sup /b/. Time for another Columbine Thread. What makes this one

>>729948896
clearly shooped

If the shooting was on April 20 1999 when was that red yearbook put out? Is there anything about them in that one ?

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>>729949292
Clearly.
>>729949330
The yearbook was mostly finalized at the time of the shooting. There was an insert that was printed, pics coming.

They've got their photos in there, but no, nothing really of the shooting in the body of the yearbook.

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>>729949330
and back a few pages

Not sure why I had two student IDs that year.

>>729948896
ever considered selling this set on ebay? might fetch a decent price

How did you make it out?

>>729948896
Do you believe in God?

Fake and gay

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>>729949969
Someone asks me that every year.
Considered selling it? Sure.
Would I ever do it? Unlikely.
Worth more to me than anyone else, since i'm in all of them.

>>729950051
I was one of the first groups out, actually.
Was in the cafeteria at the time, in the armpit of the iconic staircase surveillance cam photo. When the first explosions went off, everyone pushed back towards where I was sitting. One of the janitors opened the doors to the auditorium, chilled in there for a while. One of the stoners that I was sitting by kept saying "this is the craziest 4-20 ever man..." when we were in there.

Eventaully, janitor w/ radio contact to office heard we were clear from the doors we came in, out tthe foreign language hall... group I was with ran out there, across the street ,and itno the park.

My mom kept a ton of papers/etc, highlighted shit from that day. >Pic related.

I went to a high school with the initials chs and I had a student teacher in my geometry class who was at columbine during the shooting. He claimed his girlfriend was shot and killed.

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>>729950295
kek, no.
What's kind of funny about that whole thing, what was it ... cassie's challenge or whatever? Us as a class were shielded from a lot of that bullshit.

>>729950572
So we sat out in the park across the street for a bit. We had ran across Pierce just as the first first-responders were arriving, so the road hadn't been barricaded yet.
More groups of students had run out to the park, eventually there was another large explosion, panic, and everyone in the park scattered back into the neighborhood.

I had a paper route in that neighborhood, kind of knew the area. Chance, fate, hand of god, whatever... I knew one house was a police officer's house. Wife had the front door open, was calling everyone in from the street. Stayed there for several hours, watching the news on the small TV in the living room.

Phone lines were hard to get at the time, switch was overloaded... cellphones weren't a thing in '99, so I had to try for a while to get a line to let my parents know I was okay.

Late that afternoon my dad was finally able to get through the traffic jam/barricades and pick me up.

kek, bunch of old post-its from past threads i've done.

Did you finish out the year at Chatham? My long ago ex GF went there but I'm an oldfag so she graduated when they were in middle school.

Rachel's storie.

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>>729950564
no u

One thing I remember, image burned into my mind, as I was making the corner around the vending machiens in the cafeteria, between the auditorium and business/specialed/language hallway.... In front of the pepsi machine, a bomb had detonated. Big black mark over two floor tiles, and the bottom of the machine had busted out. Fire alarms were going off. Didn't remember seeing any sprinklers at the time.

>>729950574
Considering the number of high schools across the country, and that there's only 26 letters in teh alphabet, leaves a better than 1/26 chance of having that acronym.

School was ~2000 students, so it's certainly possible.

Did you ever meet the shooters before they did it?

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>>729951761
>Chatham
wat

Chatfield.

There was a few weeks while the district figured out what to do with 2000 students who no longer had a school to go to. Students/staff were busy grieving, processing what happened, funerals/remembrances, etc.

Eventually the district decided chatfield students would go in the morning on a shortened schedule, they'd move out and columbine would move in for the afternoon on a shortened schedule.

Not much work got done in general... some teachers wanted to pick up where they left off like nothing happened, others were a lot more laid back and let the students decide how to finish the year.

>>729948896
where the jews involved?

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>>729952150
Never personally.
I was a freshman when it happened, they were seniors.
Outside of my class the only group I really associated with was in the band. H&K weren't in the band, so I didn't know them other than another face in the school.

>>729952317
Sorry about the mixup. We broke up like 23 years ago so my memory is a bit hazy. Fuck, OP is actually on the level and not just a morbid collector.

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>>729952559
I'm sure they were. 14/88 HAPPY BIRTHDAY HITLER GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW, etc etc.

>>729952629
kek, it's always kind of a weird feeling to me, seeing columbine threads on /b/. Being that close to it, first hand experience and all.
>and here I am, posting a picture of myself on /b/....

how were their names used in the town and in the school after?

why didn't they omit them from the yearbook?

Do you feel traumatized from it or is it just one of those fucked up things that are just part of life? How surreal was it going back for sophomore year?

How are you going to be remembered or want to be? Rampage and suicide by cop?

