there are people who think this is wrong

Its mostly just stupid. The money, material, and manpower would be better used towards roads and bridges.

>>731509115
Yes i think it is wrong, because i think you have to start to install those panels at one end to the other, not intercalating.

>>731509115
It's not wrong. Stealing my money to pay for it is. If trump wants a wall, he can fucking pay for it.

I just don't understand why you keep making this thread over and over?

And since you did.. What are your thoughts on Spiceys press conference in which he renamed things that used to be a fence to now be called walls

No concrete and rebar anymore

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>>731509231

This.

If you think this stops the cartel in any way you're an IDIOT.

Let's say it was the best case scenario for Trump and he got a 200ft high wall that's dug 500ft underground AND Mexico somehow paid for it. (Which by the way, Trump said Mexico would pay for it by increasing their exporting rates, which means their products would get expensive here so technically Mexico isn't even paying for it, WE ARE) Trump forgets that there are these things called boats and airplanes, and that the cartel use them.

So the wall is literally a waste of money that could be used to better our infrastructure. Because you have to be a dumbass blind patriot to think our country has perfect infrastructure.

I'm all for helping against drugs and illegal immigration, but the wall is the dumbest idea on how to fix that and whenever someone is asked to explain how it'll stop everything 100% they fall back to chanting.

It's not so much wrong as it is retarded
but heh, you retards voted for it

>>731509231
Roads and bridges won't keep the rapey Mexicans out.

>>731509843
the "wall" that they say they are building goes 6 feet down to stop people from tunneling under.................... lol what???????? Will that even stop a dog from tunneling under?

>>731509843

Most importantly, do we really wanna stop the cartel??

Where else are we gonna get such good blow?

I REFUSE to switch to meth

what's wrong is overspending billions of dollars on a palliative measure that's easily avoided by anyone determined enough to get here, instead of spending far less money on improving the visa system for migrant and unskilled workers from Central America.

>but all illegal immigrants are rapists and drug dealers!
if you believe that, shoot yourself in the face.

>>731510632

Cartels bring in all the meth too...

>>731510632
Economies are efficient

Canada will start growing for us

>>731509115
Not me, I love video games that will never become reality even with billions of taxpayer bucks

>>731509231

how can one build bridges if they keep getting run down by illegals and ruined.

thats like building an attack unit without having no defences to allow you to build said unit.

>>731510791
>run down by illegals

dumbfuck

>>731510718

Coco plants only grow in high altitudes with high humidity.

Where in the fuck in Canada are you gonna find tropical altitudes?

>>731510445
Neither will the wall.

>>731510941
Coca*

>>731510941
*coca

>>731509115
>what is an extension ladder

>>731510646
HEY! YOUR LOGIC IS NOT WELCOME HERE

>>731509843
I think we can /thread here

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Build that fence!! Build that fence!

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>>731509115
ladders faggot, do you know ladders?

>>731510791
This site is for those aged 18 and over so, you know, fuck off.

>>731509843
This is as dumb of an argument as
>hurrr ladders

>>731510527
Along with location devices to detect tunneling, I'm not seeing a problem?

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>drug catapult

>>731511216

>Drug carrier pidgeons

>>731509497
If O-kenyan had wanted it, would have been just fine I'm sure.

>>731509843
/thread

I love how different legislators try to downplay trump's use of the word 'wall'
'no on, it'll be an electronic fence'
'it'll be surveillance'

a wall to block the entirety of the border with mexico is a massive undertaking, and an unfeasible waste of money.
Our nations roads and buildings are fucking decrepit, and this chucklefuck wants to put the our nations civil engineers and contractors on a a fucking wall job

even if the wall gets built, it does nothing to get to the root cause of the problem
what a buffoon.

Just station more dudes on the border wall. Any beaners try to get through just lay fire on them. Eventually a wall will be built with the bodies. Much cheaper, better method.

>>731511415
Trump probably knows the wall won't fix things, he just wants some big structure that he can say he's responsible for. Like 90% of his pathos is that he's scared that America won't have any great innovation he can slap his name on like he does with everything else with his name.

>>731511343
>actually believes that
KEK

>>731509115
I'm one of those people.

>>731512223
Yup.

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>>731511415
Holy. Fucking. Shit. You are an absolute idiotic twat at every level.

>I love how different legislators try to downplay trump's use of the word 'wall' 'no on, it'll be an electronic fence' 'it'll be surveillance'
A state of the art wall that comes equipped with sensors to do the things a big sheet of concrete itself can't do. Border surveillance is better than no border surveillance.

>a wall to block the entirety of the border with mexico is a massive undertaking, and an unfeasible waste of money.
More money is lost to illegal immigration each year. 'Bu.. but they pay taxes! abloo bloo'

>Our nations roads and buildings are fucking decrepit, and this chucklefuck wants to put the our nations civil engineers and contractors on a a fucking wall job

He wants to do both it turns out. I'm not sure if you formed your opinion by listening to his actual words or just reading headlines, but he's an advocate for both the wall and infrastructure spending. Dingus.

