Why poor people vote against their own interests?

>>732683461
stupidity

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Why do people worry about what happens in other countries, is a better question.

>>732683461
You mean poor whites... and in that case, its because they are brought up to work for what they want, and if they fail at life, to accept it and move on.

Poor whites, the proud ones, would rather die in a ditch than ask for gibs

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>>732683461
Because the ultra wealthy will it. Marketing and public manipulation are basically solved sciences; we know how to make people want or believe whatever we choose.

That's why I'm so indecisive about what I want my goals in life to be, after success. Should I help the people? Should I take advantage of them so I can make the most money possible?

Ultimately the question is "Do they deserve to be helped?" And that's something I've been having a lot of trouble with.

>>732683768
This is correct.
Poor whites that don't live in urban areas(niggerfied) don't blame their life on anyone or expect anyone to change it for them

>>732683950
Coupled with the fact that poor rural whites are basically failures at life leads to systemic poverty for them and their idiot children.

>>732683461

Because they're all fucking morons.

>>732684070
What do you base failure/success on, owning a specific car, house, etc? Or happiness?

>>732683768

Basically, trained from birth to not expect the government to do its job and help the people out.

And then gets mad that other countries treat their people better.

>>732683461
because its not about whats good for you right now its whats good for the nation and your future children, i state of slaves on the government dole is bad for everyone. go back to Venezuela

>>732684070
You would be confusing truth with the brainwashing that swept the country after the civil war. Rural whites dont move because they love where they are from. They also tend to live mostly in the south. Post civil war the industry of the south was destroyed. Railroads destroyed. Fields destroyed... what that means is without infrastructure all industry moved north leaving the rural whites to fend for themselves.

Yes, the civil war is still relevant in many ways 160 years later

>>732684251
Poorly educated, working shit jobs for shit pay, have way too many children that have to grow up poor because mommy and daddy were too stupid to advance in life and have less children.

>>732684636
>all industry moved north leaving the rural whites to fend for themselves.
Sounds like they got what they deserved for engaging in rebellion.

>>732684664
t.Childless nonwhite NEET

>>732684321
Rural whites couldnt care less what happens in other countries, nor are they really mad about the government, other than wishing it would stay out of their lives.

Again, poor rural whites are the last group to put their hand out and say gibs me dat. The Democratic party exists only because its voters vote based almost solely on "what will you give me for my vote" mentality

>>732684774

More to the point, the guy you're replying to is wrong wrong wrong.

The South had 'never' had any real industrial strength before the Civil War. They were almost exclusively an agrarian society, growing crops, either as poor white farmers or rich plantation owners with slave labor.

>>732684858
>The Democratic party exists only because its voters vote based almost solely on "what will you give me for my vote" mentality
Heaven forbid that people prefer their government to invest in them rather than pissing it away so people not cut out for college can join the military.

>>732684858

Except for things like Medicare, right? And food stamps. And welfare. And Section 8 housing. And pretty much all that shit that they ask for

>>732684664
Right. Great fucking idea. White people need to have less children. I mean, this is the kind of tactical thinking that puts /b/ at the forefront of thought

>>732685040
People who cannot afford to have children should not have any children, regardless of race.

Maybe they aspire to be something grander than
a cog, to be used, in your globalist fantasies?

Since nothing Liberals do or say matters, fuck off?

>>732685040

Yeah, poor retarded whites need to have more kids so we can get to Idiocracy as soon as possible.

>>732683461

>leftists wonder why they lost the white vote

no wait no they don't because it was the russians

>>732684963
Government doesnt exist to support a people. It exists to defend national interests and provide infrastructure.

Government should basically never touch your life, nor come into your daily thinking. If it does, it needs to be pruned back

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>>732683461
real answer below:

>republicans promote the reduction of benefits as "keeping the cheaters/scammers out while keeping honest users in". people mistakenly believe that they will get more of the pie if there are less leeches draining the system, so they vote for stricter laws when end up against their own interest

>>732683461
>Work 25 hours a week
>No experience
>Make too much to qualify for any program you're talking about

Why would I vote democrat if they don't give me shit? If you benefit from their programs then you're a fuck up.

Do you think that someone with effectively no education, since highschool was basically extended babysitting for anyone who wasn't prepped for college, is able to discern their own interests? Do you think that they are going to be able to effectively pick out which politicians are going to put political capital behind which policies, and work out which of those policies are going to serve their interests?

You don't give the poor and uneducated the right to vote because it somehow enfranchises them, you give them the right to vote because it enhances the power of those with the tools to mobilize the populace in large numbers without requiring those shaping public opinion to murder one another to seize power.

>>732685032

Medicare is earned. Section 8 housing basically doesnt exist in rural communities.

>>732683461
>implying voting blue is in the interests of the poor

>>732683461
I dunno, OP. It's almost like poor people are stupid!

>>732685257
>Government doesnt exist to support a people.
This is what stupid people actually believe. Meanwhile, they advocate pumping more money into Republican Welfare (military) that goes to waste.

Rural people just shouldn't vote.

>>732683461
>>>/pol/
Fuck off with the political threads

Are you really asking why someone would want to stop everyone from getting free everything and living like braindead lardasses? The poor are poor because of all of these handouts.

>>732685500
Yea they must be distracting you from jacking it to tranny porn.

>>732683950
>don't blame their life on anyone
Are you fucking kidding me? Those people blame Obama for everything. Coal miners in their 30s who have families blame Obama for the industry dying and their kids going hungry, not the fact they shouldn't be having kids to begin with.

