can trees feel pain?

probably not "feel" it but you can hurt them, like making horrid stub cuts on leads and nailing shit to them

>>730975101
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>>730975101
Then why can I hear them scream all the time?

>>730974994
Ahh bloodwood.
It's always slightly disconcerting when you see it cut.

>>730975280
I nearly lost you

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>>730975164
Define "hurt"

>>730975515
Sensorial perception of the physical disruption of your biomass,

>>730975748
You think trees have a perception of any sort?

>>730974994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLTcVNyOhUc

Yes.

>>730975857
That's not a tree

>>730974994
isnt there a marky mark movie about this where the trees make everyone kill themselves?

>>730975979
I know.

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>>730975515
hurt as in affecting the life and health of the tree, like making a bad cut with a saw can cause stress to the tree, it will send a fuck load of water and energy to the affected site, which ends up being wasted and it ages the tree in dog years

>>730975996
That movie was odd.

>>730975841
Some obviously do.

Carnivorous plants, or the Fabacea family that can react to touch.

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>>730975748
No. What we perceive as pain is part of an internal alert system in our bodies that is transmitted through nerves from one point to our brain through the spinal cord. Our brain is what causes things to hurt. With certain brain damage it is possible to not feel pain. Since trees do not have brains nor do they have a nervous system, it is ridiculous to think they would feel pain.

>>730974994
No they cannot. They lack pain sensors or a nervous system. They can become sick or injured/ damaged. But they lack the ability to "feel pain" as you understand it.

>>730976032
Well then yes, they can according to that definition.

>>730974994
Trees can't move, hence feeling pain is no advantage to them. They would not have evolved that way.

>>730976296
>>730975996
Wait what? Is it worth watching while high?

>>730974994
Most biologists admit that trees do feel pain. Their nerves are set up just like ours, leading to the brain. So they feel pain, happiness and sadness just like us. They love just like us, and yes, some of them are gay.

>>730974994
plants cannot move, so pain as a survival mechanism would be redundant.

>>730974994
They don't have a nervous system, they can't feel shit. Trees/plants aren't aware.

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i identify as a maple tree and i feel pain

>>730976588
i guess, sort of spoiled the twist/end of the movie tho, its called the Happening

>>730976588
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Happening_(2008_film)

>>730976367
So a reaction in something means it has a perception of reality? I can press a button on my TV and it'll turn on but I wouldn't say it's aware.

>>730976743
I identify as a lumberjack, so I have to kill you. Can't blame me, I was born this way.

What a sappy thread.

>>730974994
Only emotionally.

>>730977123
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>>730976743
I'm going to fuck the sap outta you.

>>730976948
You are fucking retarded

>>730977114
you really got to the root of the thread.

>>730977185
Well then lets have a conversation on this shitboard. If you want to, explain why

>>730976948
Except your TV isn't a living organism?

>>730977202
I'd comment further, but trees a crowd.

>>730977173
I tree cannot consent to being fucked, so any intercourse with them would be rape.

>>730977402
Right, but I think you'd agree not all organisms have an awareness, right? How can you say if a living organism reacts then they can also perceive the reaction? Sounds like an assumption to me.

>>730976830
>>730976844
Oh I think I've heard of this actually. I'll check it out anyways, thanks.

>>730977507
If human on animal is bestiality what the fuck would human on plant/trees be called?

>>730977672
Dendraphilia. And it's heresy because God isn't a pervert.

>>730976948
>>730977185
He's right though, if anything, you're the retard. Plants that respond to external stimulation, like growing towards a source of light, are not doing so because of any conscious choice. It's simply a chemical/hormonal response.

It's like believing your dick is conscious, and has feelings.

>>730977672
Well, the trees call it humanality, but I don't know what humans call it.

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>>730977957
God IS a pervert. He should be fucking his own kind, but he goes after a 12 yo human girl, cause hows she going resist a god?

>>730978000
Man, consciousness is a weird thing isn't it? It's so mindblowing if you really start to think about it. You can reduce every little thing into just a meaningless reaction and then you don't know what the hell you're even trying to think about.

>>730978144
Ive had that rash before. Had to give up fucking for a while

>>730978391
And yet it's there. You're conscious and perceiving the world and it's unbelievable.