Can we justify why we nuked Japan near the end of WWII?

>>730355961
Yeah. They started it, so fuck them!

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>>730355961
They wouldn't surrender and invading japan would have resulted in 100s of thousands of allied lives lost. Also the war wouldve continued for at least a few more years. Americas focus on Japan would give the Nazis better odds on the western front against the rest of europe.

hope that helps lad

>>730355961
Nah killing innocent people really isn't cool imo and now the world is full of nukes. Sucks man

>>730355961
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were valid military targets, and a land invasion would have caused innumerably more casualties on both sides and in the European theatre.

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>>730355961
Yeah, blowing shit up is really cool. Makes us feel like real men even if we only have three-inch dicks.

>>730355961
See these:
>>730356679
>>730356810
Also, they were already literally killing themselves just ramming planes into people, not like they valued life all that much anyways.

>>730355961
>Can we justify why we nuked Japan near the end of WWII?

No. Japan was ready to surrender. They wanted the Emperor left alone. The US wanted to see what its new toy could do. And so we decimated two Japanese cities. Inexcusable.

>>730355961
Not really but it was pretty dope

>>730355961
It was more than fair and better than they deserved considering their widespread use of biological weapons on the Chinese.

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>>730357093
Which click bait feminist shithole did you drag this fake news from. Lurk /pol/ more you fucking retard. Who posts this shit to /b/

>>730357093
But if we didnt drop the fitst nuke (the Little Boy) then would have they even try to surrender?

>>730357093
Are you ridiculous
They insulted us everytime we offered a chance for them to surrender
They had every opportunity to surrender and they never did. Even when we told them we had the bomb, they still ignored us.

>>730357245
Killing civilians is a war crime. Especially with WMDs.

>>730355961
If you do a quick google you'll learn that we were at war with them at the time

>>730357259
I lurk /pol/ and would never advise anyone to go there. It's a an echo chamber for retarded right wingers and their "alternative facts".

>>730355961
Yes. We won. Lesson: Don't fuck with us.

>>730355961
field test.
projection of force.

I'll just drop this here
Https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHg0-fph1Vg

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>>730355961
War doesn't need justification because sovereign states are in the state of nature.

Anything is valid

>>730356676
They didn't though. Americans started the war by creating a embargo on Japan

>>730357440
I think is was around 1944 when Peral Harbor occurd and thats when America joined th war

>>730356679
they had surrendered, it got 'stalled' in the chain of command.

The recent and ongoing NATO use of Depleted Uranium munitions has far worse and much longer lingering effects than the two bombs dropped on Japan. USA was justified in comparison to NATO's current widespread WMD use.

>>730357542
Actualy, the jews won.

Japan had very little interest on America

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>>730357524
Translation: it's an echo chamber that disagrees with my own echo chambers so it should be avoided or ignored.

It must be a strange feeling to be thoroughly convinced that you are correct and that every opposing viewpoint, however elegantly or inelegantly expressed, is simply incorrect. I imagine this is what being religious feels like too.

>>730355961

They had to be taught a lesson after Pearl Harbour.

We tried stopping anime...it didnt work

>>730357708
/Pol/ is different though.

People with different opinions will be either insulted or ignored. Especially after the retards from the_donald immigrated there

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>>730357708
Dude you use right wing blogs as your sources and call the main stream media liars because you think they're in some kind of jewish conspiracy with le evil government. That's pretty retarded.

>>730357093
> Inexcusable

funny. your very way of and quality of life is a result of this display of force for world dominance. hypocrite.

>>730357370
Those were the first WMDs ever used on that scale, anon.

The laws weren't fully in effect then.

But they were after.

>>730357842
The jewish conspiration is one of the few things the /pol/tards had it right.

The amount of jews in the US government is annormal

>>730357587
Which was the response to their invading China. So again, they started it. Fuck them!

>>730356751
Life is all one big game. And killing people is required for our world to excel. Without war our world would be much less technologically advanced and just plain boring. People like you are the ones who don't see the big picture, and are a general nuisance to our worlds improvement.

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Well for starters we probably wouldn't have nearly as many good TV shows

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>>730357837
LOOOOOL SHILL HARDER.

Take ur PSYOPS somewhere else noone is listening to you cuckboi

>>730357524
You sound like you're fresh off the boat from tumblr or something

>>730355961
The reasons for bombing Japan were largely pragmatic, so in a sense yeah. Had we gone ahead with a direct invasion, both sides would have suffered major loss of life, totaling far more than those who died as a result of the bombing.

Was it a good moment in human history? I wouldn't say so.

Was it the right decision in the long-run? I'd say so, as the lesser of the two evils.

>>730357873
>your very way of and quality of life is a result of this display of force for world dominance
It's not. In two centuries the US never had a legit reason to start a war.

Most of the times they spent far more money than received.

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>>730357998
>being this delusional

>>730357970
US is not China.

>>730358023
That was exactly what I was talking about

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>>730358023
>/pol/tards thinks they're the majority

I also liked how you used three of your stupid meme words in such a short post.

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>>730357942
>ever used on that scale

>>730357873

My way of life does? Really? I don't see it that way. Something that affected my way of life in the US was supporting Israel in 1973 and gas prices rising as a big FUCK YOU from OPEC. No one makes that connection, however. The US economy tanked after that. THANKS, ISRAEL!

>>730355961
Yes it was to show the russians who the boss was. Also we needed to have a usa frendly japan which would not have happened if the commies took over japan

>>730358045
>ad hominem

Typical /pol/tard behaviour.

>>730358183
He's probably one of these newfags on /pol/(that become the majority a few months ago).

They're the only ones dumb enough to accuse someone of being a shill

>>730358187

Hideous. Don't forget the Tokyo firebombings.

