Ask a suicide hotline operator anything

>>731337618
Volunteer or Paid Staff?

>>731337618
Do you feel sympathy to your callers?

>>731337793
Looking into paid options but I might go back to school and become a therapist instead

>>731337876
Always when I'm in the call but sometimes the real fucked up stories and things stick with me

Any green text stories

>>731337618
Most fucked up story you're willing to share?

How do you keep yourself from getting depressed after hearing that all day?

>>731337618
Hello OP
Im currently going through terrible hypoglycemia from alcohol abuse that gave me seizures. Tell your customers they are fucking snowflakes. Fucking pussies act depressed but don't even know what it truley is! Everyday for the past 2 months has been a painfull struggle, and im still here because i am not a pansy.

Any prank calls?

>>731337940
How long have you been doing this?

>>731338191
Take some insulin

>>731338191
literally nobody cares you fucking alcohlic loser

please kill yourself you scum addict, end your fucking life

>>731338102
Never done it but sure

>be me
>20
>started volunteering last week
>get call
>answer to a very young voice
>girl tells me about abusive father
>tells me she has gun
>I calm her down
>hear door open
>loud male voice yelling
>gunshot
>ohfuck.png
>girl starts crying
>realizes dad is dead not her
>hears another shot
>line goes quiet

>>731337618
What's your preferred method of suicide?

>>731338191
Also lost all my friends through life after highschool, my only love cheated on me with a douchbag who i hated before hand, and im songle, alone, dealling with pain struggling to even work a job the past couple months.

>>731338209
Literally almost every night

>>731338220
Almost a year

I was a volunteer hot line operator in SoCal for a year and a half

>>731338191
Hey thats like the opposite of my job, you are the worst person. Honestly I have heard children die, please go be a productive human

Has anyone said they're still going to kill themselfs then hung up?

>>731338626
Yea, sometimes even while on the line

>>731338323
My body is producing too much insulin
>>731338343
I've been clean for 2 months and quit without the knowledge of alcohol withdrawls that i somehow had in 1&1/2 years of drinking. Sooooooo ya.

>>731338343
This

>>731338456

Do you ever feel burned out?

>>731338680
You being clean doesn't justify you telling me to inadvertently kill people

>>731338619
So have i you special little snowflake. Have you ever been in crippling pain? I'll tell you now its worst then emotional trauma.

>>731338676
What are you supposed to do if someone kills themself while on the line, and dopeoe call in just to talk to someone while they're dying/ about to die

Have you read Survivor by Chuck Palahniuk? Ever want to do like in the book during one of those calls?

>>731338836
Kill yourself then???

>>731338813
If I do then I take the night off. Like I said, it isn't full time so I can just not go sometimes

>>731338836
And besides, most those pussys are wastes of space.

>>731338870
You report it and they try and find out who it was, I dont know what happens beyond that

>>731338879
Never heard of it, maybe I'll take a look

>>731338191
Not our fault you're literally retarded and don't know how to not fuck up your life, gay retard. My fuck this board gets more retarded with every second

>>731338879
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://english4success.ru/Upload/books/1720.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiEjfno7dLTAhUH2IMKHWAEBEUQFghcMAY&usg=AFQjCNHQuZFmKtjMuJKpOm0OGZx3CxYUTQ&sig2=oOJA6pFY4pYkdjM6-lrLuA

>>731339196
It's not those peoples fault they killed themselves too right? You gay retard.

>>731339086
If I felt that way why would I be doing what I do. Your argument is so null, you aren't changing anything. I'm not just going to suddenly think low on these people. If anyone is a waste of space its you, the person who thinks that they are above those in need even though you were once there.

>>731338923

What do you do to unwind from it?

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>>731338191

>>731339516
I smoke, or sleep, but sometime the bad shit just gets to you and you have to fight it. I admit sometimes you cant help but cry

>>731339437
I don't think im above anything but a little snowflake who can't help themselves, sorry anon but your job is shit tier at best. You talk to people who are weak mentally and given up without trying. Suicide os for the weak.
Nothing more, only less.

