hmm

>>729504704
this is why people don't like stoners on the internet

>>729504704
>grows brain cells
not sure about that buddy

Two of your cannabis factoids are either false or completely untested on a reliable scale. I support the legalization of pot but please don't spread lies.

>>729504704

Cures cancer? Better let all the millions of people working on cancer research know this, they'll be kicking themselves.

>>729504704
>grows brain cells
Wut

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>>729504704
>Weed
>Grows brain cells

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>grows brain cells
if you believe that you are stupid as fuck tho.

>it's not addictive

Okay then stop smoking it

Weed is illegal for 2 reasons..

1. It treats many things that big pharma has the monopoly on.
2. It can be used (hemp too) to make all of the plastics we use nowadays (except it's biodegradable) it can also be used for clothes,rope,fuel and as a building material (that absorbs co2) google "hempcrete"

Now with plants growing to maturity in 3 months it's basically an endlessly renewable resource, can't get rich from that. So now you know weed isn't just for getting high and why it's illegal.

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it's illegal because of the paper and cotton farm lobbyists getting anything hemp-related banned.

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>>729504704
>alcohol
patented
controlled
taxable
medically predictable/profitable

>cannabis
unpatentable
grows freely
see first
medically unpredictable/unprofitable

There ya go speedy.

>>729505767
> alcohol
> patented
No it isn't, but if that were true the owner of that patent would be the richest fucked on earth

>>729504862
it negatively effects cancer cell growth. says so on my CA prescription document

>>729505953
>what are brands

Yeah. definitely is. just not like you understood it

>>729504704
Neuro-psychologist here, it can alter and hamper brain cell growth if used at young ages, after a certain point you are fine though.

>>729504704
I'm all for weed but one thing it don't do it grow brain cells kek more like destroys brain cells and causes mental health

>>729504862
Cure is a bit strong but it's prescribed to as a treatment and is also a good pain killer

>>729505955
>effects
you're a moron

>>729506068
I'm thinking it still "alters" cells after the transition from puberty, just not in a physically negative fashion. Positive results with retarding Alzheimer's

>>729504704
Don't sugarcoat cannabis. Shit isn't all good, but it's better than alcohol.

>>729506232
Luckily the guy who stamps these documents isn't and you still understood me. You're a fag.

>>729504704
I don't care about real laws
Fuck; hierarchies and centralized power, the nanny state, our corporate babysitters, and our bank owners.
The legal system has nothing to do with justice or liberty
Property ownership is theft.

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>>729504704
>weed
>"non-addictive"
gr8 b8 m8

>>729506359
Oh it can be pretty negative. But that's more on the user's predisposition. Compared to alcohol always being bad outside casual use.

>>729504787
*this is why I don't like stoners on the internet

>>729506187
It's prescribed as [spoiler]probably the best[/spoiler] anti-nausea medication to cure the nausea caused by the actual medicine. It's not curing cancer.

>>729506068
do you think the mind exists inside the brain?
I doubt it. I'm a radical externalist myself, the mind is a sign system and the brain remembers and processes it, I don't see cognitive neuroscience being applied to psyches unless we can decode memory and see how our brain uses it

>>729506676
>weed is only anti emetic and nothing else

Nothing else huh? What study did you participate in? Go back to 420

>>729506011
Brands a a copyright or trademark, not a patent.

So it definitely isn't, and you don't even understand what the word patent means

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Look at how hard these fags are raging.

>>729505955
In lab tests it does, but so does bleach or fire

>>729505767
Alcohol isn't patented you dipshit

Marijuana hasn't been legal in all 50 states for over 100 years. Let's do that, or not, an see what the data says. Yeah, I'm sure everyone high and behind the wheel, will be just fine driving. The whole legalization shit is just to tax and generate revenue. This is an old discussion. Weed users don't want it legalized. Big companies will buy the right to sell it exclusively. Quality will go down. Hey idiots, its still smoke in your lungs.
Most people are idiots who have no discipline, and self control.

>>729506011
I feel embarrassed for you anon

>>729504704
I dispute most of your list tbh.

But fair play. In general alcohol is a worse drug than pot

>>729506533
Weed isn't addictive, for it to be addictive there needs to be withdrawal symptoms and a compound in it that your body needs to curb those symptoms.

Cigs have it..nicotine
Alcohol has it
Weed only has THC.. which is non addictive.

>>729504704
this
>>729504787

>>729507251

People who suffer from depression will can actually get addicted to weed

>>729507251
Not all withdrawal is shakes and vomiting.
Different drugs have different withdrawal symptoms, it can be as much as anxiety or irritability.

You can get addicted to anything, anything that releases dopamine or "Feel good" chemicals in your brain.

Must feel good to feel smart on the internet doesn't it?

Also, the brain stops developing at 25, you smoke weed under that age you tamper with pathways, possibly causing mental illness.

Didn't learn that from buzzfeed did ya?

>>729506011
It's dumb fucks like you that make shit up about things they actually know nothing about and state them as facts that make people think stoners are retarded

>>729504704
You can OD from any drug.
Weed reacts differently depending on the subject.
How does it cure cancer?
How does it grow brain cells?

>>729506011
you fucking dipshit
learn to use google

>>729507483
>will

Higher chance, but no guarantees.
Anyone who is chronically "under the weather" can get addicted to anything that suppresses the sadness.

