>libtards will defend this

Go check the average salary of a college teacher (few profs are left) and you'll see they already teach for free, you cuckservative POS. (Don't you have a flat earth/god-believer argument you want to make while you're at it, fag?)

socialism is not communism. The end

>>731925864
A socialist college professor (not university apparently?) would teach for free if they lived in a setting where socialism existed. Just because you advocate for something doesn't mean it's already in place and you're capable of making use of it. That's the entire point of pushing for something like a political ideology in a place where said ideology doesn't exist.

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>>731926298
You are an enormous idiot of the most epic proportions. Unironically, end it.

>>731926052
As someone who worked in a payroll dept at a college, you sir, are full of fucking shit. Some of these maggots make 6 FireWire salaries for teaching womyn's studies.

>>731926391
>no and here is why
>lol ur stupid kys

>>731926187
What are you? 12?

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>>731926052
Yea, i believe you.

Why would they work for free? Their services as a tutor should be free is what socialists say, as it is in Scandinavia.

Stop feeding the stereotype that conservatives are uneducated.

>>731926187
You must talk about totalitarian communism. Communism is an economic model wich have only been tested on a small scale in democratic countries and failed because of criticism blind totalitarian management. Many private companies went bankrupt with the same problem

>>731926462
Some. Well, that changes everything. Ignore the ones who don't and just use the ones that do as examples.

Surprised the closet commies haven't gone after the greedy doctors yet. Their lack of logic says anyone who wants to keep their money is greedy and deserves violent action but nothing about the doctors' putting such a huge price on the health of the "community". Making them work for free would be for the "betterment of humanity" man.

>>731926768
>Stop feeding the stereotype
Stereotypes come from somewhere, eh?

>>731926520
Shitposting four year old confirmed.

>>731926298
So if murder was legal you would still murder even if you thought it shouldn't be. I hate SJWs so much fucking hipocrites

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>>731926768
Not all conservatives but there's a bunch of bigoted morons this side who are against individual thinking.
You need to be ready to amend your dogmas to adapt to reality. Facts don't follow your beliefs

>>731926636
Ironically, non-Marxist J. Peterson is one of the few to put his classes on youtube so people get free knowledge from him. Although yes, the students in the class do pay and he does get paid for the classes in the first place.

>>731926948
When doctors don't need to pay huge student loans they can work for a reasonable price and you can have an efficient public service like in france

>>731925864
They would if the goods and services they need were free as well.

>>731927487
>an efficient public service like in france
I don't think you've chosen the correct example here mate.
Sure minor medical issues are cheap in France, but that's about it. And the system is far from efficient.

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>>731927530
>they would if everything was given o me for free
I hate entitled millennials like you so much.

>>731927788
Health is not as expensive here than in USA. Even a better efficiency cannot balance financial parasitism

>>731927815
noone gives a fuck about old whiny slaves like you

>>731927815

when did /b/ become full of facebook shitposters who post images with watermarks on them lol.

LOUDERWITHCROWDER!

>>731928389
>slaves
Are you a soclalist? that's tought becasue SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK
>>731928516
>what is intellectual property

>>731928617

>intellectual property

>on /b/

kek look at this nigger

>>731927222
Trips of truth

Instead, liberal college professors do stuff like this for free.

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/%7Ealtemey/

>>731928359
Not expensive but ever creating debt. More debt, the less serious health issue are covered but the public health care. It is already the case of cancer in france for instance.
So yeepee, guy with a cold wont pay anything but cancer guy will have to pay more and more every year as the debt increases.

>>731926391
Good non-argument. It's not at all a waste of space. I especially liked how you didn't address any point whatsoever.

>>731927136
>So if murder was legal you would still murder even if you thought it shouldn't be.

I have no idea what the fuck you are saying. If murder were legal it would be legal. Why would I murder though? If I had a reason, then I might. But maybe not. Your argument is so fucking stupid I can't even guess what you're trying to say.

>>731928856
So you are saying you WOULD murder someone if it was legal?
This is to be expected for someone who supports killing of unborn babies but still, despicable.

>>731927815
Actually, that image is wrong.

Upkeep for the military is 3 trillion. In 3 years, our debt would be gone.

If you taxed the upper top corporate earners and close their loop holes, then you could afford free healthcare and education. He actually has presented bills explaining exactly how to do it.