>>730357093
They wanted to dictate the peace and keep what land they had taken. ALSO
kys

>>730357998
War is fine but nuking innocent people isn't. Theres a huge difference.

Joke is on us, Japan rebuilt these two cities into beautiful prosperous places, and the US is left with cities like Cleveland and Detroit.

>>730358123
You do something I don't like and fail to change it when asked then I'm not obligated to sell you a damn thing. Same as between US and Japan at the time.

But of course you know all this and are just trolling.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHg0-fph1Vg

>don't mess with mah freedoom hurr durr

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>>730355961
to end what could have been the beginning of a better timeline. deny it as much as you like you know it would have been better if you'd allied with the nazis.

>>730358090
IT IS

> In two centuries the US never had a legit reason to start a war

economics/slavery?

>they spent far more money than received

uhh,no. not in the long run, not even close.

all U.S. wars have been over money, how do you think they ended up where they did in the second half of the 1900s?

>>730355961
http://www.strawpoll.me/12817121/r

>>730358242
You see the irony in your post right?

>>730358187
>>730358295
They started it. Fuck 'em

>>730355961
First off we didn't "nuke" anyone. We dropped an atomic bomb on them. And yes, it was justified because the death toll of a full scale invasion of Japan by the Americans would have been astronomical for both sides. The Japanese had already shown that they would fight to the death and would never surrender. On Okinawa they trained women and children to use bamboo spears to attack and kill American GIs. The fighting was brutal.

The only thing that could and did snap them out of their Imperial Japanese bullshit was the unleashing of the power of the sun upon them. Ironic because of the lineage of the Emperor.

Also, the Japanese are not victims. They like to pretend that they are and western liberals love to feed into that nonsense. The Imperial Japanese Army murdered over 30 million civilians in China. On top of that, they performed medical experiments which go far beyond those performed by the Nazis. Look into Medical Unit 731. Look into the Rape of Nanking.

The Japanese weren't innocent by any stretch of the imagination. They even published tales of their wartime atrocities in their newspapers back home where people were in full support thanks to their Imperial Shinto indoctrination.

>>730358438
Embargos were(and still are) considered a declaration of war

>>730357703
bullshit
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>>730355961
Unit 731
Nanking
They were sick. It stopped the war.

>>730358398
Killing innocents is a great thing actually. It's called a power play. If someone kills 1million people for example in a matter of seconds. That nation must give in or face a full rebellion by their people. That's just how our current social structure works generally speaking.

>>730358502
never said they didnt deserve it--war isn't about that. just responding to the previous anons post about 'scale' of previous attacks...thanks for your two cents though, maybe you should read the thread...

>>730358516
Don't forget about the cannibalism. Google Yoshio Tachibana

>>730358585
that's binary code

>>730358398

>"war is fine"

We'll see if you are still saying that when they kick down your door and shoot you in the face. Or when they draft you to go get blown up in some shithole mudslime country. Or when someone gets fed up enough to start throwing nukes at the west and you end up as nothing but a charred spot against a wall..

War is most certainly not fucking fine. There are far better methods of population control. You have simply fallen for the agenda at hand, hook line and sinker. A direct result of war-mongering propaganda.

>>730358474
>uhh,no. not in the long run, not even close.
How not? US is in debt and will probably increase it even more to sustain the war on Syria(which is to give the Golan heights to Israel)
>all U.S. wars have been over money, how do you think they ended up where they did in the second half of the 1900s?
But not wars for money that benefited americans, only the ones that benefited a few (((corporations).

US ended as a superpower mostly because they gave loans to the nations in War during the war, and to reconstruct them afterwards.

>>730358398
? this is contradictory to a retarded degree. dead is dead. civilians die in war.

>>730358557
They are not. Embargoes are the same as economic sanctions, just from a time that people had some education and understood what the word meant.

Blockade is an act of war and is not the same as an embargo

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Hiroshima vs. Cleveland.... which side really won

>>730358862
USA was part of the League of Nations at time, and they considered embargoes as a act of war

>Americans thought that a land invasion would be a slow meatgrinder
>the Soviets just steamrolled the Japanese army at Khalkhin Gol, so the US feared that at least a part of Japan would come under Soviet influence if they wouldn't surrender quickly
>demonstrating the nukes helped keep the Soviets in check right after the war
And 2 nukes were necessary, the Japanese would not go down easily. Even when the Emperor proclaimed their surrender, some of the officers almost managed to prevent him from doing so and continuing the war.

>>730358497
That kind of self reflection is too much for the average libtard

>>730358726
I'm all for population control on a large scale, but war is not about that. War is about flexing a nations greatness, kick starting economies, making scientific strides, and beating others into submission. War is required in this world. People are just forgotten pawns In a large scale strategy game called life.

>>730358661
Spew all the bullshit you want. You tipped your hand with that filename, kiddo.

>>730358969
>USA was part of the League of Nations at time,
No it wasn't. Blatant lie. We're done here.

>>730358760
you need to study history (independently) and look at the big picture, if your lack of education will allow you to make the connections necessary to do so.

> US is in debt

this equals more war historically, look at what's happening now, they'll either end up on top or again end up destroyed.


>not wars for money that benefited americans, only the ones that benefited a few (((corporations)

yeah and no one has ever benefited from the goods and services of corporations (see: your ENTIRE way of life)

>ended as a superpower mostly because they gave loans to the nations...

if you think anything as complex as this can be explained as easily as this, that explains a lot about your cognitive dissonance/brainwashed state...

it is beyond regrettable that modern schools are 'teaching' people what to think instead of how to think.

America was basically sick of losing troops and so targeted two major Japanese cities (Hiroshima and Kokura, although Kokura was spared due to the weather and Nagasaki was targeted as a plan B) and bombed them with the Fat man and Little boy bombs.

