What's stopping you from starting a family?

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I've given up all hopes of ever having a gf. Even when I was a small boy, I was socially awkward.

>>729806003
no wife and too poor to buy one

>>729806003
Nothing. I already have 3 wonderful white children and a beautiful German wife.

>>729806151
did you every try to fix it?

>>729806003
Already have one. 2 daughter's and a nagging wife. It's fine I guess.

>>729806275
You can't fix it. It's in my DNA. It's nature's way of controlling population.

>>729806151
i used to be anti-social and autistic with people but it all faded away as i started talking more with randoms online on voice. just confidence is all thats needed

I'm too crazy and have bad genetics so I'm not having kids. My wife is on birth control now but I am getting snipped.

>>729806390
>i started talking more with randoms online on voice
>>729806390
how did you find them?

I don't have a place in my home to store a child. I don't like children. I am unsure of my ability to financially support a child. My wife is old enough that the chances of a child turning out tard is raised.

>>729806528
basically by just playing multiplayer games and just adding people that I liked playing with, from there its comes naturally

>>729806003
I couldn't bear the responsibility. I own a business and make pretty good money, but the idea of supporting a household for 20 years is terrifying.

Add to that, having any woman, much less the same woman, at my house, every single day when I come home, expecting me to watch the fuckin bachelor or some shit, is a fate worse than death.

>>729806544
I assumed most 4chan users would prefer a tard child.

>>729806003
for starters I would to have a partner
then a partner willing to have intercourse
then a partner interested in children.
on the abstract:
Be fiscally solvent
Have a private safe shelter.
Being mental stable enough to even care for myself let alone another human.
Be in a healthy relationship that with something I could depend on
I have none of these

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Ive had a GF for 5 years, only issue so far is time and money, but its gonna happen

Got to find the right one first. I think I have, just got to knock her up

I have a lot on my plate right now. I don't think im ready for this.

anyway, me and this girl broke up and we started seeing other people. a while back. We started talking again, and decided to get back together. she just found out shes pregnant with his baby, and i don't know what to do. i really love her, and i feel.... idk how to describe it.

i feel like im about to help carry a cross i had no had in creating. her ex is a psycho, and she doesn't want the kid around him, and she doesn't plan on telling him. she plans on moving to another state with me, and i could use the change of pace. am i cucking myself or what? im giving up a lot for this girl. i don't know if im making the right choice or not.

wut do, /b/?

>>729806003
I still like doing exciting things unexpectedly. I also don't earn that much and sometimes take a couple of months off of work to do things that I want to do.

>>729806003
Been there, done that, they're all grown and gone, just stopped in to say that OP's video is fuckin' cute af!!! Gave me feels!

>>729806003
Women dont want to have children these days...

>>729806283
Are you me?

i already take care of too many kids.
I dont think adding mine would do any better not to mention that i feel the need to give on my genes.

>>729806003
Never found a girl worth even considering settling down with. Not sure if I've even been in love before.

Plus I have a feeling I'd either be a great dad or a really bad one.

>>729807357
I have grown kids too.

They should have taken that puppy away as soon as the little bitch started crying.

>>729806003
because I have never met a woman willing to have a family outside of the constrictions of monogamy.

>>729806283
>2 daughter's


Did you exercise your right to stick your dick in them yet?

>>729807657
>so fuckin' edgy
I guess I'm secure enough with my emotions to openly appreciate her tears of happiness and gratitude.

Getting married in September, so I think the fiance would like to fit into her wedding dress, then we need to find a house to live in, that's probably going to cost a bunch of money, then I still have about $130k in law school debt that at my current rate I won't have paid off for another 7 or 8 years. I'd like to have my fiances at least reasonably manageable before we start having kids.

So mostly timing and finances I guess.

>>729807858
Nah I just follow them around and take pictures of their butt. Maybe pop a boner during cuddle time.

>>729806003
Because I'm a twisted motherfucker yet to meet an equally fucked up girl

>>729807177
you are being used

>>729806003
I'd be breaking my parole the moment it was born.

>Immature personality
>depression
>not wanting to pass weak genes along

That webm made me sad, though. God is a mean guy

healthy monthly income

>>729808323
honestly, i kinda feel like it. me and her met up a few months back and we ended up kissing. she sent me this text saying how much of an asshole i am for letting her kiss me, seeing as how i knew she was dating someone, and how she never wanted to see me again.

the other day i messaged her just to see how she was, and she dumped all that on me. she didn't even want to tell me she was pregnant, because it would "change my mind."

idk man. my head is just fullof fuck.

>>729808027
>appreciate her tears
mmmm

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>>729807073
Good luck anon!

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>>729807177
run away
you don't have to pay for her mistake
you can find someone else
you will feel this way about someone again, in time

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>>729807177
>>729807177

You disregard the cunt and acquire government provided currency so you can fap on /b/ until you die alone.

