Incredibly reasonable Christian here. AKA The Parrot guy. Ran

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>>730082966

do you drink or are you a pansy?

>>730083386
Sure I drink.
Not a lot.

The first miracle Christ did was to turn water into wine at a wedding.

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>>730083386
And that's not all Johnny! Don tell him what he won.

>>730083587
ok checks out then

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>>730084997
Psst a secret (not really)..

If you want to know if a person is a Christian see if they exhibit the Fruits of the Spirit.

(Galatians 5:22)
Love (Greek: agape, Latin: caritas)
Joy (Greek: chara, Latin: gaudium)
Peace (Greek: eirene, Latin: pax)
Patience (G: makrothumia, Latin: longanimitas)
Kindness (Greek: chrestotes, Latin: benignitas)
Goodness (Greek: agathosune, Latin: bonitas)
Faithfulness (Greek: pistis, Latin: fides)
Gentleness (Greek: prautes, Latin: modestia)
Self-control (Greek: egkrateia, Latin: continentia)

I mean no one is perfect, but these are the litmus.

does polly want a cracker?

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>>730085818
Most birds love crackers, but they are not really good for them.

Millet or Sunflower seed (very fattening) is for most birds like tuna for a cat.

Do you hate gays? Or just tolerate them because you're not supposed to be judgey?

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>>730086242
I am Gay.
Though I have been celibate for more than 25 years.

Many Christians refuse to accept my testimony because I will not deny my attractions. I do not date or seek out others for a relationship. (Matt 19) But saying I do not still find males attractive would be a lie. I have not been able to "pray the gay away"..

My friend says he doesn't believe in God. Well at least not in Jesus, but a higher power. He talks shit about my religion and says I'm brain washed, should I just stop hanging out with him? I feel as if the Lord himself is testing me.

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>>730086981
You don't have to stop hanging out with someone just becasue they don't believe as you do.

At least he is open enough to consider the higher power thing. Just agree not to interfere with each others faith or lack thereof.

Live as Christ taught be an example.

You do not HAVE to preach to him or try to convince him of anything.

(If you really feel compelled to end the friendship because of some gut feeling or ??? well you have to live with the results.)

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>>730082966
I want to be Christian for the dating scene but idk, I don't buy the whole God thing.

Can you sell me on it?

>>730086657
Well it was Jesus who said "leave your wives" and such

>>730082966
Give me a motivation to go to church tomorrow

i almost fainted at mass again on wednesday

why can't the incense go away

>>730088705
Sale you?

Not really.
I mean I can explain some of the stories and histories in the Bible.. But it has to be something that you seek out. That you desire.

King Solomon said A man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life

IE Enjoy all things for tomorrow we may die.

>>730089173
Well the whole religion thing is like a buzzkill tbh

King Solomon sounds like a bro

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>>730088926
Eh?

I would need more context?

(Matthew 19) Christ speaks of the fact that God never wanted divorce. Marriage was to be eternal. But because of folks in Moses time the Hebrews demanded divorcement.

>>730089315
Didn't Jesus ask his apostles to leave their wives and follow him?

>>730086657
Why do you identify the ungodly flesh as yourself instead of your soul if it has been made free from homosexuality by faith?

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>>730089067
Does the Church you want to go to pass an "offering plate"?

I don't very often suggest more to folks then that they read their Bibles.

>>730089169
Yeah I can tolerate most of that perfumery.

Sandalwood, Frankincense and Tuberose are OK.. But only in moderation.. *cough*

>>730089227
I agree and in the Bible it says of religion:

It is the teaching and traditions of man that make void the word of God.


I kind of like to read about the Prophets rather than to enrich men in funny hats who are interested in profit$.

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>>730089619
You remind me of a dear friend from high school who became a Theologian despite being the first person I would assume to be an atheist.

Scholars of Christ are a curious bunch.

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>>730089531
No... None of them were married at the time.
If they had been? Their family would have been welcome.

>>730089599
Brother I know who I am.
Do you know who you are?

Why do you alienate your brothers?

I am free of Homosexuality, but I am still Gay.

What did you give up for our Father?

What made you believe in this god instead of any of the other 5000 gods people believe in?

Is it because you grew up around Christian people and you can't think for yourself? Of course it is

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>>730089782
Remind you?
Is he still alive?

Thank you for the kind words.

>>730089920
She, and yes, but I don't speak to her much anymore.

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>>730089883
Why do you answer questions you ask of others, for yourself? Why not just ask the question and await an answer?

(See now you have your jimmies rustled and I did not even have an opportunity to do it for you.)

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>>730089985
That's too bad.

I love to meet others who like to "swim deep" theologically speaking.

