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Expert or shill?

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Expert or shill?
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Comedian.
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Bullshit artist
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He's a TV cuck with an ancient Bachelor's degree.

Shill.
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>>731271515
this
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>>731271608
This
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>>731271420
Rekt
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>>731271195
Can't get any more shill Cuck then Bill Nye
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>>731271420
Having more degrees than someone doesn't the other person automatically unqualfied.

>>731271515
Another claim without an argument, you mad? An old bachelors degree doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's also making more money than you by doing what he likes.
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Edutainment.

He's a shill that forgot people liked him when all he did was talk about science to a casual observer, not the spectrum of genders.
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>>731271195
>Expert or shill?

Celebrity
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>>731271195
Liberal shill
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>>731271195
Shill
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someone is paying the OP to post these
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>>731271763
He's also contradicted himself.
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A TV presenter who doesn't even claim to be a scientist.
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>>731271763
>triggered
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>>731271896

Let me guess, you didn't bother fact checking that two-panel meme that's going around? kek
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>>731271896
Show me, prove it
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most of the replies in these threads are bots
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>>731271896

This>> >>731271981
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Listen you fucks! You better stop this and stop this now!!! What next?!!?!
Mr. Wizard wasn't
...really
...a
...wizard!?!?!!?!!?
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>>731271195

Thank you. Another $0.05 has been deposited into you account.
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>>731272031
sauce?
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>>731272075

B-but he's saying he is literally a wizard! He's a LIAR! I'm going to dedicate my time to telling people this on a chinese cartoon forum, they need to know!!
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>>731271981
Why do people get so triggered if this >>731271420 was not demonstrably true?
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>>731271195

I'm sure his old degree in mechanical engineering DOES qualify him to speak expertly on anthropogenic global warming and the spectrum of hundreds of genders. He realizes, now, that he was wrong in the past when he incorrectly said that "gender is determined by chromosomes."
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>>731272075

Mr. Wizard > Nye
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>>731272271
Because it's a logical fallacy.

Same thing is that if I said I have more degrees than you, everything you say is invalid
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Holy fuck, the anti-sjw's are so hypersensitive about everything that might challenge their narrow worldview.
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>>731271304
That's where Liberals are getting their information from.
John Oliver Bill Maher Bill Nye etc..
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>>731271195
Bill Nye the Sciencey Guy
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>>731271195
Expert in some areas. Follows scientific method, and knows how to properly follow science and peer reviewed studies.

Like any scientist would.
For example, Carl sagan, a lot of his work, was based off the sciene known up to that point.
Thing is, the people of the internet think they know everything, and follow blind knowledge. Leading people into all sorts of different directions, which some contradict what Billy boy says.
Everyone is am expert on the internet, don't you know that?
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>>731272379
It's a meme you dip. It has more truth than anything you're saying. Crying "logical fallacies" does not make what you've previously said more solid.
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>>731271763
You're working pretty hard to defend him.

Triggered much?
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>>731272483
this is so off the fucking map it's not even wrong
just a series of nonsequiturs
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>>731272722
Nice bait and switch, I'm just stating facts
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>>731271763
I'm not sure how you're simultaneously employing an appeal to authority bias while also claiming education isn't proportionate to expertise.

Dat leftist dissonance.
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>>731272271

Not that one, the supposed quote from the 90s. Bill Nye isn't a scientist nor does he claim to be so there's no problem with the fact Dolph is more qualified.
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>>731271195
A sell out
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>>731272954

How?
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>>731271195
back to /pol/ with you faggot

this is now a gay tornado thread
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>>731272689
It actually does, but go ahead keep hiding behind the fact of it being a meme

>>731272857
How am I appealing to an authority? That's literally what the other party is doing and I'm debunking it. Succesfully.

Dat rightist dissonance.
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>>731271420
so?

Hes still infinitely more educated and intelligent than you are sitting on 4chan wasting your lives complaining about his.
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>>731272335
you fucking autist, he also says that was how science viewed genders until recently
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>>731271195
Those who can't do, teach.
Shill.
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>>731272857
The only "fact" you quoted was that he outearns me. Which makes sense seeing how he's a famous TV personality. The rest has been an equivalent of plugging your ears and screaming nananancanthearyounananana.

The fact remains that he has nowhere near enough formal education to tout the level of expertise he sells, and he has done nothing in recent years besides hop in the sensationalized leftist collective as a desperate way to scrape his way back into relevance.

Sry bout ur pbs memories tho
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>>731273144

Are you saying all teachers are shills?
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>>731272722
> get super upset over an entertainer
> LOL U MAD BRO
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>>731273144
>Those who can't do, teach.
Except he used to work for Boeing and invented a patented device that is still in use.

I think Bill can do.
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Lernin is 4 dum librals, if it not in the bibal den it not tru
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100% cuck one of the worst on tv. Right behind this idiot.
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>>731273174
heres a thought. If you have a degree in science and you read studies, you are qualified to tell about what those studies said.
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>>731273174
So? He still makes more than us combined tho, also you replied to the wrong post.