>>729808972
As the other anon said, you ARE being used. Believe me, I've seen it too many times with friends and relatives. She's a psycho and will end up making your life a living hell!

>>729806385
Underage detected.

>>729809218
>you will feel this way about someone again, in time
right after i broke up with her i did, but a similar situation happened. im cucked for life.

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>>729809014

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I struggle with the meaningless of existence, and I think it would be selfish to bring another child into existence, just to satisfy some desire to have a purpose. Like what would I even tell my son? "Hey bud, have fun trying to find happiness in this shitstorm of a world!" Not to mention that after two weeks of fucking the same broad I get bored and have to move on to the next. Family just ain't in the cards for me

>>729809466
keep trying anon
your dubs will see you through

i don't have a way get out. when i was at a hospital i keep getting cockblocked by another asking about a friend of mine.

>>729806003
because it isn´t worth bring children to this shitty world, there is no future anymore

It's fucking annoying and boring and you can't do what you really want to do. Fuck little kids, they kill the joy in your life.

I'm ugly, beta, and broke.

Birth control

>>729806003
The jews ruined our women.

Married five years to a great woman.

Keeps telling me we are going to have a kid.

I keep telling her I don't know what she's on about.

I feel a bit bad about it but I know I never want children, but I don't want to lose her over it either.

I'm just not ready to be a father and I'm already in my 30's, so I don't imagine I ever will be ready.

I just don't see myself as a father.

I love my wife, but I don't think I will ever be ready to give her the child she wants.

doesn'tfeelgreatman.jpg

Shit personality together with the fact that I'm a social retard is why I don't have a gf, and I kind of need one of those for a family.

>>729806268
BLACKS OUT!

Can't afford it, and don't really care for it at the moment.

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>>729806003
that pic is awful. because the way the parent keeps putting her hair behind her ear (so it doesn't cover her face) is thinking "I want as many Facebook likes as possible because my daughter is crying from happiness!" is despicable to me.

>>729808972
Seriously man, just let her go. Sucks in the short term, but very very smart in the long term. And then you have baby daddy drama on top of it too? Yikes. Just don't.

>>729806003
I'm so going to do this when we get a dog in a few years. My kids will be so happy :)

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>>729809673
>Fuck little kids
Best reason to have a family!

>>729809876
if you do, just make it about your child's happiness. not about filming it for internet points.

>>729807177

I always think that if the person you are attempting to care about is the type of person to do something such as hiding a child from their father, then you should consider their capacity toward such behaviour and whether it will affect you in the future.

>>729809708
let her go then. you're just a selfish little boy, and you're preventing her from being a complete person.

>>729806703
You don't need to get a shit tier bachelor watching woman you know.

most people here prefer to fuck little kids than to raise little kids LOL

>>729809562
That's okay, fam. No woman would want to touch you because of your moobs anyway.

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>>729807177
DUDE WTF
shes using you for your provisional ability

ALPHA FUCKS; BETA BUCKS and YOURE her BETA BUKS

wake the fuck up Anon!

>>729806745
You must be new here.

>>729806003
Waiting for some medication to clear out of my wife's system. She got really sick a while ago and had to be on strong antibiotics that can linger for months. Starting for a kid in Early June.

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>>729807177
feel like you are carrying a cross?

you are not some sort of cuck martyr. it's simple. you like her enough to handle being a 'father', or you don't, and end things. simple decision. your not brave, or deserving of credit, for being in that position.

>>729809869
>And then you have baby daddy drama on top of it too

shes not telling him. the dude is legit insane. supposedly, he held her in his house and wouldn't let her leave, and when she had him arrested, the police couldn't charge him because of his mental issues.

while i do believe she was held, i do not believe the police wouldn't lock him up. the deal is, she got pregnant when she went to bring his dog from her house to his house. so she was either raped, or she fucked him willingly. and if she was so traumatized from being captive, why go back? something doesn't make sense here.

>>729807177
Just don't. Seriously...

>>729806703
>Add to that, having any woman, much less the same woman, at my house, every single day when I come home, expecting me to watch the fuckin bachelor or some shit, is a fate worse than death.

This right here. I'm 34 years old and have never had less desire to be married, in a serious relationship, or even date. Women my age are stupid baby crazy cunts and rapidly losing their looks. Kids? Fuck. That. Shit. This isn't sour grapes because I'm awkward or ugly either, I'm decently good looking and in good shape with a killer job.

>>729809562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98AJUj-qxHI

>>729807177
Is the ex hot? If not, dump her. If so, maybe hope the kid also comes out hot and then, when it turns 18, dump the girl and marry the kid just to spite her. You can do it because it's not technically your kid.

>>729808373
Kek

>>729806003
I've lost all interest in finding a gf. I'm too much of a social outcast and I despise socializing. I'll just live my life and have my own adventures.

>>729806003
I'm unemployed and single.

>>729808098
kill yourself

>>729810142
Lol tru that mane

>>729810142
>Implying you can't do both.