>>729953260
shit that pic is morbid

>>729953260
Just seeing the goth chick on the photo makes me feel so fucking old....

honestly, how close were you to dying

>>729953535
Not OP, but pretty fucking close had those bombs gone off. Remember this was supposed to be an OKC not a mass shooting.

>>729952150
Hey, faggot OP, you havent answered

>>729953535
>>729953688
I meant by them i.e being shot

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>>729953725
>>729952150
>>729952606

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>>729953344
They were just "the columbine killers". Biggest thing was "15 deaths" or "13 deaths", wanting to keep the two separate from their victims.

But they were still students - no reason to omit the content in the yearbook, and besides, it had already gone to production by the time the shooting happened.

>>729953365
I (and I think most of the students) handled things pretty well - better than the staff/parents did. Innocence of youth, different world view, having peers to work through the trauma with, whatever... My mom took it a lot harder than I did.

Sophomore year, being back in the building (granted after a major overhaul) was a bit of a relief, we're moving on, and a little emotional.

>>729953434
None of the above? I feel like the sports I participate in are what's going to be the end of me.

>>729953478
I'm sure if you really looked into the psychology of things, that event is a reason I carry.

>>729953889
Know any of the victims personally?

Dude in black shirt toward the left above pink shirt girl... why the fuck is he screaming? Also MFW I think I just saw my ex's little sister in your class photo. Parents must have moved because they were off Ken Caryl or whatever it was called and went to the other CHS.

youd still think theyd omit them from the same yearbook as people they killed

>>729948896
Did you know Rachel Scott? What a cash cow she became afterwards

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>>729953511
There were a couple of goths, handful of stoners... bunch of jocks, being a college-prep school in middle suburbia. Handful of nerds, I was a band-geek.

>>729953535
Hard to say, really. If the two had shortcutted through the auditorium I don't know that i'd have made it. If their propane bombs had gone off ... again, hard to say with where I was, as far back in the cafeteria as I was.

I've never been in a situation like it since, but I also have a little bit of an advantage should I ever find myself in a similar situation, knowing how I react mentally to that stress.
And the fact that I'm usually armed now.

>>729953725
Hey, faggot anon, >>729952606
>>729953839 thxbro

>>729954095
this

do you remember any of the teachers that got shot

i think i saw this thread a couple years ago.
is this you?

anyways, weird.
the Columbine leaks of 2005 are what brought me here. Police pic leaks or something, some security cam leaks, some police evidence pics, some candids that the police gathered from the days before, with shooters caches of arms before the shootings etc.

I heard about leaks, 10 minutes later found out about 4chan, and thats what brought me here.

now its the traps that keep me here, j/k

>>729954816
you kept the transcript?

keep going op this is fascinating

>>729954129
Replying to self. Nevermind just looked her up on Facebook. She graduated from the other one.

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>>729954095
Not really. None of them were in the band.

My sister was best-friends with the sister of one of the ones killed. They kind of had a falling-out not long afterwards. Their dad is a major anti-gun lobbyist. Fuck that guy.

>>729954632
No, but I kinda knew her brother. He and I were both at the 10-year class reunion.

>>729954716
It was just the one, and no, I didn't know him.

>>729954816
Probably. It's about every other year I do a thread like this on 420 (dude weed lmao).
When I'm bored/drunk/whatever and I see a columbine thread pop up, sometimes I shitpost in those. That's always fun, "yeah i was there", "bullshit", >photos.

I heard about 4chan from an IRC channel early in my college career ... >don't forget, you're here forever.

>>729955179
Glad you're enjoying it. I hate what /b/ has become lately. Don't be cancer.

>>729955081
nah, i didnt do things like screen caps and shit back then, still dont. i live in the moment when seeing crazy shit. no let this thread go back to OP, I will just mostly lurk like I tend to do

was the school haunted afterwards

Show us a picture of you

>>729955330
why not just use the yearbook pics

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>>729955432
I do, mostly the ones I took over. Fun going back over the >TOASTING IN EPIC BREAD posts sometimes.

>>729955207
Columbine and Chatfield were (still are, I guess) the two big ones in the area.

College was nice... I was just another cowboy.
When people would ask where I was from, it was usually just "Colorado".
Then "Where in colorado?" - "Littleton".... that's when you could see their curiosity pique - "like, columbine?" "yea, like columbine."

But most people were fine with just "Colorado".

>>729955915
Not that I noticed. The rebel always kinda creeped me out though.

>>729956018
hello.jpg

>>729956028
wat.jpg

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>>729948896
Happy Birthday Hitler!
Gift of OC Music and video

https://youtu.be/5oHLu6HkDHY

>>729956217
whats the rebel?

