Ask a guy going through his third day of withdrawals anything.

>>729227157
for alcohol?

>>729227338
Yup.

>>729227394
whats it like?

>>729227394
how much do you have to drink to even become an alcoholic/have withdrawals

>>729227157
how irritable are you?

>>729227157
Why? It's so delicious and helps you forget your problems.

>>729227500

Sucks. I'm doing it with just friends and family in order to avoid a detox center but I keep on fucking up the schedule.

I started out managing the period where you have the shakes pretty well but I fucked up the count of spare beer I have, got desperate, put a few drops of rubbing alcohol into some grape juice. Realized that was dangerous/desperate and stupid, induced vomiting and drank a shit ton of water. Now I have no liquor in my system.

That's almost square one.

>>729227587

It takes a while, depends on your size, age, how long you have been drinking and the kind of liquor. In my case it was between 8 and 12 tall boys for roughly 6 months, everyday.

>>729227630
Did, I'm so pissed of, scared, confused. Its a combination of the worst emotions.

>>729227680

My family is insisting and I'm pretty much fed up, plus there are some other issues that don't make being drunk all the time smart.

>>729227940
does smoking weed help? try it

>>729228353

I'm considering switching over to pot but it depends on where you get it in my area. A lot of the shit here is laced with coke or crack.

Its not like Idaho with huge cornfields where farmers can hide their dope crops.

>>729227157
have you ever fucked a giraffe?

>>729228538

Nope. Too busy fucking your mom b/ro.

Fellow recovering alcoholic here.
We're probably the only sober people on 4chan atm.
Fuck weekends.

>>729228683
my mom is dead and buried. she also was trans before she died and had a cock. bet you had fun.

>>729228179
dude I'm sorry man, I'm not an full alcoholic but tend to get angry when I don't have alcohol for a few days

>>729228817

Do you still drink?

>>729228857

Gobbled that knob, fucked it up its ass. Wait until it was dead, dug it up and fucked it again.

>>729229004
Can't. I'm ordered by the courts to refrain from drinking and have to take an etg test to make sure I stay sober or it's back to jail. Fucking sucks.
Fuck AA btw. I hate those cocksucking assholes even though having a sponser would probably make this shit a little easier.

>>729228869

I'm the same way but there are levels. I get what people think when they see me frustrated and dodging to the liquor store when I'm dealing with assholes or just want to zone out.

I once saw this native dude in a bathroom chugging rubbing ethanol from a bottle. He was huge. I couldn't believe he was even alive drinking that shit. He probably cut it with something but yeah. Don't let it get out of hand man. Take a few days off every now and then and find something else to occupy your mind and time.

>>729229073
oh, ok

Ausfag here, you from America? What do you fags consider alcoholism?

How long you been an alcoholic and how did u fall into it?

>>729229423
Having more than 2 beers a week.

hey man i got a bag of heroine. can you watch my house while i shoot up and pass out on the couch for a few hours. these damn kids in the neighborhood are always stealing my dope while im asleep.

>>729228518
lol did someone tell you that? I don't think that ever happens, there's literally no reason for anyone to do that. That's like saying a gift shop is replacing the fake gold rocks with real gold rocks and selling them for the same price. Coke is fun and expensive as hell and can't really be smoked. It would be huge waste of money for anyone.

>>729229160

You got pinched, huh?

It happens to the best of us. Its so hypocritical because most of the judges, lawyers and cops have their places where they smoke, snort and drink themselves into an absolute mess.

Once had a Drunk Cop (no reason at all) stop traffic for 30 seconds, direct it (wobbling on his feet) get back in his cruiser and speed off.

lol and those are the people who get to call other's drunks and addicted.

>>729229530
Kek, nah seriously?

>>729229595
yep really disgusted with this "justice" system.
fuck pigs and lawyers and judges. there really is a layer of hell reserved for these sick fucks.