And to your other childish nonsense: what, and no, just no. I think you need to stop hitting the crackpipe
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>>731273103
No it doesn't. If we were being technical, I'm convinced you are committing some logical fallacy somewhere in your posts.
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>>731273321
More then even John Oliver?
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Put Bill Nye and Alex Jones in a room together and I can guarantee you the 'science guy' will be shown for the complete fraud that he is.
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>>731273416
Alright, if you can point it out to me and prove it I'd be happy to correct myself, but I don't see any right now. Please enlighten me
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>>731271195
Not even a scientist/10
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>>731271420
fookin rekt m8
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>>731272670
It takes about a 1st grade education to know that there is 2 genders....
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>>731273492
Fraud?
He spouts out shit about science. How is science fraudulent? If you don't accept his claims and trachings, then by all means go prove him wrong by studying his science and build upon it or falsifying it. He won't be angry, scientist love to be proven wrong because it leads to answers.
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>>731273863
Confusing gender with biological sex is the most common problem here
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>>731273492
Why? He did a pretty good job of making Tucker Carlson look pretty retarded; imagine what he'll do with someone whose idea of winning an argument is to shout so his opponent can't be heard
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>>731273114
I have a political science degree from Northeastern University, does this mean that I can go practice medicine? It's the same thing right?
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>>731273714
Is engineer/10
is science communicator/10
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>>731273931
How people feel about themselves is irrelevant. People either have gender dysphoria or they are a transtrender ( a gay person who likes to wear the opposite sex is closed and has no intention on transitioning whatsoever)
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>>731273552
Confirmation bias. If the credentials of Nye and Lundgren were reversed, you would be talking of how overwhelmingly qualified Nye is. Which he obviously is not. And I haven't even read your other posts, because we're anonymous. You most likely have made other blunders.
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>>731274002
No, it isn't. Mechanical engineering is a STEM subject (like medicine), so people qualified in it would have an appreciation of many scientific subjects and be able to talk intelligently about them, whereas Political "Science" is a bullshit degree with no practical value, as politics is not a science.
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>>731271763
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>>731274197
I agree with you about feelings being irrilevant, yet gender dysphoria and transgenders are just labels just like any other gender. Gender is something differently from biological sex. It's not really hard to understand, they're just labels, we label shit all the time.
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>>731273321
What's wrong with Jimmy Fallon?
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>>731274539

It IS hard to understand! Shut up cuck!!!
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He is Anti-White piece of shit SJW cunt
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>>731274258
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>>731271195
God.
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>>731271195
An enthusastic amature for the most part but one trying to encourage the childern that grew up watching his show.

Nice idea, but honestly kinda overhyped.

Had a few ok bits in the first two episodes and some crap, the way he managed his "panel of experts" was kinda clumsy.
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>>731274744

What's anti-white about that?
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>>731271195
Shill
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>>731274951
implying that we're equal to the moors
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>>731274958
imagine being angry enough about an entertainer to do cartoons about him.
Rightist are so extremely sensitive its just glorious.
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How is a guy that repairs shitty air-planes suddenly "the science guy". An engineer knows nothing of the issues that he is talking bout. And that is all he is; an engineer.
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>>731275257
>Angry

No just disappointed how at what big of a fraud Bill Nye is
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>>731271875
I get the same vibe.
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>>731275257
He's already a walking cartoon. And being annoyed is not the same as being sensitive.
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>>731271195

supported him. until he supported gmos. now hes a retard
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>>731275406
This thread is posted every other day where rightist go on and on about how sad they are that this person is on TV, its snowflakes throwing temper-tantrums.
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>>731275696
How do you know these people, or whether they're on "the right" or "the left"?
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>>731273552
God that's a show I'd watch, two idiotic shills in one room throwing confirmation bias and fallacy at each other. Maybe it would teach people that if it's published by a major media outlet it's all propaganda from the get go and they'd let go of this moronic left/right dichotomy and think for themselves.
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>>731275935
> shill
> liberal shill
> cuck
> cuck
> cuck
> cuck

you tell me
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>>731271195
Neither. Murder.

Nigger killed his whole career with one Netflix series.
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>>731274951
Where is White or Asian Man?
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>>731275179
You do know that term was used for Muslims?
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literal shilling a solar company in which he was an early investor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8fKlfcA7E
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>>731276449
Well he never had that good career to begin with
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>>731271195
> ultra shill
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>>731276259
That's a few of them. There's probably hundreds on here right now.
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>>731271195
>Shill Nye the quit his day job to focus on his Comedy Guy
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>>731276691
hes a household name, season 2 is coming, millionaire and youre literally diskussing him right now, I think hes doing fine
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>>731276703
This is like posting that oranges have more vitamin C than apples.

It's irrelevant, but inferring a criticism for the hard of thinking to pick up on
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>>731277180
Confirmation bias. That meme is as relevant to the topic as can be.
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>>731277410
>Confirmation bias
Ah, I see that your sockpuppet master has taught you a new phrase - I suppose it sounds more intelligent then "fake news".

Let's see if you understand it. How is my comparison of the vitamin C levels in two common fruit more of a confirmation bias than the comparison of qualification levels of two celebrities?
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>>731271195
Come on! Bow Tie, head in a vice, talks smart, cares about the planet. Guy has gotta be a science master with that kind of cred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8&t=8s
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>>731271195
Technically less qualified to be a scientist than most people would care to admit.
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He's an expert at being a shill
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>>731277694
How about getting back to the original context instead of classic diversion tactics ShillAnon?

Why the fuck is a guy with a BD in Mechanical Engineering being sighted as an "expert" on topics ranging from environment to biology, and even greenlit for a show on topics he is underqualified to teach on?
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>>731273239
>"LOL" "U" "MAD" "BRO"
subhuman detected
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>>731277999
> trips-o-truth

Game over boys.. Conversation is over.
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>>731277694
You were the one throwing around the word "inferring" when you could have just said "suggesting."
This is the most frustrating part of debating with strangers. They accuse you of being pretentious, even though they themselves are, without having any knowledge of you or your background; and then they accuse you of being elementary when you use ordinary language.
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>>731278050
> literal retard detected
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He knows engineering I guess
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>>731271195
Shill. The fucker only has a bachelor's of science. His status as a kiddie scientist has gone to everyone's head.
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>>731278009
So, you can't back up your claim of "confirmation bias", so you trot out the next expression on your sockpuppet master's playbook - "diversion tactics"

>Why the fuck is a guy with a BD in Mechanical Engineering being sighted as an "expert" on topics ranging from environment to biology, and even greenlit for a show on topics he is underqualified to teach on
Because Bill is a science communicator; I doubt that he would ever claim expertise in all the subjects he presents on, but, as he is STEM qualified, he will be able to understand many of the basic principles. In his new show there will be a panel of subject experts who will help Bill to develop the matter to be presented and to make sure it is scientifically accurate. Unsurprisingly, most science shows, even if presented by the likes of Brian Cox, have a panel of experts to help compile the material.

