why does this place even exist? what kind of a man buys shit here?

I buy shit there.

I wouldn't buy a plasma cutter there.

But an adjustable wrench.

Sure.

>>729312868
What is this fucking fallout 4?

>>729312921
holy shit. thats a huge dick
name?

>>729312698
You buy tools here you will need to use one time. I also buy casters to make carts out of here.

I did however buy a sand blast cabinet here that is fine, it's hooked up to an air compressor that is not from here though.

>>729312868
Pretty much this. HVAC tech here. Won't buy an oxy/acetylene or anything dangerous and expensive, but simple shit? It's fucking great.


OP is a fag, as always.

>>729312698
yeah you need cheap tool like hammers and axe etc its pretty good, i wouldn't buy a drill though. even if you do you can return it for your money back or a new tool of equal value.

>>729312698
The guy that's fixing his motorcycle/car on a Sunday and realizes he needs this one stupid tool that he's never going to need again.

>>729312698
I buy shit here all of the time. It's less expensive than the hardware store, and better quality than Walmart shit.

>>729313158
I needed a 1 and 9/16th inch socket that I bought there. Why the fuck would you even make a bolt that retarded size?

one of the guys i work with bought some channellocks from there. Shit broke in half after once use. It was hilarious. Pittsburgh is the worst brand ever.

>>729313323
Jesus! Wtf were you fixing? I've never heard of that size.

>>729313401
You're not supposed to buy shit there for professional use. It's to solve a quick problem.

>>729313725
Wheel hubs on a vintage car transaxle. They were easy to get off, but it's pretty hard to torque to 400 lbs with a crecent wrench stuck in the end of a pipe....

>>729312698
the one who needs a cheap piece of shit that will last one job or is likely to disappear from the job site.
>>729312868
>>729313083
These.

>>729312698
mechanic here, literally all my hand tools are from here

i have only broken a ratchet so far, everything i've gotten from them still works

>>729314478
My neighbor bought a compound miter saw there, and it was so sketchy I would not even use it. Half the bolts were to small for the holes. Funny thing is it was only like $30 less than my DeWalt.

I'm glad everyone seems aware that it's very subpar crap and not tools you would want if you're a professional or a serious hobbyist. The thing is, they're not really inexpensive. It's overpriced subpar crap. I do buy things there from time to time though. Depends on what I need, how badly I need it, and the price.

>>729312698
I buy a lot of bins, saws, tarps, and lye

they don't ask questions and that's a good thing

>>729314701
I went with Craftsman, but the only time I have ever broken anything was by blatantly missusing it. I suspect the same is true for their shit as far as hand tools go. And you are a lunatic of you think I am going to load up on snapon hand tools

>>729312698
Because I'm not going to buy a ton of SnapOn sockets when the nigger shop tech is going to steal them.

Honestly tho they have a few things that are good deals but a whole lot of it is cheap shit too.

>>729312698
Simple. A man that needs a tool to work once and only once. Sometimes a job comes up that you either don't plan on doing again or do so god damned infrequent than Harbor Freight is a cost effective option.

>>729314956
I save the 20% off coupons I get. Funny thing is strippers get mad when you try to tip with coupons. A dollar saved is a dollar paid in my book. Strippers got to fix shit too.

I have impact sockets that I use daily as a diesel tech that are a few years old now and haven't cracked one yet. Also bought a Arbor press from there to do wheel bearings at home. But yeah the tools are sub par but somethings they have are decent

>>729315136
You have a theft problem in your shop? Theft problems in my shop would be dealt with pretty quickly out back.

I had one of those 2 cycle generators, and a solar package from Harbor Freight. Both worked great at my cabin.

>>729315136
We have this same problem at my shop

>>729315043
me too but i bury it all deep

>>729314478
>or is likely to disappear from the job site.

This. Being generally handy and generally nice means people want to borrow tools and I want to trust them. So the first many times they are lent tools, they are lent the cheapest p.o.s. version I can find.

The most trustworthy people are the ones who, upon borrowing something, will tell you if it breaks when they use it.

>>729315499
>>729315405
>>729315136


Again, not sure how you have an internal theft problem want would last....

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>>729315060
Craftsman, Kobalt, Stanley, etc are bretty gud weekend warrior tools or even if you work in a shop and use em daily they shouldn't fail you unless you really abuse them. You can get away with using a Craftsman screwdriver as a punch or pry bar a couple time, no way that will work with HF shit. Also HF ratchets are pretty terrible. The black and green ones are ok but the ones you get in most sets will break even with occaisional use.