>>729229423

Candy actually. It's pretty all over the place tbh. Some places drinking heavily is a right of passage to be given up for harder drugs right when you hit between 25 - 28. You binge heavily on the weekend. So in a group of 15 males, that are about 25, you'd take the weekend and drink four or 5 - 24's, a few shots, then go to the pub and get 3 pitchers. Then come down on a Sunday and beat the hangover with more booze and sleep until you flushed your system with water and tylenol.

Other regions are what I am assuming Australia is like where you can drink unapologetically.

>have successfully w/d off alcohol, Xanax, and THC all at once
>was heavy use for years
>only had 1 seizure
>resulted in s concussion too
>get on my level

>>729229439

lel. I don't really consider myself an alcoholic but not long.

I think around the time I really needed to curb my drinking was around the time I wanted to get married. So, 6 months ago.

>>729229530

Jesus. Who came up with that rule?

>>729230011
So.. Drinking on the weekend with friends makes you considered an alcoholic?
What the flying fuck?

>>729230293
Psychologists. Fucking quacks.

>>729229582

Dude, there is no way there is THC that does this shit and yes, I have a very good friend who did it all who told me that.

I think the reason they evenly dispersed the coke amongst themselves and smoked it was for just that reason.

Two birds. One stone.

>>729229777

Yup.

Lawyer up only if you absolutely have to. Don't call the cops unless you don't have any friends to help you.

>>729230470
Oh wow, you were serious

>>729230419

Its the amount. If you spread that kind of booze out across a week, none-stop and change the variable of friends - the argument can be made that the people involved are drinking too much/not spending enough of their down time not being active and productive members of society.

>>729230011
>24s
>pitchers

Please define these/with how many standards

>3 days out
>talking about withdrawals

Fuck off you pussy bitch, if you aren't in the hospital by 48+ hours, you don't have shit for withdrawals. Let me know when you put down half a handle or more a night for a few years. Then go cold turkey for, not even 3 days, 2 fuckin days, you weakass, you're a sorry excuse for a drunk.

>>729230786

Its a lot of pseudo science too.

If you think about what rehab centers really do, its hold up the state or your insurance company so that they can tell you who you are. Its a trade off:

"We'll give you a safe place to come down, give you liberium and an IV and monitor your vitals but we want somewhere in the 10's of thousands of dollars and to fuck you over so you never get another well paying job again."

>>729231026
24 bottles of beer.
A mug of roughly 60+ So, three or four pints if I'm not mistaken.

>>729231193
Half a "handle" is roughly 15 standards yeah?

>>729231629
A handle is 1.75 liters, and I'm talking vodka, not beer.

I don't know what a standard is.

>>729231193
>> if you aren't in the hospital by 48+ hours

What does this mean?

>>Let me know when you put down half a handle or more a night for a few years.

Bro, in my prime I would drink you under the table for two days straight. Then fuck a bitch, drunk a letre of water and make 1400 that week. Not even batting an eyelash about a hangover.

Good luck bro, been through some gnarly opiate withdraws myself. It'll get better in a few days. If it doesn't and you keep drinking, try detox. Hope thigns get better for you

>>729231291
Yep
Part of the recovery plan is to get a job, otherwise they make you go to fuckass meetings everyday.
But the shitty thing is, once you get a job, they take away your fucking medicaid and my job isn't going to pay for this shit, emergencies only.
My bitch of a counselor doesn't want to let me go either even though I keep telling her I can't pay for the treatment and the judge said it was okay for me to be discharged.
I swear she's in love with me or something, fucking women man.

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Sadly OP, im day 53 from withdrawls here. I was only drinking for 1 year and i have no intentions of drinking at all, i still have heart issues that comes and goes from this shit, how long where you drinking?
I have been smoking on and off for years, but, i can't smoke as i get increased heart rate, blurry vision, numbness in body, light headed, slight tremors, and dehydration/pale skin/dried lips and hands.

It's gotten miles better but I'm still having issues, i can somewhat smoke now but no more then 2 hits or the symptoms happen, also, check your blood sugers, at 20 i had hypoglycemia because of this crap but its not permanent, just eat protein and try to get natural glucose and stay away from processed sugers and food for a couple weeks.
Pic is of me having what seemed like a attack after smoking a bowl... i miss getting high normally.

