why do boarders even exist? wouldn't world wide open boarders

hows middle school going?

>>730617038
Boarders exist because one morning after troubling dreams Gregor Samsa awoke to find himself transformed into a hideous vermin so he couldn't work and help his family with the rent so they took in boarders, one of whom threw an apple at Gregor as he crawled along the wainscoting.

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>>730617038
the world will evolve to that point. It doesnt have a choice.

The transition getting there is going to be a little rough.

We already live in a global society, money has no nationality.

Were pretty much in a phase shift right now, and either we all get our shit together or we pretty much either all die or completely lose any sort of quality of life on a mass scale

>>730617224

Quite frankly, I doubt anyone here had ever read Kafka.

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>>730617038
I actually do support open borders as a concept, but there is a large difference between the two examples in the image.

Nations in Europe are on the scale of singular states in America. The border between Mexico and the USA is much more massive, and there is a greater divide in terms of overall poverty level between each side.

In Europe, everything has become more intermingled. They also have many many agreements and treaties that ensure that should someone from Holland commit a crime and enter Belgium, they will still be dealt with accordingly. There are far stricter rules once you start going outside of their agreement areas, such as the Schengen area for travel.

>>730617038
Yea you go and live in a country full of benighted people like mexico and you'll understand why we don't want those people.

>>730617038

> wouldn't world wide open boarders lead to a higher standard of living for everyone in the world?

As simple as no.

Just imagine if there were no atlantic ocean back in 1620, you would stolen all that territory from indians maybe two hundred years earlier.

That's why we need frontiers.

>>730617038
>why do boarders even exist?
To pay rent and supplement my income.

Borders, however, should exist to keep filthy beaner culture from destroying beautiful white culture in America and sub-human muslim culture from wrecking everything Europeans have accomplished in art and architecture. Your OP image is cute and everything, but how long until both of those countries turn into literal shit-holes because of the massive influx of islamic filth?

>>730617038
WOW. YOU SHOULD WRITE A LETTER TO TRUMP. YOU JUST SOLVED THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS. SINGLE HANDEDLY

>>730617038
Not too mention the abject poverty and the rampant crime in mexico, which makes those people undesirable.

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>12 year old globalist thinks he knows politics
Have fun in your middle school, faggot

>>730618451
OP is asking a question, not proposing an answer. chill meng

>>730618802
>MUH INTERDEMNSIONAL CHILD MOLESTING GLOBALISTS

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>>730617038
eurotards and their fucking logic

>>730618865
LOL at India building a fence... as if those sand niggers were any better than the sand niggers at the other side of that fence.

Go look up what the average wealth is if you factor in the whole global population. Just the fact that you are capable of shitposting in 4chan through your phone or PC means that you are filthy rich and privileged as fuck compared to most of the world.
And controlling their own borders and providing security for their own citizens is one of the basic things one expects from their own country.

>>730618865
wow people have built fences at some point in history. crazy dude. Next thing you are gonna tell me are some places have houses with roofs!

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all im saying is why do i get to live a privileged life and people in Africa have to endure grinding poverty? what did i do to deserve this high standard of living?

its seems so incredibly unfair

>>730617038
>Why do walls on our houses even exist? Wouldn't having a wide open house lead to higher standards of living for everyone?

>>730617038
Because you can't have open borders and maintain any degree of social security/welfare state.

The exception to this is if you have a global or One World Government but I get the impression that wouldn't be your thing

>>730617545

I assumed it was Kafka because it matches what I know about The Metamorphosis.

>>730619494
so go live in africa

>>730619494
Niggers, arabs, and spics didn't do anything to earn what the west gives them. They shouldn't be able to just come over here and collect welfare while I have to bust my ass to survive. Fuck niggers, fuck spics, fuck arabs and fuck you.

>>730619531
ding ding ding for the correct answer.
If there was little or no difference in job prospects, welfare availability or standard of living between the US and Mexico, that border would look the same.
What champagne socialists need to realize is that it's THEIR neetbux on the line here.

>>730619494
You had ancestors that gave half a shit about each other and their descendants (you). Something the africans will never learn if the best and brightest among them keep abandoning their country for greener pastures. They simultaneously make both countries worse.

>>730617545
You are most certainly mistaken.

>>730619494
You nothing, your country/people/etc. They have a higher IQ on average which allows them to come up with solutions to economic problems and improve their standard of living. Subsaharan african IQs are around 70-80, whereas Europe is above 100. So niggers need to go through a harsh natural selection to remove most of their stupider peers, only then they might improve.

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>>730618862
>Implying they dont exist
Shameful

>>730619494
>why do i get to live a privileged life and people in Africa have to endure grinding poverty?
Because you live close enough to a rich man that fucking you long enough might get him shot. Keeping common men where they are now means they mostly just shoot each other.

That's the only reason they let you have as much as you have.

>>730619494
Boo Hoo, life isn't fair. Get a fucking helmet and deal with it.

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>>730618329
>benighted people like mexico
And just why do you think that Mexico might be more benighted than, say, the United Snakes?

>>730618171
This guy gets it.

Open borders and free trade work when the systems are close in relation.

In the case of the USA and Mexico there is such a disparity that Mexico brings the USA down to its level more than USA brings Mexico up to theirs.

This is mostly due to the gangster style politics in Mexico where drug lords can pay off the police and federal employees.

The USA went through this growing pain back in the 30's; corrupt governments and crimminals running the country.

Don't get me wrong we still have a shit ton of corrupt politicians but they found out it is better to starve the masses than kill them out right.

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>>730619722
lol white trash detected...always at the bottom despite all the white privileges

>>730619969
Your have the IQ of a nigger, write more cogent argument you stupid fuck.

>>730620054
Cause most of those spics have a lower IQ and don't invest on their children's education.

