So how much shit do I have to eat to be a Liberal?

>>732048193
Less than the amount required to think tax breaks for the rich will some how trickle down to you

>>732048294
But enough to believe that 4 more years of Obamacare actually solves any issues? Awesome.

>>732048484
>implying the senate will non reject the new health care act and that the repubs in congress even read the bill they pushed forward.

>>732048763
>Republican dominated government
>"Hurr durr they didn't read it and they won't pass it cuz muh intuition"

>>732049032
>hur dur I have to eat shit to keep my mind off of all the promises little Donny isn't keeping

>>732049185
Beats the fuck out of having Hillary in office.

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>>732049265
>hur dur my intuition says someone with experience in the field they going for couldnt do the job better
>hur dur I'm little Donny, doing my job is harder than I expected, I like my old life more

I am a Trump supporter, who hopes they do not repeal Obamacare without a complete repeal.
It is a colossal failure and needs to be left alone to fail.

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>>732048193

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>>732049450
>Experienced
>Colossal failure against a businessman with literally no history in politics.

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>>732049608

>>732049850
>>732050037
Alright alright, it might be a little small, but you can totally still read it. my bad

>>732049790
>Mexico is going to pay for the wall
>travel ban 2x
>we aren't going to be world police anymore
>not going to attack Syria
>defeat Isis in 30 days
>Obama golfs too much
>cutting taxes for the rich will help you
>drain the swamp
>help the inner cities
>fix infrastructure

And you believed him, kek

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>>732048193
Everyone I don't like is a
Liberal
Cuck
Leftwing
SJW
Marxist

The Emotional Childs Guide to Political Discussion

>>732050192
>HE GOLFS!!! WAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>HE IS GOING OFF OF A TRAVEL BAN THAT OBAMA MADE!!! WAHHHHHHHH!!!!
>WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE 1900S!!! WAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!


And you wanted some dried up bitch who would further tensions with Russia and "fix" ObamaCare.

Get real, you're a joke.

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>>732048294
>>732049450
>>732049185
>>732050192
>>732050258

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Just one piping hot logg will set you free

>>732050632
>implying I wanted hillary
>travel ban was Muslim focused
>spending over a third of your presidency on vacation...at our cost
>doesn't believe in climate change
>dismantling the EPA
>think clean coal is real
>thinks messing with North Korea is less dangerous than Russia
>pence
>removed limitations of separation of church and state

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>>732049450
Experience in being a criminal. She's got lots of it.

>>732051180
>implying trump has never beenchem taken to court
>implying any allegations against Hillary came to be true
>remember when little donny aide he was going to lock her up? Has it happened? Hmmm

>>732051097
>Travel ban began with Obama and was Muslim focused since it's conception
>Not at our cost
>Who fucking cares about climate change
>Not dismantling, merely replacing
>Messing with North Korea is like bullying the autistic kid that can't fight back because everyone hates him anyway
>Hillary's non-existent VP
>With literally no effect at all

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>>732051313

>>732048294
How does it not? Honest question.

>>732051313
>Destroying phones
>Deleting e-mails
>Murdering anyone who opposes her whenever she can
>Hillary has since disappeared from politics, no one really gives a shit what happens to her now.

>>732048294
this. why do americans keep confusing progressive ideas for liberal ones?

>>732048484

The affordable care act did solve issues.

>>732050632
>HE GOLFS!!! WAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you replying to >>732050192 or imitating President Trump when he complained about how much golf President Obama played?

>>732051673
I'm not saying that Liberals identify as progressives, I'm just saying all progressives are dumbshit liberals.

>>732051843
Replying to >>732050192

>>732051754
Like the never ending Democrat dilemma: "Just how else can we make the middle class poorer while lecturing them on how it's for their own good?"

>>732051912
Are you sure about that? Because it looked a lot like you were imitating President Trump complaining about how much gold President Obama played. Before he became President and carried on playing golf, of course.

>>732051460
>the world cares about climate change
>tax dollars pays for his vacations and security
>merely replacing scientists with coorprate shills

>>732051574
When has it ever?

>>732051634
funny how there are no charges brought up or no convictions or hearings. How's that Russia election fraud and ties panning out?

>>732048193
all of it

>>732052148
>funny how there are no charges brought up or no convictions or hearings. How's that Russia election fraud and ties panning out?
This was/is always fake news.

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>>732051984
>the middle class
>poorer

Found yer problem.