>>729231840
48 hours dry.

For as much as you say you drank, I'd think you knew that. I know you're full of shit because when your drinking that much, you need medical attention after 24 hours dry. I've been there twice now, quit bullshitting, you're on an anonymous image board.

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>>729231821
A standard drink

>>729231821
I was drinking a pint of whiskey a day for a year and had a seizure, also, im the one above with the pic, im white, but not that white

>>729231930

I'll be cool. I'm basically okay. I have 911 on speed dial but its not that bad. I just don't want it to get worse.

I was like the fool up there putting down vodka and rum, realized it wasn't smart. So, I kept pretty safe with beer. I like beer and I want to keep drinking it but its gotta be a little more responsible if I'm fucked up like this between times when I can get it.

Plus, I'm not really in a space to be fucking with booze. There are a lot of people around me who have some fucked up opinions about my drinking when I know they're down for all types of shit that I wouldn't touch with a pole.

>>729231930
Thanks, tho.

>>729232355
875 ml of high strength spirit. So that's your standard.

>>729232491
For sure. Alcohol w/ds are dicey since you can seize up and die, but I'm guessing if you're able to type that's not gonna happen lol.

>>729231193
I had a seizure on day three and i never went as i never told anyone about it.... your fucking dumb man. Also, had every symptom you could google outside of auditory hallucinations and tactical hallucinations. I had dialeted pupils aswell for some reason.

>>729232010

And a lot of the time you're flagged in some system if you want to do anything that might dig you out of your debt.

Want to operate a heavy machinery? Join the Army? Be a doctor, Lawyer, College Professor? You better hope they never found out you were institutionalized. Otherwise you have to do a whoooole lot of explaining.

are you fucking nuts? alcohol and benzo cold turkey detox is potentially fatal. Go to a facility, they will wean you down on some benzo and make sure you are not dead on a regular basis. you get regular smoke breaks too.

I don't have any further questions because I have been there - benzo withdrawal is about the same as alcohol. I have detoxed from almost every drug possible to enjoy, and only after days of benzo draught, I noticed that I was withdrawing from opioids and stimulants simultaneously. GABA agonists are the worst by far. opioid detox can be managed to a tolerable state with other drugs to mitigate symptoms. stimulants you just have to keep away from anything you love because you are gonna hate it later, sleep as much as possible, fill the gaps with mediocre snacks and shit TV, and accept you will not be having fun. Marijuana, you gottta be kidding, I experienced no symptoms after like 6 years of daily use. None.

GABA agonists like alcohol and benzos, while I consider them useful in limited circumstances, are a unique breed of evil to detox. I mentioned that you can die - it even happens in facilities occasionally - but you are really playing with fire at home. My sis, a professional at such a facility has seen fatalities even with a 30 day taper, recommends a 50 day taper instead, and further suggests that you arrive drunk as fuck because it can take time to get your paperwork and treatment set up.

In addition to non-trivial risk of death and certain nerve damage, you are looking at a really horrifying few days, followed by months of missing alcohol every damn second of every day because you didn't taper. I had hallucinations - not the fun ambien kind, the ones that involve spiders. Every sudden noise spiked my blood pressure to the extent that I could hear my heart like it was a jackhammer. Sleep is out of the question, so even without all that, you are not functioning.

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>>729232355
>4.8 Vol full strenght beer
really now? thats regular beer mate, below thats is just piss water. Stronger beer here is about 8.5 Vol

>>729232711
Well fucking die then you piece of shit. If you can't seek medical help for something so easily fixed, fucking let yourself die before you procreate and make equally retarded children.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to /b/.. fucking idiots aplenty.

>>729232220

You're trolling me.

>>729232780
these faggots are like the whole lot of 4chan, a bunch of know-nothing niggers talking like they know shit. Yeah.....Nah.

>>729232841
Im day 53 clean you dumbass. Also, i couldn't afford a ambulance, im 20, can't drive in my condition, parents where sleeping, and i seized up out of nowhere you cunt.