>>730359166
>being this retarded

>>730359111
Life is what we make it. I'm not a cynic. I eat cynics like you for breakfast. I haven't had my morning coffee yet though, so I think I'll let this one go.

But for what its worth, you are just spouting more propaganda. All of those things can be accomplished in other ways besides military excursions. The worldview you espouse is an archaic one full of fault and as such needs to be eradicated to make way for a world we might actually want to live in. That or die trying.

>>730357259

lmfao i've missed this meme

>>730355961

Justifying it is an opinion. Japan shoulda stayed away from germany though. When we dropped the bomb it was speculated it would ignite our atmosphere and destroy way more. Were so fucking crazy we did it anyways

>>730358502
Germany only started bombing civilian centers after Britain did it to them. So in true sense the Britain started first and the Germans never firebombed entire cities to the ground four times in two days, also all cities the Germans attacked held some strategic significance. Dresden had nothing except wounded people that threw a party.

The whole "America didn't want to lose more troops" thing is propaganda.

Japan was ready to surrender before they were nuked, so long as they could keep their emperor. America demanded unconditional surrender, nuked them, and then allowed them to keep their emperor. He was no longer the head of state, but it was a compromise between the surrender that Japan wanted and the Surrender that America wanted that America could easily have tried to make beforehand.

The U.S. nuked Japan so that the Soviet Union would see the power of their new weapon.

>>730359557
> I think I'll let this one go
proceeds to write next paragraph
>spouting more propaganda
followed by
>needs to be eradicated...That or die trying.
>or die trying
so, let me get this straight? you want to end all wars and the very idea of them, with war?

>>730357665
there's a video of historian David Irving explaining this and explaining further why they went ahead with it. basically they needed a live test to see what it was capable of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of0m7yNYs80
>ignore the video annotation pop-ups that claim nukes can't real

>>730359643
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both valid military targets, containing things such as, ports, shipyards and dry docks for ships, military barracks, ammunition depots, factories manufacturing war materials, training bases and communication hubs.

>>730359982
Whoops didn't mean to quote that guy.

>>730355961
they were kamikaze
they joined the Nazis
They needed to be brought to heel
it was for peace.

>>730355961
>Also the war wouldve continued for at least a few more years. Americas focus on Japan would give the Nazis better odds on the western front against the rest of europe.

Hitler committed suicide on the 30th of April 1945.
The Soviets captured Berlin on the 2nd of May 1945.
Nazi Germany surrendered unconditionally on the 8th of May 1945.
The United States dropped atomic bombs on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the 6th and 9th of August 1945 respectively.

>>730359977
no shit, why are you telling me (this is also my post>>730357549). you should be telling all these dummies that are saying they would never have surrendered.

>>730360104
>REEEEE nazi's were ebil!!!!!!11111!!!11!!1
learn to history, cunt

Simple
Had nukes
Wanted to use nukes
Used nukes

no you cant lul

>>730360122
i linked that post becuase it was relevant, further expanding and giving supporting evidence of what you were saying

>>730358502
This. You don't want casualties, don't fucking invade half of Europe

>>730359965
Not everyone thinks the only way to solve a problem is violence as you seem to believe.

>>730357362
This is true - we had to drop the 2nd bomb on Nagasaki to prove the 1st one wasn't the only one we had. Japs were hardcore motherfuckers.

>>730360121
>dropped the bomb

nigger, get your head out of CNN's ass...

they tried to assassinate Buddha and the force field that protected him destroyed everything in that region... they won't teach you that in school, just to hide under your desk

>>730360301
Dude the people of Germany escaped to Dresden to escape the war, they where confident that the allies would win. So they didn't want to fight. Its like an entire city that wants to surrender and you nuke it because you are Winston Churchill who always hated Germans and even called for the extermination of Germans multiple times.Also without Hitler war would have come. Europe was a brewing pot

>>730357093
>>730357665
If this was true we wouldn't have dropped 2 bombs. They were dropped 3 days apart. The first would have been enough to expedite it

This wasn't even the worst bombing that we did on them. The fire bombing of many Japanese cities killed millions with the fire bombing of Tokyo killing an estimated 100 000 people

ppl forget that we killed way more wimmin and chidren with regular bombs. and if we didnt nook the - we would have killed millions more.

>>730360301
Heaven forbit that Germany reclaim territory that was unjustly taken from them at the end of WWI, when they were forced to pay the total cost for all sides of a war they did not start.

>>730360711
>we

implying you were one of the choice makers

>>730360385
so what exactly does it mean when anon says "...or die trying."
Also, i didnt post this>>730359111, i was just pointing out the absurdity and contradiction of the 'i eat cynics for breakfast' (>>730359557)
anon who responded to it, so you've really no basis for saying that I believe the only way to solve a problem is violence.
You are right, not everyone thinks that, same as not everyone is living in acceptance of reality and human nature and history.

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Nuke em again.

>>730360755
So Paris was originally part of Germany before ww1?

>>730356810
The European theatre was literally over. Nazi Germany had given its unconditional surrender to the allies 3 months before the atomic bombs were dropped.

>>730360853
Germany wasn't trying to annex France.

>>730355961
t; it's the Jews

>>730360853
no, but hitler knew all the fags n niggers that will hang out there in 2017...

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>>730358187

>>730360915
Correct. It was the Jews trying to annex BOTH.
t they succeeded.

>>730356679

That guy over there wouldn't surrender so we nuked your entire city, friends, and relatives. Oh yeah and fuck that one kid in the library too, and those other people there, yeah fuck them too.

>>730355961
Well... we had to hid Godzilla with something.