>>731339193
"I'm yelling at this girl: has she had enough?
I'm yelling: I'm not going to stand here and listen to her complain.
To stand here and try to fix her life is just a big waste of time. People don't want their
lives fixed. Nobody wants their problems solved. Their dramas. Their distractions.
Their stories resolved. Their messes cleaned up. Because what would they have left?
Just the big scary unknown.
Most people who call me already know what they want. Some want to die but are just
looking for my permission. Some want to die and just need a little encouragement. A
little push. Someone bent on suicide won't have much sense of humor left. One wrong
word, and they're an obituary the next week. Most of the calls I get, I'm only half
listening anyway. Most of the people, I decide who lives and who dies just by the tone
of their voice.
This is getting nowhere with the girl at the dance club so I tell her, Kill yourself..."

>>731337618
You ever get a caller then cover the receiver with your hand and say "hey guys I got a live one here. Place your bets". Then place odds on caller survivability?

I tried calling a suicide hotline once but they were busy with other people. I hung up after about 30 mins of waiting

>>731337618
who do you call?

>>731339682
Well I mean its not my job, and you really sound like you need a hug jesus fuck

>>731339777
not op but i know youre full of shit

>>731339806
Im usually ok lol, but I do have a therapist

>>731339777
I'm pretty sure you can sue for that

>>731339814
Hugs are for pussies too, anon. I don't think you talked to most these scumbags. Most are weak, I've been through alot of shit in my life and im here because i, again, am not a fucking pussy.

>>731339739
Ah no, gonna pass on trying that too

>>731340031
They act like this world isn't filled with pain. They act like no one could be as depressed. Unless you have a medical condition that gives you depression, you can fuck off with the "i want attention syndrome".

>>731340236
> You can fuck off with the "i want attention syndrome".

The irony truly is lost on you, isn't it?

>>731339658

I see. You ever browse the suicide threads here on /b/ and try to help?

>>731340031
I have had 30 people kill themselves not related to the hotline. I cut for 2 years and almost got killed paying back drug dealers. My girlfriend killed her self and said I was the reason. I have been through shit too, but instead of being el macho tough guy and calling people pussies like an incompetent baby asking for attention I decided to save lives you cock twiddling fuck, now go do something productive or let your kidneys fail you alcohol abusing fuck

>>731339927
That can legit happen in like small towns. Happened to me before too.

>>731340334
Sometimes

>>731340331
This is your thread, im simply responding, Im not seeking shit moral fag.
And the reason im depressed is because of a medical condition. Having breakdowns for no reason. But guess who isn't dead???

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>>731340439
respect

>>731339682
Is it? What if you're no good to anyone? Everyone's life would be better without you. Your girlfriend loves you, but you're just holding her back with your bullshit. You're parents adore you, but you'll always need them 100 times more than they need you. You're just a waste of resources. What little you contribute to this world is just a redundancy. You're not unique. You might as well just be a ticket taker at movie theater or a librarian. Soon you will be replaced by a robot. All that debt from college is the only thing you're really slaving away for. To pay off your degree. You and the thousands of others with the same degree and aspirations. What are you really living for? Do you really owe the world that money back? They promised you hoverboards. You got Netflix and chill.

>>731340236
Is your favorite game Shadow the Hedgehog?

>>731340591
You know how else isn't dead? The people I've stopped from killing themselves

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>>731339682

>>731340439
I don't drink dumbass, and a alcoholic and excessive drinker are two different things. Have fun fag. Your acting like i haven't dealt with suicide from pussies. Shit, they where all weak in the head.

>>731340710
How do you know?

>>731340837
You sound pretty weak in the head too. Especially with all of that compensation.

>>731338191
>Waaaaah i have a shitty life because I'm a pathetic sack of shit
>im not a pussy guys!! Honest!!
>youre all a bunch of special snowflakes!! Waaaaaaaaaah!!

Shut the fuck up.
Kill yourself.
You have no value whatsoever.
End your existence.
Nobody likes you, nobody will remember you, and nobody will ever feel any kind of pity towards you.
Your life is a mistake. You were an accident gone horribly wrong.

Die in a fire, you fucking waste of sperm.

>>731340837
That alcohol scrambled your brain lol

>>731340918
Some of them have given me a way to contact them. Just to watch over them. Like a personal therapist, and they are still alive

>>731340710
But have you really? At best you delayed it, or they were never going to do it. When I tried to check out I didn't first call a hotline. What would be the point? Waah the world's a horrible place and I don't matter.... You listen to wankers and think you're saving them. It's like a murder hotline. If I was serious about murdering someone I wouldn't call you to have you talk me out of it. That's just silly.

>>731340978
This, to be honest familia.