SnapOn is too much for most people but nothing wrong with getting something better than HF shit if you take care of your stuff.

>>729312698
As a contractor this place is perfect cheap 1 job tools to break and/or get stolen.

>>729315609
Other thing about Craftsman hand tools is if you break it they replace it for free. I think HF does that too, I think

>>729312698
bought everything I needed to make my own AK from a receiver blank. Then, once I figured out everything and was able to make quality ones, I bought quality equipment.

And dumped the Harbor Freight shit on some Facebook flea market group.

>>729315420
I bought two of the solar packages. What inverter do you use? Do you just use a regular car battery?

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>mfw this is the best thread on /b right now and it is making my poop enjoyable.

>>729315830
Yes, but do you really want to be taking time out of your projects twice a week to replace a shitty Pittsburgh tool that broke?

Most of my Craftsman stuff is US made and people complain since they moved but I still can't complain considering the prices. I try and buy shit when they have the good sales, not the day I realize I need it and have to pay full price.

>>729315830
Duralast and Husky are like that to, lifetime warranty. Even if you chip the chrome.

>>729314956
wtf?!? Their shit is cheap af. I bought an entire gear puller kit for $35. Prob never going to use it again but it worked great to get the races off of a crankshaft.

A Chinamen.

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>>729312698
only ones who are trying to avoid the fbi

>>729316092
Oh, I just have a place where I put broken Craftsman shit, and remember to go to Sears when I get drug to the mall.

On a side note, Sears is super fucking depressing, when I was a kid it was like Candy Land.

The Mexican variety

>>729314301
Fucking axles. Yeah they're crazy big nuts. On my bike the rear nuts are huge and each side is different. I had to buy two big-ass sockets. One for each side.

>>729315283
Gtfo

>>729316184
Some of it is inexpensive and they have a lot of "sales," but generally I find it priced a little high for what it is.

>>729316092
to be honest stanley stuff at walmart is better quality than craftsman nowadays. Go look at them yourself. The craftsman wrenches have so much slop that youd think a 9 year old chinese kid made it.

>>729312698
i went there once in the mid-2000s.
it was a very tiny shop.
wasn't more than 15ft wide and 30ft long.
dim lights
nothing but straight-from-china products
felt more shady than a 99cent store
too scared that the $5 hammer would brake after one strike
never went back until this past summer.
very different experience.
felt like the dollar store version of home depot.

>>729315594
Well niggers man. That's what it is and you can't fire them for stealing cause racism

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I use this place

>>729316404
remember that Sears sold the Craftsman name.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sears-restructuring-brands-analysis-idUSKBN16U2PX

ITT white trashfags who buy cheap shit from China who think they're making America "great again"

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>>729312698
because they have useful shit there. Don't but a fucking car jack you're going to be under though.

>>729316250
100% agree. As a kid Sears was a wonderland. The last time I was there it was almost creepy. Swapping out broken Craftsman tools is still fucking great.

>>729316345
High? Where else are you going to get a brand new 1/2" torque wrench for under $20? Thats not even including sales and coupons. Generally speaking most of their shit is like 20-40% off any name brand stuff.

>>729312698
Tools that I plan to modify for special applications or don't care if I break.
Op is a retarded faggot

>>729316250

Yeah, and the lifetime warranty is a bitch to get them to honor. Now that Craftsman is owned by Black & Decker, you know even if they do replace a tool, it'll be shittier than the broken one you're trading in.

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>>729316575

>>729316501
No, you can take them out back and have a buddy grab his toolbox, and find your sockets that you etched your initials into the inside of, and then beat him

>>729316552
>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sears-restructuring-brands-analysis-idUSKBN16U2PX

yeah i know dipshit. Sears/Craftsman tools have been on a steep quality decline for about 10 years now.

>>729316420
>dollar store version of home depot
Spot on.

>>729315914
I used a cheap 1000 watt inverter from HF. The batts were just a couple of Wally World deep cycles. Now you can get a lot better of ebay, for cheaper. But at the time I didn't have much choice.

>>729316404
A nine year old Chinese kid prolly did.

>>729312698
LOL I STEAL FROM HERE ALL THE TIME

>>729316801
Alright I need to go shopping.

>>729312868
This. Fuck you op.