>>729507251
it's a mental addiction
if you're depressed it helps you being more happy which makes it addicting
somewhat similar to sugar

Back to plebbit pls sir

Does not grow brains. It actually creates more activity in the neuropathways..

>>729507511
Nice rant...what did any of that have to do with THC not being an addictive substance?

Oh yeah, you were too busy trying to hurry and respond with insults and deflecting. Whine and cry all you want, THC is not an addictive substance..

Caffeine is
Opioids are
Alcohol is
Nicotine is
THC is not.

Says who? Fucking science that's who.

>>729504704
Oh shit, this blurry .jpg with no scientific evidence linked to back it up totally just persuaded me. You're a lifesaver, OP because now I can cure the cancer this post has given me with weed.

>>729507862
Except very different as it has major psychoactive effects

>>729504704
i love weed and im all for legalizing, but that chart is just wrong

>>729504704

> Cures cancer

Kek is pleased, son.

>>729507862
Sugar is a physical addiction, "mental" addictions are just that, all in your head..aka all bullshit.

>>729507993
Who is science?

>>729507993
Lol

Prove it Mr. Scientist.
If it isn't addictive at all, why do people do it?
What keeps people coming back to it?

>>729504862
it actually kills cancer cells.

I'm addicted and I just can't get enough

>>729507667
you can't OD on weed
if smoked the carbon monoxide will kill you much earlier

if eaten you will most certainly vomit before you reach the lethal dose of ~500mg / kg

>1g weed with 20% = 0,2 or 200mg of THC
>80kg person needs 40000 mg or 40g of pure THC
>you would have to eat 200g of weed, which could be possible but FAR to expensive and very unlikely to happen

>>729504817
It does, but only when you do it from time to time. If you smoke every day, it damages your brain.

>>729508361
gtfo with ur lame bait

>>729508045
>psychoactive
of course, otherwise it wouldn't help with depressions

>>729504704
Its quiet easy to work out actually. One is hard to make and requires times and expense (to make a product worth buying) and therefore can be taxed , the other is a weed that if it were legal NOBODY would bother with alcohol OR tobacco products as it would be growing in huge amounts in everyone's gardens and the government would not see a penny.

>>729507993
Someone got their feelings hurt lol

>>729504704
>weed grows brain cells
It is a well known fact that Newton had a Cali blunt while observing apple trees; his homeboy Einstein wouldn't come out of his room for two weeks straight as he smoked the dankest kush known to man when he had a vivid hallucination of people experiencing time differently

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> grows brain cells
Kek, Fixed.

It's all about the money

>>729504704
If it "grows brain cells" then why is every pothead I know a braindead asshole?

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>>729508251
I don't play the "prove it" game on /b/, that got old about 7 years ago...

Don't give a fuck if you believe me or not, want proof? Go find it yourself faggot. Sure did get you guys triggered though, so sensitive..so angery

>>729508571
>>729507946
Doesn't kill cells they get "overused" and become less active in some way

>>729507993
You're using "addictive" wrong. There's no physical dependence to thc, but people can get addicted to anything.

Kys hippie

>>729508849
Two types of addictions mental and physical

>>729508849
There are psychological and chemical addictions

>>729504704
There should be a movement where stoners/people with dreadlocks get swirlies whenever they manage to creep out into public

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>>729508632
I don't need to, I'm a trained behavioral addictions counselor.
Point is, you can get addicted to anything: Weed, Video games, jacking off, everything.
Why? Because it makes you feel good, and certain things in life don't. Therefore, you do these things to escape.
THC mellows you out, calms anxiety and makes you happy, it's what makes weed "weed" and brings people back to it, same with shatter or any other drug or substance with THC, the human brain self preservative, it doesn't like pain, that goes without saying, therefore, it'll go to what helps to ease said pain.
Just because you don't get addicted doesn't mean everyone can't, everyone brain is different and generalizing isn't facts, its opinions.

tl;dr: You can get addicted to anything that makes you happy.

>>729509019
Like the one where fat lazy nerdz talk shit in their computer but don't do shit on real life?

>>729508943
>>729509002
That's not really how it works.
>Is there a difference between physical dependence and addiction
>Yes. Addiction—or compulsive drug use despite harmful consequences—is characterized by an inability to stop using a drug; failure to meet work, social, or family obligations; and, sometimes (depending on the drug), tolerance and withdrawal. The latter reflect physical dependence in which the body adapts to the drug, requiring more of it to achieve a certain effect (tolerance) and eliciting drug-specific physical or mental symptoms if drug use is abruptly ceased (withdrawal).
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/principles-drug-addiction-treatment-research-based-guide-third-edition/frequently-asked-questions/there-difference-between-physical-dependence

>>729508350
>thinking "cancer" is a disease and not an umbrella term
yea, you dont know what youre talking about.

>>729509207

This guy gets it.

I wouldn't bother though, trying to educate anyone here is pointless.

Ultimately if you really want it legal go live somewhere else, but if you're willing to change your life over a drug guess what, you're addicted.

