what do you think of this picture ?

>>728777908

I'd hit both.

>>728777908
People can do what they want. Who the fuck cares.

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Let's begin with 6,000 volts shall we?

>>728777989
mods

>>728777908
AGE: 30
>regret.jpg

AGE: 40
>suicidetombstone.jpg

>>728778000
I know, i'm not transphobe.

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>>728777989

>>728777989
With the flat hand or with the full fist?

>>728778084
transphobic*

>>728778084
>what is a noun

>>728778084
I just don't want to have anything to do with them

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>>728777989

>>728778212
that is what trans phobia means though.

They are the same person

>>728778304
Wrong.

I've seen a tranny in real life. He was an ugly fucking monster.

>>728778374
yeah you're an asshole, embrace it or stop being it

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>>728778539
If your goal is to force everyone against you, you're doing just fine.

>>728778304
>phobia means wanting to be left alone
this is why lefties are retarded. It means to have a fear of _____, nobody is fucking afraid of trannies, quite the opposite they are damaged and weak in mind, spirit, and often body as well. (Due the the numerous unnatural hormone injections)

The fact that so many people can't see these obvious truths is astonishing to me. Why are people incapable of thinking for themselves, forming opinions based off what large numbers of other people believe?

>>728778778
Fucking this my man.

>>728778616
>>728778374
>I want nothing to do with these people who have done nothing against me, but I'm not a juvenile asshole who needs to grow up
Honestly, what the fuck are you going to do if one of your co workers is transgender and you have to work with them? Just freak out? Quit the job? Or sort out your shit and grow up, be an adult and just be cool with people?

>>728778778
Did you never go to highschool?

>>728778778
>>728778869
See >>728778919

Also, "Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality" if you hold those then you are transphobic. Yes, the word is DERIVED from the greek for fear or someting, but that doesn't mean that it always holds that exact meaning

>>728777908
>sad that nobody helps the boy

>>728778919
>they did nothing against me personally therefore they are no threat to society
Why do lefties lack any kind of critical thinking?

>>728777908
is this and odds and evens?

>>728779060
>Transgender people are a threat to society
now you went full retard

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>this thread

>>728777908
the joke is that both are girls. the 10 yold is just tomboy.

>>728777908
I like it

>>728779129
yeah I don't see a strong transsexual connotation

>>728778000
Trips of truth

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>>728778919
>I want nothing to do with these people what have to get laws passed by some agenda so that people don't bully them because they are such a crime against nature and so incapable of taking care of themselves, or handling any type of disappointment/adversity.

>just be cool with people
You can tell how amazingly intelligent and what foresight they have too....not.

>>728779054
help? what do you mean?

>>728779117
The acceptance of this kind of thing spreads immorality and is responsible for many first world problems.

>>728778000

this


Who the fuck cares what people do.

I dont give a fuck if the person wants to dress up like a banana and declare themselves the banana queen.

>>728778934
>>728779027

noun
1.
a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.

Honestly it's not that fucking hard of a concept to grasp. Do you think it's more likely that people are cowering in the corner that the delusional trannies are going to eat their children? Or are they just sick of seeing freaks in their daily media and just want them to fuck off?

It has nothing to do with fear and therefore by definition it is not a phobia. Nobody is "afraid" of trans people they are just a cancer that infects everything and has to turn everything you enjoy into some Tumblr shitshow with 73+ genders. So you can project about m-muh lesbian poetry degree and >le stupid drumpfters hate evrytin det dunt understand!!!!!!! xd, but the facts remain.

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>>728777989

>>728779185
This one gets it.

>>728779151
why ?

>>728779185
yeah lol

>>728778778
>nobody is afraid of trannies
Lol are you stupid? Why do you think ppl hate them?
It's not because they are ugly you retard it's because ppl fear their influence on culture, language and even their own identity cause these faggots cant stop making up new genders.

>>728778919
Ignore them you fucking retard, you don't need to be friends with them or discuss anything outside of work related matters

>>728777908
I think it's a picture.
Looks to have some child and some happy ass girl in it, there's not much info there TBH.

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>>728779129
the joke is they're both 10 year old boys the 1 on the right is a toy boy

>>728777908
the collapse of Western civilization.

>>728779281
I do. I have to live in this world and maybe want to raise a more intelligent generation. Not stay inside and play videogames.

Oh. and you can decide to remove a banana costume shill.

>>728779233
bait

>>728779205
How can you actually think like that? They're perfectly able to take care of themselves. There is increased violence against them because of retards like you

Even if what you said was true, how does it undermine my point in any way? You can still hang out with them and be cool with them, not be a massive sperg. What would you do if you had to work with one of them. Tell me. What if they're the nicest person you've ever met

>>728779308
That's the meaning of Phobic, as transliterated from greek, like I said. Transphobic has a particular meaning which I also described.

>>728778111
Check'd

With a sock full of butter

>trannys are monstrosities
>okay we will argue the definition of phobia instead

are you serious

>>728779442

That's cute, you still think anything you do matters

>>728779218
>boy have hard childhood
>is considered faggot and loser by everyone
>no girl likes him
>he doesnt know better than to get used by old hairy guys as cumdumpster
>gets humiliated so many times he leaves reality and thinks he is a girl and the dirty things these old man do are natural or sexy
Fuck his life. He needs a father and some love, not a new gender identity.

>>728778304
No its not
I'm not afraid of them
I don't tread them bad or anything
I just don't want to have anything to do with them
In the best possible case they act like girls, but without being girls
In the normal case they act like retards while being retards
Plus their aesthetics disgust me the same way fat people do

>>728779609
Yeah, idiots like you totally have the moral highground here, because you're protecting the poor freaks of nature from the liberal agenda to change their gender

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>>728779476
but what if I had a gay friend and I hang out with him at the bar and get really drunk what if he comes on to me?