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>>730618432
Gringos, gringos, über Alles.

>>730617038
>why do boarders even exist?
learn some economy history then

>>730620110
You must be a sand nigger or some of those other "oppressed" minorities that leach off the rest of us.

>>730617038
So uh... do you think there's a correlation between open borders and all those bombs going off on your trains?

>>730617038
generally speaking, yes. But you only get a better quality of life for the bottom if you cut nice stuff on the top.

and i do not want that

>>730617038
>why do boarders even exist?
To demarcate laws of the land, and who protects and thus enforces their rule on what territory.

>wouldn't world wide open boarders lead to a higher standard of living for everyone in the world?
No.

>>730619494
So move to Africa and give away all your possessions to the Africans. Put your money where your mouth is you fucking coward.

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>>730618451
>LETTER TO TRUMP
He doesn't even know how many of those are in his alphabet.

>>730617038
Open borders work only if you have:
1) Similar Cultures
2.) Same standard of living

Otherwise the idea sucks.

>>730619494
Then move to Africa u stupid fuck.

>>730620464
Socialists aren't about giving away their money, mate. They're about giving away your money.

>>730617038
>having open boarders with a 3rd world shithole

do you have doors at your house? why don't you leave them unlocked and your windows open?

because holland and belgium are whites, whereas usa and mexico is whites and nonwhites

>>730617402
It will never happen. Fences and walls are forever.
As long as someone has something, they will want to protect it. That includes countries.

>>730620655
Oh I know.

I also know this is all bait, but it's still fun to argue about.

>>730618865
Trupophants and their idiocy. Inset #6 shows the two walls that already exist between the US and Mexico. Your Fearless Leader isn't going to build a wall that already exists in duplicate! He's going to pocket the appropriations for building what already exists. Fucking get a clue. You done been hosed!

>>730620110
Anyone who spouts "white privilelige" black privelage' "male Privelage" needs their fucking throat cut ASAP.

>>730617038
They exist because OP is a faggot.

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>>730620144
This is some postmodern shit anon.

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>>730619494
You should have made sure Hillary won.

As if anyone in the United Snakes ever cared about anyone other than themselves!

You guys sound like retards some time, not today many countries have border walls.

>>730621122
And why the fuck should we give two shits about worthless starving niggers in africa? All they do is have kids which they can't even feed. Let them all fucking starve.

>>730617038
Not everyone will agree to a one world government. What happens to the people that don't want it? Are you going to force them? Fucking K to the EK.

>>730617038
Go live in Saudi Arabia, Sudan or Ethiopia if open borders is such a good idea you fucking naive idiot

>>730617038

They exist for political reasons.

Maybe in a couple thousand years there will be a one world government. Maybe not. By then we'll be battling moon colonies and possibly aliens so we'll have to band together.

>>730617187
one and only comment that shines light on what jr here just posted.

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>>730620204
Public education is a part of the federal Constitution in Mexico. Their students are about two years more advanced than are those in the US even though they spend half as much time in class.

The fact that you call Mexicans "spics" shows that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>730621635
Uh... source?

I agree op, borders are nothing more than a way to control our freedom of movement, nationalism itself is a pretty fucking stupid concept.

>>730619494
>why do I get a privileged life
Because your parents worked for it, you fucking mongo. They raised you up so you could do better than they did, as did their parents before them. This is the fun fact as to why niggers never change. Asians came over lived rough lives and made a better future for their children and further generations. Niggers bitched. Guess that's what happens when your mother is a hooker and a crackhead so your dad leaves before the dribble runs all the way down her thigh. It's literally the parents' fault that their children are in a shitty situation. All this finger pointing victim complex shit is nothing more than a lazy man's logic trying to find reason in denial.

>>730620287
OP seems to have been speaking Buddhistically. Or perhaps Marleyistically.
https://youtu.be/vdB-8eLEW8g

>>730621635
The fact that you spics can't produce a sustainable economic growth without the US suggests to me that the education provided by your shitty government is tenuous at best. Where are the fruits of those investments?

>>730621635
That booming education yet you live in a shit hole.

>>730621635
By the way, I should point out how accurate your image is, mexicans are soooooo educated that the best jobs they can aspire for here are based on physical labor.

>>730620551
I live in Tijuana. I also knew the Basque border under Franco. You have no idea what you're proposing. The greater the inequality, the more interesting the confluence.

>>730621635
>>730621757
This is pretty true, i came to the states when i was 9, the principal made a big deal asking my parents to hold me back one year to make sure i "catch up" to their clearly advanced education. I refused, stayed in my grade and i knew more math, science, history and geography than every kid there. The teacher hated me. I still remember her shit name Ms.Coxs, the always treated me like shit because i took her teaching degree and shat all over it by being smarter than all of her shit kids.

Anyways, its easy to talk shit about things you dont know or bother to know. I live in both places, and i can tell you that Mexican kids are much smarter than American kids, its common knowledge that US education system is shit.

>>730621252
As they are now, so shall ye be soon. Mexico is already deporting undesirable gringos!

>>730622206
Oh yea because allowing in impoverished, emaciated, benighted immigrants is such a blessing to this country right?

>>730622430
HAHAHAHA what a good joke.

>>730617038
There is a big difference in two communities getting along, and Mexico invading the US and forcing the US to inherit Mexican problems.

>inb4 Mexicans aren't the problem

I won't argue with retards who don't see facts just because they can't admit they were wrong.

>>730622043
Amerifag here. I've actually been to Mexico quite a bit, and it's really not that bad. It's definitely not as wealthy as the US or Canada, but I really don't get the hate.

>>730621883
>>730622069

Its literally corruption, pick up a book here and there.

>>730621757
(Calls for "source" on /b/)
QED, dude. Or ask a fucking Mexican. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%A1Ask_a_Mexican!

