The adults are in charge again....feels good man

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>>729116244
>tfw you vote for Trump because he claims to be an isolationist, then he fires 59 tomahawk misses at Syria, sends warships to the Korean peninsula and then fires a literal fucking moab at Afghanistan.

We basically just voted in George W. Bush 2.0

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>>729116508
You're a fucking moron. He's doing the job that Obama should've done and ISIS wouldn't have happened. He should've kicked their ass, pushed them into the sea, and been done with it.

>>729116508
And? Better than that do-nothing piece of shit we've had the last 8 years.

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>>729116581
>>729116581

You faggots sould like Shillary Clinton
>we should waste hundreds of millions of tax payers dollars on another pointless war
Sure, America has crumbling infrastructure, 40,000 Americans are dying every year because they can't get access to health care, but fuck it, we should attack a small group of sand niggers which we actively sell weapons to and have previously funded.
They have not attacked us yet, we should let European countries take care of ISIS.

Neo-con retards.

>>729116919
> because post-WW2 Europe is totally capable of that without US aid.

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>>729116919

HAHAHAHAHA, you're an idiot too. Healthcare is not a right. It's nice, but that doesn't mean you get it just because you breathe. You want healthcare, then get a fucking job that provides it.

>>729117011
Europe can't kill 80,000 sand niggers with out of date weapons?

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>>729117094
>healthcare is not a right

Yet owning guns is a right.

Life not a right, death a right.

Your brain is mush, asshole.

>>729117144
Not when they refuse to call the one million sand-niggers that they let walk into Europe a problem.

Fucking Euro-trash cucks.

>>729116581
>the job that Obama should've done and ISIS wouldn't have happened
>Bush responsible for ISIS
>Obama funded ISIS thru Saudis
>Trump sucking Saudi dick

>>729117227
Guns are objects, healthcare is a service.
Doctors and nurses aren't slaves.

But then again, you liberal fucks love slaves.

>>729116600
>Better than that do-nothing piece of shit we've had the last 8 years
okay (((anon)))
>pro intervention
>america not first
>spending on imperialism, not infrastructure like trump said

>>729117465
>you liberal fucks love slaves
>Right-wingers wanted slavery to carry on

>>729116600
The do nothing that dropped over 8k bombs on the middle east?

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>>729117094
What about people who cannot get a job, such as the elderly or disabled? Should we just let them die? Your stance is morally abhorrent. I am guessing your just an edgy teen. And, I don't like Obama, he is a neo-liberal (just like Trump). I find it difficult to discern Obama from Trump, other than on Climate Change (and, even on this issue, they do not differ too radically), they believe in practically identical policies.

>>729117465

lol no wonder the us is going to shit when there's people like this.

>>729117552
>implying political parties were the same during slavery

Oh sweet summer child. The democrats were the slavers.

>Trump fires 60 missiles and one big bomb
>done more than Obama in eight years!

Trumpers are fucking blind. How's that wall coming along?

>>729117227
Are guns free now?

I think "owning" healthcare is not restricted to anyone who has the mean to obtain it. I'm not even on any side int his issue this is just a nonsensical argument.

>>729117657
What he said makes perfect sense. Go cry about November 9th and think of hair brained ways that Bernie can still win. Go jack your little dick to fantasies of trumps impeachment

>>729117731
How's that Clinton victory coming along?

>>729117710
>Political beliefs swapped overtime, now republican right wingers prefer slavery
>Da dems r duh slaveries!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>729117804
Kinda sheds light on how stupid your point was in the first place huh?

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Why do liberals all have to be whiny college students with green dyed hair?

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>>729116581
>>729116600
hahaha the cognitive dissonance is incredible with you drumf supporters.

>>729117465
No, they are not slaves and that is why they are paid, even when health care is provided by the government. I see taxes as an investment, when I pay my taxes, I expect a return on my investment. What I don't think people like you understand is that, when I say free health care, I do not actually mean it is free, I mean that I pay for it with my OWN money through taxes. It is objectively better for anyone making less than, let's say, $300,000 a year to have a single payer system in place, as it is substantially cheaper. America is the only developed first world country to not provide its citizens with health care, and as a result, up to 40,000 people die a year.

