Is liberalism a mental illness? If so, how should it be treated?

>>730875140
Weak bait. End your life kike

>>730875140
The only reasoning protestors will listen to is rack and pinion reasoning

>>730875140
Fuck off back to pol

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op is fag

>>730875140
Go back to pol with other white nigers

>>730875295
Weaker bait, kill yourself shill.

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Heat treat it, of course.

>forged in fire

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>>730875464
samefag

off yourself, SJW nigger

>>730875554
This.

Leftism is like a deadly virus, likes aids or cancer. It' contagious and the only cure is the death of the host.

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>>730875575
1st referenced comment here, kill yourself lib-cuck. The only samefag here is you, kill yourself OP.

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>>730875541
OP is in denial. Off yourself negroid.

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All you newfags should just kill yourselves so we can get back to talking shit about Bush, like back in my day.

Pic fucking related.

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>>730875942
Continuous samefagging. Nigger's need to learn.

>>730876074
This is despite the fact that the number of posters in this thread is 9. You absolute retard.

>>730875140
Both liberalism and conservativism are mental ilnesses. Socialism is the only sane ideology.

>>730876074
own up to it op. there's no use running. we're as much different people as you're a baiting faggot

>>730876294
communism*
stupid nigger

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>>730876370
gr8b8m88/8

>>730875140
Hate to tell you, but the 'liberals' won the Civil War. And the American Revolution, now that I think about it. Learn some history you retarded faggot.

do "liberals" really exist?

everybody I ever encounter ranges from conservative to full-on libertarian, both on the political "right" side.

In fact, I do not believe that anybody will genuinely respond to this post saying that they voted for Hillary and actively want a larger nanny government. I mean, aside from trolls.

>>730875575
awwwwww do you need to go back to pol your safe space so you're don't get triggered

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>>730876521
Lincoln was literally a Republican. Quit your bullshit you SJW brainwashed cuck. Stop browsing Reddit.

>>730876758

Every single person I work with is a liberal.

>>730875140
My 2 cents: My dad had me on a firing range at 6 years old. I'm 53 now. Hood rats never had fathers and they shoot sideways and don't hit shit. It will be a very short civil war.

>>730876876
Yep. And during that time (why it's called history), the Democrats kept slaves and the 'liberal' Republicans wanted to free them.

>>730876758
Finally, someone who gets it.

>>730876939
what kind of opinions do they have that make them a liberal?

>>730877051
Yeah, then the dixie switch happened.

god damn it this fucking shit again

>>730875140
Just as you can post a picture of a dumb nigger next to some redneck filth holding a gun for comparison, I could make a post comparing backwoods trash to an intelligent, and capable liberal. In other words, go back to your containment board you filthy inbred pieces of shit.

>>>/pol/

>>730876989
My 2 cents you're old as fuck get off 4chan you faggot.

>>730876758
Suck a big fat dick

>>730877204
Exactly. But since OP skipped history class to suck cock the faggot didn't know that.

your bait is gayer than a trap

>>730877307
My understanding is you have to be 18 to be here. Moot never said shit about the other end of the spectrum, faggot, so your opinion means dick.

>>730877570
daddy, could you give me cummies?

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Yeah like the same intellect that voted a idiot like Trump in is going to be much of a challenge. Shouldn't you be working? After all you got a wall to pay for cuck.

>>730877614
I already did, you were just too young to remember. That's why you have an urge to kill yourself all the time.

>>730877807
daddy, being this angry isn't good for your blood pressure. I'm not even the anon who you're angry at.

>>730877204
oh shut up. the republicans have always wanted to do the morally right thing. end slavery. give women rights. equal rights for everybody. freedom. They still want to do morally right things like get rid of drugs and terrorism and pedos and people that live on welfare without trying to work

>>730875140
dont you faggot forget conservatives have imported niggers from africa
in my country there are no niggers and no guns , crime rate is low tho its a shithole , murders almost never happen

>>730877905
Just saw and fucked my doctor the other day. Meds, heart, BP all A okay. Ready for some young rump. You'll do in a pinch.

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>>730875140
>Is liberalism a mental illness?

Yes, as is conservatism.

Funnily enough they both have the same cure.

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Dont kid urself pussy ass white boy this is what conservatives are really like

>>730878042
>no guns
Thank you but no thank you. I'd rather die than live in that shithole.

>>730876521
Liberalism wasn't the same back in the First Civil War. Liberalism in those times is what you lib-tards call Conservatism today.

>>730875140

Fake conservatism is a mental illness--it's a disgraceful feedback loop that rewards xenophobia, racism, bigotry, anti-education and anti-science.

To even call these subhumans "conservative" is wrong. They don't conserve shit. They're the greediest, nastiest, most warmongering money thieves in US history. They should be called Regressives--because that's all they ever do--try to negate every civil rights victory in history, dragging us all back to the fucking Dark Ages.

FUCK the right. They all need to be institutionalized, electroshocked and FORCED to learn basic academic facts.

Liberalism in the US ins literally synonymous with sanity and being educated.

>>730875140
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>730875464

this.

Every day is Punch A Nazi Day.

Good night, "Alt-Right"

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>>730875140
Yes.

With bullets.

>>730876876

Lincoln was a TRUE Republican. They have been extinct for decades.

The values of the real Republicans are the values of the current Democrats. They are also both right-of-center parties.

>>730878480
Into the oven you go, jew.

>>730876989

My 2 cents: You're uneducated, barely conscious hillbillies and you will VERY quickly learn that no where near all white people agree with your retarded and completely erroneous views.

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>>730876876

Republican is not the same thing as it was 150 years ago you fucking faggot

>>730878957
Now post the one where he and Hitler are both drinking water.

Fucking retard.

both sides are shit.

Small government and let people lie in the bed they made. Stop trying to ban guns.

Fuck off with religion and keep your moral bullshit to yourself. Stop pretending trickle down works. Rich get richer because humanity is a cancer at heart.

>>730878759

Extremely white atheist of European descent here, faggot.

TRY to push me somewhere. I fucking dare you. That's right. I know EXACTLY why you crybaby faggots keep trying your cowardly attacks in Berkeley--it's because you would fucking DIE almost anywhere else.

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>>730879062

nah I respect Hitler to an extent - he had charisma

>>730878450

Truth... It's not that Republicans have changed much at all, it's that Democrats went from one crazy extreme ideology to another at the opposite end of the spectrum; all while figuring out how to replace plantation slavery with ghetto slavery.

>>730879249

Sadly, this. Trump is the most retarded, most narcissistic, lowest piece of brain-dead orangutan shit in the world. He pales in comparison to any other REAL leader, and he'd have been terminated less than a week into his fake presidency if it wasn't for the subhuman traitors in the GOP protecting him. ALL of them deserve to fucking hang for it.

>>730879381

the republicans have completely changed also. They went from small government, to military industrial complex, they went from the goverment not butting into your life to JESUS CRIES WHEN YOU KILL BABIES.

Both parties don't in anyway resemble their original incarnations.

>>730877746
This

>>730878897
Left coast white liberal detected. Come to the heart land, boy. Us whiteys here know what is what and we all are ready for the shit. We laugh every night watching you pussies with your pepper spray and masks. It's going to be hard to mace someone when you are double tapped center mass from 100 yards away. PROTIP: From that distance we won't even be able to smell it at all.

