
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10
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>>732860075
>>732860182
it appears we have all been taught different things for me i learnt BIMDAS and you do it in that order none of this left to right stuff. its just what we where taught. if its outdated now i haven't been in a math class for 3 years so i was just saying what i learnt
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rolled the dice and got 58....thats weird.
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>>732855479
wolfram alpha doesn't know teh order of operations.
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Well, since the most given answer is 10, i suppose we really should dump the concept of swarm intelligence.
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For all the autisms out there
The real form of the equation is :
(6^2)/(2(3))+4.
Meaning the answer is 10.

Consider the following.
9/9 = 0
9/3(3)
9/3(3) does not equal to
3*3 = 9.

Factors are a form of brackets. Do those first.
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Isn't it 10?
Because you do 2(3) which is 2*3 before the division.
Else the other anons are correct and it's 58
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Guys , from left to right :
6^2 / 2*3 + 4 = 36/2*3 + 4 = 18*3+4= 58
Don't trust me ? Use google calculator ffs
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>>732854707
This
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>>732861557
>9/3(3) does not equal to
>3*3 = 9.
yes it does, it fucking does equal.
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>>732854664
3.6 you fucking mongoloids
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>>732861557
Lol wut ? 9/9 != 9/3*3
9/9 = 9/(3*3). 9/9 =1 = 9/(3*3) , 9/3*3=9
THE 3s CANCEL OUT. BASIC MATH.
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10
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>>732861630
You do the 3*3 first so you get 9/9 which is 1.
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>>732861407
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations
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>>732861662
If you want to do the 3*3 first , you will need a parenthesis. (3*3) mate >>732861645
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>>732861577
only the _inside_ of brackets take priority.
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>>732855191
Results are same. We already knew they would be. Good job getting baited by autists.
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>>732861577
2(3) isn't a term in this equation because the antecedent operator is of the same precedence. Had the antecedent operator been on lower precedence (addition or subtraction) then 2(3) would be considered a term. Operationsof the same precedence are performed in linear order unless there are cancellation opportunities.
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>>732861674
that literally says that it is ambiguous though and that you should use parentheses
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10
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>>732855716
>PEMDAS is merely a shorthand for small children to get it kind of right.
This. In here we didn't have any of this "muh pemdas" bullshit. Instead we were taught how each operator works and it was up for us to figure out how they work together. But I guess it would be too tough for 'merifats.
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>>732860259
I do. There is no operation taking place inside the brackets, they are irrelevant in this particular case.
(3)*2=3*2=((((3))))*2=((((((((((3))))))))))*2=6.

Their only purpose is to confuse idiots like you and it's still surprising that it works.
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>>732859726
It genuinely is.
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>>732861827
kind of why parents/adults sperg about common core too
>muh that was not how I was taught it
even though it makes much more intuitive sense than memorizing tons of recipes and steps
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>>732854664
The answer can be 10 or 58
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>>732861952
>The answer can be 10 or 58
GTFO Schrodinger, there is no such thing as quantum maths
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>>732857872
6^2 / 2(3+x) + 4
36 / 6 + 2x + 4
6 + 2x + 4
2x + 10
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>>732861952
good luck convincing anyone on /b/ that

>>732861974
there is such a thing as ambiguous notation
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https://youtu.be/tvjJppmx9Hk
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>>732855152
That would be correct if 3 was a regular multiplication and not in brackets. You have to clear the brackets first, then devisions/multiplications from left to right.
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>>732861987
I've always been told to work left to right.
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Any 4chan discord server link ?
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>>732854664
>b is smart right

Newfag detected
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>>732861974
He is correct, answer is different depending on how you write the devision down
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>>732862144
The brackets just say (3) which is (3×1) and then it drops the brackets and becomes 3. x(y) means do what's in the brackets then it becomes x×y. The 2 on the outside is multiplied after making it 62÷2×3+4. Then it's 36÷2×3+4 and most people are taught go left to right.
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>>732854707
/thread
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>>732857872
20
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>>732854888
Nice trips retard
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>>732862144
There is no operation happening WITHIN the bracket and therefore nothing even can be cleared.