>>729117839
>makes no sense
>hah! that shows da dum lubrel

>>729117774

Nah. I don't care nearly as much as you give me credit. I don't even live in the US.

But it doesn't matter what i say, you won't budge. If you honestly think guns are more of a right then healthcare, you've already lost.

>>729117918
>all
>all

>>729118158
You know you're losing an argument when you start trying to mock the other person by typing incoherently.

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>throwing a bomb for no effect but amusing mental children like OP to distract from being an incompetent imperialist zionist faggot

Yeah... "grown ups".

>>729118208
>everything has to be an argument

>>729117955
check em.

>>729118185
Uhh, just because you have the right to have guns, doesn't mean the government is handing them out to everyone for free. You better save up your money and buy one. Same thing with healthcare, unless you're a whiny liberal going through a phase in college.

>>729117765
This guy is right
Health-care is important, but this >>729117227 guy is a fucking moron
>>729117465
>what is the hippocratic oath
Also try to see Health-care as an investment, who lives can work another day

I live in southeast Louisiana and if you are a liberal you basically have no friends

>>729118280
>those who support universal healthcare is instantly libruhl bc i have head lodged deep inside anoos

>>729118477
Notice how you have nothing to say about the actual point I made

>>729118280
It is not free. You would PAY for it through taxes, you moron.

>>729118528
>implying i even give a shit about what a dumbass says on /b

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>>729118407
tough talk for an autist trump cuck

bourgeoise left and right, 2 sides of the same coin

>Bernie can still win
>only a matter of days before trump is impeached
>omg my hair isn't dyed green enough
>there aren't enough safe spaces on my college campus
>I only watch CNN
>I cried on November 9th
>I cried on January 20th

Things liberals say

>>729118633
>buut we cannot afford! dumb liberals!

>>729117555
8k? Are you retarded? He dropped 23,000 in 2106 alone. The difference between Trump and Obama though is Trump kills ISIS. Obama killed thousands and thousands of civilians.

>>729117094
>healthcare is not a right
what do you think about police protection, fire fighters, roads, etc?

>>729118235

>Everything stops becoming an argument when you run out

>>729118765
>Trump kills ISIS
>accepted weapons deal for saudi arabia which will go straight to killing yemenis and funding terrorist groups like ISIS as seen in wikileaks emails

>>729118832
>I was arguing in the first place

>>729117465
>doctors and nurses aren't slaves
but police and fire fighters are?

>>729118643
ITT: literally that post.
"Let the flag for hypocrisy fly high from every pole!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8jvEJngh4M

>>729118824
I don't need any of thees services and think that they should be privately funded and sold as a service.

>>729118647
*Things a small minority of liberals say
Not all liberals are fucking morons, although, you think they are, because you have a malleable mind, you take in and believe all of the propaganda you read on the internet.
You are incapable of thinking for yourself, so you look to Rebel Media, InfoWars and Steven Crowder to get your information.

join us here

https://discord.gg/XNwfaEQ

>>729118981
oh, it's retarded

>>729118981
>"i am an autistic, edgy 13 y/o"

>>729117465
>socialized health care=slaves
guess fire fighters and cops are slaves
>>729118528
you don't even have a point. your argument is as stupid as the cat anon. both of you lack any solid foundation
>>729118765
>what is the botched yemen raid that he personally over looked
>dropped a billion dollar bomb that only killed 30ish sand niggers
bravo trump .truly bravo
>>729118981
oh god
he's retarded . this better be b8 or our education system has truly failed us

Oh I like this guy. He's says what we're all thinking.

>>729119046
You're wrong. I'm going off of personal experience with whiny liberal faggots

To even be a part of the group of people spewing this bullshit is a disgrace

>>729119083
>>729119123

No you guys are the dumb ones wasting your money paying for niggers fire fighters and cops that they don't even want. Let them fight for themselves and us good old white folk will pay for our cops and fire fighters with the money we get from our jobs.

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>>729117227

You're right. Owning a gun that I purchase with money that I acquired from the fruits of my own labor, IS a right, as is the right to self-determination, which owning a gun helps secure. That you don't understand this very basic principle just let's everyone know that you're an idiot.

