my raw vegan breakfast What is your favorite raw vegan food?

Peppers, green beans and peas. Ah being a vegan. To know that carnism doesn't control me . Life is easier knowing I don't t contribute to rape-slave trade of milk or meat.

>>730665007
I dated a vegan guy for a while. Nigger fed me hella bean sprouts. You guys make some pretty good food. Vegan meat substitutes really don't taste anything like real meat though. You sold me on the veggies, but lost me on the fakeon.

>>730667117
the fact that I have the greatest shits of all time is due to the fact humans are meant to have a diet of 90% vegan so my gutty works are so amazing now days


animals are kinda cool too so eh but idc bout em


>I eat steamed rice with steamed veggies with some hemp seeds inside a tiny salad. sometimes rice in almond milk slightly warm is pretty nice

>>730665007
>mine are broccoli
Nigga what?

>>730665007
Factory farmed cheeseburgers.

>>730665007
Raw? Nigger wtf you got against fire?

I like sweet pepppers.

>>730665007
Vegans are mentally ill. Also, no one eats that many berries. That's way too much sugar!

gO fUcKeN EeT sum MeEt faggo

I'm not vegan, but I do love good vegan dishes.
A fruit bowl with Kiwi, Cherimoya, Strawberries, Pineapple ,Mango, and Watermellon is one of my favorite sweet mixes.
Does Kimchi count? My Ex was Korean, and her family taught me several different recipes. I make several batches throughout the year.
I also use Quinoa, with dried onion, tomatoes, garlic, and lime juice, to make a nice salad, and I make my own Humus with chickpeas, garlic, olive oil and ground pepper.

A properly made vegan curry is a staple in my house. It's easy, cheap, filling, and ridiculously tasty. Really any well-seasoned stew with potatoes can be served over rice and turned into a stick-to-your-ribs meal.

That said, I eat a shitload of cheeseburgers. I just can't get down with vegan cheese. Cashew butter/faux-dairy products simply aren't as good as bovine cheese. Everyone should be eating more veggies though. The human gut evolved to subsist on a ton of foraged fruit and vegetables supplemented with occasional bursts of animal protein.

>>730665007
Lel what a fucking faggot

Animals wouldn't be made out if meat if we weren't meant to eat them...

Look I get it, and I agree. Unfortunately I only have time to eat like one meal a day and I can't get enough calories from fruits and vegetables. It sucks but until lab grown meat is a thing I literally don't care.

>>730671102
lmao is this supposed to be sarcastic

>>730671177
Key word: processed

Like anything else, fresh is better.

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>>730665007
Congratulations, you're mentally ill

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201211/youre-vegetarian-have-you-lost-your-mind

If that is your breakfast you are the dumbest vegan I have ever heard of, l2 nutrition faggot

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>>730671373
World Health Organization declared red meat a Group 2A carcinogen, after reviewing over 800 peer reviewed studies. It didn't recieve a Group 1 classification, because despite strong mechanistic data showing that unprocessed mammal meat does in fact cause cancer, some population studies were inconclusive.

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I like broccoli too OP, though I like it when it's steamed. I just like a lot of vegtables and fruit.

btw, I'm not vegan, I like my meat with dem veggies

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>>730671063
This is false, omnivores care deeply about the welfare of animals

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Mah vegans!

>>730665007
Not a vegan but that looks hella delicious.

>>730671629
>Limited evidence means that a positive association has been observed between exposure to the agent and cancer but that other explanations for the observations (technically termed chance, bias, or confounding) could not be ruled out.

Lol the strawman arguments are real. Vegans are virtue signaling cunts. Just keep it to yourself, no one gives a fuck. And if they did give a fuck they'd look into it themselves anyways.
All you do is ruin the potential chance of converting carnivores into vegans.

>>730671874
Where is the "So you're telling me I should give a fuck?" option?

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>>730671764
You forgot

"Where you going to get the correct ratio of fatty acids both EPA & DHA?"

[spoiler] no where but Fish oil [/spoiler]

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>>730671755
>dubs
>that filename

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>>730671905
>800+ studies
>limited evidence
Anon demonstrates that anon doesn't know how the WHO actually came to their conclusions and is spitballing.