>>730878480

It's the fact that you believe this that is evidence f your delusion. If you can sway enough people to your insanity, there will bean other civil war in the future.

unless you're on wellfare no one really has a reason to support liberals.

unless you're making over 250k a year you have no business supporting republicans.

You should all pull your head out of your ass and start voting people over parties.

>>730879381

>Truth
Not even fucking close

>Republicans haven't changed much

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

Jesus Christ you people are fucking retarded. Even Downies are embarrassed by the shit that comes out of your mouths.

>fuh fuh fuh the DEMOCRATS derp derp derp

They've been one thing and one thing only since the fucking 50s when the party ideologies switched and that's Capitalist Egalitarian. That's why they're responsible for every single civil rights victory since the end of the Civil War, while the republicunts have to keep courting slack-jawed idiots and Klansman.

>ghetto slavery

That would be Nixon's political War of Drugs and Reagan's corporate crony gentrification of the urban cityscapes, faggot.

>>730875140
Nope. Classify "Mental Illness"

>>730879520

You must be to young to realize that prior to Roe v Wade in 1973, almost every national political was vehemently anti abortion; Kennedy, Johnson, MLK, Truman, Roosevelt... Abortion only became sacrosanct during the women's lib movement of the 70/ during the Dems hard left turn in the wake of the '68 DNC riot and the nomination of McGovern.

>>730879574

>we know what is what

Your education scores tell a different story.

>pussies with pepper spray and masks

You mean the Alt-Right?

>WE'S GONNA KILL YOU WIF OUR GUNZ CUA WE DISAGREE POLITICALLY

See my first point. You people are fucking pathetic. You know what my favorite fact is? You are in more danger of TODDLERS than of Arab "terrorists". So keep getting gunned down by your own disgustingly irresponsible handling and keeping of your precious firearms, retards. We'll still be laughing at you and hoping against hope that you eventually become educated someday so you can stop being the laughingstock of the entire fucking planet.

>>730876989
>53 and still hangs out with 14 year old bois on /b/
>i thought i was bad being 26 and posting here
>ur older than my mom and dad you old perv!

>>730879677

Pretty sure we need to get rid of all the subhuman Trumpanzees for the good of the nation anyway. Meh. Two birds.

>>730879930
>That's why they're responsible for every single civil rights victory since the end of the Civil War

LBJ and the welfare act: "I'll have those niggers voting democrat for 200 years." Yeah, good move.

>>730879381
The president now is a literal nigger that wouldn't let middle America lick his asshole.

>>730880310
Stop lying, nigger. You don't have a father.

>>730880434

>Meanwhile, you retards are shrugging off the motherfucking Klan and Neo-Nazi shut-ins doing victory laps over the fact that this country is being destroyed by the anti-American trash in the GOP.

>>730875140
Yes.
> Pick Related

>>730879930

Ad hominem a are all I would expect from a Leftist troll.

Also you said capitalist egalitarian and I thought you meant the GOP, then I realized you meant the Dems?!? They voted against the Civil Rights Act; it only passed with overwhelming GOP support. Since then there hasn't been any civil right legislation at all, unless you equate giving people other people's money "civil rights"

>>730880596
Do you have a dehumidifier in your mom's basement? You should get one....or not.

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mmmm delicious bait

>>730875698
Cancer
>virus
>contagious
Typical trumptard

>>730880794

Dude, seriously, that guy is gonna get sick with swamp fever and have to cancel his Gay for Mao dick-sucking contest.

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>>730875140
This is why I'm not afraid either.

>>730880712

Right around the time you forced us to contend with brain-damaged shit like Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann was the time I gave up trying to have meaningful arguments with your ilk. You're too fucking stupid to acknowledge even the most basic facts, so what hope is there for me that you'll grow the fuck up and become educated, decent human beings??

>Since the Civil Rights Act there haven't been any civil rights legislation

Case. In. Fucking. Point.

>>730880794

I live in my own place and I have a great career. Like the majority of democrats, I am educated as well and have never taken any form of welfare.

Cry. Fucking. Harder.

Both of those stereotypes, in actuality, affect the right wingers FAR more than the "blue staters".

>>730880993

Funny. I'm actually a very moderate liberal outside of the whole Egalitarian side of things. I will say this much though, it's hilarious and fucking sad that you fucking retards still resort to ad hominem insults based on FAR left despotism, considering the United States doesn't even fucking HAVE a left at present.

>>730877993
>get rid of drugs
>continuing the most socially destructive policies next to slavery
>good
Wew lad

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>>730877993

>Equal rights
>Republicans

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>>730877993
>the republicans have always wanted to do the morally right thing.

>>730881405
>I live in my own place and I have a great career. Like the majority of democrats, I am educated as well and have never taken any form of welfare.

Got five years left on my note. Living on the lake with 65 acres of land and a double boat slip. Nearest town is 14 miles away. College educated. I think I won this shit.

>>730875140
https://youtu.be/utX-8-dDwik

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>>730875140
You have been poorly informed.

We have weapons too, fuckwit.

>>730875140
>conservatives still think war is won on the battlefield with brute strength

This is why you'll lose.

>>730881989
But you shoot them sideways and don't hit a fucking thing, NIGGER.

No, but being a conservative is a sign of idiocy.

>>730882107
Oh, so all ISIS has to do is protest and they win?

>>730879472
That's just what they want you to think

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>>730878158
listen to this guy

>>730875295
Poor sambo is butthurt.

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>>730882403
Your ignorance is your weakness.

>>730882684

"they" who? There is NO subterfuge or subtlety in the brazen, anti-American actions of the GOP right now.

They are the ENEMY of all true Americans and nothing more.

>>730875140
Except this librul cuck has four AR platforms ans 2.5K rounds of .223.

whatever you think of liberals, they control around 80% of the u.s economy between new york, california, washington, etc.

The entire tech industry belongs to them, as well as wallstreet and every major shipping port in the u.s between newyork, new jersey, california and washignton.


If there was a civil war, conservative states would be quickly starved for resources. Sorry dudes. Same reason the south lost the first time.

>>730875903
r dees niggas Viet?

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>>730885369
>thinks wall street is liberal

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>>730883065
>sambo

>>730885369
The best you could hope for if this actually came to fruition is receding from the liberal parts of the u.s. If that actually happened (which is unlikely as fuck), the conservative parts of the u.s would end up as pretty much a third world country, excluding maybe texas and florida.

Low population spaced out across a huge land mass with a new government, and surrounded by wealthy enemies with a larger population on all coasts is a huge recipe for disaster.

>>730885528
It doesn't matter what political alignment the people who use wallstreet are. They invest where money is, and that'd be the liberal coasts.

You think politics matter more to them than money? They'd fund whatever area could guarantee importing and exporting would continue. That'd be the coast, aka liberal/progressive/democratic states.

>>730877746
/thread

>>730877746
suddenly every leftist is a lawyer.

Doesn't contain any outright successes, like withdrawing from the TPP.