Ha.
Faggot Establishment bitches Lost the argument so just spam with images.

Just like every Trump thread.

The guy posting the eagles must feel really lonely seeing us continue the argument and ignore him

>>729116919
40,000 out of 319 million *insert idubbbz 9gag hey thats pretty good meme here*

>>729119377
FUCK YOU LOOK AT MY EAGLES!

>>729119292
>us good olf white folk
Retarrrr confirrr

>>729119292
trying too hard m8

>>729119377
do you really think that there is a guy sitting at his computer posting thees. Is's a script and he pays for a 4chan pass so he doesn't have to do captcha. he's obviously fucking his 10/10 GF right now laughing at you wasting your time on the internet arguing with people who are trolling you.

stupid muricans :-D

>>729119377
Eagles don't need you to validate them; they're goddamned eagles.

>>729119229
Each side has its degenerates, that doesn't mean we jump ship and hop from one ideology to another. That is fucking stupid. I strongly disagree with SJW's as does EVERY rational liberal. In fact, SJW's are NOT liberal, they oppose free speech; this is NOT a position held by actual liberals. I also disagree with conservatism, so naturally, I am not going to become a conservative or begin to adhere to their morally abhorrent beliefs.

>>729119580
>>729119520
you literally cant refute my statement so you shut down and turn to ad hominems Im loving this :DDDDD

>>729116244
https://discord.gg/ZdjwRzr

>>729116244
What does this have to do with adulthood?

>>729119792
I like hunting. is this bird worth a lot or something? maybe ill take a visit to America

>>729119691

Okay, if you profess to be a rational liberal; why do you think the government has any right to tell me, the free citizen, to do anything or adhere to a liberal ideology? The problem with liberalism is that you're just spreading misery to everyone and you don't have that right.

>>729119693
>ad hominems
>"you are le dumb ones"

>>729119902
K

>>729119895
>you're just spreading misery to everyone and you don't have that right
That's purely your opinion, not fact.

>>729119432
Oh, so that makes it alright then.
Do you know how many people in Canada die as a result of not accessing health care; 0. Do you know how many people in the UK die as a result of not accessing health care; 0. Do you know how many people in Ireland die as a result of not accessing health care; 0. Why is this? It is because these countries have a single payer system in place. I could go on and on, but listing every country would be a waste of time. You are a cuck to insurance companies.

I am so proud of Trump. China and Russia will soon be with us, then North Korean will be gone as well as every Muslim country. America. Fuck yeah.

>>729120008
>doesn't repeal obamacare like he said
>appoints goldman sachs people to government
>doesn't lock hillary up in jail
>wall payed for mostly by the american tax payer
>more intervention
>he fine and stuff bc russian tensions are going up and china is happy with trump rn

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>>729116581
>Thinking us policy isn't to create perpetual conflict.
>thinking
>thinking

>>729116508
The only people who claimed he was an isolationist were CNN, MSNBC and the young Turks. He said America first. Not only America. Also, our national anthem is literally a song about blowing up anyone we feel like because in the end, we will still be standing.

>>729116244
Merica! Fuck Yeah!!

>>729120128

He's still in the first year of his term. Patience, Grasshopper.

>>729120253
>he's only been in there for like weeks'n'shit goiizz come on!!!
>valid point

If you like Trump you are objectively, quantifiably, actually in truth STUPID. I don't know you but I can make an accurate judgement just by that bit of info. Dude is a con man and you are a mark. Don't expect me to respect someone too dumb to even notice the huckster fucking them over.

>>729119166
>a billion dollar bomb
sixteen million, google it

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>>729120371

>>729120128
>doesn't repeal obamacare like he said
Congress dropped that ball, not Trump. He can't sign it if they don't pass it first.

>>729120128
>the wall
surprisingly hasn't secured funds yet. it stillneeds a senate approved budget. which considering how trump handled the ACA I'm not very hopeful
>democrats are a hard no
>The poster boys of the freedom caucus, rand paul and Justin amash, absolutely hate the wall because of the cost .rand more so because his father leans libertarian.
its literally gonna be healthcare reform part 2 unless he actually learns to be charismatic outside rallies

>>729118833

trump spends 300 million trying to bomb four guys in a cave because he wants to use "the biggest bombs"

lmfao trump supporters are dumb fuckers

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>>729120371

You spelled "Hillary" wrong.

