there are people who think this is wrong

Don't think it's wrong, just pretty pointless and wasteful.

>>732245018
/thread

You keep saying you can't afford basic things, so there's no way you can afford a wall. Nobody even crosses at the border, they use planes.

Its really just a waste of money. Most illegal immigrants are here abusing work visas. Or they just fly here and never leave.

>>732245280

This fucking meme.

What is tax inflation on imported goods

>>732244924
I don't just think it's wrong, I think it's plain retarded. Immigrants don't run across the fucking border, they come to the US legally and simply don't leave.

Shit like this didn't even work in Berlin, and that wall was far, far better guarded than this monument for stupidity.

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It's something to entertain the world. For people who are bored af

>>732244924
yea i voted trump and support him fully, but even i know the wall is kind of pointless. i woudlve gone for something more unpleasant for those who crossed over, but he did get the rates lowered almost completely. if anything id just have more border guards and if they ever ran into and illegal just take all of their shit and tell them to walk back. eventually they'll die

Where do we build this monstrosity?

On our side, displacing home owners along the border, giving land and water to Mexico?
On the Mexican side, annexing land from them, breaking international law as we essentially declare war on Mexico?

>>732245416
It's not free money, obviously. Like I said, you have basic things that should be higher priority. If immigration is all you care about you could even put the money into your immigration services, because they are third world tier right now.

>>732246055
A good portion of the border is the Rio Grande River. Do we build the wall on our side and give the river to Mexico?

>>732245920
protip - you don't support him fully unless you support all the things.

Its pointless becausw people will still cross and wasteful because money could be used somewhere else and its a huge enviromental problem to put a big fucking wall across a fucking continent

>>732245280
>He fell for Facebook videos as fact

>>732245920
There are FIFTEEN THOUSAND ICE agents. Literally thousands of people guard the border already. It's not fucking enough.

Wall now.

>>732245669
If the first reply wasn't /thread, then this is.

/thread

>>732247266
truth painful truth

>>732245018
this

>>732245669
>Shit like this didn't even work in Berlin
Not saying the trump wall isn't pointless because it is, but the Berlin wall was pretty effective

>>732246398
Trump is not the reason for a wall.
a secure border started with the secure fence act of 2006.
proposals for a concrete wall on the border go back to when representative steve king spoke on his wall design to congress in 2007.
Trump may not get full credit when the wall is built because ted cruz is funding it with the el chapo act

>>732246659
This

>>732245018
It's also pointless to lock your door when a good kick can blow it open.

It's not wrong. It's a waste of tax-payer money.

>Mexico will never pay for the wall and even when Trump had a meeting with the president of Mexico, he didn't have the balls to bring it up
>Immigration is at a near all time low according to the border patrol
>Only a fraction of illegal immigrants are coming in through the border, most are coming in and staying via expired visas
>There's no logical plan to pay for the wall because Trump's now finally realizing that Mexico won't pay for it and he has no idea what a trade tariff is
>No one has any concrete or solid design for the wall yet, only concepts

Illegal immigration is a problem but it's not nearly as bad as Donald Jones wants you to think it is. He needs to remove his Breitbart and Infowars bookmarks and get a fucking grip on reality.

>>732247871
>a good kick
Yeah, you watch too many movies. Door hinges are pretty fucking strong. Police don't "kick open" doors when they need to breath, they use a 2-3 man battering ram.

>>732247562
This. Berlin Wall was probably the most effective wall ever built. Very few made it through.

>>732247974
Huh? I've kicked down a few doors. Most doors are pretty weak.

>>732247930
Hey Shareblue, they're still paying you? Why can't you get over it? Hillary fucking lost. Get over it already holy fuck.

>>732247124
>we have a lot of people protecting the border
>its not enough
>clearly the best course of action is to build a pointless wall
Flawless logic

>>732248100
and because hillary lost, we need to shut up and do nothing when the president is acting like a fucking nigger?

>>732248009

well it separated two of the world's largest nuclear superpowers capable of ending the earth within a matter of hours; not the burgers from the beaners

>>732248100
Don't you morons have a containment board?

