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who here /army/ What should I expect in Basic?

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who here /army/

What should I expect in Basic?
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Over my dead body.
Nothing to do today. What do?
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>>730279913
Butt-rape
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>>730280017

Wut
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if you have a girlfriend you better get rid of her before jodie gets her.
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>>730279913
getting killed by your fellow soldiers
>pic related
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Getting screamed at. Getting smoked for other people's mistakes. Ruck marches. Goes by quick
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Good goy
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>Learn to suck dick and clean boots
>You'get really good at the first and learn the basic of the second
>You now are cocksucker, guzzler of cum, destroyer of dicks

If you are dirtpoor like me you have nothing better. Otherwise go to college.
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>>730279913
Why is that guy's jaw bigger than the rest of his face?
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>>730282158

Because he's a man
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By the way, if you ace the ASVAB or whatever is called in USA go Air Force or Navy.

These are universally the branches that are less likely to use you as cannon fodder.
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>>730282158
Plastic surgeon threw that in as a freebie during the sexual-reassignment work.
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>>730279913

Well I have a girl cousin whose bf just went through...he could have his phone and alype. What I understand to cut back military suicicdes they are cuddling privates more so you dont get brain washed as hard as I was.

Its been 12 years since basic and I czn still fold corners like no ones business
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>>730279913
Don't be scared. Everyone says, "Oh you're going to die and be thrown to the slaughter etc etc etc."
But man, there are so maby other jobs in the Army besides infantry. Hopefully you didn't try to be a hero and you picked a decent job
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>>730279913

Go navy or chairforce. You'll actually learn some thing useful that you can use in the real world.
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>>730283544
Prior Air Force here.....go AF if possible...qualkty of life is so far ahead of other branches. My brother was 82nd ab inf....seriously go air force and dont be a cop....go medical..all the cute sluts go medical.

>Source: I was a cop.
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>>730283912

>Tfw picked infantry

I joined the national guard though so I'm not too worried about deployment. Just wanted to get through with only 4 weeks of AIT a cooler weekend drill.
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>>730283544

actual vet here.

basic is just dumb, sometimes fun. it's not hard so don't let anyone tell you it is. other people have little hearts to go along with their little wieners and will try to drag you down, but just ignore them.

you'll get yelled at and shit, but it's all a game. just do what you're told and try your best. it's 9 weeks....nothing.

oh, actually here is my big advice. remember that after basic, you'll basically relearn everything, and lose contact with everyone. all these dumb mother fuckers are going to act like you'll be friends for life. you're never going to see them again. don't bother making plans or god forbid get fucking basic training tattoos. the unit you're in at basic is just for organizational purposes and there is no pride in being part of it. don't fucking get a tattoo, don't fucking get a graduation ring. they're gonna bring these stupid vendors to you trying to get you to buy t-shirts and shit.....JUST DON'T.

and when you get to your unit, don't buy a fucking car. wait until after your first deployment.

ALSO NO FUCKING PAYDAY LOANS.

Basically don't make use of anything right outside the gate. don't go to that strip club, go to the one in the nearest city, don't get a payday loan, don't get a car from that dealer....NOTHING.

good luck fuck face.
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Nobody ever warned how sick everybody gets while in basic. You WILL come down with something. Colds , flu, scabies, pink eye, poison ivy, pneumonia, and whatever else you can think of from living in close proximity with a bunch of dirty fucks from all corners of the country.

Oh and you'll be on your feet all day everyday so be prepared to see your tootsies get fucking demolished. Lost feeling in my left big toe in basic and its never come back.

But really it aint so bad. Everyday is long but looking back it wasn't very difficult. Shit is simple as fuck. Just do what they tell you, go through the motions, and you'll make it just fine.
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>>730279913
Expect to die for Israel goyim
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>>730283928
>>730283915
>>730283544


all this shit is true, but, i understand the appeal of the army and marines. navy and af makes sense, and they have their share of badasses, but you want to really have that military experience. part of that is having a shitty experience. i was always jealous of the airforce with their cute girls and fucking extra pay because they had to share the armys living standards....but you wanna be a soldier...not a fucking airman.
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>>730283714
No. They have to baby these progressive snowflakes because they grew up pacified their entire life so if you take their phones away and treat them like adults and make them realize their opinions don't matter as much as their single mom parent told them they can't take it. Their feelings clench and they get triggered and they decide killing themselves is the way to go.


