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Hey /b/ what's worse a Muslim or a Jew?

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Hey /b/ what's worse a Muslim or a Jew?
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jew
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Jew.

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A kike. If it weren't for them we wouldn't be worrying about muslims.
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>>732232785
educate me please

i am ignorant of this truth
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>>732232169
How is one rotting hunk of flesh better than another? We're all niggers
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>>732232919
>i am ignorant

welp
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>>732232919
Anything wrong in today's world, any problem whatsoever, has a kike at its source.
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>>732233146
I hear you. If I start saying this to people, will liberals punch me like they do to Richard Spencer? Why do they think it's okay to do this?
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>>732233362
cos you're an asshat, and everyone loves watching an asshat get punched.
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>>732233146
Probably not considering liberals are so pro Muslim nowadays
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>>732232169
OMG you really need to seek help.
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>>732232169
i don't particularly like kikes, but i'd choose a hooknose over a sandmonkey anytime. there are a few good jews and they generally don't misbehave publicly.
>inb4 shill
>inb4 goyim
>inb4 zionism
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>>732234237
jews are sandmonkeys tho
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>>732234372
>its proven to not be the same guy
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>>732234372
sandpeople or not, as long as it's not infected with islam. jews can fuck off back to israel and stay there
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>>732234549
>citation
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Is this even a question?

Jews/Zionists.
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>>732234549
>Implying pol fags havent surpassed and abolished such ridiculous concepts as proof or logic already
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>publicly
That's the thing
>Israel supports America!
>We're pro Western ideals!
>We would never stab you in the back!

They may seem docile in public but like Muslims, it's in their doctrine to fuck the gentiles
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A Christian
Muslims and Jews are straight up foreigners fucking with white civilization
Christian's are our own people and they murdered and forced conversion on everyone, and I have no sympathy for traitors
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>>732233146
For a moment, I read kike as cuck.
Your statement is accurate with either.
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There are names like christian, or christiana. And also muslima, sulmana. Is there also a name like jewsua, jewana or any jew name similar?
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>>732232169
coon and a dune coon together
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>>732234893
its funny because if not for Jews Christianity woudn't exist
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Christians are the worst
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>>732235103
/end of discussion
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kike
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>>732235103
Christians, Jews, and even Muslims are all part of the same religious tree. Its called abrahamic religion.
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>>732235103
jews are the descendants of cain
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Jews, an inferior race of people that banded together to create the oppressive broken society we have today.
Long ago they were just killed on sight for being gross little runts, they had to create society to prevent being killed. Guess who's on top and who's on the bottom of our society? Jews then alpha males
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>>732232169

Is water more wet from a lake or a river?

Abrahamic religions > All other human problems
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>>732234952
No. Just constant victim complex.
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>>732232785
This.
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Christians, Muslims, and Jews are equally acceptably bad and good. They are all part of the Abrahamic religion.
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>>732233501
> asshat
I want Reddit to fucking leave and die
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>>732232785
Fucking Soros. It's okay. The white flame shall burn through them.
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>>732234760
>what is a google
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>>732234952
Joshua, I don't know if they still name kids Judas though.
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>>732236261
>I like to say shit without providing any sort of information, and then I tell people to research my comments

Fuck you pleb. Burden of proof is on your faggot ass for making claims.
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>>732235338
>Chink and designated shitting streets religions are fine
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>>732232169

Neo-nazis. Real subhumans.
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Muslim.
A Jew will know a good deal and if you and them both profit, it's all good.
A Muslim just wants to kill everyone who isn't Muslim and destroy everything that isn't Islam. Media will tell you otherwise but it's the truth, I've read the Koran, Islam so can't exist with other religions.
ISIS is the true face Islam, Muslims know this and are afraid the world will realise it too. Everything Isis has done, is allowed in the Koran. Rape, killing, pillaging, destroying cultural monuments of other cultures - all sanctioned and allowed in the Koran, even encouraged.
When will the world realise, Islam is a plague and we need to get rid of that trash?
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>>732232169
Niggers worse than anyone
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>>732234372

>lol

Saved for future use to troll /pol/.
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>>732236465
Tell me more about how atheists are nice, rational and patient people, and how they aren't just as in-your-face annoying as fucking vegans or religious fanatics
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>>732236427
Not samefag but i literally googled shlomo ettinger and was able to find that the pic is false.

