So I have a few questions I've been wanting to ask for awhile

I'm against Antifa because they shut down free speech.

They also simplify everything down to the most moronic level to the point it doesn't even make sense. Being slightly conservative does not make you a "NAZI". They completely distort and make light of what Hitler did by comparing people who don't share their political views with people who carried out the Holocaust.

They are a bunch of uninformed LARPing failures who got bullshit degrees in college and can't get a job with their gender studies degree.

If you can't defend your political views in a polite discussion then your views are irrelevant and worthless. "shutting down" and "no platform" tactics are the methods antifa uses because they cannot participate in civil discussion of ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoDl4oPpLy0

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stop discriminating racists!

you vegan faggot hypocrites...

>>730953308
>LARPing failures who got bullshit degrees in college and can't get a job with their gender studies degree.
100% original reply
no.
believe it or not, many people out there got the degrees that were necessary for their chosen career, even in STEM, and can't get a job or are underemployed. yes, so people are pissed off about it. obviously you are privileged so you wouldn't know

>they cannot participate in civil discussion of ideas.
we have been until you decided to hijack the election by force through questionable acts (Russia, etc)

> Being slightly conservative does not make you a "NAZI"
thats not what im saying
im syaing if you're against anti-fascism, how does that not make you a fascist?

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>>730953589

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>>730952817
Look out, the lefties have sticks. I'm scared.

>>730953726
nice.
choice of weapon for school shooters.

>>730953589
>obviously you are privileged so you wouldn't know

Typical antifa faggot projecting whatever you want onto your opponent to paint them into the oppressive white make patriarchy sterotype you require to justify your actions.

No, I grew up in a working class family. My father was a roofer, my mother was a secretary. I had to pay for my own college and worked 30 hours a week all through college and took out student loans. I got a STEM degree (biochemistry) and also have a master's degree in biochemistry.

It was somewhat difficult to find a job, but I worked a retail job until I got a job using my degree, which was about 7 months after graduation with my Master's.

>hijack the election
Yeah, Hillary didn't openly steal the democrat primaries now did she... And lets just ignore the millions of illegal alien voters.

Still waiting on the smoking gun for Russia. The worst thing you have is a Turmp aide not disclosing his full communications with Russia. Even though nothing illegal happened, he just failed to disclose it.

>anti-fascism, how does that not make you a fascist

Because the anti-fascists are acting like fascists. They are using violence and intimidation to shut down opponents. That is a fascist tactic. Actions speak louder than words. It doesn't matter what the fuck they call themselves, it matters how they act. And they act like fascists.

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>>730953981
Fun fact, less peple die in school shootings than die from bee stings
More people are killed by punching and kicking, knives, blunt objects, than by all rifles combined, not just "assault rifles".

>>730954234
that's such a non-argument.
bee stings are not always preventable
but we can prevent school shootings by banning the weapon of choice. why is it almost always the ar15 or at least an assault rifle

if we have the power to protect people, we should. i dont see why this is so hard to understand

i'm an anarchist and dont subscribe to antifa because of the heaping amounts of groupthink

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>>730954339

>but we can prevent school shootings by banning the weapon of choice. why is it almost always the ar15 or at least an assault rifle

Just a friendly reminder that Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people plus hundreds more wounded using nothing more than two components commonly available to farmers and some information commonly available on the internet.

>>730954108
but you're white, right? No one's ever called you a nigger that it mattered to you, right? You don't see representations of your kind overwhelmingly invisible or negative?

>>730952817
>"Hurr durr am americunt commie so fresh and original"
There is no need for antifa in the USA imo
since there is no fascism.
Go do your shitty Soros/Rotschild propaganda someplace with actual fascists like Ukraine.

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>>730954339
Obama conducted the largest ever gun study. It concluded:

Mass shootings are rare:
>The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

Between 1983 and 2013 there were only about 1,000 victims of a mass shooting. The hundreds of "mass shootings" you hear about from anti-gun propaganda counts gangland violence as public "mass shootings". 4 niggers shooting at each other over crack and drug selling turf isn't a mass shooting. But to a liberal it is.

Obama's study proved that guns are used far more for self defense than for harm:
>Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

Guns are also the most effective thing for self defense:
>“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

Which is why you never heard of it. Democrats swept they largest study on gun violence ever conducted under the rug.

Sauce:
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

>>730952817
People do not care about you
Stop believing you a celebrity
Your parents are ashamed of you surely
Shit like you do not wash

>>730953308
This.

The problem is that Antifa has become the place
for violence and nothing else. We need to show that the way to combat the fascists is
through purposed debate.

By being violent from the start groups like Antifa
associate the moderates or people who
disagree with the current administration with
them and discredit us all.

The way to do this is to openly engage them
peaceably and defend the constitution and free
speech ABOVE ALL

>>730954883
It doesn't matter if mass shootings are rare and kill less people than insects
It doesn't matter if guns are used more for defense than for harm
It doesn't matter if people who use guns for defense are statistically more likely to remain safe
It doesn't matter that history shows all governments become systematically more tyrannical over time and revolutions are cyclical in nature.

Guns are bad!

Look a the scenario without bias towards left or right ideologies being presented. It's a criminal that shows up wearing a mask. If you believe enough in your cause you should be willing to accept the consequences of being identified. Don't be little towelhead bitch like those fuckwits in the Middle East. You're an American. Stand in the open and speak for your rights and cause.
>masks in American protests between libcucks and Hitler's wannabe retards.
>kek

>>730952817
not a single helmet.

You people would get rekt in intifada

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>>730954736
Jeeeeeeesus anon your feelings don't matter just put your head down and grind.

Fucking pussy can't overcome so wants what's in my pocket kys

T. ANTIFA

>>730955666
>DA JOOOOZSH

>>730955438

>Guns are bad!

Okay, so what happens once every gun is banned and every gun held in civilian hands has been confiscated?

Two PVC pipe caps, 12" PVC pipe, fill with black powder and insert fireworks fuze one end. Glue glass marbles all over the outside.

Frag grenade you can walk through any metal detector.

>>730953366
The word racist was made (in to a bad thing) by internationalist globalist jewish commies in order to destabilized a existing nation.

They do this to take over the means of production and gain control over the assets of set nation whilst being foreigners themselves.

In Charles Malato’s Philosophie de l’Anarchie (1897) we find both raciste and racisme:
No doubt that before arriving at complete internationalism, there will be a stage which will be racism; but it must be hoped that the layover will not be too long, that it will be rapidly surpassed. Communism, which appears that it must inevitably be regulated at the beginning of its functioning, especially in regard to international trade, will bring about the establishment of racist federations (Latin, Slavic, Germanic, etc.). Anarchy — which we can glimpse at the end of two or three generations when, as a result of the development of production, any regulations will have become superfluous — will bring the end of racism and the advent of a humanity without borders.
http://nationalvanguard.org/2015/06/on-the-origin-of-the-word-racist/

Antifa is just the place for ragemonsters from the internet to go to be anonymous and play at being revolutionary.

If they wanted to really affect a change, they
would spend the time and attention to try and
organize and debate their enemies.

Instead, they are characterized by the
inattention of youth and the disorganization that
comes with their collective powerless feelings.
They want to blame somethging instead of
fixing it.

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Because using anti-fascism as an excuse to act like a fascist,
is the same oldest transparent trick in the book of using moral superiority to play thought police with people.

It's transparent.
It's pathetic.
It's just excuses and justifications in labels for acts of bullying and oppression that make you equally a close-minded douchebag as the other party.

It's just plain and simple intelligence-insulting to the average people, which is why average people tend to not agree with it and shit on it, and it doesn't get much support.

>How can someone stand up and say "Oh I really hate those anti-fascists" and declare themselves to NOT be a fascist?

Because some people don't have brains that are limited to binary operation and are capable of critical thinking?

>>730952817
Defeated marginalized but marginalizing cisgenderism since 2k16.