Carnists are so predictable. Never dispute the science, just pretend like there's doubt where there isn't

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>>730672179
>Carnists are so predictable. Never dispute the science

Meanwhile ITT >>730671482 & >>730672096

are ignored by OP

>>730672179
That was taken directly from the WHO site, anon. Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.

http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

>>730671677
>I don't have the willpower
What a weak ass bitch.

>>730672354
Bullshit article about orthorexia and anon implying fish oil is the only way the get neccessary fats isn't disputing the science behind how eating red meat causes cancer in humans.

But thanks for proving my point

. <--- Vegan Penis

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>>730672531

Eating meat causes arterial damage, which restricts blood flow to the penis, causing shrinkage and possible impotence.

But go on, keep thinking you're funny. I'm sure someone else is giggling, too

>>730671377
This is pretty accurate. S/he looks and dresses like a total autist, just like most vegans.

Jesus fucking christ, is this like the new "AY WHITE BOI HOW U COMPARE TO BIGG BLAK DICK YO" daily bait thread?

Blueberries. I'm not vegan because I like the taste of meat. Oh it's bad for you? Idgaf
I'm Dr. Edge Lord PHD in eating animals

>>730672268
This must be the most retarded thing ever...
It makes me wanna eat more meat.

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>>730670794
Nice try, faggot

>>730672391
>http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

"In the case of red meat, the classification is based on limited evidence from epidemiological studies showing positive associations between eating red meat and developing colorectal cancer as well as strong mechanistic evidence."

Do you need someone to explain the big words to you? Because that's exactly what I said

>>730665007
thats just a giant plate of sugar. I guess this is how some vegans get fat

I know one vegan and he believes in chemtrails and stockpiles ammo. And he doesn't have any muscles on his body, probably gets 50g of protein or less. I'll stick to animals. I don't give a fuck about their lives. Also, plants ARE alive too. That's like saying abortion isn't murder at 5 months but one week after that and it's murder. It's all murder. It's still necessary murder, so let's go murder some life, legally.

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>>730665007
>What is your favorite raw vegan food?
Raw vegans.

https://youtu.be/ygu4EcfCzbc

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https://youtu.be/KArL5YjaL5U

>>730672179
>>730672918
The fact that you don't know what the term "limited evidence" means coupled with your failure to realize that the WHO itself used that term indicates that you most definitely should not be speaking with authority on this topic.

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>>730672830

>>730665007
I'm allergic to way too much shit to be vegan
>almonds, peanuts, walnuts and more
>apples, pears, peaches, strawberries, kiwi and more
>can't digest root veggies and other veggies very well 'cause of diverticulitis
I'm a mess

SOMEONE POST SHOVEL DOG

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>literally taking a step back in evolution

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2008/04/eating-meat-led-to-smaller-stomachs-bigger-brains/

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-fire-makes-us-human-72989884/

http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/all-meat-vs-vegetarian-diets

Best argument against vegans:

Who cares what animals we kill. They're animals and therefore not important. Fuck em.

>>730673126

The fact that you don't understand what "strong mechanistic data" means, or get that it's more valuable than population studies when determining HOW something may / may not cause cancer, indicates that your shouldn't be speaking with authority on ANY subject.

>>730665007
a nice juicy steak with some eggs and crispy bacon

>>730673248
You forgot
http://www.livescience.com/26278-risks-raw-vegan-diet.html

>>730668461
Oh this so much.

>>730673163
Kek

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>>730670872
you imply simple vegetarianism can cause changes like that? bs. clearly genetics and most likely abuse of drugs

If it were socially acceptable to eat dog and dog tastes good, I would eat dog. I would also have a dog as a pet. Pigs and chickens make great pets. They also taste fantastic. Did you ever roast a pork shoulder, remove the fat, then slowly fry it up in a pan? That shit is delicious.

Half a box of dry cheerios...

>carnists
Where did this shitty neologism come from? Just call them normal people, because that's what they are. Or omnivores/carnivores at most, but no need to make up new shitty words to look like the victim and try to normalize your idiocy.

>>730673592
No, carnist is a great term. It's like "homophobic" or "scared of homosexuals". It's a perfect term to easily spout myopic retards.