>>729312698
I got dragged to one of their shit sales by a friend. Nothing but bins of over priced garbage. He buys a knock off Dremel tool and a cordless impact. I spend 2.99 on a chisel and punch set. How can you fuck up a chisel, right? I couldn't even pop the heads off of rivets with them, and the punches bent trying to knock out a 1 inch wide bearing race. The Dremel vibrated so badly i suggested putting a custom tip on it, and giving it to his wife. The impact battery lasted 10 minutes, one time.

>>729316824
>STEAL FROM HERE
Your morals are as shit as your grammar.

>>729316587
That's interesting because I always hear that their jacks are one of the better deals you can get there. Has to be the aluminum race jacks or better tho, the cheap ass steel ones are trash.

I keep debating it but I'm also the one who said it's worth spending money on good tools if you take care of them so I will probably get one from Northern Tool.

>>729316685
I don't know if you know how niggers are when whites are the minority. The last guy we had the problem with came up here with two car loads of people and guns cause we stole his tools. Even tho all we did was take our shit back cause we found out he was getting fired

>>729316921
You did what everyone on this thread is saying not to do, so...

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I got a pair of bent needlenose pliers I use as a roachclip.

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>>729317062

>>729317188
Are you saying I'm autistic or the nigger is autistic?

I only come here to buy hand tools (really only sockets,adapters,extensions) or specialty automotive stuff like a steering wheel puller. Sometimes i get some of the consumable stuff like zip ties/tape etc.

Never would i go in here to buy something that i should rely on for safety. Or power tools of any sort. If im in a real jiffy they always seem to have something on hand to make it easier. I dont expect some of their tools to last me more than one day but i dont expect to break the bank when i walk in either.

>>729312698
Is that the Humble, Tx location?

>>729316824
Why not steal nicer shit from somewhere better?

>>729317300
This

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Drop cloths, shop rags, work gloves are good here.

>>729317280
You, you fucking racist. Wtf does this have to do with harbor freight? Also, I'm sure a "good 'ol boy" would do the same. Hell, I'd come after you if I thought you stole my tools.

>>729312698
>why does this place even exist? what kind of a man buys shit here?

The kind that needs tools? The fuck kind of question is that?

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dis toolbox is highly regarded as best for the money

plenty of one time use stuff is worth buying there, bearing pullers, specialty automotive stuff, etc.

Nothing that uses electricity, and nothing you'll need in an emergency (in car repair kits, etc.)

I bought a jack there and the rear wheel braces were welded on crooked, one was 1/2" higher than the other, damn thing wobbled and squeeked like crazy, never again.

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>>729318000
Tripps of Truth

>>729317506
same.
after gong this past summer, all i bought were simple items.
screw & plastic anchor kit with varying sizes.
aluminum leveler
alligator wire clips
and a metal speed square
tried to find a cheap 10ft electric pole chain saw
couldn't find one so i ordered a black & decker one from amazon.

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>>729318013
I need me one of those. Some anon on /o/ got a hospital cart that was perfect as a small rolling tool box and work bench and shit looks awesome.

I just don't wrench enough to spend a ton on tools but I like having the shit so I feel like a man.

Holy shit you fucking pedestrian. Harbor Freight is the business.

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Twisty Ties and Bungee Cords.
Saw some guy buying a band saw. I said a prayer for him.

>>729318722
That man is more brave then 10 average men, and 1/10th as smart.

>>729318013
i bought that toolbox, the quality is not bad for the money. the jacks last me 4 or 5 years before they die, but almost any jack you can buy today is crap cause almost all are chinese made.

>>729318722
>Saw some guy buying a band saw.
What's the worst that could happen?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI-QsTAuTw

>>729318722
Even their bungee cords are pretty shit, but they will at least get your gf moved outta your house. Plus they're so cheap you can tell her to keep them,

>>729319086
god i miss MadTV

I bought the A/C vacuum pump from there when I replaced all the hvac stuff in my truck and it worked great

>>729316598
>harbor freight
>name brand

pick one

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>>729319058
I have a low profile jack from a 97 Ford Probe that still works to this day.

>>729319499

I'd probe her, if you know what I mean..

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>>729312927

>>729319146
According to one or two youtube vids of former cast members (included those who did both mad and snl) chatting, the cast schedule and pressure on writers was more death than for snl, even though virtually no madtv sketches were done live for audiences.

>>729319602
That's Hillary dude, fyi.

>>729312921
Mind over muh dik.