>>731925864
I'm not a liberal or a socialist but I'm smart enough to know that people don't work for free in a socialist economy.
Way to be a dumb mother fucker

>>731928617
Also, socialism does work. Our infrastructure, emergency services and military are socialized.

You can tell this is written by a cuckservative. They have no idea beyond propaganda what Liberal ideas actually are, and they really can't stand for teachers or anyone who doesn't directly produce wealth to make a decent living.

>>731928815
France spends among the most on healthcare, yet their universal health care system is still cheaper than the US and they have longer life expectancies.

The American system is so fucking broken it's absurd.

>>731925864
>SOCIALISM MEANS FREE
2/10 made me reply

>>731929064

I like how the government can train people to fly in fighter jets, helicopters, operate drones, defuse IEDs but there is no way the government could possibly train anyone to be a doctor.

Oh and these government trained doctors would actually serve a purpose after their training instead of just becoming alcoholics, homeless or committing suicide after their service.

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>>731929000
If you taxed them businesses would fail and millions would lose their jobs, witch would be an even bigger drain on our resources witch would lead to a malfunctioning healthcare (just like the USSR) and it would just spiral like that until bancrupcy. Good job libtard, cleary you don't know about economics. Learn from people who actually succeded, not your false idols.
>>731929064
And this is why our debt is so high.

>>731926298
Pick one "you support socialism but you work in a capitalism you hypocrite" "you only support socialism because you're an unemployed loser"

>>731929296
Actually, our healthcare was done by military doctors. My dental care, Dad's back surgery, etc. we're either done by Captains educated on the militaries dime or were referred and covered by government healthcare

>>731929341
Our debt is high because conservatives constantly cut taxes under the delusion it will always raise revenues from a growing economy. The Laffer Curve has two slopes to it, and we're on the left side.

The social democracies of Europe have balanced budgets and remarkably low debt to GDP ratios.

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>>731929341
>run out of other people's money
Let's see how long that takes us, shall we?

Just saying that if it weren't for capitalism you tards wouldn't even have this discussion, the chance to prevail is what makes the world evolve, if you still don't agree with me get a plane to North Korea asap, and try t live to tell the tale.
Have a nice day bitches!

>>731929165
Gotta cut out the middle man... insurance companies

>>731929556

The reality of unregulated capitalism.

It's a game and they're winning.

>>731926052
Fucking liar.

My brother is one of those professors.

Claims to our mom he doesn't make shit.
In the same conversation claims he turned down a $250k/yr job

I looked right at my mom and said, "You don't turn down a $250k/yr job without having a $250k/yr job already."

Yes, he is a libtard, Bernie supporter.

Also, All his kids go to the college for free since he is employed there.

So yeah, being a college professor is a sweet gig.

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>>731926936
i work for the labor dept for a state, middle school teachers here make 70-90k a year and get summers off.

>>731929341
Why would they fail? Doesn't capitalism mean they would find a way to deliver thekr service as effectively as possible? For example, if we collect 1% of Apple's billion dollar industry, their corporate CEO probably couldn't afford a 7th home. How sad.

And our debt is high because we have a standing army and every continent. I remember the base in Turkey would have twice as many supplies delivered- one the Turks could go through and one they couldn't.

>>731929566
Dubs of truth

ITT 20,000 different definitions of socialism.

>>731929718

Where do you live?

In Wisconsin I started at $34,750.

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>>731926052
No one pays adjunct professors because they don't teach anything worth paying for

>>731929556
Wouldn't you feel bad if you worked your entire life to make that fortune and they took it away so they could pay for some homeless bum who refuses to work?
Why are liberals so devoid of empathy?

>>731929847
That's what happens when anything to the left of an unregulated corporate rapocracy is called socialism.

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no.

>>731926052
One of my professors lst semester makes over $300000. He is head of a department that he never even got a degree in.
Are you retarded?

>>731929552
Yeah, yurop full of mudslimes. Look at how it worked out for them.
Meanwhile the best country in the world is ruined bu it's own citizens. Sad.

>>731929853
$70-90K
Must be a major urban area. Multiple AAA school districts kinda shit.

>>731929896
>worked your entire life
lol

The few people that did work for their fortunes give billions to charity. So no, I don't imagine they would. You're devoid of reality.