>>729232805
Yeah its just a guide to explain what a standard drink is, we aren't measuring cocks bro calm down.

>>729232258

I have friends who work at hospitals who hook me up with iv's.

Going to a hospital is hit or miss if you go to a hospital. They run your blood and if it looks like they needed to help you detox - that can be as bad for you as going to rehab on your record.

>>729232999
Well, let me help you with your troubles.. KYS.

>>729233096
I don't know where your from but in the US medical records are private. The only time anything effects your rights is when you are checked in 5150.. Not if you voluntarily checked in to detox and get clean.

>>729231840
Acting like you drink hard but have no clue about withdrawals stfu. The other poster was right.

If OP was truly a complete alcoholic it would absolutely retarded and a vet easily fatal choice for his family to keep him from supervised medical care dieing his detox. Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs to detox off of. DTs are no joke. He very well may have had a serious drinking problem and doing dumb shit and drinking too much lead to family intervention. Good for him, clean up dude.

But if he was truly an alcoholic on day 3 off the sauce he wouldn't just have a bit of the shakes

>>729232886
No, im not. Day 53 sober and i can barely smoke.

My withdrawls consisted of: Massively increased heart rate, dialeted pupils, hot flashes and cold sweats, whole body tremors, physical pain, dehydrating delerium/confusion, blurry vision that comes and goes, and as shit as it was a seizure. There where more symptoms, i just barely remember my own withdrawls. I was in hell for weeks.

>>729232622

I'm basically a healthy guy outside of this. The only thing is I know its starting to get out of hand when I'm shaking like a leaf.

I had a bad one the other day and was like "Ahh hell no." Cut the drinking down, went through my paces.

Puking, sweating, IV, oral rehydration and light intake of booze to keep the shakes at bay while until they stop all together.

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>>729233112
I can fell the edge nigger.

>>729233310
RIGHT

>>729232945
citation needed. I will cut my dick off if you can produce one that directly contradicts my post. Or would you prefer to hear my credentials and fuck off?

>>729232220

Dude if you're for real, learn how to make cannabutter, then google a recipe for brownies. Boom, no smoking, all stone. I made the switch to edibles because I was getting bad lungs from all my pot smoking, occasionally smoke a bowl now, good lungs & i'm stoned all the time.

>>729229686
I doubt it, you start being classified as an alcoholic when your regular consumption of alcoholic beverage starts taking on problematic forms. High long period consumption with difficulty reducing, a strong urge to drink, start to neglect other responsibilities etc.

Once your drinking is becoming a problem (health, jobs etc.) in the rest of your life you're likely an alcoholic.

Just having a few drinks or getting drunk every now and then is not an issue and is not alcoholism.

>>729232841
Speaking of idiots

Its so irritating when people like you show up. Oh just seek medical attention bro or else i hope you die

How fucking dumb are you then? I swear all the jackasses that come on here to yell at people and kyspost are the pathetic broken kids that were bullied their whole lives so they come here and chimp out to feel like they're superior

>>729233502
Bunch of know it all children on this board.

Omg dude one day I drank like 20 beers I'm gonna go brag to actual alcoholics like that's either impressive or something to be proud of. Absolutely clueless

>>729233538
Actually edibles make it worst sadly, I've been growing my own for quite sometime. I can make anything from cleaned sift to coconut oil tinctures. I can't smoke anything but one or two puffs of somthing sedative or euphoric, anything energetic or stimulating gives me terrible symptoms.

>>729232711

I'm not going cold turkey. I'm tapering. Plus, I'm being monitored. There are a lot of redundancies in place. I'm not as bad as a lot of other and beer is the best alcohol to taper off with.

Believe me. I know it sucks. I know physicians who are willing to get me into intake in time but I have been to see a doctor already. I'm pretty sure if I am still experiencing symptoms after this I'm going.

>>729233310

That's what I'm saying but like I'm saying. I'm going to speak to someone about it.

>>729233867
Tapering okay that makes a lot more sense. Good luck dude.