>>729319922
> even though virtually no madtv sketches were done live for audiences.
well that sucks but i always liked their sketches more than SNL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqZaQKskP-A

>>729320006

and I'm the FBI. my comment therefore still stands

>>729315964
We need a Tool General Thread on /b/.

I bought a set of security bits there for like $12.

They've worked just fine the few times I've needed them.

Wouldn't buy power tools from them. Check out AvE on the jewtoobs. He does teardowns on a lot of the cheap AND high-end tools and gives honest opinions on them. Some of the Harbor Freight stuff will surprise you, but 90% of it is cheap chineesium, and you generally get what you pay for.

>>729312698
Pretty solid endmills their tools will get you by in a pinch. At least they have better ethics than Grizzly. Have a bad business transaction with Grizzly and see how it goes. At least Harbor Freight won't tell, you to go fuck yourself

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>>729312698
I bought an engine lift AND a transmission Jack and the hydraulics in both of them fractured in months.
They didn't drop suddenly but it's still scary. I've seen car jacks fail right in front of my face and it's terrifying. Even snap on has faulty shit. Had 5 ton Jack from them that lost oil and wouldn't hold anymore. Came in in the morning and the car was on the ground.

>>729319395
Learn to read, faggot. He said their shit is cheaper than name brand.

>>729320921
Some of their stuff chooches ok.

>>729320469
/diy/ bro, one of the least toxic boards on all the chans.

A regular tool thread on /b/ would devolve into dick pics and trannys pretty quickly.

>>729320206
>well that sucks
Not really. As you can see the infamous "Scented Farts" sketch would simply not have been possible to do live:

youtube.com/watch?v=vwioZMqQXDQ

(or maybe it would have -- improv can be a lot like Dark Knight Rises where they said you can only make that jump if you don't have the rope to save you from falling).

Anyway, one of the big reasons for doing the sketches pre-recorded was to reduce pressure on the cast, but that was countered by (according to the interviews) way more time that the cast had to spend in makeup, rehearsal (as much to help the writers out as for making the sketch work -- their jobs were secure but the writers' were not), and directing.

>>729315526
How deep?

>>729320206
I shouldn't have said "virtually no," but anything with any level of production or heavy makeup (e.g. impressions) was not. I don't have any idea % wise beyond that.

>>729321265

Yeah, but the other stuff, the schmoo just comes right out of her and then the pixies get out.


KEEP YOUR DICK IN A VICE

>>729312927
If you don't know what a plasma cutter is then you are the kind of person that shops there

>>729313323
U-bolt nuts on semi trucks get that big on drive axles

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>>729321316
Thanks for the heads-up!

Here, kiss my sister.

>>729312698
>why does this place even exist? what kind of a man buys shit here?

Butt hurt MAC salesfag

>>729316598
>buying torque wrenches from harbor freight
>expecting them to be even close to 30% accurate

>>729316250
sears will be gone in the next 2-3 years

>>729317160
fuck I wouldn't mind tweaking the the knobs and stumming that airline

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>>729323819
>Being this butthurt

I got a crowbar for like 4 bucks on sale, it crows bars great.

>>729312698
i get pve foam for cosplay stuff from there.

>>729324356
Sooner than that.

>>729312698
In a pinch I picked up one of their cordless drills, I beat the shit out of it and it's still going strong.

>>729312698
I work here

Harbor freight has a few key customer bases

anyone buying a tool to use it once (this is the biggest and encompasses all the others)
retired white men
people buying tools for a small business (as others have stated, not expensive stuff, just axes and the like)
people who buy 50 cent razors to get a free item
and this one guy who literally buys a bunch of stuff in bulk on discount just to resell it (cool guy, honestly would prefer more customers like him)

>>729315043
we don't sell lye or bins jackass

i worked there for about 3 weeks and they had me moving boxes of hammers so i quit fuck that place and fuck Tom the manager

>>729323860
Who said anything about buying a torque wrench there? I bought the socket there because I needed a weird as fuck size for a 1960's Bentley becuause britbongs decided that was the right bolt.

>>729323819
>Warning: Remove cats from room when painting.

lost.

>>729324444
There he is. Mr. Quads. Thinking he's all hot shit.