I suppose you have reasons for not google-ing her?

>>730089834
I think we may just be splitting hairs with how you worded that. I would not consider someone who does not commit an act of homosexuality gay just because they have perverse lust allowed to come against them.

>>730090041
It's because of this isn't your reason you are not only a faggot but severely retarded as well.

>>730090153
I could google her but it's not really important. We walk separate paths. I saw her like, 5 years ago. Was cool.

I'm not a great friend, I don't keep track and don't mail cards.

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>>730090203
Sorry I am prone to be a bit defensive on the matter.

See.. >>730090340


>>730090347
Sometimes friend teach us things no one else can. But hey walk your path. It will still be interesting. I just gravitate to other truth seekers.

Pick is for >>730090340
allow me to turn both cheeks.

Why are you a Christian? What convinced you? And if you were raised that way, have you ever taken a critical look on your religion?

>>730090561
I seek the truth, but I am not convinced Christianity can lead me there. But, I find I agree with Jesus more often than not... it's a difficult thing. I think Christ is right in most things, more than many others, but not in all.

I do not believe in loving your enemies. But I do believe in forgiveness.

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>>730090782
>What convinced you?
Christ..

I mean really the guy was willing to die for what he believe and he attacked the "priests" in Solomon's own temple. He was not a fan of organized religion. I was Baptized Catholic and left before first communion. I did attend a "private school" for 3 years that was part of the "Agape Church" (TM)

I am certainly NOT one to recommend Church as a way to learn about Christ and his teachings. You may or may not find a decent teacher in a Church?

Read your Bible...


Bullinger's Companion Bible (KJV)
and a Strong's Concordance.

I am very critical of my religion.

I often say "Teach the law, struggle to follow it. but NEVER dare to enforce it upon another!"

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>>730090944
Loving your enemies does NOT mean to sell out or surrender to them. It just means do not harass and attack them. Always give them opportunity to repent. If they do NOT repent you are NOT required to forgive them.

(Matthew 18)

But if you go through life only doing what you are SURE Christ taught, and not some guy in a funny hat? Then by all means do so.

>>730091369
>Christ convinced me
Hmm okay. But I was looking for specific examples of what convinced you of the truthness of the claims that Christianity make.
For example how can you be so sure that the events depicted in the Bible actually happened. (Btw are you a literalist? Do you think there are flaws in the Bible?)

What about Christianity has that makes you believe in it that boudhism, Islam and all the other religions

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>>730091906
I have had those "famous" personal experiences that showed me something more then we realize is going on in "The World"..

In my misspent youth I got in some serious trouble while seeking my way. I was in Jail for assaulting a police officer. Now I thought at the time he was a servant of the devil so I reacted mostly out of fear (drugs probably were not a good thing to do at the time.) Anyway in the jail the same thing kept being repeated over and over. By other detainees. "You need to confess to the District Atty. if you don't they always file additional charges against you.." I was thinking "that is stupid! I have the right to remain silent and not incriminate myself!" It occurred to me that the only "person" I ever really needed to confess to was God.
Suddenly a light went on and so I prayed just that. I was out of jail in less than 5 minutes. When I look up the charges against me online to this day they say "pending" (over 12 years ago.)

>Btw are you a literalist? Do you think there are flaws in the Bible?

Yes to both..

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>>730091906
>What about Christianity has that makes you believe in it that boudhism, Islam and all the other religions

What? Don't have..

I think that is what you wanted to ask?

I don't know much about Buddhism I certainly have nothing critical to say about it or the Buddha.. How can I know who is or is not an Avatar of God? Islam is just a bit different though.. I mean they recognize Christ as a Prophet, but deny his divinity.

Not with standing the fact that he never absolutely confirmed his divinity. If he had the Jewish high priests would have had him crucified. </sarcasm>

But Islam extracts every Law of the Hebrew or Abrahamic faith and insists that you listen to the edicts of their Imams regardless of if that Imam follows his own edicts or not.. Again more men in funny hats saying do as I say..

A man with in the religion of Islam can find faith but I would not expect it.

>>730092597
I don't mean to be disrespectful but that's a weak base to base such a life altering belief on. If a Muslim had the very same experience you had while praying for his god, would you find his belief to be waranted?

If the Bible is flawed, then it's not the perfect word of God. If so, how do you feel justified by believing every word of it as true?

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OP you ever see this movie? It's dope.

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>>730093052
I believe when "rightly divided" the words of the Bible are true. That does not mean I believe the traditions the church (TM) would tell you are true.

I do not believe apple eating was original sin.
I do not believe Adam and Eve were the first humans ever.

These are claims the church makes that are not supported even with in the flaws of the bible as you say...