>>731928951
lmao

I hope you're trolling

>>731925864
No, their salaries would be paid through the government.

>>731930023
You literally said you might murder someone if it was legal, stop backpeddling.

>>731927340
Most professors and other academics do not have the option to do this - it is often determined by the university/college if lectures are published publicly elsewhere.

>>731929896

>took it away

Look at the chart they've already taken all the money while us middle class people argue over minimum wage, insurance and if teachers making >50k a year is too much.

>>731925864
They practically do work for free. Next question, preferably from someone who has graduated from high school.

>>731929968
Non sequitur. You can have borders and universal health care ya dummy.

>>731930184
>taken all the money
Unlike you they worked for it, not just sat and expected the governement to give it to you for free.

>>731930094
It's football couch in Montana now, I think. Missoula's Dean stepped down after cutting salaries, removing departments and then built an athletes lounge and gave himself a pay raise as enrollement died.

The people who think professors are Marxist Jews have never been to college.

>>731925864
If Libertarian mouth breathers believed their own propaganda...

Wouldn't they move to the small gov't paradise of Somalia?

>>731929896
Do you really think the ultra-rich work harder than the lower middle class?

If so, you're either sheltered or delusional.

>>731926526
if a 12 year old is smarter than you, sure

>>731930283
>winrar

>>731925864
Technically they would teach for food/shelter/defense.

In a true socialist enviroment, people must be able to put into the system to take out from it. They would eventually need to rid of the elderly, disabled, and non workers.

The government would own the college business and provide all means to care for those who work within the school.

I do agree that professors are hipocritical. After all they are surrounded by uneducated morons and eventually their enviroment begins to shape them.

>>731929064
Emergency services, military, police, and roads are built entirely to make the capitalistic structure of america more effective. These are things that are paid for through taxes only because a capitalistic structure exists where people can buy things and be taxed when payong for them. Without a free market of goods there is nothing to tax. Without anything to tax there is nothing to redistribute.
Socialism in an of itself needs capitalism to even exist on a small scale. In and of that small scale it is a necessesary evil of a capitalistic structure. Capitalisms existence is so powerful that it created the freedom for you to have such a shitty opnion about economic structures. Capitalism is litteraly so great that it allows you to be a retard and still exist.

>>731930244
Yet libtards keep promoting both.
>>731930291
If that's not the case why aren't there more rich people? Come on, try, and when you come back bancrupt because you don't know shit about economics and only pretend then we'll talk.

>>731926052
Libtard spotted

>>731930466
I never once said Capitalism should cease to exist. I just think it should be regulated so rich assholes and their brainwashed pawns don't collapse the worlds economy again.

Moron.

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>>731930485
You're so inured with political tribalism you can't recognize a good idea if it's not from your team. Sad!

And if you were paying attention, the original claim was that the debt is high because of spending on 'socialism' like infrastructure. The social democracies of Europe have very low public debt all while spending on infrastructure, universal health care, higher education, etc. Debt is high in the United States because Republicans constantly cut taxes, then spend like madmen on pointless wars.

>>731929341
Actually, dumbass, most rich fucks leave their capital in their businesses, instead of transferring to offshore banks, when personal income taxes rise. You must be that republican that doesn't know shit about economics. Oh, wait, that's ALL republicans.

Read Capital by Thomas Picketty. Quit living in ignorance.

>>731930672
You implied it. We both know that.
Liberalisms ultimate goal is to destroy western society. Wether you belive that yourself or not is irrelevant.
Rich assholes are rich for a reason. You are not rich for a reason.
Get over it.

>>731930291
>why aren't there more rich people

I can not even fathom the kind of confusion of ideas that would provoke such a question...

>>731930903

>Read Capital by Thomas Picketty. Quit living in ignorance.

This.

But the same faggots that voted for Trump will probably shoot this down, not realizing that it essentially argues that they've been left behind by the global economy.

That's how fucking stupid they are. They bite the hand that feeds over, and over, and over, and over...

>>731930903
If you know this then why are you not conservative?
If you both know and understand that the people who are rich have all over their money tied up in capital that creates jobs and wealth for other people then why in the fuck would you support socialism? These rich people you complain about don't just have a fucking billion dollars in a room in there house. It is all likely invested besides a couple hundred thousand. This money is out to work makeing jobs and products for everyone else. It is by far a better system then socialism because takeing from the rich and giving to the poor destroys job. It destroys the richs incentive to work and it destroys the poors incentive to work.

