Why the fuck are expensive hobbies so damn desirable?

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>>731420611
Because you associate excess with success.

>>731420611
Because what appeals to you falls in that category.

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Semi-Modular Synth, 500-700 bucks, several to choose from, and a cheap midi keyboard to go with. So hard to choose.

>>731420611
You mean why are desirable hobbies so god damn expensive!

I feel that feel, OP.

I just became a gun owner and my revolver is hungry for magnums. Shooting is literally exploding your money away

>>731421113
Learn to do reloads.

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>>731420981
Seriously. I do my homework, I watch a million YouTube videos, and the entry point is still around $1000. Pick guitars, computers, R/C biplanes, a starter wood shop, home theaters, saltwater fishtanks, turntables and tube amps... dear god.

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>>731421113
Oh, man. Thought about getting a little glock or something for plinkin' soda cans. $500-$700!

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>>731421285
Yeah, but what does the starter equipment to reload the ammo cost, including a starter pistol or rifle?

>>731420611

torrent DAW software and a bunch of plugins on a shitty laptop and you got more than what aphex twin had in the early 90s. Analog gear is no longer strictly superior. Buy a second hand USB-MIDI keyboard and get to it.

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>>731421603
Thought about that, too, but I'd rather have a real device that's very very limited than a virtual device with 200+ filter effects.
I've tried the ikaossilator, everything's tucked away and embedded in menus and sub menus.
I'd rather have a one knob, one function sort of deal to learn on.

try growing mushrooms

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>>731421603
I work with a studio full of analogue gear and most of the soft synths out there. Your comment is rediculous. The difference is night and day. "A shitty laptop" will at best get you a few tracks laid, before it starts lagging.

Nice Mother-32 op also, we have two. Love the Prophet 12 we have though.

Pic related.

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>>731422154
Listening to other people's music is way fuckin' cheaper, fer sure.

Jerking off is free

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>>731422248
Yeah, see this is the kinda shit that scares the hell out of me. I'd rather stick to a small handful of inexpensive stuff to use, but the modular/synth world gets so hoard-ey so damn quick.
but, yeah. Haven't really heard any negatives about the Mother 32 save the price.

>>731421285
>OP tried reload
>OP dead cause shit powder and too much
>nohandscausegunboom.pdf

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>>731422248
Seems so common to have such a giant collection. How much of it's unplugged and gathering dust?

I wound up picking up not one but three expensive hobbies over the years. Photography (wildlife), bass guitar, and woodworking. Woodworking isn't too bad initially if you start with hand tools but once you get all serious business about it and start picking up the important power tools things get pricey. And also it's spilled over in to my requirements for housing; I NEED a garage or at least a backyard shed or something to run the tools and store the stuff.

>>731422673
At least he wasn't a blackpowder larping faggot.

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>>731422481
Look at the Korg Minilogue too, it landed around £300, but demand and price have since risen. It sounds great, albeit not modular, but a great addon nonetheless. The Elektron stuff is great too, and for a bass that shakes rooms from the get go, the Sub Phatty. I've the keys, and find myself locking myself in the odd weekend and fucking around with everything.
Have different electronic artists in collaborating with people, pic related Tom Middleton.

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>>731422874
Oh, man. I went to a pretty nice camera store once, they had lenses you could damn near buy a house for. I noped out of there.
(Been very tempted by the Canon EOS M3, though. Decent camera, $550 price tag)

>>731422823
it's all hooked up and used quite a bit, less used stuff would be Korg Kronos (strangely), and OP-1 which has a fault and fails to start.

Poeple managed to make shit good music back in the days without any shit. Why could you not ?

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>>731423257

Yep. My telephoto lens cost $1100. Used!

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>>731423213
I saw that one, it looks real nice, but I'd rather have a separate semi-modular synth with a cheap midi attached keyboard.
Mostly I just want something with nice Moog style knobs on it, and the Korg is $500 with pretty cheapo knobs.
It is really nice, though, aluminum with wood, too.

>>731423447
Good glass is worth it. You ever post on /po/?