When it comes to Gods and Christs words I do read and listen to them. But I do not consider every written word of the Bible to be theirs. I am not a fan of "inspiration" if you will..

I have serious issues with Paul.

I know that Leviticus was the code of law for Priests not for you and I. (while "I" is not used for me specifically. I digress.)

Let me explain later how it can be flawed and yet still correct. I will use the Parable of the rich man if you like?

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>>730093440
No, but thank you for the suggestion. I will try to watch it this weekend. (Looks interesting.)

>>730082966
do u like birds?
i think you like birds (:

>>730093455
No I understand. I'm just trying to understand what you believe in. There was a miscommunication. I asked you if you were a Bible literalist and you answered yes. But by that I meant "Do you believe that everything in the Bible is literally true and literally happened" which you don't seem to actually believe and is inconsistent with believing there are flaws in the Bible.
But that triggers new questions. How do you determine what is true and what is not in the Bible. If you pick and choose arbitrarily, I have some big problems with that.

And you didn't answer about the jail experience. If someone with incompatible beliefs with Christianity prayed to their god and the same thing happened to them, would you say their belief is waranted?

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>>730094024
Heh heh..
Yes very much so.
It also helps to know which posts are mine.

>>730082966
Anal?

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>>730082966
What did they mean by this?
Do you believe it?

>>730086657
I bet there is room in Christ's heart for gays!

I really doubt the man condemned homosexual relations

>>730094192
Not to turn a religious discussion thread into a birb thread haha..
Have you raised any? Any particular ones you like (m guessing parrots and other colorful exotics)?
What kinda stuff do you do with your day i guess?
)truthfully i just don't have the energy to have a faith discussion like everyone else here; not that i'm not open to, it's just like 5:30 am ); )

>>730082966
How valid is the old testament?
I mean it mentions literal genocide as a good thing.

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>>730082966
>be catholic church
>sentence entire netherlands to death
>never apologise

Are you comfortable knowing these guys picked witch gospels made it into the Bible?

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>>730094112
I answered yes when it is "rightly divided".

Most of the time it isn't "rightly divided."


I mean there are 2 stories of creation in Genesis. Not just one. The Bible is the story of the "Hebrew" People primarily. They were NOT the first race of humans on Earth. The Earth is not 70000 years old and the Bible certainly makes no such claims.

So what is true? Did Christ himself say it?
Did God? Or was it Paul? What gives Paul more authority then Christ? Or the Pope for that matter? Christ taught us what we need to know.. Most of it is with in that book..

I can not speak on behalf of a musim more than what I said above. They are (at least the Imams.) No different then the vast majority of men who also presume to speak for God and wear silly hats.

>>730082966
Personal question but where are you from? (Country)
Is greed ALWAYS a bad characteristic?

>>730094762
He could be coptic or nestorian

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>>730094279
Wat?

>>730094305
The Northern Gate to Jerusalem was called the "Eye of the needle" was used to admit travelers at night. A rich man had to unload his camel and have it crawl through the gate. It was a difficult but not impossible task.

>>730094366
There is room for Christ in my heart. It is our Father that I have some questions for. I hope you are right.

>>730094473
Only little guys. Budgerigars, Love Birds, Cockatiels. I am too old to raise a Macaw. Would feel bad if I shortened ones life by dying on it in the next 20 years.

I also love to putter about in the kitchen.

>>730095347
aw okay, you seem like a really sweet gentle fella if you like little tiny cuties like them
as much fun as i'm having lurking i am falling asleep sitting up; will you be back one day bird man? ):

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>>730094762
No, but luckily you can lookup almost any related text you desire today, online.

Read everything!!

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>>730094773
So some parts are true , some aren't and you're the one to arbitrarily decide which one is true or not?

I'm not necessarily talking about Islam in this case. Just someone with incompatible beliefs with yours. Would their faith be waranted if they had the same experience

>literally #jerusalemgate
No offense but that's nonsense. There is no archeological evidence for either a gate like that in Jerusalem or gates like that existing at all.
"Large animal that lived in the area" going through a needle was a saying back then.
Surely the thought of rich people reading that bit and spreading a rumour accured to you. I'm on mobile but do google it.

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>>730094914
I am American via Italy...

I have Catholic roots but I do not follow the church.

>>730095476
Rest well.
I am around here often on weekends..
(As of today. I had taken a bit of a long vacation.)

Love Birds? Cuties?
The Napoleon's of the bird world, suffering from tail envy! (I wish I had mine here still... sigh..)

>>730095589
Not what I said.
Read the thread.

>>730095722
Learned men... </SARCASM>

>>730095722
Meant to reply
>>730095347
Also that's not a parrot. Unless that's what you feed them.