>>730952817
Antifa are facists. Anyone you disagree with politically you demonize, call an enemy of humanity, and violently try to oppress. You just don't see it because somebody told you you're the good guys.

>>730955902
All the gangs that specialize in trafficking illegal contraband won't be able to traffic guns because they are illegal contraband, duh.

Don't you know that gangs don't do illegal shit? Banning guns will get rid of them just like banning drugs got rid of drugs and banning prostitution got rid of prostitution.

this is because is necesery kill all nazis, they are fucking violent

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>>730952817
>What exactly is wrong with being anti-fascist

There are no real ''Fascist'' parties in power.

Antifa is Anti-Free speech Anti- first amendment, Anti anything that has word (Free) in it actually.It's like Bill Nye call himself scientist when he in reality is not.

ANTIFA = SJW's with fetish for dead Communist Dictators and Marxism

>>730956145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0izyoBn4NI

>>730956204
fucking nazis, I would kill them all

>>730952817
>How can someone stand up and say "Oh I really hate those anti-fascists" and declare themselves to NOT be a fascist?

Because fascists act while non-fascists just express their opinions.
Those people clearly understand the definition of fascism, while you don't OP.

>>730954339
>assault rifle

kek. someone doesn't know what they're talking about. your opinion is no longer valid.

>>730956084

All I was saying is that if the Libs ever actually achieved their gun free utopia, those who would do harm on a mass scale will simply switch to explosives to get it done.

Liberals believe that it's the tool that does evil while us conservatives know that it's the person operating it.

>>730956147
>ANTIFA = SJW's with fetish for dead Communist Dictators and Marxism
This. So very much this.

>>730952817
>What exactly is wrong with being anti-fascist?
Nothing. However Antifa members have recently been oppressive of human rights. There definition of fascism now seems to be people support freedom of speech.

If Antifa is so accepting of everyone why are they attacking people for being different than them? If they are so opposed to fascism why do they think it OK to come and operate as a one party totalitarian gang who censor and assault people? What would happen if they did come to take over the country? You think they would give up their power and stop their Hilterish ways?

>>730956147
gay nazi detected

>>730955902
sounds like he was being sarcastic, fuckboy.

>>730956434
The Nice truck attack in France killed more people than any single gunman mass shooting has ever killed. Guns are not the optimal choice for a terrorist attack. They are too precise and only effect 1 target at a time.

Simply driving a large vehicle into a crowd is a far more effective method of murder and destruction than guns.

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>call yourself anti-fa

>create an organization whose aim is totalitarian control
>act in a militaristic manner
>draw extreme binary lines between yourself and your perceived enemies with no grey area allowed
KEK

GIF related.
Wall: OP and antifa
Penis: Me.

>>730955666
Fuck.......triple 6's attached to this reply

>>730952817
"Think how we think or we'll hurt you"

Who said it? Nazis, antifa or both?

Does it really matter what these Antifa fuckers think? At the end of the day, when it comes down to it, it's all the normal people that are going to win. When the shit hits the fan and the guns come out, Antifa will be wiped the fuck out. There's only so much times you can try and bully the wider population before they say enough is enough. They do not matter and if they keep going the way they are, they're all going to get killed. t will be their own fault for participating illusions of a war against nazi's that don't exist.

That's all there is to it when it's all finally said and done.

>>730952817
If they didn't know what they were doing was wrong they wouldn't be hiding their identities like little pissies.

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Fuck Antifa and fuck straight edge too. They ARE fucking fascist beating up people that don't agree with them, Assholes...

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>>730957157
>and fuck straight edge too

>How can someone stand up and say "Oh I really hate those anti-fascists" and declare themselves to NOT be a fascist?

Not everyone falls for the false dichotomy Antifa hopes to maintain. They aren't attacking King Jong Un, they are attacking citizens of a democratic republic. While trying to undermine the very freedoms essential to protecting US FROM FASCISM.

>>730952817
>What exactly is wrong with being anti-fascist?
But you're not. You're anti free speech.

>>730952817
We aren't at war.

The country is perfectly fine.

Antifa is having bitch fits over people they assume to be "fascist" which by their definition is anyone who is against them in any way.

They're piping up for the "marginalized" groups in America, trying to speak out for others that don't need people to speak for them.

There's a few videos where the so called marginalized groups these antifa fucks are trying to represent speak out against them, and antifa doesn't do shit.

Antifa is a bunch of little faggots that grew up thinking they were special, and thinking that the world needs to change, that history should repeat itself, all so they can feel self empowered. It's fucking ridiculous, and at this point it just seems like mass hysteria.

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>>730952817
Antifa = fascist, domestic terrorists

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>>730958251
It is just all smokescreens

>>730953726
So you have weaponized autism and the left has sticks
Who wins? Hedge your bets now

>>730953308
>shut down free speech
Do they though? Saying things that are not true and by their utterance hurt people is not protected... https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/stereotype_threat

to antifa anything that is not far left is facist nazis

antifa call everything they don't like facist nazis

antifa are just communist tools against capitalism, workers rise up yada yada fight da powa

>>730959227

calling anyone you don't agree with a nazi is no different

there's nothing wrong with nationalism or national socialism anyway

you faggots complain when anyone talks shit about communism and say you can't blame an ideology well you can't blame national socialism either

your fucking vehicle for change is going to end up running it's own operators over just like last time

>>730952817

1) you define your ideal as "anything going against Fascism" -- that is: you're a faggotrendy gay fag (imagine, for contrast, someone joining a group of anti-somethingrandom)

2) you go for a clearly fabricated meme because it's edgy and trendy -- that is: you're a faggotrendy edgygay fag and you don't ask yourself why the "Fascist" term doesn't mean anymore an Italian historic movement between 1922 and 1943, and why suddenly in late 2010's it gets fucking traction and attention by media

3) you don't even know what actually Fascism has been, and why Italy is still a G7 member instead of being as interesting as Zimbabwe -- that is: you're an ignorant faggwho doesn't know that Fascism basically invented free medical support for everyone, invented free state retirement plan for everone ("pensions"), invented unemployment benefits while making fiscally profitable employment (thus defeating unemployment), fiscal benefits for every family having a newborn, defeated politicians corruption, defeated mafia, improved universities, plus the heavy work on railways, submarines, aviation, guns, cars, ships (you can't even name a fucking reason why Italy has had metallurgical, micromachinery, home appliances factories), went as far as to create a "celibate tax" inducing men to marry when 18-20 instead of 30-40... and you only think about Hurr Durr Racist Laws prohibiting Jews to hire non-Jews youngsters as butlers.

4) you only talk about violent/nonviolent and the usual "politically correct" shit about diversities, backgrounds, defending marginalized groups... -- that is: you are a faggot adding ignorance to ignorance, and sympathize to faggots like you who think "Hurr Durr our grandfathers went in Italy to get shot and killed because Muh Fascism Reeee Fascism Hurr Durr". Result: the anti-fascist "liberated" Italy gained again corruption, mafia, unemployment, the most powerful Communist party, and every fucking Hollywood trend (gayness, drugs, porn, abortionism...)

>>730959227

>Do they though?
Why don't you ask the people who had their speeches cancelled due to the threat of Antifa, or those who were violently attacked in the middle of saying something the Antifa tyrants didn't like

>Saying things that are not true and by their utterance hurt people is not protected.
The 1st amendment protects freedom of speech and religion. So it doesn't matter if someone feels hurt by something someone said.

>>730952817
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TautologicalTemplar

>>730954736
Being black and getting called "nigger" is no different than being white and getting called "cracker" or being Mexican and being called "spic".

>>730954736
And this is what an ANTIFA argument boils down to. "You're white so you never suffered before like a black person." You honestly need to get some actual perspective on life. Riddle me this. If a homeless white person is on the street and a black successful business is making millions, is the black person still more oppressed because someone maybe have called him the n word.