Islamic rage boy =/= shlomo. Stop defending mudslimes
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>>732236689
Actually pro-christianity and western civilization here.
Your reply works for the post I replied to.
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>>732236572
>When will the world realise, Islam is a plague and we need to get rid of that trash?

because you're a moron and no-one will ever care about anything you say
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>>732232169
>dont meddle in iran
>foe
To be fair meddling in the middle east and the gulf in the first place is what made people there go crazy.

You get your home carpet bombed for three decades and you'll fly a plane into a building
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>>732236572
>read the koran
So where is that part about raping and destroying cultural monuments?
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>>732232169
You can make treaties with muslims and they would uphold it (if they made any). But jews will act like your friens and then outjew you when you don't expect it
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They are both the same.
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>>732237426
This. People complain they're killing our military, well fuck, we're over there. GTFO and our people will stop getting killed.
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>>732232919
Kikes fucked up middle east to the point where muslims became religious fanatics and started bombing and immigrating to the western world.
Dont let their apperance fool you. They might look like normal ppl but they are fucking monsters inside. Muslims on the other hand are not bad ppl... just a little savage.
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>>732237627
Pretty sure they have idolatry laws in there.
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>>732236572
You do realize every country or religion has waged wars right? You act like only muslims kill people. Everybody kills everybody that's just the way humans are.
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>>732233595
The Frankfurt school was responsible for modern liberals, so it's still Jewish tricks in the end.
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>>732236606
>trolling /pol/ with it's own creation
how new are you
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>>732237950
Mohammed himself said that any person is allowed to freely practice his religion whatever it is, even in a muslim country

“Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, or curtails their rights, or burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.”

I hate to be that bible thumping faggit but it really comes to where i need to pull quotes out

Dont listen to idiots who make shit up out of context
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The faggot asking, chances are you are equally if not as worse as one
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>>732238170

>implying /pol/ is only one branch of tinfoil hat
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>>732232169
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If the muslims and jews get sick of the nazis and tag team you guys are so fucked
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>>732237855
Why aren't savages also bad ppl?
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>>732238204
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
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>>732238746
How many times do I have to repeat, those verses refer to war times

No civilians are harmed, which is a damn site better than what most militaries today do
Just look at Japan to the Chinese?

Or Americans in Vietnam?
How the hell do you claim they act at a better standard with the shit that happened in nanjing?

Read the actual verses in the pages they appear in, rather than picking verses out of their context
https://quran.com/
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>>732232169

The kind of person who makes shit comics like that and genuinely considers it 'political satire'.
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>>732234952
I actually know someone with the first name "jew"
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>>732238204
>burdens them with more than they can bear
How do we determine how much someone can bear? Does the holy book say anything about that?

>takes anything from them against their free will
What if I'm not willing to give up something via my free will but a majority of others are? Am I forced to give up stuff anyways even tho it's against my free will?
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>>732239056
According to actual law, muslims are not allowed to harm anyone unless they are an armed combatant on a field, anyone who stops fighting is spared

It's not the faiths fault that the rules dont get followed, or they get twisted and perverted by the minority of lunatics ffs
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>>732239168
Every religion has their lunatics. Look those Westboro morons. You can't look at them and say "all Christians are like this".
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>>732239119
No you are not forced to give stuff up, the text is clear
You dont have to give your anything up to anyone
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>>732239056
>Ignoring the comments for every single verse
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>>732239268
This

Hitler used religion as part of a doctrine regarding there being a superior being
Doesnt mean christians killed the 11 million people in the holocaust, but someone twisted religion to give themselves the authority to do just that, and thats whats happening now
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>>732239268
How many people have the Westboro's killed?
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>>732239370
>Hitler used religion
Oh come on, it is common knowledge that Hitler wasn't religious, but had to give it lip service for appearances and morale sake.
The Nazis were going to remove religion from the third reich and you should know that.
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>>732239331
>comments
Dude im telling you to read each verse along with the rest of the chapter that comes with it