>>729955330
I have a lady friend whose really into this shit. Can you time stamp with "Lillian is a cunt" or something please. If not its cool. But everything is worth a try to impress some pussy.

I had some dad or uncle of one of the victims come to my school and talk for an hour or so a few years ago. Normies were crying and shit, it was terrible. Is there any immediately noticable lasting effects on the school/community? Columbine jokes are already really annoying, do the kids there make them more often or is it a sensitive subject?

so did school just start as normal next school year? did anyone mention what happened the next school year and on the 10th anniversary?

what did you do that night

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>>729956459
Big life-size doll/mannequin in the main hallway.
>Pic from my 10-year class reunion

>>729956482
Nah, this is more of an "ama" than /r/.

Like I said in >>729950994, as a class we were insulated from a lot of that aftermath/fallout bullshit, "plz no bully", "b friends lol" unicorns-and-rainbows nonsense.
As a class, we bonded pretty tight after that. We had just been through a major, world-wide broadcast event that would change history.... we didn't really need that preachy shit. It was kind of weird how much we were forced to mature.

As far as the community goes ... Today, it's been long enough there really isn't much mention of it anymore. There's the "Columbine memorial ---->" signs outside clement park, I ride by the school every now and then (still live in the area). About all you'll see now is a quick news story "remembering the 13" on evening local news. Usually some remembrance events at the memorial today. I didn't go.

>>729953478
I didn't think it was morbid. Ironic maybe, but after what OP said it makes sense it's like an talisman in the photo.

was their ever a trenchcoat clique again after this? I mean, that stupidfuckery still exists fashion-wise, but now those same types of guys switched to fedoras, I guess

>>729957168
Interesting. Thank you, anonymous. See you next year.

>>729957168
was the statue there during the shooting

>>729957093
this

Indeed, thanks for sharing OP. If anything you prompted me to look up an ex girlfriend and I have never actually done that. Goodnight /b/

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>>729956634
More or less, yeah. Library was still under construction, but the building/atrium had been gone through and restored/cleaned up.

By that time, most people had gotten over the grieving and just wanted to move on. New class of freshmen moving in, hard to say but I'd imagine they felt a little "outside the group" talkign with upperclassmen. My senior year graduation was the last of those "that had been there" besides the staff, so that was kind of tough for teachers/admin.

10th anniversary was a little bit of fanfare, lots of reunions/memorials.
I know I have a newspaper clipping from the "10 year" event, but I'm not sure where it is. I'll keep looking. It's somewher ein here... .

could you wear a ttrenchcoat in columbine after?

>>729953889
Woah... "we remember anon for being ok at sports" Real cool bro.

>>729958511
hahaha

what did you do that night

>>729958327
how much of a change was there between the old/new school

>>729953260
Wait. I can't sleep. You never told me what the fuck the guy in black above the girl with the pink shirt near the base of your magazine is screaming about.

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>>729957093
>>729957792
Not a whole lot, actually.
When my dad came and picked me up, it was pretty much straight home and kept watching events unfold on TV. I think we had spaghetti for dinner.
Lots of hugs from the family, and just time to decompress and process what had happened.

Phone lines were tough to get for a few days, and with dialup at the time email/internet wasn't really an option either. Over the next few days there was a lot of calls from family/friends making sure I was okay.

>>729957446
>>729958388
Trenchcoats were b& after that. If it existed, it certainly wasn't the same as it was "before".

>>729957708
Yes. It's a survivor as well.

>>729956634
Found 'em. They were after the senior class graduation. Might not have them from the 10-year.

>>729959073
I cant see it

not op

>>729959521
was it was BIG as it was made out to be.


I mean shit it was huge for everyone not at the school. but sorta just feels like yeah just another graduating class with a few kids that died that year.

>>729959521
when was the first inkling you had of what was going on?

what first alerted you to shit going down? did you manage to grab someones tit as people piled your way?

>>729959589
Third row. Left side. Looking closer maybe that's just the SPED class?

>>729959521

when you heard it was eric / dylan were you like. oh that makes sense ?

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>>729948896

>>729960147
op here, someone farted

>>729948896
Were you a scout? I haven't really read much on the topic, but the shooters weren't scouts were they?

what were eric and dylans friends/aquaintences like after?

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>>729958937 see >>729959521

>>729959060
Cafeteria/library was the biggest change, structurally. >pic related
Classrooms were mostly unchanged, but the fire alarm sirens were all replaced (>muh ptsd), new paint in the halls...

During the time we were at Chatfield, students all made some tiles. The idea was to have all the hallways with a row of tiles the graduating students '99-02 did. There were bullshit special-snowflake, "Religion doesn't belong in the schools!" so rather than separate out tiles that had any "religious" symbology (I'm sure the word you were looking for was "symbolism." What is the ssss-himbolism there?), they just said "we're not doing the tile thing anymore, what's up there is going to stay but nothing new is going up".