>>730673592
https://youtu.be/ao2GL3NAWQU

>>730673289
You could say the same about humans, tho.

>>730673327
Nice strawman.

>>730673555
Dog is good, kind of gamey.
I generally don;t give a flying fuck what the vegan weirdos do, as long as they do it quietly and don't disturb me while i consume a metric fuckton of flash.

>>730673529
>teleports behind you
>pshhht
>nothing personnel, carnist

>>730673659
most people don't give a shit if you're vegan. It's just annoying to see blatantly false shit all the time that is incredibly biased

>>730673696

Project much?

>>730673690
>implying I don't.

>>730673592
Standard procedure-label the ppl you think are weird/abnormal.
They're probably mostly just butthurt that vegan is conflated with simpleton/pussy
Carnist is ok with me, sounds like a sex thing derived from carnal, either way I'm proud to be a meat eater/fucker.

>>730673772
All I've done is quote a section of the site that directly contradicts your argument. You're the one putting words in my mouth.

You're terrible at this.

You can hate all you fucking want, but going vegan was the best decision I ever made.

I 100% believe that if you knew what I knew, you'd be vegan too

>>730673233
Is it FODMAP/sugar intolerance? Because I'm intolerant to fructose and oligosacharrides. So pretty much no wheat, beans, nuts, fruit, etc.

I can have lactose though

>>730673690
Humans kill humans all the time. We're not important either. Importance is something we individually attribute to other individual life forms based on our own belief systems. There are people out there right now who would feel perfectly fine witnessing a truck full of confirmed meat eaters driven off a cliff yet think they're morally superior for choosing a slightly wider band of life whose flesh they won't ever consume. Everything that has within it self-propagating processes is a life form, and that includes plants. Eating plants is still murder, but because plants don't have faces, they "don't count".

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>>730673423
Decent hardworking Americans work at the slaughterhouses. They earn their living and take care of their families. They pay their taxes and they aren't on the dole.

So how about you go fuck yourself you worthless commie faggot. These people are the backbone of this nation while you're some cocksmoker living on one of the coasts, chomping on blueberries between sucking off men in the shower at 24 hour fitness. You don't know shit about life or what really matters you smug motherfucker.

>>730673659
>homophobic is a perfect term
No... it drastically oversimplifies complex psychological/sociological issues, and it's often overused by faggots like you who end up degrading any meaning that was there in the first place, thereby rendering it nothing more than an ambiguous ad hominem attack.

>>730673920
>Standard procedure
Yeah, I figured it was pretty much the same shit as with "cis-gender" and oter made up, previously unnecessary terms liberals invent.

Veganism doesn't solve any problems that couldn't be solved by moderation and selectiveness. That is, unless you are one of these retards who thinks that killing a fish is ethically similar to killing a human.

>>730674030
I was referring to the wielders of those terms as the ones who are myopic retards. Obvoiusly homophobic is a stupid term. And bigot, racist, sexist, etc. are all overused as well.

>>730674003
>because they don't have faces
Well, I'm pretty sure it's because they don't have brains and nervous systems, and therefore don't suffer the way sentient creatures suffer.

But yeah, they also don't have faces kek

>>730673951

...but it doesn't contradict what I said. In fact, it says exactly what I said it would, because I am familiar with the WHO IARC conclusions on the carcinogenicity of red and processed meat, and am not talking out of my ass.

YOU are trying to get the conclusion you want out of data that doesn't support it.

Strong. Mechanistic. Data.

And yeah, if you're accusing me of strawmanning, I would say you are projecting.

https://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2015/pdfs/pr240_E.pdf

>>730674215
So you're saying if we can genetically modify our animals to lack nervous systems, it's then morally righteous to begin eating them again? What if we GMO'd the little guys so that they're headless but run by a lithium ion battery sticking out of their neck? Is that moral now?

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>>730674330

>>730665007
why raw vegan tho?

>>730674330
Sure, why not?

>>730665007
like why raw?

>>730673988
I don't think so, because I don't have a problem with many of the foods that are high on the FODMAP list.