>>731341120
You missed out on my response to >>731340918

Should I kill myself? A corpse can't disappoint anyone.

>>731337618
Why even bother? World has a severe overpopulation problem and if enough people off themselves this problem would be solved already.

The second thing is. Do we really need the genes from these depressed failed humans that only eat up our recources and do not benefit us in any way?

>>731340533
What do you think of those Psychology with Alice threads?

>>731341328
Yes. Please do. Nobody wants you here, you miserable sack of shit.

>>731337618

Yep. Just for school credit/volunteer? Right. Had a cunt end the call because I was too "aggressive" and talked too long. So, I called back. Supervisor was put on, and I unleashed my rage on him. Said I knew where they were located and would be there shortly. Nobody cares. Fuck people.

>>731341328
What parts of yourself do you find disappointing? Or do you believe you are disappointing someone, if so, who? how?

>>731337618

Did you have to do any special training / have to pass any background checks to be able to get the job? Also, are you alone or with other people on other calls (room wise)?
You are doing god's work, keep it up, they need you.

>>731341383
I'm not looking at this from a world view. I just want to help people.

>>731337618
How often do you get 4chan users calling?

>>731340591
You're retarded. Depression IS a medical condition. It's something in the brain that doesn't work like normal people. Like any other mental illness. I guess psychotic people are special snowflakes as well.

>>731337618
do you honestly believe everyone's life has value?

>>731341527
They asked me questions on my morals and how I viewed people, and they asked about previous work, and experiences with deaths, and I had basic training

>>731341682
Everyones life has value, some just dont have enough

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>>731341669
Well I can't pick out 4chan users but if you're asking about prank calls I get about 5-6 a night

>>731341281
Those are the wankers I was talking about. The ones who were never intending on doing it. They were scared they might, but that's a completely different thing. When you try to kill yourself you're not scared of doing it, that happens later. A "what the fuck was I thinking" moment. It's not like an addiction. Although it sounds like those people who leave information with you so you can "save" them are a sort of addict. Co-dependant little attention whores. It's no better than people who go on /b/ to threaten to kill themselves. If they're serious they're going to do it. If they're not then they just want attention. As opposed to witnesses.
Does this job make you feel less useless? Like you've accomplished something with that liberal arts degree?

>>731342123
>myhousehaswheels.txt

>>731341458
I have no will to live, that in itself is a disappointment to anyone who has ever invested anything in me. I make $11 an hour and i suck at my barely-above-minimum wage job, disappointing my boss who's bent over backwards to help me with everything. I don't have any sort of social life, so I'll never have kids, disappointing my parents. There's nobody else in my life. I've disappointed them all. I even disappoint myself. I have 2 overdrawn checking accounts, but my anxiety is bad enough that i can't even call the banks to resolve it. I haven't had hot water in my apartment for more than a week but I can't call my landlord to get that sorted, either. I honestly feel like everyone who cares about me would be relieved if I was gone.

>>731342123
I have an engineering degree lmao. But anyways thats kinda the point of a suicide hotline. To help defuse those moments of fear people get because if they aren't then they go through. Man you are one big fucking idiot aren't you. Why even bother with this thread. Not a single person supports you just piss off. Go to the shed and grab that rope

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>>731341908
That jpg is just lazy

>>731341383
Nobody likes the truth. But this is it.

>>731341682
Nobody has any value. We are all just bags of flesh. Humans have deluded themselves into believing that they are something special, but we're no different than insects. I have no pity for others, either. Death means absolutely nothing. Life means absolutely nothing.

>>731341878
so a rapist or a pedophile's life has value?

>>731342270
Keep in mind that you have a job, the bottom isn't upon you yet. Cut some spending sort out your money problems and fix your tangible problems before your social. It will be hard but I believe in you. You probably don't believe me but most everyone misses dead people forever even subconsciously. Once you fix your money work on your life, find someone who cares but be wary of those who exploit you. I believe you can make it through

>>731342682
Yes but not enough to be passable, and enough to deserve anything good.

>>731342566
Artificial value and value we create is still value

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>>731342843
Right, but I don't want to do any of those things. I want to die. I would contribute more to the world as worm-food. At least that's a contribution.

>>731341586
>I'm not looking at this from a world view. I just want to help people.

So in your view the world and all the people on it are not important as long as you feel good helping one person who has a negative impact in the big picture?