>>732684916
You didnt make it very far in school did you?

Of the 4 largest ship yards in America, 3 were in the south. So were all of the factories that processed the food like wheat and cotton. The top 5 largest docks in America were southern... and connecting it all together was roads, bridges, and rail roads.

The idea the south never had industry of any kind is BS parroted by northerners as a reason why they were superior.

>>732685604
>Of the 4 largest ship yards in America, 3 were in the south. So were all of the factories that processed the food like wheat and cotton. The top 5 largest docks in America were southern... and connecting it all together was roads, bridges, and rail roads.
Citation needed.

>>732683461
no dependent on government handouts.

>>732685604
Odd, they had all those shipyards and ports and somehow they were utterly defenseless against the Union blockade. Were they just incompetent?

>>732684205
because they are paying for it.

>>732684321
sure kid

>>732685404
The military is just about the only expense that a government can justify. In fact, the military was meant to be the ONLY reason for the first American income tax

Fast forward a few hundred years and the topic has been so bastardized we are sitting here bullshitting on a mostly non-american message board

>>732684664
sure kid

>>732683461
Why do they keep making up lies about people they don't know?

>>732685847

Money moves North to South in terms of Federal tax dollars to services.

>>732684963
not cut out for college.
my aren't we high and mighty.

>>732686031
Soldier detected. Have fun dying for nothing so that everyone back home can forget you ever lived.

>>732685365
in keeping them poor.

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>>732684070
as the child of a rural white family I disagree

parents basically worked their asses off so I could have a better life than what they got as kids

it's not so much intelligence as it is responsibility that will take a person through life and help them succeed; if you take responsibility for yourself and your actions and do what you gotta do then you can be successful and happy but if you always blame somebody else for your failures you will be miserable and never learn from your mistakes

>>732686106
well I found me a retard.

>>732683461
Because many of those welfare types of people who voted Republican is tired of being dependant on the government. They would rather have more opportunities to work for money and contribute to the community, than get a welfare check. A better economy will do exactly that.

>>732685933
the post that didn't need to be.

>>732686220
How is he retarded? That's basically what happened to all those chumps who fought and died for nothing in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

>>732686303
fails reading comprehension too.

>>732686256
There are plenty of opportunities for them to work, the problem is that they aren't qualified to do much more than physical labor. If they spent half as much time improving themselves as they spent blaming immigrants from taking their unskilled jobs they wouldn't be worthless.

>>732686031
>my aren't we high and mighty.
No that's just how it looks to you since you're looking up from the bottom.

>>732685933

And that is not correct. In fact 3 southern states return more money to the Fed than your poster child California does

>>732686488

Is California North?

>>732683461
Most of those poor rednecks actually aren't on any government aid, aside from being in too low of an income bracket to pay federal income taxes. Even in the South which is dominated by republicans, if you actually look at the districts which frequently vote Democrat, they're all intercity black areas, which is, also where almost all of the section 8 housing is.

chinese junta sent a trade mission to scope out the east coast discount/everything for the house car garage stereo & pantry in '79 ( govt employees only)
the lil fellas in green caps & suits,caps with a red star,walked up and down,seeing the vast aisles
loaded,neatly loaded with fronted mechandise,all top of the line stuff,japanese german,norwegian furniture, all stuff only their elites could access when travelling to europe,we had it all,for about half the price of europe sold stuff.
employees mostly had a working elsewhere spouse,and could purchase anything this store offered,for an additional employee discount, chinese asked themselves what did americas' system of private business do,that 50 years of centralized chinese mgnt could not? chinese answer we see over the past few years,they have become a loaner nation,we,they largest wealth
borrowing debtor nation,which debt interest we pay each quarter
goes to build them new modern military hardware.
clowns like the fat guy above are more likely than not,democrats,hillary voters.
that guy and those lo info democrat pals will either starve or go out and get jobs

>>732685933
Fuck off Yankee I'd rather be poor that suck on your economic bosom. Take your welfare dollars back and stop feeding all of our niggers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NZlBgXMJk

>>732686574
California is as yanky as it gets

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>>732685464
>Rural people just shouldn't vote.

>People who not pay taxes just should not be allowed to vote.

Exception: five years honorable military service
Void if gender of applicant "changes"

fixed it for ya

kek

>>732686485
sure kid

>>732686256
>Because many of those welfare types of people who voted Republican is tired of being dependant on the government. They would rather have more opportunities to work for money and contribute to the community, than get a welfare check. A better economy will do exactly that.
That's retarded, literally mentally handicapped.

>>732686895
Some of us are cut out for greater things in life than military service. Asking us to put our lives on hold so we can intermingle with the rural filth in the military is just ludicrous

>>732685557
I mean, the poorest city in the States became that way as a direct consequence of Obama shitting all over the coal mine that supplied their economy. It was a direct 1:1 occurrence.

Although hilariously enough that 95% white town's crime rate is still significantly lower than the wealthiest black area which does a lot to answer OP's bait.

>>732687052
>Why liberals are worthless, all in one comment

>>732687262
Natural gas is the reason why coal is falling out of favor.

>>732683752
Why would you not? Eventually their problems will become your problems.
>overpopulation
>global economies
>war
>disease

>>732687295
>says the guy who considers being in the military an accomplishment

>>732687455
>says the "guy" without balls

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>>732687543
>relies on military employment for income because he's otherwise worthless
>questions someone elses manhood

>>732687644
>military income...
>Desperately tries to justify his cowardice.