>>729807177
>>729808972
>you break up
fine

>she is with another guy
fine

>blames you for "letting her kiss you"
fuck off as if she had no responsibility for that

>gets pregnant from other dude
too bad bitch sort it out yourself

>didn't even want to tell me she was pregnant, because it would "change my mind."
she knows she has nothing to offer you and is pretty much asking for your wallet at this point

>about to help carry a cross i had no had in creating
your guts tell you truth anon

>ex is a psycho
classic alpha fucks story. she made her bed but now wants to drag you into is with her

>she plans on moving to another state with me, and i could use the change of pace
>i could use the change of pace
sounds like this isnt your idea but her suggestion. if so, DO NOT DO IT

>am i cucking myself or what
yes


PS check the alimony laws in whatever state you're in/ she suggested. in some places just living with a woman makes you legally and fiscally responsible for their children

holy fuck Anon sort your shit out

I have fun seeing other guys raising my children instead of me lol

>>729806003
The fact that I'd probably end up fucking my daughter(s) and/or son(s) and I'd rather not die with that in mind.

>>729807177
never be a patsy. even though you've convinced yourself this woman is special, so's the next one. if she gave two shits about you, she wouldn't be dancing in someone else's jizz.

>>729810275
you assume shes being an above-board player in this game

protip: she's not

>>729809859
Despicable to you, I'm sure, but I'm guessing that's only because you're looking at it from your own warped and socially immature perspective. I've seen similar videos of my nieces and friend's children, and for many of us, that's one of the great things about social media platforms like FB, etc... the opportunity to share in the happiness of those we love. I think that video is a beautiful thing, and see absolutely nothing despicable about a mother wanting to share her daughter's joy.

>>729810000
Obviously I wouldn.t post it online. It would be for me to watch when I'm old to remember ny kids happiness and the day we brought MR.Doggo home! I have no urge for Facebook likes m8.

>>729810275
i was just making an analogy. how should i have better put it? in a way it bothers me because i was a product of a similar situation, and i grew up pretty fucked up for most of my childhood because of it. i didn't help that my mother was an emotionally abusive cunt, but it would kill me to see a kid suffer the same way i did. i don't want sympathy, just kinda telling you my reasoning.

>>729806268
This, but 2 1/4 Chinese and 3/4 White children, plus 1 on the way, and my wife is genetically Germanic, but not properly German.

>>729810096
Fucking this. He's too childish to fulfill his most basic biological duties then he doesn't deserve her.

I just don't enjoy the prospect of having a family. Possibly due to the fucked up environment I grew around and also the fact that I always make a mistake in choosing the women I date. It's just not for me, at least that's what I've convinced myself.

>>729809997
LOL! I would SO love to know that this was real, and what the story was!

>>729811174
https://therationalmale
.com/2011/08/30/there-is-no-one/

gay cant reproduce

>>729807177
>>729808972
read this
>>729811457

>>729810284
>something doesn't make sense here.
yeah, the part where you give her a speck of attention

>>729811010
>she plans on moving to another state with me, and i could use the change of pace

honestly, i've been wanting to move for a while, but everything you says seems to be pretty true....id hate to admit it, but i really think you're right. it kills me to say that, it really does. fuck man. whatever. ill stop messaging her and go back to what i was planning on doing anyway... thanks guys.

>>729810284
on top of all this why keep the baby
she's fucking crazy dude

ghost her

>>729806003
Me and my wife don't want kids. We don't hate them or anything; but raising them isn't exactly on our to-do list.

I got the vasectomy and am 26. Sperm in the bank if for whatever reason we want to re-consider.

Plus the wife won't consider abortion; and I'm not doing adoption; so we can both be happy; well... took one for the team.

Sex without condoms is nice.

>>729811446
girls can't just be flirtatious sluts?

>>729806003


SCARED I WILL FUCK THE CHILDREN/

>>729806003
No one loves me

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>I don't want one

>I don't have a partner

>I'm extremely ugly, poor and anti-social

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>>729809524

>>729812031
kek

>>729811856
If you wanted to move that's cool but DO NOT take her with you.

Don't tell her where you're going. Don't even tell her you're leaving. Just ghost her.

and read >>729811457

>>729812035
why should someone love you?

I just started my adult life two years ago.

I'm 26 now.

Pretty self explanatory.

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Snip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah

>>729806003
Need more of this

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>>729806003

In my universe, I did!

If only I could get back there...

If only...

>>729808972
jesus christ, anon. what possible benefit do you see in being with this broad? no one should be so desperate. what does she do for you besides create angst and stress?

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>>729811195
the specifics do not change my point. the decision is this:

do you want to put up with everything involved for her?

your the only one who knows what that involves. we certainly don't. and no one can know enough about someone else's life after a lifetime, much less a single post with a rough idea of your situation.

it's simply this - do the positives outweigh the negatives?

