Revolvers are better. Pistols are a new fad fading with time.

>>729359894
Did I fire five or six shots?

Who cares. I have 10 in the magazine and it tells me when it's empty.

hell if you want to go old school go single shot if you buy a cheap pistol it will jam spend some money and take care of you tools do not play in the mud or sandbox it is not a toy

>>729360228
I can't tell you when it's empty, it jammed.

>>729360296
Don't play in the mud? So you mean don't actually use your tools in real world scenarios? Gotcha.

>>729360458
it is not a real world scenario unless you are an idiot you drops shit in the mud remember it is a tool and can save your life treat it well and it serves well do you use your axe to chop rocks no

>>729360686
If I have to use my axe to split a rock it will, if I have to use my revolver after falling in the mud, I will.

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>>729359894
I love my baby American Arms pocket revolver. I like to use #12 shot 22wmr, as it's like a extra tiny shotgun in my car.

>>729361057
I absolutely love my S&W 340PD as seen in the photo. The best EDC someone can have.

>>729360390
oh yeah revolvers never do that

ITT guys with tiny dicks

>>729361476
Maybe if you dip it in butter and then sand, and even then it has a good chance.

>>729361637
What happened to "if I have to dip it in butter and sand, it will" ?

>>729361776
It will, I'd bet my life on a revolver dipped in butter and sand over a pistol any day.

Best thing about a revolver...leaves no shell casings. No casings...no evidence.

>>729359894
Enjoy trying to reload when the shit hits the fan and blood is everywhere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout

>>729362422
They would yell time out kek

>>729362276
That's simply untrue you fucking mong.

The barrel leaves small marks on the bullet itself, after firing, which are unique. If you can remove bullet fragments and get a hold of the gun you suspect fired the bullet you can definitely link them to each other.

>>729361168

x dee dee dee dee

I have that too, its shit. it cant shoot straight 5 feet away

>>729362859
Quite accurate up to 15-20 yards. Above that, why the fuck are you using a snub nose?

>>729362824
You're retarded... "If you can remove bullet fragments AND get a hold of a gun" seriously...

>>729362824
Nope he's right. No evidence. No casing, no bullet, no body, nothing!

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>>729359894
Why not both? I have a .357 ruger revolver, chiappa white rhino with exchangeable cylinders for multiple calibers and a kimber 1911..I love them all, but my favorite is the non-revolver of the three. The chiappa can shoot 9mm which I like for the range, and the ruger has that ol' fashion feel, if I had a single action revolver I would be content with enough pistols.

>>729363149
Bullet fragments would be removed during the autopsy for this specific reason faggot.

Unless you're some kind of pussy who would be serial killing then you'll likely have some relation to the victim. If your a suspect then the police will take your dumbass revolver from you and cross reference it.

>>729363703
>registering a fire arm

How's the weather out in California there buddy?

>>729363937
>Implying the police wouldn't get a warrant and search your house for your unregistered pea shooter.

Taping it to the bottom of your kitchen table "Just in case" isn't clever.

1911 is the true master gun.

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I'm not a cop/don't know anything about police work, but working in an or I can tell you good fucking luck bringing a bullet to a specific gun. Maybe you can find out what caliber and search who has that kind of weapon in people that know the victim.., which is irrelevant sometimes, but working with only a bullet isn't going to find you a person in and of itself. And these weird mean fucking new modern defense rounds? I've seen so many samples of just warped shards..x-ray after x-ray fishing out Tiny pieces. Maybe a professional can identify the round, but I'm telling you it's so bad that they may not even be able to find out what caliber it is.

I fired guns a lot as a kid on a range, haven't in about 15 years. I think I fired a revolver maybe once, all the rest were pistols of various calibers, a shotgun or two a .22 rifle.

In all those times (30+) I fired pistols, I can remember a Beretta 9mm jamming once or twice because the barrel wasn't clean or something.

I understand in a life or death situation you want a weapon guaranteed to work, but can anyone provide ANY example someone was killed because their pistol jammed? What's the likelihood of a well maintained pistol having a shell casing lodged in the barrel? 1%? 10%? 0.1%?