>>730617038
Last I checked there were no dirty spics in Holland or Belgium.

>>730622594
What about how we fuck over Mexico with our insatiable desire for illicit drugs that we simultaneously insist must be illegal?

>>730622681
And who's responsible for that corruption? You people, either through your feckless inability to hold your governors unaccountable or because you directly abet them on this corruption.

>>730621883
>you spics
You shure won dum fuk.

>>730622069
>mexicans are soooooo educated that the best jobs they can aspire for here are based on physical labor.
Then why is anybody concerned about losing a job to a Mexican immigrant? Just improve yourself and leave the grunt work to them.

>>730617402
Borders will always exist, reddit. There never existed a time in human history where different nations and tribes casually strolled into each other's territories. It's not even a human thing either, plenty of animals have the same conception of "territories" where no outside packs are able to tread. It makes sense too, you wouldn't want a random outsider to waltz into your house and make it his home would you?

Liberals who live in their gated communities are foolish enough to believe that everyone has good intentions, but that's not true. If you want the abolition of all borders and boundaries, then prepare for your upper class suburban lifestyle to devolve into hell. There are lot of criminals outside the border who want your shit.

>>730623134
You don't know enough about the topic to hold a valid opinion on it. Go outside, take a walk and re evaluate your life man.

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>>730617038
>border between 3rd world hell hole run by drug lords and America, which used to be a good country
>border between white Christian nations that share the same values

no, because niggers like you, who lack values, education, genetic fitness, and everything that is required to have a happy, safe, and prosperous community of people would ruin them. stay in your hell hole and prey that the eternal victims in whitey's country pipe down, or its going to be colonialism, the holocaust and the crusades all wrapped up into one.

>>730623195
I do improve myself, the problem isn't about them taking a job (trust me, they'll never get mine) the problem is them bringing their shitty culture and ideas to this country and voting for more free shit, just like niggers do here.

>>730622043
I live in a three-bedroom condo right on the beach in Rosarito for less than two hundred dollars a month. Electricity costs about ten bucks a month, water about three, cell phone seven. Our government is overtly corrupt while yours is still covert. So not sure what your point is.

>>730623343
Oh but surely you are such an erudite in this topic aren't you? Follow your own advice before quibbling and making excuses for those savages trying to infest this country.

>>730623554
Who are you to say that one culture is inferior or superior to another? And what ideas are those? Working hard to provide for their family? These are Mexicans we're talking about they're always busting their ass.

Ask a real born in Mexico, Mexican that works with KKK members anything.

>>730622422
Mrs. Cox? Did you live in Michigan?

>>730622539
Last year, in one day, the immigration folks rounded up more than 1,500 illegal gringos and sent them back where they came from. More than four hundred of those were flagged in the US system and went to prison for outstanding warrants. In just one day!

>>730620054
lol, niggers have literally spent the last 60 years blaming whitey for everything, despite the fact that US spends hundreds of millions every year enforcing its affirmative action and non-discrimination laws. niggers and spics literally don't have to pay for their education, and they get auto-hired by any big company to hit those quotas, and yet they are still marching around to the tune of the eternal victim. I'm going to make them understand what it means to be a victim, I'm going to make them earn that title.

>>730622481
LOL classic Benighted Guy. Watch out! Benighted Guy strikes again!

>>730623719
I live both in the US and Mexico and know enough about both cultures and politics to have a valid opinion.

It seems like you just need someone to either blame or be afraid of.

>>730623763
The simple fact that mexico isn't doing as well as the US is proof enough that our culture is superior, which by the way, culture isn't limited only to the regional foods, music and other trivialities, it also encompasses the different attitudes when it comes to how a country is ran and governed.

>>730623936
For a small time yes but thats not where i know Cox from.

>>730623083
You didn't really check, did you? Or maybe those spics washed themselves shortly before you showed up.

>>730624084
7/10

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>>730623554
>their shitty culture
Ay-yup. Stay classy, gringuito.

>>730623719
Careful, /b/tards, there's an irritated 18th-century English nobleman in this thread.

>>730624084
The biggest reason why Mexico is a shithole today is because of our drug war. We're the worlds #1 importer of drugs while we insist they remain illegal. Criminal organizations make shit tons of money from trafficking drugs which they in turn use to pay off police, military and government officials to let them roam free. Couple that with all the guns they get from us and it's no surprise to anybody with critical thinking skills that Mexico sucks.

>>730617545
Everyone at my school had to read it

>>730623936
You a yooper

>>730623719
Looks like you've riled a few frijoleros here, chico. Better quit while you're behind. Even Salma Hayek can make you look foolish and she's a malinchista.

>>730624353
So being a well educated person is a bad thing?? Okay..... that explains why mexicans are an utter failure.

I guess if Archimedes took the planet and shook it like a snow globe and everyone ended up redistributed at random, there would be no need for borders. For like, a good couple minutes, anyway.
>HidingMyTears.jpg

>>730624084
>The simple fact that mexico isn't doing as well as the US
Not a fact. Try harder, Donald.

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>>730617038
If you can't understand that simple image, I can't help you anon.

Should post north and south Korea border

>>730624640
Post doesn't say anything about education, it implies you sound like a caricature of an irritable 18-century English nobleman. If you could just start ending your posts with "Hwat hwat!" that'd be like a cherry on top, for me.

>>730624809
Are you that retarded to suggest that the US isn't a more wealthy country than mexico with a better standard of living??? Did your mom drop you while you were a baby?

>>730624084
That's not true. Mexico is doing fine, the problem is the distribution of wealth. Mexico has some of the richest people in the world.

>>730621523
Ironically enough, Saudi Arabi is the last country to welcome Syrian "refugees", they are wise enough to know what will happen if you let the virus in.