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>>730095949
LOL Parrots would love the shit out of those spring rolls.

But the image was related to my putter about the kitchen comment.

>>730095940
>Learned men... </SARCASM>
D-don't just ignore me like that...
rude

>>730082966
What do you think of the current pope?

>>730095589
>>730095940
How is that not what you said?
>>730094773

Also, could you please answer the question?

>>730096118
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewing_needle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_New_Testament

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>>730096261
I think he is a decent man caught up in events
he is not prepared for. I feel sorry for him.

I said I read the words of God and Christ (attributed directly to either.) and try to understand and live by them.I do not believe James or Paul or Levi spoke with greater authority then Christ...

You know who what when wear?

Who is speaking to whom? Why, and wear are they?

>>730096276
There are no longer ID's. Could you please re-ask your question? If I replied to it could you please clarify your question?

>>730082966
Why aren't you a communist or a socialist?
Helping the poor should be your priority, as well as loving your fellow men.

>>730097030
Sorry this post link >>730096276
should have been before >"I said I read"

>>730097062
I don't identify with most of the labels.
They are priorities in my life.

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As an american how can you live with yourslef?

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>>730097030
Erm *Where....

LOL

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>>730097308
I did not vote for Trump or Hillary..
I am not in charge...

>>730097386
You pay taxes to them, even though you can leave.
You're preety much saying you're only following orders.
Also you should still vote for the lesser evil, unless you don't think you can make the judgment.

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>>730082966
Pick 1 and describe how it would change your life.

>>730097030
I asked you what mechanism you're using to determine what's true or not in the Bible. You didn't give me any and instead you mentioned what parts you think are true. That, to me is an arbitrary cherry picking.

My question was about your personal experience (the jail thing). If someone else with incompatible beliefs to yours had the same experience you had, would you say having their faith strengthened by the experience is justified?
What I'm hinting at is that the experience you mentioned is not convincing at all to me and shouldn't be to you

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>>730097528
Taxes are not voluntary.
Christ said give unto Cesar that which is Cesar's.

Where can I *leave* to that I will not run in to some other Government that I disagree with as well?

I am certainly not following any orders. I am voting for those who I think are most closely in sync with my particular economic and foreign policy. (course I have not voted for a winner since Regan part deux.) Lesser of evils is a cop out..
For fucks sake we were looking at the possible False Prophet verses the possible whore of Babylon.... I would never have voted Trump... I was torn between Sanders and Johnson.

>>730097655
Ant literature. Post bigger image.

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>>730097704
BS I told you exactly what parts...


THOSE ATTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO GOD OR CHRIST.

Look up "red letter editions" see if that will help you figure out that I have answered you now at least 3 times. It certainly is not cherry picking.

If I accept all ten commandments or the golden rule I am not cherry picking.

Saying don't eat lobster while wearing polyester / cotton blends would be cherry picking. (If I were a Rabbi.)

I have also answered that question about an Islamic fellow in jail. You just don't like the answer.

Sorry.

>>730097964
>>730097386
It's not about taxes, it's about supporting corporations and therefore the system.

They make money off of your work, they sell you products and utilities. You are a tool to them. Don't maintain the status quo, be the change you want to be in the world.

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>>730098420
I do not work for a "Corporation"....
I am very very Anti..
Didi you read any of this thread before you commented.

Hi, I am OP..

>>730097964
American politicians are corrupt like hell by private firms.
You will never get a government that's anything but capitalist. Don't just stand there and wait for a miracle, take action.

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>>730098563
Brother we are in the midst if the last Generation.
Israel was refounded in 1948 and recaptured Jerusalem in 1967. That started the clock..

You are going to see some amazing things in your lifetime.

And all you have to do is NOT believe the first Super Natural Being that appear before the entire world. What ever it sais is a lie.

Look at that I just gave you the end game.

Quit worrying as if any of US is in control.

Do what you have to do to sleep at night.

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>>730082966
>>730098017
Fixed it

>>730098806
Are you saying the world is gonna end soon?
That's no excuse not to fight for a better world.

>>730098806
>lol why try

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>>730098916
The last one. "The Healer"
I pray often for that.

I would heal people obviously. I would NOT tolerate fame. (Padre Pio, no..).

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>>730099170
Solomon said that all is vanity there is nothing new under the Sun.

So I toil, and I respond to people I meet IRL..
If I am asked and can help I do.

But why would I try to change Gods plan..

Then I would be responsible for all this shit.

No, thank you, He can have it.

I'am just going to play with birdies until the moon turns red as blood.

>>730099350
Capitalism is the opposite of what Jesus strived for.
Saying it's "God's plan" is just an excuse not to move your arse from the armchair.