Muslim bans, well they weren't attempts to ban Muslims. It was an attempt to pause migration from 7 known Terrorist hot spots. Activist judges have gotten in the way. (7 countries identified by intelligence agencies under Obama, and listed in previous bills passed by Congress and signed into law by Oabama.)

He will donate the salary to a charity.

And in case you can't tell, a contradicting viewpoint isn't an endorsement for Trump, let alone fascism.

>>730885870
>>730885718
Also, I aint even a liberal. Just someone who has the common sense to realize manhattan is a more valuable asset alone than pretty much every landlocked state in the u.s.

>>730875140
Most of my military family is quite liberal, and they say it's common.

>>730876989
Under what scenario can you envision a civil war between two political ideologies? What would they fight over?

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ITT: a bunch of pansy nogunz liberals butthurt because they're just now realizing they're going to lose the race war they're inciting.

Get rekt cucks. There's no going back now.

Browsing /pol/ is sign of mental illness.

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>>730887043
...He said on /b/

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>>730875140

Go back
>>>/pol/

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>>730875140
Modern day liberalism is most definitely a mental illness. In some regards t's a new religion in itself. It's an all encompassing outlook on life that destroys identity and confidence.
Look at the marxist rally. Look at the propensity towards shriveled up males with not a shred of muscle to be seen on them. As well fat dykes with unnatural hair colours. Of course these are signs of mental weakness and depression.
The way you think is the way you feel, and if you think the staunch brand of liberalism promoted is truth, then chances are you're going to feel like shit!

>>730887260

/pol/ is /b/'s /b/.

They are collectively a group that could die outright and not a goddamned thing of any perceivable value would be lost. If /pol/ had a convention and a bomb was dropped on it, the loss to the planet would be the EXACT cost of the materials that went into the construction of the bomb.

>>730887552

>free speech

>literal tinfoil hat wearing Neo-Nazi subhumans

You're funny. COMPLETELY retarded, but funny.

I'll take the anarchists over fucking white supremacists ANY day. Hell, make it legal to kill them and I'll be decorating my own personal Bone Throne within hours.

>>730887552
100% correct

>>730881108
So uh, just reread your post.
Then think about how you somehow believe you're a being of higher intelligence and authority while you're demonizing more than half of a country of 300 million people.
I think if you do all of that, you'll see why those 'dumb' folks don't seem to care what you say or think over the internet.

>>730888394
I second this.

with a bullet to the head

>>730888934
Liberals believe they're of some higher intelligence because most of the time they literally are.

This isn't even me trying to call you out. Google IQ by state, education level by state, and political alignment by state. You'll see the trend pretty quickly.

That's not to say that I think conservatives and republicans are dumb, but dumb make up far more of your party on average than the left.

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>>730875140
OP check this out. 100% proof that liberalism is a mental illness

>>730888238
I'm sure their feelings are very hurt by your words.

>>730888394
Weak b8

>>730889299
>says liberalism
>means alt left crazies that even progressives wont associate with.

Wanting people to not get treated like shit for living life how they want when it doesn't effect anyone but themselves does not = tumblr-tier communism.

If you legitimately think the entire left is like this, you need to leave your basement and stop reading alt right propaganda. I grew up in newyork and have literally met one person like this. They're just the loudest on our side, just like the left thinks your side is all nazis. Stop being retarded please. Republicans and democrats are less of enemies than the alt right and alt left are to them.

>>730876989

Whats your fav gun my fellow oldfag?

>>730888394
>it's ok to kill people based on their ideology
You are the retarded one.

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>>730889220
lol shut the fuck up cuckboiii

>>730889569
>you need to leave your basement and stop reading alt right propaganda
LoL I go to a super liberal university and it is all I deal with. You seem to be suffering from a similar stockholm symdrome. All US citizens who believe in our current government are suffering from this...

>>730889569
Get off of this site, faggot

>>730875903
I had no idea there was a video.

>>730875140
Ask Michael Savage.

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>>730878158

>>730889539

>b8

Literal , factual argument. But I know it makes you butthurt to think about how you support the Party of Stupid and rub elbows with drooling retards who think the Bible should be the only subject taught in schools, so feel free to keep claiming I'm trolling you.

>>730889569
>
Your post. Just lol...
The 'tumblr-tier communists' on 'your side' (notice your collectivist attitude?) are just a product of the thought patterns that are rolled out at colleges and universities.
The underlying stupidity that underpins the modern-day left is the abiding by relativism and guilt induced thinking styles.
If you still vote Dems, guess what? You're a collectivist!
Just because the 'tumblr-tier communists' are blinded by simple logic, doesn't mean you're much better.

>>730889519

I'm sure they would be if they could read.

>>730875140

>>>/pol/

stop polluting this board with non-/b/ related topics

>>730876186
>this

>>730889650

Nope. As I said before, I am actually educated, successful, employed in a career and INTELLIGENT. These things equate to me having value to society, this nation and this planet.

It's the right wingers who fail in every aspect of that and the further right the more worthless and clinically retarded they are.

>>730890481
>non-/b/ related topics

It's a random board. Everything is a /b/ related topic. Or would you prefer it just stuck to traps, bananas, and pics you shouldn't share?

>>730876758
I have friends from many groups, left and right. Everywhere from a Trans man, to a family of off the grid survivalists who hunt their own food, and a Regan loving silicon valley gun nut. Left, center, right, and everywhere in between. We can all get along and talk civilly. So if you hate a certain group so intensely that their meer existence makes you so angry you can't avoid talking about stripping them of their humanity the problem isn't your politics, it's that you're a shitty person. Maybe think about working on that.

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>>730890327
This made me kek and I'm a commiefag

>>730889861
Ah, a liberal university. Because that's any indication of the actual social climate in the u.s.

>something like 25-45% of people in each state actually go to college
>liberals are significantly more likely to seek higher education
>"but i'm surrounded by crazy liberals so all of them must be like this!"

It's only an example and not any statistical evidence, but most of the kids i grew up with in NY were like this
>gays get married? sure why not.
>guns? yeah those are ok.
>equality is good.
>melting pot multiculturalism is good, everyone contributes to a primary culture and this creates a universal identity so the population can be happier and feel less isolated
>seperatist multiculturalism is bad, and causes terrorism
>taxes can be good or bad depending how they're used
>taxes in this country need a ridiculous reform
>big businesses are assfucking this country by receiving the equivalent of welfare benefits from the government due to extreme corruption

You talk to a republican in the age 20-30 age group, they're probably going to agree with most of the above. People want to pretend each side is their most extreme, but most people sit somewhere in the middle and pick sides based on the extremism they see from the other.

Basically, if alt right retards and alt left retards shut the fuck up, this country could actually get shit done in the way that was intended. Both sides working together and reaching agreements.


>protip, if you legitimately believe one side has all the right answers and the other is completely wrong, you've been indoctrinated into a cult of retardation.

>>730877204
Yea that's a bullshit theory that only holds grounds since millions of indoctrinated children were taught it that way.

If you did your own research you would be quite shocked at the results

>>730890627
> So if you hate a certain group so intensely that their meer existence makes you

with ONE exception: white supremacists. Suffer not a neonazi piece of shit to live.