>>731423415
They used analogue too, Korg M1 now would be like 2/300 secondhand now, in 90s about 1.5k.

>>731422248

Nice collection. But you don't need a Porsche to learn how to drive, right. And a basic laptop will run a few tracks, that's the point. What studio is that, if I may ask?

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>>731423361
The OP-1 is what started all this for me. Wanted one, but they're spendy and kinda toy looking.
Been trying to find something similar with a better keyboard, and that's what got me on the seperate modular/midi keyboard kick I'm on.

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>>731421404
Get a Hi-Point. They're shit compared to other manufacturers, but they're cheap.


Meanwhile, a good HAM set will run about $500.

>>731420611
cause you're made to think they are

>to drive consumerism no new games can be implemented that do not use more parts/material than the previous ones.

>>731423583
That looks a nice wee synth, ain't seen that one.

Mates building a eurorack similar to first pic in thread, minus the mother but with loads of tiny little strips that cost a small fortune. check this, it's his in studio: https://www.instagram.com/p/BTZStfZBBlL/

>>731423719
You're 100% right, learning being the key. But to expand and take it serious you need to invest a little, or find a studio like ours that allows you to use for a small fee.

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Bypass all the wire boxes and get a full Pro Tools HD set including PC cards. Will only set you back just north of $10K. install on a good PC with a decent display, set you back short of $20K. Know guys that did not buy a new car for this set-up.

>>731423785
Yea wasn't mad about it, was a tad fidgety and small. Sounds great though, but a real airport hipster toy.

>buy guitar £60
>had it 12 years, still good

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>>731424285
Plus I've seen videos where the buttons have fallen off. If I'm gonna do it, I'd rather have a nicely built one that's complex and limited at the same time, and well made.
(not the werkstatt, though. too limited, no midi without modifying)

>>731421113
You'll shoot your eye out kid.

>>731424745
Another I haven't seen, looks super solid.

I'd imagine buttons and shit fall off with guys who overly dramatically twist knobs for show... Jon Hopkins is a master at that! We had him over playing once, ripped the arse out of twisting on stage. See vid haha! Great tunes though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CmQW1VEe-8

>>731420611
oh yeah like warhammer. it costs a fortune and gets all the bitchez

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>>731425180
oh fuck, I'm into Warhammer 40k, too. Goddamn it. I've got some tyranids, space marines, skiitari, and necrons. piles of paint from citadel, army painter, privateer press, and tamiya. Have an airbrush and compressor I got for free, haven't cleaned it off and tried it yet.

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>>731420611
why not learn to play an instrument, or take vocal lessons, and become a real musician instead?

Here, maybe this song will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POnGb28DgFQ

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>>731425749
I used to play guitar, but I sold it. My hands are too arthritic and painful.
I can sing, spent years working a job where I drove 3-5 hours a day, and spent a lot of that doing car karaoke.
My confidence is shit though, and you need that to sing in front of anyone.

An instrument is a thing that makes noise.
A musician is a person that makes noise.
Whether it's "real" or not is not their responsibility at all. It's your responsibility to find what you like and ignore the rest.

Now, I want neither an instrument or to be a musician. I want a toy to play with. Fuck your "real" music up it's pretentious little puckered asshole.

>>731420611
You should seriously consider building these from scratch. I've built guitar amplifiers and effect pedals for dirt cheap and gained a fuckload of knowledge in the process.

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Show me what you got.
Get on my level plebes.

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>>731425749
Oh, and I love Mojo Nixon, by the way. Fun psychobilly. He collab'd with Jello Biafra once, that album is GOLD.

>>731422481
mmmm dat mom32

>>731420611
because you're autistic

>>731423257
You're brave posting an image like that.

(imma buy one too though, don't tell Moog or the purists)

>>731424248
die

>>731426744
People are gonna be fighting over that fucking thing when it comes out, I just know it. $400 for a minimoog?! That's it??

>>731422823
Who owned this collection, and did he ever produce anything listenable?

A lot of synthfags get so into making interesting noises that they never really make any music.