>>729505508
>big pharma
Tinfoil hat confirmed.

itt weedlmao memespouters vs adults with facts

>>729504704
>Non-Addictive
Incorrect, it doesn't make you physically dependent, addiction is psychological in conjunction with physical
>Anti-depressant
That varies
>Cures Cancer
LOL nothing yet cure cancer, it only slows the process of cell growth.
>Zero Deaths in History
Citation needed
>save police and nhs billions
They still arrest you for DUIs you know.
>No OD
That we know of, OD can happen with anything and everything.
>Grows brain-cells
Now you're just taking a piss. Stop spreading these lies around, it proves pothead association with low intelligent.

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>>729509207
>You can get addicted to anything that makes you happy
why Chinese cartoons are not illegal then?

>>729510629
*intelligence

>>729504787

You dont like, you are not the general

>>729510731
Some are :3
You can actually get addicted to anime, its a behavioral disorder. :)
I've never seen it happen myself, but it's possible.

>>729510629
If it's psychological, than the substance isn't addictive. It's you. Go back to sleep.

>>729510629
Stop trying to seem intelligent

>>729504704
It's cos you haven't legalized yet.

>>729504704
Most of the points here are wrong. Also, depressant and anti-depressant doesn't mean what you think it means. It has nothing to do with depression.
But even though you're as dumb as a post I agree with you. Alcohol is a much more dangerous and potent drug and if it is legal, weed should be too.

>>729511043
>>729511106
Your fault for not being in touch with reality, hardly any of that shit is true but you refuse to believe it. You want a way out to validate your addiction but this picture fails miserably.

>>729506112
>Causes mental health

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>>729510981
Then the weed is the same as anime because it doesn't have an addictive substance that can trigger this "behavioral disorder". This implying that THC is not an addictive.

You know what fuck all you niggers, light a spliffy and chill the fuck out no hate <3

>>729505726
Private prison lobby doubled down on this to ensure prison population quotas.

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>>729512514
*passes the blunt" Yeah nigga let's be happy together <3

You can't OD on weed.

>>729508419
Proof

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>>729504704
>grows brain cells
citation needed

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>>729513222
challenge accepted

>>729513222
>>729508364

These potheads
>TOP
>FKN
>KEK

>>729510629
They are junkies, they severely lack intelligence and good decision making

>>729504882
>>729504947

The evidence at this point indicates that marijuana does more good than harm when it comes to its effects on the adult brain.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/blog/does-marijuana-kill-brain-cells

>>729504704
Alcohol does not cause cancer and weed does not grows brain cells you idiots.

>>729505508
But can weed fuel melt steel beams?

I do find it crazy the way practically every intelligent enough person in the country knows that weed is only illegal for political reasons and because making it legal would be "bad for business" and yet it's still illegal. It's like the government isn't even trying to pretend to have any kind of morals or cater to what the people know is right anymore.

>>729513617
timestamp plz
You look cute if that's you btw :3

>>729514011
Doesn't mean we gotta tolerate their shit. When a weed grows in your garden, kill it.

Weed is addictive
Source: Personal Experience

>>729514912
this.

I mean in moderation is fine but it never ends up being In moderation for most people. it becomes an everyday thing.

>>729515141
Tobacco already is a legal everyday thing, and it actually slowly kills you

What right does the govt have to decide if a drug is legal or not if it has the same or less risks than the other?

>>729514713
newfag detected

>>729510629
it destroys cancer cells, there's evidence: there are videos that show these cells being killed by THC. Google it, there a lot of info on this.

>>729505767

You know the U.S. government DOES have a patent on cannabis.

As for profit, in the last two or three yrs, WA state alone has collected like over a billion dollars in Taxes, on just Cannabis and cannabis products alone.

It's only medically unpredictable because it's illegal, making it hard for researches to even start work, cause how much red tape they need to jump through, needing to know the right cock to suck.

It's obvious you're talking out of your ass.

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>reminder there's a reason why cannabis is slowly becoming legal & a very used medicine.

>>729509436
see >>729515595

>>729504704
Alcohol:
>isn't directly an upper or a downer
>doesn't directly cause cancer
>kills cells if you OD
>relatively easy to OD

Cannabis:
>addictive (even sport is addictive, you should probably try it)
>isn't an upper or a downer
>doesn't directly kill cancer, rather replaces heavy pain-medication
>the rest is bogus, also busting your ass for weed clearly costs police money.

>>729508164
Science is my rat

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Cannabis isnt addictive, you stupid retards:
I smoked it for 17 years EVERY DAY, between 1 and 5 grams per day, and quit cold turkey with not a fucking problem.

>>729504704
>Cannabis is addictive.
>Cannabis isn't an anti-depressant, lol
>Alcohol hasn't ever been proved to cause cancer
>Both alcohol and cannabis has caused deaths. Darwin doing what he does best.
>The war on marijuana is costing a lot too
>Alcohol poisoning (Darwin again). You can OD on weed (just not fatally OD)
>Alcohol doesn't cause brain cell death. It's the degradation of dendrites that does this (Again, Darwinism)
>Cannabis is actually legal in 8 states now.

>>729516748
Its not addictive, you cuck. see >>729516556
And there are no reports of deaths caused by cannabis.

>>729515595
Chemo and radiation also kill cancer cells, that doesn't make it a cure moron.

>>729516556
>it's not addictive
>btw i smoked every day for 17 years
this has to be bait

>>729508146
The Dopamine being released from your brain when you eat sugar is the same from when you smoke weed and both actions train your brain to do them again and again. One of the reasons fat people have troubles stopping their excessive eating habits is that constant Dopamine release, THC doesn't work any different in that regard, the brain experiences something, releases Dopamine, it feels good and wants to do it again.