>>732683768

There is still quite a few white trash welfare families out there.

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It's not in our interests if USA goes broke giving away free shit! Nothing in life should be free, and it does not work to just print more money ( hyper inflation ).

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>>732687052
>Some of us are cut out for greater things in life
- seyz the King of de Gibs

Then do not vote, I respect your choice to not matter, even further.

>>732687757
It's not cowardice to not want to piss my life away when I have better opportunities. Military service is meant for people who don't have opportunities. Asking those of us who do have opportunities to take the place of those who do not is not rational.

>>732687955
>Military service is meant for people who don't have opportunities.
Or rather for people who wasted those opportunities.

>>732683461
Because ameriturds are fuckin retards
Not surprising since their education is shit
Keep spending hundred of billions in the military, it's not like you need infrastructures, education and basic rights like healthcare...

trump will make it so much worse, when he's done they will officially be a country of poorfags with 90% eating shit, 10% owning everything and 0,1% being God on earth.

>>732687955
It's cowardice to look down on those allowing you to live to see those "opportunities".

>>732687880
You're confusing me with someone in the military, where they really do not matter. If they mattered, they wouldn't be volunteering to go die so they can pretend they protected americas freedom.

Because they know the sooner that we let them die off. The better the country will be.

>>732688037
sure kid

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LOL It's funny you think this guy is out to help you. How about we get them to pass laws stating they have to obey all laws we do except Pol. speech.

>>732688150
trumpanzee spotted

how's having the biggest retard on the planet as president working for you?

>>732688075
You should check the dictionary and see what "cowardice" actually means. I do look down on them, I won't deny that. I look down on them because they are beneath me. My personal disgust for them does not equal cowardice.

>>732688130
we'll be drafting soon so you'll get your chance.

There's a reason stupid follows fat, and they both follow poor and uneducated...I could draw you a map but it would be a very simple one.

>>732683461
Why do city people vote forcefully fuck over people in other states because they hate state laws.

They're the sheep who help us educated ppl get republicans voted in. They're just as dumb as the niggers and beaners, but we use them to our advantage. That's life.

>>732687955
talk about misinformed.

>>732688244
Yea good luck. It'll be hilarious to see the government try and fail to draft the people they've been working to fuck over.

>>732688232
You're not willing to fight for what you have, but are fine with others doing so for you. I don't need the dictionary, I'm looking at the definition of a coward.

An arrogant one at that, so even more pathetic.

>>732688205
found another retard.

>>732683461
They're idiots. If you're a NEET or work in government vote Democrat, if you're not vote Republican. Be selfish and vote for what helps you out the most. Simple.

>>732688232
so you are a self righteous coward

Got it

>>732688283
sure kid

>>732688370
You think people in the military today are fighting to protect what we have? Talk about ignorant. The last time U.S. troops fought for anything worthwhile was the Civil War.

>>732688363
yet another retard.

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>>732688370
>You're not willing to fight for what you have
Who are you fighting for me to have a Keurig and a Playstation?

>>732688544
Dubs of truth

>>732688516
doesn't see the irony.

>>732688516
You're still trying so hard to justify you being a pathetic coward.

>>732685129
You dumb fucking tard. having children is a good thing. It doesn't matter how poor you are.
Children are an economic investment. You take care of them now and in 15 years they will be making you money, in 30 they will be taking care of you.
I mean seriously go fuck yourself. According to your standards nobody on earth should have had a child before the 1930's

>>732688205
Still better than the Chillary! The messed up part is right now no matter who one there would be an investigation .

>>732683461
Actually all of what you said would make since, to act like refugees and illegals are not taking away and destroying America's safety net is retarded. You dumb ass democrats think nothing has a cost.

>>732688618
has never met a millennial.

>>732688401
>trumpanzee calling someone else retard

the irony

tell me Cletus, the reason you want to fuck your mother is because of Soros, right? Dam jews, it's always them!

>>732685179
Shouldn't we instead force niggers to stop having children since they are even more retarded? Actually whites across america are generally as smart as each other.

>>732688544
>>732688516
Do either one of you idiots, really think you'd have anything, if everyone in the military just walked off? If so you're both pathetic.

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>>732688130

We will form special Brigades, where you and your husband can serve together. We will honor
you as "Elite Neets" and drop you from helicopters onto the enemy!

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>>732688684
>matter
>who
>one

... you said you voted for Trump?

>>732688618
>he thinks 15 year old make money for their parents
>he thinks 30 year olds are supporting their parents instead of supporting their own children

>>732688736
still doesn't get it. keeps responding.

>>732688684
>Still better than the Chillary!

this is what ameriturds actually believe

>>732685285
>implying republicans are using welfare
Why is /b/ so retarded? it didn't use to be like this.

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>>732688841
This is what we actually know

FTFY

>>732683461

They assume that they will be rich in the near future , so fuck the little guy because they will be rich in the upcoming years .

>>732688892
you're here.

>>732684858
>Except for things like Medicare, right? And food stamps. And welfare. And Section 8 housing. And pretty much all that shit that they ask for

This is some sort of image you have constructed in your head. This is far from reality

>>732688810
We'd actually have a lot more, because then our government wouldn't have any justification to piss away over 60% of the budget so people with a GED can shoot brown people.