5(3)2 is the same as 5*3*2 and you can either do 5*3 first and multiply the result with 2 or do 3*2 first and multiply it by 5. Hell, you can even do 5*2 first, if you feel like it. The bracket is utterly irrelevant, it's just used to imply a multiplication and is a question of NOTATION, not of order of operation.
>>
>>732862155
because children/high school students would not understand how to do stuff otherwise

it is a white lie
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>>732854664
10. also on this note, how can we trust any mathematical formula presented in the modern times when we can't even agree on the simplest of equations? what if einstein got it wrong again?
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>>732854888
Brackets first doesn't not mean you should do the multiplication of two and three directly.

It means you do operations that are inside brackets before the rest.
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>>732861785
Thanks for pointing out that while calculators and programming languages usually go left to right, that the left to right is actually not a rule. My apologies.
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>>732855555
Oh my god
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>>732854664
12 / 6 + 4 = 6
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>>732854664
36 / 12 + 4 = 7
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>>732860105
>2(3) is one term

How?

There is a 2 and a 3. That's two terms
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>>732860832
You realized the brackets were useless, yet you did 2*3 instead of dividing by two and then multiplying by 3.
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>>732854820
this
>>
69
>>
10...

Order of operations is 5th grade shit.
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>>732862324
>because american children/high school students would not understand how to do stuff otherwise
fixed for you
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>>732854664


10. ONLY ONE ANSWER.
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>>732862570
yet you still managed to fuck it up fam
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>>732862571
i liek turtles
>>
I'll inject a dose of reality kid, as an adult the only math you need to know is:

How much you make mth/yr, now minus
Electric bill
Gas bill
Water bill
Rent/mortgage
Car payment/insurance/maintenance/gas
Food/clothing
=broke as fuck.
>>
>>732862439


the fuck?
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>>732861785
Why does every calculator and program work left to right? Why would they pick that.
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>>732855411
>>732855461

Doesn't matter because division and multiplication are done at the same time.

You are right, it is 10.

/b/ is fucking retarded, as always

How did any of you got out of school will forever be a mystery to me

>America schools

or not
>>
Bunch of fucking retards on this board. Only three anon have it right. It's 3.6.
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>>732854820
ty anon for not being retarded
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>>732856514
>>732856585

No you fucking idiot. How the fuck did you get 58? You a goddamn retarded?
>>732856514

2(3) is 6. Simple.
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>>732855411
There is no equation in the parentheses. It is just multiplication
>>
10 / 10
>>
36/(6+4)=3.6
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>>732854707
yup

58


6x6=36
36/2=18
18x3=54
54+4=58
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>>732862756
>36/2=18
where you get that 2 from?
>>
58
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>>732862606

maybe if you were able to answer the question (53) you could afford a better job
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>>732860145

You are a goddamn idiotioc teacher then.

>>732857149

And so are you.
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>>732862798
6 to the second(6x6) divide by 2... that the number you are asking about?
>>
Today seems to be the day /b/ lost to the kids i teach at the bottom 10% of dutch education.
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>>732862830
He is an Astronomy teacher for a reason.
>>
This hurts to read. Deal with exponent first.
36
Then deal with multiply
6
Then deal with divide 36/6
6
Then deal with addition
10
Order of operations people. "Just stop your crying it's a sign of the times" lul
>>
It's 58, you fucking retards. I'm guessing the Americans are going rampart here? This is what you get, when your school system is literally p2w.
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>>732862756
>>732862858

You goddamn idiot, you multiply that 3 in the parenthesis FIRST you fucking idiot.

I give up. More people answers these threads wrongly and most people believe it.

Anyone that did not say 10, go back to school.

I live in a world of morons.
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>>732854664
62 / 2 = 31
31 * (3) = (93)
(93) + 4 = 97

So it's 97
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>>732854664
The answer is to not write equations in any way that leaves ambiguity.
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>>732862908

Yeah, sure.

Another fucking idiot.
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>>732862606
This only applies to stupid and uneducated people, tho.
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>>732860587
brackets, indices, division, multiplication, addition and subtraction.
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>>732862948

What is ambigous there? If it was written 2x3 or (2x3) you fags would still get it wrong.