I have been a functioning alcoholic for about 5 years now. Every few months i take a couple weeks and really drop how much i drink and take days off. I'm very concerned about my health. I can't imagine how many years I've knocked off my life

>>729233550
Well its an addiction or dependency so I guess the only person that really knows is yourself.

>>729233867
That actually was my issue, i quit cold turkey and ended up having withdrawls i didn't think i was going to have. First 7 months where a half pint to a pint of jack daniels no more then 5 days a week, then the last 5 months where everyday at a pint atleast. Last day i drank was on feb 19/20. Had a 1/5th of jack and binge drank it withen 24 hours. I was contemplating my habbit so i quite cold turkey.

>>729234193
I agree completely, however, I suppose when it really gets problematic as an outsider you'll start to notice it. When they show up drunk to work or something.

>>729234105

Yeah, my best friends dad is a functioning alcoholic. My understanding is that besides (liver disease, certain organ damage) a big threat to alcoholics are falls. Falling down i.e. losing coordination and falling.

>>729234375
You quit cold turkey?

What was that like.

See this is what I'm trying to get in my head. It seems like there are roughly 3 schools of thought:

1) You're an addict, there is no going back. You need detox and to forget about whatever shit you were on for good.

2) You're an addict but you're a functioning addict. You will get the shakes if you don't have your fix but if you can live with your habit while you take on the risks of everything that comes with your addiction - good luck.

3) You're an addict and if you try to ween yourself off on your own, you're screwed. This is not the same as cold turkey.

Like were does "Enjoy Responsibly" come back into any of these.

>>729234717
It depends on the person.

I have never fallen down drunk. I retain motor functions extremely well. Most of the time my speech isnt noticeably different.

It fucks with my head though. I become very stupid and impulsive, I blackout so fucking easy and i just spew bullshit. I have only puked maybe 3 times the past 4 years or so and like I said ive never fallen.

I'm in good shape and exercise regularly. I'll literally go for a 4 mile run with a water bottle and a flask. But still i get heart palpitations, my blood pressure is not where an otherwise healthy 27 year should sit and i experience regular abdominal pain bad acid reflux and hypogkycemia.

Booze hits everyone's brain a little different it seems but its fucking a bunch of organs no matter what

>>729235007
Worst 70+ hours of my life!
I was not a addict and only drank to get drunk and listen to music. When i quit it was on my own two feet. I have no intention of drinking and when i quit it hit me like a sach of bricks.
Look up alcohol withdrawls on google, take everything but hallucinations and thats what i had. (i had a visual that made a rainbow stream around all lights in my house but nothing tactil or auditory) still fighting but only against my organs and brain.

>>729235414
How much and what were you drinking when you stopped?

>>729235414
NM, saw your post above

>>729227157
Are you my boss ?

>>729235553
It got to be more as i quite because of tolerance.
It started with a half pint whiskey or 2 40'oz light beers. About 6 month in it turned into a pint of whiskey or 112 oz's of beer, then the last 3 months was a pint and maybe 1 or 2 mikes harder lemonaides (mango, 32 oz., 8%alcohol) or a 40oz and 32oz beer. Ot was costing almost $20 a day. Everyday. My last drinks was a binge on 24 hours from a 1/5th of jack daniels to my dome. Im not a mentally addicted person and i was able to quit right off the bat. Should have thought through it more but life said fuck me for wanting to be clean XD....

>>729235381

Same as me. The only thing I don't like is the stigma of being considered a drunk and having people lord it over me.

I have experienced a couple spills but it was a heavy night. Wine did me in. You gotta watch out for wine.

>>729235414
I never had tactile or what I think is tactile.

Did you go cold turkey, everyone keeps saying its dangerous or are you still drinking albeit lightly?

>>729235853
I've been really bad with beer my whole life and now I do a job with random on call bullshit. I'm gonna land a DUI or piss off a customer at this rate.

I'm at 8 natty ice a night atm, just to sleep really.

Big question, is sober better?

>>729227940
Good thing you didnt have a heart attack.

I need to do what youre doing soon, but nobody really knows how much i drink tbh.

What advice can you give me on starting down this godly path?

