Religion of peace at it again

>>729668309
Nothing we can do about it, really.

>>729668461

This,
Sadly.

>>729668309
The write-up on ABC News says something to the effect: "He yelled allahu ackbar but authorities don't know if it's terrorism"... You can't even make up shit this crazy.

>>729668309
He was a black dude not an Arab. Also, he just starting shooting people in the street like Stevie Steve. This is a crazy dude, not a political actor. Get fucked OP

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>>729668309
kek

>>729668854
Kori Alu Muhammad
Just a black guy
Many keks

Holy shit this has been a violent week.

>>729668986
Yeah, 'Black Jesus' here is a perfectly good example of the average Muslim. He probably planned his attack for months, perfecting details with his handlers back in Peshewar. Religion of peace my eye!

>>729668854
Lots and lots of niggers gravitate to Islam, simply because it's another way to say "fuck you" to Whitey. Study a little mid/late 20th century history.

>>729668784
You fuckin' serious?
These people are beginning to piss me off. We need to do something about them.

>>729668461
There is a solution, but it's a final solution.

>>729669129
Black militant psychos often follow quasi-Islamic religions, like the Nation of Islam and shit. They are not recognized as Muslims by anyone but other black militants

>>729669360
i know, refer to
>>729669515

>>729668784
this is why we all need to be clint eastwood from gran torino.

>>729669631
he loses his xenophobia at the end tho... and that was about koreans?

>>729668309
about 3 miles from here. fuck 'em all.

I think we shouldn't judge before we know his motive

>>729668854
niggers and arabs same anti white hate shit.
they'd all be dead without us.
with us, they should all be dead
except a couple black people I know theres a lot of decent filthy niggers out there

>>729668986
his skeleton looks like its got aids

>>729669515
Doesn't matter if they're recognized. It stems from Islam.
And even if he wasn't Islamic, that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't terrorism.
Also, looking at >>729668986 I think it's pretty safe to say he's a Muslim.

>>729669839
Plato/Aristotle other Greek/Roman knowledge passed through the Arab world, travelling along the Mediterranean towards Africa in Arabic translations whilst Europe was in the Dark Ages. This knowledge resurfaced in Europe through Andalusian Spain, k m8

>>729670061
> a muslim
> calls self Black Jesus
Not a muslim. Just a moron.

>>729668309
>implying Christianity isn't significant bloodier than Islam

top kek... ok true believer.

>>729670061
Yeah it looks a lot like he considered himself Muslim, doesn't mean he didn't use some religious bullshit to justify a shooting spree his mental brain was gonna carry out anyway
See - Omar Matin

>>729670265
Because clearly his name and the fact that he shouted "Allahu Akbar" mean nothing.

>>729668309
Why is it always in liberal democrat states?

>>729670061
I think niggers ought to be classified as terrorists anyway.

>>729670486
Yeah and it clearly means that the Grand Mufti was funding him

>>729670365
What has Christianity done in the past 100 years? 50? 20? 10?

Now what about Islam?

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>>729669310
It's only Tuesday nigga just wait.

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>>729670549
Agree.

>>729670503
To turn idiot conservatives against their own countrymen.

>>729670365
If you think Christianity in its current form is more violent than Islam in its current form, your IQ is beyond saving.

>>729670503
Cause here in the south everybody is just waiting for a chance to use their concealed carry gun. Story would be, " black suspect pulls gun and 15 white people open fire."

>>729670393
The fact that they can use Islam to justify their shootings should indicate something in and of itself.

>>729670591
well if America is the bastion of Christendom and the Muslims are trying to destroy you with subterfuge and terrorism, then..
Every war America has had involvement in and the destruction wrought?
Recently? Drone bombing the shit out of a bunch of countries most Americans couldn't name?
Or maybe that's not the case and the situation is more fluid.

>>729670916
And what does it indicate? does it maybe indicate the same thing as when Ted Bundy blamed murdering 50 women on porn?

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>>729670980
>well if
Lost me here you rational nigger.

>>729670486
cos Allahu Akbar are words only muslims can say without the sky falling on them

>>729670581
It doesn't have to mean that. Stop trying to separate this attack from Islam when the shooter himself made that link clearly visible. It's because people like you continually claim that Islam is not the issue that they are capable of continually getting away with this shit.

>>729670980
>if
I wouldn't exactly call America the bastion of Christianity.

>>729671347
and why, out of all fucking people involved, would you let some psycho like this make things 'clearly visible' to you, i'd hate to see what else you do with that logic.
This isn't the Paris attacks, this is a angry man with a gun. You have a lot of them in America.