>>730674465
obviously because cooking food gives you cancer are you stupid or something

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>>730674444
Quads check'd

Also nobody ever refers to their canine's as "massive" during argument. They simply refer to their existence. If you claim to be people of science then you should accept that. We also have binocular vision, and last time I checked that wasn't because we needed it to hunt down stationary vegetables.

Fuckin anti-science faggot. Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill Nye are going to lynch you for this shit.

>>730670794
>being so bad at pushing ideas you have to make fun of people instead of inspiring them with your vegan lifestyle

It's so bad I feel like the guy who posted this want me to hate vegans

Explain me how I can save money by eating vegan foods. Don't shame me into being a vegan because it won't work

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>>730674405

I'm vegan, and I hate hippies.
Fuck meat-eating hippies, they're the worst kinds of human.

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>>730674601
Nobody asked for your life story shithead, now fuck off.

>>730674215
>sentient
I don't think that word means what you think it means, only humans are sentient.

>>730674330
I'm not sure where you think I'm coming from on this issue, but you should probably stop making assumptions.

>>730670872
Morrissey doesn't get enough protein to work his cock; he's been a well noted asexual.

>>730671063
>No one in PETA eats meat

>>730665007

I-is that a plate of straight up frozen berries..?

What the fuck?

>>730673988
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

genetics play a huge role in what is healthy.

>>730671266
It's supposed to make vegans feels better

>>730674596
No one was talking to you, specifically. Sorry your feelings were hurt, it really must suck going through life with such thin skin.

If you're really curious about affordable vegan food, there are plenty of resources out there. Search on Youtube, there are plenty of videos (some more helpful than others).

I'd help you, but I'm on fucking /b/ posting vegan memes. You should find someone more helpful.

But it's worth it. Going vegan was the best choice I ever made for myself

>>730674359
How very ironic they used a meat-eating by nature animal to make this.
Talking about that, how is it ok for animals to eat other animals, but not for humans?

>>730671293
Said the gay man to the straight. Fuck faggots amr

went vegan for 4 months, had like 2 solid shits in that whole time period. Fuck that

>>730674540
stop taken the pcp m8

>>730674677
Before you attempt to appear intelligent, you should do more research on what you're trying to refute, pal.

If a creature can experience pleasure and pain, it can be considered sentient.

>>730671377
How about, I really don't care? Judge me for living a different way, and I'll do the same if it suits you

>>730674852
Do you want more people becoming vegan or you want more people hating vegan?

That's a serious question

>>730674492
You forgot the part where they both believe they're so much better than anybody else, and the part where they both try to force their shitty ideology into everyone else.

>>730674330
>>730674687
I asked my vegan friend if he would eat 3D printed meat. He said a bunch of things that didn't make any sense until I finally figured out that he just assumes that if it isn't produced naturally it's unhealthy.

>>730674891
Yeah I don't believe you.

If that's true, then I would say it had nothing to do with the fact that you were eating "vegan," and everything to do with the fact that you were eating shit food. Trust me, if you were eating fiber, you'd have some solid shits

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>>730674868
It is absolutely fine for human animals to eat non-human animals and vice versa and so forth and so on.

Vegans do not operate on logic or scientific understanding. They are driven by emotional responses, nothing more. That is why 99% of the propaganda they produce has to do with showing people violence and gore. They want to traumatize people and emotionally manipulate them into changing their ways.

In short, they need to be rounded up, put into camps and gassed.

>>730671712
Except humans are more intelligent than a cow. If the super smart aliens did it in a way people did not find invasive, then yeah, why not they're superior

>>730672866
So you never been to a shop to buy meat, only hunted animals after Chasing them for hours, cool sorry /b/tard.

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>>730675093
>>730674868

>>730674981
I'm sorry, but most definitions you'll find aren't with you on this one, buddy.

>>730671764
You forgot, "I don't care Andrew, I really don't care."

>>730674766
Yeah, I just think it's funny that I can have all the milk I want, but my body will violently reject anything with plant sugar

>>730675035
>3d printed meat
Well, he probably has the right idea. I'd be a little skeptical of that shit too (at least in the early stages)

>>730675287
I'm sorry, but you're probably a little too attached to Merriam Webster, champ.

>>730675345
Why?

>>730673380
Seems fair. I'll shit myself before they take me though

i'm not vegan but I really like almond milk

>>730673483
hyperbole

>>730674223
You're the one projecting here, friend.