>>731930922
The irony of a poor amerifat with no healthcare writing this is just... astounding.

>>731929718
He lives in a state with a high cost of living. Where 90k isn't shit. In my state, teachers qualify for food stamps in the summer.

>>731931152
If I was poor and fat wouldn't i be the one you are championing for?
If I was poor and fat and held this opnion then would that not make my opnion even less biased then you already assume it is?
When you don't understand economics resorting to ad hominem arguements make you (and other liberals) look bad you know that right?

>>731930922
Dubs say the truth again...

>>731926391
He is right through anon he got you there. All we have to do is hand over all the power, property, and means of production to the state and all teachers would be teaching for free.

I wouldn't though given the track record. in b4 'wasn't real socialism'

>>731931322
Oh snap more dubs of truth

>>731930885
Yet the USSR collapsed, funny isn't it?
Debt in the USA is so high because liberals and unions keep destroying businesses and groupls like BLM run accros our cities. Europe didn't have a nigger problem until recently.

>>731930283
If Somalia was white it would be a paradise.

>>731931488
If any place was white it would be a paradise

>>731931632
like iceland!

>>731931691
Better then africa. Thats for sure

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>>731931365
>for free

You are the least-qualified person to speak on the subject ever. There have never been pure socialist or pure capitalist economies in world history. You cannot separate the two. You can only balance the two to the benefit of everyone or fail at balancing the two. To demonize socialism is declaring your ignorance of economics in big neon letters.

Time to kill yourself, GED boy.

I haven't seen an ultra-convenient heat map of the US in a blue and green motif yet. Can someone whip one up? Let's go with.... density of unemployed blacks in predominantly Jewish states.

>>731931820
I agreed with this untill you said to demonise socialism is declaring your ignorance of economics in big neon letters
Socilaism should be demonized. It should only exist when necessary. Just like how killing people should be demonized. We should create a negative social stigma to keep people from doing it as much as possible but sometimes in rare qualified circumstances it is necessary.

This is in contrast to calling you a faggot which is often common and quite unnecessary but still for the greater good of everyone

>>731929853
CA
>>731931193
Your not entirely wrong, but its 70k is plenty fine unless you are in LA or the bay area. You can live comfortably and have a house if you are at 60k+ a year, pretty easily. I make 40k a year and while i dont own a home i can live super comfy and tuck 1000 a month into savings + Calpers (retirement for state employees) already coming out of my paycheck. Teachers make a super comfy salary unless you live in like rural AL or something.

>>731931820

I agree that no matter what you will always have aspects of both but given the choice I would rather have a capitalist focused society than a socialist in that it is less stagnant in my opinion.

As for the healthcare issue the problem is not capitalism or socialism but the unnecessary factors of insurance coupled with people becoming doctors for the wrong reasons.

>>731925864
They pretty much do. Compare salaries of history professors with those of law and finance. Now, look at the coaches salary.

>>731932234
>being a loser is the same as standing for your values
It'd be as if you said being homeless is fighting world hunger.

>>731926462
No they don't you fucking liar. I am in payroll at a state university. 60k tops for tenured liberal arts professors. High school teachers make more.

>>731932048
Yeah, like I said, you don't know shit about economics. You might as well be talking about unicorns. You should go talk about fucking your sister or how to cook meth. Something you actually have factual knowledge about.

>>731932386

>liberal arts

Like they should be paid more than 60k?

>>731932390
That was just a paragraph of ad hominem.
I don't mind if you ad hom me. Just create something that resembles an arguement to discuss on economics if you do so.
Faggot

>>731931820
claim: deriding the handing over all power, property, and means of production to the state means I am opposed to basic socialist functions such as the upkeep of roads.

diagnosis: rong since no one here said that.

Don't bother talking about who is qualified to speak or debate on this topic. Because at the very least I have no need to alter the positions of my opponent to make myself seem smart and present my case.

The flaw with your approach is that someone with actual intelligence (me) would notice that you simply filled in the blanks, and your pseudointellectual charade crumbles.

Too bad for you it never translated into anything worthwhile, you fat communist chimp.