Concern troll is concern troll

>>730960685
>The 1st amendment protects freedom of speech and religion. So it doesn't matter if someone feels hurt by something someone said.

Offensive speech is exactly what he 1st amendment is there to protect. Who the fuck would be shutting down speech if they weren't offended by it?

Logically the 1st amendment is there to protect somebody who is saying something somebody else doesn't want them to say.

>>730952817
>How can someone stand up and say "Oh I really hate those anti-fascists" and declare themselves to NOT be a fascist?

This is literal witch hunt logic.

During the actual Witch Hunts, being against witch hunting was considered a sign of being a witch.

>>730961195
Most SJWs would still say yes, the black is more oppressed.

>>730960685
Shouting fire in a crowded auditorium is not protected speech, although untested in the courts to my knowledge, saying racist shit should not be protected because it actually and measurably hurts the people who believe they are being stereotyped, https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/stereotype_threat

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>>730952817
>what is wrong with being anti-fascist
>pic related, ISIS loves you
>you are the fascists

>>730961381
and of course you and your self appointed thought police get to decide what is and isn't racist, right?

Condeming a person for the color of their skin and not looking at their individual actions as a person would be racist, right?

Well, unless the person is white? Right? Because fuck white people!

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>>730952817
Anyone else find it ironic that anti-fascists use the same colors Hitler's Nazi party used?

>mfw anti-fascists are fascists

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>>730961381
Antifa are the good guys
>ISIS supports them and they burn free speech signs

>>730961381
Faggot detected. If you don't believe in free speech for the people you despise the most, you don't believe in free speech. Fuck you you nigger dick sucking trap. I hope that hurt your feelings.

>>730961567
How is it hard to figure out what stereotypes are? How hard is it to treat people you have yet to meet with respect?

>>730961723
Both the terms Nazi and Fascist are so overused and diluted it is fucking ridiculous. Both were specific political movements in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s.

Nobody today is a fascist or a nazi. Yes there might be a few hundred fringe cult members who are insignificant.

People who seriously use either term to label somebody are idiots who have no argument. Just like how they scream racist and sexist, they scream nazi and fascist to try and shut down discussion and demonize their opponents.

Because Nazi's, Fascists, Sexists, and Racists are all bad! You don't want to be bad do you?

>>730962003
Ask that to all the masked antifa openly attacking white males for being nothing more than white.

They call people nazis, fascist, sexist, and racist without even hearing a single thing they say. Antifa is the one using self created stereotypes and broad generalizations to demonize individuals.

Antifa are the racists.

>>730954339
I can use any rifle as an assault rifles. Durr hurr AR 15s are bad. Fuck you, I have a Springfield M1A in 7.62x51 mm with a Leatherwood optics on it that can really fuck shit up. Better have a trauma plate in your bullet proof vest, cause it will punch through that. Evil black rifles. Fuck you.

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>Antifa accepts all

Pretty sure you dumb fuckers don't accept patriots.


ShariaBlue needs to hire better shills than all of you. You can't make the videos of your psychotic members disappear with a few stupid dictionary definitions.

Tell Mr. Soros he's wasting his money.

>>730952817
>Why do people think anti-facists are bad?

Well, the only people who would think that would be facists and their greatest allies, the ones who call for debate with facists (the ones that call themselves neutral, middle or centered).

What i can say about the ANTIFA department in my city (in a capital in europe), is that they put themself on a pedistal and they are not very smart (i used to do stuff with them).
There were a few times where they attacked people that a respected member told them to, and it was just a misunderstanding, which was dumb as fuck and not very serious.

They did however work as bodyguards for some of the important researchers, journalists and even for people who had been undercover in the neo-nazi enviroment, which was a pretty important and dangerous job.


>why is violence bad against facists, nazis and right wingers.

It's not, most sane people who are not edgelords would give their own life to kill Hitler if they had the chance, atleast that's how it was 10 years ago.

But to be fair, the most important tactic is to not include the far right in debates at all, they need to be silenced to death, freedom of speech is not a right to people who wishes to use that freedom to take other's freedom away.


>Conclusion

ANTIFA is a small time organization of little to no importance, but they are often blown up in the media or by the right wing to be something huge, which goes to the heads of the people in ANTIFA, and make them see themselves as heroes, cause that is what they think they are.
Alot of them have inflated egos, but every right winger who get's punched is the face have it coming.

>>730953981
>being this retarded.

>>730961856
Of course I believe in free speech for people with opinions that differ from my own, stereotypes and racism are self perpetuating bullshit that actually hurts people, and I think we can agree that advocating for the violation of any law is punishable in court including non-discrimination laws?

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>>730961381
>saying racist shit should not be protected because it actually and measurably hurts the people who believe they are being stereotyped

If you make it illegal to say racist shit you just make the racist shit seem to be true. Especially when your justification is that they can't even handle other people being allowed a shitty opinion. There is already enough resentment between races without throwing fuel on the fire.

>>730962261
Never met or been a part of antifa, seems as though you have the moral high ground and can make a reasoned argument for tolerance and respect.

>>730952817

I just want too be left alone to fuck black girls in peace and play vidya. But these rich cunt kids call me a racist and sexist because I am white and male.

>>730956147
Winrar.

>>730962742
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/stereotype_threat

Yah but no? Just saying it makes it come true, just the perception that someone is trying to stereotype you is enough to measurably lower test scores?

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>>730952817
They're actually larping as old communist groups. They must be physically removed.

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>>730962647
Like it or not, stereotypes are usually based in truth. They are conclusions that multiple people have come to from dealing with numerous individuals of a particular demographic.

Sure, stereotypes are not 100% true, but they don't come out of a vacuum and aren't created from nothing.

>>730962647
Fuck you nigger. Free speech reread your original post where you said racist things should be condemned. I'm racist as fuck, just like niggers, gooks, sand niggers, kikes, and niggers. Did I repeat nigger?

>>730952817
I'm an old Anti-Fa member. I joined many many years ago. I am 36 for those curious.

Back then we only hunted down and fought Neo-Nazis and actual racist groups (KKK, New Black Panther Party, etc).

The only time we did anything outside of that was to publicly announce which businesses or homes or whatever actually had confirmed fascist or racist fucks. If they complained, we offered to publicly debate them and show our evidence---- even then this was done with extreme care to make sure we had everything right.

Now? It has gotten oddly political and disorganized.

Back then we had both left wing and right wing members. Everyone wanted to clear our areas of fascist and racist groups.

Now a days, I dont really recognize the group anymore-- but fuck it. I am old school. I still try to hunt down Neo-nazis.

>>730963159
Jew detected. Fuck you.

>>730963159
>New Black Panther Party
I find that hard to believe. The current antifa I have seen would never oppose the black panthers specifically because they are black. Blacks can't be racist according to the neo-liberals. To them racism is exclusively only a white trait. Thousands of brainwashed liberals unironically believe that.

>>730963026
>stereotypes are usually based in truth
False and the opposite, stereotypes are usually based in ignorance, ignorance of the individuals and of the environment they live in and the choices and systems their ancestors made. Stereotypes come from our instinctual ability to survive dangerous plants and animals, when applied to humans based on appearance they are dangerous and harmful.

>>730952817
Because Antifa are the real fascists. They shut down free speech, dont want to hear the other opinions, use violence on people they disagree with, demand we pander to their political desires or else you can get kicked out of school, make a list of words you cant say on campus (one word is lame), etc.

>>730963262
Shut the fuck up pussy

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>>730962742
To be fair, any one with a tangential familiarity with statistics, biology, genetics, and biochemistry knows that the races are different.

This is why a semitic nation (any one of that bloodline, folks from the middle east, not jews specifically) will never function as a democracy.

The modern 'fascist' is a person who points out the obvious.

>>730952817
>The fascists of the future will call themselves the anti-fascists
-Winston Churchill

>>730963159
So it's illegal to be a neo Nazi. Vigilante justice. Your worse than the people your hunting down, but that doesn't matter because nobody believes your story.
What did you do after you hunted them down? Leave a nasty message on their door? Or employ violence? The irony. Accept my view or I am going to hurt you.
You most definitely are a nigger.