>even if the wall gets built, it does nothing to get to the root cause of the problem
Which it turns out Trump is also addressing. I don't see Hillary going after sanctuary cities, do you?

>what a buffoon.
the ironing

>>731512223
>>731512413

>>731509115
yea because it wont stop the spics at all and it is going to cost a shitload of money just so that trump said he built his wall.

>>731509115
Not wrong. Sure as fuck stupid though.

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>>731511343
>>731511343

> O-kenyan

hysterical

>>731509115
it is. there's already 600 miles of wall along the most heavily trafficked areas and that hasn't stopped anyone. putting walls out in the middle of nowhere won't do anything. additionally, the vast majority of people who come here illegally come by plane or boat.

you want those people to quit coming? end the drug war and they won't be afraid to live in their own damn countries anymore.

>>731512441
>putting this much effort into bait

>>731512958
People were convinced Trump's platform was banning all brown people. There is no bait only more only actual leftists

There are people who are not dumb. This is not OP dough.

>>731513057
Please rewrite this in a way that reveals to me what you're actually trying to fucking say. Thank you.

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>>731513326
If you're against the wall, you're retarded

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>what is rapidly advancing drone tech?
Poor trumpcucks.

>>731513460
>against the wall
Kek.
You're not very bright but thanks for your efforts champ x

>>731512441
>A state of the art wall that comes equipped with sensors to do the things a big sheet of concrete itself can't do. Border surveillance is better than no border surveillance.
This is indeed true...but thats not what he campaigned on? And repeatedly said? Big beautiful walll, 10 feet taller! Mexico will pay! Concrete & rebar

Constant complaining about the current little fences

The point is he made all these outlandish claims that are clearly not going to happen or absurd then back tracks to a semblance of reality while still selling the lies he told

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>>731513750
>This is indeed true...but thats not what he campaigned on? And repeatedly said? Big beautiful walll, 10 feet taller! Mexico will pay! Concrete & rebar
Right, but if you listened to his actual words and didn't get all of your opinions from Colbert you would have seen his campaign website where he platformed on a state of the art wall with surveillance. Did you ever even go to his policy website during the election? I honestly don't think you have.

>The point is he made all these outlandish claims that are clearly not going to happen or absurd then back tracks to a semblance of reality while still selling the lies he told
https://youtu.be/P_kwsSq_gs4?t=1031

Have you even watched a Press Conference or do you only get your information second hand?

>>731513750
I wonder how many times you said 'darling Trump will never be president'.

>>731513527
border patrol can hunt drones from behind the wall instead of chasing people through open desert

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>>731514059
In conclusion, Build the Wall and don't be afraid to point out Radical Islamic Terrorism

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>>731514619
lolno. Control this remotely from a thousand miles away. Even if it only carries an eighth at a time, at hundreds of dollars per shipment and only a few feet to travel, you are in fact cucked.
I feel so sorry for Americans who aren't thick as shit. You're all gonna suffer because of trumps retardation.
Hey, it was a truly superb red hat though.

>>731515195
>drones will carry people over the wall
o im laffin

>>731509115
The difference it's going to make:
>Billions of tax dollars wasted
>Mexicans now have to bring a longer ladder

Theyre fags https://youtu.be/qXTmAkJKikI

>>731515255
Home-made drones are already capable of carrying people, and the demand for advancements in the tech just rocketed.
People WILL find a way.

>>731513527
Oh wow. I was thinking of this statement from using it catch people crossing the border. I didn't even think about it being used for drugs. That's going to be almost impossible to deal with

>>731509115
Has anime gone too far?

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>>731515381
>Jefe from the farm and his family riding over the border on drones
The situations you crazies paint in your own heads

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>>731515195
>drones delivering weed

man if i didnt have crippling depression that would make me excited to live in the future

Anyone who locks their home at night or car when their away shouldn't complain. You secure your borders thats all there is to it

>>731515538
It doesn't matter how they do it, but to say that people won't find a way because of some retarded wall is horribly short-sighted.
And yup, drugs will still come through, easy af. My drone cost me £25, carries several ounces and travels at 45mph.

>>731511216
>>731511272
>drones

stop thinking in the past, guys.

>>731515740
Oh, and it's about 4 inches in size at its longest point.

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>>731515740
>but to say that people won't find a way because of some retarded wall is horribly short-sighted.
And to say there's no reason to have a wall as long as a person sneaks by is incredibly short-thought.

>And yup, drugs will still come through, easy af.
Great, so drones become a thing. What happens to counter that? How about a big, long chain across the border where you can place radio detector technology on it. If a drone goes over the border it's going to give off a signal, if there's a way to detect signals at every point along the border we know where to send border patrol. We have more border patrol now expressly because of Trump. Our border is now more secure in 100 days of Trump than 8 years of Obama.