>>729959073
wat.jpg

>>729959882
It was a big thing. Sort of a "holy shit even rich white suburbia isn't immune from this kind of violence" thing. Guess I didn't really get the magnitude of it for a month or two.

While we were at Chatfield, there was a row of tables in teh common area for donated stuff.
These tables were overflowing. Backpacks, markers, highlighters, notebooks, pens/pencils, calculators, paper, binders/folders, all sorts of office/school supplies donated from all over the world.

Lots of sympathy cards on the wall as well, probably not unlike what deployed soldiers get from schools today.

>>729959939
>>729960080
Huge puff of white-gray smoke outside. Being a freshman I really didn't know the whole "senior prank" thing, like was this normal? When everyone in teh main part of the cafeteria rushed back towards where I was, I knew this wasn't what a senior prank was... but I didn't know how big it was at the time either. Survival instinct kicks in.

>>729960161
Didn't really know them, so no.

>>729960505
Tiger to Eagle. I don't think they were. Definitely not in my pack/troop.

>>729950994
but cell phones were a thing in 99. One was a big piece of evidence in the "Serial" trial. Howany people actually had them? Or were they just not a thing in Colorado yet?

>>729960823
Where were you when the shooting happened? Did you hear gunshots? Did you hide and where did you hide? How was the evacuation carried out?

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cOLOMBINE WAS A FALSE FLAG OPERATION FAKED BY THE CIA

ERIN HARRIS AND DILSN KLEBALD ARE RADICAL ULTRA zIONIST PLANTS

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LOOK INTO THE RACE OF THE BABIES FOR MORE EVIDENCE AND

in the videos everyone sorta hides under tables before some teacher in a white shirt ushers everyone out where you were sitting, do you remember this?

>>729961408
>>729961408
>>18914623 link to webm

>>729959882
Dude imagine sitting 12 kids in a room, and then imagine their entire lives. Think about how many years that is, taken away by two stupid fucking cunts.

>>729960331
sad truth.

>>729948896
Why didn't you join them, you fucking nigger?

>>729961076
it's too bad OP got trolled out of the thread. I would have liked to have had an answer. Thanks for sharing OP.

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>>729961076
Well, sure, they "were a thing", but nothing like what you're used to seeing today.

Maybe 1 in 20 students had one. And we're talking those old-ass Nokias, with the black/white dot-matrix screen that played Snake ... Texting wasn't even popular at the time.

My connection to the internet at the time was a 56k modem. Did have "broadband" at school, but its use was highly supervised. Whitehouse.com was a porn site back then....

>>729961204
I was sitting on the concrete bench in the elbow of the stairs seen in the surveillance cam photo everyone's seen. From there, I ran back behind the stairs and into the lower doors of the cafeteria.

Thought I had a better pic ... might have been on my old phone.

>>729961266
kek that's a new one.

>>729961408
Maybe? Don't htink I've seen that video ... but yes, hiding under tables was a thing. Some staff were helping/guiding the mob of students in the cafeteria, but even they didn't know what was going on.

>>729961685
Pretty much.

>>729948896
Did you know Steven Curnow? I played soccer with that kid in middle school. He was one of the kidz who died

>>729961408
>>>/x/18914617

>>729962455
so this is the stairs that leads to the cafeteria in the video?

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>>729962332
Still around, just looking through old photos and totes full of shit from my school days.
>lol elementary school sex ed

>>729962520
Kinda, but again, not really "friends", just classmates. Knew him better than some of the others.

>>729962172
I'm pretty sure if 4chan was a thing in those days, the two of them would have been on here.

>>729963040
Yup.
Behind me in that photo are windows that overlook the cafeteria. Prior to that, it was the entrance to the library.

>>729957168
The Rebel's seen some shit, man.

>>729963132
You have terrible handwriting lol. Is it still that bad?

>>729963132
so that cafeteria isn't the original cafeteria?

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>>729963132
>Behind me in that photo are windows that overlook the cafeteria. Prior to that, it was the entrance to the library.

>>729963168
Hah, yea, I guess you could say that.
Don't know why it always creeped me out, but the idea of it being there never sat well with me.

>>729962965
damn, those are legit. Most of hte other ones i've seen weren't.
>>>/x/18914623 - 10sec into that webm, that's the first rush of people. I was just on the lower left of the frame. Fucking a.... first time i've seen that footage.

>>729963685
I agree, the thing creeps me out too and I'm just seeing a picture of it, couldn't imagine seeing it in person every day. Odd thing to keep there.