>>730963065
All of those words are references to a particular location from which people came? Or are you using them to refer to individuals from those specific regions who only act on their most basic instincts?

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>>730963443
>Lefties think stereotypes just sprung up from nothing.

Mate, whatever you guys smoke to exist in the hallucinogenic reality you seem to see... I want some.

>>730963468
No. Jew nigger lover who hates free speech. Your mom fucked niggers, am I right?

>>730952817
They don't punch any actual fascists. They mostly seem to beat up trash cans and cars.

>>730963159
And to clarify something else:

Free speech, yeah-- got it.

But who the fuck cares if they protest or riot?

Did they person get to say what they wanted? Sure.

Free speech means you can say whatever, sure--- but that doesn't mean you aren't free from repercussions.
Free speech also means protests or counter protests. Shouting during speeches, etc.

That's how it works.

That being said---if people like Milo or Anne Coulter want to speak? They can try, but people can also protest before they make a speech.

And if the venue says "thing is cancelled"-- they can always speak somewhere else if they can find a place. Free speech.

But that also doesn't mean they can't be protested yet again. That's also free speech by the opposing party.

>>730963159
Dude, at this point, seeing how Muslims, Mexicans, and Blacks behave when we give them free reign...

Even you must understand the desire for a european ethnostate.

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>>730952817
Because they act like fascists and use fascist tactics; they use violence to shut down the free speech of others. They also label anyone who disagrees with them as a Nazi/racist/other-buzz-words, giving them some excuse to be violent. They also strawman the position of those who disagree with them; that's why they never want to have a civilized debate, they don't know what the fuck they're on about.

And just because they call themselves "antifa" doesn't mean that's what they are. It's like if there were an "anti murder" group out there that did nothing but murder, and then you asked me "why don't you support anti-murder? are you a murderer?"

Actions speak louder than what you name yourself. You're an idiot OP, fuck off. You're a sickening fuck who's trying to excuse the vile actions of a terrorist group.

>>730952817
Because in their fight against fascism, they usually reproduce the same mistakes actual fascists did. They can't argue or defend their political view in a serious discussion and they won't. They are gonna be loud and louder. It's nothing political, it's blind rage.

>>730963484
Even jews have admitted the importance of ethno nationalism for their demographics in order to have a real democracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c8FYcKWJzY

>>730963443
Bullshit
Plenty of Irish immigrants were drunk and violent
Blacks are demonstrably more prone to violence and crime in the USA
Jews are demonstrably more obsessed with money than other races. Ever worked a retail job and had a jew try to hagle prices? I worked as a cashier for a few years and only ever had to deal with jews doing this. An item has a set price and a barcode and some jew is literally trying to barter with me over the price at fucking walmart. I shit you not.

Stereotypes are based in reality. And no matter how much it hurts your feelings, not all races are exactly the same and equal. There are certain cultures that are better than others. Sorry, snowflake.

>>730963815

>Beating 'evil right wing nazis'
"Hey, these are just the repercussions for speaking."
>Getting shot by evil right wing nazis
"I guess those are just the repercussions for violently suppressing other people."


How does your fucking brain work?

>>730963623
Black equals niggers.
Spics are all Latin americans
Kikes are Jews
Sandniggers are all Arabs and Persians
Gooks are all Vietnamese
Chinks are Chinese
Slants are all Japs.
You are a faggot.
Free speech is fun!

>>730963443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjqN4dtbSOA

Nice try Schlomo

>>730963896
No reason we europeans shouldn't as well.

>>730963815
And where does throwing rocks large enough to kill someone, setting buildings on fire, pulling fire alarms (a felony similar to shouting fire in a crowded building), shooting fireworks at people, throwing battery acid at people, and using pepper spray on people fit in?

Yup, that sounds like people just exercising their free speech rights to counter other free speech rights.

Go fuck your self, commie scum.

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>>730962647
>I think we can agree that advocating for the violation of any law is punishable in court including non-discrimination laws?

>>730963815
The problem is they dont want free speech and openly say so. They also dont back themselves up with facts. Watch the recent videos. Its also a freedom to record in public. They hit all cameras away. They also devise plans to keep girls in front because "guys cant hit girls" and then have a row of males who hit with various objects. Stop acting like they are so self-righteous. They are the least tolerant of anyone at those rallies and the media is completely biased. Yea sure, its not illegal to protest and prevent someone from giving a speech but it shows how indecent the college faculty and students are when they protect leftists speakers and not right wing ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xc6REx2hU

>>730963262
Yeah, sure. Thanks for illustrating a point.
>>730963402
Not to sound condescending, but I don't have much choice:

How old are you, boy?
Ever been around areas that have the group?
Ah, you think Anti-Fa is just a bunch of confused white kids? My group is still a big.mixture of people--- and our black members are openly hostile to groups like the New Black Panther Party which has openly called for the murder of whites and Asians.

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>>730961468
i dont want you to murder some one and i will prevent you from doing so = a act of fascism

>>730962742
>>730961381
The word racist was made (in to a bad thing) by internationalist globalist jewish commies in order to destabilized a existing nation.

They do this to take over the means of production and gain control over the assets of set nation whilst being foreigners themselves.

In Charles Malato’s Philosophie de l’Anarchie (1897) we find both raciste and racisme:
No doubt that before arriving at complete internationalism, there will be a stage which will be racism; but it must be hoped that the layover will not be too long, that it will be rapidly surpassed. Communism, which appears that it must inevitably be regulated at the beginning of its functioning, especially in regard to international trade, will bring about the establishment of racist federations (Latin, Slavic, Germanic, etc.). Anarchy — which we can glimpse at the end of two or three generations when, as a result of the development of production, any regulations will have become superfluous — will bring the end of racism and the advent of a humanity without borders.
http://nationalvanguard.org/2015/06/on-the-origin-of-the-word-racist/


Racism: inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement

>>730952817
Antifa are not ant-fascists. They are fascists.

>>730964296
> our black members are openly hostile to groups like the New Black Panther Party which has openly called for the murder of whites and Asians.

lol yea right. Theyre lying to themselves. Someone oppossed to those parties wouldnt act in a way they currently do. Fyi MLK Jrs daughter condemned BLM because of this very reason..

They have no reason whatsoever and disregard any fact.

>>730952817
>step 1: call yourself anti-fascist
>step 2: employ fascist methods to push through your agenda
>step 3: ???
>step 4: profit

>>730962996
on could wonder how they got the funds to put up these expensive boards all over their building or the building for that matter

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>>730964296
Yup, black antifa are quite reasonable people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xm4okvOQ5k

>>730963620
No one said it was illegal.
I just hate people that want to LARP 1940 Germans (I'm a citizen of Germany and Ireland but lived in the US for a few years).

I don't give a shit if you think I am worse or whatever (I'm not, but you're a pussy, so..) Because I don't hate someone for their skin.

I hate them for their ideology. For the open threats they make. For the terror they wish to inflict upon the community and for their targeting of people born differently than them.

Also:
Keep getting cucked, boy-o.

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>>730963815
The repercussions of speaking your mind should not be being physically attacked; it should be someone calling you out on your errors or simply insulting you.

And those protesters who scream and out during are stifling free speech, if they really cared about free speech, they'd let the person with different views speak their mind and then offer a rebuttal.

Disrupting a speech that's been set up and paid for by people is not free speech, that's the exact opposite. You're in a private place, owned by someone, you must abide by their rules or GTFO. Or, better yet, ask the speaker questions and speak your mind and debate them like a sane fucking person.

What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?

>>730964116
BASED

>>730953589
>obviously you are privileged so you wouldn't know
Get off my board and go back to fucking horses

>>730952817
Remember the South park Episode where Cartman became a superhero?