Oh and on the bottom of that big, long chain of sensors you can put a big, long sheet of concrete to stop the foot traffic. Hey look two birds one stone! It's amazing how you can fix a problem when the administration treats it like an actual problem.

>>731509843
With a strong Border comes Strong border security.

This includes anyone taking any kind of vehicle past the border, by air or water.

But I guess it's easier to ignore the simplicity of "With border comes protection" so you can regurgitate Stephen Colbert and @midnight jokes

>>731516001
People will find another way. Tape drugs to a friggin firework and light it. Easy. You're setting yourself up for an ever-evolving battle which you'll lose. The only way to stop drugs from entering the u.s is to stop people from wanting them. Which you won't.

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>>731516254
>People will find another way. Tape drugs to a friggin firework and light it. Easy

Even this idea is better countered by having a big, long chain of sensors and manned posts compared to... not having sensors and manned posts.

>The only way to stop drugs from entering the u.s is to stop people from wanting them.
Cool, the wall is also there for stopping people, essay

>Which you won't.
Great, so at the same time we're securing the border we can advocate for more health clinics tailored around treating heroin addicts like addicts instead of criminals. I'm not seeing any lose option here with the border wall

>>731516487
You're spending an absolute fucktonne of money on something which will fail. All it'll do is make the trade in drugs and illegal immigration businesses massively more lucrative.

>>731516017
You think we are going to deny tourist visas?

They aren't even trying to build a real wall

>>731509115
With a long enough ladder and some wire cutters and the Mexicans will be over that in 10 minutes.

>>731509843
>The coast guard doesn't exist
>There aren't ridiculously high legal requirements for flying an aircraft in US airspace

>>731516704
>illegal immigration businesses massively more lucrative.
Right, because it will be a whole lot harder to get across the border. Which will cut down on the people coming across. Which will allow us to start the conversation on changing immigration law and procedure.

I'd ask if you've ever looked up how much illegal immigration costs but I'm going to assume no since you call the wall an 'absolute fucktonne'

Also I'll point out >>731515538 where the image shows a graph of the number of illegal immigrants going in to Hungry before/after they're border wall. Yes there were still people getting in, maybe they paid a massive amount of money to that new lucrative people smuggling business, but the number was severely decreased from what it was.

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>mfw everyone is debating about drugs but I just want the fucking spics to follow the law and stop crossing illegally

>>731516964
They didn't build a border wall in a day

They closed their border that day... and possibly started threatening to shoot people or something equally extreme

>>731516964
In time people will find workarounds and it'll have only made a small difference, but you'll still be making repayments in that dumbshit wall and its seemingly infinite guards.

>>731509115

Obviously fake.
The crane does not even have its support legs out.

>>731515740
>Cartels are smuggling in by the ounce

You're fucking retarded. Until you can bring in 10 fucking kilos they don't want to deal with that bullshit.

>>731517355
nooooooooooooo thats a LIVE PICTURE From the border! Trump is doing it!

>>731509231
>Its mostly just stupid.
This. It doesn't solve the problem at all but simple people need simple "solutions".

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>>731509115
there are people who think this is wrong

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>>731517187
>They didn't build a border wall in a day
But they built a border wall?

>and possibly
Come back with some actual information on what they did and not one of your heads wacky scenarios

>>731517200
>but you'll still be making repayments in that dumbshit wall and its seemingly infinite guards.
I mean, I don't mind paying the maintenance cost on a wall since it's enforcing immigration laws and all that. Kind of like how I don't mind paying for a police force or fire department.

I don't see how this logic is hard. How old are you might I ask?

>>731517439
>It doesn't solve the problem at all
What is this meme you retards keep espousing

>>731517397
If the journey takes 30 seconds and makes hundreds of dollars, it'll soon add up. You can't stop people from getting high. Even imposing the death penalty, as is the case in many places, people still get high. There's too much money to be made and too many people massively smarter than that trump fuckwit.

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>>731509115

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>>731517585
>than that trump fuckwit.
Your assmad is absolutely dripping

>>731517567
Immigration is going up every day before.. If they built a wall in one day that stopped it dead over night... Then it isn't really relevant to americas 1000s of mile long border that already haves miles of fence in populated areas

>>731517567
Most illegal immigrants stay on expired visas, illegal immigration peaked in 2008 before the financial crisis, Obama deported more illegals immigrants than any modern president, it isn't possible to build a wall along huge parts of the border, people can go around/under/over walls. Facts aren't as powerful as your feels, though.

>>731518171
You've accuse me and itt of being influenced by talkshow hosts, but in the U.K I don't see any of them.
Let me guess, they're 'the jews', right? They don't believe the things they say, they're just hellbent on globalisation and cucking the human race?
Maybe you should spend less time on /pol/. I bet in ten years if you read that farce of a board you'd cringe.