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>>730890481
>non-/b/ related topics
>/b/ is the off topic board where anything goes
>tfw you want an off-topic non-off topic board
You've gone full retard

>>730890627
this.

>>730890729

I don't know who's more pathetic, you retards who legitimately still think the Republican Party is the same one Lincoln and Eisenhower were in or the scary delusional biblehumpers who legitimately don't "believe" in the Separation of Church and State.

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>>730875140
https://youtu.be/3UiPwc_8hOE

>>730884453
Won't do much against my 300 win mag at 1300 yards

>>730890596
>I am super intelligent because I vote left
I have never met a leftist who didn't regard himself as the smartest man on the planet. It's incredible witnessing such a widespread inferiority complex.
Bravo for continuing this very observable stereotype.

>>730878279
66% of voter turnout in Detroit voted for Hilary
while it is true that 1/2 of the voting demographic were white males without 4 year degrees and that is where the greatest groundswell of Trump support came from in Detroit (cheddar bob does fit the bill)
chances are he would vote with his black friends cause "gimme dat welfare"

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>>730890662
Alright one more

>>730891329
I've literally never met someone who voted because they thought they'd get welfare.

>>730891249

>I am super intelligent because I vote left

No, I vote left because I am intelligent.

It's a direct correlation.

Education = "left" politics.
Idiocy/easily manipulated = right politics.

>>730890708
This is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on /b/
You're just lumping people in together, declaring artificial ideological boundaries that don't actually exist and then parroting some terms you heard in the media just to make yourself sound semi-intelligent.
Get used to the fact that the world doesn't sing to your tune kiddo.
And consider killing yourself.

>>730876758
thats your problem

youre so isolated and sheltered youve become completely brainwashed

get the fuck out of whatever hick state you live in and actually talk to people that arent the same color as you

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qid65anUDhY

>>730891330

You DO know that both socialism and capitalism can exist simultaneously, right?

It's the EXTREMES that are bad and unstable. Extreme Capitalism is totalitarian government by the rich. Extreme Socialism is slavery to the government.

a balanced, REGULATED Capitalism is stable, just as a Socialist system that allows for ample freedom of enterprise is far more stable than a true Communist regime.

BALANCE is the key.

>>730891653
he probally never will grow up. which means he never will have sex.

>>730891000
Literally every thing the Republicans have done for the past 100ish years have been the same. I don't care that there was a shift in voters, I just care about the core values which have remained essentially the same.

And your retarded for only believing what was spoon fed to you

>>730891643

Uh....I think you must have misquoted...

What is the political faction for wishing everyone would chill the fuck out?

>>730891329
not to mention, welfare as a system is ridiculously fucking hard to abuse. Try getting unemployment when you've actually earned it, then come back and tell me retarded poor people have found a way to abuse this system.

Most of the people who bitch about welfare have literally no idea how it works, which is evident by them just referring to it as "welfare" when in reality it's like 20+ different systems, each one you'd have to apply for separately, which require things like, for example, to actually receive unemployment, you have to have worked for upwards of 6 months, sign up for your state's .gov job assistance website, fill out a few hours worth of forms that require things like official proof of your earned income, as well as tax returns if you claimed them, and any exemptions you've claimed.

You then have to prove you lost your job through no fault of your own (example, getting fired for being a shit worker = no unemployment). After all of that, they require you to apply for one job a week through the .gov website to remain a candidate after getting approved, and your first unemployment paycheck gets held until the 2nd pay period. So your first two weeks don't count. After all of this, if you've continuously applied weekly for local jobs through the .gov website, got approved, sent them all of the correct paperwork, and survived the waiting period of 1 pay period, you will receive about 30% of your former paycheck!

Congrations, you done it. Also, businesses get tax breaks for hiring people through .gov unemployment job search websites. So you'll likely get hired after that first application and become ineligible for any unemployment.

And that's one of the easiest forms of welfare to get. Welfare queens aren't an actual thing.

>>730891565
The easiest way to manipulate someone is to tell them they're intelligent.

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>>730891850
>Literally every thing the Republicans have done for the past 100ish years have been the same

>>730891850

>Republican core value is the same

Which value would that be? "Fuck the poor"?

>>730891933

This may be true...but it doesn't change the fact that the right platform is anti-science, anti-education and believes in Trickle Down, meanwhile the vast majority of college educated people, teachers, professors, scientists and atheists are overwhelmingly Democratic.

Hell, the IQ discrepancy between the "left" and right has been getting WIDER for the last 20 or so years.

>>730889299
Amazing how this can be reversed on most trumptards. Idiocy has 2 extremes, either selfishness or selflessness. Too much of either is retarded.

>>730877746
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>>730891330

>>730879574
I'm a fucking snowflake and will stomp your face.

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can someone explain to me why all these idiot class white hillbillies voted republican in the primaries?

if they had voted bernie, or even jill stein in the general election, we would currently be working on educating them to work building a green energy system and 21st century infrastructure.

Instead, they vote trump and are now being fucked over...as expected...

>>730891850

1920-1978 - "Classical" conservatives. Fiscally budget-minded, against changes to policy. Politically center-right.

1979-2010 -Neoconservatives -- VERY zealous fake Christians who believe in US hegemony and the "liberation" of less fortunate countries. FAR more willing to meddle in other nations and start wars. They are also married directly to billionaire corporatists. middle-right politics.

2011-present - Teapublicans/"traditionalists" - EXTREME right politics to the point of being authoritarian. Exploitative of racist and bigoted tendencies as well as Christianity in the uneducated population. Ayn Randian pseudo economic lunacy is the core tenet of this group of dangerous whackos. Would rather cheat to get what they want than earn it and nearly all of them are hyper partisan and think "compromise" is a four-letter word. Literally applauds the idea of poor people dying in the streets.

>>730892830

The Trump voters are the snowflakes.

>>730892865
tfw modern progressives and liberals are closer to classical conservatives than current republicans are. lol.

>>730892839
>idiot class
*idiot working class - or even unemployed, really.

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>>730892228
>
None of this is true. Not even on an observable scale. What has happened is conservatives don't speak up anymore due to how dominating the scene is at the moment. I think this is changing though, there are 'minor' incidents that are 'testing' the liberal ideology
The counter culture at present is to be a straight white male who leads a righteous lifestyle with God in their lives. It's an amazing timeline we're living right now.

>>730893197

The Democrats are actually further right fiscally than most classical Republicans ever were.

This is the core problem. The right is COMPLETELY uneducated and brainwashed to the point they can't even discern basic facts, so when Rush Limpballs and Saudi Oil's Faux News tell them the "extremist leftists" did this and that, they believe it. The United States doesn't even fucking HAVE a left. Both parties are right wing, one side is central/moderate right and the other is so far right they barely even show up on the standard radar anymore.

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>>730893427
>The counter culture at present is to be a straight white male who leads a righteous lifestyle with God in their lives.

>>730875140
All I see is two people who are desperate to show all of their facebook friends what a bad ass they are. Gun ownership in a nutshell. Pathetic.

South (conservative) lost against the north (liberals) in the civil war already you poor, rural fucks.

>>730893427

So this is what it looks like when the fake Christian persecution complex meets misguided, brainwashed far-right propaganda. Fascinating.