>>732688810
>everyone in the military just walked off
You have no idea how large the United States military is, do you? Also - if tomorrow every member of the military left, I would still have my possessions?

>>732688831

>still doesn't answer, has no arguments

I thought trumpanzees had all the time in world to shitpost, I mean that's basically your only goal in life

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>>732688892
>Why is /b/ so retarded?

pic related

>>732688969
sure kid

>>732685342
>college
College is just more extended day care. Just look at the state of college today. They are literal children. Just look around you. People have become domesticated.

>>732688810
Yea because otherwise we'd get invaded by those sand people or by north korea right?

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>>732688963
... well if Susan Sarandon said it...

>>732688467
>kid
H-h-hooooah shit, his patronizing invalidates my argument. He sees right through me

>>732689036
still posting

>>732689067
>College is just more extended day care.
How would you know what college is like if you never attended one?

>>732689000
,and what would stop people from taking that? You? You've already made it quite clear you're too much of a coward to do anything, so even if you're right, you'd still be mortally fucked without the military.

>>732689036
>thinks calling someone a trumpanzee is an argument

>>732689103
yawn

>>732688963
>Susan Sarandon said it
>it must be true

holy shit bro

How do you defend hiring half of Goldman Sachs and giving them the Treasury? You know, something that even Hillary wouldn't have done

>>732689090
....well if an anon isnt satisfied with the truth...

>>732688516

This must be one of those "no borders" idiots.
First to be ass raped when the shit gets real.

>>732689131
>he thinks the military is what's stopping other from taking our stuff.
You're a chump. I'm sorry you got suckered in to buying that retarded bullshit the recruiters sold you.

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Because there are no poor people in america, only temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

>>732688827
>he thinks 15 year old aren't going to make money for their parents
Thats why you force them to get a job.
>he thinks 30 year olds don't support both their children and their parents.
I'm guessing your a spoiled brat whose parents let you sit on the couch all day or you're a 30 year old bachelor who still relies on his parents income.

>>732689109
always

still answering Cletus? But I still see no argument

>>732683461
>>732683461
If they were smart, they wouldn't be poor to begin with

>>732683768
> its because they are brought up to work for what they want

You've clearly never met poor white people

>>732689220
name a single disarmed country who exists without the assurance of an armed country.

Ill wait

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>>732689191
yeah bro he should fight Goldman Sachs alongside us and Hillary

>>732689268
No I actually moved out of my parents house and have my own. I'm sorry that your parents were such failures that they need their children to support them.

>>732687262
>the poorest city in the States became that way as a direct consequence of Obama shitting all over the coal min

citation needed

>>732683768
I used to be poor and i can tell you a good 9/10 poor Americans are on some sort of welfare and complain about shit.

Poor white people dont really know how to do much.

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>>732688736
Is this the best you lefties got?
>c-call them rednecks

>>732689299
keeps embarrassing himself.

>>732689351
I see you're pretty comfortable with trump and his crooks talking shit about Goldman Sachs and all those globalists for months, then filling the entire cabinet with them

Again, not that I expect logic from a trumpanzee

>>732689244
>rich people tell poor people what poor people are thinking whether or not the poor people realize it.
This is why nobody likes you.

>>732689336
neither have you.

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>>732683461
>pro-2nd amendment people form the largest group of single issue voters which amounts to 5+ million people
>millions of other people consider it one of the biggest issues they're concerned with
>the anti-gun lobby has only a fraction of the people who seriously care about it
>democrats have such a hard-on for stripping people of their constitutional rights that they'll willingly let republicans with rather than take a common sense approach to guns
Really makes you think why Democrats run a platform that no one wants aside from the most hardcore democrats.

>>732689343
I'm not arguing for total disarmament retard. I'm arguing for reducing the scale of out military to focus solely on defense, which is much easier for us than other countries, since we have two oceans on our sides, a friendly government to the North and a government that essentially relies on our economy to the South. Shutter the overseas military bases and reconstitute the military to focus on defense at the land borders, while relegating the Navy to focus on defense along the coastlines. We're pissing away trillions on a standing army that we don't need.

>>732689409
>focusing on the messenger and not the message

>>732689567
common sense.

>>732689369
99% of the parents in the world are failures. Not everyone can be rich.

>>732689497
I'm not the trump supporter here, therefore I'm clearly not the one who should be embarrassed

hell, you should be so embarrassed that you'd never leave your house... oh wait, that already happens

>>732689681
You don't have to be rich to put money away for retirement, you just have to not waste money frivolously.

>>732687955
>Military service is meant for people who don't have opportunities

fucking this. why do you think republicans are always cutting VA and shit. military is bottom tier and can't/won't do shit about it.

I respect our military and the men and women who serve - but there are economic conditions that force the majority of people into the military. And listening to military complain about "welfare" while working a government job is fucking embarrassing.

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>>732689541
dawg, dawg, dawg Im on your side. I agreed with what you said and think Im a trumpanzee?

Im a warrior. I bash the fash!

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>>732689652
One person - saying they think that Hillary is "more dangerous". That's all you need? Because I can find TONS of videos and image macros of people "celebrity and not" saying the opposite? Will you just immediately believe them?

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>>732689000

Your earnest lack of knowledge might pass for profundity in your virtue circles; here in public where there be folks who have actually served, not so much. More like the mouthing of a man-child who never learned there is a cost to freedom. Never argue with an idiot anons, they drag you down to their level where they have the most experience.