Youre like a person who walked into the middle of the film and understood it incorrectly because you didnt finish more than a scene before leaving and doing the same with 12 other films

Then when someone corrects a misunderstanding you say they are wrong
Try reading the book, start to finish, before going to "im right.com" and pulling out of context stats
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>>732239504
Youve proven my point
He didnt give a shit about the religion he was wiping his ass with, he was using it to further a political agenda
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>>732239277
Nice job answering part of the question.

It may say "takes anything from them against their free will" but it is not clear what free will is or what the difference between someones "free will" and coercion. I.e. I put a gun to your head and tell you: you either accept this or die. While you'll most likely state that that situation is obviously not allowing voluntary choice of the matter, the individual still has to voluntarily choose to comply or not; hence it would be an act of free will, tho it would be a forced act, the individual is still choosing to abide by the demands or face an undesirable circumstance.
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>>732238000
Islam positions itself as a modern religion. Wars over territory, lands, and whatever bullshit is what barbarians did. If it were a real progressive religion, peacefull talks, compromise etc would be the preferred way to resolve matters.
Also, for once, can I hear someone defend Islam without bringing the barbarianism of older days into the argument? Every time, the argument is 'religion X was cruel and barbaric so Islam is allowed to be cruel and barbaric as well'. Excuse me but thats not an argument, it's a pathetic excuse.
Lies, forced conversion and breeding like rats is the only reason Islam got to this stage.
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>>732239268
>>732239370
Kek Are you literally autistic? I think you are.
Westboro church doesn't behead people and wage war on the entire western world and hitler was christianity as a justification of his actions(not acting on the will of the Bible) nowhere in the Bible does it say to commit mass genocide. You can easily find quotes all throughout the book of goatfucking however that specifically instruct ragheads to beat their wives and execute nonbelievers and every other thing they've done
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>>732236606

You can trigger them to the moon and back with dozens of phrases and you want to use something they created themself?
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>>732239560
The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to claim that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest).
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>>732239714
Sorry if i sound pompous, but you are overcomplicating that text

Free will is simply what the person in question wants

If that person wants to keep their lifestyle, they keep it. End of discussion.
And if you claim that islam is unkind and prejudices people, then I swear to you that I have not practiced islam for a day in my life, because I aim to practice something kind and fair
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>>732239880
The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous - the actual Arabic words for persecution (idtihad) - and oppression are not used instead of fitna. Fitna can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. A strict translation is 'sedition,' meaning rebellion against authority (the authority being Allah). This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief. [Editor's note: these notes have been modified slightly after a critic misinterpreted our language. Verse 193 plainly says that 'fighting' is sanctioned even if the fitna 'ceases'. This is about religious order, not real persecution.]
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>>732239372
They don't have to kill anybody to see that their idiots. Their behavior alone speaks volumes.
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>>732239277
Further, by the law of the land in the US, if enough like-minded individuala takes hold of the legislative branch through elections they can pass laws that could force people to give up their stuff and it would be "voluntary" or the people's "free will" because the people put those individuals into office in the first place.
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>>732239904
>I aim to practice something kind and fair
Better find something better than Islam, too bad you can't because apostates get killed.
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>>732239913
Thank you!
Someone who actually read the text in the native language