But I'll give you a chance to explain why countries heavier on capitalist policies prospered and countries heavier on communist policies starved/became violent third world shitholes?

>in b4 worldwide conspiratorial effort to keep socialism down

>>731931120
>If you both know and understand that the people who are rich have all over their money tied up in capital that creates jobs and wealth for other people

lolol, the 1% is the richest they have ever been. Where are all the jobs?

>>731932549
I didn't say anything ad hominem. You speak of socialism like it's evil when it's natural, unless you live in somalia. The elements of socialism and capitalism have existed since the existence of tribes and trade. You take care of your fellow americans or you destroy the country hoarding shit. Seriously, you need to quit embarrassing yourself with this anti-socialism bullshit. You embarrass everyone here with your crystal clear ignorance.

>>731930885
please tell me you are joking
or are american liberals this bubbled
have you never heard of the Eurozone Crisis?

>>731933249
This is just wrong and your belief system fraudulent.
Collectivism, in all its forms will fail because it goes against human nature.

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>>731933249
I think you are the ignorant one. You speak of capitalism as though it is a bunch of nasty people trying to hurt each other. Capitalism was a system designed to put natural human nature to look out for ones self to not just be self deneficial but to benefit others as well. No trade will take place unless both parties benefit from it.
Socialism on the other hand is involuntarily taking from one and giving to another.
If thats not evil then I don't know what is.

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>>731930885
nice meme new friend
maybe you should read some actual news instead of "fake news"

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>>731933793
Not him.

>>731933913
This was the worst arguement against capitalism I have ever in my wntire life seen.
How many more people would have died from lack of clean water had a capitalistic structure not been put in place to create water purification plants?
Money morivates the creation os such things bit good will towards other humans.
If good will motivated people to do such things you would be out stroking a homeless mans cock to make him feel nice instead of shit posting on /b

>>731933913
A perfect example of propaganda. An appeal to authority without a hint of who that authority is.
Only a leftist would buy that.

>>731925864
>Dad is an engineering professor.
>Dad is also a socialist
>makes 300k a year with his side business as a consultant
>makes 150k a year on the stock market
>makes around 100k a year as a professor

He doesn't need his job as a professor at all from a monetary standpoint, yet he devotes more time to it than he does to his other jobs, none the less he continues to teach because he enjoys it and because he firmly believes that it is more important societal work to pass on as much knowledge as he can than simply to make cash money. If money were his priority his side business would be his main business and he would make far more money.

>>731933913
Food is made because money motivates farmers to farm. If it didn't they would only make enough for themseleves.
The cure for malaria exists because a capitalitic company exists to produce that cure. You think you can force thousands of people to go and make a cure for your malaria without paying them? And if you do, do you think that is not in and of itself evil?

>>731934246
So you dad is a cuck?
Do you look like him?

>>731934531
Top fucking kek

>>731932386
>60k
>tenure

pretty fucking sweet deal if you ask me. what do you want, a free dicksuck too?

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>>731932973
Oh, you had a minute pro-socialism position? You didn't state it and seemed rather absolute. I look forward to hearing your formal list of what socialist economic policies you find advantageous for the country.

Here's a side note. Among first world nations, the US has the highest infant mortality rate, highest incarceration %, high poverty rate, highest child starvation, etc. "Prosper" is a relative term.

Also, before you blame blacks, because, let's be honest, that's really why douchebags like you demonize social programs, look at the highest poverty rates in the last decade:


Mississippi 20.8 %
Arkansas 19.2 %
Louisiana 18.4 %
Alabama 17.6 %
Kentucky 17.6 %
Ohio 16.1 %
Oregon 16.1 %
North Carolina 15.9 %
Maine 15.8 %
Oklahoma 15.5 %
Texas 15.4 %
Tennessee 15.1 %

That's whitey being poor. Buying more products from 3rd world countries that use slave labor and selling them in civilized countries, then taking the profits and storing them in 3rd world banks seems to not be doing all the good you, let's be honest, fucking fake capitalists (kleptocrats/plutocrats) and national disgraces, if not outright traitors claim it does.

Seriously, talking with your ilk about economics is definitely like describing pussy to a virgin. Killing yourself would be a good start to saving the world, op.