>>729120668
Congress didn't make it happen bc the public didn't want them to & despite all their years of talk enough of them still have their brains fixed in reality rather than Trump's 2 HOLE to know they'd catch hell & get voted out if they did.

>>729117227
You're literally retarded. You contradicted yourself and you're too stupid to realize it. Good luck being a faggot.

>>729120785
>democrats are a hard no
yeah, only now bc "rootin tootin pootin!"

>>729120852
lol Trump defenders can't keep Hillary (or Obama) out of their vocabulary. Your dude is in charge now, try to take personal responsibility for you actions like Derp Trump is so good at.

>>729120852
Notice how you didn't address any of the points that anon laid out.

>>729118280
You're the only person speaking sense in this thread.

>>729120668
presidents have passed bills that have had zero chances of passing before. Its called bargaining and being charismatic. Which was the exact opposite what trump did
>got fuckin paul boyscout ryan to create a healthcare bill
>passively aggressively threatened republicans and democrats to get them to vote for it
>sent that aspie bannon to threaten them to vote for it
it was like watching spoiled child throwing a shitfit because mommy and daddy wouldn't give him his toy back

>>729120960
No, Congress didn't make it happen because they're a bunch of bickering children. There were no republicans saying "I'm not repealing Obamacare because I want to get re-elected", they were saying "we failed because we're so used to being an opposition party we've forgotten how to govern"

>>729121555
You're right, they don't know how to govern. Like, at all. Voting to repeal 60 times over 8 yrs when Obama was POTUS was theatrics, then Ryan Bro cobbles together some Ayn Rand shit in a few weeks which was very unpopular and the writing was on the wall for members who still have a brain.

>>729121463
>presidents have passed bills
That's not how that works.
Congress passes a bill and the President vetoes it or signs it. The President cannot pass a bill, Congress has to pass it before the President can sign it.

The fact of the matter is that Trump did not lie and, in fact, actively wanted to sign a bill. Congress failed to pass the bill.

>>729116244
No Trump supporter has ever complemented him by calling him an adult. Troll.

>>729122497
Congratulations on your 7th grade understanding of American government but this is a non-sequitur.

>>729116581
As if the world would be that easy... Do you know how they rose to power? Do you understand that you´re not going to extinct an idea by bombing some people? You only help spreading it (as wide as the bodyparts fly - to give you the stupid joke you would´ve made anyway).

>>729117465
Doctors ought to be millionairs because they save your life? And you only deserve to live if you can pay? This is the new social darwinism we all dreamed about. It has been a nightmare but still a dream. Idiot. If you ever would´ve proper HC you would know what I am talking about but with your still third world HC you´ll never get the difference. But you chose to believe HC is communism.
Know what? Everything what you heard about HC - systems in other countries is a lie so far.

Hillary must be proud of Trump. This is what she wanted. Atta, boy Trump.

>>729116581
OMG Fucking this... The ISIS fighters are now officially shaking in their sandals at the thought of being blown up for their militant Islamic faith by the United States... It's about time...

>>729118643
Fuck off, /leftypol/

>>729117607
Yeah. The old and sick were meant to be taken care of via social security. Too bad democrats fucked that up like they fuck every other welfare/benefits program up.

>>729120003
You mean those waiting lists Canada has where cancer patients couldn't get their treatment and were basically just left to deteriorate? Or a very similar version to Canada's Healthcare service, the VA. You notice a trend with government healthcare systems where they seem to just let people they deem unworthy to die?

>>729119777
Check'd

>>729117227
Nice strawman faggot.
The bill of rights doesn't tell us what we can have - it tells us and specifically the government what it cannot take away from us - it's a bill of governmental limitations.
You can own firearms - if you can afford to buy one. No one gets free guns for being fucking born.
Want healthcare? Get a fucking job and pay for it.

>>729120351
Let's see you become leader of the free world and make all your changes in 4 months.

>>729124233
Don't the routinely use 'blowing up' as an attack?