>>731426675
probably. shouldn't stop me from making noise and having fun, though.

>>731426903
This is exactly why I want one semi-modular that can act as an all-in-one to start with. It'll do enough to be useful, but not be completely overwhelming.

Is smoking weed a hobby?

>>731427127
nope, if you think smoking weed could be a 'hobby' then your a lazy nigger. you should probably reconsider your life.

>>731427127
Can be if it's vape'd or hookah'd or done in a nice bong or glass pipe or maybe a combination of those things. Maybe building the pipes are cheaper.
PLUS WHAT THE BUD ITSELF ACTUALLY COSTS

>>731426858
Serves moog right for charging 3800 for their version.

>>731426858
People are already fighting over it. Lmao

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Who wants to make a TECHNO collab on fl or ableton ?

>>731427493
If I start saving now, I should be able to afford something by September, and I think that's when the Behringer comes out. I should probably stick to the Mother 32, because it'll be easier to get ahold of...

>>731426442
>>731426654

You know what? I wuz wrong about you, and I think you may be pretty cool after all. Have some Country Dick Montana: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dwbkBkyKA

>>731427736
Go for the mom32. It's a really nice little semi-modular. And it's Moog so it's really good quality.

>>731427568
Sorry dude I only do ambient drone

>>731428039
Hey, new artist for me. I dig this guy, thanks!

This must be the guy Nixon was singing about in one of his songs, I recognize the name Country Dick.

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>>731426548

>>731425463
I have a microbrute, can explain what this is please?

>>731428576
The fuck is this shit. That's not a synthesizer! Get that shit outta here

>>731420611
CHECK MY BAND WE ARE SIGNED AND TOURING UK
HIT LIKE U LOSERS
https://youtu.be/mRlpyPrtWsw

>>731422248
Derek Sherinian, is that you?

>>731428989
die

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>>731428873
Something I found when I searched for Microbrute mods. Ultimately, this is the sort of thing I wanna build. Cheap little midi keyboard, and a few inexpensive modular stuff.

>>731429011
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU VIRGIN BITCH PAKI CURRYMUCHER
JUST LIKE MY BAND AND FUCK OFF
https://youtu.be/mRlpyPrtWsw

>>731428954
just showing what I got

>>731429117
I don't even want you to like my band.

>>731429087
That's dope, I have to look into some extras for the lil guy. Any suggestions?

>>731422154
I did that like 3 years, and I got pretty good at it. It's a pain in the ass, but pretty fun and affordable.

>>731429127
Just giving you shit man. My buddy is the guitarist in my band and I give him shit all the time because we're so synth heavy. He's a crucial piece of the puzzle, don't get me wrong. Haha

>>731420611
because you're buying specialized audio hardware in 2017
a computer can do everything these can do and more for cheaper

>>731429176
U SOUND LIKE A VIRGIN
https://youtu.be/mRlpyPrtWsw
HIT LIKE GUYS!!!!!!

>>731420611
Used Prophet= $700 can also find sometimes for around $500 and run that bitch through your PC= unlimited possibilities

>>731429363
Coming from someone who uses both software and hardware, I have found that hardware is a more pleasant experience. It's about the tactile feeling of physically turning the knobs, pressing real keys, plugging in the cables and creating patches. It's more than just producing, it's an experience.

That being said, I find that software is crucial for post-production, but I prefer the sounds from an actual hardware machine than a plug in. If you think that you can achieve the same sound with software, then you're just fuckin high.

>>731428421
Yea, that was him solo. His regular band was the Beat Farmers. He was actually their drummer, but often enough acted as their frontman too. Mojo originally wanted to join the band before hooking up with Skid Roper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2LMcVM1WDY

>>731429363
You clearly don't know shit about being a true musician and what it implies

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>>731429255
I haven't bought anything yet, just spent 2 16-20 hour days not forgetting to eat, fighting dizziness and clicking on every damn synth website and video I can find.

>>731429503
More like "HIT DISLIKE GUYZ"

You guys like William onyeabor?