Myself.

I've been dating this girl for close to 6 years now. While planning to get married last year I found out she's legaly married to an Egyptian who uses her name and status to keep his green card (or whatever this works). Now we left each other while she files in divorce and what not.

We're in our 30's now, she told me she married him at the age of 21 (he was almost 40 at the time) to get away from home and didn't know he was using her name for immigration.

These past 6 years were great, but now they feel like I wasted the better part of my life caring for some sandnigger's immigration form

>feelsbadman.jpeg

Not even sure what to do next.

>>729812207
you're right guys. i let my emotions and how i remember things when they we're good cloud my judgement. Not sure where to go from here. I was planning on joining the army to escape my fucked up home life and beyond dead end job, and i looks like that's back on the table. fuck man.

anyway, should i turn the tables on her? and just use her for 8 months of condom free fucking before i bail? shes not living with me, so i don't have to worry about that alimony shit.

>>729806003
Because I don't feel like starting a family

>>729806003
Prostitutes (escorts) and video games.

>>729812828
you met her online. you deserve this.

>>729811253
her focus on the shot is what gives it away though. do you want to go through a really emotional event and have someone walk over and. move your hair / hand / whatever, so they can get a good shot on their phone etc?

She's half my age and no one knows that is my intent

>>729812828
you're in your 30's
if you have managed to hold on to a decent job and kept in good shape, drop this girl and find a nice girl in her 20's

>>729812795
>what possible benefit do you see in being with this broad?
we used to have an awesome relationship, and honestly, her tits are huge. like F's man.

she broke up with me for the most retarded reason, and never really explained what it was. something about "you don't need me because you keep your emotions inside too much and won't let me fucking help you and be your girlfriend."

thinking back, she really did dig her own grave on this one. i was the best thing to happen to her. she fucked herself by leaving me.

>>729808098
I laughed more than I should have at this.

>>729806003
I feel so sad for the stuffed toy.

>>729806003
to be completely honest OP, and I've kept this from my GF of 5 years, I don't wanna have kids primarily because it's hard to find someone with the same fundamental values as me... Politics and Religion are a HUGE thing to me because those two pretty much define character(I'd say a good 75%) and morals... I think It's bad to be in a relationship where bumping heads on these issues is unhealthy.. specially if you're trying to raise children with them.. for instance My GF thinks It's cool to teach kids about Trans and Gay people in k-12... I think that would confuse the shit out of children. I mean ffs look at college kids now, they're supposed to be "Adults" after 18 and they act like fucking retards. I think If it's taught it should be taught in the later stages, perhaps high school.. and that to her makes me "literally hitler" kek. so that's whats holding me back.. I don't think I'll ever find someone with the same values as me.

>>729813367
now don't fuck yourself by taking her back

>>729813496
why are you dating an SJW anon

>>729813541
you're right. but should i play the game back? see>>729812998

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>>729811343
it was just a little grandiose.

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>>729809562
My nigga, we on the same boat.

>>729806003
too many personal demons
working on myself is the only option

The fact that I'm barely a functioning member of society on my own much less taking care of other human beings

>>729813687
Here's the thing man.. She wasn't. Prior to these elections she was Pro life, she was still Pro LGBT and I mean I'm cool with that, it doesn't affect me,,, but then she started going to womens marches talking about the wage gap and alll this bs. and she's pro choice now. and It's college. college is fucking her mentality. she's now taking cancer ass classes in school and Idk if this is gonna last past another year tbh

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>>729812130
IT'S TAPE

>>729813342
This.Your chum is good until youre well into your 40s/50s, plus younger women often like older men so I don;t know what all of you in your 20s and even 30s are so worried about.

I know a lot of you are legit on the spectrum or have debilitating social anxiety or whatever, but if you are (or have the capacity to be) a functioning adult (which i imagine the vast majority of you are/could be) there is no reason you can't find happiness and secure a mate. Just put some fucking effort into it and don't be so afraid to fail.

>>729806283
>nagging wife
thanks for the reminder / warning

>>729811027
least you're honest

>>729806003
Artificial wombs when?

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>>729806003
DA Jews

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>>729814066
>college is fucking her mentality
before and after a semester at college

>>729814066
RIP her previous self
inb4 you get accused of rape

>>729806003
Are jew fucking kidding me?
They are a pain in the ass.

>>729814453
what heart attack are you on now? 44?

>>729814727
JESUS is that really her?

>>729813219
Again, I would tend to balance all the various aspects/factors... (1) the little girl was so lost in her emotions that she probably never even noticed. (2) Little gestures like brushing a daughter's hair out of her eyes are so second-nature to a mom that she was probably just doing it from habit. And even if not, if she was, in fact, grooming the kid for the camera, I think the little girl will appreciate it down the line, because a video clip like this one can easily become a treasured family memory 30 years from now, and it's good to be able to see every bit of the emotion.
>just my opinion, we all know what those are like!