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>>732689763

>>732689651
The military ensures national interests. Those interests include killing people for resources.

There is a reason Switzerland isnt a superpower

>>732689763
still he embarrasses himself

>>732689861
Buddy unless you just stepped out of a time machine from the Civil War you never fought for freedom.

>>732689415
>Poor white people dont really know how to do much.
>>732689415

Thank you. people who didn't grow up poor, or around actually poor people - they don't fucking understand.

>>732689849
sure kid

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>>732689851
>he's face-palming now
Omg this is amazing. Yes, that all I need sweetie.

>>732689831
>complain about "welfare" while working a government job is fucking embarrassing.

Key words there...working... as in doing something other than making 99 cent cheeseburgers

>>732689908
whoa man truth

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>>732690035
>the summer

>>732689908
The U.S. isn't going to be a superpower for much longer either. Now would be a good time to learn Chinese.

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>>732689999
>digits
thanks fellow intelligent anon. Now lets get these darn TRUMPANZEES they make me sooo mad!

>>732689770
But having children costs money.

>>732683461
Its more complicated than that, OP.
If poor whites TRULY knew the level they are getting fucked by big white/Jewish corporations, they wouldn't be christofascist republican fag voters

>>732683461
>vote against their interests
Last time I checked, the overwhelming majority of voters who live below the poverty line vote for democrats.

>>732689831
>I respect our military and the men and women who serve
Stop lying. We know you don't.

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>>732689191
>something that even Hillary wouldn't have done

Impossibrew!

She served fifteen years on WalMart BoD; Clinton's were never one to turn down money...
ever!

>>732690228
Then either have fewer children or advance further in life to make more money. Life isn't hard you just have to not fuck it up.

>>732690265
sure kid

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>>732689658
The democrats are completely and irrationally devoid of common sense when it comes to firearms. Cuomo who finances EveryTown against Gun Violence doesn't even know the difference between an automatic and semi-automatic firearm. These people think suppressors make firearms completely silent, that folding stocks, pistol grips, and bayonet lugs make a firearm 1000% more deadly. Letting democrats pass legislation of firearms is like letting southern baptists decide the science curriculum.

This issue is why I'll never vote democrat even though I'm fairly socially liberal.

>>732690270
they will never admit this

>>732690363
Who cares if he doesn't? I thought military people prided themselves on doing thankless work.

>>732690440
you must be twelve

>>732690265
They sure as fuck arent going to vote for the godless fag loving Democrats... so what you are really saying is, some grand enlightenment will magically make all the poor whites stop voting instantly?

>>732689067

>College is just more extended day care

Hardly.

>>732689908
And yet Switzerland has the highest quality living on earth. Highest overall "happiness"... socialism. You'll say "no niggers" but it's actually the socialism that makes it the greatest country on earth to live.

>>732683461
>Why poor people vote against their own interests?

Because you have an 2 Party democracy with no real choice?

>>732690440
Are you genuinely retarded?
Having children is good. Its good for the economy, its good for you as an mother and father.
The idea that you have to be super rich to have children is bullshit.
You have no arguments and you've moved the goalposts so much that you forgot the original point of the argument.

>>732690622
And where does that money come from to finance that socialism? Oh thats right... its nice to be a tiny 99% white tax haven isnt it?

>>732690622
Switzerland isn't a socialist country. It's a capitalist country that has some socialist policies.

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>>732689964
>you never fought for freedom.

Not your buddy, btfo. I did, and while doing so I was perfectly aware there was the possibility of me losing my life so an idiot like you can spout off. Go ahead, it does not matter, nothing you say matters.

>>732690805
I've never told anyone to not have children. I encourage people to live within their means. If you're dirt poor and have five kids then somewhere along the line you fucked up, badly.

>>732690518
I care if someone lies. Why don't you care if someone lies? I don't care what the military thinks. I don't care what people in the army think.
What I do care about is that he would lie to push his agenda.
And then I care that people like you also make up non sensical bullshit to push your agenda.

What America needs is a truly worker/labor/people's party. Yeah, "Democratic Socialist".

The problem is that since the FCC got deregulated, faggots like Rush Limbaugh have CONVINCED poor whites that Obama was a socialist.... when he really was a center-left Wall Street Cuck. If we had a real socialist alternative, all the fake Christian Cuckabees would scatter like the cockroaches they are.

>>732690594
I'm going to college right now.
Yes it is. Its easy as fuck. Everyone here is a gaint manchild.
It really really is just more child daycare. Okay, maybe its not like child daycare. Its more like a children summer camp for 4 years.

>>732691164
sure kid

>>732687449
>>732687449
>Why would you not? Eventually their problems will become your problems.

>Eventually

So when I'm dead.
why should I care again?

>>732691093
Everybody lies. People in the military lie when they say they fought to protect American freedom. Civilians lie when they thank troops for their service. Lying is one of those things that everybody does. If you think you don't lie then you're just lying to yourself.

>>732690622
Its funny because Switzerland is a very right wing country.

>>732691309
Old white John Deere fucker has arrived.

Stay off /b/, pedo troll

>>732690226
I hate Trump but I probably hate commies more

>>732690961
Please, tell me more about how those dirt poor people in Iraq were a threat to our freedom.

>>732691031
Id argue that the right to have children is a god given right, and the "right" to healthcare, protection from mean people, and all the rest of identity politics, is nothing more than brainwashed bullshit.