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>>731927136

>>731928617
>intellectual property

kys

>>731926052
Im leaving this thread. First I have some bleach for you to butt chug. Where in the fuck did you come up with this? This is why eating every bit of cum you can get your hands on is bad. It'll just make you retarted and gay. Have a fun life faggot

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>>731934712
Let me help you out with that map my good friend
Almost every state you listed has an incredibly hogh black population.
Glad we could resolve this problem

>>731929718
Hey its worth while paying the people who educate our children decent living wages

>>731934712
Ok, you name calling cocksucker. How's that for astounding display of intelligence. Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?
To save time, give us examples of wildly successful socialism.>>731934712

>>731929896
We aren't advocating that it all be taken away, we would just like for everyone to have a small loan of one million dollars

>>731933504
Ah, we all came from tribes. You must be the biggest fucking moron in real life. Just take the gun you bought because you were afraid Obama would take your guns and blow your retarded brains out. Your existence goes against human nature. People as stupid as yourself are used to be sent out in the woods to die. You should be thankful, if you were sentient enough to understand your luck.

>>731935162
He will list all white countries. Watch him

>>731935341
>Ok, you name calling cocksucker. How's that for astounding display of intelligence. Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?
>To save time, give us examples of wildly successful socialism.

>>731934164
Nigga. Quit acting like you understand logical fallacies. You can't have an appeal to authority without authority. Fucking a you're a certified nimrod.

Just question the source with research. That would require reading, or even a google search. Let's be honest. You're obviously too stupid to read anything. Killing yourself would be the constructive alternative.

>>731934531
If being a cuck means making more money than you in a social system that he doesn't even support then yes. Motherfucker is 65, benches 245, can do 15 pullups in a row and curls 50s. I'm proud to look like him.

>>731935709
Ok, you name calling cocksucker. How's that for astounding display of intelligence. Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?
To save time, give us examples of wildly successful socialism.

>>731934712
Pour energy into a formal list of what socialist economic policies I'm in favor of for the likes of you? No I think we'll skip that but there are more than a few.

As for these grievances against 'capitalism', they don't apply to me. And you clearly seem to imply they're the state's (capitalism's) fault without any evidence when in fact they're life (individual) choices. Fuck around your whole life, learn or produce nothing to better yourself and then turn to selling drugs or crime to survive and should one be surprised at the end of that story?

I live in a mostly capitalist country and I did prosper compared to some lesser elements. All human beings are not equal, surely you can agree on that as you believe yourself above so many others without any merit to reinforce that delusion.

I made good use of my situation. Others are content to live off the forced generosity of the others.

Interestingly enough that many those states you named are in fact home to a large minority population. Surely their failures are the fault of the state. Even more interestingly is that you just admitted socialist countries are failures

>That's whitey being poor. Buying more products from 3rd world countries that use slave labor
>selling them in civilized countries

Is this shit real? Are retards unironically defending Communism?

>>731930291
Yeah, sure the ultra rich work just as hard as lower middleclass. Just like the top athletes train just as much as casual marathon runners.

>>731935033
Your use of that map is incorrect, as the governments of those states...the people who actually write laws and economic policies, have been and continue to be white, not just by a majority, but by a majority that doesn't represent the demographics. Try again, grand wizard.

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>>731932386
>state
>lib arts

Dumb ass professors that never worked a fucking day in their life. They go to school and get some bullshit degree and has no value in the workforce.

So what do they do? Teach the same bullshit to new students... And the cycle repeats.

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>>731936077
>Pour energy into a formal list of what socialist economic policies I'm in favor of for the likes of you? No I think we'll skip that but there are more than a few.

Just making it clear I can't give you credit for something you don't say.

As for your other shit that is just too ignorant to entertain. I believe we can have a basic socialist safety net for our population while supplying the opportunities for those that want to compete and thrive in a market economy. They are not diametrically opposed, nor is either inherently evil.

I think you confuse today's modern kleptocracy for capitalism and demonize the most basic human compassion as socialism. In either case, you're to lazy and uneducated to make a response that wouldn't embarrass yourself, which is ironic since you demonize others as lazy and unintelligent. I wish you well in the future, TIGHTLY encased in what seems an irony-free and information-deprived bubble.

I strongly encourage you to take a sabbatical to Somalia, to enjoy the blessings of a socialism-free economy, making sure to kill yourself while you are there (from assumed ecstacy).