Here is you:
Over 7.5 billion people, lets keep them all alive even if some don't want to live and also lets keep them using resources and buying meds and products so someone can make a profit out of their misery a bit longer. I did so good today and will surely go to heaven now because i'm a good person and helped people.

>>731342682
>life
yes, what if it was hate rape?

>>731343322
Be above that. Everyone is gonna be worm food, so be more then everyone. If you want to be worm food then please be happy worm food

>>731343075
No it isnt. In the grand sceme of things, everything is meaningless. I am looking at things from a higher perspective than you. I know it may be difficult for you to understand, but at least try. Life and creation is nothing more than an endless cycle of monotony

>>731338191
Alcohol abuse? Cool. My father was an alcoholic. Beat the shit out of me and my mom up until the day I knocked his fucking lights out and never looked back. Fuck alcohol you drunk prick, it brings out the absolute worst in people.

>>731343521
What could possibly make me happier than eating a bullet?

>>731343551
you're the one that either needs to off himself, or get past the nihilism stage.

>>731343478
Not everything is a big dramatic stoner corporate plot. Not everything is scheme. I don't care about over population, I just want others to be happy and live as they do. I'm not religious either I'm just a good person you damn cynic

>>731343551
No I understand what you are seeing, but if I can't impact the grand scheme then why pay it any mind

>>731343478
The people he saves are drops of water in a desert of death. While it is good to consider what is best for society as a whole and to take action as a society based on what will benefit most people, if you only act altruistically on an individual level, you cannot preserve enough lives to make a dent in the world population. He does what he can for who he can, in my moral code this is respectable, but we all interpret what is good and what is evil differently.

>>731343671
Love, friends, power, fucking drugs. But you don't have to resort to death, what does it solve

>>731338367
So that's probably a lie but if not, are you obligated to report fucked up shit like this to the authorities? Anything come of it?

>>731343955
Respect to you

>>731343687
Oh, shut the fuck up. You can't deny reality, and the reality is that everything returns to nothing in the end. This is the only way you can truly go through life.

It's time to face facts and grow the fuck up.

>>731344029
>what does it solve

Literally all of my problems

>>731344029
what does living until 80 and dying of cancer solve?

I know of lots of people who died miserable at an old age. I've seen life be super unkind to some genuinely great people. Where was their justice? Why didn't life get all titties and sunshine for them?

>>731343932
What do you mean by that, exactly?

>>731344038
You report it to supervisors and I assume they find out what happened via authorities. I didn't hear anything about it (I do live in a pretty high crime city) and thank you for bashing and assuming one of my most traumatic experiences didn't happen

>>731343551
Of course it's all meaningless, anon, but why think of it that way? That only serves to hinder you. Even though true free will doesn't exist, and the decisions you make that turn you into what you are as a person are primarily determined by your genetic predispositions and environmental factors (especially those affecting you in childhood,) believing this does not bring gain to you in the same way that recognizing that value is arbitrarily imposed on things by humans does not bring gain to you. Buy in to the misconception on the surface so that you can prosper, but always be aware of the truth.

>>731344343
If I can't impact the universe in a big way then why should I care about impacting it. I'd rather just focus on myself and others not making the fucking world change

>>731338853
some faggot cant handle a bit of pain lol

>>731344347
You're welcome and fuck you, and also you are a faggot for not following up with concrete evidence for our collective amusement.

>>731338102
>>731338680
Take some anti insulin

>>731344583
Because it's a beautiful diversion, anon. Live like an Epicurian and you will become the true übermensch.

Please, god~... save me~?

>>731340978
this

>>731344297
Im not saying you have to live long, just long enough to be satisfied with something you are happy with. You shouldn't die until you find something to make you happy, and until that thing has given you enough, for most people they dont get enough of what makes them happy so they live to the end

>>731344583
Or better still, creating an entire world of your own.

>>731344663
nah, he's too much of a pussy right now.
a bit of insulin would toughen him up.

>>731344820
You ok?

>>731344250
So then what? What after death?

>>731345047
Lol, no~.
My joints hurt when I move.
And I'm too poor to afford it.
Like, 25k needed~. I think.

>>731344960
so killing yourself is cool after you've found something that made you happy? lol jokes be abound tonight

>>731344625
Well what exactly do you want from me

>>731338407
You're the guy that goes around blaming the world for your problems, aren't you?