I was in the AF in 2000 and basic sucked and was a ton of shit to keep track of and it was extremely stressful. Went Army in 2015 and holy shit it's summer camp. By far the easiest paycheck I've ever gotten and I fucking pulled 18 year old girls left and right.

Liberalism and the military moving towards progressive culture and not the progressives going into the military culture is what is fucking everything up.

Seriously, in 10 years. Any country will beat the shit out of the US because of this pussy snowflake shit
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>>730284368

Oh yeah, this too!

All these trailer park retards are going to bring plague to your sleeping bay and you'll get sick. don't be afraid of quarters or people telling you you'll get recycled. i got a viral infection and spend 3 nights on quarters and still graduated. take the hit, get better, get back in there.
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>>730284308 fucking this

I still can't believe I bought that stupid fucking ring for $200. Managed to dodge those ugly fucking shirts, photos, grad book, and all that other bullshit at least
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>>730279913
To be team killed by the government
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>>730284025
National Guard deploys more than active duty.

I'm sure you must know that
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>>730279913
this:
http://us.mil.army/basictraining
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>>730281011
That's a neat pic my nigger.
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>>730284510
You wanna be dick deep in cute bitches.
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>>730284618

ha ha ha. i ordered the ring then when they showed me i was like "Wtf hell no"

good job dodging the graduation book that is 99% pictures of anyone but you.
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Depends on what your MOS is. Infantry basic and other jobs basic are very different. In intensity and style. I was 11B. First steps are getting the rules down and learning to follow basic orders as a group. Constant smoke sessions (physical workouts to the point of muscle failure) getting you used to the full schedule of training. Then comes the learning. Weapons, basic tactics, equipment. Lots of ruck marches that start low (3miles) end up becoming 10-15miles. (They suck). Get used to wing screamed at, and learning to scream back. Volunteer when asked tho people say not too. Just do what your told and for the love of God don't tell your drill seargent it's your birthday.
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>>730279913
That you will die for fake freedom. Get shot.
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>>730284589
Sounds like you had some POG ass job. Things would have been different as a grunt.
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In war time be prepared to be deployed.
I got in as a Satellite Network Controller and I'm getting out this year. Already getting offers from job for over 100k a year.
Don't fucking be an idiot and let dudes push you around with the whole "You POG price of shit. If you're aren't killing people you're worthless. Etc etc etc."
Reclass to a job that'll be marketable outside of the military. Unless you didn't score high enough on the ASVAB.... then good luck to ya.
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Former Army Sergeant reporting. (42A20. Before I take shit for being a POG, know that it was my only damn decent choice. I'm color blind. It was that or don't join, and I wanted to serve)

It's a fucking awesome ride, OP. It goes quickly. Just go in with a blank mind, no expectations or fear.

Thousands of us have done it before you, thousands will after.

Life is going change on the other side. You'll change, and everything you leave behind will change too. Leaving for the military is a fork in the road of your life. You'll earn new accomplishments and meet new friends that will be closer to you than family in some ways, but, you can't go back to your old life. Don't expect anything (especially women) to be waiting for you after. Be open to the new change.

You'll be pushed in ways you've never experienced. You'll learn new definitions of tired, hungry, fear, pride, accomplishment, and friendship.

Let's see what you're made of, OP. You have to earn it. It isn't given. It's worth it.

- Army SGT
Basic: Sand motherfucking Hill, D 3/47th IN, Fort Benning, GA

Pic related. Dude on the right.
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>>730284714

No I didn't, actually. My recruiter told me NG hasn't deployed since the SS act was put into place.
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>>730284510

Being balls deep in women is more appealing. I had a dude in Iraq tell me I was less of a man because my deployment was 7 months. Lmao enjoy being there 15, ill be back in the states fucking eating hot wings and fucking bitches.