>>730099350
>Then I would be responsible for all this shit.
Not taking action makes you responsible for everthing happening currently. Just as not helping a dying man makes you responsible for his death.

Death punishment?
Also what's up with the amish?

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>>730099532
What Jesus strives for is not going to happen on "this" Earth...
Quick Earth Chronology:
Chosen Race fails.
Demons pervert the Earth.
God floods Middle East..
Sends Son to teach,prophecy, and redeem.
Chosen Race's Priests kill Son.
Mankind is in charge of all day to day Earth operations for more than 2000 years.
Screw it up further.
Declare peace.
Anti-Christ shows up.
Most men think he is Christ or and alien and bow to him in worship.

Christ shows up.
All flesh ends in the blink of an eye.
Eternity lessons begin.
Devil tossed in pit during lesson with dunce hat.
Lessons end. Devil released one final time to try and tempt the educated you.

You make informed choice.

Final Judgment occurs. Devil and followers go to hell.

I hope that helps you out..

What? Kids debating religion on 4chan? No thank you.

>>730088593

are these birds kissing

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>>730099753
As I said I take action.
Just not the actions YOU desire.

I am not tramping around in a protest that is true.

I help folks who ask me for help.

I don't go looking for them or trouble.

I have helped many who would have died. (I am first responder, and CPR trained though that is not my career field.

I imagine my 20 years online and chattig on boards in front of often millions probably has some small effect...

But No I am not going to become Peter Popoff or Steve Balmer, nor will I be Martin Luther King.

I am just a cog in the machine that teaches young minds to read..

So go back and feel free to be a cause-atarian (See movie PCU)

>>730099894
Huh?

Capital Punishment?

Eh, I refuse to sit on a Jury.
I mean I respond to the summons but I am totally honest in my views and so am usually disqualified.

The Amish are the Swiss Anabaptist's in America. I have quite a bit of respect for them.

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>>730100041
Heh.

It can be fun..

Try asking a question about the Bible that you have always wanted answered.

>>730099927
>find your house
>ask to join protest
>explodes

>>730100571
To
>>730100354

>>730100041
Im 78 noce try newfag

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>>730100571
Wat?

>>730100703
>I am not tramping around in a protest that is true.
>I help folks who ask me for help.

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>>730100638
Really?

Congrats you are now the oldest I have chatted with on /b/..


49 here...

Pic not related but I am OP..

>>730095347
>falling for a meme
Must be nice to have something to cling on to while you're at the path to damnation.
There was no gate dingus.

Racism?

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>>730100894
Which of the posts was a meme?
I usally see'em..

Heck I made a few..

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>>730100982
What?

Is that a question?

I do not believe I am racist.
I recognize there are people of different ethnicity. But I like the comment that says: "there is but one race, human.."

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>>730100175
LOL No..

Just sitting on a perch that is pointing away from the Camera. The one on the left is farther away. But if it helps she is female and the other is male. Same sex pairing in wild birds is not at all uncommon though.

>>730082966
Bumping for interest

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>>730101935
Thanks for the bump.

> i don't really like that organized religion stuff
> read the book that has been revised again and again and was written by random dudes decades after jesus supposedly lived
> that's the real truth

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>>730102086
No it isn't it is a lie by those who do not choose to learn history.

Those who are fooled by a clan that has lied to mankind since nearly the beginning.

The book is not perfect to be sure. But it is the best apparently that could be gotten past the censors.

If you tell a story about a King and use his name? Odds are he will burn your book..

So names and places have been changed..
Numbers are off by quite a bit.

Translations today will try and tell you אָ֫יִל means a unicorn and NOT a fricking small ram.
It takes some work to distill the word and "rightly divide" it as I mention above.

Bullinger's Companion Bible.
Strong's Concordance.

I like Bullingers because it has the Strongs numbers next to every word so you can finally understand what is being said and to whom.

>>730102056
;)

>>730082966

I put down my crossIve been wearing for the pst 4+ months. I get this weird dreams, anything else I should look out for? Im egenrally very interested in the teachings of satnists without taking either of the sides, am I doomed? I just liek the theories not the practical faith stuff since I really just want to believe in myself and my own powers instead of gods. How do gods even benifit from my faith, why am I important?

>>730082966
anythng in the bible about the end game of humanity?

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>>730103108
You are as important as anyone else.

"And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.

A prophecy regarding of the end of days or Armageddon. (Joel 2)

You toil in the soil in which your called.

I like /b/ and a few other online sites..

Michael Warnke (SP?) was a Satanist and converted but still works with satanists.

Some people are just fascinated with rituals holy or unholy.