Please, someone help me out.

>>729360984
Shlomos got these guys paying $500 for a glock. Top kek.

> muh superior quality

>>729359894
I have a hammer less S&W EDC but I like my Beretta 9mm way better. So many bullets

>>729364370
you are correct, back in the day when most people used ball point ammo in which the round didnt deform too much when impacting. but new frangible type ammo that is used for self defense and police, but usually not cheap nigger criminals, is designed to break apart and cause a more massive wound.

>>729362422
Great reference.

>>729364370
its the shell casing and the hammer strike on the primer that they use to identify bullets to guns nowadays

>>729360458
Theres a reason no modern military uses revolvers, and trust me those sidearms see plenty of mud.
For a private person fucking around or for protection? Sure, but if you need actual technological progress on your side, like say enough ammo to atleast suicide your whole squad, youll want a proper pistol.
"Pistols are a new fad fading with time" also is just false. Where would you get such numerbs? on what do you base that? I havent seen a single revolver in my life, plenty of pistols though. And thats only anecdotal sure, but its moer than you provided.

>>729359894
Or we could just stop shooting each other.

>>729364141
Right cuz I'm going to bring that fucker back to my house after I kill somebody with it. How retarded are you?!?

>>729364370
>>729364578

You can still compare the markings on a hollow point fragment. If you shoot a round from a rifled barrel it'll leave reproduce able marks.

Any forensic jackass with a microscope can make the comparison.

>>729364752
>its the shell casing and the hammer strike on the primer that they use to identify bullets to guns nowadays
Junk science

>>729364817
Go suck a dick liberal faggot

>>729364383
Once you get comfortable with a gun, and you don't experience any jams after over a thousand rounds..and you know how to clean/lubricate it, you're aware that magazines can get weak over time..that your gun doesn't feed some specialty rounds well, or cycle different grains well..once you know and practice all of that, it's almost 0 when you find a dependable weapon.

That being said revolvers are more simple, and thus more reliable. Your Beretta experience is the easiest to find examples for, it has a long history as being America's pistol side arm..and there will be Tons of anecdotal and lists of occurrences online.

>>729364875
you have to file off the serial number, take a drill to the barrel, take it apart and throw it away in various places around town, but you have to leave your phone at home so they cant track the signal.

>>729359894
Only US manufactured weapons jam. That's why you're still using revolvers.

>>729364923
>Any forensic jackass with a microscope can make the comparison.
You watch too much CSI son

>>729364939
And thats how the convict you and send you up the river
>junk science

>>729364923
i know that, i watch a ton of murder porn documentaries. but you can change the pattern of the rifling or buy another barrel for cash and use that to murder blacks and then throw it away and happily give the gun to police for testing, you cant do that with a gay ass revolver

>>729364979
I've had more misfires from my S&W revolver than any other gun I have. Its not even close.

>>729365043
I don't even watch TV. It's basic shit you learn after taking any forensic course. There's a shitload of ways to track a bullet to a gun.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-can-a-bullet-be-trace/

>>729365147
yes you can are you retarded?

>>729359894
Listen here you gun loving animal, there's a time and place for automatics. The whole reason the US cops went to automatics over revolvers is because they're a bitch to reload and a bunch of FBI agents got schooled by a guy with an automatic. I love my .357 and I want a .44 colt but there's a difference between 'firing power' and 'stopping power' and people using autos want to be able to put more lead down range.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122443513236?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

>>729362824
Also ballistics testing has been proven to be shit. Can't tell us all the things the cops and DA's would like us to think it does.

So it's settled then.

Revolvers are gay.

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>>729365153
That's interesting to hear, but I'm far more familiar with magazine fed pistols..I guess what I'm saying is that experience has a big impact on how often a person's gun will jam..even though that sounds kinda stupid.

>>729365211
The blowback from a 9mm on a soft target is much more devastating than a .357 or a .44

>>729365153
Gotta be doing something wrong. Or a manufacturer defect

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>>729364297
Correct. Mine is 99 years old.