>>729671587
was playing devil's advocate

>>729671194
It indicates that Islam in its current form is a cancerous ideology that encourages the murder of innocents. If you can't fucking see that, you're living in denial. Islamic terrorists state time and time again that they are doing it because of their religion, but you're too busy saying "not all Muslims" to listen.

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>>729668309
>pick and shoot only white people
police say it's just a random shooting!!!

>>729671347
Or...
Black Jesus leads the crusade against Islam by martyring himself in a false flag attack.
Or...
Black Jesus hates whitey and the government so he seeks to divert their attention to the virgin-raping muslim hordes, making it easier to his subversive black brethren to do their work without scrutiny
Or...
He's a batshit crazy drug addict with severe mental issues.

Just a few alternative scenarios.

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>>729670594
This doodle singlehandedly made me switch from google chrome to Bing

That and I found out that google blocks certain websites from appearing if you search holocaust denial

>>729668309
how dare you insult ISLAM? Burn in hell

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>>729668309
Islam is a crime.
Legally define it as a cult, not a religion.
Then you can outlaw it.
America can make it a Constitutional Amendment.
It's time for the Chicago Way.

>>729668309
Notice how when the Mudslimes shoot people in the US it tends to be in cucked areas. Like in Europe.

>>729671953
Yeah it's a cancerous ideology, but every ideology is cancerous, it's kind of how they work. And nearly everyone actually fighting ISIS are muslims, you ever been to a muslim country or just shit yourself on the bus when you see one?

>>729671656
Because I notice a distinct trend in these attacks. Even if this guy is just insane, the fact remains that most, if not all Islamic terrorists do it because of Islam. So even if this guy isn't a Muslim (which he very clearly is) we should still treat Islam as an issue so that crazy people going on a murderous rampage can't blame it on Islam. If somebody killed ten people and blamed it on Christainity, it would not fly. So why can they do it with Islam?

>>729668309
Wow can't tricked fox news into this. The shooting happened but the whole "allahu akbar" thing didn't happen.

>>729672597
I have several friends who are Muslims, all fled from Isis to the US. I know full well that many Muslims are against terrorism, but there are an overwhelming number that support it. There have been studies and surveys on it, look 'em up.

>>729672677
Because it's a low-hanging fruit. That's why nearly all of the 'recruits' from Australia at least, and probably Europe and the Middle East, are complete, total fuck-ups of human beings. Petty criminals and rapists with a green light to do whatever they want.

>>729672477
>cucked areas
Fresno is one of the most hardcore cities in the US. You're lucky if you don't get shot just walking down the street. It is also one of the only conservative basins in California and is full of alt-right people.

>>729672065
Every fucking time. Every fucking time an attack like this happens, you people feel the reflexive need to separate it from Islam. Why?

>>729672969
I really don't think it's overwhelming, I just think an Iraqi-American might justifiably see the narrative differently than a Texan military family. If it was 'overwhelming', more than 100 would have left to fight from Australia and there would definitely be a lot more attacks here and in America and europe

>>729670503
>liberal
>fresno
pick one

>>729673357
Because some are more connected than others. Paris attacks = very connected
This attack = not at all connected

>>729673053
If that's the case, Islam is the place where these lunatics flock. All the more reason to destroy or reform the religion.

>>729673357
probably because people recognise that reality isn't as black & white as 'cuz of islam'

>>729673543
That may be the case. I don't have enough information to be sure one way or another. But the threat of Islam and the terrorism it breeds is larger than this attack, or any one attack. Regardless of whether this has anything to do with Islam, something must be done about the religion.

>>729673555
No, there were some very smart men in Iraq that used to be part of the Hussein government that used a distorted and apocalyptic version of Islam appeal to western Muslim dropouts. It's not 'Islam' as a place, or entity, it's more complicated.

>>729673591
All too often it is. Have you read the Qur'an? I have. That book contains some really fucked up shit. Islam directly advocates for terrorism.

>>729673543
>This attack = not at all connected
This is a fake news story people. Dude wasn't muslim and never said allah akbar. That was made up by someone and fox news was stupid enough to spread it.

>>729673916
Ok, if that's the case i still don't think there is the need to get all frightened and worked up every time some crazy dude screams 'alluh akbar' to make his massacre cooler. That's what the real terrorists want, that's why it's called terrorism

>>729673974
Muhammad was a warlord. It was about violence from the start. There are some who take a more rational interpretation of the religion, but such interpretations are discouraged. In the Middle East, they teach that any non-literal interpretation is incorrect, and the literal interpretation advocates violence.

>>729669740
It was only about the Chinks because if it was about the blacks no one would believe in the black kid and if it was about the Arabs no one would believe in the Arab gangsters. The shills needed a medium to sell the "we aren't bad till society makes us bad' and the Chinks were it.