>>729235921
Tactile is seeing shit that isn't their so i can't say that i have.

But, i do not drink at all. I can't even smoke. But, i do have beers in my fridgefor a friend who left them, they have been here for 20 days and honestly i don't want to even look at them. I fucking hated the withdrawls and my ego makes me refuse addiction.

>>729236032
Absolutly, mysic is worst though.
In fact, being high on life is real when your withdrawls where off. Id seriously take into consideration of not going cold turkey like myself. It's fucking brutal. You will hate life for weeks from depresion from chemical imbalances on a suicidal level for no reason which was my biggest problem. Wouldn't kill myself but fuck i just wanted to die for the first 3 weeks. A clinic would help you aswell.

>>729236032
Nothing taste like fit taste. And you can't maintain fitness without a majority of soberness

>>729236032
>> Big question, is sober better?

That is the big one, isn't it?

Story time. I'm at the hospital getting checked. Line up is huge and I'm like "Damn, I could use a beer while I'm waiting for this doctor to show up." Then I'm like "Damn, what am I an alcoholic? Just go wait." Just talking to myself in my head. I start to chat up this super rich looking dude with this smoking hot girlfriend and when she goes to the bathroom for a minute he leans over to me and say, "I know what you're thinking. Its time to go do a line, right?"

There's a good chance a lot more people than you think are on something and are more than recreational users.

>>729236390
I'm a 42yo 155lb ripped dynamo that works out 3 times a week and can pull a furnace into an attic with one hand.

I have very good self discipline, I just like beer to zone out a bit and sleep. My dad was the same way with beer, he quit at 80ish and immediately got aphasia, he's still around, but the poor guy can barely speak anymore.

>>729235769
Why do you ask?

You're fired.

>>729236655
>aphasia
Damn that sucks

>>729236655
Oh and 6'1"

>>729236174
Fair enough. Cold Turkey worked.

>>729236390
Work out. Eat right. Drink to zone out. Fair enough.

>>729236174
Tactile means touch. When you're feeling something that's not there.

>>729236774
What's aphasia?

How is he doing?

>>729236774
It's probably going to destroy my current relationship too. I have to move back to look after him and I doubt my current GF who is a smoking hot RN, will ditch her family to go with me.

A lot on my mind lately, thanks anons

>>729236911
It's where you can't coherently form understandable speech no matter how hard you try. You speak and only gibberish comes out basically.

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My brother was the a drunk, he was drunk from dusk until dawn, took him two tries to quit, but he did and has been off it for almost 4 years now. You can do it if you put your mind to it OP.

>>729236390
Should of said "nothing feels like fit feels" as alcoholics don't drink for taste.

>>729236933
Try being me, I'm OP b/ro.

I'm getting married and my fiancee is super traditional about sex and booze. She's an honest hardworking woman and she takes care of me but if I don't show her that I have at least THIS under control. She is 100% gonna bail on me.

Very few women stick around with a guy who had to go to rehab. Look at Jen and Ben. YES I JUST BROUGHT UP ENTERTAINMENT NEWS!

>>729237123
Youre literally me

My fiance is an engineer but I dropped out of school my last semester because I missed three classes being hungover. The prof dropped me preventing graduation and I dropped the school right after.

She'll put up with a lot of shit from me. This school thing, having a poor paying job, but rehab would cause a breakup or divorce no doubt

>>729237123
Good thread my man. I haven't even been to a doctor since like 7th grade, so rehab is not going to work for me. Never even crossed my mind.

I think you'll pull this off just fine, Something life has taught me is, time will balance everything out if you try your best.

>>729237402
I feel your pain. I did fine in school and was moving on when things went tits up with another chick. It really hurt my life but I've been fighting the good fight for a while now and met this amazing woman.

That being said, no relationship is worth your life but if you haven't taken the steps before going that route, I'd say you hadn't exhausted all your options. Seeing a family doctor. Tapering. Quitting when you no longer experience negative symptoms of misuse.