That's what Antifa looks like from the outside.

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>>730964736
German telling other to get cucked
The irony

>>730952817
>2. ANTIFA accepts ALL, and is made up of people from all backgrounds so what stops you from supporting them?
>post a picture full of white people

>>730964296
Goddamn you really are constipated aren't you. Go find a BBC to help your herpes laden ass expel the shit out of your anus, instead of your mouth.
I'm ready for a race war, and I know a lot of people who are ready.
Trump won, more guns for everyone and let's see what some real violence can accomplish. Keep pushing your faggot agenda down people's throats and see what happens. I hate all black people. Race war now.

>>730964296
Go back to isreal if the USA is too fascist for you, faggot.

>>730952817
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>730964887
whos the girl?

>>730964878
>Perfect analogy.

>>730952817
>3. ANTIFA has been defending marginalized groups so how would you feel if you were a PoC, immigrant, or otherwise a minority in a majority-dense society?

I'm a white individual in a majority black country. If I did associate with others like me it would be a hate crime.

>>730952817
These fucking dicks are just a bunch of kids looking to rebel for any reason whatsoever. That's it, that's all. Want proof it's all bullshit? How come most, if not all these people expose their faces? If you believe enough in a cause which is a worthy cause, you should be prepared to suffer for standing up for it. Otherwise, you are no better than a coward. Gutless infants throwing tantrums. Same with those ISIS scum. Real tough guys showing how strong and manly they are, hiding their faces while killing victims all bound and tied, helpless. Really brave warriors, they are. Show your faces, cowards!!! Prove you are fully willing to fight and suffer for your cause, or slink away with your tails between your legs.

>>730965187
Nobody is fucking marginalized any more. It's a fair game for all. What a load of bullshit.

>>730964736
Well, Germany is really fucked now isn't it. And youre a potato nigger as well. Nice. I hope you get raped by some sandnigger with aids. Oh and Merkel is really the shit. That's what happens when you put a female in charge of things, for what, 3 terms.
You're a traitor to the proud Germanic people. Go watch your girlfriend (like you have one) get pounded out like a veal steak while you sit in the corner, jacking it.

>>730952817
antifa is for the simple minded. protesting is statist action. real anarchists understand the non-aggression principle. antifa is just a bunch of stupid kids and simple-minded adults.

>>730965187
Also how are they marginalized? They really arent at all.. No one cares about race. Its 2017. There is no institutional racism whatsoever.

The reality is that weve reached a point in our society where there are no problems. We arent technically at war, everyone is comftorable as fuck and would be considered upper class in most countries over the world, were safe, crime has never been so low.. so they create their own problems. People start to lose their identity and make up things to complain about. They start identifying as part of these groups so that they can be morally superior because if they didnt, there would be nothing for them to work for. They want fulfillment and look at hating their own country and people to express their tyrannical fetish.

>>730965262
>How come most, if not all these people expose their faces
Typo, it should say DO NOT expose their faces

>>730955666
Demon jews; trips of truth

>>730952817
>How can someone stand up and say "Oh I really hate those anti-fascists" and declare themselves to NOT be a fascist?

It seems we disagree on the point that ANTIFA actually only opposes Fascism. I think they have inflated the term Fascism to a degree that doesn't represent the original political ideology.

By now people who fought the Nazis would be labeled by the Antifa as nazis because of their political views. Milo, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter and what all these conservative pundits are called are way way less right wing than your typical American citizen around 1940.

>>730963853
No. I don't. Because I dont make broad sweeping statements based in paranoia and fear because "they look different than me and come from a different place!"--- that is the argument of a racist boiled down to the core.

>>730963996
Easy:
Nazism once controlled my country.
German citizens formed resistance groups.
The tradition has kept going.

Neo Nazis want a fight. I and others old enough more than happily oblige them.
And the best part? They are always out numbered.

This is a war over areas as not sides see it. You got no nuts? Then just go back to your little life of either saying 'I'm no racist" or "I hate blacks" and let those ofnus with balls do the fighting.

.>>730964184
It is all-out war.
Neo-nazis kicked off the entire thing.
Do recall that antifa really started in 1950's Germany, where our nation was dealing with a group of Nazis that reformed into our NPD.

What happens after? Bids to grab power. Murders in several countries and terror attacks on innocent people, even children.

And no, I am not a communist either (I hate communism just as much as fascism).

And if you're seriously defending Neo-nazis?
Keep getting cucked in the knowledge that you're a dying breed. There are far more reasonable people in this world than scum like you. We will overcome and your children will become a part of a big cosmopolitan society--- and you'll be dying out.

The world is waking up and wishing for peace.
Not fascists and racists. Only the unnatural wish to spread misery and segregate people based on skin colour or immigrants or whatever.

We want to live by each other's happiness, not each other's mistrust and sadness. Real humanbeings are like that.

>>730963509

I hope you're sharing this fake quote as b8?

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>>730955859
>>730955666
https://thezog.info/list-summaries/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe_53ks0SeM

>>730963402
he didnt wrote about the current, but the past antifa. with the current not opposing the black panthers you may be right

>3. ANTIFA has been defending marginalized groups so how would you feel if you were a PoC, immigrant, or otherwise a minority in a majority-dense society?

I'd probably feel quite resentful of antifa. I think I'd worry about possibly being associated with such a violent extremist criminal organization whose actions might be associated with my identity and bring on even more prejudice from my majority-dense society.

>>730966082
This is what is most unfuriating about all these "movements" now. They are all based on lies and misinformation and people line up to eat that shit with a fork and spoon and blindly accept anything they hear as truth.

>>730964289
You do know that all groups and members are independent, right?
As in, I have no more say in what a group in Brazil or the US say than in Ireland or Germany.

Because each country has different problems avd cultural views.
Doesn't mean I agree with , say for example, Sweden's Antifa group that has strong communist overtones--- of which I strongly oppose, but can't do anything about it.

>>730966106
You fight neo Nazis. Hehe. I guess you never came across a real neonazi then cause they would have murdered you. Like me for example.

>>730954339
Protect them from WHAT? The boogeyman? Quit making up false demons.

>>730966156
its not bait nor is it fake. Why do you disregard something before youve even tried looking into it?
>Anons of all over, perfect example of how antifa does business.

Look it up on google. https://boltonbnp.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-fascists-of-future-will-call.html

>>730952817
It's pathetic how antifa try to compare themselves to the allies of WW2.

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>>730966106
you are retarded
https://youtu.be/FUt-yxJODxI

>>730964509
You...don't know much about the history of this New Black Panther Party, right?

This isn't the original "fight for your rights" Black Panther Party.

Nope

The new blank panther party has shitnlike this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y3Cd9gnvlw


This isn't like BLM. These guys? This is a different thing all together. They are also fascist in their political outlook.

>>730966201
i love the part were the indian dude changes his name to a jews name and gets produced

>>730966335
Jesus christ they all have the same underlining values. Idk if youre in the US but the US antifa is very communistic. Cool, you cant say you dont believe in communism, word it how you want, but the group prides themselves on preventing speech, universal COMMODITIES, etc

Earlier this week before Anne Coulter spoke on a reddit thread from r/anarchism

"Its working guys!! Were proving that violence is a necessary way to take away the Fascists speech! etc etc etc" That wasnt word for word but it went along those lines.

>>730966106
>Neo-nazis kicked off the entire thing.
>Do recall that antifa really started in 1950's Germany, where our nation was dealing with a group of Nazis that reformed into our NPD.

I'm fairly sure that the Antifa was born out of the student movements of the 1960s and 70s.

>>730964680
You're assuming I am an American Anti-Fa?

Phft.

I swear, you retards here have been doing alot of assuming.

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>>730966684
SA was a arid desert empty of people, Whites came started farming, slavery was illegal because of the british.

Whites offered jobs to people from neighboring countries.
More came and started to rapidly out number the black workers and whites.