>>730360594
for fucks sake... you are really uninformed. you should research a topic before you post. see>>730359977
>>730357549
or just common knowledge (it used to be at any rate), really...

Only good gook ..... is a dead (or raped) one.

>>730360853
no dumbass Danzig was

>>730360853
>uneducated in the subject matter of ww2

>>730361027
Yes I'm uninformed. It takes more then 3 days say we surrender....

>>730361222
It was sarcasm you fucking loaf

>>730360945
nice wikipedia article

>>730361278
suuuuure it was

>Hitler meet Buddha
>Hitler promote Buddhism
>Jews don't like it because of him doing good
>Jews get offended by symbol of Buddhism
>Try to assassinate Buddha
>100 Navy Seals Dead
>Jews make up story that USnA dropped a "bomb"

>>730356679
>Just learned this in history class, at age 13.
>Thinks it is the truth, thinks it makes him look knowledgable.

>>730355961
This is all fake news. The US never dropped a nuke. It was Hitler to get back at the Japanese for fucking up so bad for not reinforcing the Germans and losing the war. The US took the credit to scare the Japanese into surrendering

>>730361234
what you think global communcation technology (let alone in a country that was ashes and rubble) is the same as it is today?!??!! and again, research the topic and you'll find out why there was a communication break down (the ethos of the japanese general that didn't want to surrender despite what the emperor had decided).

>>730360594
It is true. The american generals at the time even stated it.

The bombs were a demonstration for the Russians - the second being "to show Russia that the first was not a fluke".
More or less a direct quote.

>>730361605
>>730361579
Not official until the white flag flies. You can't say we'll I was thinking about it but I'm too fat to get up and do it

>>730361605
Why can't we just be friends with Ivan? We could've kicked everyone else's asses and be colonizing Mars by now.

>>730361472
Truths

>>730360945
Actually, only 2 people were killed in Dresden - and both of them were SS death camp guards that had tortured jews for years and experimented on them too - my grandmother died there after she escaped, and told me all about it.

Even the pilots, the generals and the politicians at the time were disgusted about Dresden.
The town had a population of 180k, and at the time was being used as a refugee and medical site with hundreds of thousands more people there.
Believe the jews of wikikepedia though.

>>730356679
Germany surrendered before the bombs were dropped though. Their odds of victory were non-existent because they already lost

>>730361436
mate i learnt it when i was 15 OK? Why would i want to look knowledgeable while being anonymous. What would i gain from that. You need to settle down bud, your autism is showing.

i love it when they say ..they were ready to surrender.soldiers and civilians would commit suicide before surrender. the last soldier Hiroo Onoda finally surrendered in 1974 because he wouldnt leave his post without orders

>>730355961
>>730357093

from what i can remember from a pretty interesting documentary i've seen in history class, as you say, japan actually was about to surrender, it was known to the US government, and the main reason for US to drop the bombs, besides trying them, was really to impress USSR with a military power and determination demonstration.

eurofag here, maybe we don't have the same history classes :)

>>730361907
America are the bad guys.
It is as simple as that.
That americans don't realise or accept or admit this, is another matter.

America - bullying smaller countries for 200 years. Even did it to your own South, and demonised them afterwards so they aren't even allowed to be remembered.

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>>730361977
>>730360121
yeah mb lads had the timeline backwards in my head

>>730362066
pal what you learned is ficticious OK? Why would you want to repeat some nonsense while being a faggot. What would you gain from that. You need to lurk more and stay quiet friend, you're aspergers is showing.

To study the effects of the nuclear option on a human population, either immediate or long-lasting. Also we have anime now.

>>730360819
"or die trying" means that I would give my life to create an ideal world if it came down to that. And in the end, if that vision goes un-realized, I will have died trying. See?

I said the thing about solving problems with violence because it was automatically assumed 'or die trying' meant some kind of violent act. That being said, it would be alot easier if some kinds of people would just... die.

And you are right. I reject human nature and history. Only by doing that can we clear the slate and bring about the paradigm shift we so desperately need. Some things are self-fulfilling, and human nature and history are some of the most self-fulfilling things there are. None of this is real anyways, insomuch as you are willing to make it and I can't for the life of me see why some people would make that negative.

>>730357354
The did try and surrender, as early as June. We wouldn't guarantee the safety of the Emperor and that's what stopped the top military brass who ran the government from agreeing to surrender.

Japan didn't even surrender due to the bombs they were more afraid of the Russians and didn't want their country completely decimated. Buy 1945 they were running out of most materials and by July 1945 had almost nothing left to wage war with. No oil, barely any metal, pulverized manufacturing, severe gunpowder shortage. Likely even if we had not dropped the bombs the Japanese would have surrendered in October 1945 before the Ketsu Go plan. Facing a double invasion of the Soviets and Americans was too much and the Japanese thought it would be a better idea to surrender to the Americans than face what the Soviets had done in eastern Europe but to them.

The bombs were more of a warning to the Soviets, which they didn't heed anyway. The real reasons for Japan's surrender in August 1945 was the threat of mainland Soviet invasion, and the complete inability to wage war.

P.S. I'm not the poster you're responding to

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>>730362290
>you're aspergers is showing
>you are aspergers is showing
at least I can use your and you're properly
>faggot
? righto mate

>>730362475
NO THEY DROPPED THE BOMBS BECAUSE THE JAPANSESE ATKED PARL HERBUR AND KILLED OUR BOYS FOR NO REASON WHEN WE DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO THEM EVER

>>730355961
No, we cannot. A nuclear weapon brings more indiscriminate suffering and devastation to civilians than any other weapon. There can never be any justification for it. Nuclear armed countries need to be more willing to sacrifice their military personnel before they think about slaughtering and torturing the women and children of their enemies.