"Strong mechanistic evidence" is also insufficient for your wild ass claim that "unprocessed mammal meat does in fact cause cancer."

>>730675490
It's just a good rule of thumb that if something is processed, it's at least good to be wary.

>>730675199
peta

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This is from a pig that I butchered not that long ago. Enjoy.

>>730675255
hyperbole

Daily reminder that if you eat meat then you support rape.

Rape is natural.
Eating meat is natural.

So it must be ok, right?

>>730675719
Dude you should make pork rinds. Shits delicious and I give the really crunchy ones to my dog

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What's best is, I ended up throwing most of it away since I forgot about him in the fridge.

What I ate of him was pretty delicious, though.

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>this thread in this image

>>730675839
Suicide is natural
Beastiality is natural
Incest is natural
Me tongue pushing your butthole so hard you dad cums.
>Is natural

>>730675597

My phrasing:

>"...despite strong mechanistic data showing that unprocessed mammal meat does in fact cause cancer, some population studies were inconclusive."

Who's building strawmen? You're wasting my time

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ITT

I eat meat because I like the way it tastes and I do not care for the welfare of animals and livestock.
I am posting this for (You)s

>>730675878
You have no pets dude? They'd love gnawing that up for months

>>730675878
Autist.

>>730675719
>>730675756
>>730675831
>>730675878
>>730675982

Why do you think pictures like that bother vegans? We watch movies like this:

https://youtu.be/KArL5YjaL5U

>>730675982
Know any good recipes for organs? I only eat rabbits I hunt but after getting so many the organ weight really adds up and |I fel it could be used somehow if I really tried

>>730675965
I molest children because I like their tight holes and I do not care for their welfare.
I am posting this for (You)s

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>>730675996

We actually feed it to our other pigs. They'll eat fuckin' anything. If one of our chicks die, we toss it in and they rip it apart.

>>730676002

Don't be upset.

>>730676002
Racist.

>>730675937
Yes, that was your phrasing, and it is wildly inaccurate. The WHO did not say that. You did. A 2A classification means that it is probable. It most certainly does not mean that it "does in fact cause cancer."

>>730675982
you still lost the argument

>>730676114
Wait, isn't that how mad cow disease happens dude? I mean if nothing happened so far I guess it's alright but I thought that had something to do with it

>>730676030
Yeah, like we're actually afraid pussy ass vegans will ever achieve something like that.

>>730676184
What was the argument? Look at this meat on the ground? If so he's making a compelling point

>>730676131

Strong mechanistic data means they can tell you exactly how it causes cancer in humans.

>>730676099
Thanks for the (You) here's one for (You)r trouble.

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>>730676068

Oh, because I threw a good portion of him in the garbage. I shot him in his soulful widdle eyes, carved him up, and then wasted most of him. I just thought you'd appreciate knowing. It also brings me joy letting you know that no matter how much effort you put into saving animals, I'll still be out there personally murdering and eating them. I would absolutely eat a dog, and I don't give a shit that pigs are intelligent.

Also, this was post-kill, but before we carved him up. He was pretty small, so we had to tie his other leg onto the bar.

>>730665007
Bacon.

But then again I don't really feel the need to make a big deal about it.

>>730676099
I'm sure most people would think you are oh so virtuous and moral by thinking that slaughtering a pig equals to raping a human child :^)

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>>730665007
>we evolves as omnivores
>some people eat mostly meat
>some eat mostly plants
>some are massive hippie faggots with an ego
>the ego hippies wonder why people make fun of them
I'd laugh but I honestly wonder why you guys seem to usually HATE people who eat their own way.

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>>730676099

>>730675965
This is one of those answers that invites 0 room for debate kek.

In fact, it's the only way to ensure that a vegan doesn't bust out with an epic display of rehearsed arguments...
>I don't give a fuck about animals cuz I'm a bad person
Kek

>>730676114
I'm upset, I know. It just gets me how you feel no empathy towards other living being. It's your choice and I respect it, but I don't understand.