Also note I got called a solider a lot mlre then an airmem because people really dont care about the difference.
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>>730285013
POG faggot detected
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>>730284822

i think i fucked more marine girls than af girls and i think i enjoyed them more. there are a lot of sexy marines with firm stomachs and thighs.

one was an instructor and all the little marine boots had a hard on for her. then i'd roll up in my dumb acus and little red beret and take her home and the look on their faces was priceless.
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>>730285136
Haha that's fine you fucking Neanderthal. Have fun being a mall cop when you get out trying to peddle you piece of shit "infantry" brand shirts and coffee.
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>>730285006
Haha. You mean my army basic? I'm have a hilariously easy job in the ARMY. And it's essentially a big hang out session every day.

Yes, but when it comes to communism, I'd rather do a job where I relax and get paid the same as someone sleeping in a shit tent for month long exercises. Meanwhile I just show up just to look at the madness and then go home.
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Current Air Force. Don't go Army. No one really wants to "typical" military experience unless you're just ignorant and want what you see on TV. Air Force is the way to go. I'm Aircraft Maintenance, and I wouldn't recommend it. We get shit on a lot, but still WAAAAYYY better than Army.
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>>730279913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbEyrPbJNX0
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>>730285136

combat arms that never got to pop his cherry detected. the hardest fucker i knew was a light wheel mechanic and i'm pretty sure he's taken more lives out of this world then ones you put in before they hit the bottom of your sock.
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>>730285040
thanks for your service mein vrother
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>>730284714
>>730285042

Can someone confirm this? I'm considering applying for a contract termination if it turns out my recruiter was lying.
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>>730285042
That's it. Believe the recruiter. He is always honest and has the best interest of the recruit in his heart. He would never lie or sway you to do anything.
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>>730285136
If you're anything other than a POG you're a tool and you've accepted that your life is worthless.
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>>730279913
Army is for pussies OP, join the Marine Corps
That's where it's at
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>>730285330
I have friends in the Air Force. Do this OP. My buddy was stationed in Japan and sent me pictures, wish I'd joined up with him.
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>>730285472
Hey retard.

Your contract starts when you show up at basic. That means just don't get on the damn plane and stay home and say fuckem.

How do I know this? Because the recruiters know you have to at least show up for their quota. So they put the fear in you so you at least show up.
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>>730285040

Ex-Army SGT again.

I forgot something important.

If the Army offers you Airborne school in AIT after basic, which they often do, TAKE THAT SHIT.

You're gonna be ragged out. You'll have survived basic, then another 2-4 months or so in AIT for your job, and you're going to want to say fuck more training. You're gonna wanna get to your duty station and start partying and living normal life again.

Here's the thing. When you're in AIT, you don't have a unit yet. You're under the TRADOC (training command, Army wide) budget. AKA, unlimited funds. When you get to your unit, you're on THEIR budget, and they might not want to pay out to send you to the school.

Airborne is one of the best schools the Army has. It's parachuting. You get to fucking skydive in one of the safest settings (parachute riggers are beasts. They're fucking great at their job, because they have to jump with a random number of chutes that they packed, so every one they pack they assume is for THEM and do it right).

Plus, you get distinguished. You wear a badge that gets respect. You wear a different color beret, different boots, etc.

You even have a distinctive greeting, only used by fellow Airborne soldiers. When we pass an officer, an NCO, whatever, instead of "good morning, Sir", it's "Airborne, Sir." If he is, he'll say it back. "Airborne, son."

It's a club. Be in that club.
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they'll make you wear tighty whities
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>>730285643

Hey buddy, I don't appreciate being called retard. Also, NG contracts go live as soon as you sign up at MEPS.
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>>730279913
why did his hat go flat?
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>>730285686
Actually, in army basic you wear tighy beiges
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>>730284589
yeah you sound like a real conservative non-pacified person, you're the real special one buddy having a mommy and daddy to tell you what to do instead of just one of them, that would of just made things easier and entitled you a lot more huh?
>join air force
>call other branches pussy snowflakes
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>>730285835
If you don't like being called a retard, you definitely don't want to join the Army.
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>>730285654

They offered it after basic, I said no, they offered it after AIT, I said no, I go to my unit and it's group.......and there I was sounding off for equipment check.

Airborne gets you street cred and extra money, but it can also land you in a unit like the 82nd where you'll wish you just started selling ass instead of join the Army.
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>>730279913
PTSD
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>>730285835
So you're telling me that noafter what you have to take that flight or they are going to arrest you?

With what? The sheriff will show u? Give me a break.

Imagine you break your leg the day before. Do you still have to go? If you don't go are they going to put you in a holding cell?