>>730362533
>you are aspergers
>are
It should be "you have aspergers" you fucking idiot.

>>730362163
american here. i realize and accept it and admit it.

it funny when to see all these idiots acting like this is untrue and they are the morally righteous (war is terrible, this is inexcusable, etc) when they've enjoyed the security and quality of their entire lives because of it.

this being said, it is a position of compromise for those that do realize it, because even if they found it disagreeable or wanted to do something to change it, they would be completely powerless, so maybe you shouldn't be so quick to generalize.

americans are nearly completely controlled and oppressed with programming from birth, what's worse is the part that the false idea of 'freedom' plays in this indoctrination.

>>730362629
no, USA actually sank their own ship to enter the war... the ways of faggots

>>730355961
there's no excuse

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>>730361305
This better for you? My point is it likely wasnt half a million people killed

>>730355961
Justification was we blew off some badass bombs dude!

>>730362629
>Never did anything to them
>Embargoed them
>Cut off their oil supply
Your autism is showing

>>730362722
The Monroe Indoctrination, named after JFK's girlfriend.

>>730362882
>you're autism
Fixed that for you, kid.

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>>730362718
>fucking idiot
projecting
You're not very smart are you?
>It should be "you have aspergers"
Nah bud that would be you've and it wouldn't make sense to use that contraction in the sentence.
Try harder man

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>>730355961
Justification?
you some kind of faggot?

>>730355961
cuz we the best and had to show everybody
/thread

>>730355961
Talk shit get hit, basically.

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>>730362338
so, again, you want to stop all wars and the very concept of them WITH WAR!!!
> it was automatically assumed 'or die trying' meant some kind of violent act
what, you are going to die of old age or in your sleep trying?
> I reject human nature and history...None of this is real
i rest my case.

>go to Okinawa
>'murican army still sticks around
>without any real permission
ayyy!

>>730363052
Screenshotted a website because you don't know how to copy and paste.
Is this your first day on the web, kid.

Nice to see you admit you're aspergers though, mate.

>>730363248
Wait, he is the aspergers?

>>730363052
>>730363143
>>730363128
samefag

>>730355961
>aesthetic history of japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o

>>730362866
so let's turn this and use your sentence, except substitute 'six million' for 'half a million'. but that would be different, wouldn't it?

Jews also invented the "dumb blonde" thing to fuck with the Nordic Master Race idea

>>730363322
Yep. We've finally found the source.

>>730355961
Can you justify taking another living beings life in any circumstance?

The answer is a solid no, but who cares? Justice is a fallacy.

>>730363369
i hate fucking jews... i wish israel will go up in flames with every bank they own around the world...

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>>730363248
i must be getting baited. Well memed friendo
>>730363322
this guy gets it
>>730363325
nah

>>730363143
Different person

> what, you are going to die of old age or in your sleep trying?
Im gonna fuck this industrial grinder or die trying.
No violence involved.

>>730363143
HearingOnlyWhatYouWantToHear.svg

>>730363369
Yeah, kike jealousy. Note how it is always the jew tv series and films that have kikes as the heros and blondes as idiots.

Despite israel having a national IQ lower than the surrounding arabic countries, being stereotypically feeble and disease ridden, and cowardly to the very core.

>>730362866
+/- a hundred thousand lives. just a minor disparity.
again nice source.

>>730363539
*Citation needed

>>730363468
He did it again. Did you're mother set up a screenshot programme for you.
Is it part of the accessibility suite.

>>730361132
>raped gook
hapas are sexy af

>>730363603
Search for national IQ figures, if your mentally capacity allows.

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>>730363644
here's your (you)

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>>730363325
riiiiight.
actually your totally wrong, but if it makes you feel any better about your retardation, then whatever floats your boat.

>>730363773
>can't be samefag because inspect element doesn't exist

>>730358726
I didn't say i like war or agree with it but its not going anywhere. If we get nuked then it'll suck bad, civilians shouldn't be involved like I said. Also,
>2nd amendment
>already been there done that and fucked my body up and can't be drafted

>>730363452
Stop watching television and films. Don't read newspapers or listen to the radio.
It is amazingly peaceful when you aren't assaulted by jew lies every hours of the day.

Then just work hard and be successful - and never ever trust a kike.

>>730363515
if you do fuck an industrial grinder, be sure and film it, for rekt threads or something.

>>730363533
>being this retarded
>grasping at straws
>trying this hard

>>730363773
Nice hacking/photoshopping try.
But you are dealing with professionals here.

>>730363452
Whats so bad about it? If you turn them around their nose wont hit you anymore.

>>730363933
definitely.
professional retards.

>>730364020
professional retards or retarded professionals?

The only alternative would have been a massive amphibious landing that would have likely had 10 times the casualties

>>730364064
now that would make for an interesting venn diagram?

>>730358516
Yeah but we gave them immunity for 731

>>730355961
Why? Can you un-nuke them?

If the answer is no then you are wasting valuable minutes you have left in your life.

>>730364085
There was another option.
Detonate the first nuke on new york and the second on washington d.c.

World peace.

>>730363739
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Interesting, the first Middle Eastern country is Israel while all the Muslim countries bring up the bottom of the list

>>730359746
Different bomb scrub

>>730364336
>https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
Website host pings to israel.
What a (((coincidence))).

>>730364300
>valuable minutes
doubtful

>>730364328
fucking retarded, even for shitposting

It was more like a proof that the USA was not to mess with (still fuck them)

>>730355961
The

>>730358516
A full scale invasion would not have had astronomical casualties on both sides, at most the US CASUALTIES would've been upwards of 75,000 which means about 10-15,000 deaths

>>730364395
Lol, the website is French run and I'm in the US. Nice try degenerate

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>>730364156
Does this work?