>>729814855
judge: the girl was so drunk, she probably didn't notice!

>>729814727
http://www.funnyjunk
.com/channel/anti-sjw/Before+and+after+feminism/twgoLgj/

>>729812998
>should i turn the tables on her? and just use her for 8 months of condom free fucking before i bail?

ONLY, and ONLY if you don't get attached. Look Anon, she doesn't deserve you. The fact that she can put you though all this and you still want her just shows you deserve better. Good luck out there.

>>729814066
it's her life, faggot. find a trumpette if you're so fucking insecure.

>>729813496
>Politics and Religion are a HUGE thing to me because those two pretty much define character
You lost me at religion. I fail to see how our 20th century mythology should have any more impact on "character and morals" than the mythology of, say, the ancient Greeks or Romans. It's all just fairy tales of one sort or another.

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>>729814855
I appreciate your level-headedness contrasting my contrary mindset. we both have won this argument. bravo.

>>729807177
For the love of god, don't do it.

>>729814756
She's not that gone... for now lmao. I'm hoping some miracle will happen because i don't want to waste 5 years like that.. but if it doesn't work then it doesn't work

Not ready for that. I still need to figure out who I am before I even think about trying to date again.

>>729815104
but it's my life.. and it's now or never.halen

>>729806003
I hate kids

>>729815209
>waste 5 years
its her 5 years that are wasted. im guessing you've been improving yourself in those 5 years, gaining income, power and responsibility right? If you drop her you'll have plenty of options.

remember son,
men age like wine
women age like milk

>>729815133
I don't identify with a religion.. however I do believe that religion helps people distinguish right from wrong for the most part. but that's just me

>>729806251
fuck , same

>>729813496
>Politics and Religion are a HUGE thing to me because those two pretty much define character(I'd say a good 75%) and morals
you're a fucking retard, equating morality with religion. kys. hard.

>>729806003
Honestly? I'm afraid of picking the wrong one. I'm also afraid of screwing up what good chance I get. I want to be happy, I just don't want to do anything wrong again.

>>729815133
>religion means belief in an actual god

>>729815454
check out Jordan Peterson; especially his Maps of Meaning lecture series. 'religion' is a tool by which we negotiate with each other the norms of the social game we're playing

already did, my wife and son are doing great. when children smile it's the best thing in the world.

>>729806003
and damn the kids to a more fucked up world to satisfy my own selfish desires in an otherwise meaningless existence?

>>729812998
no. any more time spent is time wasted. move on, find a better scene.

>>729815436
I've been trying, I let go of a lot of shit.. after HS I didn't go to school or worked.. I was just another jobless fag beating off and playing games all day. as of recent I've been working on my health because I gained a fuck ton of weight. education, and I'm making about 4k a month at 21 years old, so I guess you're right

>>729812998
Thats the most alpha thing you've said so far. Good for you. Just don't be played, and you can have a lot of fun with this one. Break her heart the way she seemingly yours.

>Joining the army to escape
Go airforce. Unless you want to shoot shit.

>>729806003
Money
Seriously, as soon as I get my shit together I'm moving in with whatever chick I'm with at the moment(hope it's the one I'm dating as of now) to start having my own kids

>>729815559
>muh tolerance and open to ideas and shit
>religion is not a source of morals, kys

>>729815693
Yes, Peterson is the man, I've been looking into doing his self authoring suite

>>729806151
you fukin retard why you didnt find a socially awkward gf then , would fit
its about compatibility

Studying.

>>729806003
My partner is autistic, life sucked for her growing up and we don't want to put our own kids through the same shit.
So we have 3 fur kids instead, two cats and a dog. They're enough of a pain in the arse

>>729815901
sky father will smite you.

>>729806003
I can't get it up anymore. I'm 42.

>>729812998
Man she might not actually even be pregnant I wouldn't stick my dick in that thing until you've seen the pregnancy test

>>729815693
>>>729815133(You)
>>religion means belief in an actual god
Yeah, I know what religion means. My point exactly. It's mythology, because, in actual reality, there IS no such thing as a god.

>>729807177
If true, fucking don't you dare, you faggot cuck.

>>729807177
push her down the stairs

I've become so emotionally disconnected from human feelings that I destroyed my last good relationship from within. I Can say I loved this girl, I would have given the world for her. But she tried so hard to change so many aspects of me that I wouldn't have been myself anymore, so I destroyed our relationship. I don't even know how to share my life with someone. I'm fucking lonely. I want to start a family. But I ruin good things. I always have

>>729816242
can you prove that? legit question

>>729808972
Don't do it, son. This is what your dad would have told you if he loved you enough to stick around; so, son, don't fuck up.