What you and fellow alt-right shills are doing is elevating Bill to the status of "expert" (a basic strawman tactic) and then attacking your creation to try to destroy the credibility of the message he is conveying.

Oh, and one more thing. In that context it's "cited" not "sighted"

Time for the next line in your playbook. And it's clear you didn't understand the relevance of my fruit comparison.
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>>731278601
Don't get me wrong, Global warming is bad
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>>731271981
let me guess, you "fact-checked" that two-panel meme by going to snopes.com?
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>>731278701
You're mixing up anons, and you sound like a fool.
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>>731271195
More of an expert than everyone in this cancerous thread
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>>731278475
>netflix show discussing science

gendered ice cream numbnuts
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>>731278475
>>731278432
>>731277885
>>731277694
>>731277180

I don't back anyone who talks out of their ass without pragmatic experience in a field, or proven success.
Nye is a great ENGINEER.. He's a shitty everything else.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/22/watch-bill-nye-blows-gasket-when-a-real-scientist-schools-him-on-facts-about-climate-change/amp/

He doesn't understand basic biology, psychology, or credible climate science.

Btw.. Keep in mind pic related kiddies.
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>>731278009
His supporters always fail to answer these simple questions. Or they hide behind the claim that everything he says is backed up by "qualified scientists."
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>>731273888
except if you've watched his show, there is almost no science involved and a lot of ridicule of people who don't accept his viewpoints. I get it, bill nye and the left are far superior people, but you don't "save the world" through ridicule. that only further polarizes people. if you want to "save the world", you need to show people some evidence, and teach them why they are wrong.
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>>731271420
LMFAO this is fucking false. God damn anti-nye shills. At least get your information right.
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>>731278432
>You were the one throwing around the word "inferring" when you could have just said "suggesting.
Actually you're right - infer is incorrect; I should have used "implied"
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>>731278701
> fruit comparison
> also pointing out grammatical errors

Petty little libtarded sjw aren't you?
Arguing loudly from mommies basement or daddy paid for dorm room.

Nye fucked up when he opened that series with multigendered frozen foods.
He has been getting brutalized now that people expect him to back up his assertions. Even Tucker Carlson got the better of him! Kek

http://www.dailywire.com/news/13954/9-reasons-you-shouldnt-listen-bill-nye-about-aaron-bandler

He needs to take a step back and research a topic more thoroughly before beaking off.
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>>731278887
>confirmation bias
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>>731279318

the only part that's wrong is that dolph only spent one year at washington as an exchange student.
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>>731274258
engineering is not the same thing as science. a mechanical engineer does not possess nearly the same foundational understanding of the universe as say, a climate scientist, or a biology major would. engineering is based on scientific priniciples, but "science" is a very broad and encompassing term. i guarantee you bill nye did not study chromosomes, or weather systems, or anatomy, while learning how to make a fuel pump.
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>>731272738
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>>731271195
He is an expert shill.
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>>731274945
>>encourage the childern

yes this is certainly what he thinks of the viewers of his show. he certainly talks to them as if they haven't aged a day from when his original show was on the air.
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>>731271195
He's a fucking celebrity being used to push the Luciferian agenda.
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>>731279529
That's a big difference, spending one year at WSU and Clemson vs BS in chemistry at WSU

Shills never bother with facts, should've expected
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>>731279338
Suggesting IS the same as implying. Are you this retarded, and did you comprehend my entire post?
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>>731279318
> learn to research

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolph_Lundgren

Dolphs I.Q. is Mensa level.
Been a known fact for decades.

Nyes underqualifications.. Also well documented.
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>>731272857
I came when i read this
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>>731279514
I'm the one who said that; not the other anon.
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>>731272857
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https://youtu.be/hGlDVmBLibg

https://youtu.be/4e6h4zLC5U8

He's an actor.

>Listen to Neil deGrasse Tyson for 20 minutes
>Understand astrophysics is the opposite physics
>Understand NGT is a paid actor, professional bullshitter
>Lick the tears of Star Trek nerds.

>Look into Stephen Hawking
>Realize Hawking was diagnosed with ALS when he was 21, wasn't expected to live until his 25th birthday.
>Realize Hawking is now 75 years old, except he doesn't look like the same person.
>Could very easily just be some random cripple strapped to a wheelchair with some other assholes talking with text to speech.
>Tears begin to fall by everyone.
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>>731273931
Biological sex and gender are the same thing.
You are the problem here
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>>731274641
I know science is hard, but let's start from the top. Psychology and biology are intertwined and both are capable of changing the other. Epigenetic studies show how these changes even make their way into our genetic code. Abused as a child? That goes in your genetic code. Raised in a warm climate? So does that. Further, the way one's brain develops, and their entire identify, form as a culmination of genetics and environment. In the case of being transgender, it means that not all genetic ques are aligned with their social gender identity. This could be purely genetic or it could be a combination of things. Given time, we should be able to pinpoint such discrepancies within the brain. In fact, I believe we've already begun to.
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>>731280265
So transgender people are just what, looking for attention? People thought the same thing about being gay.
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>>731271195
His career is over now.
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bill nue the communist guy is a fucking faggot and he needs to die.
Thats how everybody thinks expect the extreme left.
Deal with it
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>>731280496
Yes.
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>>731280288
> claims people spontaneously evolve to the point of altering ingrained genetics
> posts zero sources

You would get a Nobel Prize if you could prove that bullshit.
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>>731278987
Have you read the qualifications of the scientist?
>William "Will" Happer (born July 27, 1939) is an American physicist who has specialized in the study of atomic physics, optics and spectroscopy. He is the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics, Emeritus, at Princeton University, and a long-term member of the JASON advisory group, where he pioneered the development of adaptive optics

So he's specialised in optics, not climate science, and is as qualified as Bill on the subject.