>>729123239
>cannot refute
>let me insult instead
It is a plain fact that the President cannot pass a bill by himself. He can only sign or veto what Congress passes. Congress failing to agree does not directly translate to Trump lying.
You are twisting reality around your hateboner to get these thoughts to line up in your head. Trump attempted to do what he promised, and Congress fucked it up for him.

>>729124233
Trump has dropped a fraction of the tonnage Obama has. You just don't read the news is all.

>>729117955
Long live trump. I hope you get attacked by middle eastern terror so you can finally see with your own eyes. They are not your friends.

>>729123239
But that's exactly how it works, you fucking mong.

>>729124955
Do you know what a non-sequitur is? It means I don't have to address the point you made because it's an irrelevant to the point being made. The point the other guy was making was that Trump has terrible negotiating skills when it comes to politics, not that the President rules by decree. Try reading it again and you'll see what I'm talking about.

>>729125033
Duh. That's not the point. I'm sorry the public school system failed you. Are you from Alabama?

>>729125237
>I don't have to address your point because I can't refute it
>excuse me while I shit myself from being so retarded

>>729119691
So you don't believe in fiscal conservatism that would allow only prudent and needed spending on vitally important tasks such as infrastructure repairs and improvement but instead support frivolity in taxpayer money spending at the expense of state and nationwide needed services?
That's rather stupid of you if that is the case - if it's not then congrats, you are a fiscal conservative.

>>729119851
$50k fine and 5 years in jail for shooting one.
Enjoy your visit here to our prison system.

americas are dumb

>>729125308
>durr you must be southern hick because you know how the checks and balances system works
Now, to actually address your point, by your logic, Obama as well was a shit negotiator. It took him YEARS to pass the shit ACA bill with not only a Democrat majority, but the damn thing hardly passed through congress.
Try again.

>>729118211
you mean the thing that killed 36 ISIS members and count them zero civilians was somehow a bad idea? he's already killed more ISIS members then Obama did in 8 years.

>>729125361
No one is trying to refute the basic rules of how a bill becomes a law. What are you getting out of this? I'm enjoying this because I can demonstrate how I'm smarter than you by explaining the rules of rhetoric to someone who clearly didn't get a lot of education in life. How is this fun for you?

>>729125520
Do you realize how long it takes to pass even bullshit regulations like how much yard waste is allowed into landfills? Regardless, Obama succeeded and Trump failed. I'm glad we could come to an agreement.

>>729116581
Obama tried, Congress said no. Trump exceeded his constitutional authority in attacking Syria without talking to Congress first. Exceeding presidential authority by going around congress was one of the right's biggest triggers about Obama. Fucking hypocrites...

>>729125520

Obama was inaugurated January 20, 2009. The ACA was passed March 23, 2010. That's a little bit over one year. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>729120003
That is a lie - while they may have healthcare, lack of timely healthcare (aka none due to bureaucratic wait times) kills many just like those who have no healthcare.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/bacchus-barua-/wait-times-canada_b_5505110.html?m=false

>>729125642
>It takes really long for a law to be passed
>Trump didn't do what he said he'd do in 4 months? LOL FAIIIIL
You're fucking retarded if you can't see the glaring contradictions in your argument.

>>729125667
You realize Obama bombed Syria as well right?

>>729125764
He also gave up. Remember this conversation in the future when Obamacare is still the law of the land.

>>729117094
>healthcare is not a right
ausfag here, top kek. fucking hilarious that there are humans on this planet that actually think this way. enjoy getting a cough and dying because you couldn't afford to see a doctor. I'll just go back to paying nothing to see the doctor because I feel like it.

>>729124989
What and trust the corrupt liberal media? ;)
Besides, I thought we were talking about Presidents not private citizens...

>>729125667
Uh no - he can order strikes and even up to 90 days of military action without Congressional approval - he needs congress if he wants to declare war.
Learn how shit works.

>>729117227
>healthcare = life
>guns = death

You do realize, anon, that more people are killed every year in the US by medical malpractice than are killed by people wielding a gun, right?