You really need to understand that if you want out, don't go to basic and it negates your contract.

If you don't believe me. Then call up a recruiter from a different city. You people think they are body snatches. This isn't the draft. It's volunteer.
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>>730285972
I was referring to when I went to army basic. And the culture change and how everyone is treated carefully so no one kills themselves.

You didn't read what I wrote.

If you get someone who has the skin of a baloon. They will not be able to keep it together if they find themselves hundreds of miles from home and in a position like that.

But of course. Just make up everything.
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>>730279913
Now... it ain't shit. 25 years ago you would get your ass kicked physically,mentally and emotionally.
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>>730286239

I'll be given a dishonorable discharge if I fail to show up to basic under a National Guard contract.
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>>730286590
They won't give you a dishonorable you weirdo.

A simple general. Also it doesn't even matter. It is literally against federal law for employers to ask if someone has been in the service or what their discharge was.

You stay home
General discharge other than honorable
Stay in bed and not give a fuck

You act like you're going to get snatched from your house and your door beat down
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>>730285654
Nah man, everybody and their mother gets jump wings.
Space Command Badge is where its at.
"Good ol' Boys club" doesn't transition well to the civillian world.
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>>730286477

this is army wide though. there is a suicide epidemic and there has been for a while.
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>>730286965
People who have no opportunities in the real world join the Army as a last resort, realize there's no hope in that either, then kill themselves. Pretty straightforward, I'd say.
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>>730287163

nah, it's not really like that. i lost more friends to suicide than the enemy. i don't expect you to understand the emotional toll some aspects of war take on people, because i certainly don't and haven't felt like offing myself.
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>>730279913
Expect to be killed by friendly fire and then have it covered up. Assholes.
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>>730285006
ayyoo

Go grunt or go home. Unless you're joining for job skills...then go airforce and be a plane mechanic. You'll always have a job.
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>>730287425
Fracked. Was intentional murder not friendly fire.
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>>730286965
Wow. Just wow.

Hook, line, and sinker.

Let me ask you a question. Has anyone in your unit killed themselves? Also, do they explain why most do? Or the job's? No. They broad brush it. Theyou have every program under the sun to help these distressed individuals so what do they do? Lighten up training so when they hit the sand that's it.

Or these people getting divorced by where's while deployed.

They just broad brush this "epidemic". Just like they keep fucking saying 1 in 5 women will be raped in the militart.

Wow, raped. They also include having sex under the influence as rape. It's a joke. The whole thing is a joke.
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>>730287163
Or they want their college paid for
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>>730286068
>>730286798

Well, fair enough and true for you two. I was assigned to PSBs and S1s as a 42A.

My options for Airborne went to nada after AIT.

I scored really highly on the ASVAD (have a PhD now in the civilian world), and they promised me the sun, moon, and fucking stars. All I wanted was to be an MP. They hyped me up to go intelligence. I was on board.

Then the color vision test at MEPS dried up my options to: Truck driver (no), cook (fuck no), or admin. It was admin or not join, so, fuck it. Air conditioning and being surrounded by women sounded alright. I wonder why they didn't offer medical? I would've taken medical.

Well, live and learn.

I also got stationed in Alaska for 4 years because I put Hawaii Hawaii Hawaii as my wish list at MEPS. Alaska and Hawaii are the same division: US Army Pacific. I got greedy, and spent 4 years in the winter wonderland for it.
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>>730285261
I'd rather be a mall cop and sell veteran t-shirts than have a dick so small I pee on my own balls.
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>>730287425
Niggas don't know about tillman
And the bullshit Bush2 years
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•NEVER Volunteer for anything in the first couple weeks. NEVER. Someone will say: "We need volunteers to....." You get NO extra bonus points for volunteering, and it will be the SHITTIEST assigned task possible.

• When the Drill Sergeant tell you all to do something, YOU BETTER FUCKING LISTEN. Do not turn the recruit next to you and ask" "What did he say". FUCKING LISTEN. You have one fucking important job in In Processing and Boot Camp: LISTEN TO WHAT THEY TELL YOU.


*DON'T be "That Guy"...