Internet or gaming addiction function the same.

>>729516907
That means jack shit, all pleasurable activities are addictive, and someone's ability to quit is besides the point.

>>729516973
chemo has saved lots of peeps from dying.
And what do u think people rather take? chema or a natural substance that does the same thing without all the negative side effects?

it also helps them with mood, apetite and nausea.

>>729517060
yeas, for 17 years, 24/7.
Just cause u dont want to believe it, doesnt make it lies.

>>729517151
BUT the point is there are no addictive substances in cannabis.
Not like nicotine or heroin, for example.

>>729515608
If the U.S. government does have a patent on cannabis, please post the patent number. My Googlefu clearly isn't good enough to find it.

>>729517151
>>729517363
so u can become "addict" to watching TV or fapping. Its an habit

>>729504704
I mean I am all for worldwide legalization of weed but lets not be disshonest.

"Most drugs affect the brain's reward circuit by flooding it with the chemical messenger dopamine. This overstimulation of the reward circuit causes the intensely pleasurable "high" that leads people to take a drug again and again."

"Increases in mesolimbic dopamine transmission are observed when animals are treated with all known drugs of abuse, including cannabis, and to conditioned stimuli predicting their availability. In contrast, decreases in mesolimbic dopamine function are observed during drug withdrawal, including cannabis-withdrawal syndrome. Thus, despite general misconceptions that cannabis is unique from other drugs of abuse, cannabis exerts identical effects on the mesolimbic dopamine system. The recent discovery that endogenous cannabinoids modulate the mesolimbic dopamine system, however, might be exploited for the development of potential pharmacotherapies designed to treat disorders of motivation. Indeed, disrupting endocannabinoid signaling decreases drug-induced increases in dopamine release in addition to dopamine concentrations evoked by conditioned stimuli during reward seeking."

>>729506112
Aww shit nigga! I want some mental health. U say this shit causes it dawg? Well fuck sign me up.

>>729505508
I'd love to know where I'm hiding all these cures for cancer.
Source: I work for "big pharma"

>>729506560
>alcohol always being bad outside casual use.
Occasional drinkers (2-7 drinks per week) outlive nondrinkers so...

>>729504704
Yea i cant work it out. Make them both illegal!

>>729517152
>natural substance
>appeal to nature fallacy
Holy shit you're retarded, all chemo drugs come from elements found in nature. You know what else is natural? Hydrogen Sulfide. We readily produce it, but at high levels it causes chemical burns and fluid buildup in the lungs due to it's acidity and is classified as a "4" on the blue section of the hazard diamond, noting it as extremely toxic.

>>729517363
Irrelevant.

>>729518211
also, there are other 999999 plants/shrooms out there that are poisonus.
And u cal also get killed by bleach, rat poison and legal over thecounter medicines.
Lets make those illegal too!!!
>being that mongoloid

>>729504704
>debatable
>debatable
>fuck no it does
>debatable
>debatable
>debatable
>lol no
fuckings pot heads

>>729518306
So? That doesnt answer my question, but yeah.. Its a fact that THC oil make cancer cells destroy themselves. So its indeed a cure, can make u survive cancer.

>>729518386
I just hate the comparison argument like weed should be legal because its great for you.

Theyre both the pass time of the degenerate so who cares.

Make them both ilegal

>>729504704
I agree with every thing but it grows brain cells c'mon faggot

>>729518345
whys? thats a fact

>>729518602
Your question is flawed and without citation on side effects, I don't have to answer it. All chemo and radiotherapy options kill cancer cells but they're still only treatments and posting a half-assed picture on the internet will neither legitimize as a cure nor convince anyone otherwise.
Tl;dr you're an uneducated fag who needs to fuck off.

>>729504704

It basically boils down to a mix of capitalism and racism.

Two men are primarily responsible for the modern federal-level legal prohibition of marijuana that has been in existence for the past 78 years: Harry Anslinger and William Randolph Hearst.

https://www.massroots.com/learn/the-man-responsible-for-marijuana-prohibition

>>729518663
>Theyre both the pass time of the degenerate
lol

You judging and hating people just because they like coffe, tobacco, red bull or cannabis isnt a reason why something should become illegal.

>>729518663

yeah uhh they tried that once with alcohol....didn't work out so well.

have you ever even read a history book you fucking human cumstain?

>>729514491
Can fuel beams melt steel weed?

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>>729504704
>cure cancer
>grows brain cells

hurr durrrrrrrrr

>>729504704
ITT: Autism!

>>729518879
so u're saying chemo has no side effects? cmon anon.

And theres a lot, A LOT of info on all this. Im not making this up, modern science/medicine has been studying medical properties of cannabis/THC for decades.

>>729504704
Except
>Weed is addictive
>You dont know how many deaths it may have caused
>Doesn't grow brain cells
>Weed Has the most annoying and shitty culture ever
>stonerfags can't have a good time without sniffing plants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DttdDOqQMuY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OhUtL6T6BE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RtRil2ND-E

>>729518706
Facts=/=automatically relevant
Pot head argument:
>iz nut aditive! Nu fizikul effecs
Scientific rebuttal: Physical dependency is something that goes in tandem with addiction, not addiction itself. Any pleasurable activity is addictive, regardless of compounds that foster dependency.
Pot heads:
>but there iz no fizikal effectz!!
Scientific Rebuttal: be that as it may, cannabis is still a drug you can get addicted to and some users may find cessation difficult because they're psychologically dependent. In other words, it's a non-issue.