Here's another scientist who supports the CO2 theory that Happer denigrates
>http://www.blastr.com/2017-5-1/all-fake-news-thats-fit-print-why-new-york-times-printing-climate-science-denial
Phil Platt has a PhD in Astrophysics

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEGHW6Lbu8
Dr Brian Cox is a Fellow of the Royal Society and and Professor of particle physics in the School of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Manchester

>http://www.climatechangenews.com/2016/08/18/brian-coxs-sceptic-takedown-a-low-point-for-climate-journalism/
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>>731280638
It's not my responsibility to make sure you're well informed. If you can't stay on top of scientific discovery/debate than I have no reason to talk to you.
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>>731280496
they are mentally ill with sky high suicide rates.

indulging their mental illness does not reduce suicide rates in longitudinal studies over 30 fricken years.
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>>731271195
hero among men
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>>731280496
Have you ever met a faggot?
Half the time they ARE attention whores.

As for the transgendered.. If they are mentally healthy and well adjusted.
Why is their suicidality rate so high even when in an accepted local and a convincing transition?
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>>731280825
I'm sorry, but are you aware that correlation doesn't equate to causation? Because you don't seem to be.
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>>731271420
Dear god lel this triggers the commies
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These idiots can't even come up with a simple
anti-graviton prime mover for basic interstellar
travel, but they can provide complicated explanations on why faggots become traps.
I'm NEVER coming back to this alternate past ever again!
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>>731279876
Top kek you went to Wikipedia yet you didn't bother to see that he didn't get a BS from Washington state
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>>731279960
>confirmation bias
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>>731280808
In other words.. You're full of shit.
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Wait I'm confused, who is he shilling for exactly?
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>>731271420
420 get
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>>731280288
Thats not how genetics works at all.
Those who survive pass on their genes those who do not survive do not.
Genetics do not respon to stimuli in one life. They do so over the course of generations through those whom survive and pass on traits that allow their offspring to survive.
If you ever post something so fucking retarded again i'm gonna fucking find you and hurt you. Never in my life have I ever read such bullshit.
You can't make shit up just to say it's okay to be a faggot.
>getting abused as a child is part of your gentic code.
God fucking dammit I honestly wish you were abused as a child for posting somthing that fucking dumb.
Please tell me you are trolling please.
If you are then 8/8 great bait my friend because I am furious with you
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>>731280896
i'd like to introduce you to my friend non sequitur.
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>>731280867
>Have you ever met a faggot?
I'm related to them, went to school with them, work with them, see them every day - though they don't usually answer to the term "faggot". They're also not usually attention whores and they tend to despise depictions of them in the media.

>>731281015
No, I think it just means you want to debate with the big boys but aren't ready. Here, have some dumbed down science: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160328133534.htm
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>>731271195
Shilled shill. Not only a shill, but one pushed by shills.
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>>731281211
Apparently I have to explain everything. Just because being transgender is associated with high suicide rates doesn't mean being transgender causes suicide. It's pretty basic.
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>>731280808
Actually the burden of proof lies with the one whom made the claim. The responsibilty rests soley on you.
Faggot
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Neither. He's a true believer who has experts working for him. That doesn't make him a shill any more than your priest is a shill for the church.

Shill has apparently lost all meaning here. Like cuck. Get a dictionary
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>>731280797
> you dim witted fuck

Nobody is denying climate change.
They are denying that HUMANS are the main cause. We haven't had world temperatures go up on average in over a decade.. That's why they switched from "global warming" to "climate change."
The more time that passes the stupider the envirofreaks looks.
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SHILL NYE THE SCIENCE GOY
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>>731281468
Shill Nye the communist guy*
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>>731281377
The burden of proof doesn't apply here. It's a fun keyword to throw around when you want to sound like you know the things you don't though. Also check >>731281249 and maybe try lurking more.
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>>731280288
In communist Russia they believed that. It's not true. Although your DNA can become damaged humans unlike cephalopods cannot rewrite their DNA or RNA without using viruses.
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>>731280955
> whoops

Muthafucka is STILL more qualified then Nye as both a scientist AND an entertainer. Kek
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>>731271195
Expert, TV Personality. Educated.
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>>731281538
>The burden of proof doesn't apply to me when i make bullshit claims because I said so
What fucking universe do you live in?
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>>731279769
thats fucking hilarious
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>>731279848
>the difference between suggest and imply is not always clear, though suggest often connotes the necessity of delicate perception and imply connotes the need of inference
Merriam-Webster dictionary of synonyms
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>>731271420
Actually, this information is inaccurate.

Dolph Lundgren studied at these universities, but he didn't graduate from them.

Also, doesn't make Bill Nye unqualified.

/thread
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>>731273290
Source?
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>>731281575
I'm making not making purely genetic claims. In cause you've been living under a rock, epigenetics are what determine the genetic code that is read/shared. It's not about changing the code. In other words, the code already exists, but stimuli is needed to select it for expression.
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>>731272031
im not a bot. Why assume the majority are bots? Everyone I talked to about this all agree Nye is an actor and nothing else.
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I just want to live my life without having to lose
sleep at night wondering whose cock is being pushed up what rectum. Please.
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>>731281610
Not what anybody is arguing for. Just pointing the picture is wrong. Admit it shill.
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"Hurrr durrr climate change."
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>>731281625
The one where I already gave proof but you prefer to argue about social tact on an anonymous image board.