Workers and whites get attack raped mugged constantly.
Apartheid commences they keep the non working immigrant blacks away from the whites and black paid labor.
67 deaths a year

Nelson Mandela the self proclaimed terrorist took power with terror attacks, kills 77,000 people
SA rape capital of the world
37 deaths a day
https://americanfreepress.net/70000-whites-murdered-in-modern-south-africa-obamas-african-legacy/

>>730966812
Where are you from then?

>>730954601
Friendly reminder that Timothy McVeigh bombed a building because he thought the government was coming for his guns.

>>730964777
"Should not be"
Says who?
No, really hippie, who?

Nothing in free speech says that.

Free speech just says you're free to say what you want. To write it down and have it printed too.

No one says anyone has to listen or respect what you say.

It also doesn't say "oh and you totally don't have to own up to anything you say".
Pussy.

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OP is an example of how, over the last 8 years, the ex H.N.I.C. has ruined this country. Hitler did nothing wrong, gas the kikes, race war now and the Holocaust is a myth.

>>730954736
If blacks want to stop being viewed negatively, why do they not actively police their own communites? Why is there no responsibility being taken to go after those in the communiy who are the cause of these negative views? No, it's always someone else's fault, it always someone else's responsibility. Then you have the nerve to force others to take responsibility, or be branded a racist. Do not expect sympathy or a response when you have zero credibility.

>>730964913
Well, I'm your huckleberry, just say when faggot.

You want a racewar because you're a insecure little cunt. Afraid like a little bitch of your neighbors who look different than you.

Here I thought people like you would be over joyed that there are people like me ready to throw down?

Just say when and where.

>>730953308
>Best response ever.
Just because you're against something that's wrong doesn't make you right.

>>730964932
I'm a German and Irish citizen, but OK? I get you're trying to insult me and others with you're little "jewjewjew" bit--- but really, if that's all you got?
No fucking wonder you're only real followers are rednecks and high school drop outs.

>>730967351
The only probelm is nobody ever said anything from the top picture. Trump supporters never threatened or commited violence. nice shilling tho

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>>730967471
They think for some reason Nazism was a smashing success and the Earth is only 6000 years old.

They can't be reasoned with.

>>730952817
1. Being anti-fascist doesn't mean they aren't totalitarian and against our ideals. You can be against fascism and other totalitarian ideologies at the same time. And they are against freedom of speech, which is a requirement for a democracy.
2. That they stand for communism and anarchy. They are totalitarian.
3. They have been doing so with illegal means.

You are so fucking stupid that you essentially say "if you aren't with Antifa you must be a fascist".

>>730967471
I feel like I always have a cliched view of Antifa member. How old are you and what's your occupation?

>>730953981
How about you prove us all wrong and bring in some evidence of your sperg-tier "argument".

1) majorities have rights, too;

2) I am not pro Trump but I am absolutely pro civil liberties including assembly and speech;

3) You fuck with me at your probable serious peril

4) Give up violence or risk turning this serious. Half a dozen former special forces guys are advising The Minutemen to resist Antifa in Boston;

5) Boston isn't Berkeley. It isn't Cambridge either.

6) Antifa is a hostile.)

7) Respect, inform, and obey LEOs. LEOs defend the Constitution. Antifa is devoted to attacking civil liberties in the name of a Potemkin justice.

Frankly the only thing I will say about all of this is that: Free speech works both ways. If you're going to spew some shit that people disagree with (alt-right) then you have the right to do so. On the same front, if they disagree with it, people have the right to opt that they not speak at private forums and, also, if they are so inclined then they can commit assault and deal with the consequences therein.

>>730967308
Right now, better bring weapons. Combat vet here. I would just love the chance.
Besides this is what a real rally looks like, you nigger faggot Jew. Bring your friends as well cause your gonna need all the help you can get.
Ever been in a fire fight? I have, let's see how you perform.
Semper Fi, motherfucker.

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>>730967018
Where free speech applies here, is, let's say someone shoots you because they didn't like you saying " I think we need to dismantle white privilege!" or "I think black people are stupid", they have no legal justification or reasonable excuse for the attack, since freedom of speech allows you to say such things.

>>730955438
You're an idiot.

>>730963443
You are one brainwashed motherfucker.

>>730967548
Sure dumbass. Stop getting your news from /pol.

www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article147344794.html
(Trump supporter machete attack)

https://wonkette.com/616345/nice-alt-right-couple-went-to-milo-protest-to-attack-snowflakes-shot-one
(Fat Trump whale shoots someone kek)

>>730953589
>cant get a job with a degree
Then its useless isn't it :^)

>>730965512
Na, we're doing just fine.

Your American media is some kind of circus, but hell-- you guys already know this.

And girlfriend? I'm married. To a Japanese chick.
My sister-in-law's husband is from Bangladesh. A few of my cousins are black--- and hilariously?
My grandfather fought in WWII as a paratrooper, his brother was in the SS and my other great uncle from the Irish side was in the founding IRA-Fenian roster.

Just an all-round little global family.
Sure, for you? Must be disgusting. But, hell, nothing like you fucking your own sister right?

And it's having a wank, not jacking it-- you silly yanks and your unimaginative slang.

>>730955666
I didn't want to believe this until I saw the the trip 6's.

>>730963443
>False and the opposite, stereotypes are usually based in ignorance, ignorance of the individuals

full on head-in-the-sand mode detected. stereotypes arise from observable patterns of behavior or values

>>730967437
Who are you to say what's right and what's wrong?

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>>730968039

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>>730953308
FPBP OP BTFO

>>730968091
A member of this society that we live in, that's who.

>>730967351
>You do know that all groups and members are independent, right?>>730966335

>>730966356
Na you wouldn't have, pussy.
And yeah, I have. Plenty.
Your American Nazis are a little weedy though.

And short.

I dont know why, but you guys tend to be manlets. The fuck is up with that?
Like, some of you are jacked, but short. Most of you are trailer park trash.

But do tell-- what is it like knowing you're LARPing and wishing you were a real German in the 1930's?

>>730954108
I love you

>>730968084
Get off the internet and open a social studies book, ffs.

>>730953308
This

>>730952817
well, i like voicing my opinion. thats why.
free speech is pretty cool.
if you dont understand why non regulted uninstitutionalized violence is bad you are a retardo

>>730966651
Na-- fairly clever. Paid well too as a business consultant.
I know, pisses you off that you're still living in a trailer, working for shit wages at an autoparts store.
But hang in there. That RAHOWA gotta be coming soon, right?

Phhfftt. Ha.

>>730968254
HA tell that to some other dumb Trump supporter. By that same logic, you could say antifa "members" are just individuals acting on their on volition.

>>730968334
thats a stellar counterargument and has made me seriously reconsider my position

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>>730967999
Wank is a British term. Goddamn your genetics are seriously fucked up. This is what your kids probably look like.

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>>730954736
>niggers
>10-12% of population
>60+% of violent crime

>>730954234
nice cherrypicking
lump together all other metrics and compare them to a fraction of one metric.
summing the total of all other weapons and comparing them to the total firearm murders shows firearms are used in almost twice as many murders than every other weapon used in murders

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Antifa are Bolsheviks.

Bolsheviks murdered more people than Nazis in Russia alone.


Antifa wants a war?

The Minutemen will give you a war you won't believe.

>>730968520
Yet you're still here.

>>730966750
I think I told you and everyone earlier-- I'm not in the US or American. Nor am I young. I am probably one of the oldest ITT.

Every group is individualistic. I can't control what any other group does or says.

It isn't like we have a central headquarters guys.

>>730954108
>oppressive white male

Just another dumb conservacuck.

Clearly went to a low-quality technical college.

>>730952817

As long as they're violent, I'm okay with them. Otherwise they'd just be pussies.

>>730968502
So the OP pic are members acting independently?

Because antifa is by fascist , they shut down free speech and do not tolerate anyone who even remotely disagrees with them. Most of antifa doesn't even know the proper definition of fascism and just assume rascism is fascism.