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>>729504704
We get it: you smoke weed.

>>729505726
Waiting for the penis.....
......
....ah! there it is
thought so

...gross

>>729519270
That isn't what I said at all, I said you have no proof THC is without side effects, more research needs to be done but for now it's still only a supplementary treatment.

>>729519270
If you think cannabis is a good alternative for chemo and radiation therapy well there's no good evidence for that. Cannabis treatments no doubt could have a place in the treatment of pain and nausea associated with those treatments but for the actual killing of cancer cells well more comprehensive studies need to be done first.

>>729504947
No actually you are the idiot. While I understand why you would disagree, endogenous cannabinoids play a role in brain cell generation. For quite some time we thought the brain couldn't generate new brain cells but new research is showing otherwise

>>729519467
so butthurt...
again, see >>729516556
and >>729517363

>>729519456
this

/thread

>>729507993
what the fuck
are you retarded?

>>729517198
the point is if it wasn't addictive you wouldn't have smoked it for that long every single day

>>729506112
Marijuana itself doesn't. The idea that it destroys brain cells comes from researchers affixing respirators to monkeys and literally pumping them full of smoke. Like amounts of smoke the even the biggest pothead doesn't produce over the course of a few days but they delivered t all at once

>>729504704
I think most people don't really consider cannabis 'dangerous' anymore.
The problem is the that stereotypical stoners are the most insufferable people on the planet.
If you want your drug to be legalized, how about you work on your public image?

>>729519644
Yes, theres evidence. They have made LOTS of studies... It treats the mentioned effects and also "kills" some types of cancer cells.

It of course also depends on the type and stage the cancer is at, I guess.
If i was me tho, id combine different treatments.

>>729504704
>non-addictive
>cures cancer
Both alcohol and weed is retarded but I don't care what other people do their own bodies.

>>729519652
Enough with the circular logic, Cannabis is addictive, some guy's experience and absence of dependence fostering compounds is irrelevant. Any attempts to add relevance regarding this topic is a fallacy.

>>729519759
i did it cause I liked it and had unlimited acces to it.
I could pass hours/days without smoking it, and not having the NEED to do it.

Thats not the case with drugs that actually create an addiction, dependance and fuck ur health up if u quit using them like that.

ie, alcohol,
heroin,
Clonazepam,
the list goes on.....

with those ur are just HOOKED. You NEED to keep using them.
Good luck quiting cold turkey with those...

"Cures cancer" it milds the pain you idiot

>>729520254
so your putting benzodiacepines and cannabis in the same bag? FFS, anon.... See >>729520365

>>729504704
Fair enough. But what if you had a son and he started smoking weed regularly. Would you just let him be? I personally wouldn't let my kid touch neither alcohol nor any kind of drug.

>>729520365
>my experience speaks for everyone and everything
You're using flawed logic.

>>729520254
you write smart, but you is still ignant

>>729520041
Were those lab trials or clinical trials because it can be hard to extrapolate out to its effect on human patients from studies done in labs?

>>729507483
It's not the chemical that's addictive nigga, a healthy individual will feel so chemical dependence. Some sad faggot who thinks the high is the best part of their life is obviously going to develop some sort of mental dependence on the high produced

>>729520588
You missed the point.
Different substances have different properties and effects....

>inb4 the fishposters

>>729520488
You did, I didn't. My case is it's addictive, which unlike you, I have a multitude of doctors, scientists, and professors to back me up on that.

>>729520737
O rly? Still addictive.

>>729508251
It isn't chemically addictive, although some depressed cunt will likely get 'addicted' to anything he finds enjoyable

>>729504704
>cures cancer
Kek nigga wot
>not addictive
Is that why my mother smokes it everyday?
>anti-depressant
An antidepressant that makes you paranoid it seems.
>grows brain cells
Nigga wat

>>729520779
>implying theyr all informed about latest UNBIASED studies regarding cannabis.

If u go ask a random physician who has no clue, hes going to tell you what we all think.
"Cannabis kills you, its the devil"
LOL

Again, there are no substances that cause an addiction per se, like other drugs do >>729520737

>>729514713
faggot

>>729515307
Yea, bitch about it on an image board nobody cares about. That's how you change your government

>>729521039
>stoner detected

>>729520877
I guess the distinction to be made is whether or not to addiction is being caused by a primary or secondary effect. Alcohol is a direct manipulation of the chemical pathways in the body where as gambling, would be an indirect manipulation. Would smoking weed fall into the former or the latter category?

>>729505726
That's a stupid argument. A farmer is just going to switch to a profitable crop

if it were non addictive this thread wouldn't exist

>>729504704
I pity the people who actually believe this chart 100%

>>729504704
yea call me a faggot or whatever but im a stoner and im gonna have to call bullshit on the cancer and brain cell crap, legalize but not for stupid made up fantasy reasons

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>>729520814
Just cause u think or heard its addictive or that cannabis kills, doesnt mean that bs is true.
>pic related

>>729521039
Oh yeah, I'm supposed to believe someone who can't even use basic English on 4chan over an educated professional who specializes in human Biology and I'm the idiot if I don't. Weak "argument" anon, but I wouldn't expect any better from someone who doesn't know what addiction is.