>>729816027
>>729816242
there is no sky father. we all agree on that

but if you think ejecting religion as the moral structure that we've spent the history of our species refining is a good idea, you're an idiot

i think the ultimate endpoint is a sort of secular humanism as i'm sure you do but bashing religion does nothing to move us closer to that

>>729816160
this is also a fair point. she said she didn't want me there when she took the test (i wanted to be for moral support), but even then, the way her mother used to treat me, i really doubt the response from her mother on all this would be "i just told my mom and she wasn't mad."

im starting to see it more and more guys. i really think im being fucked with.

>>729806003
I don't think she can gett pregnant yet anon.

>>729816462
>This is what your dad would have told you if he loved you enough to stick around

to be fair, my mom doesn't know who my dad is, and my stepdad was in and out of jail all throughout my childhood.

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>>729808323
>>729809218
>>729809331
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>>729816281
seeing anons help this guy out and stop him making a really bad decision.. it brings a tear to my eye.
OP asked What's stopping you from starting a family?

you niggers are my family

>>729806283
do you love your wife?

>>729806385
yah but natural selection would be taking place if you overcame it, retard, it means your resilient which is good

>>729816394
>legit question
Of course not, it's literally impossible to prove a negative.

>>729816463
My point was not to "bash religion" as, I agree, the teachings of many religions do include some sound moral and ethical principles. And I agree with your comment re: secular humanism.
The thing I took exception to was anon's insinuation that religion was a necessary prerequisite for morality. Sorry, just a sore spot for me.

Only girls interested in me aren't mother-worthy

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>>729806003

I'll just leave this here.

>>729806268
How many of them are half Syrian?

>>729817368
that's like super saiyan blue levels of shitting oneself..

>>729817201
>The thing I took exception to was anon's insinuation that religion was a necessary prerequisite for morality
it's not necessarily a prerequisite in this day and age but as a species i think we needed it to get here. what we don't want to happen is to tear it down and leave nothing in its place at all because that is not a good path

>Sorry, just a sore spot for me
fair enough. i've been there /b/ro

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>my pullout game 2strong

>>729816828
Hahahaha sorry, man. But seriously, don't do it and don't "just" use her for sex. You'll get hooked to it and confuse one thing for the other and fuck up.

>>729817461
Gohan was half saiyan and he was powerful.. trunks too.

>>729813171
Met her through a friend but it's all the same, I know her since high school (went to different schools in different towns) and only hooked up later. Result is the same really.

>>729813342
I'm a cook at an hospital, decent work, okay paychecks, enough for me to buy a small house. It's the whole process of meeting someone worthwhile and starting new that's anoying to me. Not like I could go back with her, every time I think about it all I see is a fucking visa with legs.

It's not that I wouldn't be able to get a 20 yo, it's that going through the process seems troublesome.

>>729817201
I'm shit with words, I didn't mean I need religion to have morals, It was a lesser version of what you're saying.. by learning a religion, even if you dont follow it, you pick up morals and I mean some of that stuff is common sense but a lot of people lack it today

Im in high school

>>729812781
Me to :(

>>729807177
The first step is to kys

>>729817687
idk dude, im pretty pissed off right now. and truth be told, shes the only girl i never cheated on. i have no problem using her. not now that i see the light.

>>729817687
Kek

>>729817785
breddy gud 'scuse

>>729806003
I know I'm a shit.

I could only think my children would be shitter.

>>729817697
Kek

>>729807177
In my opinion it seems like she is kind of a slut if she dated a physco. I wouldn't know what to do OP. If you love her it seems like manipulation, but it seems like a one in a lifetim opportunity.

>>729807566
lol are you a tard guard>

>>729806003
i'm only 21, on my way to become a wizard if i cant figure out how online dating works, want a family but gotta put some work into it first.
Also i actualy have asperges (mild autism) but fuck letting it get in the way of my dreams!

>>729818229
kek reminded me of the tard guard greentexts

good times

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>>729806003
i care about me too much

PCOS is stopping my wife and I from having children.

hey guys, my gf of 4 years broke up with me bcuz she started fucking another guy, wut do i do

>>729817660
>as a species i think we needed it to get here
That would be a fascinating discussion/conversation. I respect your viewpoint, but not sure I'm in agreement with it. I don't think we "needed it to get here" necessarily. A less mystical, more humanist moral code could well have been developed, had not there been power- and control-hungry megalomaniacs at the helm, but yes, now that it's been in place for lo these many centuries, I agree, it would be disastrous for it to simply disappear, but damn, I would like to be able to live long enough to see the human race evolve beyond it!

>>729808423
Ur retarded, only thing that makes your genes weak is you (plus a little bit of biology i guess.) It's your fucking choice to have a kid and if you want it have it, don't do society a favor because its a small favor and fuck society.

Cause i'm 18

>>729806268
Boi hitler would be proud

i would have to talk too much

i dont wanna do that much yapping ever

>>729806003
I got some atypical form of azoospermia.
Doctors want to say its sertoli cell-only syndrome but I don't have certain symptoms.
i could POSSIBLY get viable sperm going they tell me but it would take multiple biopsies and i'm both uncomfortable with that and the idea of having children.
Brightside? I got a macropenis and slightly abnormally large testes so it all works out.