>>730968334
You can't be real.

>>730968227
So, basically, you have no more authority to make a judgement call than any other citizen. Your view is just a valid as anyone else's.

>>730966773
No.
Started here in Germany.
Look it up.

AntiFa is a collective name for various groups around the world.

And stop making America central gto everything. You guys love attention, I get it-- but it is rather silly and now your egos are eating themselves.

>>730968568

The guys that have small dicks and cum under a minute if a gril touches them?

>>730968728
Don't insult fascists by comparing the two.

>>730968561
Im getting the impression that you want assault rifles to be banned. If thats the case and you make the argument that they kill more people therefore we should ban them, why not ban handguns as well? Handguns are involved in OVERWHELMINGLY more murders than any other gun. This is not cherrypicking. These are the stats. If you are taking the approach assault rifles kill too many people, it would be a fallcious argument unless you say you also want handguns to be banned

>>730968688
>using green text wrong
lurk moar cucko

>>730952817
One, I do declare myself to be fascist, and two, the entire thing is fucking stupid. They are a bunch of spineless cowards who find nothing but strength in numbers, coming to "protest" against the most cuckservative and jew-runned things they possibly can, and they start calling people "Fascist" when the cuckservatives punch them in the face. I feel marginalized and oppressed by their constant labeling of people as "fascist". I'm not an insult, I'm a person.

>>730968258
Yeah, I believe you. So you're fighting midget neonazis then?

That doesn't seem fair. You big manly fucked up piece of euro trash.

>>730954339
Very few gun related murders happen with "assualt weapons"

>>730966878
Hey look-- more white nationalist lies.
Keep trying , kid.
I am sure one day you'll get a other retard to buy your bullshit.

>>730968568
>The Minutemen will give you a war you won't believe.
You mean like that time they took over a semi abandoned office building but forgot to bring food?

>>730968832
Correct. And I'll respect everyone else's opinions as long as they don't violate the basic civil rights that we, as a society, have agreed upon.

>>730966905
Citizen of Germany and of Ireland.

>>730968636
catching up on the rest of the thread and watching the talking-points college kids get rekt

like
>>730953589

and enjoying antifa supporters trying to pull off the mental gymnastics required to defend shutting down others opinions and discussion with violence

>>730968975
i cant anwser so ill say he is a white nationalist and call him a liar

>>730952817
so called antifa is behaving like fascists. that's why people hate them

>>730968665
I think I have everyone beat in the age department.

>>730968725
No that is a local organization. I have no problem understanding some "members" of antifa are violent, and I'm not going to justify that, but they aren't lying about it like a bunch of pussies.

Trump-tards can't own anything, literally everything is "the lefts" fault, our traditional line of thinking is superior, and we are totally innocent straight edges.

>>730968853

Just because you don't know shit about American history doesnt mean we change historical figures because of black slang. Besides, a little on the nose, werent you?

>>730969156
i am 94
come at me bro

>>730968832
No, not everyones view is as valid as the next guys. Maybe if you believe there is no such thing as right from wrong. Assuming yu believe in an objective way to decide right from wrong, obviously someones views will be more/less valid from someone elses.

This is just a as good as a belief as
>perception is reality

No its fucking not. Hitlers view was not as valid than the jews he was killing unless you truly believe that reality is only what YOU percieve.

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>>730968922
>got technical degree from 4chan.com

Seriously, you are dumb as fuck

>>730952817
You're obviously fucking retarded. It's better if you kys

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Quite simple really. Anywhere they go they bring violence and they do nothing but advocate it. For any one "peaceful" protest you show that ANTIFA has participated in, it's easy to produce 10 where they have attacked people, businesses and women.

Antifa wants violence so they will get it but Patriots should blend in with Antifa, throw off black garb from behind their lines. A few already doiing but need more loan wolves.

>>730969297
yes. yes i am.

>>730969242
Kek. Hahaha. Nice anon. Thanks, I deserved that. 8-)

>>730952817
Fuck ANTIFA. I a full proponent of the white male oligarchy. It was not women working their asses off working the high iron, building our cities. It was not women who build empires in banking, transportation and energy. It was not until after WII that blacks fought and died for the USA. No woman ever has, (although to be fair, some supply specialists have ben caught in the crossfire) It was the superior wisdom and intellect of the White American Male that build the mightiest economic and military power in the world. So, fuck these little pussy snowflakes. Ready to throw down with the dominant American Male? Get ready to meet your ancestors. You gutless wonders won't stand up to someone will or able to fight a blood duel with you. Set foot outside liberal urban enclaves and get ready to bleed.

>>730967639
I'm 36 soon to be 37.
I'm a business consultant that specializes in international relations and global risk management.
To sum up what those are: basically I represent my company abroad, draft legal documents according to the laws of the new country and also research potential dangerous areas or possibilities for future business ventures.

I enjoy living in the German system of Rhineland-Socio-Capitalism. I hate fascism and communism in equal measure.

>>730952817
Tits or gtfo! We have rules here

>>730952817
spiderman out of fucking nowhere

>>730952817
Are you trying to imply someone wanting something different than someone else, and that person expressing their idea, is fascism?

If so, you're retarded.

>>730964736
fucking lefty

>>730968989


We'll see.

Just remember you were advised that violence to attack free speech will be met with organized, no frills defense.

>>730969261
The point i was making was everyone is going to have a viewpoint, and not all viewpoints will be the same. Since all viewpoints will not be the same, you must get over the fact you are going to hear things you do not like, and must accept to agree to disagree. Otherwise you are just a dick.

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>>730969532
Right on, fellow anon. I almost felt alone in here. Thanks for posting that. It made me smile.

>>730967822
Hey-- so am I.
Gebirgsjäger.
Toured Afghanistan.
4 confirmed kills.

Do you even know what that is?


You're a disgrace for the uniform.
Your fellow soldiers were black,Asian,Hispanic.

You marines are a bunch of stupid pussies.
"Its too cold!" "I needs ma' smokes!"

You guys just bitch. And apparently share naked photos of each other?
Phft. Hahaha

>>730969171
Some local organizations. All preaching violence.
>rosecityantifa org
>nycantifa wordpress com
>www facebook com/antiFaUSA
>antifascistnetwork org

>>730969217

You don't know shit about History. At no time were there Bolsheviks in America. You're fucking stupid.

>>730965549
of course there is, in france for instance, and it should be more. nationalism is needed to keep things tight in the upcoming war

>>730969261
And EVERYTHING is a matter of perception. This is true FACT.

The good news is the liberal left has eviscerated the Trump administration. It's gutted and powerless. Trump will resign or be impeached, and we'll forget about him completely 10 seconds later.

They're hypocrites. They use and endorse tactics which were employed by actual fascists under the guise that they're freedom fighters. They're introducing violence into the political process and using said violence to disallow speech which they disagree with. They also label their opponents and critics as nazis, relying on this sort of ad-hominem nonsense to make up for their inability to sustain their irrational ideas in a free, peaceful debate. Who needs an open marketplace of ideas when you can hold the merchants at gunpoint?
Basically, people hate antifa because they are fighting pretend fascists by becoming real fascists.

>>730969790
I agree but thats very edgy language to use in justifying that. I apologize for being snappy, and i have no idea what your political views are but i said it from a nuetral standpoint. I know people and consistently meet people who geniunely believe that everyone can be "right" at the same time and literally say "your opinion is as valid as mine."

It doesnt make sense to me because in that case, why do jails exist? etc etc etc

Thanks for clarifying.

>>730969960
I hope this is bait. I try and seperate what i feel during an LSD trip and what i feel when im sober. gtfo out of here with the whole "what is perception?? whoa dude what if green to me is really blue to you, but we both call it green so neither of us know"

Reality is fact, perception is distorted by your values and beliefs.