>>730625044
Oh I wonder why that is the case, hmmm could it be that not having a diverse economy leads to huge income inequality?

>>730617038
boarders exist because people sometimes rent out rooms in their house for money or work.

>>730617038
Globalist nigger.

>>730624950
Which is way better than being a beaner.

>>730624369
Speaking from Mexico, I can assure you that the country is not a shithole. We have our faults, and who doesn't? The beginning of wisdom, as Aristotle said, is the definition of terms.

>>730625163
Yes....that's what I said...

>>730617545
totally wrong, but the metamorphosis is what plebs read so they can say they know kafka.

>>730625055
Probably has more to do with the fact that they're a big supporter of the illegal rebellion against the lawful Syrian government, so they can hope to install a government ruled by the same religious sect that rules Saudi Arabia, and are largely responsible for those people (of other religious beliefs) being displaced.

>>730624818
Isn't this how the Panama Canal came to exist?

>>730625248
Oh yeah, well, your mom!
>Fucking got em!

>>730617038

Because of human nature civilization requires some sort of organized authority to function.

It doesn't matter how idealist you are, people are animals.

>>730625250
I'm not going to argue semantics with you when I'm trying to convince my fellow countrymen that the best way to improve Mexico and the U.S. at the same time would be to end our drug war.

>>730625043
Still not a fact.

>>730624809
>country run more by drug lords than government
>do they even HAVE a military?
>such a fucking horrible quality of life that the majority of the population wants to leave the country
You're a moron.

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>>730617038
NO.

>>730625323
Yeah, sounds about right. And EU and US governments alike are kissing those asses. Seriously fucked.

>>730625250
I refuse to agree to your terms of definition. It is the policy of the United States not to negotiate with philosophers.

>>730625265
What did you read to say you know Kafka?

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>>730618399
>Just imagine if there were no atlantic ocean back in 1620, you would stolen all that territory from indians maybe two hundred years earlier.
>stolen

I think you mean "conquered," Chief Crying-Like-Bitch

>>730617038
Maybe yes. But its the greedy fuckers that think they are in charge

>>730617402
>>730617402
>being this delusional
why don't you move to mogadishu or juarez then since it's all the same global society...

>>730623511

Mexico was never a good country.

>>730625484
>country run more by drug lords than government
Hmm, wonder whose fault that is.
>Biggest market: U.S.
>Biggest contributor of weapons: U.S.

Our border between Canada isn't fortified. Mexico (and Central/South America) is shit. The people are savages. That's why we need a strong southern border.

>>730617038
Yeah, and that's why Europe is filled with raping, murdering muslims.

Kill yourself OP, you SJW moronic fucktard.

>>730617402
Wow, fuck of kike shill.

>>730623511
Man, someone sounds like they have no job and has been spending his free time sister-cousin fucking.

>>730617038

Many people draw a line between Humans and every other animal on the planet, but humans are still animals. We deal with the same struggles that other animals deal with. Control of resources.

We need places to live, collect food and water, etc. The racism and xenophobia that you see today is rooted in the tribal dawn of man.

Different peoples look different, speak different, worship differently, eat different things and so on and so forth. It was just natural that these ethnic groups/tribes, and later nations, developed boundaries.

They don't just separate ideologies, but laws, morals, and cultures. It's cliche, but Humans will not come together as a species until we face an outside threat that's greater than our own differences whether it be a apocalyptic epidemic or alien contact.

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>>730617038
We'll get there anon. Not in our lifetimes though, and that's probably a good thing. It'd be chaos.

>>730625716
You guys have the option to not move drugs into the US, of course being mired in poverty as you people are leaves you without much option.

>>730625454
Wrong.

Its a revolution.

Corruption is too big. Its corruption to the presidential level. Which is fine, i mean even the US is corrup to its presidential level but the difference is that Mexico presidents have been selling off Mexico for years.

A good revolution is needed in Mexico its to the point where if you try to change it from the insede you will dissappear. And even if you take up arms like the Auto defence groups that took over towns and cities, you will be over run by mexican military. Even tho its unconstitutional for Mexican military to intervene with auto defence groups.

A real revolution is needed. The only thing stopping it from happening is foreign back up, a revolution costs money.

>>730625767
How many people from mexico/central america have you actually met in real life?

>>730625994
And you guys have the option to not be a contributor to the drug lords reign. See how it goes both ways?

>>730617038
Belgian people are fucking bro tier. Us Dutchfags love them. Plus we have an open-border agreement in Yurope. Mexicans are smelly lazy fucks who are to be kept out

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>>730625163
Do not fall into the us-vs-them trap. Hating your neighbor simply for being your neighbor is against your better interests. The one percent is international so the ninety-nine percent are likewise international. Borders are merely cultural while money is pervasive.

¡Tierra y libertad!
–Ricardo Flores Magón

>>730626014
I live in the south, so thousands upon thousands. all illegal. all savages.

>>730617545
i liked the metamorphosis. although i got confused by his size many times

>>730625484
>country run more by drug lords than government
Gee, I wonder if that might have something to do with a rich northern neighbor who buys most of the worlds drugs, while insisting that they be illegal, thereby creating conditions perfect for drug cartels
>do they even HAVE a military?
Corrupted by drug cartels, I wonder who might indirectly be responsible for that?
>such a fucking horrible quality of life that the majority of the population wants to leave the country
See above

>>730626108
I have never heard of illegals going to the south. Do you mean texas?

>>730620054
because of THEIR government and THEIR lack of motivation to do anything about it. maybe you should research shit before blaming mexico's problems on the U.S., you snarky, sniveling little vagina. mexico's biggest problem=mexicans.

>>730626108
Funny, as a northerner living in the south I feel the same way about all you rural filth.