>>729963685
how did it feel watching back that footage?

>>729963685
why the fuck were the white hats such a trend? jesus christ I never realized SO MANY people had them on they're like blue jeans common

>>729963685
so the old cafeteria is the new library?

This is a really cool thread. OP I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to post for us.

I'm sure it must be uncomfortable thinking back to this. I feel uncomfortable thinking about my HS days and I wasn't even involved in a shooting.

did the school have much higher security and more searches of students lockers/backpacks after the event? or was it more lenient letting everyone grieve after all the smoke settled?

in webm 5 theres a guy crawling round the cafeteria floor. its bizarre

>>729964493
I noticed that too and it kinda freaked me out.

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>>729963291
see >>729948896
I suppose ther'es a reason I write in all-caps block letters when I do have to write. But I can bang out 100wpm+ on a keyboard, and as an engineer I really don't have to hand-write that much anymore.

>>729963417
It is, but it'd been remodeled.
The horizontal supports were the floor of the library. That floor got knocked out, library became an atrium in the cafeteria. New library was installed on the upper level off the corner near the gym.
>>729964099
No, the old library is now the atrium of the cafeteria.

>>729963990
Fucking crazy seeing the footage in that /x/ thread. Honestly my first time seeing that. >and they will be saved

>>729964096
wat.jpg

>>729964225
Not really "uncomfortable". I've moved on, it's a part of my history. Don't really like talking about it to people I don't know fairly well, and when I do it's usually one-on-one.
I've got a coworker who's big-time prepper/gun-nut ... got to talking guns one day, he carries, i carry, blah blah, "what got oyu into it?" ... my reply was "Got some time? Let's go to the conference room and talk..."

>>729964225
Have to agree with this. One of those hidden gems in this shit board.

>>729963685
How do you see the stigma of the event evolving years down the road? Five, ten more?

Still in contact with anyone from the time? Is it still impactful on you, as a permanent scar, or just a distant memory?

Appreciate your presence friend. You are always welcome here.

looking up at that atrium where the library was is creeping me out...

So what ever happened to the parents of the killers? Did they just disappear from the town or are they well known still living there?

so the library was directly above the cafeteria?

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>>729964367
After the event there was all kinds of talk about "how to prevent this from happening again".

Metal detectors at all the doorways.
Clear backpacks.
Uniforms.
Those were the biggest ideas thrown out there.

As students, we nearly unanimously disagreed with all that shit. Nobody wanted it - it was just shit brought up by the "good idea fairies" - administrators sitting in the district offices, parents worried about their kids, etc. Knee-jerk reactions.

We just wanted to be high school students, doing high school stuff, and not live under a microscope.

Obviously had a lot more support/resources in the school in the years after that - better cameras/surveillance was installed, more police/law-enforcement presence, and there was almost always mental health professionals there for both staff and students.

>>729964548
kek, thanks. Like I said earlier, i've been here a while and I kind of hate what this board's become.
I think the stigma has plateaued - it's not going to get any better, or any worse. People have moved on, several of the staff have since retired, principal's retired. The memorial will be around for a while, but it's not really in "public view" from any of the streets - have to go back into clement park, and from the parking lot it's maybe 200yds of brick walkway to the memorial itself.

Still in contact with some friends, but by and large i've moved on. I still live in the area, every now and then I run into someone ... classmate working at the deli at the grocery store... 3rd grade teacher recognized me at a restaurant a few years back, that was kind of weird.

Can't really say "for sure", but I know in a way it's part of the reason I carry and shoot law enforcement quals every now and then.
Could kind of justify it to myself that I don't want to be defenseless should I ever find myself in a similar situation. And like I said, having been through an event like that, I know how I'm going to react.

>>729965076
>>729965002
>>729965243
all these

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>>729965002
I think they (district, admin, architects/construction team) did a pretty good job with it.
Didn't have the resources (financial, real-estate) to doze it and start fresh, so they did what they could with what they had.
I think the removal of the library was a good idea. Really don't think anyone would have been comfortable going in there after what happened. Today it might be a different story, but back then? Fuck no.

>>729965076
They're still around. I think one of them recently had a book published. Never really followed up on that aspect.

>>729965243
Correct.

>>729960823
>students all made some tiles. The idea was to have all the hallways with a row of tiles the graduating students '99-02 did. There were bullshit special-snowflake, "Religion doesn't belong in the schools!" so rather than separate out tiles that had any "religious" symbology, they just said "we're not doing the tile thing anymore, what's up there is going to stay but nothing new is going up".
Pic related. Up in the front hallway.

Be kind of interesting to see if those are still up today, or if that's changed.