Honestly, I cannot fathom any marketing company paying people to post on 4chan. What a stupid waste of money. Most threads get around 20-50 unique posters.

Also, if there's people paying to shitpost here, where the fuck do I sign up? I'm already spending way too much time here for free as is.

>>732248366
>What a stupid waste of money
Yeah, rich people have a concept of wasting money... /s

>>732244924
not me

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>be mexican
>take a visa
>stay in usa

Useless. Less than 5% of illegal cross the border

>>732248435
Trump doesn't give a shit about illegals. He has his intelligent supporters fooled.

He only wants the wall so he can point to it and say that he built it. It's all an ego thing. He just wants to put his name on yet another failure.

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>>732244924
>

>>732248429
Nobody gives a kek

Just set up pillboxes every half mile and let rednecks blow ammo at illegals as they try and run up.

Everyone wins

>>732244924
Is this game on Steam?

>>732248092

They're weak because most people won't spend extra money to defend against something unlikely to ever happen.

Historically no wall has ever done any substantial good. They all fail eventual while producing ill will in people's eyes.

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>>732244924
Oh shut the fuck up you armchair philosophers!
We should build it to m,ake it easier to screen the cunts at the airports...where they will never return because we'll merely grind them up as fertilizer for the farms.

>>732248092
Do you live in niggerville where hinges are made out of plastic or something? Doors are not easy to kick down.

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>>732248553
You dropped this....

>>732249355
Exterior doors are strong but you are really breaking the frame not the door. Most interior doors are hollow core and are real easy to kick in. I've kicked down one heavy exterior door in flip flops... It easier then you'd think unless someone takes the time to reinforce it.

>>732244924
I'm actually curious to see how this is going to play out. To be honest the US really isn't that good of a country to live in, especially if you're paying taxes. A low-income immigrant will soon get screwed over by every major corporation out to steal the last dime to his name.

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>>732244924
RedSkins maybe build up to get out immigration from EU between '400 and '800

>>732244924
>there are people who think this will solve anything

>>732248553
this is exactly right
>>732249535
you're a fucking dumbass

>>732248435
what the fuck is going on in this image

>>732245280
Lol plenty of people cross the boarder

>>732248009
yes, because anyone trying to cross was murdered, and it was also much smaller than trump's proposed wall

As a mexican, I don't think it's wrong at all.
If I ever want to cross the border on, let's say, vacation or to visit family, I can always do the necessary paperwork a couple of months before the date I want to be there.
It saddens me tho, the fact that such a thing has to be built in order to stop criminal scum and fags who want a better life "the easy way"

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>>732245018
Yes, better we lay a minefield and declare an exclusion zone. Add a dozen of roving patrols with orders of shoot to kill and the illegal crossings will slow to a trickle.

Now we just need some common fucking sense to implement these obvious measures.

>>732244924
We are the only country in the entire world without a border. Its actually fucking retarded

>>732245669
We better track down people who overstay their visas and deport them ASAP.

Local and state cops could help out a great deal with this - I'm sure they'll cooperate in places like California and New York.

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>>732244924
Of course there are people who think its wrong.

They're called Mexicans and white genocide supporters (liberals).

>pict VERY related

>>732248622
Good luck taking tonnes of drugs with you on the plane.

>>732249535

>Being this ignorant about corporate America and underestimating the power of ego

>>732244924
Wasting money on a useless picket fence is wrong.

The Great Wall of China helped with keeping Mongolians out. Mongolians kind of sounds like Mexicans. So it should work

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>>732244924
It's a viable project and after completion you only need to do maintenance and minor repair jobs. It will pay itself back in the long run too, so from the economic standpoint I see no problem.

>>732244924
pretty good way to build a wall if you ask me
fully qualified structural engineeer here.

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>>732253761
To validate my point, it will most definitely be cheaper to guard a wall than hunt every border-jumper from inside the country.

>>732244924
I love it, too bad this one is just an artists rendering. Legitimately how it would be and will be done.