>>730625716
>WAAAAHHHH IT'S AMERIKKKAZ FAULT THIS COUNTRY IS SHIT
If the Philippines have taught us anything, handling a massive drug problem isn't as hard as you limp-wristed faggots make it out to be.

>>730626094
How many mexicans can you possibly get in the Netherlands?

>>730625454

It will never happen. Trump is pulling from Nixon and Reagan and he will ramp up the drug war.

The money that is seized from the illicit drug trade powers our law enforcement.

>>730626321
There's a reason they call 'em wetbacks. Fuckers can swim.

>>730617187
Same law, same schools. Not this millennium, obviously

>>730626259
>6
All that's happening in the Philippines is that low-level dealers or users are getting murdered or arrested, while serious drug dealers are still making tons of money. Pretty much the same thing in the U.S. only less Asians. Have you learned nothing from the 50+ years of drug war failure? Or how about our experience with alcohol prohibition? Can you even history and patterns?

>>730626259
You are asking a bunch of actual peasants with pitchforks, to go against heavily armed, militant drug lords (heavily armed because of the U.S. I may add).
But, you guys are the best at never taking responsibility for anything, so no surprises here.

>Itt poor butthurt whites that need someone to blame or be afraid of samefagging like there is no tomorrow.

I get it man, more white girls are flocking to minorities lately its crazy, i understand how you would be upset at that. But coming to /b/ and ranting to strangers about your shit opinions isnt going to help you.

Go outside take a walk and re evaluate your life so tyreese and jose dont take your girl and your job.

>>730626215
Texas is more like "Metastasized Appalachia" than it is "The South", don't you find?

>>730622612
go to juarez puto

>>730626330
Daily reminder to shoot your local cops and DEA agents.

>>730626400
I don't see how they could possibly be lazy than...

>>730626518
/Thread

>>730626537
Oh no! you mean to tell me there is a dangerous city in a country? Guess I'll go back to Detroit and think about life...

>>730626585
It's a Republican Schroedinger thing. They're lazy, but they steal all the jobs, too.

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>>730626564

I watched the 25 year anniversary special on the LA Riots that History Channel had on the other day. Jesus. I wish I had the balls to act out on the authorities like that.

Modern police are so militarized and they just get more and more fascist laws to enforce every year. I can't wait till it explodes.

ATTICA!!!!

>>730626241
Detroit and Chicago are such paragons of civility right?! They aren't the cities with the leading criminal activity in america right?

>>730626907
>cherrypicking

>>730617224
Why are you describing the plot to the metamorphosis

>>730624054
yeah, and if you had to pick one....

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>>730617038
I've always considered myself an atheist for as long as I can remember, yet I find this quote from Apocalypse 20 very fitting of what awaits our western civilization :

"And when the thousand years shall be finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go forth, and seduce the nations, which are over the four quarters of the earth [...] and shall gather them together to battle, the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they came upon the breadth of the earth, and encompassed the camp of the saints, and the beloved city."

>>730625454
>argue semantics
I've been dealing with this thread while listening to the Grateful Dead do an extended Terrapin Station (1983), good idea!
This isn't semantics, and calling Mexico a shithole is merely ad captandum vulgus. The drug nonsense is just that: nonsense. No government has the right to tell you what not to do to your own self, it should control only what you do to other people.

>>730626476
Keep riding that "America is Evil" cock, I'm sure you feel so morally superior right now.

You know what, America should own up to its mistakes. We should just sail a few aircraft carriers into the gulf and black out the sky with airstrikes and annex whatever's left. Letting Mexico exist is our greatest mistake.

citizenship is slavery

/b/ loves the Mexicans, go home uncle /pol/ you are drunk.

>>730626907
More people, so yeah, more crimes.
Your trailer-pack-filled town with a total of 50 people is bound to have very little crime, besides the meth use of course.

>>730624809
being this retarded...

>>730627091
Are you TRYING to prove my point?

Borders exist because mestizos are subhuman trash, and we don't want America turning into one of their shit countries.

>>730626960
Lol I'm so fucking sad and tired that taking pot-shots at people's spelling by way of quoting the metamorphosis is actually making me feel better.

>>730627100
You have to use meth when stepped on coke is $120/g

>>730621122
You do realise that the West does help Africa a fuck ton, and it is that help that is killing many chances they have of becoming self-sufficient and prosperous? Why should Unbutu pay his local farmer to buy produce for sale from that farmer's field, when he can just get a massive bag of rice and beans for free from relief organisations, paid for by Western tax payers? That's the type of shit our help causes. They have no reason to hold their inept governments accountable when we'll just waltz in and fix their problems, and the brain drain from those societies fucks them even harder, thanks to open-door policy leftists in the West.

>>730625530
Well played!

>>730626876
Oh don't worry, our turn will come. Just wait for our shit-tier 3rd world electrical grid to kick the bucket one day because we haven't invested money into proper maintenance and upgrades. Then when a few major cities go dark and all cops have are their radios things will get ugly. Or wait for Trump to double down on the drug war like he's Richard Nixon, and you will see some major blowback. After the Obama years of allowing states decide for themselves on cannabis this genie is not going back into the bottle. Not when more than half the states and D.C. have medicinal cannabis and nearly a fifth of the country has legal recreational.

Actually world has been like that for most of human history. Without borders, you pay taxes for whoever walks in with his guys. if you want some governmental agency to help you, they need money to work, and you pay taxes to them.

If there was to be one government, who is running it? Even in there in USA, there's plenty of municipalities running each state, then government and senate, and finally president. Actual power lies so far from people there's nothing even a very large populace can do to make an effect. Unless it's loud enough, which more often than not translates into stupidity.

We're heading there with EU... Borders are needed to keep the civilization together. Without them, everything gets too complicated for anyone to control.