Pic unrelated but i need to unwind for a second
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>>732239976
Yes and their behavior is also completely within the law and non violent you autist lmao
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>>732232169
A /pol/tard.
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>>732239976
I'd rather have a bunch of annoying idiots around than people who drive trucks into gatherings of people, westboro don't even register on the scale of atrocities Islamists are committing.
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>>732238204
Name me one Muslim country where other religions denominations have prospered, or thrived? You can't because there aren't any.
Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Burma all these countries used to have a good mix of religions. Shocker I know as these countries are now known for religious executions, sharia law, and hardcore Muslim militants. Now, practically all others denominations have disappeared, either killed, forced conversations or flee the country.
Don't act like Islam teaches tolerance, you can't stand other religions, doesn't it say in the Koran to kill non-believers? To tax those who don't believe in Muhammed?
Gtf outta here with your lies, Islam is cancer and sooner people realise it the better.
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>>732240069
Dude, dont act like im like them, who kill and murder
Im just a random dude who wants to be rational and understanding, and defend the normal, not crazy way of life

I bet you and me have more similarities than differences in upbringing and beliefs
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>>732240082
It was part two of my post and further cements that the verse is about offensive war and not a defensive one.
Thank you for agreeing that Islam is not a religion of peace though.
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>>732240180
This. Just like the modern KKK they're harmless inbred rednecks that parade around further proving that religious extremism is cancer
They're doing more good than they've ever done harm
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>>732240195
Hinduism is a big thing in the UAE (primarily muslim country), and there are plenty of churches and synagogues where noone is blowing the other up
Source: I was raised there
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>>732239904
The text is rather simple and we live in a complex world. While one can infer certain actions out of it, things still need to be explicitly clear else people will do bad things. Think before slavery was abolished in the US, there was nothing in the law that said blacks weren't people or you could murder them or treat them like shit, tho others found ways to make it okay, which is why we had to enact additional laws to make it clear that you can't lynch a nigger just because.
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>>732240405
>Hinduism is a big thing in the UAE
Among their fucking indentured servants.
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>>732240180
The westboro people dont live where they get napalm spread on them, that mght be a factor
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>>732233146

especially my constipation. Kike conspiracy to reduce fiber in my diet.
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>>732240512
Yes, the fact that the US developed into a civilized country due to the lack of islamization has helped many groups
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I love how everyone on /b/ is secretly a religious scholar

>>732232169
sometimes you don't have a choice where you are born or what parents you have. I can't hate someone cos they happned to be born jewish or happened to be born in a muslim majority country, thus leading to the significantly increased risk of being raised muslim. But still, if you follow any bearded sky fairy that will absolve you from any responsibilities then you are a fucking tool. If you believe in an extra-dimensional creator for the sake of being a good human to others then that's fair enough.

If you believe that God hates certain people, yet is too impotent to kill those people Himself thus forcing you to do God's work for Him, then you are a fucking retard and you do not understand the meaning of omnipotence.
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>>732240487
Servants? If you mean the lower working class, thats not just indians, its full of arabs and muslims aswell, sudanese, egyptians, indonesians, syrians

Same as the indians and native americans in the US, same as other minorities in theUK, its what happens when a country has a shit economy
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>>732240204
Can you leave Islam? yes or no?
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>>732240670
If I didnt believe in it? Yes
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>>732240666
Yeah, when people work in western nations, they don't get their passports taken away and other fun stuff.
They are basically slaves.
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>>732240744
Shiite or Sunni?
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>>732240744
but the youtube videos told me that all muslims who leave islam are executed?

Are you saying that infowars lied to me?
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>>732240767
>passports taken away
That doesnt happen in the UAE
There are plenty of places where it does happen, but they kind of have revolutions and shit going on, with dictators and invasion, incase you haven't noticed, and not every country can account for the other ones
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>>732240744
>if I didn't believe in it
Yes because then you won't be terrified of the giant Pube bearded faggot in the sky smiting you for apostasy
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>>732240649
I'm not a religious scholar, I'm questioning it. I know fuck all about islam, I'm simply working off what I've been told as of yet.
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>>732240744
So, if you believe in it: no?
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>>732240876
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/22/united-arab-emirates-trapped-exploited-abused
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>>732240649
Being a religious scholar isn't a requirement to look at quotes with definitive meaning and conclude that Islam is cancer
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>>732240956
What? why would he leave if he believes?
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>>732240837
I believe shiite and sunni are meaningless terms. They were introduced after an argument that took place after the prophet died, loically, he finished his teching before that, so how can it be a part of the religion?
Answer: It isnt. Atleast, only politically it is