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>>732245018
Well I don't know if I would call it pointless, we would have to actually try it and see.

What annoys me the most is the usual talking points of "it MIGHT be this" or "it COULD do that". Things like this you don't fucking know what will happen, as for it being wasteful I have this handy little graph here with a rough estimate of our annual expenditure.

The wall is $20B max out of the 3.6 trillion we spend annually and will take more than one year to finish. In addition to creating jobs and most of that money going back into our own economy through purchasing American made materials and labor, I don't see what's wasteful about it.

If somebody can explain specifically why I'm all ears, otherwise this pretty much sinks the "it's too much money" argument. It is actually pretty cheap.

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>>732244924

Build it higher and deeper!

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>>732250587
>>732253496
Yeah you know so much from that basement at your grandma's house. shut your gob cunt.

>>732247659
>ted cruz is funding it with the el chapo act
no hes not, lol he just proposed the idea.

>>732253929
Called prestressed concrete panels. Big box stores, warehouses, prisons and yes, walls. I say build and where the wall is not finished or still penetrable put trained capture teams in place who have complete authority to hustle them back to the nearest legal border crossing and march them off the bus. Drug smugglers go straight to prison awaiting trial.

>>732249318
this is so far from the truth, fuck people are stupid. Why is it so common now a days for people to report false shit just cuz it fits their ideology. ill give you one example out of like, 5. Israel-West Bank, after it was put up, successful terror attacks in the entire jewish state dropped by 90%

if it were up to me we would shoot on sight

>>732254191

There's no way it'll only cost 20B. That's a low estimate. It'll more likely cost somewhere around 25B, and that's just for the building of it. Upkeep, maintenance, and personnel will add additional billions.

Then there's the matter of the land. It can't be built on the actual border, since the Rio Grande forms most of it. Mexico won't give the US land to build it, so the US will have to take land from US landowners through eminent domain; a process that will cost billions and take years.

Then there's the ecological impact. A wall would disrupt thousands of species migration routes, and so would be contested by every animal activist agency in the US.

Then there's the fact that only a small fraction actually come over the border fence. The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens come in on legitimate visas and just overstay. The wall does absolutely nothing to stop 95% of aliens.

Finally, there's the wall effectiveness. If you build a twenty foot wall, illegal immigrants will just use twenty one foot ladders. There's no way to make it high enough to actually keep anyone out.

>>732244924
No se si es intelligente o nomas huevon.

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>>732244924
is useless for me

>>732255181
This is the most intelligent post I've seen on /b/ in a long time.

Props, anon.

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>>732255609
another way

>>732254409

>This is a Trump supporter's argument

>>732255012
Temporarily,
Now the Israelis are committing a form of ethnic cleansing by slow means.

And it has isolated Israel in the international community. Now only the U.S. still stands by Israel.

>>732255729
Which is why it will be one of the most ignored posts on /b/.

IME, the more intelligent the post the more it is either trolled or ignored.

test

>>732255729

Thank /b/ro.

>>732255974
I'm testing your mother

>>732255181
The worst part is trump already knows all this, only his stupid supporters don't. The wall was never intended to be a solution to anything, just a rallying point to get people hyped up.

>>732247871
Apples to oranges there much?

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>>732255181
You're using the maximum estimate of $25B when the minimum estimate was $8-12B. Realistically we don't know what it will cost. As for the Rio Grand and other large geographic areas I'm sure it's already been thought of that we would use those areas as a natural border which actually proves the point that if we were to do that not only would the ecology stay in tact, but we would not require a wall built in that area cutting down on funding.

As for the US property I don't know how it will be close to the larger cities but I would be hard pressed to believe most of the land on the border isn't BLM land, I want to see which areas specifically you're talking about, because most of it is desert and not privately owned.

With regards to 95% of illegals coming over from boat or plane I would like to see your statistics on that one. This is a solution for our Mexico border, which while I agree it might not be the best solution, it's better than sitting idly by with our thumbs up our ass just saying "come on in, we have sanctuary cities where you can freely break our laws and our citizens are stupid enough to defend you for it".