>>730952817
just because you call yourself anti fascist doesnt mean you arent a facisct, which what antifa is. they declare who is a fascist and who isn't and if you haven't noticed, nowadays pretty much everyone gets called nazi hitler fascist so they are justifying violence against whoever they please.

also quit your fucking diversity bullshit, i dont give a fuck what some minority feels, if their rights arent infringed they can shut the fuck up

>>730970003
And then you'll remember Pence, who is worse than Trump in every way and is squeaky clean.

>>730967856
You said what you wanted, right?
That's free speech.

I shoot you?
Well, sure you're dead.
But what I did is a crime.

Those are two different sets of arguments.

Free speech doesn't protect you from getting your shit kicked.
The law protects you from assault, for whatever reason.

But still, no where does it say "free speech means you're also protected from people you piss off".

Just the government can't stop you. No one can stop you. But as a private citizen? I can commit a crime of assault.

I fully recognize it is a crime.

Do I care? No.
Because I am dealing with people that also don't care.

I.mean-- you said justification.
Only those that are not really commited to their task tries to use justification.
They are unsure.

I know my enemy and for me it is ideological. For them? Their enemy is anyone not born just like them. That's our difference.

>>730952817
Fuck off, cowards. You middle-class fucken white people will go back to your cushy lives after this phase because this is pretend. Once you feel punches from the enemy you run lime cowards. Who pepper sprays women? Antifa. Get lost.

>>730968523
I'm half Irish.
We use the word wank.
Only you silly yanks use "jacking off"

>>730970358
>speech is protected by the first ammendment
>considers any opinion that doesnt align with minoritybeliefs hate speech
>wants hate speech punishable by law

>>730968523
Na.
My kid is actually a young model.
Not even joking.

But you and your hillbilly cousin fucking DNA?
I'd be shocked to see you having the normal number of adult teeth and uncrossed eyes.

>>730970239
>Reality is fact, perception is distorted by your values and beliefs.
Wow, I had no idea I would be exchanging with Dennis Miller tonight, lol.
But it is the fact that everyone has their values and beliefs that declares that perception is everything.

>>730969862
Disgrace to the uniform eh? We're you stationed in Germany in the late 80's and early 90's when all the niggers on base started to attack us white soliders? Probably not.

Don't know my exact "confirmed" kills but it's over twenty. Afghanistan, Iraq (2 tours) and Somila. Oh and the whole Beirut thing in 1982. Just missed that one.

Plus, I really don't believe you ever served.

Semper Fidelis mfer.

>>730970287

That's not the point. Trump is crushed. His brand has no worth. He is in an unrecoverable tailspin and it is because he is not suitable to lead, nor does he have the morals of a leader.

So he's out. It's democracy by popular vote. Pence might get to drive for a few minutes once Trump is ditched, but he has no traction with America either. More than half of us just want them both gone ASAP.

This country needs another Obama.

>>730970449
Half potato nigger.

>>730968936
I'm 6'2"

You guys tend to be on the short side.
I don't know why either.
If it makes you fell better, manlet, the Dutch might pitty you, because their average height is 6'5"

>>730970648
Well thats the tragedy of our society today. People let their BELIEFS change their PERCEPTION of REALITY

>>730952817
To put it simply, Antifa are a bunch or whiny, entitled babies; self professed victims of absolutely nothing, who believe that everyone right of Karl Marx is 'literally Hitler'.

>>730953308

This.

Any group, any ideology that does not embrace free speech an expression in all forms can go to hell, because it's likely they are just replacing one system of oppression with another.

If you feel you are threatened by alternative views then maybe your shit isn't as good as you though it was.

>>730970701
Nigger detected.

>>730970701
I'd settle for not a Hillary.

Which is how Trump got into power in the first place.

>>730970701
In 4 years.

>>730970239
>Reality is fact, perception is distorted by your values and beliefs.

>Perception (from the Latin perceptio, percipio) is the organization, identification, and interpretation of sensory information in order to represent and understand the environment. All perception involves signals in the nervous system, which in turn result from physical or chemical stimulation of the sense organs.

What we consider facts and reality is completely formed by perception, what we think we know has been filtered by not just values and beliefs, but the nature of our own possibly faulty perception which is foundational to all those values and beliefs.

>>730970834
Painfully true!

>>730970901

49 yr old retired Marine. Married for 23 years and three kids.

Sorry, but racism won't save your president or your party. In fact, racism is the reason it is nearing extinction.

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>>730971095
You're joking, right?

>>730971095
Prove it.
Also, how many confirmed kills do you have?

>>730971095
>the "all republicans are racist old white men" meme
lol

>ANTIFA accepts ALL, and is made up of people from all backgrounds so what stops you from supporting them?
Lies, if you are not anarcho-communist they will hate you.

>>730970701

This country needs a not globalist corporate puppet, and you aren't going to get that if you keep voting Republican and Democrat.

Have to reduce spending, have to keep revenue coming in, have to actually implement solutions to problems and improve them by analyzing the results instead of kicking the can down the road because of idiotic partisan issues.

>>730952817
BECAUSE THEY'RE FASCISTS, YOU RETARD.
They themselves are what they are against.

>>730971008
Nono it doesnt work like that. I rob a store and take $200 out of the register. Just because the perception of the man i held at gunpoint was an asian guy and not a white guy (like me) and thats what he tells the cops, doesnt mean that it wasnt in fact me who robbed the store.

Just because you see a news article saying something and you had previous opinions on the fact based on your values and beliefs, does NOT mean the article was giving truthful evidence based on reality.

With perception, the way you feel is reality. Reality does not care how you feel or perceive something.

Trying to justify perception = reality is extremely pretentious.

>>730970701

Trump is fine. A bunch of loud, cry babies protesting every day doesn't mean a fucking thing to the people who elected him and he can win the exact same districts again doing the exact same shit.

>>730971165

LOL. Sorry kid. You pushed Trump, you're stuck with him. Gotta run the horse you brung.

And your horse is dead in the gates.

>>730970804
What exactly is your point?

Who gives a shit about your height? Some of our niggers are taller than that. I suppose that makes them superior.

If you're in Germany, shouldn't you be in bed, fucking your wife? What she's not home? So thats why you're on 4chin.
She's out fucking those filthy sandniggers, with much bigger dicks than you. Taking loads up her ass. And you're stuck at home, watching your tarded children. Nice.

>>730971095
>Sorry, but racism won't save your president or your party.
>your president
>president
>P R E S I D E N T

Because antifa was distorted from the start.

Its someone else using mindless dones to create unrest to further their purpose.

>>730971234

I'm a medic.

>>730952817
Because they're the literally embodiment of facism. How is that not obvious to most people?

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My Führer is tight, son.

>>730971394

LOL. Trump is certainly NOT "fine".

He can't even show up in public without being booed. Anywhere. I call that losing miserably. A loser who has lost.

>>730971008

This. So many people think they are incapable of being wrong about anything even though they have no expertise on a subject. They internalize the first ideas they come into contact with and then rationalize everything to fit their worldview. The are completely unwilling to accept that a dissenting opinion could even have the slightest bit of merit, and that is how we find ourselves in our current predicament.

>>730970660
--->Insults his fellow Marines
----->Doesn't actually know his confirmed count (that never happens, so suuureee you did)

And you dolt-- I am well into my 30's.

You do know that means I had to serve in either the German military or civilian services?

I signed and did well enough to go to our elite Mountain unit. Loved it.

And yes, you're a disgrace if you really served---
No soldier insults his fellow soldiers with racism. It has no place in the military.
Once in uniform, skin colour means nothing.

And you insult the very thing you swore to protect-- the American republic with democracy.

Semper Fi. Hahahahahahaha.

Youre an old fuck now if true.
You'd not last, boy-o, with a far more recently released soldier from an elite unit.

Doesn't know a confirmed kill count. Hahahaha

>>730971470
So over 300 confirmed kills because you're a clumsy fuck.

>>730953308
free speech is a failed experiment