>>729521188
And thats why Im informed and know first hand of whats true and what is not.

>>729504704
Nice try cannbislobbyist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brlogf_nDDM

>>729504704

It should not be illegal, but that's some bullshit right there.

>>729521569
What are u even talking about?

And you not wanting to belive is a whole different story... Read more; all that info is all over the internet.

>>729521556
Not I think it's addictive, I know. I'm a Bio major who knows psych majors on top of people who are already in STEM fields and every one of us who grasps our respective subjects and our respective fields will tell you that it's addictive. Anything that is pleasurable is addictive, you cannot refute this and deflecting to THC not being dependence forming will not undo that fact.

>>729520668
>>729519456

>>729519456
Underrated btw

>>729515595
Killing cancer cells =/= curing cancer.

>>729505065
Only smoke when I feel like it. I usually stop for months at a time. Even when I used to smoke all the time if you just took it away from me I'd be bummed obviously but I wouldn't suffer withdrawls and I could honestly live without it

>>729521772
Can't up with discussion can you? Must be the psychological hindrances excessive cannabis use imposes. Anon, go take college level Biology, read the CDC, read every .gov resource about Cannabis and addiction and talk to people well versed in chemistry and psychology and they'll all tell you why you're wrong.

>>729506533
It can be, but you're a dumb fuck if you use that as an argument against legalization.

>>729522124
*keep up
Typo

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> Grows braincells
> Non-addictive

ya ok bud

>>729521856
>implying
so you must know theres a difference between an habit and physical addiction.
I've been eating the same thing at lunch for years, that is an habit, and I keep doing it because I love oatmeal. That doesnt mean there a chmical/addictive substances that makes me crave and have the need to eat that.
And im not going to die if I, all of a sudden, stop eating oatmeal.
That was the initial point.

>>729522181
>implying all of us are
Not that guy but I've been arguing with faggots all day about the addictive effects of cannabis but I support legalization, just not their erroneous claims.

>>729522124
>read every .gov resource about Cannabis
LOL!!!
Just lol man

MENTAL ADDICTION =/= CHEMICAL ADDICTION

Also addiction is not an argument int he first place. You can become chemically addicted to caffeine for fuck sake.

>>729506187
I actually got psychosis from weed and wax I don't smoke it nomore

Oh yeah
https://youtu.be/TtSMKzqyp40

>>729522356
Nah, I'm not implying that this time, but a lot of idiots do use the "addictive nature" of cannabis as an argument. Not realizing the addictive effect it can have on some people is purely psychological. But then again, you can get psychologically addicted to literally anything. So it can't even be called a "weedjuana addiction".

>>729522124
>gov
mhm, from the same guys who created the "reefer madness" hysteria.
Because they always tell us the truth, right?

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If cannabis is non-addictive, then how come those smoke it do so consistently? And if cannabis grows brain cells, then how come every stoner I've met has been a thick cunt?

>>729522383
this

>>729508251
You play video games? Why do you play those all the time, eh? VIDEO GAMES ARE ADDICTIVE AND DANGEROUs. What about any other hobby why do you keep doing it? BECAUSE IT'S ADDICTIVE STOP GOLFING YOU ARE GOING TO DIE

>>729521863
Yea I already had a look at those videos and they don't really have any evidence relating to clinical trials so the jury is still out on this one to be honest.

>>729522292
>habit
Habits and addictions are not the same thing; a habit is a set behavior done repeatedly, an addiction is either psychological or physical or a combination thereof dependence on a pleasing activity.

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>>729522683

addictive =/= dangerous

>>729522571
>>729522372
Your words against theirs, and they have way more credibility than you do.

>>729522641
Now, that's just a horrible fucking argument.

>>729522550
Fair enough.

>>729522701
idk anon,
didnt checked those vids myself, but you can google dr praksh Nagarkatti. He's been doing research for years, have studies results and somehwere theres a video where he shows/explains what I mentioned.

>>729522641
This. I have a friend who has to scrape up $50 a week to stay high. He says it's not addictive and he can quit yet he's been doing this for well over 10 years, fucking KEK. On top of that, he actually sells addictive prescription pills like Lortabs, Oxy Contin, Adderall that he barely takes so he can support his weed habit.

>>729522383
You don't see people spouting off that coffee is curing cancer, growing brain cells and helping depression. People who drink coffee everyday are addicted to it and pretty much know it. That's the difference.

>>729509744
You don't think the pharmaceutical companies make billions upon billions?

You think they make money by curing people and making them healthy?

You think anything that interferes with that doesn't get crushed immrdiately?

No tinfoil hat necessary son, that's called common fucking sense, one day you'll grow up and realize there's much more to it. But you don't care..

>>729522810
I really really hope you know I was just being an asshole and didn't mean that lol

>>729522995
They do make millions, from saving lives via vaccines, treatments and cures. Are they saints? Nah, but if you believe stuff like "they only want treatments not cures" then you don't know how the market works. The one who cures cancer will be the richest in the world.

>>729522841
>Your words
Not my words.
What I've read from unbiased, credible, non gov-paid/sponsored studies.
How naive are u anon, come the fuck on.