>>730625044
and some of the poorest... which FAR outnumber the affluent. i was there a lot in '08-'11, and no, they were not doing fine at all.

>>730627100
Have you compared per capita murder rates you stupid fuck? It seems that for all your gloating of being superior to trailer park trash that you have the education and mental capacity of one.

>>730627281
That's because coke is for people with money, of which you rural trash have very little.

>>730627407
Yeah...that's what I said...
What part of Mexico were you at?

>>730627025
Pretty much Mexico. The people are more lively and there is a lot more to do. The days seem to go by a lot slower, and it feels like you can do more in one day.
That and i dont have to deal with half retarded people who talk about something without knowing anything about it.

>>730625599
the trial, amerika, the castle, letter to his father, the collected works. oh and the blue octavo notebooks

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>>730617038
Israel has a wall and has been succesful at keeping out muslims and black people making israel the least diverse place on earth with the largest white/arab jewish population in the world.

Get fucked cuckbois!

>>730626003
Ricardo Flores Magón vive y sigue en pie de guerra.

>>730627574
Country Doctor is pretty fucked, isn't it?

>>730625716
always somebody else's fault...

>>730626091
The drug lords took over the US presidency with Reagan. That's what Col. North was trying to tell eveyone.

>>730619494
>its seems so incredibly unfair
It is, and you can help.
It doesn't take much. Just donate what you feel comfortable donating to respectable international aid organizations (UNICEF, for example), and they will do their best to help improve situations in countries where it's needed.
Other than that, trade deals are made between certain African nations and the EU, for example, to ensure that the countries that can are a part of the international trade market.

>>730626091
more americans than not do not contribute to your drug lords.

>>730627828
Then why did he roll over and take the blame when he could have outed Reagan and actually done something?

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>>730627610
>aspiring to be like Israel

>>730617402
Haha fucking retard SMH fam SMH

>>730619494
Move to africa then you bleeding heart liberal shitstain. Oh didnt think so. You probably want to take everyone elses money and give it to them as long as it doesnt effect you. Africans have had just as much time on this planet to make them selves rich living on rich farmland thats full of oil and diamonds and they still cant do shit. Why? Because they are a shit worthless race. Go fuck yourself.

>>730627610
What's a white Arab Jew? I don't see that a lot on pie charts of Israeli demographics.

>>730626476
the U.S. was founded by people who did exactly that (going up against heavily armed superior numbers)
and, yes, this
>>730627091

Nederland is gewoon geweldig

"The Netherlands is just amazing"

>>730620067
that's not why. it's because beaners are stupid and the only way they can earn a large amount of money is from selling drugs to smarter people getting them addicted which lowers the previously smart persons iq. Mexico is an intelligence leach. 98% of mexico is the retard in the class room metaphorically bashing people in the head with a hammer and robbing them

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>>730627610

>>730628161
So was Vietnam

>>730627902
The very fact that drugs are criminalized across the entire U.S. makes us all complicit. We're sending money and guns to Mexico, they send us drugs and people fleeing violence from the drug cartels we indirectly created. Then we bitch at them for sending us drugs and people trying to escape that.

>>730618432
That's why without borders the best answer is to be plenty of borders, for each town, each 10000 people. Many many small small governments

>>730617038
Jesus faggot, Holland nor Belgium have a problem with drug cartel violence and cartel ran government. Would you stop and think before putting this Shit on this board.

>>730627610
Speaking as an Israeli it sucks that were All jewish and killed or kick out anyone non jewish.

Lets just say we have some genetic problems starting to show up more due to being too Jewish.

>>730628161
We never would have won without the aid of France, who supplied us with over 90% of all the gunpowder that we used in battle, and whose navy was the decisive factor in our ultimate victory.

>>730628211
Idk if you are this retarded or just a troll.

>>730627534
suuuuuuuuure.....

>>730628245
we should kill the drug users i the US as well. as a bonus it will drastically reduce the prison population and thus niggers

>>730628211
>selling drugs to smarter people
Well if they're the ones making money while our police are corrupted because they like the funding the drug war provides them which of us is smarter?

>>730619494
So balance the scales a bit. Go homeless and hungry, and donate to NGO's that help the Africans.

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>>730619494
You're a massive faggot!!!

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>>730628427
>we should kill the drug users

>>730628343
Best part: France didn't give a fuck about LIBERTY, they did it to troll Britain

>>730628346
If you actually went outside you would know that there are much better places to live than in the states. I honestly hate the people here.. they are too far up their own asses to even consider the idea that maybe just maybe, the world doesn't revolve arround them. They go on image boards and spew some uneducated views on things they dont know about. Its just a waste man.

>>730628328
Oh don't worry, sooner or later the U.S. will change it's tune about Israel, as more people begin to recognize you as the strategic liability that you are.

>>730627902
>more americans than not
bitch, doing illegal drugs is like an olympic sport for americans.

>>730626218
>mexico's biggest problem=mexicans
If you mean Peña Nieto and his group of cocksuckers, I'll agree with you. But the president in the US and his catamites are also closet homosexuals. We has met the enemy and he is us!

>>730627504
Cd Juarez mostly, also Laredo, Nogales

>>730627775
uhhh a lot of his stories are messed up

>>730628646
That's the only reason anybody ever does anything. The funny thing is that France and Spain (who also joined in the war but was less helpful to our independence than France) ultimately lost the global war. The only theater of war that England lost is in the Americas, they successfully held on to all their other territories.

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>>730626520
>Metastasized Appalachia
Good name!

>>730628328
You just need to schedule some Sephardi-Ashkenazi singles mixer parties. Problem solved.