Most of your arguments are easily refuted by these facts, do you think that these people are capable of carrying 21 foot ladders through the fucking desert when they can't even buy the proper supplies to get here in the first place? You whine about what COULD happen and are content to just sit by while this happens not offering any solutions but just poking holes at other ideas.

People like you are in fact the reason why the wall is being built. Everybody is too concerned with what we CAN'T do, and it's led to Trump getting in office because everybody is sick of sitting on our ass.

>>732255729
>>732255968

Most of the arguments are the exact same arguments you always see presented here which when examined with literally any critical thinking skills are logically inconsistent. You only think so because that post confirms your biases. Obviously there are problems with the wall but realistically when you get down to it what did that post solve? What was the point?

The irony is most of you didn't acknowledge my original post but then claim "le this post will be ignored cause i think its smrt xdddd". None of you probably even bothered to look at the graph. Assuming the wall is the estimate that anon claimed at $25B which by the way is the maximum possible estimate (He blatantly cherry picks) but $25B doesn't even scratch our annual expenditure and that's assuming it will all be spent and over in one year.

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>>732256284
>>732256686

Furthermore on top of all this I spent literally 10 seconds on google to find that 8-12 million illegal immigrants are estimated to live in the united states (http://www.cairco.org/issues/how-many-illegal-aliens-reside-united-states)

This anon has claimed that 95% of the illegal immigrants do not come from the US-Mexico border which is patently false. (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/02/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/) "There were 11.7 million immigrants from Mexico living in the U.S. in 2014, and about half of them were in the country illegally, according to Pew Research Center estimates. Mexico is the country’s largest source of immigrants, making up 28% of all U.S. immigrants."

This anon is blatantly lying to your faces and you fall flat on your face for the sophistry. Now go on, ignore these facts like you claim his will be ignored. What a joke

>>732254191
> In addition to creating jobs and most of that money going back into our own economy through purchasing American made materials and labor

Are you aware that most companies trying to invest on the wall are foreign?
Lafarge Holcim is one of the major bidders for the project, specifically the Holcim Apasco branch, guess where that branch is based? Mexico, meaning that billions of dollars of taxpayers money are coming down to Mexico if your government goes with that.

I'm not mad at the fact that you guys want the continent divided, I'm sad that President Trump is taking you all out for a ride in stupid mountain.

http://eleconomista.com.mx/industria-global/2017/03/02/lafargeholcim-espera-ganar-mas-muro-trump

>>732245018
We could save money on concrete if we built machinegun nests instead.

>>732244924
It's useless, except for proving bigotry that is.
More than wrong is also just a promise and an unnecessary waste of money... For americans, obviously.

>>732257211
How about a link to something in English, or would being able to read what it's saying undermine your argument? What do you mean by companies TRYING to invest in the wall are foreign? Invest in what metric, funding? The company you're speaking of has multiple branches internationally and is based in Switzerland. On top of this they only manufacture the concrete used to build the wall.

Did they actually get the bid? Because I get the feeling that you're talking about something that MAY happen but hasn't actually happened yet. Not only this but you're assuming that anybody gives a shit who's bidding on the project, we're buying concrete from them, it isn't as if they're building the wall itself.

So you've effectively given us information on concrete some company WANTS to sell to us that's based in Mexico. Explain to me why I'm supposed to care if we buy something from a Mexico based Swiss manufacturer, this means nothing.

>>732257695
>not considering the money a wall would save
brainlet detected

>>732257076

>This anon has claimed that 95% of the illegal immigrants do not come from the US-Mexico border which is patently false.

That was never the claim. The claim was that most don't come over the border, but overstay visas.

>>732257860

>>732255181

"The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens come in on legitimate visas and just overstay. The wall does absolutely nothing to stop 95% of aliens."

My mistake, now if you could actually refute the other numerous points I just made that'd be swell.