>>729965853
answer'd

>>729965282
I suppose that makes sense. Cant say I know how I would react. Closest I got was hs a couple years back in my theater class. There was some report of a loose gunman in the area so the school went into full lockdown and everyone hid. I was hidden with my like 8 classmates and our teacher in the prop closet. We were all oddly close but that's theater for you. There was swat teams crawling the roof and clearing the halls and shit. I didn't feel worried, so much as interested and "alert" if that makes sense.

Seems to be that post columbine response and such. You inspired our perception.

Visit amy other boards?

theres one kid crawling round in the cafeteria on the floor in video 5. that's creepy whats the story?

so most shit went down in the library? why there?

thought they were going to wait outside and pop people off when they ran outside. why did they enter?

incredible thread

what was it like walking back into that school for the first time

op do you realise how close you came to being kill?

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>>729965989
One of the more interesting aspects, looking back on the incident, was seeing how people react differently to that stress.
Some people just freeze, unable to process what's going on. Completely locked up, ctrl-alt-delete type of shit.
Other people panic. Dude I was in the auditorium with, "This is the craziest 4-20 ever man... craziest 4-20 ever..." Wouldn't shut up.
I was definitely confused, felt that "fight-or-flight" kick in, a bit of that herd-mentality, but at the same time I was still thinking things through. Before you get to the doors to the auditorium, there's a bathroom. A few people ran in there, but I knew there wasn't an "out" - once you're in, the only way out is the way you came in. Auditorium gave me not only the door I went in, but another behind the stage near the kitchen area, and two on opposite halls on teh upper level. Many more options there.

Military trains some of that into you, but at the same time there's always people who just mentally can't cut it. I was never military, but with some of the work I do now I work with LE/fire/med and the occasional military teams.

>>729966400
Correct. Not really sure why, especially since they targeted "the jocks".

>>729966894
Their shit was fucked. Things didn't detonate as expected, including a large propane cylinder IED found later that day in the corner of the cafeteria. They waited for that to go off but it never did, so they made entry with "Plan B".

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>>729967230
We got a tour of the building after it had been cleared, but before the major renovations had started. Bullet holes hadn't been patched yet, there was still glass in places where windows had been blown out. Some crime-scene markers were still up.
Weren't allowed in the library though.

It was nice, comforting I guess? Not really the right word for it... to see what went down and the extent of the event.

The more emotional day was the first day "back in class" at Chatfield.

Distinctly remember my band teacher holding back tears saying to us "It's really good to see all of you again".

Sci teacher (kind of a bitch, cheerleading coach (and fat as hell, kind of ironic) really didn't care for me as a band nerd) wanted to pick up right with class like nothing happened.

Spanish teacher was still working through the event mentally. First day back, first 5 minutes of class, she's telling us how much better this school is protected against another attack - how the room we're in had exterior windows for an escape and the hallway to the door could be barricaded a lot easier than the columbine room could.
I had an "uhh ... that's weird" reaction to the rest of that class.

>oh look i'm in this pic too

>>729967590
How am I supposed to know or judge how I might hypothetically react in such a situation, outside of being in it?

>>729967590
are these the infamous stairs?

>>729948896
Thanks for sharing man

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>>729967894
I would say military training, or some sort of "survivalist" scenario.
Push that stress level beyond your comfort zone, and throw in the thought of extreme pain/injury/death if you fuck up.
Been a few times since where shit goes sideways ... fall back on training and emergency plans, manage the scene, and deal with what happens.

In college I got into rodeo. It was always a source of amusement to me when the big "tough guys" - wrestler, football-player, "jock" type wanted to give bullriding a go. You're in chute 3, use my rope/glove, put this vest on, here's a quick run-down of what's gonna happen... and even vs. 2000lbs of angry hamburger, some of these "tough guys" couldn't handle it mentally. They'd probably do fine physically. And other people enjoyed the hell out of it.

>>729967940
Yup, that's the ones.

>>729968536
Just reaized it's 0145 and I still have laundry to do ... fuck.

did you see any of the dead?

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>>729968950
I was one of the first ones out. Closest I got to "the action" was between the auditorium and business/special-ed/foreign-language hallway, before going down the foreign-language hall and out the door at the end. That dumped out near the student parking lot, from there it was across pierce and to the park across the street.

>>729968926
I was actually thinking of joining the military. Most likely the Navy for a comp sec job. Thoughts? Suggestions? And as far as survival shit goes, I'm not sure this counts given the desired job path.

>>729969361
what happened between those

>>729969361
aren't you lucky then? weren't they waiting outside

>>729969361
did you ever see eric or dylan getting roasted for being ugly faggots

What are these videos you guys are talking about on /x

>>729969887
have a look on x.

links on here

rolling for 9's

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>>729969387
Go for it.
Past two technicians i've hired were military - nuke and an avionics tech. Both great, able to figure shit out, and both have excellent stories. And they're a lot more motivated than most of the other applicants.