Have you ever wondered why so many people appear to be "middle class"? It's because they don't like to think of themselves are "working class". Yet a large percentage of people who self-identify as "middle class" are actually "working class". So then when a politician comes along with a tax plan and some media outlet tells you "They're going to squeeze the middle class!" all these not-at-all-middle-class people think it means them.

tl;dr: If you make people believe they're a different social class you can get them to vote against their own self interests.

>>732051460
>Implying messing with retards with nuclear missiles is more intelligent than poking Russia who would do nothing

>>732052294

sorry that doesn't work. entire us intelligence agency agrees it happened

>>732052294
>implying there isn't a current investigation on this
>implying trumps people weren't taking Russians bribes

>>732052148
>Yet it doesn't affect you sitting in mommy and daddy's house all day, does it?
>No, they don't.
>Good. Let it burn.

>Charges have been brought up countless times by the FBI
>Plenty of hearings with Hillary on the stand have occurred
>Russia hacking our election was a complete myth made by Liberals. Don't attribute that to me.

>>732052309
Ohhh man, I'm so scared of a nuclear arsenal that has failed during the testing phase well over three times.

>>732052475
Here is what should happen IMO:

1) Hillary goes to prison for a year, for obstruction. Just like Martha Stewart did.

2) Manafort / Flynn are tried and convicted of treason

3) Trump forced to resign

I hate pence so fucking much but this seems like the "fairest" results.

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>>732052298
>using a TLDR on 4chan

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>>732052474
>>732052475

>>732052485
>implying I don't work full time or am a NEET
>implying the evidence lead to her conviction
>implying taxes don't pay for everything he does
>implying being concerned about the health of the planet is wrong

>>732052557
>implying because they failed three times it will never work

>>732052723
Never said the concern for the planet was wrong.
If you work full time then why are you here?
Taxes don't pay for everything he does.

>>732052661
Fuck, just how new are you?

>>732052789
Have you even fucking seen all of the news reports showcasing their incompetence?

Your argument is a complete joke.

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>>732052789
lil kim is too short to reach the button
>>732052800
He didn't mention he works full time for Shareblue

>>732052702
>The military industrial complex is only good when they agree with me.

The world is a complicated place isn't it anon? You'll cope.

>>732052298
yeah, but it is even worse. it is all that rural trash that thinks they are just millionaires who have fallen on hard times. They have been taught that taxes on the ultrarich are somehow taxes on them.

>>732052702
Can't tell if you are stupid, a troll or a shill

>>732052800
I can browse /b/ because I have a job? Cool story /b/ro
Taxes do pay for what he does, how do you think the government funds its operations?

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>>732052950
You won't

>>732052981
Wrong. Congress has set his salary, the government pays him. The taxes I pay don't include "presidential salary" and never will.

>>732052893
Guise, it didn't work three times they will never get it right. Kek, have you ever done any sort of research in your life?

Pro tip: most new tech fails during R&D, more than three times

>>732048193
Honest truth...

If you're under 30 you're not really qualified to make a political opinion. You're still learning life.

If you haven't been to college and taken some law and polisci classes, then you really have no place talking politics, as you're just not educated enough to know how it works.

90% of the country is to fucking inexperienced or under educated to form a serious opinion either direction.

Sorry.

>>732053101
Nah I'm doing fine thanks m8. I always wonder how you all find the energy to be perpetually angry, though. It must be so exhausting.

>>732053104
Where does the government get money to pay him then?

>>732052557
Actual they've had a successful detonation once.

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>>732048193
it is like we learned in HS Liberal is for Change and Conservative is for staying the same or going back to familiar ways.
Unfortunately this mean that Liberals have to think (because new things require paying attention and thought) and Conservatives want to avoid thinking like the plague (once something is familiar you do not have to pay attention or think about it)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
This inclination towards though or away from though is what created the large divide in intelligence between the two groups. Close to a 14 point difference. Now consider that the retardation level used to be only 20 points below normal. Those 14 points may be why Liberals see Social Conservatives as retarded.

Keep in mind that the blind followers of either side are not though oriented and hence probably stupid. It just happens that Social conservatism caters way harder to stupidity than liberalism. Add in authoritarianism and you get dumber as again you are seeking a way to avoid ever thinking and "Just following orders/the law" is another great way to keep you brain in the off position.

>>732053117
>90% of the country is to fucking inexperienced or under educated
>to

well played faggot

>>732053117
>Truth
>under 30

Thats your opinion, don't get the two mixed up.

>I have been to college and have taken both law and polisci classes. Quit making assumptions you troglodyte.