>>730364433
Yet, it is the truth.
Calm down, with luck it will happen in your lifetime.

The only thing better, would have been if America had waited until they had a third bomb, and detonated it on Chicago at the same time.

>>730357362
The U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey group, assigned by President Truman to study the air attacks on Japan, produced a report in July of 1946 that concluded:
"Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945 and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated."

General (and later president) Dwight Eisenhower – then Supreme Commander of all Allied Forces, and the officer who created most of America’s WWII military plans for Europe and Japan – said:
"The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing."

>>730357942
I'll take "Mustard Gas in WWI" for two hundred, please, Alex.

for all the innocent people USA and UK killed during WW1 and 2 , ISIS and N Korea will level the scales..

>>730364557
>admitted jew
How's the usury going, kikestein.

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>>730364567
gj man but you're aspergers is showing

Because the cost in human lives fighting to invade the Japanese homeland and subdue the military/industrial complex would have been far greater.

Did you know the U.S. tried repeatedly to WARN Japanese civilians? That's rarely mentioned.
http://www.atomicheritage.org/key-documents/warning-leaflets

>>730357587
>need justification
Perhaps, but that doesn't mean we don't try to justify it to satisfy our own conscience. Even if society between nations doesn't actually exist, we still pretend it does.

>embargo
Sovereign nations aren't required to trade with other nations. Refusal to trade is a pretty poor justification for war. Yeah, it goes back to your point of not needing justification. But god help you if you lose an unjustified war. Japan was fucking LUCKY to get nuked. They could've ended up like Germany. They deserved much worse than they got, and that's saying something.

>>730357585
Fucking gay.

>>730364671
>ISIS and N Korea
Funny, both creations of the US.
It seems most weapons designed to kill innocent people are American-made.

>>730364688
>Calls anyone doesn't like a Jew
>Fails basic comprehension
>Can't even figure out how to find the legal notice on a website

How's the weather in Equatorial Guinea this time of year?

>>730364744
>your
Fixed it for you, gypsy.

>>730355961
Of course not.

>>730361010
Wasn't the original Godzilla a sea creature mutated by the atomic bomb?

>>730357665
They hadn't surrendered. They were trying to dictate the terms of surrender. (The Japanese army gets to disarm itself, no occupation force, and they wanted to conduct their own war crime trials.) Cheeky fuckers, that's not how surrendering works.

>>730364848
i think anon was responding in similar fashion to file name of previous post, dummy.

>>730365026
the decision had been made/orders had been issued

>>730365033
>>730364848

read through the thread

>>730358123
So you're saying we should have kept selling them iron and oil so they could continue the slaughter in China?

>>730364783
Hey Brainiac, you completely misread what he wrote - and have absolutely no clue about history.
The embargo placed on Japan by the US, was preventing Japan from trading with any other country.

What would the US say if Russia surrounded the country with warships and told them they couldn't trade with anyone. Not to mention the other conditions.

Typical american fucking subhuman retard.

As for "sovereign nations aren't required to trade with other nations".
Did you ever read how america introduced itself to Japan in the first place?
By sending a fleet of warships to threaten Japan and force them to open their ports and force them to trade with america.

How will you manage to backtrack now.
America was LUCKY that only the twin towers were demolished by their own government which is entirely made up of jews. They should have demolished the entire city and set it on fire.

>>730365033
>>730365224
samefagging this hard to cover a grammar error instead of just admitting it like a man.

>>730365224
you're autism isn't showing mate

>>730357688
uhhhhh

ask the old dudes running the show, us as civvies didnt do shit, nor were we even alive during it

>tfw those old dudes are all dead so we cant ask them

>>730363539
blondes are basically savage neanderthaals & were the last to get civilized along with african niggers

>>730364832
>thinks a legal notice is any proof of the server location
First day on the web.

Still don't deny you're a jew. Typical tricks.

>>730355961
it was for the lulz

>>730365480
Explains why all the major accomplishments of civilisation were by blonde haired, blue eyed demi-gods.

Meanwhile, a bunch of sandniggers rolled around in the desert shitting their nappies.
Anyone with dark hair is directly related to those very same african niggers.

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>>730365380
ffs, read the fucking thread retard
>>730365413
yours is

>>730362163
This is fucking retarded. America wasn't the country mass executing, torturing, and raping the Chinese then dragging their heels when the opportunity to surrender was available.

The Japanest did not at all accept the terms of surrender which is not how that fucking works. They were given the option of surrender or get the bomb, not only did they still not comply with that ultimatum, they still did not unconditionally surrender after the first fucking bomb.

The only ones at fault for the devastation of those cities are the leaders of Japan.

because "war" thats why

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>>730365676
>not getting the meme
:(

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>>730357542

lmao so how did you guys get wrecked in Vietnam by a bunch of fucking uneducated stupid jungle people? at least us Canadians never lost a war, you guys got decimated in Nam and we were smart enough to not join in. nevermind the fact we housed Yankees that didnt want to go to Vietnam under conscription

>>730365651
The wright brothers had black hair.
Albert Einstein had black hair before it turned white.

>>730365887
>canadians never lost a war

have you ever even been at war?

and if it 5 vs 1, who wins?

faggots

>>730365742
>Japan, Japaner, The Japanest!!
America was the country on the other side of the world, firebombing cities, killing hundreds of thousands in a night, nuking, killing hundreds of thousands in an instant, butchering their way through the other asian countries with the excuse that they were 'fighting the japs'.

America was also the one supplying weapons to Germany, Russia and England for the first 3-4 years of the war.
Weapons to all sides, prolong the war, maximum deaths. Tens of millions killed.