You'll still do basic, weapons, maybe SERE. DI's have a way of weeding out the pussies.

>>729969685
That's where ...see >>729951856
Didn't really look towards the main part of the cafeteria to see what was going on. But:
>>729969778
Right.
Fortunately the janitor had a radio, other staff including security watching the cameras had a general idea of where the shooters were. Janitor was confident enough to unlock the doors and usher out that hallway.

>>729969887
see
>>729962965
These vids are legit.
Columbine threads in the past, there's been links posted to "library footage" - those aren't from columbine. Chairs were wrong, desks were wrong, layout was wrong.

>>729969998
You're the cancer i'm talking about. Kys.

>>729970114
Have any opinions on a foreign service such as the IDF?

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>>729969778
>>729970114
fuck, read that as "aren't you lucky they weren't waiting outside".
Alcohol and motherfucker it's 0200 already.... this thread's going on 4 hours...

I think they had made their way upstairs before we exited the auditorium.

>>729969857
Negative.
There was bullying, but I wouldn't call it bad. No worse than middle school was.
Definitely changed afterwards though. Kind of weird how all the groups/cliques disappeared, everyone was a lot more friendly/supportive. Maturity for sure.

Seeing as youve been a situation like this and you have the first hand experience, do you think there are any effective ways of preventing a school shooting?

>>729970452
did you ever have and secondhand experineces seeing them do basically anything

>>729970765
not OP but the anger causing the shootings stems from not being taken seriously. bullying alone isn't enough to spark outbursts like that, it's more about the exclusion and everyone treating them like they're tards or not able to have a human conversation

>>729970765
great question

did you hear any gunshots

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>>729970765
If someone's intent on causing harm, they're going to break laws to do it. More laws isn't going to fix the problem.

Awareness, openness, and a general change in attitudes among the population is what's going to fix/improve the situation. Realizing someone has the motivation to carry out something like that, then either stepping in or escalating that to someone who will. Mental health care in this country is very broken, and all this special-snowflake, safe-space, omnisexual-pangender-whateverthefuck nonsense isn't helping.

Right now ... granted, I'm kind of a proponent of firearms as a tool for "the good guys" - This "gun-free zone" shit has to stop. If a teacher's willing to go through the training and carry a firearm, i'm all for it. And nobody has to know, nor should anyone know, unless there's an incident where lethal force should be applied.

>>729970777
Negative ... ? I guess?
No, I never saw anything juicy. I was one of the first ones out.

when did you first find out people had died?

how did it effect you

>>729950574
Couer d' Alene? Come chat with me m8.

>>729970777
I think he means in your time there

>>729971468
Well said, OP. Well said.

>>729971644
This.even something arbitrary like them talking to someone to performing in the talent show

>>729948896
I love oral history. Would you be willing to make a recording of the events that transpired?

>>729971468
Do you know if that girl who died in the library really shit herself?

>>729971783
do it OP

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>>729971416
Yeah, that and explosions.
First big boom came from outside. In the cafeteria there were a couple more explosions/gunshots. Kind of hard to tell what was what, but when it's loud enough to hear inside an auditorium, it's big.
And once I had made it to the park across the street, there were a few more small explosions, then one bigger one that sent everyone running back into the neighborhood.

>>729971477
Had a pretty good idea the way things were going down that there'd be multiple injuries, possibly fatalities.

>>729971477
Deaths were confirmed a couple days after the event, once everyone had been accounted for, building cleared/made-safe and bodies ID'd and next-of-kin notified.

>>729971644
>>729971723
Again, kind of a poorly-worded question, but ... no?
I was a freshman, they were seniors. They weren't in the band, so outside of my class and the band I really didn't talk to anyone in the other classes.

>>729971783
yea nah. I like text, since I can put a little more effort and description into what I want to say and how I want to say it.
I did the phone interview with the sheriffs investigator, that was good enough for me. And a handful of one-on-ones with friends, a coworker, family, etc. You won't find me standing in front of a group of people telling my story.

>>729971836
Wouldn't surprise me. Bodies are gross after death, human or animal.

>>729972147
did you ever cry op

whats it like being so close to death?

did you ever revisit that exact spot you were sitting in when it happened?

Would you say you have any signs of PTSD at all, even though you didnt see the bodies, but maybe from finding the noises you heard indicated that people were dying, seeing the sense of panic in your classmates faces, etc

>>729972147
Did you see any blood after the event when you revisited the school from the people who were killed outside and such ?

there were people killed outside, how far away from the bodies where you when you left the building

>>729972705
And also, how have you changed since the event?