By the way, look up burden of proof. This isn't a trial, and we're not talking about philosophy. Perhaps you meant the burden of persuasion? In which case please refer to >>731281249's second reply.
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>>731281705
No shit, retard. But in this context the two were interchangeable. Now how about returning to the topic of the thread or, better yet, leaving.
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>>731271420
Both of them are retarded since they dont know the earth is flat
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>>731281538
Your source is pure shit.
They don't go into detail at all on how it is passed down.
Stressed parens may have stressed kids?
WHAT A FUCKING GENTIC DISCOVERY GUYS WE FUCKING MADE IT! HAND OVER THAT PHD BUD WE ARE GOING TO SCIENCE TOWN.
For someone who claims to be so highly educated, you sure posted a shitty source. The first thing a scientitst does is he doesn't believe an entire branch of scientific knowledge changed based on a two paragraph article.
Give me a fucking break you homo fruitboy fairy.
I'll be here when you got some real shit to hit me with.
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>>731281447
>They are denying that HUMANS are the main cause.
The interesting this is the direct correlation between the level of CO2 and the increase in temperature

Here's a citation from the Royal Society
>https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-2/
a key quote is
>Calculations using climate models have been used to simulate what would have happened to global temperatures if only natural factors were influencing the climate system. These simulations yield little warming, or even a slight cooling, over the 20th century. Only when models include human influences on the composition of the atmosphere are the resulting temperature changes consistent with observed changes.

There's other supporting evidence.

Unsurprisingly, I consider you to be the dim-witted one
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>>731281447
> hey guys lets risk the entire planet on the off chance that 99% of scientist are wrong and we´re not causing it.

how are you even mentally capable of using a keyboard
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>>731282015
>But in this context the two were interchangeable
I was the one using them - I think I know the context. imply is much more insidious then suggest, imo

>Now how about returning to the topic
OK
>>731282187
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>>731282347
You are a literal shill, aren't you?
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>>731282164
>Your source is pure shit
I called it dumbed down science for a reason. Why not try looking up studies on the subject before trying to debate? You're just proving my point.
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>>731281172
> well said
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>>731282662
There's always at least one shill in each of these threads.
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Attention whore with messiah complex.
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>>731282925
This
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>>731279473
>http://www.dailywire.com/news/13954/9-reasons-you-shouldnt-listen-bill-nye-about-aaron-bandler
The last part of the article makes reference to the TV meteorologist John Coleman. Coleman has a degree in journalism, no formal qualifications in meteorology (although he was granted membership of the AMS, which he subsequently left when it disagreed with his views on climate change) or climate science and is a known global warming/climate change sceptic.
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cuck https://youtu.be/xn6f8Gk5bHc
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>>731282894
>(You)
Usually the guy who starts it with the usual alt-right attack on Bill, to try to sully the ideas he presents.

OP has responded to his sock-puppet overlords and has probably been rewarded.
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He is an expert shill
Or a shill expert?
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>>731281758
Which has been more demonstrated in cephalopods as well. With humans you're talking stress in general. Being specifically molested doesn't change your code more than living under the threat of a bomb. ,the Holocaust mostly damaged DNA , it didn't greatly change the expression. That's why Holocaust survivors are dying from cancer. You're not a cuddlefish. Fucking psuedoscience

Idiot
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>>731283425
>You
What's this about?
When are you going to learn this is not a "right" or "left" issue. Pseudo-science is pseudo-science.
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>>731271420
>thinking that qualifications make people more knowledgeable on a subject

Basically, having a qualification is just a big "congratulations you successfully recited what we told you"
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>>731283654
Hitler did nothing wrong.
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Why are there 4 Bill Nye threads up? Fucking hell /b/
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>>731283654
Agreed

> the bomb didn't evolve Nips
> no matter how many b-movie monsters they come up with
> radiation doesn't work that way
> mfw if >>731281172 were correct..
> .. We would have had 30' tall Japs tentacle fucking out Pacific coast by the 1960's
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>>731283654
>That's why Holocaust survivors are dying from cancer.
I'd say they're mainly dying of old age.
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>>731284111
This
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>>731283874

Hitler did many things wrong.. He failed the third reich for fucks sake.
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>>731284062
because conservatives are so unbelievably sensitive to everything. Especially people promoting science
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Bill Nye the science cuck
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>>731271420
My sister's husband is a bioengineer with a functioning patents in everything from heart stents to nebulizers. He mostly agrees with what Bill Nye says in those episodes. What you're all forgetting is the Nye has researchers working on those episodes. He was dead on with the global warming episode. Deal with it.
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>>731284358
alt-rightist only believe in alt-facts. Thats the source of the problem.
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>>731284179
He was so scared of the Russians he killed himself like a coward
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>>731283654
Except we've shown these principles in monkeys.
You should try looking up Moshe Szyf's work. Oh, and stop pretending like everyone is an idiot.
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>>731282679
So you made a shitty arguement and then backed it up with a shitty source?
I'm glad we are in agreeance here. Lets do this again sometime.
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>>731284082
No thats not how that works at all and you are a fucking retard.
You post shows exactly how much you rely on flase logic to make an arguement and it is sad.
I hope you deny in a genetically altering fire you fucking cuck
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>>731284111
Well the ones who didn't die in their 60's and 70's from cancer at several times the rate of the general population. This is due to a combination of stress and malnutrition at an early age. Their DNA and it's expression got all fucked up. I actually did volunteer work with old Jews and this included several Holocaust survivors. I watched one die from cancer and read up on it. The Holocaust fucked them up in ways we are only beginning to comprehend now. That's why all that low calorie diet to live longer shit is considered hilarious by mainstream scientist now. When you starve a human the reaction it kicks off to preserve the brain is much different than what happens with mice.
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>>731283836
>What's this about?
I'd selected it in another post and FF seemed to remember it as a quote. I missed it when I posted. Apologies for that.