I think the worst thing you could do is keep your friends and family away and stopping being active, then no one knows whats going on with you/can't help or keep tabs and rush you to emergency if you need serious help

>>729237412
Thanks, I feel like I learned more than I even thought I could explain.

I'm taking everyones advice.

>>729227680
Not OP, but speaking from my own experience - being an alcoholic is a little fun at first because yea you're drunk all the time and your problems just kinda fuck off. I remember the early days of it and even knowing I had a problem, I didn't really care because again I was just drunk all the time and my brain wasn't functioning properly enough to let me realize the severity of it all. But once it catches up and you realize how far you've slid, I can assure you there is absolutely zero fun in it. Your whole life is a prison and your problems have grown and grown while you were choosing to ignore them

>>729239265
SO complete sobriety is better? More fun and freedom?

>>729239463
OP here.

I think its a split between who you are, who you want to be and who the people you're with are getting from being with you.

Nobody who is completely sober who isn't also a dick, I'd assume would need to have a drink.

Somebody who drinks all the time and is fun but only shows that side of their personality when they're shit faced and messy I'd also assume to be kind of a burden.

I think if what happens is that you quit on your own and have let yourself be monitored by friends and family with their fingers on 911 for a while then your bad habits become old habits and you get to find new ways to get something out of life either than being a completely sober unfun dick or a drunk you have to look after all the time.

>>729239969
My way of drinking has always been weird. I drink too much, but mainly just to sleep regularly.

I never interact with friends or family while drunk, never have for working on 2 decades. I have zero medical problems, lean and fit, but I feel I can do better breaking the habit. But I also feel it may not be necessary and it's tearing my mind apart.

>>729239463
My bad, b/ro.

What I mean is that if any of your habits have become unhealthy for you and the people around you. You might have to talk to people about it.

Complete sobriety works for some people and the people around them. Completely wasted all the time works for others and the people around them.

If you think its time for a change if you've spent a long time drinking, go see a physician talk about the best ways to shore up your body and what kind of activities would best help with that.

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>>729240515
My GF is an RN, I don't do docs. The issue is just too complicated to figure out properly, but this thread has been great.

Again, GL my friend.

>>729228857
You mum died to get away from her cunt kids

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>>729240722

NP. I had a rough few days and it doesn't quite seem to be over yet but this thread kept me sane while I was figuring it out.

>>729227157
Would you suck my dick for a hit?

>>729228857
Then your mum is alive dickhead, it's your dad that's dead

>>729241060
Would you suck my hit for a dick.

Think about it.

>>729241128
That's deep bro

>>729227157
What's it like being a quitter?

>>729241287
It feels like fuck you troll.

What's your resume look like? Honestly.

Substance and Frequency: Go.

>>729227157
Man my mom is going through that shit and she keeps buying more on the side. Tough shit bro, nice going so far.

>>729241838
oh shit i thought u meant pills, gl anyway man.

>>729241887
Pills are a whole different monster. Much harder to get off of, but far less dangerous than alcohol to do so.

>>729241838
I'm good right now bro. I'm psychologically cool with it because I know I am being monitored and there are other issues but booze was involved.

Is your mom in detox or just staying out home?

>>729228120
>8-12 tallboys a day
>alcohol withdrawals

Either you're lying about the withdrawals or how much you're drinking. I drank a liter of rum everyday for 2 years straight and had the slight shakes for the day after I quit. You need to drink a shit-ton to have any serious withdrawals. Guy I was in rehab with said he drank 1-2 gallons of vodka daily. Had to be carried around his first couple days because he would fall off of chairs from shaking so badly.

>>729242084
Not true at all, drank a pint of jack for 1 year and had horrible withdrawls sir!

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>>729242070
She's prescribed but theres a vendetta on oxy's atm so her doctor is cutting her off pretty hard, she's just chilling at home, i bring her some weed once in a while to help with the shakes.

Whatever issues just be honest with yourself towards yourself and those around you. I dunno if that sounded retarded but i find that important to point out.

Best of luck.