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The idea of small things being tortured, violently beaten, and then fed into a mice grinder alive to be turned into the tasty cheeseburgers I eat make my dick unbelievably hard

>>730676305
The point I'm trying to make is that both lives matter. Just because it's a pig it doesn't mean it is less than us. Afterall, we're animals too.

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>>730676348

Oh, it's not sociopathy. I feel empathy towards people and animals that I care for, but I'm entirely indifferent towards those that I don't. Existence for all creatures is predicated upon the death of other organisms, in whatever shape. In order to subsist every single day, you kill hundreds of thousands of living cells. We both give subjective value to life, mine's just a bit more refined.

I'm not sure what part this was, but I think it came out of the throat somewhere.

>>730676449
Each animal serves a purpose. People eat dogs and have pigs as pets too. We do with them as we please.

>>730676293

You didn't even look at the video I posted, did you?

They throw a lot of pig parts away

>>730676283
Again you fail to understand the terminology. If they had mechanistic evidence in humans, it would be placed in 1A. In this case, it's mechanistic evidence in lab animals, which, obviously, is not sufficient to label it as something that "does in fact cause cancer" in humans.

>>730676593
Clearly a pig titty

>>730676068
>We watch movies like this:
Yeah, and you probably cried through the whole thing.
BTW, I bet all those "awards" were given by liberal vegan faggots just like the makers themselves.

>>730676364
>males are killed in the egg industry
yep. They grow up nice and fat and get slaughtered as feeder chickens. Same with hens.
>bulls are killed in the dairy industry
Yeah. Sometimes they're raised fully, sometimes they get the knife. You want to drink some bull milk?
>strawman
>strawman
oh wow I'm so surprised.

>>730675688
What does the word "processed" mean, exactly, in this context?

>tons of faceless animals being bred solely for eating. Probably don't mind dying too much either.

What the fuck do you suppose we do? Let them free and destroy the environment? We weren't meant to eat meat? Then why do you crave it enough to go through the mental gymnastics of creating substitutes? Fucking vegtards.

>>730676682
See #2:

http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

>>730676192
>your pigs are going to get mad cow disease
>mad cow disease
>cow

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>>730676602

I didn't, but I don't think watching it would stop me from posting.

>>730676653

You don't understand the WHO groupings.

1 means that they concluded, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, causes cancer.

(That's hot dogs, bacon, deli turkey, ham, etc. etc.)

2A means "Yeah, this shit probably causes cancer, and we have most - but not all - of the evidence we need to conclude that"

2B means "This might cause cancer, we have some evidence that supports that"

>>730665007
I eat animals because they taste good. Nothing logical about it.
I also don't really give a shit about how they're treated :^)

>>730676770
Shit knife

>>730676856
You can't just invent your own definitions for their categories. 2A means that it's probable, nothing more.

>>730676770

Wouldn't expect it to. Just wanted to point out that gore isn't necessarily offensive to vegans

Question for vegans:

If you were travelling the world and stumbled upon an uncontacted hunter-gatherer tribe, who survived by killing and eating wild animals, and stayed with them long enough to learn their language, would you tell them that their only moral choice was abandon their lifestyle and move to the city where the availability of mass-produced crops make veganism a viable lifestyle choice?

If you would not do that, can you still say that you believe that it's not okay to eat meat for the sake of maintaining your lifestyle?

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>>730676944
Done with your bait

>>730676682
It's when something goes through an unnatural stage of preparation, where artificial ingredients are often added

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>>730676984

I think it still bothers quite a few of you. Especially since there's a personal touch to these, specifically.

This one isn't even gore, it's just lovely.

>>730665007
So eating raw still "living" plants and plant fetuses (berries) is morally superior than eating a humanely killed animal that lived a life of luxury compared to some human lives? Hmmm. Please tell me why its any more reasonable to kill plants instead of animals? Just so you know, plants do infact feel and respond to pain.

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>>730674852
Wow you sure told him. The guy is trying to help you and you're like
>DID I TRIGGER U LMAO SUCK TO BE YOU THIN SKIN

>>730668677
not op or a 100% raw vegan but the idea is that you loose a ton of nutrition from plant based foods when theyre cooked. Youre body also doesnt process them the same way.

>>730676580
>both lives matter
Then your point is wrong. Now think about how most of society would judge you for that comparationa and realize you don''t have any right to act like such a moralist saint.