I agree with your assessment that pseudo-science is pseudo-science, but the main direction of attack on climate change is coming from the right at the moment.
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>>731284656
>I did no research
>I was surprised by a daily science article
>this person who has done research has a shitty argument
>I don't know why, but look at that shitty source I almost understood

Have fun continuing to wander through life in ignorance. I'm sure lashing out at people who just want a reasonable scientific discussion will make it all worth while.
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>>731274577
>so i went for a walk with my friend last night
>let me interrupt you right there celebrity guest hey roots play some music *the roots* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHYHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow that was one funny doozer of a joke celebrity guests did i mention that my band is the roots HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH lets play a game thats totally not rigged HZHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA (clickbait internet title) HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAH
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>>731284848
You know what's really messed up? The place I went to do all that got shot up by some Nazi dipshit. JCC in Overland Park KS. This country is depressing sometimes
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>>731283844
>Basically, having a qualification is just a big "congratulations you successfully recited what we told you"
In the arts, maybe. In STEM subjects you have to be able to use the theories learned.

Simply being able to recite Boyles Law, or Euler's buckling equations wouldn't get you a pass at degree level if you couldn't then use them to solve a problem.
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>>731271195
I support his cause, but I don't think he's a good example for young people to follow. He's certainly not a wise man, and not even particularly intelligent. He's good at making an impression on kids, though.
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>>731284814
> responding seriously to a troll joker
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>>731284932
Then why are you arguing with the poster who agrees with you if we were both pointing out he was a retard?
You must be pretty fucking stupid too.
You realise this is an anonymous image board and if you reply to a post where I am responding to someone else and you do not announce you are a different poster then people are going to assume they are hving the same conversation with the person the replied too.
Somewhere deep down in the depths of hell their is a special place reserved for someone as moronic as you
Have a nice day faggot
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>>731285085
>maybe art kekeke science=/=art
nice joke
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>>731285141
He's an engineer with a lot of real world experience. You can't claim he's not smart. Although I know this one microbiologist who breaks into rants about transexuals being the result of people believing in evolution during class. He even includes slides. I think he's in the closet. Teachers at Southwest Baptist University
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>>731285245
I'm not arguing with the poster who agrees with me, I'm arguing with the poster who called my argument shitty with nothing to back it up, then called my source shitty even though it was meant to prove a smaller mostly unrelated point.
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>>731284895
>the main direction of attack on climate change is coming from the right at the moment
That's because Bill Nye happens to be from the "left." The "left" tend to be more noisy when pushing their propaganda; even though you will take this as a biased statement. But the truth of the matter is: Bill Nye would be equally as annoying, distracting from actual science, if he had any belief, or was affiliated with any group.
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>>731279955
must've felt good to pretend all that education time was building up your mind or character instead of the opposite lmao
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>>731285548
What the fuck do i need to back up that your source is shitty?
You are so stupid you can't even figure out what you want to say.
If you show me a peice if shit and I call it a peice of shit do i need to go get a fuckting team of scientist to analyze the contents of your feces?
Your shitty article was shitty and even you agreed it was shitty. Don't get mad at me because your arguement sucks.
Make a better arguement and then we can have a discussion.
So far you have offered nothing to debate about.
The field of genetics is a relatively simple concept to understand. I explained that in a previous post so maybe you are the one who needs to lurk more
Faggot
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>>731279876
My brother is Mensa Level. Thing is he doesn't have a TV show and thus doesn't have a team of researchers working for him like Nye does. Instead he just gets through two rounds of Jeopardy tryouts every year and then doesn't get called back because he looks like Tucker Carlson with a Jewfro. Lots of people I know are literally MENSA level it doesn't make them all authorities on random scientific subjects.
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>>731285680
Stay mad cuck
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>>731280049
The Republican party is now the party of anti intellectualism and open racism.
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Lol this argument agine.listen here u fuck yards look up Michael Faraday this guy had no schooling at all was a book binder's apprentice but yet wen on to invented and study electricity and magnetism and few other things we owe our modern tech to this man but yet he had no formformal education so yeah anyone can become a scientists and change the world just look up Michael Faraday
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>>731285921
I didn't give the source to prove a point about genetics, I gave a source to prove a point about you. You know nothing of the field, and nothing of recent research. You are not someone who I feel any desire to debate with. So while you're incorrect in asserting that I gave no topics for debate: >>731280288 (loosely references 3 well known studies regarding gender classification in the brain, and all the groundwork that came before it). I later mentioned Moshe Szyf's work to someone who had an actual rebuttal.

That was more of a response than you deserved. Have a good day, and have fun with that wandering.
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>>731271420
The lead singer of Bad Religion has a PhD from Cornell in biology and teaches evolution at Berkeley. Shall we consult him?
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>>731286444
Yeah and the left is the ad hominem party.
Stay mad loser
See you in 8 years
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The "97% of scientists agree" lie:

http://joannenova.com.au/2015/03/the-97-consensus-misrepresented-miscalculated-misleading/
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>>731286522
>I didn't provide good evidence to show how bad the other person arguement was
Okay man, have fun!
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What else has 'Bill' sold us that isn't the whole scientific story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-x3Hj3lQU [Embed]
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>>731286930
Savage fucking article I'm crying with laughter
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>>731284358
>My sister's husband
>agrees with what Bill Nye says

Your brother in law believes in 48 genders?
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The "pause in global warming never existed" lie:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html

Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist has shown irrefutable evidence that the paper refuting the pause was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.
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>>731286890
Implying we will still be alive. Also the right is the ad hominem party. Trump literally insults anyone who disagrees with them instead of openly debating hem.
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>>731284955
Lol. Touché
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>>731287034
>mfw the other person didn't even have an argument
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I will post this everyday until mods chemo this board. I will post __ in threads that are gay.
take your trap threads to lgbt faggots. take your cuck threads to soc.
take your log of shit threads to 2chan take your gay ama threads to plebbit take your fb fap threads to facebook chats take your cringe threads to rk9 take your furry threads to trash take your kik threads to kik
take your ylyl threads to 9fag and I faggy
take your political discussions to pol take your pics you shouldn't share threads and kill yourself op for making this thread
It's time for a purge
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>>731287395
nice source, good science i bet

i believed in anthropogenic climate change for a while, it was believable, then i checked the sources. "reliable/credible institutions" is an oxymoron
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>>731287395
> This post tickles my coal berries
Thanks Anon!
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Global warming consensus claim does not stand up

http://richardtol.blogspot.com/2015/03/now-almost-two-years-old-john-cooks-97.html#!/2015/03/now-almost-two-years-old-john-cooks-97.html
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>>731287599
Theres nothing argue against.
Are you fucking retarded?

>GUYS GUYS 2+2 is 7 i'll prove it!
>2+2=7 seeeeeeee!!!! Scienceeeeeeee!
Fuck off faggot
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>>731287388
I said most. We don't currently know enough about the human brain to determine why some people identify as the opposite gender from an early age on without any other specific disorder. No causation known.
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>>731272483
how does a comedian delivering it make any difference? they have their information checked by experts and what not. people calling out Bill are not scientists or experts, just the alt-right because they disagree with him. what makes. any of you think that his show would be shown to millions of students in schools if what he said was false. literally the people showing the videos to students are teachers, the people who went to college and got a degree to teach it.
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everybody is being really retarded about this shit.
he's neither an expert nor a shill.
if you've seen his stuff in the past, presuming he actually understood everything he's ever said in the media he put out, he's fairly scientifically literate but it's just that recently he's been influenced cringe-worthy-amounts by neomarxist fuckery.
tl;dr he's not a qualified scientist but he's a fairly smart dude but his noodle has been fucked with by the far left
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>>731271195
when he talks about stuff i agree with, expert.
when he doesn't. shill
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>>731287660
you're way more retarded than that cat will ever be already, but I agree with the PYSS threads, it's the cancer that's killed /b/ and needs it's own subreddit.
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>>731287488
The left stared every fucking fight ever with trump with an ad hominem arguement. Name one time somebody tried to have a polite dignified adult like conversation with him about politics?
Seriously show me one. You faggots start it. He just finishes it. By being your president.
Stay mad
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>>731271672
>This
>>>731271608
>This
This
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>>731287755
I hope you're kidding.
I mean it literally, you made no argument. I made an argument. The closest you came to a rebuttal was saying that I need proof for a topic that is easily researched. I made it clear that I wanted to talk to people who knew what they were talking about. My goal is not to persuade the ignorant masses, it's to learn.
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MY SEX JUNK
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>>731271763
i Got a degree without even studying thanks to the internet.

Degrees do not mean anything anymore.
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A new Purdue University report and survey of on global warming finds that just 50 percent of scientists blame human causes, not the NASA-endorsed and widely distributed claim of 97 percent

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/purdue-just-50-not-media-hyped-97-of-scientists-blame-humans-for-climate-change/article/2556430
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>>731288186
it's not 'libs attacking trump'
it's paid actors, stop referencing MSM bs
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>>731288335
your degree does not for shure
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>>731288335
how'd you manage that?
i want an internet degree
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>>731288242
Then why the fuck are you talking about it. Clearly you wouldn't argue with people of you wern't trying ti pursade them.
You are so mad. I can feel it. I can can just see it in the way you typed that message you are beside yourself with rage. You lost and you know it.
It's okay man. Maybe you'll get em next time when you make a good arguement tiger
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>>731288745
The purpose of debate is to learn. I wanted to debate - which means finding someone qualified with an opposing view. The second you started talking about "burden of proof" I knew that wasn't you. We're still talking though, because I feel like a part of you wants to learn something too. Well, here it is, if you learned anything from our conversation: debate isn't about winning, or oneupsmanship, or any of the bullshit trolling /b/ so loves. Debate is as much a tool as the Socratic method.
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What a fucking waste of time this thread is.
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>>731287770
>We don't currently know enough
>We

Why don't you and Bill Nye Fake Scientist Guy ask a real scientist?
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CUZ MY SEX JUNK

IS SO OH OH OH
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The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html
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>>731289240
Said the faggot who brough nothing to the debate but a 2 paragraph article and said he wanted to learn something.
Dude there is an entire history of gentic knowledge that disagrees with your two paragraph article. If you wanted to learn something then you wouldn't show up using a shitty article to try to disprove an entire field of science.
Quit trying to act like the bigger men and trying to retain some sense of entigrity. You are fucking anonymous nobody could gice a fuck about your socratic method when you arn't even willing recognise how retarded you are acting
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>>731290130
>there is an entire history of gentic knowledge that disagrees with your two paragraph article.

It's talking about epigenetics, which didn't exist even 1 decade ago.

> If you wanted to learn something then you wouldn't show up using a shitty article to try to disprove an entire field of science.