See Iran vs Iraq in the 1980s.
Install puppet government, supply both sides with weapons, prolong the war.

America is a war profiteer - that's all.

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>>730366087

we burned down your first Whitehouse and conquered Vimy Ridge, without going further those 2 are accomplishments alone. its hilarious whenever i bring up Vietnam how every American beats around the bush and wont admit they lost a war to a bunch of stupid jungle people. they just bring it up to not being able to use napalm anymore or loss of civilian morale for the war thats it

>>730365925
The Wright brothers were revealed to have stolen the designs, and been 2-3 years late to the party.
They bribed the smithsonian to keep a permanent exhibit claiming them the first to fly.
It's a myth.

As for einstein, look into the collection of scientists he stole from and claimed the glory of.
Then again, thievery is inherent in the nigger haired people.

>>730365879
>>730365676
Nice samefag distraction technique, but I've seen it before.

>>730366244
Hitler had black hair.

>>730365887
the U.S. didn't get 'rekt' or 'decimated' at all. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more v.c/nva got killed than us troops. way more. they left because of political issues/protests. and if you look at how westernized they vietnamese economy/business sector is now, did they really lose?

>>730366339
:(

>>730366424
Nope.
Another falsehood. You really believe everything you heard in school, don't you.
I suppose the naivety is charming.

This is bait, but I'll bite. Most of this has already been said in this thread, but here I go.
>Pearl Harbor attack
>BB 39 Arizona
>Unit 731
>Nanking and the entire campaign in China
>Warned both cities that they would be bombed, no one listened.
>Horrible treatment of allied POWs in Japanese camps
>Korean Sex slaves
>Hirohito's ugly fucking face
>Not surrendering every time we gave them a chance
>Killing allied troops who surrendered
I'll never apologize for Hiroshima or Nagasaki. I can't after visiting the final resting place of Arizona.

>>730366215
> they lost a war to a bunch of stupid jungle people
patently false. they lost to their own politicians and civilians

>>730366438
More chinese in america than americans in china, baby.
America lost the war against communism. Every city in america has a china town. Never heard of an american town in china.

>>730366600
are you really that retarded?

>>730366542
Arizona is a shithole, true. But you can't blame that on the nips.

>>730365324
>Embargoes are similar to economic sanctions and are generally considered legal barriers to trade, not to be confused with blockades, which are often considered to be acts of war.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embargo

You're confusing an embargo with a blockade. Probably because you're a fucking moron.

>But while Roosevelt turned from sanctions toward measures of positive aid to Europe, in Asia his administration moved toward a more pointed use of embargoes against Japan. Japan relied heavily upon American oil and metals to supply its war effort in China. Any threat to stop those exports would have a significant impact on Japanese plans. The swing of public opinion and the revision of the Neutrality Act in 1939 allowed Roosevelt to take some action on behalf of China. So, in May 1939 the United States notified Japan that it was withdrawing from the 1911 Treaty of Commerce. According to terms of the treaty, in six months the United States would be free to limit or terminate exports to Japan. Roosevelt hoped this would give the Japanese pause, but Japan continued its war in China.

>When the British and Dutch joined the oil embargo, it cut off the vital Southeast Asian sources of raw materials as well.
>http://www.americanforeignrelations.com/E-N/Embargoes-and-Sanctions-World-war-ii.html

Do YOU read? They were getting oil from us. We're not required to sell them oil if we don't like what they're doing with it. Or if we simply don't like them. Or for any reason whatsoever. Call a lawyer if you don't like it. And if our friends the British, whom we had just pulled out of the fire, decide to ALSO embargo Japan, that's too fucking bad, but not our fault. They weren't being prevented from trading. It's just that nobody wanted to trade with them because they were being niggers.

>>730366215
i am not from murica..

and war is for faggots, real men lay their guns down, because only niggers and hill billies pack 9's and live a self centered hatred life

>>730366491
It wasn't blonde so by your logic hitler was part nigger. and if that's not enough japs and italians have black hair so hitler was a nigger sympathizer.

>>730355961
We didn't nuke them, we dropped two a-bombs on them. As bad as the bombings were an invasion of mainland Japan would have been much, much worse. Not just for Japan, but allied forces as well, plus it also ended the war before Stalin could mobilize and get involved in that front, which he was quite eager to do.

Also, they started the war with the US, as well as Australia, and Britain. They got off very fucking light for their atrocities and war crimes as well. To the point where they officially deny any wrong doing today. It's why the rest of East Asia hates them so much.

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>>730366666

>>730366675
Took you an hour and a half to look some irrelevant nonsense up on wikikepedia.

Still no mention of the americans twice forcing Japan to trade with them under threat of war.

>>730365492
Pinged the server, it came from the US. You're wrong again, what a shocker. Hope you don't gamble

>>730366738
So you admit that all dark haired people are niggers.

Glad that has been established, have a nice day.

>>730355961
Yes. Don't start shit with the USA & you won't get BTFO.

This has been covered a million times

>>730366924
6 million jews in the US.
You're one of them.
You've already been caught out lying twice.
"It's in france, it's in the US, lampshades!!"

>>730357688
Yeah they really did hitler tried warning us

>>730366989
Yeah. Syria should never have tried to invade the US of A.

>>730355961
I doubt we'll ever know the truth behind what the US government knew at the time, because even declassified documents could have been faked at the time while others destroyed, etc. So it's all posturing.

I don't really care what happened because it all worked out in the end. And now I watch their cartoons because I'm a weeb.

>>730357725
Yeah, it was a shit film. Thought the kikes made it though, not Japan.

>>730366977
are you saying the great fuhrer was a nigger and a nigger sympathizer? and are you admitting blondes are nigger tier?

kill yourself you liberal faggot.

>>730357688
This.