That is my advice for the first couple of weeks, because it can be overwhelming. After a couple weeks you will get a feel for what is going on.
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>>730287614

Dude, there's a suicide epidemic because everyone in the army is an alcoholic/stimulant addict. Quit acting like muh horrors of way is fucking life breaking.
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>>730287614

2 suicides. maybe it isn't a real epidemic, but it felt like we had suicide prevention every other day.
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>>730287756
Slick come back.
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>>730279913
I was in the army for 8 years. Lots and lots of running basically. I dont think they yell at you quite like they used to and they def dont put their hands on you anymore. They will try to break you down. Confuse you. Dont let it get to you. Dont argue. Just say yes drill sgt at/no drill sgt. Most times youre never even fucking up but they will try and make you feel like you are. Never say sorry drill sgt. They will fuck you up for calling them sorry.
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Or this
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Since Trump has decided we're going into a hot war. expect to die.

Hey, but the oil companies will make a few extra bucks. You won't see any of their kids in your platoon.
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>>730288195
It does seem odd to me that opium production in Afghanistan has skyrocketed since the invasion, when before the country was controlled by the Taliban who tried to stamp out the crop.
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>>730288109
This is good advice. I would add don't take any jobs. Just do the minimum in boot. Don't attract undue attention.
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>>730279913
well your gonna find out what dick taste like so theres that,
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>>730285654
42A2V here
dont boost the airborne life lol you werent airborne shit cake, 82nd life has a high opt tempo and its a black hole at bragg, you get to talk shit to other who arnt airborne but expect really shitty jump, no real medical help for problems that come with jumps, and see alot of people who are 4 year career people. i suggest going to a leg unit, see if you like it then go airbone/ranger also if your 18 thinking about going sf, you wont get selected casue of age alone, wait till your 24+
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for the love of god take care of your feet.
wash and dry them constantly moisturize when you can.
you will march and run them to death
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>>730287922
You'd think everything is an epidemic by the constant barrage of sexual assault training, homosexual awareness training, suicide prevention training.

Now! Transgendered awareness training!

That's like when the news did a few shark attack stories it seemed like it was an epidemic. But realistically it was a low year.

These people are forcing this crap to justify their jobs. Instead of giving all these briefings that make them want to kill themselves maybe they should do another type of briefing.

"Platoon, keep your hands to yourself and respect each other"

End of briefing

People know not to rape, sexually assault someone, and even know suicide is frowned upon. Every member knows they can talk to their chain or a hot line to get help.

It's retarded that I have to get told to help prevent sexual assault every month when everyone already knows it. It's insanity
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>>730284368
I got laryngitis while I was there. Was fucking 95 degrees outside and I felt like I was freezing. Spent 3 days on quarters and got out the same day as rifle qualifications. Still felt like shit, so I had to shoot 4 times before I could even pass.
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>>730282158
His name is Pat Tillman. Pretty famous dude. Watch the documentary about him to find out what a real man is.
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>>730286477
Then we probably just disagree about the point of training. They don't train people to make it suck on purpose they don't want to make it sucky and for people to hate it for no reason other than it's just suppose to suck.
I hardly even use phones and would of had a much easier time at basic if some of the younger guys had theirs so they had a distraction instead of talking shit everytime I need to go to that end of the bay to get to my locker while they lay around in their bunk hoping a drill sergeant doesn't come in and catch them on it since my platoon was rarely in the bays and my bay lost the privilege of sitting on bunks except under a few circumstances like when it's time to lay down and sleep on it.
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>>730288934
>His name is Pat Tillman.
Was.
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>>730288934

Nah. I'm ex military myself. He was not smart. Don't die for dipshit Presidents without coherent strategies (current one in particular).
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Laugh a lot when the drill instructor is yelling at you. They say funny shit for a reason. They love the feedback. Smile and laugh.
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>>730284308
This is good advice. I will say, I went to basic/ait/airborne school/rip on an 11X contract, with a bunch of other 11X guys, and a few of us did end up in the same bat. But yeah, for the most part I don't remember most of the people I went to basic/ait with by name.
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>>730289005
Following instructions and learning discipline isn't making it suck on purpose. The ability to listen, complete your instructions, and to use your downtime for more important things than Facebook is very important. Most of these people, I'm sure you can agree, never been in that situation.

We might as well not even have basic with what you're saying. Learn the warrior tasks and battle drills. Then do a workshop with your friends and family clapping and complete them and that's it.