>>731936935
So you are changing your arguement now?
I just want to clarify because before you tried to say that black people were not the ones in poverty. Now you are trying to say they are in poverty but it's just because of whitey.
So typical of you liberals. absolve black people from any of thier own doings.
Was typical of you to cal me a racist as well. You realise thats an ad hominem fallacy right?
So now that you have tried to ad hom and move the goal posts. Tell me again why black people arn't the reason socialism will never work in america.

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>>731937976
>Was typical of you to cal me a racist as well. You realise thats an ad hominem fallacy right?

1. You assumed I was talking about black population. Racist. Check.
2. You don't know enough about logical fallacies to know ad hominem is not ad hominem if it is true nor is a fallacial aspect of an argument an immediate disqualifier of an argument. ("Tu quoque" or "The fallacy fallacy")

Checkmate. Good day, pleb. Enjoy your GED-level education and thinly-veiled racist economic knowledge, derived from non-economists. You're a moron and you embarrass all humanity further with every sentence you type. Kys.

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>>731937791
>I can't give you credit for something you don't say.
Yet a second time now you seem perfectly content to give yourself credit for diffusing an argument that you created for me. How easy is it to make your answer sound smart when you've also created the question? This is evident by you bringing up Somalia once again making the erroneous claim I'm in favor of a society completely devoid of any collectivism.

Societies more communist than capitalist are will fail, the power resides in a bureaucracy that takes from its people without knowing what it's doing resulting in misery. Societies more capitalist than communist are successful, the power resides in the individual and their choices. At least until those societies become more and more socialist.

What you think are stinging embellishments are just mediocre canned insults and they do little to enhance your argument.

>As for your other shit that is just too ignorant to entertain
Would enjoy seeing you squirm to deflect the failures of blacks onto the state with measurable evidence and not societal conjecture.

Socialist, liberal, conservative are terrible labels. They're just too broad to really make a good argument on. I've heard enough people call themselves conservative and praise capitalism and family values yet act like Marx is the devil, despite that one of Marx's criticisms of capitalism was that it destroys families by making people a means of production so the family unit is just an economic tool with little other value. Which seems kind of conservative to me considering that Marx was against capitalism partially because he saw it as a threat to culture.

>>731925864
Not every liberal is commie. I think all Europeans (specially eastern and central) know what shit communism really is, so even our lefties aren't commies. It's happily problem only America.

>>731938717
Not that anon but from reading both of your conversations YOU were the one who brought up black people in the first place not him..
Also i havn't seen the other anon say a single racist thing.

You can't say
>HA YOU'RE A RACIST! I WIN! And run away.
Also you havn't said anything about economics really. You quoted some data and you didn't even source it. But anybody can do that without knowing economics.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>731940361
>Not that anon but from reading both of your conversations YOU were the one who brought up black people in the first place not him..
Also i havn't seen the other anon say a single racist thing.
quote me

>You can't say
"HA YOU'RE A RACIST! I WIN!" And run away.
Also you havn't said anything about economics really.
My criticism wasn't that he was a racist, but a moron. The undeniable racism of his citation after being triggered by me saying "whitey" overcame his limited reading comprehension and impulse control. Now, both of you are trying to herd this discussion into your arena, racist shit. No decent human being with a brain plays that game.

>>731940011
Thanks for saying something intelligent in this thread. Pointing out irony from something you read in a book isn't going to get you far with the OP. Nice try, though.

ITT: we exemplify our post-logic society and keep refreshing just to see who's arguing with us

I'm a prof at an average state school in the US. They started me off at 72K, which isn't really that much when you look at the amount of education I had to go through to get the job. But at the same time I can see how it could be considered hypocritical to keep the whole 72K and call myself a socialist because a lot of people make a lot less.

>>731940924
Sorry, but your double period and the double quotation made the quotes in that post messy. I hope you can figure out what I was saying. Green type fail.

>>731940924
Fucking autism.
You have to be trolling.
Read your own fucking posts moron.
This is exactly why you lost the election you can't argue for shit

>>731925864
Socialism doesn't mean no pay
It means completely equal low pay
Coming from a republican btw

>>731933504
>against human nature

Hoarding is not "human nature". It's merely the byproduct of people living in a "scarcity" mindset and passing that worldview to the following generation.