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>>729972878
this, can you tell us on this map?

the girl was shot on the grass by the next pic where theres a boys body laying there

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>>729973084

>>729948896
Nice, you're the 2nd survivor I've seen on here.
I created a thread about Columbine a few years ago and a dude posted his class ring and yearbook + his experience like you've done.

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>>729972419
Yeah. Overall I took things pretty well.

For years my mom had a hard time when she'd hear sirens near an intersection in town just south of a police substation.... she was at that intersection when she heard what was going on.

Death isn't something new to me, I know it's going to happen to all of us at some time but ... "I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want it to happen tomorrow."

I know I had a pic looking down at the bench I was sitting on, when I was at the reunion. Think it was on my old phone. Can't find it on this machine right now.

>>729972736
Negative, all that had been cleaned up. And we weren't taken into the library, that was still off-limits.

>>729972878
>>729973084
Complete opposite corner of the cafeteria.

>>729973000
nice trips
Finished out HS. Went to college, where I got out from under "the microscope" of columbine - I was finally just another student. Graduated college. Went and got my carry permit, train somewhat regularly (not as much as I'd like). Always been rather "head-strong", but as I've said before, I know a lot better than most how I'm going to react to a situation like that.

>>729972878
>>729973084
>>729973140
>pic related

>>729973284
Nice, I missed that one. Never got the class ring (did go for the letter jacket (lettered 4 years in band, kek)).

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>>729973084
fucking kek, found this gem from an old thread...

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>>729973623
>Think it was on my old phone. Can't find it on this machine right now.
Getting closer. I have a filename now....

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>>729974029
motha
fuckin
win

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>>729974197
In the sunbeam, where the french fry is on the floor. Pretty much right where I was.

Man it's gonna be so fascinating when the Sandy Hook kids are old enough to recount their experiences in interviews with magazines they always do that shit. It'd be even better if they came on here or something similar

>>729974197
what is it

>>729974197
>anthropomorphic cartoon porn
>mac
wow, did the shooting cause you to become a flaming faggot?

>>729974315
so right by where they would have come down the stairs. you got lucky op

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>>729974401
The file I've been looking for since >>729961204

>>729974444
>quads

>>729974548
Right, but they came in from the student parking lot. Again, opposite corner of the cafeteria from where I was.

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I missed all the Columbine threads today, there were none anytime I got online

and I love him but I can't talk about it on social media because I already look crazy for other reasons

NEW THREAD
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>729974273

>>729975200
love who?

>>729974762
in the videos don't they walk down the stairwell with the French fry?

>>729975249

newfag much?

>>729975404
don't bring your shitty cancer in the best thread on /b for years

>>729975200
why?

how can you love an evil cunt like this

i don't remember hearing anything about this in britain but my thoughts on those days are flip phones and tits

all that mattered to me back then
guess that could be called luck

>>729975888
how old were you, britfag here. I rember everything

>>729975957
15 then i think, maybe a year ether way

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>>729975888
>>729975957
I know GB/EU knew about it at the time. Saw cards/letters and got donations from there, as well as austraila.

Shit's boxed up, i'll put it away and throw it all back on the shelves tomorrow.

As usual, been a fun thread.
I'll be lurking for a bit.

>>729976086
was/is a good thread

maybe it was mentioned more than i remember but i probably didn't care enough to listen
teens wouldn't care if the other side of the world burned

>>729976086
>>729975888

It was all over the news here in the UK. I remember fuckers blaming music for influencing them.
It was like a flash back to the days of playing LPs backwards for hidden messages.

Thanks for the thread OP and the nostalgia feels.

>>729976086
Wew, read all the questions you answered and your answers. Glad I stayed up tonight, most mature I have ever seen /b/, except the couple of "fake and gay"s

britfag here. I remember the trenchcoats being mentioned and marylin manson a lot too

I was just getting home from school in my last year before university

after what happened in dunblane It was everywhere

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>>729976413
Welcome to 4chan/b/. I'd be more surprised if that shit wasn't posted.
Place had much better content and less retoasting years ago.
>when gore threads were decent
>bring back snacks
>DONUT PENIS

>>729976551
I still blast KMFDM, Manson, Rob Zombie/White Zombie, Rammstein, et al. sometimes. Noone (except the neighbors who get to listen to it unwillingly) really cares what kind of music you're into.

Pic unrelated.

have you read the basement tape transcripts op?

>>729976910
they tried to ban manhunt in britain because a murderer used a screwdriver
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1468088/Manhunt-computer-game-is-blamed-for-brutal-killing.html

its just people looking for a tangible reason or a petty excuse

it didn't get banned because it would be pointless same as banning music

what a thread

Actually read start to finish. Really good thread.