>>729674142
I still don't know one way or another. Until conclusive evidence is provided, I won't assume. But again, this shouldn't be used to say "See? Islam is not a problem!"

>>729674455
I lived in the Middle East and this is not true. I have only interacted with Muslims that interpret the Koran 'non-literally', in that it is open to interpretation, not by them necessarily but by accrued knowledge and religious authorities, like in Judaism

>>729674082
I've read bits and pieces, and yes, it is definitely a religion on the warpath so to speak. So while I agree that there is a root problem with their dogma, I try not to let that colour my interpretation of events too heavily. I think this guy has more of a racial supremacist thing going rather than jihad

>>729674455
Sounds kinda like what was coming over my car radio when I was cruising through the bible belt.

Only they were talking about some fuckers named Jesus and Satan and how dudes like me were going to burn in eternal hellfire for premarital sex with loose women and boozing and swearing and shit unless we became Christian Soldiers or somesuch

>>729674197
No.
You're basically saying that somebody yelling Allahu Akbar as they massacre civilians is not an indication of intent, while more often than not it clearly is.

>>729674825
Where in the Middle East?

>>729674773
I'm not using is to say 'Islam is not a problem!', OP and others are using it to say 'It is a huge problem!', which seems illogical given that this seems like a regular shooting with 'alla akbar' attached to it by a crackhead. It's not proof of anything

islam cancer

>>729674946
Yes, Christianity is also very flawed. Their book doesn't tell you to kill all non-Christians.

>>729675018
yeah, i'm saying it's not always the case. this guy obviously thought the same thing as you, that's why he yelled it.

>>729675127
Jordan, also Palestine and Oman for a little bit

>>729674893
Fair enough. I can respect that.

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>random act of violence

hah!

>>729675352
You are correct in that it's not always the case. But it can be used as an indication of intent. It's not the case that most lunatics going for a high score will shout Allahu Akbar. Some do, and those are exceptions.

>>729675712
I think this is one of those exceptions. Like another anon said this looks like racism more than terrorism, extreme black Muslim ideologies are often Anti-white, tying more into America's racial troubles than Islam. And there are a lot of 'lone wolves', whose to say how many of these fuckheads weren't just gonna do it anyway and blame it in Joy like Stevie Steve?

>>729675291
We talking old testament or new testament?
Cos yeah, old testament had a lot of burning and smiting and 'not suffering to live' of quite a few people.
The new testament was written by a bunch of olde worlde sjw pansies and took out a lot of the hellfire and brimstone to make the religion more marketable to the sensibilities of the time.

>>729670581
How many more?
How many times does this have to happen before you see a problem?

How many more infinitely complex and varied people have to do horrible things while spouting the same propaganda as the other Muslims before you ask where these people are coming from?

You leftists preach equality and understanding yet act on it with ignorance and callousness. Blindly accepting others as equals will be the wests downfall.

>>729670980
America is secular. None of the conflicts have been religious on our side and we don't have state-sposored, religious terrorism. Having a high population that is Christian isn't the same as being a Christian nation, like there are Muslim nations. Our conflicts are entirely political, and our politics aren't based on what some religious leader or another says, but based on the interests of our nation and its allies.

>>729676423
probably talking new testament, because that's sort of what defines christianity. Jews are the ones who love the old testament. all these damn sand religions deserve each other, I hate them all equally (maximum edge).

>>729676715
the sub-human racist who perpetrated this attack is not my equal and I am not a leftist.
>How many more infinitely complex and varied people have to do horrible things while spouting the same propaganda
They are always angry dudes with other problems and motives, except in a few cases in Europe where they were actually funded through Syria, not that infinitely complex.

>>729672164
How about no. We already criminalize the behavior we can't abide, like murder, rape, and child exploration. What we need is a way to prevent criminals from entering the country in the first place so prison overcrowding doesn't get worse. Also, drug use shouldn't be criminal because it's a waste of taxpayer money to keep putting those offenders in prison. Maybe we should reinstate banishment, as well, for repeat offenders, on penalty of death with no chance for appeal. I'm more than willing to allow innocent people to die for the greater good. If you can't follow the rules, get out or die.

>>729676771
You do have religious stat-sponsored terrorism -

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/world/middleeast/us-relies-heavily-on-saudi-money-to-support-syrian-rebels.html?_r=0

>inb4 'joo york times fake news not read'

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>>729668854
are you illiterate or just fucking retarded?
op said nothing about blacks or arabs, he only spoke of islam, which this guy was clearly part of.
and hes not just some "crazy dude", he's a muslim following his religion.

get fucked you libcuck piece of shit apologist

>>729676771
Also, what do u mean 'Muslim country'?
Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, Jordan etc are all secular governments backed by America?