Is cum vegan?

>>730668758
False. You dont understand how your body digests fiber if you think that's too much sugar.

>>730677044
>I lost
>quick, call it bait to save face

>>730677146

Pretty sure he wasn't really trying to help.

But keep taking what people say at face value, that's how all the really successful people got where they are today.

>>730677184
Thanks for asking the real questions, anon.

>>730677162
>but the idea is that you loose a ton of nutrition from plant based foods when theyre cooked
I think it depends on the food. I'm pretty sure it actually releases more nutrients in certain foods.

>>730676645
Oh, trust me, I wouldn't judge such aliens is such an event were to happen, which won't. After all, the fact that we're "not okay" with it would be as irrelevant to them as killing any livestock is to me.

>>730677184
what if you take a big fat load in your mouth do vegans have to spit or swallow?

>>730676068
Fuck I want a thick, juicy slice of ham right about now

>>730677238
You sound like a guy who deal extremely well with criticism, that's how all the really successful people got where they are today.

>>730677342
Cooking is the first form of digestion or aka the break down of food. Any amount of cooking removes some of the nutrients presented. Never will it add anything unless you add it as a seasoning.

>>730674007
hell yes

>>730677311
Yeh bro
>>730677416
Yes that's what I'm asking

The thousands upon thousands of insects and small numbers of various other creatures that die for every square meter of harvested farm crops collectively laugh at your arbitrary ranking of animal life.

Perhaps you would propose everyone should plant and pick their own veggies by hand? Or is insect life not equivalent to a cute furry mammal? No need to answer that.

>>730677079
Doesn't this definition apply to any and all food preparation? Literally anything and everything other than picking raw food off of a plant and eating it?

>>730677489
DING DING DING DING
>inb4 hurr durr they can't feel pain

>>730677466
Oh dear.
Learn about bioavailability, on top of other factors. This is about as wrong as it gets, for certain foods of course.

>>730677533
Dude, camels, monkeys, apes, even some deer have canines too. Not only carnivorous animals have them you dunce.

>>730677489
All forms of high speed transportation also slaughter insects by the thousands. If you don't walk everywhere you go and sweep the ground in front of you, you can't honestly claim not to kill creatures with nervous systems for your own comfort and convenience.

>>730677466
This is just plain wrong. Cooking releases nutrients that our bodies would not be able to extract otherwise.

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>>730676984
Oh no, you clearly love it when you can use it to make your emotional propaganda films/posters/stencils/catchphrases etc.

>>730677643

...that's the point.

Carnists are always pointing to their canines as evidence that humans should eat meat.

But, that's a stupid thing to say, because tons of herbivores have canines. A lot of them have bigger canines than ours, too

>>730677657
The solution for a vegan would be to just kill themselves so they don't harm any life.
Problem solved.

>>730677688
Yeah. And a tasty one :-)

Are we not going to talk about all of the animal products used to manufacture asphalt? Do you only use dirt paths, or humanely made mortar walkways? Or is your desire to not contribute to animal murder solely with regard to diet?

>>730677603
>>730677666
Both of you are morons, food that has been partially broken down fron the cooking process allows the readily available nutrients to be absorbed. That doesn't mean you can't absorb it if you ate it raw, its just harder to absorb so you would need more of it in order to get the proper amount absorbed by the body.

It doesn't add nutrients, it allows some that are harder to absorb to be readily available.

>>730677139
Don't even bother, by the way they've posted already like 100 strawman comics with this argument in them it's pretty clear they think it's not a valid argument.

>>730677508
I'm not really sure what you're saying here.

If something doesn't come from the earth, then it would be considered artificial. And if something is processed, then there's a good chance it contains something artificial. For example: if you're eating processed lunch meat, it most definitely contains artificial additives.

>>730677843
Wrong. Found this in under 5 minutes. Are you even trying?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/raw-veggies-are-healthier/
>cooking actually boosts the amount of lycopene in tomatoes

>>730677749
It's especially stupid because humans evolved giant brains that invented knives and cooking instead of evolving big teeth.