>>731429839
Nice, imma do that now

>>731429320
I'm doing some pretty cool experiments with the shape of my sound with this ampeg. it's got a 9 band equalizer. Also the Rickenbacker has a capacitor and a stereo output that lets me run each pickup through different amps

>>731429855
SHUT THE FUCK UP U CUNT
https://youtu.be/mRlpyPrtWsw

HIT LIKE GAYS
https://youtu.be/mRlpyPrtWsw

>>731429616
Prophet which? Which one? Those things are not usually very cheap, and they're old and probably need servicing.

>>731430184
Sell them asafp then use the money to get into a real hobby that will satisfy you

>>731430471
thrift shop midi keyboard, pirated software. :D

barring that, I'd ask the muff wiggler forums. you could go gear slutz, too, but they're kinda moneysicians. they turn their nose up at cheap.

>>731429756
>digital audio just doesn't have the same warmth as vinyl

post your music fags

i've just finished this piece for a horror film.

https://clyp.it/clztbu5a

also just get omnisphere, a decent midi controller and quit whining.

>>731430598
Thanks for the advice but I'm fairly experienced with soft synths and VSTs. Favourites being Operator (that comes with ableton) and NI Massive

>>731430355
Yeah his stuff is preeettttyyy crunchy. Hilarious lyrics cuz Nigerian and classic as fuck runs with nice tone.

>>731420611
You have it backwards; most hobbies are expensive because they are desirable (AKA high demand = high price)

>>731429363
>>731429756
>>731429825
First one i quoted is right. Technically, computers can make every sound.

Nice to see that many synth heads here.

>>731426903
That's a stupid thing to complain about.

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>>731433614
after all the daft punk and nine inch nails and hans zimmer and prodigy and deadmau5 and that wintergatan guy and his modulin instrument, and infected mushroom and chvrches and pendulum and alan parsons project and EARLY genesis and boston and tones on tail I've been listening to,
and my hands hurting too much to have any chops left for a fretboard on an electric guitar
and I sold my electric guitar and want another instrument...
yeah. the synth bug bit me pretty damn hard. :P

(I'm not buying that op-z if it's over $400, no way)

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what do you niggas think about the peak? I was almost set on prophet 6 but this baby popped out and its pretty cheap (also 3osc vs 2)

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>>731426548

Autistic "instruments" for people who can't be bothered to learn an actual intrument shouldn't be so expensive.

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at first i hated Arturia but for the price they are pretty alright

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>>731436479
garage sale midi keyboard, a computer I've already got and some pirated software's all I really need.
If I wanna be legit, I could download a Moog app for $30. It emulates a $10,000 setup.
Plus, I already have an ikaossilator app. I kinda hate it. I have a tiny iphone 4. I just want real knobs.

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Theres a kit to remove the keyboard on the minibrute.

>>731437075
y lol

what a stupid fucking kit

>>731435814
oh, damn, no. My price range's under $700.
that said, that thing looks SICK

>>731437155
You dont gig, do you faggot?

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This is my current setup. Only hardware synth I have at the moment is the Prophet 12 running through a stereo reverb.

>>731437155
>>731437075

OOh, hey. I could hook up a nicer keyboard, then.

That's my only gripe about the all-in-one keyboard/synth setups, I can't swap stuff around as easily.
Rather go modular so I can be cheap to start, then upgrade when I can.

>>731421291
>and the entry point is still around $1000. Pick guitars

You're fucking retarded if you think it cost $1000 to get started with guitar.

>>731428576
Nice 4 string. What brand is it I can't see the mark? Also how mutch did that tower cost? Im cucked into using a guitar amp.

That and my bass is a cheapo which is falling apart

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>>731437475
Right around $400 for a beginner guitar, $400 for a decent little tube combo amp, and $200 for all the misc bullshit that goes with, extra strings, a strap, picks, tuner, cable, maybe a stand, gig bag...
Going less than $400 for a guitar's not such a good idea without buying it in person to get a good look at it, check the frets, bridge, action, neck...
Yamaha does make a nice practice amp for $300, though.
Or I could get a virtual amp app or program, that'd cut the price in half.
Obviously buying used lowers the price, but think of what kind of rig you'd have for $1000 if you bought it all used!