>>730890135
NPR had a story about it. The shooter is the chief of police.

The VC were going around to police officers' houses and killing the officers, or, if the officer wasn't there, killing their families. This guy was found hiding in a ditch a hundred yards from an officer's house, where the wife and children were found murdered. The officer was also best friends with the chief.

The chief ended up moving to America and trying to hide from all the murderous threats by misunderstanding cuckmericans because he obviously murdered a poor little good-hearted north Vietnamese.

The guy who took the picture, and got a Pulitzer for it, was sorry he took the picture given how much shit the chief got, who was evidently a really good guy.

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All you poorfag conservatives that think immigrants and black people are the enemies listen up

The real enemy is the fucking man

All those billionaire faggots at the top are exploiting you and keeping you distracted by pushing a racist, sexist, and homophobic agenda through your bullshit conservative media.

Just take 10 minutes to research that they fuck theyre telling you and youll realize its all bullshit

"The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. WORKING MEN OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE!"

>>730894033

>a really good guy

>fucking murders an unarmed man who is putting up no fight in cold blood

yeah no, fuck that piece of subhuman shit.

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>>730875140
Raising the minimum voting age to 21 would help a lot. There is nothing on Earth dumber and more gullible than an American teenager.

>>730894274
(Asshole can't read. Fuck you, you deserve to die like that child murderer did.)

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>>730894233

THIS.

Take a GOOD look at these three graphs and SEE the correlation.

>>730894394

Research indicates the exact opposite is true. Cute try though.

>>730894033
yeah, i already knew the story this is why i like the picture.

>>730894656
Hahaha, found the kiddo.

>>730894656
When they lowered it to 18, they were afraid of a new bulge of Democrat voters, but it turned out they mostly voted for Nixon.

>>730894732

>kiddo

I'm 30, faggot, but thanks for playing.

No, the younger generation is better informed and politically intelligent than the older generations. Technological advancements and the enabling of a global perspective through social media (at least before it was infested with Russia web brigade fake news) gave them global knowledge no previous generation could have dreamed of at their same age.

Similarly, the younger generation is also overwhelmingly democratic and progressive, particularly in social issues.

Once again, EDUCATION = voting democrat.

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>>730894918
>lying on 4chan about your age
>trying to convince people that teenagers aren't half-retarded

>>730895037

Sadly, I actually am 30 and having to put up with all this fucking retarded shit from people who aren't fit to serve me fries thinking they know what's best for the state of public education and social rights.

>>730875140

Not every single person who is left-leaning is an un-saveable fucknut. Only people on the extreme, which are no worse than people on the extreme right of the spectrum.

Anyone who is extremely inclined politically probably can't bear to tolerate people of other opinions which is problematic in itself. Everyone wants what is best, everyone simply has a different idea about the way to achieve what is best, and the very idea of "what is best" is.

If your perspective is so politically slanted that you are not willing to listen and understand someone's opinion that is different, then you are part of the problem. A complete lack of communication and willingness to listen is what is tearing our county apart politically.

People on the left think rights are inbred, racist bigots and possibly nazis while the right thinks the left are a bunch of mentally ill, special-snowflake pussies who can't handle the real world.

Both sides are looking at only the most extreme crowd of the other. Politics like most things are simply shades of gray. They're all shit when taken too far.

>>730890795

What is with the focus on white supremacists?

I certainly agree that thinking your own race is superior to others and wishing unwell on them is antisocial behavior that is potentially dangerous, but that goes for anyone of any kind of racial supremacy.

Why is there so much focus on the particularly "white" aspect of white supremacy? Racial superiority and nationalism should be lines of thought that should be phased out over time as the world becomes smaller, regardless of race.

>>730895753

Because white supremacy "values" is what has directed the Republican Party to veer further and further right and become more and more blatantly accepting of racism, bigotry and isolationism.

True, all racism is terrible, but the most powerful racism in this country is that of white, uneducated morons against all people of color. Not to mention #2 is the Christian-supremacy they exhibit in worse and worse ways these days.

Case in point: after 9/11, attacks on Sheiks and Indians QUINTUPLED. Same thing after Trump stole the election, particularly with Hispanics and Jews. They're violent, they're too stupid to be able to tell races apart and they are probably the most easily-manipulated group of retards on the planet.

>>730891802
Seriously, this.

Both sides of the political spectrum have diverged so much, and those voices seem to be the dominant ones now since they get the most publicity.

I do strongly believe that corporations control too much of the legislative process right now, but I dont think it should be fully eliminated. There is a balance to everything.

>>730896075

Just because some values that are white supremacist are shared with some values that are conservative don't mean the two are inherently aligned. I really don't see how the right is becoming "blatantly accepting of racism and bigotry." Isolationism and nationalism most definitely, but neither of those ideas are inherently racist.

>the most powerful racism in this country is that of white

I'd agree with that simply by population. Still, I do not believe a large or % of the white population in the country are active racists, (I believe almost all people are "passive" racists who possess racially charged thoughts but never act or speak upon them, it's human nature.) I would guess approximately 5-15% of whites are actual racists who believe their race is superior. The number will shrink as time passes and isn't much of an issue in my mind.

>Not to mention #2 is the Christian-supremacy they exhibit in worse and worse ways these days.

That's unfortunately normal, all religions teach to themselves that their religion is the one true one and the others are lies- this circular logic always results in a prejudice against other religions. While I do think Christianity is very guilty of this, wouldn't you agree that Islamic extremism is much more of a problem relative to Christianity?

I found it strange that people were angry at Trump trying to give Christians leeway during his immigration ban when Christians are a minority that face very violent prejudice in many Islam-dominant cultures. I thought the left liked defending minorities? (I do believe other non-Islamic religions should be included as protected classes.)

>Same thing after Trump stole the election, particularly with Hispanics and Jews.

Was this really the case? There was so much buzz about "white hate crime aggression increases" post-election but the majority of the main stories were proven false. Really sucks that people would make that shit up just to further their political ideals.

continued >

>>730896075
>>730896765

>Trump stole the election

I'm really not a fan of this whole line of thinking. Yes the Russians manipulated the election. No we do not know to what extent they manipulated it, it could have been a little could have been a lot.

Election manipulation should never occur in a perfect world, but it occurs 100% of the time. All political parties do their best to manipulate them, the very nature of gerrymandering manipulates them, the nature of tribalism manipulates them.

Do people really think Russia is the only country to manipulate the US, (or any countries,) elections? What country wouldn't manipulate an election if it could possibly benefit them. I'm sure every influential country does everything they possibly can to manipulate countries as long as it's kept under wraps. This time Russia's tinkering didn't stay under the radar. That's just how the world works.

Also, Trump won the electoral college by a landslide, it wasn't even close. I do not believe Russia has the influence necessary to throw the vote that hard. Could they maybe change a few votes? Sure. 50+? Fuck no. And through that line of thinking, who would massively alter the numbers if you were cheating? The more extreme the result, the more suspicion people hold, case-in-point here.

And finally, before you go off on me for being a Trumptard bigot, I don't like Trump and don't think he's good for America. But I do not believe the popular vote is a good determinator for the President of the US. It would just be a popularity contest, (we're pretty close to that anyway at this point.)