See, I actually do think for myself, and I will admit there are harsh and outdated rules in the book, but thats like the old testament

We are meant to think for ourselves and judge whats right or wrong from what is taught to us, thats what the normal 99% do
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>>732241001
Because he mah find out something later that let's him know that his sky daddy was really just a fairly tale told to manipulate the masses into doing stuff that feels right at the time? Fuck if I know.
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>>732240956
Yes, I believe in the faith
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>>732240881
I would be more terrified giant pube bearded faggot down the street smiting me with his maroon minivan TBH
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>>732241133
So you can't leave then?
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>>732234372
Rabbi Shlomo kekd
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>>732241083
Then what mosque do you go to?
You sound like a muslim lite.
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>>732238532
shouldn't you change Afghanistan 2001, to saudi arabia 2001?
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>>732241149
That too. Also Mohammed was a pedophile warlord
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>>732232169
Hi, I'm a Jew. Have a nice day.
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>>732232169
A Mormon
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>>732241128
Dude you think i dont think about this? Ofcourse Ive considered that it could just be make believe, anyone on the earth has

Its not a coincidence that everyone just so happens to believe the faith their fathers and mothers hold

But it makes sense to me, to treat others well, and to be a good person
And aspects of christianity and judaism make sense to me as well
As does buddhism
And zoroastianism and Jainism

Im not trying to be some dick, but its what I believe in, and I hate to hear that people think we all have to just die or be blown up because of the 1% of fuckwits who are dragging others into their own problems.
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>>732241175
If i wanted to, I could, but I dont, so I wont
Final answer: I can leave
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>>732239752
/pol/ is literally the easiest place to troll, simply state any ideology, whether it be peace, love, NatSoc, fuck Nazis, Fuck Kikes, Fuck Sandniggers, Fuck whites, Fuck Leafs, Fuck Assad, Fuck Trump, Fuck Obama, Fuck Liberals, Fuck Republicans, Fuck Jews, or fuck Pepperidge Farm, and they become immediately triggered. It's pretty much where you go to get oppressed that way when you go out in public and try and argue, you can defend your shit.
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>>732232169
Jes are the cancer of this world, but muslims are Hepatitis c or something jesus.

Monotheism sucks.
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>>732241267
I have no appropriate reaction to this
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>>732241514
Whatever ideal you hold as the highest value is your God, like it or not.
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>>732241344
There, is everyone happy with me? can I go crawl into a hole and jerk myself to sleep? Goodnight /b/.....
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"Islam is the religion of peace!*"

*It's peaceful in 1st world countries only.

Surprised none of you saw the asterisk in the original quote, l2read /b/lebs
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>>732241344
What does your holy book say about lying to non-believers?
Like, if it says you have to be truthful, please provide a link to the source material and the passage that it says it in.
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>>732241705
You dont have to act respectful to it by calling it holy book, you can just call it book or text.

But what exactly do you mean lying? I just act the same with everyone
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>>732241705
If I remember correctly there is something about lying about being a muslim to escape persecution, but I believe it is a Shiite thing.
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>>732241387
Doesn't the Quran say that you can't leave the faith?
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>>732240902
well, if you are going to question something, I suggest you start by understanding it. To understand something you should probably study it.

And don't form opinions based on what people tell you, you muppet. Study the sources yourself first hand and then go from there.

>>732240986
you sir, sound like a delight. It is almost as if my earlier sarcasm flew right over everyone's head.

Still, I would argue that looking at quotes without context is borderline retarded. Hell, I could prove that Jesus wasn't a pacifist by quoting the bible out of context. Islam is a cancer, like any fundamentalist theocracy would be a cancer to a secular society. I have found that americans are more scared of this particular cancer because it conflicts witht he cancer of christianity that they themselves are living under. But in the same way that muslims do not see that they are inflicted by cancer, neither do christians see that they are also suffering under a (somewhat more benign since the reformation and counter reformation) form of cancer.