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>>732245920
>but he did get the rates lowered almost completely.
???
Is he taking credit for Obama's accomplishments again?
Obama deported more illegals than any president in history (and NO they didn't just change the definition).
And ICE is still working under the Obama budget.
AND the stopgap budget bill was nothing like Trump's proposed budget.
So aside form deporting a bunch of registered illegals when they showed up for voluntary check-ins, what has Trump done?

>>732257860
>>732258070
Oh I forgot but I'm sure you already read it from my posts. 28% estimated illegals come from the US-Mexico border in which case while the majority do simply overstay their welcome, that's nearly a third of all illegal immigrants coming from one area. In addition to this I would rather fix illegal immigrant issues from poverty stricken countries where it's obvious they will be bringing significant increases in crime first, and fix the other illegal immigration problems second.

The claim was that a wall would not stop 95% of illegals. I want you to explain why, just saying "well they'll just find some way to get around the wall" (IE the stupid overused le 21 foot ladder meme) is not an argument, you can apply this reasoning to any situation.

Why bother to hunt down a rapist? After all, some people can just blindfold their victim and get away with it. Most of the time they use condoms I assume, why even bother doing anything about it?

>>732258367
>Obama deported more illegals than any president in history

And if Trump lasts two terms he will likely deport more than Obama. Doesn't this prove the point for the wall though? I mean if our most recent president has deported more illegals in the entire history of the US and he was also one of the most left leaning, that seems to indicate a serious problem with illegals to me.

But don't let that fly in the face of your shitposting narrative, by all means continue

>>732252489
>We are the only country in the entire world without a border.
Google "eu freedom of movement".
...and oh yeah, most of the world's borders are far less guarded than the US/Mexican border.

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>>732258751
Yea that's been working out really well for them too, hasn't it? I don't know about you but if there's one thing that comes to mind when I think "Germany, Sweden, France" it's how great their immigration policies are and how low their crime rate is

>>732258751
It's almost like if you border other rich first world countries with half decent people you won't need to worry about border control.

Oh wait, that's been changing thanks to you guessed it! Muslim terrorism, the Netherlands are considering putting up a wall next to Sweden now by the way thanks to their newfound shitskin problems.

Funny how your Utopian ideals only work as long as everyone around you is assumed to be a decent person, literally all it took to crumble these countries are a handful of insane Muslims and liberals sitting on the sidelines creating sophistry to trick the masses not unlike yourself.

Congratulations on being the reason why these things happen by ignoring the obvious truths of the world from your comfy room in the suburbs, the fall of western society won't come from Muslims, or the Illegal immigrants I despise so much. These are direct consequences of your indirect attitude and unwillingness to critically examine your own ideals.

>>732258751
>Google "eu freedom of movement".
Remind me how that isn't helping rapefugees or criminals.

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>>732258674
>And if Trump lasts two terms he will likely deport more than Obama.
Probably not.
DHS is reporting that the number of illegals in the country has been dropping for years.

>>732258674
>and he was also one of the most left leaning
Wow, no.
Plenty of people complain he's a neocon. His foreign policy was like getting two more terms of Bush.
His immigration policy wasn't liberal.
And even Obamacare is a remarkably conservative piece of legislation.
It's America's best chance for avoiding real socialized medicine.
It's a great boon for the healthcare industry, and it ensures that even the working poor (and their small-business employers) have to help pay for health care in America instead of just going to the emergency room or relying on a spouse that works for a fortune-500 company to cover the family health care.
Both Mitt Romney and Ronald Reagan had similar plans, and if Obama wasn't a black democrat, Paul Ryan would fight tooth and nail to defend the ACA.

Besides, your logic is flawed:
>Obama's a leftie.
>But he was tough on immigration for 8 years.
>Illegals must therefore be a yuge problem.
That's like saying chemtrails are real because even the EPA (a government agency) is fighting pollution.

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>>732258945
>>732259372
>>732259477
Now that you've moved the goalposts, can we agree that this retard:
>>732252489
>We are the only country in the entire world without a border.
...was wrong?