>>729817781
No, anon, you're not "shit with words." I fully understand your point, and agree with the basic concept, I just sometimes want to try to push evolution along to get the species more quickly past the need to believe in some "celestial superhero!"

>>729806003
Intelligence and good decision making skills.

>>729818496
This

>>729809562
You can love someone and have sex with other people it's called being open, and life is the only existence that sperm cell will ever have apart from being in your ballsack until you die and it rots. Giving them life is the best you would ever do to him unless you believe life is worth than nothing. In my opinion, if I could experience anything (including pain) over nothing, I would choose anything. Although I have never been depressed longer than maybe a few weeks with a lot of ups.

>>729806003
>Sterility

>>729806003
I've held out 28 years so far (never put my peepee inside a vagina), I can wait another 28 years to find the right woman.

I'm a pretty quiet person who keeps people at a distance until I get to really know a person, and 99% of people never make it to the friend status.

The weird thing though is that I'm perfectly fine with this.

>>729818545
>That would be a fascinating discussion/conversation

its exactly that discussion i was hoping Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson would have on Harris' podcast. hopefully it will happen soon

as someone who's a long time follower of the four horsemen (RIP Hitchens PBUH lul) Peterson's ideas are something I havent considered at all. devouring his lecutes like nothing right now

>>729809673
>You joined a thread about kids just to tell people you hate kids

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>>729807177

You seem to equate your ability and inclination to care for, and empathize with, another human being as unconditional love proper. While this is commonly held to be a hallmark of all healthy romantic interpersonal relationships, another way to view it may be that you have found yourself to be an imagined solution for a problem that you have no true claim (or stake) in. Blindly accepting your imagined role as a savior under the banner of true love and affection--while ignoring the myriad social, financial, and personal challenges offered by this particular position--is not a unique phenomenon that will give you meaning in life. Rather, it demonstrates a level of magical thinking that may ultimately end up being more harmful to you and your proposed family unit.

You and her cannot simply flee your current stations to "start anew" in another state without considering the serious strain and perceived sacrifices that will be necessary to ensure even a modicum of stability in the future. I strongly recommend you do not betray your own happiness for moral standing and an even unhappier future.

If you are truly that important to her, she will keep in contact if you were to gently disengage yourself from the obvious calamity ahead.

I want kids but i dont find any women attractive, and if i get some rando preagnent she'll end up with the kid and my money...

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>>729809708
Be a man and tell her you're scheduling a vasectomy.

My wife freaked out for a few weeks, but years later still agrees it was the right thing to do.

>>729806003

money and fear of death

also my GF is too much of a bitch I can't imagine being anchored to her.

I'd have to actively try to pursue women. And w/ my looks and age, I'm mostly only pulling reasonably attractive women, if they already have kids.

>>729817962
Don't be malicious. Look, you see you're mistake, and you dodged a bullet. Just move on.

>>729819256
still assuming she's a rational actor in this secnario

>>729809708
idk what to tell you, if you dont want kids you dont want kids and I'm not gunna tell you you should have kids. But sometimes you'll never be ready, that's how it is for a lot of people. So if you ever see yourself being a father that loves his children, and you like that, I say go for it. But if not, rip lol

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>>729807177
You're fucked, ditch it. I lived in a duplex with a guy that a chick did the same thing and had a psycho ex and after having his baby, the guy that lived above fucked her 2 weeks after and was prego with his kid then when he was about to kick her crazy ass out. Also he used to date her way back in the day hahhahahahahahaha lmao youre fucked unless you make the right decision here, but if you question yourself saying "it wont be that way" and talk yourself out of things allot an second guess youre cucked. Goodluck sir

>>729809760
lmao same

>>729806003
It's a shame really. Finally have tonnes of cash but I have run out of time trying to find an hospitable environment... A fresh start. So now I am MGTOW to protect myself from gold diggers.

>>729807177
Don't be a cuck my child

the fear that i will crack and sexually abuse my children

>have been fapping to shota and loli since i was a kid
>cant beat it to anything else

>>729819492
MGTOW is a bit extreme imo. just awareness of Red Pill truth and knowing where the pitfalls are can help you get what you want in life

>>729816463
>>729817201
youre a retard
nobody ever except maybe 90> IQ people thought of God as sky father
ever heard of metaphysics euphorric autist?

>>729819411

Correct. This would be the "best" case scenario: that she is a rational, non-malicious actor. Even with this very generous caveat, this is an order that suggests magical thinking on OP's part.

If she is a hostile actor--beyond merely unreliable or incompetent--then the caution I urged would be even more prescient in avoiding future unhappiness.