>"Hurr durr here's a statistic I pulled out of my ass because my opinion is automatic truth"

Your body is nothing more than a husk that doesn't even house a fully functional brain, that I know for a fact.

>>732053117
>90% of the country is to fucking inexperienced or under educated to form a serious opinion either direction.
Yeah, but they are smart enough to out vote high headed zero's.

>>732053291
Trolling is a art.

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>>732053117
Do you have to drink a lot of gatorade to supply so many tears?

>>732053378
Um, I'm a Conservative.

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>>732053269
>https://www.psychologytoday.com/
>HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Opinionated article with no statistical evidence

>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>732053104
>the government pays him
>The taxes I pay don't

Good braining anon.

>>732053357
When you're older, you'll know better as well as be more humble.
You're a fucking child right now

>>732049185

Okay, so Keystone, Health reform, Gorsuch, the Wall... All TOTALLY never got started... And TOTALLY didn't happen because of pussy Democrat filibustering...

>>732053525
>Composition fallacy

Just because my money goes to government agencies doesn't mean that it goes directly to Trump's paycheck.

>>732053590
wut

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>>732053117
By this reasoning only athletes would be able to discuss sports.

>>732053572
>>732053117

Good counter argument there - "don't trust anyone over 30." Everyone over 30 is basically compromised. Logan's run bitches.

>>732053628
How you brain so good?

>>732053628
Technically it does. Tax money is pooled

>>732053572
>You're a fucking child

And you're a bloviating idiot who has literally no clue about jack shit.

>You must be 18+ to post

Get out.

>>732053700
thanks, this. None of it is "your money"

>>732053679
I sincerely hope you plan to commit suicide the day before your 30th birthday, before you become the thing you hate.

You probably think being an edgy teenager/20-something is brand new to your generation and your generation alone, too. Bless.

>>732053678
Not at all, non athletes can know the rules and how to play.

But you still need to learn somewhere. It's not innate knowledge. And politics is complicated as fuck.

>>732053628
Being this stupid
I can see why you are a trump supporter

>>732050192

>Wall in progress
>Keystone in progress
>Travel Ban being blocked by liberal judges appointed by Obama who allowed the same thing when he did it
>Lower taxes in progress

>Hurr durr nothing to see here Trump is a racist boolie and he's literally Hittlier!

>>732053680
Because I actually have an education.


>>732053700
Still no proof of it going to the president.


>>732053752
>"Hurr durr I said 'this' so it's automatically right
>Thanks for doing the thinking I don't have to do

>>732053822
>"Hurr durr ur dum cuz' I say so"
>No articulation of a counter-argument

Great job anon.

>>732053835
>Because I actually have an education.
>Still no proof of it going to the president.

How do you think this works, Mr. Educated? Please enlighten us stupid plebs.

in b4 "It's not my job to educate you"

>>732053800
I'm 40, so... was presenting an alternate view. also people peak intellectually in their late 20s. I was far more informed about government and foreign policy when I was 16 than I am now.

>>732053835
>Still no proof of it going to the president.

You are a fucking idiot. l2government.

>>732053709
Aww, I missed off a millennial. Can't wait for you to be serving fries to my son.

>>732053935
>Not the one who made the first affirmative statement
>Burden of proof is on you, dumbass.

>>732051754

>Making poor people pay for being poor is good
>Free health care for the unemployed is good
>Pissing a trillion dollars which has no practical use down the drain is good

So much good.

>>732053825
>thinks lower taxes for the rich will help him
>is ok with paying for a useless wall

>>732053915
Thinks his tax money goes to the government but doesn't go to trump. Being this stupid

>>732053994
>"Hurr durr I can't respond so I'll just call you stupid"

>>732054001
>Everyone I don't like is a millennial

>>732053994
>I was far more informed about government and foreign policy when I was 16

No, you just thought you did and were naive enough to believe that politicians cared, or weren't all the fucking same. As you've grown older you've just gained enough experience to realise that 99% of everything 99% of all politicians ever says is bullshit, and you've grown tired of listening to it.

>>732054099
>Government agencies =/= Trump's check

>"hurr durr being this stoopid"

Blow your head off.

>>732052298

Yeah, if you determine that the middle class is Obama's middle class. The 10% makes 150,000 a year. Middle class is really not that rich.

>>732052628

Why should Trump resign? He hasn't done anything illegal. He just said mean things.

>>732054093
Stand the fuck back everyone, he took a class in logic once!

You pay taxes to the Federal Government.
Every tax payers taxes are pooled.
The pool is used to pay for line items in the budget.
The budget includes line items for paying for the executive, legislative & judicial branch salaries.