>>729323819
my god these fucking key things

I work register and I swear they put some magic spell on these things to make every child need to play with them.
The keys and the 50 cent razors are night next to the counter and I can't have a customer with a kid and have the damn kid not play with the fucking knives

>>729312698
Someone who's smart with their money and knows what they're doing with a damn wrench. You don't need fucking Snap-on to break a nut/bolt loose or pry a pump away from a mating surface. If you're having trouble or keep rounding shit or breaking shit, it's the user. The only stuff worth spending big bucks on is specialty tools, like a good torque wrench, micrometers, or carbide bits. I haven't had a use for most of my MAC wrenches except for professional appeal and the occasional moment where I needed more leverage, due to them being slightly longer than typical wrenches...

>>729326252
Eh, I sort of agree, but a nicer set of hand tools feel nice. Also the screwdrivers are garbage.

>>729326164
>have the damn kid not play with the fucking knives

Maybe put the bin with the knives higher up so they can't reach it?

>>729312698
It's like Princess Auto in Canada. You'd go there to buy a screwdriver, that's about it

>>729326252
Honestly it's not always the user

A lot of the stuff that comes through my store gets returned because it was already broken when we sold it.

>>729326606
Maybe I came on a little harsh, but in most cases, I see a young guy with expert tools and a pompous attitude and sucks ass as a wrench turner. I will agree though, HF's screwdrivers suck. Craftsman makes great screwdrivers for the price.

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>>729327206

>>729326746
The harbor freight I work at is micromanaged to the nth degree

take a look at the cashier screen next time you're in store and you should see the script we have to read from to get your phone number and email

We have basically no control over anything and have no way of bringing complaints or suggestions upstairs, and this is coming from a guy who's been working for over a year and has been coming up with ways to make the business MORE MONEY from day one.

>>729326252
>and the occasional moment where I needed more leverage, due to them being slightly longer than typical wrenches...

I'll have to disagree with you on that. The shitty pot metal wrenches and sockets you get at HF WILL break under a normal load where good tools would not.

I'm not saying you need Snap-On wrenches or some other name brand, but I'd buy something like Kobalt from Lowe's before I buy HF chinese bullshit.

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>>729327206
>>729327252

>>729326252
You sound like an ignorant nigger who mostly assembles crap from ikea or walmart.

>>729312698
The pittsburgh hand tools have a life time warranty. Ive replaced pin punches, axes, and files that were used improperly no questions asked. I bought impact sockets there as well for the same reason. The pnuematic grinders and earthquake impact gun are actually really well made and take a beating. Just oil them.

>>729326878
To each their own. Not every tool is going to work as advertised, but in most cases, there's only so much you can do, to make a wrench better than it's competitor. Nonetheless, a lot of the time, it's user error. Dudes will blame rounding off a nut because "because the tool sucks", but they don't tell you they used a 12-point 13mm socket on a 6-point 1/2 inch nut, which is retarded.

>>729327301
i need that 8-function electronic multi-tool

>>729327206
>>729327252
>>729327301
Holy shit these killed me

>>729327313
Yeah, because there's Skytraks and front loaders at a Walmart. Get out of here.

I had my foundation need work.
Bought a 10 ton bottle jack from HF.
Worked well enough for the repairs.
Now it's rusting at the back of the shed.

>>729327206
and here's the fucking free coupon shit

I hate it. Honestly I do.
EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE gets free shit, and that's why they aren't in stock when you get there.
Because even though we stock in the hundreds on EVERY GOD DAMN free item, those will be drained within 2 weeks.
And it seems that no one ever wants to bring the item up front with them when they come up to check out, and of course the free shit is towards the back of the store to get people to look at more shit to by, so we have to shop for the people who could not be bothered. This happens DOZENS of times a DAY!!!

and if someone decides to load up on free shit and is told ONLY ONE. Well now I'm the fucking bad guy. Not harbor freight for only putting the "1 free item a day" policy on a sign smaller than a business card at the register in the store AND ONLY THERE!!!

.....
so I yeah hate free shit

>>729327299
Kobalt is okay, I like Husky stuff for small stuff just because their ratchets feel nice. As for HF tools breaking under normal load, arguably, I haven't had that happen regularly yet, the most that's happened is an electric drill burned up after a few months of use restoring an old truck, and a 3/8 ratchet finally gave and sheared, but it was a throw away anyways. I'm not saying HF is the BEST, but I don't see it as unacceptable for any level of technician. Their Earthquake impacts are right on par with Snap-on as far as torque and control, you just have to baby them a bit more because of the lack of fancy features.

>>729316532
D you live in Beecher?