Regardless of my or others opinions of Trump- it is best that he does well as him doing well means we all do well. It is a waste of time and energy to "mentally refuse" to accept ones President. Same shit as all the conservatives who spent years hating Obama.

>>730897318

The Russian influence was much less benign than you're thinking, but that should surface soon enough.

>trump won the electoral college

Due to strategically released fake news and hacks made public RIGHt before the election. Not to mention the absolutely insane levels of gerrymandering the GOP was doing the 5 years prior.

Finally, you CANNOT lump refusal to accept Trump with the racist right's refusal to accept Obama. Obama was an articulate, intelligent, rational man. Trump is a brain-damaged, narcissistic bully and corporatist shill who lies CONSTANTLY (over 400 lies clocked this week since his inauguration!) and who is completely despised by the rest of the world. He is everything that is wrong with the far right wing personified into one fat, ugly, disgusting orange package.

EVERYONE who hates Trump can give a valid reason. Meanwhile the vast majority of those who hated Obama still belch out retarded bullshit about him being a Kenyan Muslim socialist antichrist.

The levels of vitriol may be similar, but those vile worthless subhuman trash do NOT get to put their paranoid delusional bullshit on the same level as my rational, objective facts.

>>730887552
>Let me defend my ideas with this collection of "ad hominem" and "Straw man" fallacies.

>>730892011
Yes, fuck the poor, try harder in life

>>730898372
It's good the American people got to see the hidden Democrat activities. It was unfair they also didn't get to see the Republicans'.

Given unfair vs. not even seeing one side's bullshit, I'll take the former.

If one grants all you say, the Democrats lost in spite of Trump being terrible. They pulled defeat from the jaws of victory. It should not have even been close, if everything you say was true.

They threw up an anti-charismatic, it's finally my turn, no mojo whatsoever, next person in line candidate whose novelty, being the first woman, had worn off on most Americans.

It's just as well, as riding her husband's coattails is no bragging point for a woman breaking the glass ceiling.

>>730898372

>The Russian influence was much less benign than you're thinking, but that should surface soon enough.

If that is true, than indeed we will now. Care to post any information that points to that being the case? I've done my research and haven't seen anything objective that can point to what they manipulated and to what degree.

>Not to mention the absolutely insane levels of gerrymandering the GOP was doing the 5 years prior.

Definitely true, but the left was almost on par. They counter-gerrymandered whenever possible. The whole system is fucked.

>Obama was an articulate, intelligent, rational man.

I would agree entirely in terms of personality. Obama seemed like a great guy. A lot of his policies and tendencies were not good for the US in the long term so I can see why conservatives disliked him. Why it made them dislike him on a personal level I don't understand.

>Trump is a brain-damaged, narcissistic bully and corporatist shill

While he may not be the most articulate or intelligent person, I seriously doubt he is brain damaged. He is definitely a massive narcissist and would qualify as a bully, he is a huge fan of ad-hominems.

I would also agree with being a corporatist shill, but to be honest I don't think any modern politician would qualify otherwise. Hilary was on the same tier of corporatist really, I don't think anything would be better on that front.

>lies CONSTANTLY

Agreed. I think he maintains a stream of bullshit to cover up the previous bullshit until there's more bullshit than is worth sifting through.

>EVERYONE who hates Trump can give a valid reason

Unfortunately I'd have to disagree heavily there. I hear just as much stupid, unfounded and emotionally-derived drivel from the left as I do the right.

I do agree that way too much Obama criticism was focused on him personally instead of his suboptimal policies.

>>730898372
>>730899148
>>730899096

I'd agree with a lot of what this Anon is saying. It says a fucking lot that Trump even had a chance in this election. It says a lot about how toxic the political and social environment has come, and it says A LOT about how shit of a candidate Hilary was.

It was sad how the main pro Hilary points were "it's not Trump," and "we could use a vagina in the white house."

The latter is particularly humorous since the genitalia one is in possession of should be just as irrelevant to one's ability to lead as the color of one's skin.

The former is simply sad as it highlights how the first-past-the-post voting system the US always degenerates into a "vote against whom you hate" election more than a "vote for who you think is best for the country."

>The levels of vitriol may be similar, but those vile worthless subhuman trash do NOT get to put their paranoid delusional bullshit on the same level as my rational, objective facts.

That kind of thinking is exactly what is wrong with our political environment.

While you may be rational, (or at least believe yourself to be as we all do,) you cannot deny that plenty of people who align themselves similar to yourself politically are entirely irrational.

While the right has classically been the more authoritarian party socially, the left is closing the gap rapidly and moving into that space.

Not only is there an intense need to completely disregard anything the other side says, but there has become a bordering on violent urge to subdue their ability to speak entirely.

Everyone, no matter how fucked has the right to speak their mind. People are losing their jobs and shit over someone interpreting something as "racist" or what-not. Shit is getting out of hand.

This social climate shift is a big part of why Trump won.

Trump is not the President America needs. But it's the President America deserves. We've earned it, sad to say.

>>730899846

You're making a VERY costly mistake in your analysis, but I do appreciate the honest discourse:

The SJWs and "AntiFa" anarchists are a tiny but vocal minority in the ranks of the "left". They have little to no actual power or influence in the Democratic Party, which is moderate-right wing politically (as well more than saw from the DNC bribe lists).

Those extremely loud but powerless groups have ALWAYS been there--they were the Flower Children during Vietnam and the "American Communist Party" in the late 90s. Same naive, misguided shit in a different wrapper. The bottom line is, they've never INFLUENCED the party.

That is NOT the case for the Republican Party constituents, who have become further and further right-extreme with each passing day they are manipulated by fake clergy and Fox News.

The racists, bigots, anti-leftists and "islamophobic" right ARE the base and the fringe are split between the poor handful of moderates who are dragged face-first into the shitwash with every hateful, anti-science, anti-education extremist assertion and the opposite extreme: actual white supremacists, timfoil hat retards (Alex Jones) and the Klan.

>>730899846
Nobody forced the Democrats to run around screaming how they were going to bury the white vote for ever and ever.

Nobody forced the Democrats to run around saying things like, "It's possible there will never be another Republican president ever again!" smugly.

Nobody forced Hillary to call half the nation a "basket of deplorables", then try to walk it back. Or half of half, but that makes no difference as it made everyone "feel attacked", to use a modern SJW term.

Nobody forced Democrats to spout shit like, "Remember! The Empire in Star Wars is a white supremecist organization! Hint hint this means you Trump wannabe voters!"

Nobody forced the Democrats to respond, to concerns that maybe importing Mexicans and other foreigners hand-over-fist to build an anti-white voting block to critical mass (see first bullet point), that maybe this was a legitimate concern for some, to respond with "Racist! Haters!"


Peeing on the opposition to appeal to your raging base is a terrible way to build a consensus from everybody who casts a vote.

>>730876758
I begrudgingly voted for Hillary, but only because Trump is even worse than that cunt. Would have preferred Bernie, but the Dems fucked him over.

>>730900694
A true idiot

>>730900596

If INTELLECT were a prerequisite for the vote, the Republicans WOULD never win another election. Since they can easily substitute it with fear, hatred and xenophobic exploitation with their brainwashed retarded followers, that was not the case.