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http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?newsID=20772
I know you guys will talk bout economy and shit but this link fucking proves economy doesnt matter compared to whats in this link by the un

>>730677843

Not to mention that it allows us to consume a higher number of calories, which allowed us to support the evolution of our brain getting all swole.

This world has fallen so far. Fuck this shit l0l0l0l0l

>>730677749
Yeah, but did you know that all animals are omnivores or carnivores. There are no such thing as a 100% herbivore. All animals will eat meat in small amounts or they other animal products like bones, eggs, bone marrow, milk, etc. Etc. There are videos and videos of herbivorous eating living animals. Where you think mad cow disease comes from?

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>>730677749
>tfw an animal has a bigger dick than you

>>730673192
Science is just wasted on religious people... I get it.

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Instead of vegans blaming all the worlds problems on people with (what I consider) a balanced diet, why don't they address the issue of rampant overpopulation of human beings in the world instead?

Being a vegan is no longer a viable option for everyone with statically equivalent of at least 7 to 9 billion people on earth.

Not only that but you would probably have to immediately kill any animal bred to be eaten in order for this scheme to work.

>>730678096
So now it's animal cruelty, when the "meat is unhealthy" doesn't fit the bill?
Retards

>>730677936
>The reason, he says: the heat breaks down the plants' thick cell walls and aids the body's uptake of some nutrients that are bound to those cell walls.

Should of kept reading this was just below that sentence, but i expected you to look for 1 line out if a paragraph.

>>730678096

Exactly.

I wanna eat dead animals but I don't wanna kill them myself. I also don't wanna raise them myself.

That's why there's an entire industry dedicate to it. I don't see anything wrong with it.

>>730677146
hav no argumat.. i bedder mak som ms paint maymays bout dem posting maymays this will show em xDDD

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>>730678198

No, it's still both, dumbshit

Fuck it.
I eat meat because I like it.
I drink milk because I prefer my coffee with milk.
I eat cheese because it's fucking tasty.

*shrug*

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>>730678199
>he doesn't wanna sniff buttholes

vegans lol

>>730677426
Yeah, but chickpeas taste like chalky mulched ass.

>>730677569
THe way these comics portrait eat meaters reminds me of the way those shitty fundamentalist comics they give out when peaching depict non-christians: As completely ignorant, deluded, cowardly morons.

>>730678180
When you can fit every human in the world shoulder to shoulder in the space of Los Angeles cali. I doubt we are anywhere near an over population crisis.

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>>730676645
>aliens start breeding humans for tasty human flesh
>make a shank out of scrap metal in my breeding cage
>stab manlet alien
>steal his alien gun
>kill all the other aliens
>free all the other humans
>steal their space ship and go to their planet
>BECOME THE ALIEN
>enslave shitty manlet alien race
>fuck alien puss puss on a daily basis

>>730678199
because all canines are wild beasts that should be living off vegetables right?

>>730677658
That's a rancher if they herd livestock. Farmers are crops and shit.

>>730678373
Nigga he's italian. He eats so much fucking pasta sauce he's probably 80% fucking preggo at this point.

>>730677184
Zozzle

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Can vegans eat pussy?

>>730678360
some countries literally cannot self sustain their population even if they cultivated their entire land mass...

>>730677626
FUCK YOU NOW I WANT A HOT DOG

>>730678528
Jesus fuck my man. That's a fucking parody implying that blacks, jews, and women are animals. You idiot.

>>730678273
I tried having an argument but he just want to spam is shitty maymay

BTW, I used Gimp 2 and Picasa 3 but normals call it ms paint

>>730678455
Italians are actually made up of 22% pasta

wikipedia.org/pasta_content_in_Italian_humans

So when are you faggot vegans going to swear off all modern medicine and products? They were made and studies in labs that probably tested them on animals or at some point contain animal products.

>>730677843
Ok... and cooking doesn't completely remove other nutrients, it just removes some of each type, so you'd have to eat more cooked vegetables to get those nutrients. Wtf are you even trying to argue here?

>>730678551
Thats why industrial farming is optimal in those areas. Idgaf if they have their bad living conditions for the animals. As long as its fairly regulated it would improve with time, also im sure any animal living in one would live more comfortable than any wild born animal. Let alone it probably will live better than a large percentage of the human population.