>>732259372
>the Netherlands are considering putting up a wall next to Sweden
the Netherlands don't border Sweden
their territorial waters don't even border each other

>>732259641
>DHS is reporting that the number of illegals in the country has been dropping for years
[Citation needed]

I did fuck up by calling Obama a lefty though, but this changed no arguments beyond that.

>>732259870
Whoops, meant Norway.

>>732259775
Well I'm not that anon, but obviously we do have a border. You know it amazes me how you people don't have any arguments so what you do instead is nitpick one small typo or error in the vast sea of things that completely BTFO your narrative.

Not talking about you specifically anon, but I mean in general. Most of the replies are just shitposting about how I called Obama a lefty or trying to associate my posts with this one post over there in the corner somewhere.

>>732244924
It serves no purpose in fact. There is already a well established border. There are fences, guards, and air patrols.

This is self serving to his friends who will/got the contract to build this piece of shit wall. It's redundant.

In fact, it will have no more effect than the current walls/border measures have.

This is a SOCIAL problem that you cannot fix with walls. People will STILL find a way to come into the country and stay illegally. The wall will change nothing, and it cannot change anything. Only stupid, short sighted people will nod in agreement as it is erected while their tax dollars are pissed away to engorge one of trumps friends.

>>732244924
No there are people that realise the cost to build, maintain and man this is so expensive your tax's would have to be reallocated from essential public spending OR doubled in order to make it possible.

>>732260476
>>732260373


>>732254191
>>732256284
>>732257076
>>732257211

Obviously the wall has it's flaws, that being said I want to know what you anon's think the best solution is. We all can agree that illegals need to GTFO but the question is how? The wall wouldn't be some overtly expensive money pit like the left wants you to believe, but it also isn't the best solution like the right would like it to be.

So my question is what is the most effective method of controlling illegal immigration? as it stands the most violent and criminal illegals come from mexico which makes up 28% of all illegal immigration. If you have grievances that's fine, but suggest a better solution while you do it.

>>732245018
well Israel did it and it's keeping all the towelheads out of their country so I think it's a good idea.

In the simplistic childish minds of trumptards, a wall is all it takes to keep 99.9% of undesirables out.

I say undesirables, because it's not just illegal immigrants for whom they want the wall. As such, the wall is a metaphore for whatever measures serves to keep out undesirables - in their opinion.

These undesirables serve to feed into conservatives fears and hatreds. Conservatives live in a mental construct world where they are surrounded by anarchy, lawlessness, terrorism, brutal violence all around them, all threatening to tighten around their lives and destroy them at any moment.

Thus, trumptards already live with walls of their own imaginations. They merely want their darkest fears realized; they want reality to match their paranoid delusions. And they're willing to spend any amount of your money to get it.

>>732249355
You don't kick at the hinges. You kick in the general area of the knob/handle or lock.

>>732244924
Donald Trump, for one. He's not building a wall, he's building a fence. Gave a press briefing about it, and got called out on live TV by Breitbart. He caved less than six months in. It's beyond pathetic.

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>>732261092
>waaaaaaa everyone who disagrees with me is a drumpftard time to over-analyze and insert metaphors to perpetuate my own insecurity
>they don't actually care about UNDOCUMENTED CITIZENS like i do in fact they call them illegal ppl cant be illegal!!!!!

i wish god was real so he could wipe us all off the face of the earth

>>732255012
>Israel continues to terrorize Palestinian state
Seems like terrorism in the region is still strong

>>732261428
Virtual machine-using CTR shill detected.
I eagerly await the
>sure kid
And
>not an argument

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>>732261643

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>>732261496
>That's a lot of butthurt, anon.

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>>732258367

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>>732244924
kinda works here

>>732244924
It's a waste of money, is what it is.
Having a huge wall won't stop illegals, they'll find a way. Use all that money and use it on other measures, like increased man power or drones or literally anything other than a primitive wall.

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>>732262098
When I see that people as stupid as you exist and willingly deny reality I can't help but be slightly upset.