And as for calling the racist, uneducated, braindead, homophobic, anti-education, anti-science bigots " racist, uneducated, braindead, homophobic, anti-education, anti-science bigots" and them getting butthurt about it? Tough shit. You don't get a pass on your blatant idiocy because your "feewings was hurt by the meanie, college degree-holding people." A spade's a spade. you don't like it? STOP DOING IT. This is the Information Age. The entire compiled discoveries and knowledge of mankind is available on your fucking PHONES and yet you're still uneducated, brainless dipshits. How fucking sad is that? You can't even name the 3 parts of government, for fucks sake.

51% of Trump voters said that the Bowling Green Massacre--a FABRICATED EVENT that the Trump administration pulled out of their ASSES, was valid justification for a Muslim ban. THINK about that for a minute.

>>730901058
As the next election approaches, open your mouth loud and clear. Repeat that loudly for all to hear.

>>730900694

>Trump is even worse

Yeah, by a few million magnitudes. Jesus Christ that you can even TRY to claim she was "on par" with his utter insanity is pathetic.

She's fucking sane, let's start with that. It's a far fry more than the majority of modern Republicans can say.

>>730875140
Yes, all liberals. That includes dems and Reps.

Communism when

>>730901161

Grow a pair, faggot.

You're a deplorable and you're lucky to get such a PG descriptor at that.

>>730901058
>>730901179
ITT, masturbating Democrats double down on the gleeful and wonderfully successful declaration that half the nation, who votes, too, are idiotic insane assholes.

>>730875140
The cool tho. A revolver with an extended clip.

>>730901343

Yeah, here's the thing though: the FACTS and polls all back us up. As it turns out, that's what happens when you build a political platform entirely on biblehumpers who hate education and science. Who'dathunk?

>>730901430
Fully automatic assault revolver

>>730901521
eh got lasers too bruh

>>730901058
>why did we lose the election, guys?
look, I hate stupid motherfuckers too, but you're not doing yourselves any favors.
besides, practical, actual, real-world knowledge kicks the shit out of most of what higher education is pumping out today. unless you're in criminal justice or STEM, you are fucking useless.
>>730901500
>facts
>polls
>no sources to be found in this post
nice strawman, faggot

>>730875140
Thinking ether political faction is on your side is a mental illness.

>>730901343

51% of Trump voters say the Bowling Green Massacre justifies a Muslim ban.

32% of Trump voters are infavor of bombing Agrabah, the fictional country from Disney's Aladdin.

25% of Trump voters say he should be able to overturn federal judge's rulings.

42% of Republicans believed that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

>>730901779

My sister died at Bowling Green, show some fucking respect!

>>730901779
Clinton voters can be successfully trolled just as equally.

>>730901650

>real-world knowledge

Fucking kek. Sounds like an acute case of the Fox and the Grapes to me. Sort of like when Rick Santorum called college educated people "snobs".

The REAL real-world knowledge IS higher education, you fucking moron.

>>730880931
Nigger do you even hear yourself?

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>>730875464
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>>730901650

>real world knowledge

>>730890627
Fuck off moralfag. Typical liberal

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>>730901779

>32% of Trump voters are infavor of bombing Agrabah, the fictional country from Disney's Aladdin.

>>730901945
>>730902029
samefag
>perpetuate that collegefags is the only true knowledge
>no more tradesmen because muh philosophy degrees
>oops, economy crashed

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>>730890374
Try harder. If you keep underestimating your enemy you'll continue to lose, as you did the election.

Your enemies read more books than you and can adjust for windage/bullet drop.

Keep thinking your ideals and emotions make you superior. Your feelings will do little for you in the field.

>>730878158
To shill on a basket weaving forum?
Larping fag

>>730901879
I'm breddy sure there's sick pics of it in the rect threads, tbt.

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>>730902186
do you know what it does?

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>>730902195

>right wingers read more books

HAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAA!
Stop! Stop! You're KILLING me!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!

>>730902299

I know what it USED to do.

>>730889220
If that was true your candidate would have won. You lost to idiots. What does that make you?

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>>730902405
sure sure anon

>>730902574
They should just bring back IDs

>>730902118

I love it. Absolutely and without fail, EVERY retarded, anti-education right winger believes that a college degree has only one kind of knowledge associated with it.

College degrees are proof of a WELL-ROUNDED higher education as well as proof of the ability to allocate money, time, resources, etc. and that you are a career/goal-oriented person. This is why even a degree in basket weaving or English is going to get you hired 9 times out of 10 over anyone with no degree. People with degrees are also PAID a lot more than those without in all but a handful of fields.

>>730881405
You're either retarded or a shill

>>730902716

nope and nope.

you are butthurt AND retarded.

>>730902649
mods love forced anon
why would they bring it back to /b/ even if it's just ID's

>>730891653
this thou

>>730881739
Ended slavery
Kkk started by a democrat

>>730902350
Scared. People who know their history aren't out protesting. Your parents won't save you.

What will you actually do? I'm curious.

>>730902848
And it's the northern, rust-belt states that flipped.
>muh suthern bigots turned it for Trump!

>>730902804

I wish we could have the Name field back. It was a lot of fun to exploit and that way you could sign your own posts in a debate setting like this one to easily keep track.

>inb4 no one but me has been here long enough to remember #202E.

>>730881869
Libs are the moralfags that logic.
Resorts to muh feels

>>730894274
Gee, you sure are a stupid nigger, huh?

>>730901779
Agrabah lol! so crazy how the majority of conservatives are the crazy old fucks that haven't died yet

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>>730902899

I'm positively SHAKING in my pixie boots.

>>730883445
Your morals are yours

>>730885369
joos

>>730903051
Funny

>>730902957
I only started to come here during 2012
>inb4 newfag
I know I am

>>730875140
Isn't this thread a nice place? Full of rational discussion and cooperative truth seeking. Thank you OP for blessing us with this beautiful thread.

>>730877746
Keep crying Omar

>>730903051
>no argument
Your memes won't save you. We've been preparing for years. You don't want this.

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>>730894918
Dude I appreciate compassion as much as the next guy cus it's how we grow as a society but if you really are 30.....then your head might have been up your ass a little too long. Might wana take a look around.

>>730903475

Which is, of course, why the only place you've staged your "attacks" is Berkeley. Fucking LEL!

>>730878480
So much for the party of tolerance.
Fight ignorance with violence? What a fucking dumb nigger.

>>730903818

Not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here.

>>730879472
Wew lad, watch that edge.

>>730904046
not him. stop drinking your own koolaid.
you may find yourself right once again, but, examine this shit without party lines nor either party's propaganda.
the right isn't just neocon dipshits, and the left isn't just liberal-marxist retards.
i think we all should look at both sides of the spectrum before we begin pinning our flags and drawing battle lines, especially the more aggressive of us.
>centrists still deserve to be shot because they're retards with no convictions

>>730879520
Copypasta

>>730880266
I hope your precious sand niggers rape your family

>>730880310
It's a school night pussy, get to bed

>>730904021

So...I'm supposed to "tolerate" someone with the IQ of a kumquat trying to decide how we as a people educate the next generation and what my tax dollars go to?