>>729312698
hazard frieght isnt all bad nigger
reciprocating saws are decent
center punches
ratcheting wrenches
sledge
cutting wheels
only thing i get from there

>>729327299

Same guy as >>729328235

To be fair, I don't just jump right into breaking bolts with longer tools right away, as I'm sure many folks here don't either. I make it regular practice to use a blow torch and wax, hand impact, and always keep a mixture of ATF and Acetone or Kroil to get those stubborn fasteners loose.

>>729327750
Probably not but you still sound like one

>>729312698
Need a tool for a one or two time use Harbor freight is the place. Need a tool for a lifetime go get a name brand tool (not craftsman)

>>729312698
Holy shit. That picture is in New Braunfels Texas.

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The 24-count alkaline batteries are pretty good deal with the coupon.

>>729327275
So you probably can't just tell your boss, "Look, all I'm saying is we have an annoyance here that could easily be problematic, and adding 10 inches is all it takes to satisfy the issue. If you don't believe me, ask your wife."

>>729328983
I don't see your point. All I'm saying is there's lots of tools that are perfectly acceptable in many applications, and a lot of the time, the hate comes from misuse, and other trusted tools you should spend money on, because they're tried and true.

>>729329481
Use tiny url for the link
kx9fck3

>>729327301
I totally want that hand-cranked chainsaw.

Actually maybe I more want a hand-cranked gatling gun like in Bioshock.

>>729329739
1. my boss is a woman
2. the key knives are on the top rung of the shelves already (short shelves) and the 50 cent blades are on a counter

>>729329830
Eh I will agree with a lot of the time the fault comes from retards using tools wrong. But imo a lot of thier stuff is shit. I would not use it for any heavy work, no power tools or anything that was supporting anything in was under.

>>729330551
>my boss is a woman
Depending on who among you might butter your bread on which sides, only a mild alteration to the line would make it just as funny, or perhaps even more so?

2. The point is to make them high enough so the kids can't reach them, yes? Thus the "adding inches" notion is still relevant. If the counter is too low, stack them on top of a box with a big smiley face. If the shelves are too low, add more -- you're in a fucking hardware store.

I do network installs, low voltage cabling, etc and purchased 4 sets of glow rods for $10/ea on clearance. Compared to the Klein, they had twice the rods at 3rd of the price.

>>729332241
dude I got called into the office because I wasn't reading off of the damn script when asking for costumer info

harbor freight corporate micromanages literally everything and it makes it horrible to work in

>>729331521
Hey, user preference is different. By all means, if you know what you're doing, and can make it work, you're the one making that money. I'll use HF wrenching stuff, Milwaukee grinders, Lincoln welders, Cornwell tubing and threading tools, and Bluepoint DMMs and others will disagree. I stand by the big dogs I.E. MAC, Proto, Snap-on, and Matco and will always treasure my stash, but if money and budgeting are in question, you're just trying to save some cash and get the same job done or if you're just a hobbyist, it's always good to outsource and get just the necessities. Bashing on tools to me, is like bashing on vehicle brands, each has their downsides, features and their perks.

I build my own shed and roof my entire roof and shit around the house/cars using HF tools. Only pussy faggots who does know shit care about brands. I owns almost every single "name" brands btw

>>729333652
>>729333652
Edit doesn't

Harbor Freight is great and so are their power tools. Most people don't realize that you need to burn the motor in before use at harbor freight. Run a powertool for at least 15 minutes before any real use and it will last 10+ years.

>>729334198
the fuck kinda high are you?

If it doesn't move, you can buy it at HF.

If you need it for one project, you buy it at HF.

If you intend for it to be abused with little expectation of using it a long time, you buy it at HF.

You buy it at HF if it isn't something you need for a prolonged period.

>>729329093
What's wrong with craftsman? The warranty is what does it for me

>>729336289
Buy tools for the inherent quality, not the warranty.

>>729325129
ayyyeeee fellow HF person. This is all completly true as far as demographics.

What's wrong with the world we live in where such shit products are so commonplace? Cheap ass tool sets that will undoubtedly fail after minimal use should be banned. Send those companies back to china. It's not just tools: a number of household items are the same way. Gas cans. What was wrong with the old style can that had a tube to pour from and a cap on the end? Now you've gotta massage and basically give it a hand job to pour gas!

>>729312698
I work with a guy that only buys here. I swear he does it just to say his shit is broke, to get out of jobs.