>>730103204
Ton's we have been chatting about it.

In fact search the term end game I think I used that phrase at one point.

Why do you live in america instead of a civilised country?

>>730103486

Another quesion. Why do I feel physically Ill after visiting a church? Im not some hardcore satanist that hates god or anything. Could the church itself be, you know, "evil"?

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>>730103715
My parents were born here...

I have considered leaving but the financial costs are prohibitive. Canada or Finland would be my top two.. But it really doesn't matter where I live. As long as there are some kids who want to learn to read.

>>730103963
Certainly a Church can be evil if it is being ruled by an Evil man..

"They will say they cast out demons in my name, and I will say I knew them not."

Revelation 2 and 3 describe 7 church types. Only 2 are good. Heck I feel that way in some schools, and most banks or government offices...

>>730104206

I expect banks schools and hospitals to be this way my man, but a church? What are the safest places I can visit without exposing myself to any kind of evil energy? Where the energy will be directly neutrolized as soon as a being enters this place? If its not the church,maybe some temple? Any suggestions on how to clean energies from places (for example my living room?)

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>>730104644
Well safe place would be to go to ground.
Any where you can stand on bare Terra Firma.
I like Forests.

It is unlikely a malevolent being would actually have affixed to your living room. To you? Certainly. God does the cleansing. You can ask him directly.

You certainly do not need me or anyone else to say it on your behalf. Though I am glad to lend a supporting voice.

I will be glad to say a prayer too.

If you need ritual?

The "oil of our fathers" can be used anywhere..
“And you shall take the anointing oil, and anoint the

tabernacle and all that is in it; and you shall hallow it

and all its utensils, and it shall be holy.” (Exodus 40:9)

>>730082966
Hi Muslim here I have a couple questions
>why do Christians worship 3 seperate entities (the spirit, god and Jesus)
>why do Christians identify their religion with a cross with Jesus suffering on it?
>why do you think Jesus is god, and who did Jesus pray to? He couldn't have been praying to himself
Thank you

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>>730082966
Lasting for 5 at the moment
Godspeed Parrot Guy

>>730105065

No evil spirits here, just in case, sorry for beeing too vague. I always prey to the stars and the moonshine, they are my sancuarity but sometimes, my physical body needs a place where it can feel safe too, so I think the best would be to reorganize my living room and for that, I need cleansing, to be completely sure you know. Anyway, thank you for your assistance.

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>>730086657
>Christian
>Gay
Choose one

>>730105504
Still waiting for a response op

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>>730105504
Because they are as mislead by men in silly hats as are most Muslims.

Christ said "Worship God.." He taught the Lords Prayer which is a style we should use when praying to God.

*Address him "Our Father who art in Heaven"
*Hallow his name keep it sacred: "Hallowed be thy name."
*Acknowledge that you desire his plans to be fulfilled. "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done. On Earth as it is in Heaven."
*Be grateful as you ask him for health guidance and strength: "Give us this day our daily bread."
*Be humble and contrite - here you would confess your sins and offer your reasoning.: "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us."

And again offer your thanks and acceptance of his plan and request for mercy: "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."


So we pray to God.

If he is Father and Son and Spirit. That is HIS decision or is it her? Who am I to say what God could should or can be?

I prefer the Icthus. But I have posted the cross in here as well only to identify my posts. I do not wear it or display it in my home as it was a murder weapon IMHO.

Your last question will have to be asked of Christ..

I only understand the trinity to be title much as a man can be a Son a Father and a Grandfather all at the same time. I do not claim to have the truth of the trinity nor do I care.

I also know that as with you and I Christ had a soul. was That soul the soul of God?

Who are you or I to say either way?

Too many men in funny hats.

>>730082966
Since youre gay and are still christian, does that also mean my belief that science and religion can coexist still makes me christian?

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>>730105944
Why? Everyone at /b/ calls me a Christfag..
What have you given up for God?

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>>730105968
Took me a bit. Many of you one of me.

I am involved in 6 threads and an MMORPG at the moment..

Patients.

Here >>730106527

>>730082966
Okay, I'll bite. Why is the Christian god the correct one? Just personal preference?

>>730082966
What denomination?

Of the formalized prayers, which is/are your favorite(s)?

>>730082966
Hey, parrot guy, what do you think about Mark 16:18

If you think it's legit, you should try drinking some bleach and seeing if it won't hurt you. Or, ask your priest to do the same. If you believe in the right god and are a 'true beliver', it sounds like something you might like to do.

>>730106595
Sure..
There are Christian Scientists.
By that I mean individual not the organization by the same name.

Believeng in that which you actually can see is fine.

See (Disciple Thomas.) If you are a skeptic you have every right to be.