>>729507251
Dude you can get addicted to cereal

>>729522979
I'm not saying there aren't studies that support your position but I think there needs to be considerably more high quality trials that need to be done in order to get a definitive answer. Honestly the stuff I've seen online looks a lot like pandering a lot of the time and well the people trying to sell it as a panacea really do more harm than good in peoples opinion of the drug.

>>729523172
>cure cancer
>lose billions in "cancer research $"

Yeah...makes sense.

>>729505508
This.

there are also other reasons. You forgot legalization isnt either a business for police, because the most used illegal substance is cannabis....

so yeah,
/thread

>>729523241
Lol, by unbiased sources do you mean sites with urls like weednaysh dot org or smokeeveryday dot com or the subleddit labelled trees? You can get the info I'm talking about from mayo clinic for goodness sake, it's common knowledge to even the least discerning folks.

>>729507251
I see you don't understand the concept of psychological addiction.

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>>729504704
blame william randolph hearst and his timber business

>>729523339
Not cereal no, the sugar in the cereal for sure.

>>729523555
Another one who doesn't understand psychological addiction. To many morons on this board.

>>729523172
This. I work for big pharma.

>>729523503
Cancer research is fucking expensive, are you mental? They gotta beg for donations because of how challenging the disease is. Did you even study Biology in high school?

>>729523541
Sure I do, it's a mental disorder.
Mentally addicted=mentally ill

>>729523537
lets see where your mayo clinic gives us the specific compound/chemical that causes the "addiction" you mention.
Or the reports of deaths they have caused by cannabis.

>>729523732
So you confirm that you don't. Got it.

>>729521856
The statement was made too broad to be accurate, what should have been said is something along the lines of "does not form a chemical dependence"

>>729504704
>not addictive
kek

>>729523503
What a naive idea of the complexities of curing the array of diseases known as cancer. Do you know how expensive research is? If every pharma company in the world had the liberty to conduct no research and literally cure cancer they would because who wants to pay thousands of people for up to 15 years on a drug that probably won't work?

>>729523702
Yeah of course it is...so WHY would anyone want to cure cancer (or any other disease) and have that $ cut off?

Btw learn to read, I was talking about cancer "research" not treatment.

>>729508419
So then why do I hear that if you do it as a teen it stops your brain from developing?

>>729523752
Have you even been following along? I said psychological addiction you idiot, not physical dependence.

>>729508571
Forgot to fix non-addictive, too

they should both be illegal
work that out

>>729504704
****************************citation needed********************

>>729524187
no,
thats what i told u long ago.... U can put all drugs in the same bag. Cant put cannabis and benzos at the same level.

One of those IS addictive. The other is not.

>>729524128
>implying I wasn't talking about cancer research
Because the amount of money obtained to look for cancer would be nothing compared to the amount gained from everyone buying the cure.

>>729524514
Retard, all pleasurable things are addictive, we've been through this. You cannot prove otherwise.

>>729505065
Its not chemically addictive. You can quit without withdrawal symptoms.

>>729505065
Why would I stop doing something I enjoy?

>>729505065
Spotted the retard who has never had an experience with cannabis. I do that all the time whenever I need to stay sober for a job or whatever. I can go forever without any cravings.

>>729521252
Farmers aren't the ones with lobbyists, retard.

>>729524633
chill your tetas, I agree on that.
What u cant say its cannabis causes dependance/addiction.

But anyways, even if it did, whats the problem?
I can become addicted/habituated to painting, or writing or whatever, as long as it doesnt affect me in a negative way, why should me or someone else give a fuck?
Only "bad" thing about weed is if you smoke like, A LOT, daily, your lungs are just going to be a little sore. Thats it.

>>729524823
You enjoy lighting a plant on fire and inhaling the fumes in your lungs? What a boring hobby.

>>729523541
Addiction is a disease :^)

>>729523624
>Too

>>729522992
>You don't see people spouting off that coffee is curing cancer, growing brain cells and helping depression
That's because it doesn't, dumbass. Weed has research showing that it does do these things. People can get addicted to it like people can get addicted to literally anything. However, unlike drugs such as heroin, there are no overbearing physical withdrawal symptoms that would require you to either lie in bed for days or use again to get rid of them.

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>grows brain cells
Bitch, what the fuck?

I mean I smoke a night cap every night, but don't just straight up lie. Makes us non-scumbag stoners look like shit.

Wrong! While I think weed should be legalised it is addictive and it does cause depression. A few years back I smoked every day, a lot every day. Like and oz a week... By the end I was such a depressed hermit I basically never left the house. And when I tried to quit I was a total head case. I had withdrawals something hectic. In moderation it's fine but it'll grab you by the balls...

>>729523555
I'm addicted to non-sugared cereal.

>>729525108
Addiction being a disease can certainly be made for certain kinds of addictions. Do you really see a smoker and think "oh, there's a sick person"?
>>729525142
Yep. Fuck you, lol

>>729525344
Blame the weed, not yourself :^)

>>729525017
That's because physical dependence is a non-issue, addiction is addiction and if you're going to argue it isn't addictive based on one aspect of addiction then you'll never build a legitimate case for yourself.

>>729504862
Lol dude they already have been giving people with cancer weed for a while now, just not Tennessee or whatever bumfuck place you are from.