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Kids be crazy
That's why

>>729819693
>youre a retard
>nobody ever except maybe 90> IQ people thought of God as sky father
ever heard of metaphysics euphorric autist?

youre the retard

>>729819767
fucking this

>>729819139
>The weird thing though is that I'm perfectly fine with this.
That's not weird! Well, maybe it is, who am I to say, but if it is, then I'm equally weird.
>There are two kinds of people in this world, and I DON'T LIKE 'EM!!!

>>729806003
I want a reason to start one, first

>>729819693
present an argument dumbass

or at the very least a coherent sentence

>>729806003
I haven't found the right one yet, most of the girls i know are fucking crazy manipulative control freaks or already have kids also i get depressed and feel like just ending my bloodline with me

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>>729811405
Childish is feeling bound to basic biological urges when most of us have evolved beyond the animal

>>729810222
I was born on June twelve. I hope he is concieved on this date and you have identical retarded twins just like me.

I fucking hate having to deal with kids because they're spoiled little brats who don't appreciate shit. I was one, all the ones I know are, andI come from a long line of parents who couldn't handle their shit without lashing out at their kids. Also I have the worst genes (diabetes, skin cancer, terrible eyesight, moles, and obesity to name some). I've never managed to even get a girl, I have paranoia issues and lots of doubt all the time, and my family has a history of divorcing their first spouse whom they had kids with. Oh and also my anti-social skills, general ugliness, and history have added up to me not being able to even be trusted nor trust anybody.

>>729820042
>evolved beyond the animal
we really havent

>>729819632
im right with you pal. But if you want kids you gotta be strong.
I have alot of close relatives with kids and test my resilience with them, you should try the same if you have the oppotunity.
Otherwise you can talk to one of thouse call lines, that have helped me more that once.

>>729806003
i would fuck the daughter

>>729819693
>nobody ever except maybe 90> IQ people thought of God as sky father
>nobody ever except maybe 90> IQ
>nobody ever
>EVER
For chrissake, anon, not that many generations ago, nearly every major government was controlled by the church. So you're saying that none of the great kings, pharos or other monarchs in history would have measured over a 90 IQ???

>>729807177
Don't fucking do it, anon! For the the love of all that's holy get the fuck out of that cucky situation. Don't raise someone else's bastard! A woman cannot be honest with you with a bastard in her. She's only acting on instinct now. Wants a beta male provider for as long as your resources hold out.

>>729819693
IQ confirmed <75

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>>729819911
Checked your repeating digits.

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>>729820392
alpha fucks, beta bucks in action boys'n'girls

you sir are a gentleman and a scholar

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>>729807177
I truly wish this is bait, but sadly is not I believe...

Nut cancer :,(

>>729820724
dont worry, the bros in this thread helped him
>>729816874

>>729807177
100% probability of bait.
But still.
My advice is this:
Get away from her.
You can always fall in 'true love' with another.
I promise.

>>729821406
bang on
>>729811457

alright boys, here is the deal. im pretty sure shes fucking with me. you guys have talked sense into me. thank you.

with that said, this chick has pretty big tits already, and they're only going to get bigger now that she is (supposedly) knocked up.

im gunna hang around in this thread for a little longer, i shall return with nudes. i don't know when, but shes coming over on thursday so we can talk about things.

it may not be this week, but i will get pics of this chicks rack for you, and if i play the game long enough, ill document the growth. ill do what i can.

til next time, boys. thanks again.

>>729812828
They're technically married, so she inherits his assets if he dies, yes? Could make for a nice wedding present if he were to meet with an unfortunate accident, no?

Although, would suck if he had a lot of debt when he went. For her, but not for you.

>>729821694
Stupid fuck.... Just leave her be. You're going to get suckered into something. With that said, tits are always appreciated. Go forth an retrieve, you poor bastard.

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>>729821694
Godspeed soldier. Don't fuck up.

>>729806003
I'm 15, unemployed, unattractive and lurk on 4chan in my free time.

>>729806003
I guess a few reasons. Fear of what I can't manage with a family, fear of not gaining success in my life. Fear that if I start one too early then I can't support it. Most of all, fear that I will fall to betrayal again.

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>>729821694
MFW thats a change of heart if i ever saw one.

Good for you, Anon. It's your turn to take control of this situation. make us proud.

>>729822804
15?

You got time you stupid faggot!

>>729822506
Whats your problem? He's getting his revenge and becoming an alpha. Whats the issue?

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>Poor
>No desire to break my back into wageslavery
>Socially inept
>Considered creepy
>Not the best look

>>729822804
Banned in 3,2,1...

>>729806003
American women are trash. Finding that needle in the haystack seems to be like climbing Mount Everest, Just not worth the effort

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>>729824229
That being said I would to have the ability to raise a child. I've been planning for it since like sophomore year of high school. now 27 and I'm starting to desperate. But God damn, so many gold diggers in cunts or chicks that just wan to fuck or have a baby because "baby crazy". Beginning to think Foreigner's are the only women deserving of my spurm.