You pay for the salary of the President.

But you knew this, and were only pretending to retarded.

>>732054232
Proof of taxes don't get used to pay for a government salary like the president

>>732054401
Don't you know? Trump's salary comes from unicorn farts.

>>732053117

Says the guy who is probably very rich and college educated, who still votes Democrat and wants to oppress Democrat voters for 12 years. And used the wrong form of "too".

>>732054342
>HAHAHAHAH LOOK AT THIS GUY GETTING AN EDUCATION CORRECTLY POINTING OUT FALLACIES AND SHIT HAHAHAHAHAH WHAT A FUCKING LOSER HAHAHAHAHAH

You're insane.

Your premises don't add up, and your conclusion is based on, once again, an assumption.

>>732054401
>Because they don't.

>>732054494
>Still not even able to prove your statement to be true because it isn't. Congrats.

>>732050806
Amen, brother

>>732054096
>Making poor people pay for being poor is good

No the idea is to make them pay for their own healthcare, instead of relying on emergency rooms and bankruptcy. Grants for the poor meant that it was effectively free. Also medicaid.


>Free health care for the unemployed is good

It is actually. You are also assuming that employed = healthcare which is definitely not true.

>Pissing a trillion dollars which has no practical use down the drain is good
Healthcare for americans is not "no practical use". It improves their ability to work, our ability to have a happy and healthy work force in the future, allows for preventative care which lessens the health costs in the future, and a ton of other advantages.

Also ACA was propping up medicaid and medicare.

>>732054340
His campaign manager, his head of national security, his atty general all worked directly or indirectly for the russian government. He has lied constantly about his own involvement

>We get tons of money from russia!
>We don't get any money from russia!

>I've met Putin
>I haven't met Putin

But if you want a single event - I would say that when Trump changed the GOP platform to remove military aid to the Ukraine, he did so at the request of Putin. Whether Manafort convinced him to do it or not - at some point he needs to be held responsible for what his team does. IMO changing the GOP platform like that was treason. It is unrealistic asking that he be taken out back and shot - and would be bad for America.

>>732054579
>Your premises don't add up

get_a_load_of_this_guy.bmp

>an assumption

Well yeah I guess it does work on the assumption that the salary of the President is paid from something other than fairy gold, but sure you got me anon. Gosh darn it, you dun trolld me gud.

>>732054099

>Thinks that only the rich benefit from low taxes
>Thinks the wall will do no good

>>732054579
Still no proof otherwise

How can you believe you give the government money but it doesn't support the figure head of the government

>>732054746
>Being this fucking stupid
>"hurr durr I'm right because I assumed things"

Good luck in life kiddo.

>>732054496
Dude, I vote Republican. I'm a hard core conservative. Have been since I graduated. Not rich either, only $160k/yr

If Trump shitted in your mouth would you still vote for him?

>>732054652
>because they don't
Guise hur dur there is no way a federal government job gets supported by federal taxes, trust me

>>732054799
>Good luck in life

Thanks!

>>732054818
>Not rich either, only $160k/yr
nice humble brag there. I too am part of the working class sir, I can only find employment half the year, and made only $30k on my 401k. Although I do have some capital gains to report in the amount of 3.5 million for 2016

>>732054898
>still better than hillary
>her emails
>I'd rather suck a guys cock, than let a woman run this country

>>732054760
>doesn't know most illegals outstay their visa and are already here
>thinks the rich share their profits with the poor/middle class

>>732051574
If you owned a business what would make you hire more people?

Demand or less taxes?

>>732055049
In NY, $160k ain't shit. I live check to check.

>>732054700

>Assumes that the fee for being too poor to afford healthcare makes the opt-out fee payable
www.playspent.com

>Strawman fallacy

>Assuming that this will be payed back or that they will automatically work

>Assuming that his campaign manager was criminal so he is too

>Hillary Clinton's camp manager was a pedophile but she is a good woman who did nothing wrong and def didn't delete emails

>Executing presidents is okay if they are Republicans
>Says Obama criticisms and Hillary criticizing are racist and sexist

>>732054868
>Lets just call conservatives snowflakes like they've been calling us for the last year! Yeah! That'll show em'!

>>732054818

>Wants to oppress opposing views
>Supports the party of equality since the Civil War

>>732055231
>straw-man fallacy
>says I think executing president is ok

sorry, if you are too stupid to even read what I've written, you aren't worth replying too.

>>732055387
I like "cornflakes" better lol. That isnt' about them being snowflakes - it is about them being fucking retards.