>>730628245
>makes us all complicit
typical bullshit from some kid raised in an era with no such thing as personal responsibility

>>730617038
Borders play an essential role in a competitive global market. Not only do they encourage us to try and do better than our neighbors but also prevent economic crisis from affecting everyone when it's isolated in a few countries.

>>730617402
>money has no nationality.
Euro trash. Fucking untrue. We are nowhere near ready for a united planet. If anything were moving away from that potentiality.

>>730627094
You need to learn how to say "no". A citizen without a voice is merely a slave.

>>730628343
and i guarantee the U.S. would jump at the chance to fund 'freedom fighters' in mexico and instill an overt puppet state (covertly is already on lockdown via cia/cartel hierarchy) just like they've done in so many other places...

>>730628900
>You just need to schedule some Sephardi-Ashkenazi singles mixer parties. Problem solved.
Jewish girls are encouraged to meet non-jews, what you propose would kinda never happen and is highly frowned upon, yet meeting a christian guy or any other guy is considered a big win, figure that out.

>>730625457
2016 US GDP - $18.56 trillion
2016 Mexico GDP - $2.307 trillion

These are facts.

>>730628476
hur we make money from selling drugs it means we are smart. Nigger. If you were smart you'd be making money the same way the people you are selling drugs to make money. By producing something of value. Any fucking retard with an iq of 60 can sneak drugs across the boarder and exchange it for money. It doesn't take intelligence it takes guts. And when the options are starve or sell drugs it's not like you really had a choice anyways. Ya don't see beaner Steve jobs introducing the new Iphone-o or Mexico NASA talking about sending a probe to mars. And by the way that shit is about to stop. We are building a massive fucking wall to stop the pawns from crossing the boarder so we can focus on the bigger chess pieces like the trucks planes and tunnels

>>730628658
i have lived all over the world, my mother is from mexico. there are some good places and people in the us. fuck you and your presumptions, people like YOU are the ones that are 'up their own asses'.....

>>730627472
>per capita murder
Ha ha ha ha.

>>730629026
What the fuck are you talking about? You're the one stating that we have no responsibility for Mexico being the way it is, despite the fact that our demand for drugs has corrupted every aspect of their government. Any American who bitches about Mexico being a shithole without recognizing that they are like that because our money for drugs has broken their government needs to take a long walk off a short pier.

>>730617038
have to keep the browns out.

>>730629366
Mexico 127 million people
America 300 million people.
dividing population from gdp shows that Americans make 7 times more money per person

>>730629381
>By producing something of value.
Like drugs? Or what is it then? Tell me what you do that produces so much value that you feel justified in looking at an economic decision through a moral view. The wall will never happen.

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>>730629366
You'd think he'd bother to look up the fact in google or something before spouting off inanities and making a fool out of himself.

>>730617038
Nope. Those countries are bordered off for a reason. IIf every bum in the world comes to us and expects us to take care of them. We will become bums ourselves.
Borderless only works when both countries are equals, economy wise.

>>730617038
It absolutely would, IF you killed off all the niggers, shit skins and Muslims...

But since people aren't willing to do that, we need borders.

>>730628699
for young americans. the rest of the users/older/housewives are doing legal drugs. the modern opioid prescription addiction in america is the biggest addiction epidemic in history, and its 'legal'.

>>730627925
You should listen to his testimony. He answered your question. He took one for the Gipper.

>>730629284
Maybe, but it would just be more of the same. A corrupt government looks the other way so drug cartels can make money.

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>>730622430
Good keep sending them further south for all I care

>>730627902
>more americans than not do not contribute
Pick one.

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>>730617038

That happened in the last 20 years or less.

I'm 23 and old enough to remember border checkpoints between Italy and Slovenia, Italy and France, then again between France and Spain. Now they're all open road, with just a sign telling you you switched countries, just like states in the US. (pic related)

Croatia has been in the EU for a few years now, but the border checkpoint is still there. It's more swift and they check almost nothing, in summer at rush hour the cops just wave you through without even checking your papers.
But it's still there.

Removing borders takes time, and you can only do it if the countries adhere to more or less the same values.
Again, states in the US or countries in the EU.

At some point there has to be a border. Even if Turkey joins the EU, you can't possibly expect to have an open border with Syria.

Eventually yes, the whole world will be without borders.
But it will take centuries or even millennia before we get to that point.

>>730629765
Ok, I understand that he took one for the team so Reagan didn't have charges of high treason to answer to but I was asking that other guy, if North really wanted to let everyone know that drug lords had taken over then why would he roll over and not do that? The post I responded to seemed to be painting North in the light as someone who wanted to expose drug related corruption in the U.S. which doesn't make sense since he fell on the sword for Reagan.

nations have BORDERS
houses have boards bricks,cement drywall to keep cooties out & the place warm,and unwanted BOARDERS out.
I E,the nation IS OUR HOUSE.
now be nice throw open your front door,invited the homeless to clean out the pantry raid your fridge
take your shoes,your electronics the dog,the cat yer lil sis,,,gwon DO IT! DO IT NOW?

>>730617038
They exist because it tells people, and other bodies of government the extent or reach of one's territory and jurisdiction extends to.

We've always had boarders as Man, and even animals tend to have boarders (I.E. marking territory, they're making boarders of their space.) It's just how we are wired. I don't see anything wrong with boarders.

Open Boarders is a terrible idea.

>>730629531
>we have no responsibility for Mexico being the way it is
we don't, it is their government's fault.
> our demand for drugs has corrupted every aspect of their government
no, the greed of the politicians and narco fuckheads has corrupted them

the cancer is corruption. the symptoms are the availability of drugs in the us, and the shit conditions in mexico

>>730628211
>because beaners are stupid
If you only knew!
https://youtu.be/qH3RtASLdTA

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>>730617038
>why do boarders even exist?
Because some people have more room than they need, and can use the money from renting the space out.