Why not just make it a positivity conducive situation. Come in a civilian, leave a civilian. That's the motto now.
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>>730289176
Like any other dead fuck in war he died for his brother(s) (literally was serving with his brother) and he absolutely despised the bullshit reasons for being there. He got in for the wrong reasons ... could have gotten out at one point but stayed in to be with his brother. I'll assume you've watched The Tillman Story. If you or anyone else hasn't ... they should. You learn exactly what is up with the fucking Army.
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>>730279913
Leave your gf because she will either cheat on you or end up leaving you after you get to your first duty station
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If you have a girlfriend, leave her. She will cheat on you while youre away. Anyone that says any different is a fucking liar.
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>>730290140
>>730290158
>hive mind
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>>730283544
9 years as 11B here, scored a 99 on the ASVAB when I enlisted in 2001. Brains and balls aren't mutually exclusive. Don't be a faggot, go grunt. Everyone else is just support.
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>>730279913
RIP to the legend in that picture.
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>>730289434
The purpose of training is to just learn and effectively do the shit. I have no problem with how it's done, the whole extreme we did it tougher it sucked more just doesn't seem like it makes the training more effective to me. Besides when it comes to discipline you won't find many soldiers that don't like it, even the least disciplined ones hate a lack of it and think it's a joke if they can get away without it and be way more unhappy about their situation. Discipline doesn't always mean making it suck more just for the sake of having it suck.
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>>730279913
Don't volunteer for anything. You get no reward. Whether you're are the biggest shitbag or the most high speed soldier in basic, you will never be remembered and you get no reward. You all graduate. Don't get noticed. Work hard. And deal with a shitty 2 months
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>>730279913
It's all mental. Stay positive. It is temporary and has to be done. Don't listen to any mind games. They are only trying to scare you. They can't touch you.
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>>730292044
This.
You're a tool in a larger machine.

Just buy in to all the yes man bullshit
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>>730286798
I think this might be the first time I've ever heard of Army wearing an Air Force badge, especially since that's a cyber operator/communications officer badge and designated to a specific set of career fields....
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>>730285040
Sand mofuckin Hill! Fellow alumnus here. Graduated in 2000. Fun world awaited me a year later.
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>>730291134
Aside from the foot pain everything I did in the real Army was harder than Basic. Training should be worse than the real thing.
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>>730284308
Active duty here. This advice is on the money. What's your mos?
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>>730285654
The only people that give a shit about being airborne, are the airborne themselves.
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>>730284308
fellow Vet here. Spot on advice. Also never eat the vegetable omelet MRE. Always go for pasta.
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Lots of sage advice here.

One thing I'm not seeing..

Stay away from women. They will flock to you as you're a consistent paycheck and future alimony.

Keep the snek in its cage and save your money. Trust me!

19D
2001-2004
1-506 Inf.
1/11 ACR
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>>730283605
Jeez you pathetic beta, basement dwelling cuck...no you couldn't be a cuck because you never get laid. You have no idea who this is and what he gave up. I suggest you end your pathetic existence. It's not hard drink some bleach or hang yourself oh that's right you are so fat you would need a crane. Well get a gun and an hero. Except you are a an coward. Just kys now
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>>730294251
This man is Lord God.

He's right. Army bases tend to be in lower wage areas. A Bastion of women looking to improve economically.

Stay away. Get a flesh light.

Don't drink and drive, and go to college.

When/if you go to college, realize no one cares about your experience or your service. Also don't expect people to feel sorry for you. This is your choice and we live in a country without a service requirement.

Society doesn't owe you anything.

Now go Kill some Koreans, Syrians, Russians or whoever is on our shitlist
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Tag chasers are one of the true scums of the earth.
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Any girl that claims to be or was a cheerleader, loves to be submissive and loves a man in uniform will cheat on you for sure.
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>>730279913
Wasn't this the retard that kept trying to snitch on anything his unit did then "unexpectedly" got domed in a mountain pass?

Don't volunteer for anything, don't stand out but don't fuck off, just do average and you'll coast through.
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any advice for recent college grads considering joining one of the branches?
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>>730292898
This was my entire point, training probably shouldn't fuck you up worse than the job. It's to prepare you for the job not put you on profile before you ever show up to do it.
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