>>732691417
more retards

>>732691031
As long as you can physically feed the kids its fine. Its an investment in the future.

>>732683752

Idk, ask Europe how they feel about that. They're getting fucked by muslims because the USA destroyed their home nations.

>>732691531
not when they refuse to work

>>732691553
they are getting fucked by leaving them in.

Because not all of us are self centered kikes and vote based on principles rather than our self interests

>>732691389
>People in the military lie when they say they fought to protect American freedom.
I live in a military heavy area in the South and I'm so tired of hearing this crap. My boss stopped hiring former military people because he got sick of their preaching about service at work.

>>732691409
A right wing country? One that can keep its tentacles out of sandnigger affairs and provide healthcare for all citizens and a 24 hour workweek and immense environmental protections. Advancement in infrastructure and solar energy collection. They're a better more functional country than the USA. Since you're so stupid, you'll blame "niggers", when it's really the Walton family and ExxonMobil who make your country shit.

>>732691618
They don't get to refuse to work. If they refuse to work you kick them out of the house.
If you're such a bad parent you're child is such a spoiled brat he refuses to help out with family chores and finances when he is capable then you actually have failed.

>>732691519
You absolutely have the right to have children. Just as you have the right to live in poverty because you were having more kids than you could afford to support.

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>>732688841
She set up an improper e-mail account for Gov. use. Then deleted 33K e-mails to userp the law. If it's so wrong to meddle in other countries elections we need to check ourselves. USA does that all the time in Russia, Iran, ect...

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>>732691730

America takes pride in its alcohol and opiate addiction and its hypertension and early death.

>>732683461
If you actually fall for the political theater that is the false Democrat/Republican dichotomy, you are a stupid fool.

>>732683461
They vote for what they think is right, not what they can get out of it.

Aaaand the second amendment is against poor people's interests while the ostentatiously corrupt Dem Party is 'for' poor white males HOW, exactly?

This entire thread can be answered easily

Democrats took a calculated risk years ago by aligning themselves with identity politics. They have decided to champion the causes that for the most part people outside large urban cities detest.

Anti firearm, pro homosexuality, pro abortion, pro immigration, pro refugee... The list goes on.

The Dems knew the risks and thought the cities could carry them through elections. Dems will either need to drop the identity politics or people are just going to be polarize more to the right.

To answer OPs question... Because poor whites hate just about everything the Democratic party stands for

>>732691781
Chores are one thing but if you have to force your kids to get jobs to help support the family your brought into the world it's time that you face up to the fact that you're a failure.

>>732684321
>not expect the government to do its job and help the people out
That's not the government's job. The government's job is to protect its people from foreign and domestic threats. It's pure retardery to act like free healthcare is anything at all what the founding fathers had in mind for the nation. They had just rebelled against the largest empire in the world because they didn't like how big the government was.

>>732691781
?

>>732691951
Nothing in life is free. You help pay rent at your parents house, or you can leave and pay rent somewhere else. You dont get to live at home for free forever just because you are special

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>>732683461

>>732691983
That's an inaccurate portrayal of why the founders rebelled against Britain and of what they had in mind for the country. They also argued against a standing army and getting involved in foreign affairs but I don't see you railing against that.

>>732692102
>forever
Nobody's arguing that parents should support their adult children. If you have your young children working to help support you then you're a failure.

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>>732691730
Yes, switzerland. The country that is extremely nationalist. The country that is racist.
>24 hour workweek
Bullshit
>One that can keep its tentacles out of sandnigger affairs
has nothing to do with being right wing. Actually Muslims are right wing. If anything, destroying the middle east would then be a leftwing practice, no?
>Advancement in infrastructure and solar energy collection.
The U.S. is the contributes the most advancement to the medical field with a constant stream of new drugs.
>They're a better more functional country than the USA
probably because they are majority white and extremely nationalistic.
>Since you're so stupid, you'll blame "niggers", when it's really the Walton family and ExxonMobil who make your country shit.
prove it.
>healthcare
The reason they can afford is because of capitalistic policy. Rich go to Switzerland because they can avoid as much taxes.
Funny how capitalism works.
Go back to /leftypol/

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>>732683461
Thread is flawed, in that the image says something different than the OP.

An obese faggot who collects all that government assistance should be honest with his society that he tries on those programs to help him afford his medication, tattoos, guns, and Oxford commas.

>>732692190
I'm upset at that too. Toppling random dictatorships in the middle east doesn't exactly serve our interests. Wars should be fought to expand or maintain our influence.

>>732692286
You cant work any younger than 16 years old... that isnt a "young child"... that is legal to fuck in many states. If you are old enough to produce your own children, dam right you better start working

>>732689475
>ignoring all arguments
>asking if an "insult" is the best they got
retard confirmed

>>732683461
We are all the billionaires Like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates democrats. Yet democrats claim all billionaires are republicans.

>>732692365
Nice unrelated infographic and half hour worth of work not even debunking my claims. It's not the nationalism, faggot.
It's that the people are willing to help fund national healthcare. And it's the greatest country on earth.

>>732692490
Argue all you want but the fact is that if you need your kids to work to support the family you brought into the world then you're a failure, not just as a parent but as an adult.

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>>732683950

So my whole dad's side of the family (that influenced me the most by far) is hardcore military rural white. Like I grew up in a small town on the edge of the prairie and had internet, so I didn't live it quite as directly; but that was pretty much my upbringing still. Had my own .22 and could gut a fish at 5 years old type thing.