While I am impatient. God is not if you actually are seeking the truth he will wait and eventually you will find it...

>>730106926
Ive heard of thomas, and for me its not so much that i dont believe in the supernatural, but more of that I think some of the bible was just made up by men. I trust and listen to most of it though. Just some small things such as creationism and the world only being 4000 years old that I cant buy into.

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>>730106745
God is God.

He is the God of Abraham and the Hebrews. He is the God of Christ and Christians.
He is the God of Islam.

He said he created "all things" So I guess he is ultimately everyone's God if they seek him.

Christs teaching finally clicked and made sense to me.

But I am not about to tell some Buddhist he is going to hell.. How could I know who is God's and who is not?

IE I am a follower of Christs teachings.
But I do not judge others unless they have literally asked me to.

>>730106758
Christian.
Read the thread please.
I covered this pretty early on..

I am not a follower of a modern priest pope rabbi or imam. Just Christ..

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>>730107205
The Bible doesn't make either of those claims.
Well at least not the 4000 year thing.

I don't which BS tradition of Creation you have been troubled by?

I mean to hear some tell it Ham (Son of Noah) was the first black man..

HAr!

Or The flood was World Wide!

LOL

The story is not unique. (Gilgamesh) They are all different "cities" reports. Same story lots of missed or embellished details.

>>730107518
My whole issue is basically the disbelief in evolution and modern science. Apparently all creation came to be in 7 "days". The "days" part is what i have an issue with. What is a "day" to god, who is omnipotent and has no need for a concept of time?

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>>730106840
>Mark 16:18
Christ did not make ME an Apostle.

Also you are reading the word of a man who was with Christ when he was a young teenager.

He viewed it through those youthful lenses and saw the other Apostles as more or less Superheros.

>>730085818
It isn't me, have a seat, let me clip, your dirty wings.

Would I be accepted into heaven if I had tried to mess with magic?

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>>730107294
I was the first anon you replied to in this comment.

Jesus is a pretty cool guy, at the very least he was preaching universal peace and/or love before it was in vogue.

I've done a little meandering through the murky waters of morality, belief, and philosophy. Heisenberg said it best: "“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”. That was very much the way it was for me, though I don't subscribe to the Abrahamic God.

There is a correct and incorrect way to go about religion, and you seem to be doing it the right way, anon. God bless, and have an excellent day.

>>730107837
>Interpreting religious texts literally
Oh dear.

>>730108099
Like with spells and witchcraft?

>>730108292
Yeah that sorta stuff, just to add as well... I do follow God and I don't plan on cursing or harming anyone with magic

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>>730107837
But see that is a problem.

Have you ever read a 1611 translation of the KJV Bible? It has three letters from the Translator Priests. All of them apologies..
But anyway in Chaldean the word days would have been something like Era or Measure.

He described it like to a child it is not whole fact it is grandpas recollections of Gods work.
Still I would be glad to summarize the real story?

>>730108193
Thats my point. I DONT interperet them literally, thats why I feel like my beliefs conflict. Also, when I discuss this with most creationists, they dont really seem to be open to science. Thats why I asked OP if one could still believe in science and be religious.

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>>730108193
Thank you for the kind words.

>>730108395
Ah I see, I assumed it wasnt literally meant to be 7 days. I dont discuss this with people at my church though, as they all tend to disagree and give me a lecture about how wrong I am. So thats why I cant tell if my beliefs conflict.

>>730082966
if you had the choice to save everyone on earth (i.e. let them see and know god's love and live happily and peacefully on earth before dying and going to heaven) but you have to suffer an eternity in hell, would you do it?

>>730082966
OP, can you address >>730108292, please?
>>730108292
>>730108389

How many days after he died did Jesus rise?

>>730108389
Unless they very clearly deserve it?

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>>730108389
I am not sure if it was Christ who said not to play with magik, but that was good advice.

He was not saying you would burn in hell because you were curious. If you are simply talking witchcraft or nature magik. I don't automatically assume witches to be the same as satanists. As I said I enjoy reading about Alchemy. I don't practice it. But magik depend upon who you decide is its source? Is it a Miracle or Something else?

Still there is very little one can do on Earth at this moment that is unforgivable.

Blasphemy of the Spirit is to lie when you stand before the Anti Christ and declare him what you know in your heart he isn't. But since he is not here yet you can not commit that sin.

Now being a devout satanist from the start well that is just flat out shooting the losing team.

Lucy wants to take Gods place and prove him a liar. But is too stupid to figure out that all out surrender would accomplish the task..
So instead we have to go through all this just so he and several billion other idiots can figure out who is in charge and why.