Goddamn it, what a bunch of fucking morons
>>
PEMDAS left to right

so we have 36 / 2 * 3 + 4= 18*3 + 4 = 58

easy
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>>732862921
well, someone has a temper....

the answer is it is 58

you do not address the parenthesis "first" if there is only one integer in side of it. this is not a polynomial function, just a numeric problem to look like it and it has definitely tripped you up. i guess you didnt do very well in school seeing that you cant understand the problem, and that your behavior is less then acceptable as well.
>>
Pemdas cum chuggers. It's 10.
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>>732862965
says the guy who voted Trump
>>
The answer is 10 anyone stating something should be An Hero
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>>732863016
Pemdas. Multiplication THEN division. 2 times 3 is six. Then u divide 36 by 6. Then add 4 lmao. This is basic as fuck.
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>>732863034
>i guess you didnt do very well in school seeing that you cant understand the problem,
The only problem here is that you faggots are falling for OP's bait
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>>732862921

no no no the 3 in the parenthesis is just a 3. if there were something else in there you would do that first. like if it were 3^2.
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>>732863016

Yep, this.
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>>732854820
6^2/2*3+4
36/6+4
6+4
10
Yes
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>>732863107
Parenthesis Exponents Mulitplication Division Addition Subtraction. In that order. Left to right. PEMDAS. it's 10
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>>732863107

the MD and AS are interchangeable tho
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>>732854664

Stale pasta troll is stale.
Newfags prove their new by arguing all the wrong points and failing to get this is posted weekly if not daily.
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>>732863111

This, too. the 2(3) is exactly the same as 2*3, which means it's done left to right.

So it's 6^2 = 36 / 2 = 18 * 3 = 54 + 4 = 58
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>>732862829
Not everyone can be a boss and sit behind a desk. The world needs the blue collar worker to function, the enormous also doesn't work of everyone is rich. But you'd know all that if you were an adult.
>>
Am I banned? I can't start a new thread testing
>>
>>732863154

You're doing the 2*3 out of order. If it was (2*3), you'd be right, but it's 2(3). That's the same as 2*3, which means it's done in order from left to right.
>>
>>732854824
>=36/2*3+4
>=18*3+4
well There's your problem.
>>
>>732854664

ambiguously written problem, part of why nobody uses the stupid division sign like that
>>
>>732863197
reported for ban evasion
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>>732863160

If it was (2*3), you'd be right, but it's not. It's 2(3), which is the same as 2*3 without the ().

You 'are' looking at 2(3), but there's only a 3 in the (), which means yo do NOTHING to it and go to the front, do the 6^2 and then work from left to right.

it's 58.
>>
>>732862904
>This hurts to read. Deal with exponent first.
>36

Correct

>Then deal with multiply
>6

No. The multiplication operation that you believe is a term sequentially follows a division, so the correct order of operations is 36 (divided by) 2, the product of which is 18 which is then multiplied by 3.

"2(3)" is a multiplication operation and does not take precedence over the division of 36 by 2.

Please cite a high-quality reference if you believe otherwise.

>Then deal with divide 36/6
>6
>Then deal with addition
>10
>Order of operations people.
>>
Pro tip: arguing order of operations means

a) you got trolled
And
b) you're ignorant of the fact the obelus symbol for division is inherently ambiguous in complex mathematics which is why you never see it used in serious settings. You have to _interpret_ the intent of the obelus, hence all the order of operations arguments.

So enjoy your REEEEEEE cause you're all wrong. Or at best, right for the wrong reasons.
>>
>>732863338
You only think so because you are immature 12yo edgelord
>>
>>732863308

Why are you trying to apply high level mathematical rules to basic arithmetic? If the equation is written unambiguously the order you perform the division or the multiplication is _irrelevant_.
>>
>>732862858
Yes that 2. That 2 isnt a 2 anymore.... Its a 6. So, where did you get that 2 from?
>>
>>732863285
Ah you're right. My bad. I actually thought about it after looking at several of you saying 58 and now I see it. It tricked me that damn parenthesis made me think pemdas right off and tricked me. Good call.
>>
>>732863364

I'm actually a 45 year old high school math teacher but feel free to play again next time.
>>
>>732863405
Good joke. But I am 69 years old university professor of psychology so I can see through your lies.
>>
>>732863400

Now you're getting trolled and re-educated to be stupider than you were. Way to go.
>>
>>732863405
It's ambiguous for sure.
>>
10
>>
>>732863285
>If it was (2*3), you'd be right, but it's not. It's 2(3)
But (2*3) and 2(3) are the exact same thing... Hell I was even taught to read 2(3) as (2*3) so WTF are talking about...
>>
>>732863441

I'd "prove it" but we are anonymous.