>>729504862
They already know. Ever hear of medical marijuana?

Why is "No Death/OD" listed twice? Also I find the phrase "Grows Brain Cells" dubious. I love weed but this is bullshit.

>>729525485
>>729525548
>giving cancer patients weed will cure them
There's a great intensity to this level of density.

>>729525244
You don't think there aren't studies showing those things? Those studies are out there and have as much weight as the studies of cannabis being essentially a wonderdrug. Also whether or not cannabis is physically addictive is a moot point. Lots of drugs with therapeutic effects are addictive. The point is whether they do what they say they do.

>>729505065
As a person who travels internationally for work, I'm basically a stoner in the States and then never in Asia because it's hard to meet the sort of people who have it there, aside from that they imprison you. But honestly, there is just absolutely no case to be made that it is any more addictive than just stuff that you like. It's exactly as addictive as chewing gum or listening to heavy metal. Oh no I'm a gum addict! Lol

>>729521856
Then you admit there is no less basis to avoid it than there is to avoid eating your favorite food.

>>729525463
I take u mean physical dependance is a big issue.
see >>729525244

>>729525820
Physical addiction is not a moot point. It's the discerning factor between being addicted to television and being addicted to meth.

>>729525463
>physical addiction is a non-issue
>addiction is addiction
Found the mongoloid, boys.

>>729526049
What kind of retard statement is this?

>>729526444
Sorry you're too dense to understand facts.

ITT: uninformed non-users who still believe in all the lies they taught us for decades.

>>729526419
Not really, addiction as a whole is unhealthy, trying separate it is kidding yourself.

>>729526685
You're the one who doesn't understand how addiction works, though.

>>729526715
>I smoke weed so I know everything about weed
Kek

>>729526419
Well it has to be taken into consideration when discussing the possible usefulness of the drug yes. Even meth has possible medical uses. I don't think anyone would compare cannabis to television.

>>729526934
Not what he said. He simply implied that way to many of you retards want to ban something that you don't even know the realities of.

>>729526984
True. Cannabis doesn't make you as dumb as television does.

>>729526748
Nobody is saying it isn't unhealthy.

>>729527083
What a stupid statement.

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>>729504704

>>729527200
lol, butthurt redneck who's never had an original thought in his life much? Tell me, what's it like to be wrong about everything?

>>729526767
Well actually I do, I'm a Bio major. Addiction is either a physical dependence, a mental dependence, or a combination thereof to a pleasurable substance or activity. It's not hard, anon.

>>729505065
i smoke like 2 times a year. it's addictive compared to something like a hobby.

>>729527200
Is it really though?

>>729504704

It's funny cause every single one of these are made up except OD. It's addictive, can be a depressant, doesn't cure cancer, has caused MANY deaths, doesn't save police money, destroyed brain cells. Waste of space weedheads will say anything to make themselves look better.

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>>729504704
>destroys brain cells
That's actually incorrect
>cures cancer
not necessarily
>zero deaths in history
Due to what? OD? True, probably, but I'm sure plenty of people fucking died while stoned.
>non-addictive
Really, depends. Some people literally get addicted to the feeling they get and literally become dependent.
But also I agree Cannabis is way better than alcohol, but not really these reasons.
I like how this doesn't mention hemp and paper that you can make from marijuana plants either, tho.

>>729527322
Enlightening.

Weed is a overrated and a, quite frankly, shit drug.

>>729527400
You're not a fucking biology major. Then you'd know how different the two are, and how physical addiction is not a "non-issue".

>>729526748
You can smoke weed and not become physically dependent on it.
You cannot use heroin and not become physically dependent on it.

You can watch TV and become mentally dependent on it.
You can smoke weed and become mentally dependent on it.

>>729527021
>we're potheads so we know more about weed than those of you who read scientific resources or you STEM majors u ignint
O I am laffin

>>729527472
>It's addictive
>has caused MANY deaths
ffs, people is so damn stupid.

>>729527482
>plenty of people fucking died while stoned
Not as a direct cause of the substance.

>>729527596
Of course you're laughing, you're missing the fucking point.

>>729526748
People can die from alcohol withdrawals. There is a difference.

>>729527455
Yes it is.

>>729527529
>You don't study bio cuz you disagree with me!
Kek you don't know me, and within the confines of this argument, physical dependence is moot. You know where it does matter? When arguing about narcotics, but we aren't talking about narcotics, we're talking about cannabis use and the misinformation the OP spreads regarding it.

>>729504704
Canabbis
-it's addictive
-don't cures the cancer, just calm the pain
- it's the main door for others drugs
-grows brain cells ?????

>>729527550
Heroin is irrelevant, OP is wrong, weed is addictive.

>>729527972
>- it's the main door for others drugs
I agree.
Same as milk, it lead you to drinking beer.

And H20 is the main door for other drinkables like mango juice.

>>729527833
Irrelevant, the OP is still wrong and people can become dependent on cannabis.

>>729527918
Well, yes, in the context of cannabis, physical addiction is a moot point, because it doesn't cause physical addiction. It's not a moot point when discussing "narcotics" in general, however. Should have worded that a bit differently.

>>729527704
>u mekkin mi mad sun obey us and our low IQ ways!
HAHAHAHAHA

>>729527972
This is the most retarded fucking post in this thread. Where the fuck did you get that from?