Oh I get it, you just want to troll now. Or did you forget, that dumbed down article was so you could understand the entire scientific field you apparently don't know exists.
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>>731273023
Faggot Cuck
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>>731284955
this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBASaJsyLwA
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>>731290601
>Epigenetics didn't even exist a decade ago
Niether did you apparently
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>>731279559
>puppet
This
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>>731291109
Have a source https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3941222/
And note that the term epigenitics has existed since long before the scientific field as we know it. I was of course referencing the field of epigenetics as that is our topic of dicussion.
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>>731271763
>Having more degrees than someone doesn't the other person automatically unqualfied

True. Bill Nye the Fake Scientist Guy is unqualified all on his own.

>An old bachelors degree doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's talking about

That's exactly what it means. Why don't you listen to a real scientist?
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>>731271763
Gentlemen, this is what
>science of feelings
looks like
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>>731271981
that caption may be fake, but he did say in Season 4, Episode 8:
"[Chromosomes] control whether we become a boy or a girl."
which is a pretty big contradiction to what he says today.
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>>731291925
This. Bill "the cuck" Nye wants to replace science with his feminist propaganda.
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>>731291475
Thankyou this is a far less retarded source.
Have you considered that changes in an organism may be simply due to a response to the enviroment that may appear gentic but it is not a gentic trait that can be passed on through reproduction?
For example, I could work with my hands alot and get a callous on my hands one may think that some sort of gentic mutation developed to allow my skin to harden. This is not the case though it was already a part of my genetic coding to form a callous after a work with my hands a lot. This does not mean that now that my hands are calloused if I have sex with a women and she has a baby the baby will come out with callouses on its hands.
Take being a fucking faggot for example. Some people have fucked up shit happen to them or grow up with shitty parents and turn out to be gay this is a response to outside stimuli. Just like how people who are in war come back with post traumatic stress disorder faggots can have shit happen to them in lofe and handle it in a poor way by liking dick.
Post traumatic stress disorder is considered a mental illness just like being gay but if someone with post tramutic stress disorder has a child it doesn't mean their child will have post traumtic stress disorder. An underlying gentic code likely resided in the father that made him more prone to PTSD and as such the child may have that as well. But it would not make sense that Because the father experienced something traumatizing that the child will now become traumatized.
Take for example the hard work of baby boomers in america. Sense of all them have worked so hard if epigentics existed you would expect millenials to actually be worth something. But they are all peices of shit.
Epigentics is a flawed system created on flawed logic.
Theres the arguement you wanted.
I'll be waiting
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>>731292813
this is why I wanted to discuss the topic work someone who is knowledgeable. Your alternative expansions have indeed been thoroughly tested, with recent results found in monkeys giving us more questions than answers; but no the entire field of research is not in question by any well retarded scientists.
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>>731293251
well, that's what I get for trying to use my phone. I'm off to work, you won't be hearing any more from me.
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>>731293251
Yeah your just mad and running away now
See yha faggot!
Remember to wipe the cum off your asshole becore you leave so don't stain your pants
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>>731293251
Who comes to 4chan to try to have an intelligent discussion about gentics on /b/
You sound like shill who came here to ad hominem people and use appeal to authority on anyone until they submit to your position.
While the way that anon worded what he said in a rather mean way, he made a good arguement against the field of epigentics as a whole. You seem like a child running off now the he finally gave you an arguement
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>>731293554
I do feel full of shit, replying to you again on my phone, but I have a hard letting people remain ignorant when they seem to be trying.

You asked how scientists can distinguish physical changes from genetic ones, let alone epigenetic ones. One method we've used with great success is treating clones with different stimuli and then watching how their genetic code is expressed.

But seriously dude, I'm in traffic, work starts in 20 minutes.
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>>731272481
Both sides are like this.
Anti-sjws shit themselves when things change.
SJWs shit themselves when no one believes their made up fake science bullshit.
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>>731294064
>Who comes to 4chan to try to have an intelligent discussion about gentics on /b/
Yeah really, and when you have an intelligent debate with them, they generally get angry at every big word you use and call you pretentious.
It's all just bait.
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>>731294364
>We've used
Are you an epigeneticist going to work at 3:00 p.m. In cali or just a bar tender?
Yeah but that doesn't refute my arguement at all.
I could clone you, and give one clone alot of hard work to do woth thier hands and they will develop a callous. The other won't if they don't have tha stimuli.
That doesn't mean their gentic code changed it just means their set in stone gentic code responded to stimuli.
Jesus christ don't try to straw man my arguements you cock sucker
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>>731294613
Agreed friend.
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>>731294613
If it's all you do here eventually you find like minded people. I've had many intelligent debates on /b/. You're right though, people can be quick to judge. This place is full of bullshit and trolls.
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>>731271195
Neither. A science educator from TV that no ahs a lot of the kids who grew up watching him believing he is a serious scientist, and who takes himself WAY too seriously.
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>>731294802
except I'm talking about traits that can be genetically removed, not just triggered, like eye color
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>>731271195
Just autistic.

He doesn't realise how fucking cringey he/everything he does is
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>>731271420
And he is also the greatest actor of all time.
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>>731295023
Except that didn't refute my arguement.
You just changed the subject irrelevantly.
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>>731273477
Ooh, that is a hard one. I have a faint suspicion that John Oliver isn't a huge faggot shill, but is just playing a part. The part being 'I have an accent and glasses and tell 'jokes' that are just that little bit above retard, so that people can get them and feel good about how smart they are'
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>>731294802
I should add that I'm working at UCLA, but I'm on the technical side of research. My degree is in computational linguistics. It's useful in genetic research because both utilize math from information theory. This is just a passion for me that I'm always trying to learn more about.
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>>731295522
And there it is everybody!
"UCLA"
The most uncredible source when it comes to anything about gender in modern history.
I knew it all along thats why i called it that you worked in cali.
God damn i love being right.
I don't even care what you say anymore. A degree from UCLA is worthless
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>>731295522
Isn't california infamous for not figuring out how to have enough water even though they live next to the ocean?
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