So your only recourse is to demonstrate how my assertions are wrong. Which you can't. If you try to re-write this equation without the obelus you have to _choose_ how to group the division which is an interpretation. Order of operations has nothing to do with. Division and multiplication are the same thing. The differing results is caused by the grouping not the order of operations.
>>
PEMDAS says:
6^2 / 2(3) + 4 =
6^2 / 6 + 4 =
36 / 6 + 4 =
6 + 4 =
10

10 you degenerate cucks.
>>
>>732863449
If ur following basic pemdas it's 10. I know that. I said that. But the parenthesis the way it is makes it ambiguous so I was just saying that instead of segueing I was saying hey. Here's a cookie i get why u see it that way. If I'm ganna pick one it's ten
>>
>>732863386
>Why are you trying to apply high level mathematical rules to basic arithmetic? If the equation is written unambiguously the order you perform the division or the multiplication is _irrelevant_.

It's unambiguous and the irrelevance of the order is my point. Several people have claimed it's ambiguous and I don't see that at all. The solution is obvious upon inspection.
>>
Math is tearing us apart... can we all just get along and post rape instead of this evil math shit?
>>
>>732863005
The ambiguity lies with the parentheses. The use of the parentheses implies that the 2 and 3 are meant to be multiplied together, while literal PEMDAS implies that that the 3 should multiplied after the division has already occurred. This is an ambiguous way to write a simple equation, and the entire reason the image and post were created was to create that confusion.

But I'm just an engineer, so maybe I'm just secretly really bad at math.
>>
>>732863625
>ambiguous
I'm an engineer and it's not ambiguous at all. The parentheses are distraction but don't make this ambiguous.
>>
>>732863552

nah family you do the equations inside the parenthesis first. just having the integer 3 inside a parenthesis means that there's nothing to do and a number on either side of a parenthesis means you multiply it by that number after you complete the equation inside the parenthesis. So there is no P, there's just an M.
>>
58

You dont get 3/8 from 3/4*4 (=3/4(4)), no, you get 3/4 times 4 which is 3
>>
>>732854664
>>732863449
Pemdas do what's in the parentheses first. IN THE PARENTHESES. That would just be a 3 you fuckheads. As in 3×1. Then you drop the parentheses, and it becomes 62÷2×3+4. Then you do the exponent. It's up to you to divide first or multiply first but 2(3) is not one term it's two.
>>
>>732863552
If you are following basic PEMDAS it is 58. The x3 happens after the division because the P only covers what is inside the parentheses, the multiplication follows linearly after the division.

But again, the way it is written is deliberately ambiguous.
>>
>>732863625
No pemdas is multiplication before division and then even if u look at parenthesis is still before division. Look at the word. See those letters? Those stand for things....
>>
>>732863688

I'm also an engineer. Not the anon you were replying to. This equation really isn't ambiguous. Pretty straightforward.
>>
>>732863747

I already said earlier the MD and AS are interchangeable. This is the most basic shit.

Here's a handy website for 6th graders that explains this concept.

https://www.mathsisfun.com/operation-order-pemdas.html
>>
>>732863688
The ambiguity comes from knowing that only an idiot would write the equation this way, and then attempting to understand what equation they SHOULD have written. You can interpret it directly by PEMDAS to get 58, but that assumes that one specific type of moron wrote it.
>>
>>732863190

This guy is correct.

PEMDAS says you do INSIDE the brackets first, it doesn't say that you do everything OUTSIDE the brackets first. For instance, if it was:

6^2 / 2(3+1) + 4

The first step is correctly 6^2 / 2(4) + 4, but the next step is not to then multiply 2*4, that would occur in normal order when you get to the multiply/divide step.

Anyone arguing 10, put it in excel.
>>
>>732863729
The m in pemdas stands for multiplication the d stands for division. Multiplication comes first....lol the entire point of that word is to show the order of operations. First to last. Parenthesis Exponents MULTIPLICATION Division Addition Subtraction. You read it left to right like any word like math. See how that m shaped m is before the d??
>>
>>732863849
In PEMDAS, the m and the d are interchangeable, you do them in order from left to right, just as with the a and the s.
>>
>>732863805
God damnit. I forgot it switches depending on which is first left to right multiplication or division (Addition or Subtraction) and the parenthesis is only inside he parenthesis. It is fucking 58. The fact that I just realized I was wrong, when i have a fucking masters degree, to that link makes me want to kill myself. But I'm wrong. You're right. 100%.
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>>732863940
Side note. Math is not fun. This is not fun. I feel stupid I wish I woulda been doing something reputable with my time like watching rape videos or beheadings or something a decent person does with their free time.
>>
>>732863900
Yes yes nice dubs I already realized I was wrong lol.
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