>>729125915
I looked up your "He gave up" statement and the only things I found were a Buzzfeed article and a N.Y Times article. Both have been bashing Trump since the beginning and gave Killary a 90% chance of winning the election. Is this where you get your news? Looks like "The education system failed you" argument seems to be unintentional projection.

>>729125923
Free healthcare isn't a right, so you got the fag part correct in ausfag.
However doctors here have the Hippocratic oath - if you go to the hospital in need of lifesaving services, they will provide regardless of your ability to pay.
Also, if you have a job, your taxes pay for your "free" healthcare. Even if you don't, taxpayer money does - it's not free, you're just a dumbass.

>>729126069
yeah, lets ban hospitals to safe all the people from getting killed. fucking retard

>>729125764
>>It takes really long for a law to be passed
>>Trump didn't do what he said he'd do in 4 months? LOL FAIIIIL
Not him, but...
Trump kept promising swift action on things he couldn't deliver, mostly because they were just plain impossible.
For instance, the Republicans have had a published "repeal and replace Obamacase" plan for years.
Trump didn't endorse it, claiming instead that he had a wonderful, magical plan that everybody would love, but he couldn't tell anyone any details about it. Big secret.
Turns out he never had a plan, and the Republicans didn't really want to pass their own plan.

Trump made all kind of vague, hand-wavy promises he never intended to deliver on.

>>729126205
>Free healthcare isn't a right
Neither was free speech until people decided society was better off making it a right.

>>729126156
#1 If this is the amount of time it takes you to research a topic you're proving my point about your education.

#2 Where did you get this idea that he's going to try again?

>>729126239
MODS MODS we need an underage b& here...

This kid can't possibly be older than 16 with how he writes and comprehends....

MODS MODS

>>729126311
>Neither was free speech until people decided society was better off making it a right.
It's still not a right - it's only something the government cannot take away but can put "reasonable" limits on - which is how the bill of rights work.
It limits what the government may do or take from its citizenry, it doesn't grant anything.

>>729126584
Do you think that Natural Rights come from God not government?

>>729126358
I don't need to read the article, it's Buzzfeed. The closest thing I could find to even remotely backing your argument was an article saying "He's offering fixes while the G.O.P comes up with a plan. They never gave up in the first place. Keep reading Buzzfeed, though. I'm sure that'll help you along the way in your search for intelligence.

>>729126239
Nice strawman dumbass.
Medical malpractice occurs in more than just hospitals - pharmacies are a large culprit too, as well as cosmetic/plastic surgery clinics.

>>729126311
hey, dumbass anon, it dosen't cost money to talk, it costs money for medical supplies, food, water and anything else the hospital provides.

you seem to have fallen for the shill trap so i'm suspicous of who is actually behind this post.

>>729126651
They come from the fact you were born a citizen in the United States. They are things the government cannot take from you, only place reasonable limitation as defined by the various court systems in this country.
God is never mentioned in the Constitution or Bill of Rights section.

>>729116244
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fucking eagleposters

>>729124649
Not a fan of both parties but republicans haven't done that much to fix ss. The social security issue would be fixed if we lifted the cap on SS that let's someone with a 7 figure salary pay the same rate into social security as the man who's salary is 100k.
My memory of the 90s are hazy. But I remember someone purposing this to the republicans owned government at the time. Which was met with a resounding reeeee and dirty commie insults

>>729117094
Can't believe his garbage supporters agree with mr orange cuck on this.

>>729127256
You mean the earnings limit. Everyone pays in the same 6.2% (12.4% for self employed), those this year in increases to 7.3%.
People above $127,200 do not pay in because they are not entitled to draw SS when they retire. If you have millionaires paying into it, they would be entitled to hundreds of thousands out of it a month upon retirement while still having millions in reserve.
It would break the system even faster.

>>729116919
>we should let European countries take care of ISIS.

Fuck off, your government chose to remove Saddam which allowed them to rise up in the first place so your government can fucking fix it.

>>729128406
>not knowing Tony Blair murder Saddam personally
Top kek m8

ITT: trolls pretending to be Trump supporters trolling trolls pretending to be Trump supporters

>>729128602
>implying Tony Blair made any decision without asking Georgie boys permission.

Pip Pip my good man