/your pic only had borders, not boarders. You should fix that.

>>730630337
Are you being deliberately stupid?

>>730629651
innovation. find a problem or a desired improvement to an existing product. And create a new tool that solves the problem or improves a product. use your brain cells to create something new that enriches peoples lives

>>730629622
ok, so making 7 times less = just as well off?

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>>730617545
>Quite frankly, I doubt anyone here had ever read Kafka.
You'd be wrong, faggot.

>>730630512
>that enriches peoples lives
I see you're still looking at an economic decision through moral lenses. Good job.

>>730630509
>Are you being deliberately stupid?

Are we on 4chan?

>>730629825
lrn2comprehension feggt

>>730630528
How much is our higher pay really worth when things are much more expensive?

>>730630509
are you?

>>730628245
This fellow is telling you the truth. (You don't have to believe him or me, you can read Corey McWilliams's second edition of North from Mexico.) But it't not just drugs! It's food and oil and everything else as well. It's what they call geopolitics. Anyone ever study the Monroe Doctrine in school?

>>730630812
>This fellow is telling you the truth
the problem is he or she is trying to pass the blame for the actions of a small number of ruling elite to an entire nation of people (who in actuality have little to no power or influence).

>>730630782
You are advocating for more of the same shit that we have been doing that has been proven to not work. I am advocating for ambitious change that would remove the overwhelming majority of income that drug cartels get. You are arguing for the continuance of a system that has made them filthy right. I am arguing for a policy change that will effectively bankrupt them. Which one of us is stupid again?

>>730631044
>who in actuality have little to no power or influence
Individual people have little influence, the people as a whole have all the influence.

>>730631069
filthy rich*

>>730628249
This is a very important concept! Please think about it. Democracy can exist only on a celular basis because the devil we know is better than the devil we don't.

If you don't work with your neighbors, you do not live in a democracy.

¡Tierra y libertad!
Land and freedom!

>>730617038
So you want third world brown people to invade your home and shit out 10 children a piece that you will be forced to take care of?

Because neither holland and Belgium aren't a pieces of shit that one of them wants to keep out of their country.

>>730628328
Please leave Israel now. It is not the Jewish homeland. The area just south of Babylon is the Jewish homeland, so go there. Please!

>>730631069
and you are contending that we are all responsible for the actions of some politicians the cia and dea and cartels and mexican government when none of us had anything to do or say about drug policy. not only is this collective guilt trip you try and lay on people with your self righteous moral high ground 'we are all complicit' insulting, it's bullshit, hence typical reasoning from someone educated in the era of leftist propaganda...i'm not arguing for the continuance of any system, i'm not arguing policy at all. you said 'we are all complicit' and that is wrong. fuck your collective guilt. put blame where it is due. the people are powerless here and have fuckall to do with policy...

>>730631804
>implying the people in power don't govern with the consent of the governed.

>>730631207
>the people as a whole have all the influence.
NO THEY DON'T

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>>730629284
The CIA had Mexican presidents on their payroll since the 1950s. The relationship became much tighter with Salinas de Gortari in the 1990s. Nowadays it's even sexual, since they're both closet faggots.

>>730631870
see
>>730631861

>>730631861
are you fucking serious? they give absolutely zero shits about the consent of the governed. if you think otherwise, you are totally delusional.

>>730631996
>they give absolutely zero shits about the consent of the governed.
Oh I see, you don't bother to vote. Good job.

>>730631930
read the post. it delineates between overt and covert.

>>730629805
1500 undocumented gringos were returned from Tijuana to the US in one day of 2016. More than 400 of them had arrest warrants against them, so they went straight to jail.

>>730632073
>being this cuntarded
i'm done with your dumb ass. enjoy your last word, like the little bitch you are.

>>730630704
It's a trump-bot. No espika inglis.

>>730632164
>running away from the discussion
>feigning superiority when in reality you have nothing of substance to offer
>shitting all over the chessboard and calling it checkmate.

>>730623976
Literally none of this happens you're just some white faggot that probably doesn't known any brown/black people. If you think we don't pay for our school you are literally a brainwashed puppet. Funny thing is none of you people have valid sources for this claim

Borders seperate lower IQ ethnicities from superior ethnicities.

If Holland bordered Mexico or a middle Eastern country, their border would look much different, you stupid fucking idiot.

>>730631044
We are all the sum of our governors. Yet another reason why we must take responsibility for the scum that rules us. Revolution, now!

>>730631804
There's no shame in admitting we fucked up, the shame would be in doubling down on the fuckup instead of realizing, admitting and correcting the mistake.

>>730619793

Hurr durr look how smart we are.

>>730617224
Fuck me. I read The Metamorphosis and interpreted it metaphorically a while ago. Almost forgot how fucking weird it all was.

>>730617187
this

op is probably 12 years old and has no idea how the world works.

>>730632438
>We are all the sum of our governors
no, we aren't, especially when our 'governors' are just the errand boys for corporations. sounds nice and catchy though, too bad the u.s. isn't a democracy and hasn't truly ever been ruled 'by the people' at all. good luck with your revolution, though.

>>730631804
>not only is this collective guilt trip you try and lay on people with your self righteous moral high ground 'we are all complicit' insulting, it's bullshit
Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite.
–Joseph de Maistre
In other words, YES YOU ARE COMPLICIT. The taxes you pay create outrages. If you cannot stop your governors from behaving outrageously, then you should at least stop giving them money.

>>730632924
>too bad the u.s. isn't a democracy and hasn't truly ever been ruled 'by the people' at all.
We are not a direct democracy but we are a republic of elected leaders. Those leaders ultimately answer to us.

>>730632744
and here's another 'collective guilt' faggot... smh...

>>730632079
It offers only a guarantee without a reliable guarantor. Sieg, heil!