>>731518171
>only addresses one point that is open to debate and doesn't address the primary issue and assumes all the other points are wrong
Woah dude, it's almost like you don't have the ability to present an argument without trying to distract from the main point.

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>>731518578
>>731518727
kek, ask me how I know I just btfo your entire argument.

It's because you didn't even mention the article. Have your next response be an actual response. Your claim that Obama deported more illegals than any modern president was absolute, 100% bullshit that was specifically engineered by their administration to fool you. And you fell for it. What does that honestly say to you about your own ability to analyze the world around you?

>>731518578
That was a bit hard to read. My voice rec sw is shit and I'm on a mobile so proofreading is a bitch.
I bet if you stopped visiting /pol/ for a month your mood and quality of life would improve. It's an absolute cringe pit of bratshit. They don't have 'secret knowledge' which is hidden from the masses, they aren't saving their race, they're angst-riddled little shits who make most peoples' toes curl. Trump is a disaster, no matter how convoluted and loud their argument.

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>>731518932
>I bet if you stopped visiting /pol/ for a month your mood and quality of life would improve. It's an absolute cringe pit of bratshit
>>>731509115
>4chan.org/b/
>/b/
Dodge around the point all you want, but it's dumb to try the 'that board' argument here

>>731517585
>Smuggling an ounce every 30 seconds over the border when cartels smuggle kilos every 30 seconds

Lol okay buttmad fag

>>731519051
It's too hard to post anything longer than a sentence or two, I cbf. Trump won't really affect me anyway, not nearly as directly as poor America.
Are you really trying to tell me you don't fap over /pol/? You reek like Hitler's dick, anon. Being this determined regardless of how shit trump is, is no good for you.

>>731519269
>ctrl+f pol
>policy
>you mentioning /pol/
You're still dodging around the issue

>>731519188
That's a lot. Are you sure?
They needn't use only 1 drone at a time, yaknow. Nor use them at all in fact. there will always be an alternative.

>>731509115
as long as they stay in google sketchup you can build all the walls you want

>>731519400
>sensors on the wall pick up radio signals
>track radio signals to where drone is at
>people on the ground, now that there are actual people on the ground thanks to Trump, go to the area where the drones were detected
>catch drug dealers
Woah

Wait let's check the alternative

>Truck drives over the border full of drugs
>that's it
Woah

>>731519525
Lets see how much drug use declines under Trump. I'm sure that he has cracked a problem that no country on earth in history has ever managed to effectively tackle, right?

>>731509115

wrong? It's dumb as bricks. It's a massive expenditure for literally no gain whatsoever.

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>>731519843
Just reduced illegal immigration and better control over the flow of illegal drugs in to the country

>>731520106
He has achieved neither of these things

>>731520175
Because we're talking about the wall that's going to be built

>>731509115
>wrong
Not wrong necessarily, spend your money any way you like. Retarded and pointless though? Absolutely.

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>>731520416
see
>>731520106

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>>731509115
Keep the trash out, secure it.

>>731520542
Guess we'll have to wait and see whether it achieves this or not. And what excuse you come up with when it fails.

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>>731520763
The funniest part is that you were probably saying the same thing about Trump 'never becoming president'

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>>731520416
But Israel and other countries having a wall is genius?

Wouldn't people just cross using one of the hundred subway routes underneath the wall?

>>731511216
drugs are honestly just a scapegoat. i really just don't want mexicans crossing

>>731513527
>constant electronical interferance device
WOW, SUDDENLY THEY CANT USE BOTS NEAR THE BORDER

>>731515642
Libcucks always dance around this point

>>731520840
Yeah I really didn't think America could be that dumb. The dude barely revealed a single policy, he just pranced onto a stage to 'yall ready for this?' music and said "wall" a few times before rambling on like a pensioner by a fireplace, telling children how amazing he was, while refnecks in costumes cheered. It doesn't work like that in the rest of the world. This is how u.s elections come across:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QB-PNwtuYts

>>731521430
Did you ever visit his campaign website where it stated all of his policies?

Or were you never told to by CNN?

>>731521621
I don't watch CNN, but what purpose should his public appearances serve if not to tell people of the policies for which they're voting?
"Make America great again" repeated over and over means NOTHING

>>731509843
OH NO, HIS POLICY WILL MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE TO IMPORT FOREIGN GOODS? WHAT THE FUCK? HOW WILL MY COMPANY OUTSOURCE TO MEXICO NOW? NOW WE NEED TO MAKE JOBS IN AMERICA
WHAT THE FUCK
GOD DAMMIT I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HILARY AFTER ALL IM A WEALTHY DEMOCRAT WHO ISN'T AFFECTED BY LACK OF JOBS LOL