NO. This isn't something tolerance covers. There will be no unilateral disarmament.

They CHOSE to be morons.

Let me put it this way:

I am not a mathematician, so why should I have a vote in how the new theories, formulas, etc. in math are used? Is that logical? Of course not. I am academical unqualified to be granted a vote in that subject.

The same is true for these idiotic, brainwashed fact-free lunatics in the right wing base. They are UNQUALIFIED to be allowed a say in matters of science, education, etc. because they simply don't understand it. Obviously if they are in the TINY minority of those who DO know what they're talking about then they should get a say even if its one the other side disagrees with.

There is NO excuse for the level of sheer academic ignorance they have in the Information Age though. NONE.

>>730880331
we
Good luck, with your side not liking guns and all kek

>>730904155

I don't have a party agenda. I go where the facts and knowledge take me.

Again, it's not that "voting leftist makes you intelligent", it's that being intelligent (and educated) makes you have a tendency to side with the left simply BECAUSE the modern right is so blatantly against science, education and knowledge.

>>7308805>>730879918
It's not economy faggot. It's about whether or not you want less government on your life.

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>>730902195
You still have faith. Fucks sake hahaha. Your ability to shut out the feelings and morals doesn't make you superior either. Remember 99.9% of everything that ever walked this motherfucker I'd dead now. You will be too. It's just a economic system. Ego....it can be a bitch

>>730881108
I was a liberal back then. Try again you subhuman.

>>730904312

I don't have any "precious" sand niggers. I don't like Islam any more than I like Christianity. Both are fucking retarded to me. Now, that said, there is NOTHING more hypocritical than a Christian calling out Muslims for retarded religion shit though. Pot, meet Kettle.

>>730904481
>BECAUSE the modern right is so blatantly against science, education and knowledge.
not from what I've seen.
there's a difference between "against" and "interpreting data differently"
I will concede that ~09era republicans were fucking retarded but right now, the right is the more reasonable side, at least in the face of the left shifting to a more marxist agenda.

>>730903965
HA! You think anyone gives a shit about some lib-cancer college town? California, as a whole, has been a lost cause for decades. The rest of the county is looking forward to the day the tectonic plates carry that welfare-state shithole out into the Pacific to sink it.

Cut off the cancer before it spreads.

>>730893504
Riiiight beaner, by more government and more money? Over the wall with you

>>730894233
Niggers are aggressive, nice try jew

>>730904638
>"interpreting data differently"

>Evolution is a lie cuz God.

>the Earth is 6000 years old.

>There is no such thing as the "Separation of Church and State".

>Trickle Down economics is mathematically sound.

>Global Warming is a funding conspiracy between 97% of all scientists.

>CO2 can't possibly be bad for the environment.

>Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist Dictator who just might be the Antichrist.


Yep. That's sure "differently".

>>730894033
NPR
Kys

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>>730904046
We have grown stagnant. And the teenagers aren't making it better. Our bill of rights is violated by career politicians. Most of the younger gen put politics out of their minds because as humans we believe it's all about "me" not "us". When you question people like that they tend to put it out of their head that's called ignorance. While a lot of us have forgotten what this country was founded on and in other countries when you question laws or government they tend to just kill everybody.

>>730904832

>California

>welfare state

WOW you are really that fucking stupid, huh? So sad.

I'm honestly surprised you even believe in tectonic plates though. That's a plus for "people" like you.

>>730904904

The wall won't happen and I'm white as sin.

>>730904635
I'm atheist you dumb shit

>>730905146

And I didn't assert that you were ANYTHING, retard.

>>730905115
Well in that case get in the chopper

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>>730905193
Christian calling out Muslim

>>730904832
California as a whole? Easy buddy. LA doesn't make my decisions I'm from nor cal this is a farm state. Remember where a lot of your food comes from. You wana quarrel with berkely or LA fine with me but the only time our state didn't vote dem was when Reagan got in and it was cus he was governor before. The only thing anyone in America knows about california is the Hollywood edge of the government knife. We're an ag state we don't care what Merryl Streep rants on about bro

>>730905308
this

>>730904973

You're really not getting what he's saying are you?

The majority of conservatives aren't as extreme as the examples you're saying.

Most of them do believe in evolution, (plenty of religious people twist their belief to "fit" evolution.)

Only the most die hard religous idiots actually think the world is 6k years old.

Seperation of church and state is right in the constitution. Considering how much they worship it, I'm sure plenty of them do believe in it.

I'll give you the Trickle Down economics, but that's mostly because Reagen's presidency left such a positive taste in the country's mouth since there was mostly upsides and the long-term negative effects of Reagen-administration's policies weren't felt until later.

Anti climate-change is definitely an issue, but it's not a massive majority of conservatives, and furthermore this stems from a "distrust in science," which is becoming more and more common among both sides, (it'll be retard liberals who tell you that vaccines or GMOs are bad.) By lacking understanding in topics and only knowing basic surface knowledge people don't comprehend how ignorant they are of the subject relative to actual researchers.

Obama's birth place is totally irrelevant to the whole anti-science issue. Not to mention how arbitrary and outdated the idea of needing to be born in a certain place to be loyal to it is in the modern age.

>>730904638

The conservative base throughout the South and Midwest believes evolution is a lie and the Earth is 6000 years old. That isn't a mere disagreement over the interpretation of data, it's complete and utter delusion.

>>730875140
I consider myself a classical liberal. "Let people be free, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights or freedoms of others."

Say or think what you want, don't threaten or sabotage people that disagree with you. Freedom to say or think what you want doesn't mean you can't be wrong, it's just that you saying or thinking something shouldn't predicate the destruction of your life.

Do what you want, don't physically hurt people or destroy property. I suppose you do have to place some limitations on borderline things, like harassment or stalking which could very easily BECOME physical, but the principle is there.

The current college campus liberal, though? They're mentally ill. They are denying an objective reality because it disagrees with their perspective in cases of gender, race, and class.

99.7% of people categorize strictly into Male or Female genders. There are some very very very rare outliers, but they are statistically insignificant. We don't need to go to war over it or completely overhaul our social structure.

Race exists. There are objective, measurable differences between individuals of different races physically and psychologically. As unpleasant as it is to say, races of people are like breeds of dog. Again, there are outliers, but within 2 minutes of talking to someone of a particular race, you can get a bead on whether they are stereotypical or not. If 60% of people in a given group fall within a stereotype, it's not even remotely unfair to categorize them as that stereotype.

Communism/Socialism is... probably fine for commodities, but if expanded into general goods&services markets is doomed to fail. That said, Capitalism is a system that becomes more and more unbalanced the longer it runs, so eventually it needs to be shaken like an Etch-a-Sketch and set back to a more balanced level, but just because Capitalism needs correcting doesn't mean it should be REPLACED with a doomed system.

We are not equal.

>>730875333
the guy in the back is laughing his ass off

>>730905399
Didn't Hillary start the birth rumor? Kek

>>730905495
>this

Remember how McKinley got assassinated and Teddy Roosevelt "trust busted" that's one of the "shaking of the Etch A Sketch"

>>730876989
53 and on 4chan
you should turn it on yourself gramps