>>731437973
Second hand Mexi strat $250, some decent pickups and a pro setup another hundred, you can get a sweet solid state vox amp for a couple hundred and a multi fx for less.

>music fag here

For the longest time
Couldn't afford real solid gear, so went with VST, laptop shit like that.

>primarily drummer fag
Play at a church on the weekends, they have an electric drum kit and a acoustic one in two different areas, play them both every Sunday. I had a shitty personal drum kit until a couple days ago, traded in and up to a really nice kit.

>production fag also
Used soft synths for a really long time, no midi controller. Finally got one, had an awesome time playing an actual instrument to make sounds

>guitar fag also
Got my guitar and bass setup really nice too.

Moral of my post: spend money to get an instrument that will make you happy. Settling on less than a quality rig that you want to see, play, hear and experience every day will only disappoint and disillusion you. I'm a singer in a band as well, and though I'm not a bad singer and have good pitch and control, I still feel self conscious and will start lessons soon.

My point is to put time, effort and money if necessary into your hobby and it will make you happy when you start succeeding.

Happy hobbying /b/ros

>>731437973
Mfw I bought my first bass from a pawn shop with nothing but ps3 games and a paintball gun and use my guitarists second amp

This is literally the most constructive thread ever on /b/....

>>731421404
>>731423899
A Hi-Point 9mm is unironically a pretty fun and easy gun to shoot. There's really nothing wrong with them, they're just cheap.

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>>731420611
How do you guys feel about Korg Volcas? I don't own any hardware synths, but i want to branch out into that world. I thought these would be a good place to start. I'm not a super serious musician, just like to make beats.

>>731437973
Dude you can get a super decent squier mustang ( don't hate I toured the entire East coast with one) for like 350. A used fender amp for >300 and rock the skirts off hundos of hunnies in a band that plays everything from snoop to fucking Elton John.

>>731420611
You know you can pirate most of your vidya, right?

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>>731438337
right, so about $500. for a cheap, used guitar I'd have to buy sight unseen online somewhere. or, luck out and find what I'm looking for in the price I want at pawn shops (which is rare, I've looked casually on weekends for years.) way easier to save the $400 up and buy exactly what I want.
AND that's exactly around the price point I'm looking at for all these semi-modular synths I've been posting.
I'll still need a keyboard to connect to the synth, too. so, about $1000 to get a decent set up.

>>731421113

My AK is hungry for 39mm, pretty fucking cheap to shoot too which is great. I really want to get an M1A, but the .308 is a bit pricier than the 39

>>731438668
What would you guys say to a squire bass with jazz pickups being 75 bucks? Should I snag it? Its definitely better then the Johnson I got

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>>731438658
I like my nerf Rival. Way easier to survive a nasty bout of depression with it.
I can still plink soda cans, and the ammo's reusable too.

>>731438964
I meant less than 300. I actually paid like 130 for a fender stage 112 and micced it through either our PA or the house system, sounded super dank

>>731420714
bruh...

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>>731438668
OOO. I need to research that one. I like the price!

>>731439268
You could also get aa brand new heritage .22 revolver for $150 the LR ammo is like $5 for 50 bullets.

>>731421285
Reloading doesn't really save you any money unless you shoot a LOT. People reload if they shoot obscure/expensive ammo, or if theyre one of those autists that set their rifle up on a bench stand for muh accuracy and fire one round every ten minutes.

If you're just a regular person who likes to go shooting every once in a while, you're not gonna see much of a cost benefit from reloading.

>>731439030
Buy whatever guitar you want man, but coming from someone with seven of them, I could make a sweet partscaster for 300 bucks and it will have a better tone than most thousand bucks guitars. Make sure you get it setup properly, whatever you get. Even many brand new guitars need to be setup properly, the string tension, new wood settling, and shipping can really effect them.

>>731438668
I bought Volca keys as my first hardware. If you are relatively experienced with plug in VST synths i at least recomend that you buy a midi keyboard to go with it.