The concept of ceding sovereignty of one's own actions to a higher purpose is a useful tool when it comes to controlling groups of people. Unfortunately the idea that we should submit to Divine will is frankly an archaic notion and I hope that humans will grow out of this retardation within the next 200 years or so. It's a shame we have to live through a nuclear war before it happens but c'est la vie I suppose.

Humans on the whole are not very clever you see, and we are really susceptible to simple crowd controlling tricks. Inventing boogeymen to unite a fractious populace, submitting to the will of the Divine Creator, believing that a choice between 2 corporate stooges is any choice at all. These delusions keep us ticking along as a species and it's working out ok.

As soon as the oil runs out in the middle east we are all fucked though.
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>>732241839
I want links! Everything here is fiction, give me evidence!
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>>732241705
There's a specific word for it that I don't know, they're allowed to bullshit and completely lie about anything(Muslim laws, beliefs, etc)as long as it furthers the goals of islam and gets more converts
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>>732241267
you say that like it's a bad thing
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>>732241971
I'm agonistic faggot
I just accept the obvious fact that while it's better to be neither Christianity is a superior ideology that doesn't cause global war and violence
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>>732241971
>if you are going to question something, I suggest you start by understanding it
You can question and that is the studying, tho a weak form of studying when you don't have much knowledge of the subject matter.
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>>732241899
Which obviously doesnt apply to someone who doesnt believe in it anyway

There are rules and punishments, but its been twisted
Most of the exaggerated punishments arent supposed to be actually done to people, but its metaphorical to show how bad the sin is when done to someone (i.e. cheating)

People forget about all the times the prophet allowed and excused recent converts to keep drinking

Extremists dont know leniency, but its a big thing

Theres also a famous story of a woman who was to be tried with death for adultery, and the prophet straight up said that wasn't neccessary, pardoned

The unfortunate truth is that most people cant examine the example that the prophets character tries to set, they end up messing with the rules of the already ambiguous text, and it just gets bad from there
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>>732232169
both are worse
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>>732242036
Do you mean "intellectually dishonest"?
I've always hated that word since I first herd it.
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Jews are to blame forr why you're a virgin :)
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>>732242036
NO
Thats not true at all!
You are allowed to keep your religion a secret (I think thats quite fairl for anyone)

But lying is awful, one of the main things in islamic culture says that "whoever cheats/lies to us is not one of us" this rule is for muslims to follow
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>>732241971
>As soon as the oil runs out in the middle east
I heard that the Kuwaitis are thinking about making their oil company public so they have to release their reserves which are in the trillions of barrels to kill american shale oil for good.
Anyway, we are not running out of oil for a looooong time.
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>>732242304
Nope, some long Arab word that I can't be fucked to find. It's commonly used around the world though look it up
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>>732238532
>completely neglecting the iran-iraq war which involved extensive usage of chemical warfare
figuratively shaking my head at you pathetic gullible /pol/acks
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>>732242036
>>732241988
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
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>>732242362
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>>732242540
>iran-iraq war

>Totally wasn't a proxy war fought by Saddam for the Americans
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>>732242576
>"is an Arabic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution"

Thank you, can we go now?
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>>732242765
Ok, I assume no more questions
Welp, this has been fun, goodnight brothers
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>>732242206
Christianity became the largest religion in the world because it was a religion for slaves

The core tenets of christianity is meekness, humility and above all forgiveness. Good traits to have in slaves and thus it was encouraged to grow in the slave societies throughout the roman empire. I think it was Julian who saw the danger in letting christianity grow unchecked, and the role it would have in bringing down roman society but I think by that time it was already too late, the rot had already set in too deep. This is of course echoing what far right extremists are worried that is happening with islam today. History might very well move in cycles, who knows.

Anyways, christianity as we know it is of course a heavily edited version of the christianity that the roman slaves followed. They had to change a lot of the teachings through the various great Councils in order to stipulate what God "actually meant" in the bible, thus rewriting the Good Book to better serve the purposes of the now dominating catholic church. Sure, some people who didn't agree witht he changes were killed off, which is what jesus would have wanted, probably, and then there were other aspects that needed to be incorportaed into the church such as the Tithe and Indulgance letters and all the other ways the new theocratic ruling elite could scam money out of the people.