>>729361057
I don't even have big hands and I can't shoot that damn thing effectively

totally adorable, though, and I won't sell mine, but i won't carry it, either, not even as a snake gun

>>729359894
Of course revolvers are better you get to play russian roulette and someone with bad luck dies

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>>729365576
Mine is less than a year old, still love it.

>>729365462
you just have to assume your gun will jam your experience should be on how to clear it rather than whether it will happen or not.

>>729365427
No but all the legal system ever does is work in probabilities. If there's a decent chance that bullet A came from gun A and not somewhere else then that helps build that case.

No one was ever put away just for DNA or ballistic evidence. You need other shit like probable motive, lack of an alibi, video or audio recordings, eye witness testimony etc.

The point is, using a revolver over a semi in a murder won't leave "No evidence". There will always be something left behind that can help build a case against you.

>>729365613
russian roulette with a semiauto has way better results.

>>729365652
kimber is trash.

>>729365554
they get dirty really quick and the internal spring tends to get fragile

>>729365730
overpriced by a mile

>>729365795
i had the ultra carry 2 and it jammed all the time. ftf and fte i hated it. sold it and got a colt 1911 commander and have been loving it.

how many bullets can a revolver hold again please inform me.

>>729365898
8 or 9 i think

>>729365898
depends on the revolver. .357 magnum is 8 rounds standard.

>>729360228
if you need 10, you're doing it wrong.

>>729365898
Depends on the gun. 5-9. Anywhere in there.

Might be able to have less. But I don't know why you would.

>>729361489
this

>>729366146
the miami FBI shootout one of the suspects was shot 12 times and had no drugs in his system

>>729362422
nice reference but it's not relevant these days, enforcement is militarized.

>>729361489
>>729366196
samefagging

>>729361489
just because you cannot afford guns, or have a criminal record because you are a black, does NOT mean most gun owners have tiny dicks. as a owner of guns and tiny dicks i want to tell you a big fat HOWDY!

>>729366287
it was probably with ball point ammo that just goes through the body leaving no real damage

>>729366287
11 of those where double taps though

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>>729365153
S&W model 586 .357 caliber
I've shot hundreds of rounds thru it.
Never had a misfire or jam. I'd take this to a fire fight over my 9 mm. I have speed loaders for it so no bullshit about lack of rounds.
1 shot 1 kill. I don't spray & pray

>>729362181
Then you have shit taste in pistols.

>>729366196
As a man with an above average sized penis, I feel obligated to inform you that it does not aid in self defense.

>>729359894
As much as I like revolvers, I don't like blowhards who post pictures of their guns, and there's an airsoft gun in their collection.
IT DOESN'T BELONG THERE.

>>729359894
There's got to be a reason why 1st world militaries don't issue revolvers

>>729363343
>reductio ad absurdum
I will find you, and I will kill you

>>729362422
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout

and a pistol was also innoperative and caused 2 death,but for better reason

>>729365795
>>729365730
That's what I keep hearing, but I haven't had any issues with it..and at 700 brand new, I'm not sure that's insanely overpriced.

>>729359894
Get a fucking Glock, then. Revolvers are not effective for law enforcement/military use or for your cringey ideas of self defense. Get with the fucking times.

>>729366413
you can find the ballistics gel test on youtube its really obvious that 9mm is the way to go not sure what ammo is being used in the tests

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>>729366791
>Cringey ideas of self-defense

Damn that got me pretty hard, yeah I just like guns for guns and I don't want it jamming at the range or to have shit stuff. But then again I'm not OP

>>729366461
mines hammerless maybe thats the problem I like my 9mm shitloads of bullets and the recoil is almost non-exsistent

>>729359894
Well....revolvers do jam. Plus you have the issue where the casing will expand and then the extractor has trouble getting the empty cartridge out when you're done shooting slowing your reload time.

There's a lot more mechanical stuff going on in a revolver. If you drop a revolver on concrete with the cylinder open it's probably going to have to go to a gunsmith to work properly again (if it ever works properly again). If you do that with a semi auto it will most likely be fine as long as you didn't drop it on the sights.