>>730108856
It is difficult to show logic and convince sheep of many things.

Ask one of them to show you the word apple in Genesis? Let the back pedaling commence.. "Oh it was a fruit." NOPE.

The punishment of Eve fit the crime.

>>730109341
Three, three-and-a-half?
>inb4 b8

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>>730109286
I think I did?

>>730109454
here.....

>>730109339
Now that you mention it, if magic is possible then yes if they deserve it

Do you eat meat on Lent?

>>730109286
I meant to say >>730108099, sorry.
>>730109535
No problem.

>>730109480
If he died on Good Friday, that means he rose on Monday. So why is Easter on Sunday?

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>>730109480
Op here I agree.. There about..

Which means Good Thursday > Sunday
Or Good Friday > Monday..

I am not a big fan of Istar. I celebrate Passover and the Last Supper..

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>>730109594
....>>730109677

>>730109620
Is that a question beyond the abilities of the OP?
>>730082966
>>730109341

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>>730109937
I am OP I thought I answered it?
Here..
>>730109677
>>730109732

>>730109454
Thanks for answering, if I knew how to heal people with magic I would do it so I feel like God wouldn't see me as a bad person as long as I don't curse or harm people. So yeah I would follow Jesus' ways in terms of magic such as making miracles happen and healing people if it were possible. But I wouldn't go on and try to make myself look like I want to do this all for attention

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>>730110182
Did you ask or see this?
>>730098916
I answered it here >>730099176

>>730110111
Did you answer the second part? Why is the holiest day of the Christian faith not on the correct day? i.e. Why is Easter on Sunday and not Monday?

God is not real. We are by-product of evolution, chain of unpredictable events. Just look at us, we have animal instincts, we are nothing more than multicellular organisms stranded on a rock in space. There is no life after death and there is no meaning of life.

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>>730110372
Men in funny hats.

Why is Christ's birth celebrated in winter?
Instead of summer when Shepherds were actually in the field. I mean John gave us the exact date of his birth by mentioning that Elizabeth's husband was at a very specific feast. The Jews have records of their feast going back several thousand years.

>>730110484
Your are pretty confident.

But hey if you want to be Monkey offspring and worm dirt feel free.

Please note I am using a stereotypical metaphor of evolution here. I realize that the whole gorilla ape thing is disputed..

If God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent why do bad things happen to good people? Why did the Holocaust happen? Is it because God couldn't stop them, wouldn't stop them, or just didn't know?

>>730110680
We are what we are. You can't deny all the similarities we have with animals. Even some of them show some kind of intelligence, so we are not special snowflakes.
People who believe in god think that they are special, unique, that they have free will and consciousness, that they are above all animals on earth. This is nothing more than being selfish. And I thought that it is a sin.

>>730110484
Are we in "The Matrix," then? Do you have any tips for how one can better than their station or their own situation in this great and grand simulation that is called "life"? What if one is having a personal crisis?

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>>730110936
We are in Gaole this place is not a vacation spot. It is a lesson all must be born and die. Your particular lesson may differ slightly on the in between stuff. End of story.

The Holocaust had to happen there could not be a really large group of true jews here in the end of days. Hitler foolishly thought he understood Revelation 2:9 or 3:9. Instead he fulfilled Prophecy. (I don't know if that will save him from hell though. Murder is Murder.)

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>>730082966
I want to know. Whats the ultimate argument for Gods existence for you ?

>>730111075
I do believe that we live in a computer simulation. The fact that we can describe how the universe works purely with mathematical equations means that we will be able to simulate our own universe in the future. Have you heard of things like speed of light or Planck length? They are fundamental constants, just like in a computer program.

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>>730111017
Animals are Gods creations too.

There are different classes of Angels.. apparently? Cherubim, Archangels, , etc.

Serving spirits busy as bees..

You and I are what we are..

I am grateful to and for all forms and functions.

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>>730111075
"The Matrix,"

Well no.. I mean Aliens or Neo these are just stories we are told to muddy the waters.

No this is life and death awaits us all but only once! It is really horribly complex to explain all this.

I heard a guy on Art Bells Coast to Coast once who was speaking of ANgels and God and Christ. He had it so very right.

Then he said "God is a mushroom."

I think I missed the left turn at Albuquerque.

To steal and pervert a line from Michael Strazinski.. Truth is a 3 edged sword. There is Your Truth, My Truth, and The Truth. Rarely do the 3 ever meet.

(OK He said Understanding.. Still..)

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>>730111282
That when I preach and some one is not meant to hear what I say they fall dead asleep in an instant.. When I chat about matters of faith with others in person I always make sure they are seated comfortably..

I tend to shoot truth about like a madman with a 12 gauge.