>>729677670
eh, read further down the thread there m8. the argument has evolved

>>729677486
It has nothing to do with religion for us. We sell weapons because money, not because "God wills it". We don't fund rebellions because we have any stake in the religion, but because we want someone taken out without getting our troops killed. Usually the one getting taken out is gassing their own people and won't lower their prices for us. Most of the time, it's a bad idea to just throw money at the problem, but the alternative is an invasion, annexing the territory to prevent a power vacuum, and facing economic sanctions from the rest of the world. We can't allow that heavy warmonger penalty, so we interfere in whatever way we can, despite how ineffective it's been, because we can't just do nothing in the face of these high pri- I mean atrocities.

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>>729677800
you don't seem to understand how conversations or time for that matter work.

idc if you said you hated niggers/sandniggers 2 seconds ago, the first 4 posts of this thread had nothing to do with either race. the 5th post was the first post of the thread to bring up either (in fact both). therefor the fifth poster was the one who made this a racial debate. my comment was to the fifth poster, to inform him of what a douche bag he was. idc what the posts say that follow after #5.

understand faggot?

>>729678229
Yeah but the fighters those weapons go to are the actual Islamists, thus state-sponsored religious terrorism. ffs

>>729677743
They're important strategic allies and that has nothing to do with our nation, in a religious sense. It's a political, mutually beneficial relationship. We literally don't care about what their religion is, so long as they don't cross us.

>>729678280
Because that point was extrapolated upon. Nation Of Islam style black nationalist are a lot more concerned about slavery and hating on whitey than Middle-Eastern wars, and that's the type of 'Muslim' we're talking about.

you understand faggot? i know you don't..

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>>729668309
charge your damn phone op

>>729668784
So yelling allahu ackbar automatically makes it terrorism? Is it terrorism if I rob a liqour store and say "jesus christ is awesome"

>>729678604
point i was making is that the only notable 'muslim' countries i can think of (a point of difference between Americans and Arabs you tried to make) are Saudi Arabia and Iran, who are in a proxy-war in Syria/Iraq and the Americans are involved on both side. Everyone is a bad guy, geddit.

>>729678496
We don't tell them to go all jihad and blow up civilians, they go rogue and pull that bullshit. It's state sponsored, in the sense that they're supposed to be engaging our enemy. They usually have an agreement, break the agreement, and we stop selling them weapons and find another group. Meaning we're sponsoring one kind of war, and they ignore it and blow up children. What part of that is state-sponsored terrorism in the name of religion? The part where we want one thing, or the part where these goatfuckers go do their own thing and violate contracts because they're cowards?

>>729679007
Well, that's mainly because we broke up the others, but there is basically a nomadic nation fucking things up that IS.

>>729679033
>What part of that is state-sponsored terrorism in the name of religion?

The part where their stated goal has always been a Caliphate in Syria, pretty fucking religious. And there is not a war in history where the fighters don't 'go rouge and blow up civilians'

>>729679322
broke up the others? what others??? America has kept Saudi Arabia in power if anything. The most religiously strict, fucked up backwards style of government in the world, that have proven to be the hive from which the extreme 'blow them up, cut their heads off' ideology emanates from. Are you fuckin trolling me?

This was a good day

>>729679033
> What part of that is state-sponsored terrorism in the name of religion?

The part where weapon sales continue in the name of the All Mighty God of All Things, He Who Is Known As Shekel.

If I sold a gun to a crack addict who is pretty much 90% guaranteed to use that gun in a robbery but somehow passes a background check, I would consider myself responsible for enabling that action.

If I sold one to an upstanding, cleancut Christian citizen I know from bible study or whatever and they go out and rob a liquor store in search of sacremental wine... well shit. Couldn't have predicted that. I enabled the action but it was a responsible sale.

The moral of the story is not to sell guns to crazy people.

Meanwhile in Australia:
>only terrorist attack in 15 years
>guy takes hostages in cafe
>50% of deaths are from police gunfire
>terrorist only kills 1 guy
>he didn't bring any ammo
>known psycho
>enormous enquiry into how the fuck this munted cunt got his hands on a shotgun

And you Americunts think that getting rid of guns won't solve the problem.

>>729681496
Kinda makes me think the threat aint that big in America. It's so easy to get a gun that if Islam was such a problem, more than 3 people out the 3 and half million muslims in america, over the last 5 years or so, would have attacked. retards, eh?

Holy shit, I live near where this happened

>>729682123
in fresno? i just have this idea of a like the GTA 5 areas that trevor is from

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>>729670503
because taking away guns clearly works