That mentality has seen us through generations of hardship that does get unfairly shit on by the media and PC culture cause muh melatonin, true. Hell, it's the only thing that kept me focused on the end of the tunnel as I'm about to graduate university. But it's also like holding a blade that cuts your own hand if you squeeze onto it too hard.

Sometimes it's OK to ask for help, or even just accept it when offered by a friend. That's like the whole point of being part of the same country. Grow strong, work hard, and look out for your neighbor. Do we need stringent measures to prevent welfare fraud and jobs to replace the ones we phase out from coal? Yeah, abso-fuckin-lutely, and the blatant disregard to implement either of those things is how the Dems slit their own throats this go around. That and SJWs, but people are slowly waking up to that bullshit. I mean you can extrapolate the principle out to most of the country in different ways.

My parents worked their asses off so I could have a better future than them, and it's looking like with a little luck I just might if things keep up. But I want that for everyone and don't see a reason why we as a whole can't achieve it.

>>732691907

/thread

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>>732683461
Yes, obamacare has no premiums.

>>732692702

And no, I sure as fuck did not vote for Hillary, like goddamn

>>732691907
This isn't something dems calculated. Its a very natural occurrence.
Orginizations like the NAACP don't want to die. Imagine you create an organization to fight a cause. For 3 years your organization employs hundreds of people and gives the leaders of that organization more political power.
What happens when that goal is achieved though? They have nothing left to do. Do you really think they are just going to pack their bags? Nope. This is why every time any group makes any major achievment they always say "we've made great progress and have achieved our goal but its only the beginning"
The truth is its the end. So what do they do? They intentionally look for things to fight for, they make up things to fight for. Eventually they will split up into a bunch of different organizations. All of them just hoping there is a purpose to their existence.

>>732691951
Even if you don't need the money you should still force them to get a job so they know what the real world is like.

>>732692380
Agreed. The guy in the pic is a hypocrite.
It's not about all poor whites, it's about the guy that cashes as many government checks as he can, but still votes republican and has a DTOM flag on his truck

>>732692702
>jobs to replace the ones we phase out from coal
And how exactly do you propose we do that while still maintaining a free market? Most coal jobs have been lost to increased productivity or to natural gas becoming cheaper and more widespread.

>>732692609
>And it's the greatest country on earth.
Fuck off. They are very nationalist. They are a very right wing country. You can't deny this because it is true.
>its the greatest country on earth
[citation needed]
>inb4 but people are happy
Just because you give everybody anti depressants doesn't mean your country is the best. There really is no objective best.

I digress, the point is Switzerland is very right wing.

>>732693201
All we'd have to do is stop buying shit from third worlders.
The U.S. needs to produce our own things.

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Yo fuk dem racyis ass muddafuggas. You racysim be liek the worst thang in da universe.

>>732693493
Have fun with that but most people prefer to have cheap goods than a few people get manufacturing jobs.

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>>732692190
>inaccurate portrayal
It is directly in line with the classical liberal political theory.

I think you need to read Locke, Voltaire, Adam Smith and even John Stuart Mill. Their works illuminate much of the mindset which was gaining popularity in the late 18th century.

Also you may benefit from reading the actual journals and diaries which were kept not only by the rich and powerful of the American revolution but also those which were kept by your average farmer / citizen soldier.

In short, you are incorrect and likely misinformed. Do some more research.

>>732691553
pwnt

>>732688244
Given how disgruntled people are with government, any attempts to institute a draft today would likely see most people dodging the draft, probably more so than in Vietnam.

>>732693593
Which is why we need to make Chinese goods more expensive. a tariff would work. The best part though as that things wouldn't actually have to be that much more expensive.
Apple for example has billions just sitting there. of course the refuse to move it to the U.S. because of tax but its there. The fact that it is there means that their producst are already way over priced and they could easily afford to produce in america for a minimal price difference.
The entire idea of a service economy is complete bullshit. Look to india.

>>732693691
>Do some more research.
The cookie-cutter response from people who are called out on their bullshit.

>>732694058

>Called out on out on their bullshit.

He gave you reasoning to his previous post AND readings to help you understand his point.

Nice autism.

>>732694039
That could work if you could convince manufacturers to accept lower profit margins, which I find unlikely. I doubt that we could move most manufacturing back to the U.S. without seeing higher prices, due to higher wages here. I'd rather see dirt poor kids in China work themselves to death for cheap goods in the U.S. than expensive goods in the U.S. in exchange for Americans getting jobs.

>>732694058
But he's right and you are wrong. If he were a faggot liberal he would have just told you to get educated but he actually gave you sources.

>>732694268
>gave you sources
>Do some more research
Try again

>>732694444
bad b8

>>732694246

>I'd rather see dirt poor kids in China work themselves to death for cheap goods in the U.S. than expensive goods in the U.S. in exchange for Americans getting jobs.

Ah, you must enjoy being on the good end of the wealth inequality stick.

>>732687449
>overpopulation
Stop giving foreign aid and people will stop having more children than they can have.
>war
Bill Clinton got paid speaking fees by defense contractor Lockheed Martin, most likely as part of a pay-for-play scheme. Hillary's talked tough about dealing with Russia. Hillary ran the state department that fucked up Benghazi, and funded and armed many rebels who have increased war in the middle east.
>global economies
Get smarter about how foreign aid is distributed. Obama had 8 years to fix shit, why would you expect a Hillary-type candidate to do better?