>>731345136
Hopefully nothing. If there's an afterlife I'm fucked.

>>731337618
OP, I've been reading this thread and you seem like a genuinely nice person that cares about other people.

And that's super unfortunate, because the world is gonna rip your fucking guts out for caring and being nice.

But I wish you godspeed.

When you let people ask you questions about your side job and nihilists start yelling at you for being productive

>>731345334
And if there is? What will you do?

>>731345645
well if he offs himself (and there is an afterlife), he'll be in hell.

So...like he said, he'll be fucked.

>>731345323
If I were you I'd be all like, "Hey supervisor, what happened with this xx case with the xx dead girl." Stuff like that is talked about conversationally within the workplace all the time, even when confidentiality forbids it. Then you relay the information here, anecdotally and anonymously, while we jack off to the image of preteen suicide. What's so hard to understand?

>>731337618
Have you ever felt like a caller's problems were too trivial to consider suicide over?

>>731345747
What if its not hell. What if perhaps an empty void leaving him to think. Wont he just be saddened worse

>>731345645
Depends on what it consists of, mostly. Hopefully I'll be able to opt out. Get to heaven and eat a heaven bullet or something.

>>731343955
I changed only two words. Now imagine it was about SS officer killing jews in his spare time in occupied Poland during WW2.

>The people he _kills_ are drops of water in a desert of death. While it is good to consider what is best for society as a whole and to take action as a society based on what will benefit most people, if you only act altruistically on an individual level, you cannot _end_ enough lives to make a dent in the world population. He does what he can for who he can, in my moral code this is respectable, but we all interpret what is good and what is evil differently.

>>731345850
Sometimes but that doesn't stop me from trying to help

>>731345812
Stop trying to be so edgy

>>731345885
well if it IS just an empty void, then everyone will eventually reach that void, so what's the difference really? Short life/long life, you get the void.

>>731345812
One, I don't want to know, what don't I already know. Two no, thats wrong that isn't conversational. Three, seek help

>>731346062
But wouldn't you much rather be happy in the void then worrying about what you could've been

>>731346163
I don't know how to get help without paying out of pocket.

>>731346377
Lol call a hotline

>>731339682
Talking about weakness while being stupid enough to get addicted to alcohol and you clearly just wanted attention by posting your story about your weakness snowflake when no one asked.

>>731346503
I don't want to kill myself, I want to witness all horrors of the world and the human condition. I don't think there are hotlines for that. I think either I need lots of therapy or no therapy at all. I go back and forth between which conclusion is correct.

>>731346295
You won't be happy if there isn't an afterlife (which seems pretty likely,) anon, because the processes in your brain that cause the sensation of happiness will no longer occur. You will simply not exist, you won't be aware of your condition. You have one chance to live however you see fit (in reality, however your genes and environment have taught you to see fit, but it's more profitable not to think of it in this way.) You could still be any number of things, anon. You're never stuck in anything.

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Ever think of just answering

>Pizza Hut, pickup or delivery?

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why shouldn't i kill myself right now

>>731346764
'Cause I need to watch things die,
From a distance
Viiicariiiousssly

>>731347006
Im sorry if Im not debating well, its 1:30 and I didn't really come to talk about morality and the afterlife I just wanted to answer questions

>>731347126
why should you is a better question

>>731347135
Not death. I'm interested in depravity. All of the things that polite society says are not normal but which people covet in the wee hours.

>>731347224
I'm not the guy who you were talking with earlier. East coast too?

OP here, gotta sleep soon, threads open for 5 more minutes bonus points for actual questions instead of arguing morals

>>731344038
Fag.

>>731347766
Yea

>>731347689
It's a song, mate. I think what you're experiencing is natural morbid/forbidden curiosity. Nothing wrong with that in moderation and without action.

Night night

>>731347807
What are the bullet points for conversation, trying to talk someone down from suicide. What tips do you have for others, when their friends/people irl are seriously considering it.

>>731347900
>It's a song, mate.
Oh.

>I think what you're experiencing is natural morbid/forbidden curiosity. Nothing wrong with that in moderation and without action.
What about if I occasionally ruin people's lives to observe the results?

>>731347807
Have you successfully brought someone in a really desperate state back from the brink of their own destruction?

>>731337618
How do i go about getting a job like yours?

>>731348678
OP doesn't have a job, he does this on an intermittent volunteer basis supplemented by sucking dicks in between.