>>730366796
>war crimes


it called defending yourself..
Hitler did nothing wrong, and faggot jews will taste what karma is for what they have done with their freemason assfuck buddies...

murica sank their own ship to enter the war..
similar with 9/11 .. why was the jews so happy when the planes flew in the twin towers?
why were jews cheering in israel on 9/11?
because they knew it will be murica entering the east/ the great murica,. we will see how this fucking play out.. trump being pulled out and hanged like they did to ghadaffi and hussein...

god i hate faggots who think they gods...
get your heads out of your asses coz not even your fallen anunaki will help you devils..

>>730357703
"If you're reading this it means you're a faggot and you just wasted your time translating this."

>>730367279
You were born with subhuman hair, showing your subhuman traits to the world.
I know it must be difficult for you - but don't bleach your hair, better to live as an ape than to live a lie.

>>730366215
>british burn down white house
>200 years later leafs still claim they burned it down

>>730367317
This.
When the USJ is dust, the world will be at peace.

>>730366914
>pls respond
I have better things to do than monitor the thread for your responses.

>Still no mention of the americans twice forcing Japan to trade with them under threat of war.

Still no mention of the fact that I was right and you were wrong. An embargo is not a blockade. We did not blockade them or prevent trade with other countries. They refused to trade with Japan on their own.

Forcing Japan to trade? Oh, how horrible. That's almost as bad as having your capital city raped, pillaged, and burned to the ground, and its populace used as test subjects for chemical and biological weapons. Or having tens to hundreds of thousands of your women sexually enslaved for Japanese micropenis pleasure.

>>730357942
talking about the legality of genocide

>it was legal at the time, anon!

jesus fucking christ, it was always wrong to murder

also, the firebombs killed more than the nukes, remember that

>>730355961
IMO USA nuked Japans civil areas to show the destructive capabillities and dominance worldwide because they were aware of the SSSR power and had to show them the ace on the table. Also to stop the war with Japan nukes may have been the necesary evil because Japanese were so drunk on patriotism but the Japs would probably have surrendered if the 2 bombs were dropped on military bases too.

1. A threat to Russia
2. To end the war quickly. The war was basically over anyway and a full scale invasion would cost both time, american soldiers and money. Also 10-20 times more japs would probably have died if USA had invaded.
3. To make sure that America defeated Japan and not Russia. Had Russia invaded they would have stayed.
4. It was war and Japan was an enemy of USA

I feel that the controversy comes from the fact that the US bombed civilians. Children, women and other innocent people. But that is not the case at all. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both producers for the military. I would suspect that high percentage of the working population worked in production meant for the war. It was therefore a valid military target. These majority of those citizens where not innocent since they actively contributed to the japanese war effort.

Also how many families, women and children did the British kill during their relentless bombings on cities such as Hamburg, Stuttgart etc.?

>>730367631
suuuure it will, despite the continued existence of mohhamedans and zionist jews

>>730358502
somebody's going to say that about you, if there's anyone left after the nuclear holocaust to come

>>730356676
fpbp

>>730367079
Really? Where am I lying?

You've been proven lying several times. Making up IQ statistics, lying about were a server is, throwing around baseless accusations, pretending the whole world is out to get you.

>>730358516
trying to pretend that murder justifies more murder

go fucking murder yourself for the good of mankind faggot

i promise you, the murder of yourself will be justified

>>730367317
You fucking moron, he wasn't saying the US committed war crimes by nuking Japan, he was referring to what Japan did to China and Korea. Relations in Asia area strained to this day because Japan won't admit what they did in WW2. Compare this to Germany where it's a crime to deny the Holocaust.

>>730367808
Just contradicted yourself completely.
Again.

Typical kike.

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You got your animes you fagboys. What the fuck are you complaining?

>>730367977
Lucky sevens dubs is truth.

>>730358862
HAHAHAH trying so hard to pretend that sanctions aren't murder/war too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

WORTH IT, FAGGOTS

>>730358400
Cleveland and Detroit will become a superpower by 2050, mark my words

>>730358969
it's cool to strangle innocent people to death with sanctions as long as somebody says it's cool

>>730367427
Both your IQ and dick size are inferior to mine. That's why white women love BBC.
you mad whiteboi?

>>730359273
>implying whether a country is part of some bullshit organization matters

>>730358516
>First off we didn't "nuke" anyone. We dropped an atomic bomb on them.
What the fuck is this shit? What do you think "nuke" means?

>power of the sun
Nope. Fission != fusion.

Stop acting like a pretentious faggot.

>>730368286
Worth it to send a message to any dictator that was installed by the Rothschilds and doesn't follow the plan, that you'll be hanged and your country poisoned to death.

>>730368483
A jew with a 95 IQ and a 2.5 inch penis (jewish average).

>>730368516
Fission and fusion both exist in the sun.
Pseudointellectual.

>>730368621
Oh you're a jew?
Fuck off subhuman, were done here.

>>730358516
>they used bamboo sticks!!
Better nuke them.

American logic.

>>730366339
>>730365879
>>730365676

> nice samefag distraction technique

samefagging an attack on you'reself so you're autism doesnt show

>>730368749
Antisemite piece of shit. You people are going under, you'll see.

>>730368799
yeah, i cant stand people like that, their pathetic

>>730368424
>>730368286
>>730368164

Fuck you and your fucking cancer.

>>730368339
no. but toilet paper sales in those cities will see a sharp and steady decline.

>>730368799
>>730368936
CANCER

>>730366666
chekd

>>730368692
And water and gasoline exist in a car. I suppose because there's water in the radiator, they're powered by water eh?

>>730355961
No

>>730368846
I masturbated to completion to a picture of Sarah Silverman once, can we be friends?