>>732694246
Buts its unsustainable to have Chinese kids making our shit for us. We need something.
What we are doing now is not good.
Our money is going to run out eventually. The U.S. dollar will collapse and we will all be fucked, all because we refused to take action. We are literally being drained of our wealth by china for their cheap shitty goods. We are getting to the point where it might be easier for Apple to just become a Chinese company as they can sell their iphones to Chinese people, which there are more of.
Nobody seems to understand the threat China is to the entire western world. Before the industrial revolution China was always more advanced and richer than all the western nations. If we don't do something fast not only will America crumble but China will be the new leader of the world.

>>732683461
Cause they have more fat in their brain than grey matter.

>>732683752
Because jews have forced us to care. Now if one country fails we all do.
it didn't have to be like this.

>>732694620
Yea, it's pretty awesome. Anybody who says otherwise is telling you a lie.

>>732694701
China overtaking the U.S. is all but an inevitability. All empires have their time in the sun and are then replaced. It happened to Rome, it happened to Britain, it's happening now to the U.S., it'll eventually happen to China.

>>732686895
with regards to that picture, weren't they all domestic terror attacks?

>>732688827
Iam 27 moved to help my father who is sick atm found a job in 2 weeks lol

>>732694996
Might be more appropriate to say "homegrown terror" than "domestic terror." Some of them were committed by people who had immigrated here but there's no evidence they were directed by ISIS or the like.

>>732695106
Congrats for you. My parents worked hard enough and smart enough so they don't have to rely on their adult children.

>>732695296
>>732695106

He said his father was sick. Nice to know that some people here would leave their parents in the wind if they were ever needed. But what should I expect from /b/?

>>732695412
My father has great health coverage from his decades on his job. I wouldn't have to uproot my life to care for them because they wouldn't be in the wind. That's the benefit of him making good choices in life.

>>732683461
people who make poor decisions...continue to make poor decisions.

>>732691444
Truth trips

>>732683461
>redneck measures the worth of any man by how much of a physical threat he is
>overweight filth clings to gun to pretend like his fat gelled grease body is a threat
>"muh... muh gunz"
>trembles at the thought of his tactical AK-9000 with under barrel grenade launcher and adjustable insulin dispenser being taken by the big bad liberals
>backs republicans on grounds of "real men work for what they have" for the same illusion of power their precious rifle gives them

>>732683461
Because the left always says they are gonna make it better but they make it worse at the end , also the man things about more than just himself like average lefty does.

>>732685333
>>732683461

Most liberals think its the trailer park trash that needs the government programs but its mainly just the blacks. You need to be making just about no money or be a single mother to get that shit.

I dont think section 8 would even pay for a trailer.

The people like those in ops pic need non-skilled blue collar jobs that pay a decent wage and thats what the republicucks keep promising even though they could never deliver.

That said, the trailer fucks should be voting dem because blue collar is going away and the programs the blacks are getting will eventually make it up to them. However, god and guns mean they could never.

>>732695412
His work got boght out and they discharged every worker he was there for 40 years then he got fuckd on his 401k etc..

>>732692642
Agreed

>>732696716
Sucks for him. The nature of life is that not everybody gets to be a winner.

>>732696780
Yup got to save a hundred since 14 so ill be set eventually

>>732683461

because they're so uneducated, and emotionally damamged they can't actually see past the blantaly obvious propaganda and nationalism used to recruit their votes.

>>732696886
A month * oops

>>732683461
Misinformation.

>>732696956
Instead of simply saving you should be investing that money so it goes to work for you instead of sitting around losing value due to inflation.

>>732689831

>Working a government job is welfare.
>Providing a service that keeps society functioning should be frowned upon.

Go ask Somalia how they're doing, I hear life is magical without any civil service infrastructure in place. Super efficient to not have bureaucrats around amirite?

Kek.

>>732697056
>Government
>Providing a service that keeps society functioning

o I am havin a laff

>>732697046
Iam a drop out half blind retard so not sure about that lol never hade issues so far besides allmost getting a few chicks preggers

>>732683461
You assume ladling benefits on him has anything to do with the rest of the bullshit that comes along with it from the left.

Is a human just something to be bought out?

>>732697056
>Working a government job is welfare.
Depends on the government job. When you join the military you get access to excellent benefits for not very much effort. Plus you get to spend the rest of your life acting smug telling people lies like you protected American freedom so you can get a 10% military discount.

obamacare isnt free fucking idiot

>>732683461

>Democrats put all that shit in place
>Somehow is explained as "our interests"

Fuck off liberal shill

>>732683770

>Ultra wealth

Yah the Democrats don't have money. They only wasted a billion dollars trying to get Hillary elected and lost.

>>732697518
I thoght they get checks if they honorable leav ?

>>732697178

K

Lets abolish the police force and see how you like being raped by dindus.

No more department of transportation. You'll need to pay out the ass to maintain roads around your town, or learn to repair them yourself.

Courts are gone. Any disputes with your neighbors are now to be settled via hand to hand combat.

No park rangers to keep public natural areas clean. Every time you go fishing you'll need to wade through a debris field of litter left by people with no regard for nature.

Oh, and since we have no military some other country can just sweep in and take our land.

Sounds great!

>>732698019
Lands that outlaw wealth tend to do very poorly for the average person. Except for those at the top who outlawed it, of course.

>>732685040
>>732685129
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