>>729227157
Godspeed OP!
You keep fighting the good fight bro. It ain't easy, but nothing worth doing ever is.
Keep your mind off of it, stay busy.
Have a good support system.
Eat better, if you can.
You're gunna have to white knuckle it for a while but you'll get past it.
>Life does get better.
I'll be celebrating 5 years dry in October.
Five fucking years. I can't believe it myself. I thought it would be impossible but I have a very supportive family that helped a lot.

>>729242268
Don't bring her weed you fucking idiot.

>>729242048
She's been on a high dose for the past 10 years, so it's kinda fucked up. But at least it's just pills.

>>729227157
Good luck.
I stopped using kratom. But be careful because then I had to WD kratom and it was like 3 days without sleeping, restless legs and arms.
But WD from alcohol would have been worse, I know it.

>>729242341
Well she'll get it herself and i like having a small connection with her, it's the only way i really get to bond with her anymore. Drugs have destroyed her brain.

>>729242366
>muh kratom withdrawals

as a recovering heroin addict i hate you people

>>729227157
Keep it up man. Don't give up. I had a friend who died from withdraws last week. Make sure you are prepared for things like seizures

I just decided to take some time off and quit drinking. I ended up having to go to the doctors to get some benzos to put me out for a week so that the withdrawals don't cause me to have a stroke. Its been about a month since i last drank, and my health has improved a shit ton, but the mental recovery is fucking shitty.

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>>729227157
Good luck op. I'm old (32), and I was a drunk for basically my whole 20s.

I had all the symptoms of dts towards the end of my drunken times.

But it wasn't really hard for me to detox, the hard part was staying sober for multiple days in a row.

I drink hard once a week now, and smoke some weed but I live a pretty lo key life.

>>729231821
Yikes I'm at 750 a day of 50% and hating my life. I want to quit but I hate the visible shakes. I was going to use this long weekend to start slowing down but ive already had a bottle and i just woke up and had a beer already.

>>729242685
What do you mean by the mental recovery?

>>729227940
>put a few drops of rubbing alcohol into some grape juice
you have problems

>>729242685
Oh gee. Thanks.

>>729243057
The whole crashing down to reality bit, where you know longer have this thing around to stimulate feelings. Anxiety, Depression, realizing how you've been fucking up ect.

Was on suboxone for three years, quit last November, almost feel normal finally, hang in there op.

>>729237123
Called off my wedding 1 month before because of my drinking. She married her brothers friend less than a year later, she was cheating on me because I was a useless alcoholic. Still am.

>>729242084
I shake daily

>>729230503
good luck on the detox anon, im 3 month sober now myself, it worth it, i never want another drink, and i know i never can if i want to avoid relapsing. its just how life is now. i have more time and money for other things now.

>>729242688
Thanks, I'm fine.

I'm in the same boat and I'm going to be doing the roughly the same thing.

One thing I will say about this thread despite the trolls and the conflicting opinions is that I never liked to see a guy who was having issues, not have a place to talk it out.

>>729243950
/b/ is the default place to talk about issues, it always has been

Hey OP, hope things work out for you and other struggling Alcoholics in this thread.

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>rubbing alcohol into grape juice

Good luck man

>>729243012
Just let it relax your nerves and start re-planning your strategy, man. There is a whole thread of shit here you can read as a resource.

>>729243150
I was curious, fuck off. And I tossed it.

>>729243398
Don't feel like that b\ro. If you messed up, you messed up. Just don't end up one of those poor fucks in ISIS getting MOAB's dropped on them and go see a doctor and stay healthy.

>>729243732
Ouch. Cheating women and their "He's drunk and jobless." Then as soon as she gets married, you find out that she was cheating and is now sipping wine all day and not working while letting the baby shit himself lol.

Trust me. You're better off without that in your life. A cheating woman is a n-n-n-n-nightmare. I feel worse for dudes addicted to that than to booze. They will embarrass your ass.

>>729243905
Saving the money is a big part. I'm glad you have gwop, your health and closure on that chapter dude.

>>729244273
When I first heard about /b/ I heard it was for hackers, pedo's, cave-dwelling DOTA players, white supremacists and the FBI.