>>732055128

>Thinks that the rich are greedy racist pigs
>Loves George Soros

>Thinks I'm not informed enough to rebut him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_VDQVs7OE8

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>>732055554
fucking off by 1

>>732055419
Since when did I suppress an opposing view?

>>732055211
fucking ouch. New tax cuts will save you like $10k though I think.

>>732048193
No shit, just a limited understanding of how the world actually works and a superiority complex. Boom you're halfway there.

>>732055638

Most young people vote Democrat. And you think that, by virtue of being rich and educated, that I cannot discuss and understand simple math. I'm only 18 and I'm more politically informed than most adults. See, you assume that it's okay to oppress anyone that is either too poor to go to college or someone who has seen the older generation turn the place to SHIT.

>>732055596
>Thinks I'm not informed enough to rebut him
Can't form his own arguement, tries to use a YouTube video of a noncreditable source

>thinks reagonomics worked

>>732055916
I never mentioned money.

I only said most people, like you, are not educated enough to form a decent opinion. You need more life experience, and a solid education reading a bulk of the founders writings to understand their goals, ideals and what they wanted to achieve.

I'm not trying to be insulting, it's truth.
Just like I'd say a musical genius who's on 14 still wouldn't understand music theory even if they could play symphonies as a child.

>>732056258

>Doesn't even look at the video
>Assumes it's not valid

See, it has its sources listed, which is more than you've done.

>Thinks that the failures of the American people are the president's fault

This is like saying the Recession of 2008 was Obama's fault. Just so you know.

>>732051863
progressives are dumb as shit. they hate liberal ideas such as free market, the constitution & decentralization

>>732056315
>Just like I'd say a musical genius who's on 14 still wouldn't understand music theory even if they could play symphonies as a child.

Most scientists make their "big discoveries" by their late 20s. After that point your ability to think becomes more rigid. Your understanding of age and its relationship to education are way off.

>>732056785
>free market, the constitution & decentralization
You are fucking ignorant

>>732056315

>People who don't have X degree are too stupid to have their own opinion
>Implying college edu is not too expensive

I read all the founding documents. I have a whole shelf full of them. I can form an opinion on what works through looking at the numbers and looking at the traits leaders have. You're changing "opinion" and "Truth" around like you can make fact=opinion. Your opinion that I'm too uninformed to make a proper political decision is not fact. Politics is a simple thing and you shouldn't make it something only the elite are allowed to have. So get off your high horse.

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>>732048193
>Everyone I Don't Like is a Liberal

>>732056893
Don't give him a hard time - he was a dumb fucking kid until his 30s so he assumes everyone else was too.

>>732056949
keek that is pretty clever actually

>>732056893
Shows how stupid you are. You're a child, deal with it.

>>732056853
fuck you hippie, take your socalist bullshit and take a time machine back to nazi germany or commie sovjet

>>732056969

New favorite /b/ro

>>732056465
Dude in video critics shit tier claims with shit tier opinions, he only shows a graph from conservative review (totally non-bias Im sure). Doesn't list his sources in the video because I'm sure they are non bias too

>>732057037

You don't like me, so I'm a child. I don't like you, so you're a moron with a shit degree that is basically handed to them. Ad-Hominim. AKA- the "Fuck you too" fallacy. Goes both ways.

>>732057050
>>732057050
I did, I'm the guy who molested your mom when she was little. Ask her about it. I still call her sometimes and make her email me nudes.

>>732057165

Oh and your opinion is so high-and-mighty as it's the truth given by the Feminist Goddess of Dildos. Your opinions are formed by liberal news medias with a clear history of sleight of hand.

>>732048294
It's what Regannomics did and it worked out well. The thinking is that the rich will have an incentive to make more money and therefore invest more into firms creating more jobs

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>>732049450
Go back to leftypol on criplechan. We like Donald around here, faggot.

>>732057522
this is trolling, right?

>>732057427
Results to insults
It ok donny promised we won't pay for the wall, he'd never lie to us

>>732057574
that is pretty funny

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>>732057574
>We like Donald around here, faggot.
back to /pol/ you fucking kuk

>>732057574
Mainly because you are retarded

>>732057574
laughing out loud!
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.
.
>Still ongoing
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lol

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>If you think he's lost
>He's already won

>>732057659
I'd rather pay for the wall over 10x the amount supporting illegals.

>>732057659

>Never reads Trump's plan
>Assumes it's not going to work because MSN says so

>>732057863
>10x the amount supporting illegals.
* citation needed