That said, I do keep a S&W 629 in .44 for home defense. But then I also keep an old Russian service pistol as well in 7.62x25 cause that will shoot through things.

>>729366461
>hundreds
ahahahahaha fuckin normie fudd nigger

>>729366461
oh and one shot one kill is some dipshit way of thinking read up on the FBI Miami shootout

>>729360228
6 bullets
More than enough to kill anything that moves

>>729366822
my cop friends all use 9 glocks with leo +p+ rounds.

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Ya'll get on MY level

>>729366966
see>>729366945

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>>729366881
And the vast majority of modern tech/r&d focuses on 9mm. That's just the truth. All my pistols are .45 and .357 but I concede 9mm is the superior round in many, many ways.

>>729366879
The range is something else entirely, though. You can have a weapon that's inefficient by modern standards there, because it simply doesn't matter. But can you honestly say we should go back to equipping our police officers and servicemen with fucking revolvers?

>1911 masterrace checking in

>>729366461
Wheelguns are reliable, sure.. but autos are too. They just require more training to operate effectively. I'd much rather CC a small frame auto than a snub nose.

>>729367062
Hell no, I'm not a revolver man other than maybe single action for the historical feel of it. I was just lulzin at your post.

>>729359894

>no jamming

The biggest difference between a semi automatic and a revolver is when a semi auto fails you can generally clear the malfunction and get back to it. When a revolver fails, and they do, it's almost always catastrophic. Not field serviceable. There are many reasons that state and federal agencies moved away from them long ago, this is one of them.

Stop perpetuating bullshit.

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>>729359894

>>729367142
Same, to be honest. The only times I use revolvers is when I have access to some antique piece of equipment or when I need something like a .44 Remington Magnum or a .454 Casull. Which doesn't happen often.

>>729367154
boom this guy shot the nail on the head.

>>729367028
either way i dont want to get shot with a .22 let alone a 9mm or .45

>>729359894
Fading?? Semi auto pistols have been around almost as long as revolvers. Do your homework.

>>729366461
I carried the Model 686 (stainless version of the 586) when I worked as a Sheriff's Deputy. Good solid handgun.
I prefer my Sig P229 in .357 - still the 586 is all around solid.

>>729367437
OP is obviously a degenerate, conservative, redneck piece of shit. Can't expect him to know how to read.

>>729367587
Ma nigga

>>729367348
>i dont want to get shot with a .22 let alone a 9mm or .45
If I have to get shot I'll take the .22 every time. Physics.

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>>729359894
German Reichrevolver 1883

9mm glock 19 over any revolver ever.

>>729367721
one guy at na meetings always talks about how he shot himself in the head with a 22. but i think he is a lying junkie

>>729367587
Capacity. Reload speed. You lose.

>>729367750
Glock 18 and the day is good

>>729367750
Glock 17*, but you're right. A 9mm handgun like the Glock 19 or 17 is more than enough for any normal task. Unless you're going into bear country, you're never going to need anything else.

>>729367750
What does nogunz say when asked about making his first gun purchase?
>9mm glock 19 over any revolver ever.

>>729367835
Semi-automatics have higher capacities and greater reload speed, what's your point?

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Nah m8, i got my Luger and im happy

>>729367922

yea for a person that does not have any guns a glock is the usual entrance pistol. cheap reliable and capable.

as far as nogunzdawg i own a rather sizable collection that includes literally zero revolvers.

>>729368000
im very happy with my nazi hk p7m8

>>729368091
>nazi
>not realizing they went into production around 1906

>>729367805
Saw a negro shot point blank in the forehead with a .22.
The round never penetrated the skull and deflected, traveled underneath the scalp and exited the back of his neck - superficial subdural skin wound the whole way.

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I own two guns:

Mossberg 500 12g, and a S&W 357 revolver (which fires .38 and .357 rounds).

Both firearms are decedents of tried and true guns that "won the west" for a reason.

I'm looking for my third and final firearm and my collection is complete: M1 Garande.

>>729368138

it has nazi stamping you nigger.