>>732242211
I would suggest you study first, question later. Still, I don't know fuck all about fuck all so I wouldn't trust my wor on it or any other matter, up to and including the rise of christianity within the roman empire
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>>732243403
>Anyways, christianity as we know it is of course a heavily edited version of the christianity that the roman slaves followed.

>implying source texts from the first century doesn't exist.
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>>732242499
no, we are not going to run out of oil in our lifetimes. But when there is no more oil left in the middle east the entire region will just be a concentrated mass of militant zealots stuck in a desert without natural resources.
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>>732243551
Oh? Do you read sanskrit?
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>>732243660

Yes.
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>>732234372
Polfags being this retarded

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/islamic-rage-boy
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>>732242436
i think they want you to ay that it is ok for you to lie to non-muslims, but not to muslims

But they think you are lying anyways so it doesnt matter what you say.

it's a nice little rhetorical trap.

"Muslims always lie, and if they say they are not lying, then that is a lie because Muslims always lie"

Thank God it says in the bible that christians cannot lie, and therefore christians never lie.

(I lie. I hav enever read the bible. I have no fucking idea whats in there)
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>>732243577
Good thing there is nothing better for the economy than war.

>>732243660
Sanskrit? Nigga the new testament is written in Koine Greek.
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>>732243831
fair enough. And do you feel that the modern translations do the source material justice?

Also, how do you feel that the decisions of the early church fathers of editing out the gospels they did not feel belonged in the bible any more were justified?

I accept that perhaps you have not read all of the bible in sanskrit, but maybe you have had a chance to look at some of the dead sea scrolls at least?
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>>732243974
Cool. Who here knows Koine Greek?
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>>732232169
Wew all these pol and sandniggers shilling "muh joos" in this thread.
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>>732244216
The people that translate bibles, which are pretty similar across the board.
Also a friend of mine that studied philosophy since it was required to study ancient Greek phil (which is best phil).
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>>732243974
I don't think there will be a war, as much as a mass exodus from the region.

I cannot find any references to any Koine Greek new testaments dating to the 1st century. granted, im just quickly googling this now though so I dont know.

Still, doesnt matter, feels like the thread is puttering to a stop now
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>>732240873
There is truth in that statement.
Muslims who try and leave the religion are often persecuted and killed /executed. This regularly happens in towns and villages where media isn't that apparent so they get away with it.
Now and then videos surface but why should the western countries care? This also happens in Western countries where the dad kills his daughter for liking a white boy but media won't publish as it becomes a 'hateful post '. This particular episode happened in Birmingham, UK but the world doesn't know as there is a blanket ban in UK where we can't say anything negative about Islam.
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>>732244155
>do you feel that the modern translations do the source material justice?
yes

>how do you feel that the decisions of the early church fathers of editing out the gospels they did not feel belonged in the bible any more were justified?
While some of the original reasoning was wonky (4 directions, therefore 4 testaments) having read some apocrypha from the time period, it is easy to see which writings are gnostic (doesn't fit with the narrative in all the writings) and which are not. They basically removed all the fanfiction and the protestant canon is different from the catholic one so it would depend on your denomination.
I do believe it contains what it needs to make a coherent story though, besides if you believe in the God of the bible you would assume he would make sure his book stays useful.

> dead sea scrolls
The parts which are canon match exactly with later editions so there is no proof of the old testament being edited over time. Further adding to that, there is a couple of passages in different books about how many riders and wagoneers being killed in a battle that do not match each other which is attributed to a clerical error waaaaaaaaay back in the day that never has been corrected because you just don't edit that shit.
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>>732232169
You are definitely worse than both combined
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>>732232169
Are hating jews just a meme? I honestly can't tell.
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>>732244561
Sorry, early to mid 2nd century, still before the Romans were involved with it.
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