It's not uncommon either, you're one of millions. Millions of people, too fucking retarded to think for themselves. "What did this blog say, what did that review site say? tl:dr: xddddddd time to go watch cnn and see how many scoops of ice scream le drumpf ate!"

That's a real article by the way.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magazine-ice-cream/index.html

>>732262175
He wasn't worth much until after his father died, and he inherited it all.
Wonder why he was worth the same for so many years, if he truly was smart, he'd be richer, not the same.

>>732244924
> there are people who think it is feasible to build even half of the wall and that what little will be built will change anything

>>732244924
Because it is wrong. I don't want to be forced to sell my land so I can have my backyard and it's beautiful view of the Rio Grande replaced with a big ugly concrete wall.

>>732244924
there r ppl who think this can be built

If you can prove that most illegal immigrants come from border crossing, sure. Build the wall.

...but you can't, as most illegals are visa hoppers who fly in and stay. I agree that we need a much better immigration system, but this isn't it

>>732258367
>Obama deported more illegals than any president in history
>Once Trump took office, deportation is up 70%
My dude, it's only a matter of time

>>732244924
kinda pointless when there's already a fence and people just dig tunnels and fly over

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>>732262697
the author thinks he makes fun of those, who doubt Trump. They say "if u buy the premise, u buy the story". The premise is "son, ill borrow u a million dollars. During the times of money having more buying power.". There r ppl, whod fuck it up, but all u need to do is put it in an account and get 1000$ every month - free. Put it in some stock and ull get the return. I mean HE GOT A MILLION $ FOR FREE TO START OFF. HOW MUCH DID U GET?

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>>732262677
>Communist news network
Now show us something not massively biased.

>>732260900
Regardless of how people feel, it needs to be punishable by law to harbor illegal immigrants.

>>732245280
"They use planes"
Kek

>>732262697
>The 300+ businesses he had all broke even or were in the negatives
>Inheriting over 6 billion dollars
Son that would make his dad richer than bill gates.

You people who want to ban illegal immigrants don't know what you want.

Illegal immigrants are modern slaves. Take them away and the modern slave owners are just going to find a new group of slaves. Those slaves might be you, or your children, or someone else. But one thing is absolutely guaranteed - they WILL find new slaves.

And you will be right back where you started.
Except then, you might be the one enslaved.

>>732260900
Pro-tip: https://www.ice.gov/

They are tasked with this job. DHS is tasked with patrolling the border. Border patrol is also tasked with that.

Do you have any idea how many agencies are responsible for this "problem?"

I'll tell you why the problem exists. Because the people who run things WANT the problem to exist. There is no way anyone they don't want to be in the country will be in the country.

Also, a wall covering thousands of miles is obscenely expensive. Ie. It's in the hundreds of billions of dollars on 10 year timelines with over budgets galore.

>>732245018
A better investment would be trying to make cities that are half in Mexico and half in America.

Also, to clear up some things. The reason there is illegal immigration is because the businesses that employ illegals are flourishing. And i'd wager that people in high places are profiting directly from this labor.

Ie. A steady stream of illegals is good for business. It is NOT, however, good for tax payers who end up footing the bill for the social services they end up consuming. There is SOME side benefit, however, in the lower cost of goods overall.

Again, this "problem" is only one that people who don't pay attention stir up during elections to rile up the racists closer to the border who cant' stand them.

Bottom line is, it's not a problem for which the government does not already have several solutions. I mean do you really think the government spends 600 billion dollars a year on the military but it leaves the back door open to mexico like a bunch of tards? LOL!

Concrete is stupid. Use rammed earth like the wall of china. That is readily available and sturdy.

>>732260900
Nice dubs
I thought we should give citizenship to the illegals here now with no criminal records and deport all the rest and future ones. As a country we are too good at forcing people to assimilate and the retarded sanctuary cities engrain the American identity on the illegals. We might as well give them citizenship to nationalize them against future illegals. Also because they are already stakes in their jobs and communities. Might be a little biased cuz im a beaner but thats what i think.