>>729359894
>fad fading with time
over 100 years going strong
>no jamming
i had cases jam under the middle part of the drum extractor

Better capacity, faster reload

>>729368219
Very well. Whatever you say.

>>729368209
you got good taste anon

>>729368138
p7 production started in 1979. thanks for the fake news donald.

>>729367154
a major failure will put ko both semi and revolver.

a jammed semi is relatively easy and quick to deal with, a jammed revolver is not quick to "un-jamming" but it is very rare that a well maintained revolver will jam.

Modern semiautos are very(VERY) reliable but a modern revolver is slightly more reliable but this come with low capacity and long (LONG) reload time.

>>729368138
The P7 is the PSP u retard, its produced since 30-40 years (1979 i think)

>>729361057
Oh no, it's retarded

>>729359894

>Revolver

>>Heavy
>>Can't silence it
>>Slow rate of fire
>>Takes long to reload


Pistols are a jack of all trades, and thus better in IRL scenarios.

>>729368360
I don't know every single fucking miniscule detail about the Lugers, cunt. Not my fault you're autistic.

>>729367154
Eh...define 'fail'

Whenever I've had a LOT of semi auto's jam. If I want something that will fire the ammo that is loaded in the gun, I'll take the revolver.

You can obviously mitigate a lot of this with a really high end semi auto in good working order with inspected and "tested with that firearm" ammo. But then same applies to anything.

A semi will 'jam' (not fire, or fire once badly then not chamber). 8/10 times you will need some tools to correct this. A revolver literally cannot do this. All it can do is go "click" then you just pull the trigger again.

Now if you're talking about actual failure? Either can do that. Extractor broken, magazine issues, broken springs, retention pins, etc can all fail on semi autos. This will require a new part or a smith. Revolver has all kinds of mechanical stuff in there too though. The big issue is that it's a bit more 'delicate' as far as alignment. If you whack it really hard sideways the cylinder can become out of alignment and it won't load up. Basically you're screwing up your only magazine.

>>729367067
1911s are stupid.

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>>729368297

Thank you, man.

>>729368493
Lugers?

Are you on drugs?

HK =/= Luger
Luger died 1945 with germany

Also the P08 was the best semi-automatic pistol besides the M1911, US bearly bought them 1910

>>729359894
I LOVE revolvers. That being said, i think pistols have their advantages in certain situations. The reload speed for example.

>>729368493
hk =/= luger. youre a tard baby.

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Its HIIGHHH NOOON

>>729368650
Yes, I thought the conversation was about the Lugers. My bad. Lugers are great firearms, however, hence the US almost buying a bunch of them chambered in .45 ACP.

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>>729368493
>Autistic
>Lugers

YOU sir, are the Autist here

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>>729368493
>Not my fault you're autistic
Spotted the jew

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>>729368493
>HK P7
>Lugers

Omg kys

>>729368996
i wonder how many jews my nazi hk p7m8 killed

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>>729368493
Kek what a retard

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>>729369064
Ok thats it.

HK P7 = 1979
HK =/= Nazi germany

Conclusion:
Unfortantly no killed kikes

Post a pic of the gun, i bet its a Walther PP

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>>729368804
Hail Hydra then

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>>729359894

>>729360228
>not counting your shots

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>>729369204

>>729369439
how many ukraine people did my cz52 killed?

>>729368209
>Mossberg 500 12g
>won the west
How? By shooting geese? Don't be such a faggot.

>>729361057
Ya those r pretty neat

>>729364945
This tbqhwu fammeroni

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>>729368209
>Mossberg 500 won the West

>>729361057
I bet if you shot someone in the heat of a situation with this they wouldn't even notice

>>729359894
Revolvers do jam and when they do, you are fucked

If your pistol jams, stop buying glocks and by something better like the M&P

My older smith has never jammed. I even load spent cases in the mag as part of the stop drills, still cycles them, just have to rack it

Capacity of revolvers is limited

They are fat, hard to conceal

If you want to assassinate someone, don't be such a pussy faggot, use a blade

>>729371123
Please leave.