>>728779664
"Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality"
You're still transphobic and need to grow up. It doesn't literally carry across the meaning of fear from the greek, like I said like four times now

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>>728777908
If you paid $40 for it, YOU were clearly ripped off

>>728779724
Then he is no friend

>>728779476
>how can you think like that
because it's true
>even if it's true, can't you just be cool with it?
What amazingly greedy, self serving, useless and circular logic you and every other body multilating cuck has

>>728778000
Why wouldn't you care? They lie to themselves, they lie to you. On top of that they want/expect you to play along their twisted make-belive.

>>728779779
No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't change the meaning of a word.

>>728779810
does it mean were lovers tho?

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>>728779368
Some people do, most people don't give a shit. It's really that simple. That was that anon's entire point is that he does not care what other people do, just leave him alone.

And realistically, who are you or anybody else to interfere with somebody's personal life as long as it does not harm somebody else? It goes both ways

>>728779476
>Transphobic has a particular meaning which I also described.
No actually it doesn't. You don't get to just modify a well known abstraction because it fits your narrative.

I know you got that definition from wikipedia by the way. And I hope you don't take wikipedia seriously, especially since not only does that definition have no source, but the page itself has been acknowledged by Wiki to "not represent a worldwide view of the subject"

And to add an extra bitch slap onto this, if transphobia is "having negative feelings towards ______". Well count in the entire fucking population because everybody gets "negative feelings" about anything to an extent.

Welcome to the current year, where long held definitions of words don't matter, you can just make anything mean whatever you want apparently.

>>728779543
Man I am so pissed that you said that.

>>728779724
If you weren't inviting it, or more importantly he knew you're not gay, then he's a dick

>>728778000
True

That's why I can call them a mentally ill fag if they chose to be one

>decent arguments
>better start spamming bullshit

>>728779896
Fucking google "transphobic meaning" then you retard

>>728779823
>What amazingly greedy, self serving, useless and circular logic you and EVERY other body multilating cuck has
>I'm not being intolerant or an asshole, leave me alone

Also that still doesn't undermine my point. And you still haven't said what you'd do if you had to work with a transgender person irl. Because you don't know.

>>728779860
I wonder if you're familiar with the term "butthurt." I only mention it as it seems to be relevant.

>>728779476
What I don't get is why are people trying to diagnose people with medical disorders when they don't know jack shit about it in the first place.

>>728779609
you think that most of trans become trans this way ?

>>728779951
but what if I secretly liked it?

>>728779990
This is the main difference between what the left has become today and basically everyone else.

They are actually trying to ban language they don't like and get people fired for opinions. It's a shitshow honestly and I legitimately can't comprehend how stupid most people are for not seeing through this bullshit.

>>728779913
>everybody gets "negative feelings" about anything to an extent.
Now you're just grasping at fucking straws. Many people specifically don't like transexuals

Also, fucking google it
Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality

>>728779860
Well you are pretty stupid
>Implying trans people try to interact with you specifically

>>728779990
Yep. You sure can. It will likely be your greatest triumph.

>>728780050
He would start making noises, throw crayons around and drool all over himself while rolling on the floor and screaming "CUCK CUCK CUCK". Pretty much like he does here.
Wait, he'd have to leave his basement first and find some work. Don't blame him that he is unable to imagine such scenario.

>>728780091
come on m8, rly? if ya like it, it don't matter ya idiot

>>728780262
This is what you think, and I think that's where our problem is
I know one transgender person, and they're actually really uptogether and intelligent
Meanwhile here you are on /b/, ranting about those damn transsexuals that are ruining society for you

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post more tasty girldick u faggots

>>728780050
>forces everyone to accept them
>wants to be left alone
>point not undermined

>but we aren't forcing anyth...
then why can't people disagree? Why can't you respect boundaries and limits?

Because you don't respect the people you are asking to respect you

/jew junk jugglers

>>728780060
I know little about how it's treated, and there surely could be improvements. What also needs improvent is many peoples attitudes towards transgender people

>>728777908

I think it needs a background soe something. It's kind of boring. Also the age 20 needs some big tits.

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>>728777989
this post is straight outta 2007.

i can appreciate that.

>>728780159
So your argument is that because you're not interacting with them right now, they are not a problem?
Great disposition, I'm sure you'll have a bright future.

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I can shower with I friend at a swimming pool and be fine with it but what If I shower with a gay friend at a swimming pool? is it gay /b/?

>>728780050
I would work with them and ignore the transexuallityshit as good as possible
What do you think goddammit
That I go full REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?
I don't want to have anything to do with them but what should I do?
They have the same right to do what they want as I
>I wouldn't hire one tho

>>728779331
Because the person on the right is happy now, also am a trans person myself so I can relate, I didn't dislike girls at 10 but I certainly was not ok with what I was feeling (which is that of gender dysphoria) and was not able to accept who I really was due to the stigma of being trans or even the thought of being lumped in with those "fags" and now that I have started my transition I have become a lot happier and my quality of life has increased as well as the likelihood that I would do something dumb and/or dangerous has majorly decreased, I mean there's always thoughts of suicide but I'm now getting proper treatment and am able to work through my feelings rather then suppressing them as best as possible and being a hateful and generally shitty person because of it

>>728777908
I think they could do art for webcomics

>>728779801
i didn't pay, just found it on Internet

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>>728780050
Not that anon but just out of curiosity I googled "transphobic meaning"

Turns out there ISN'T a solid definition. All you have are laughable sources to Wikipedia pages likely created by some blue haired dyke at once of the numerous "feminist wikipedia correct-a-thons" or whatever they're called. (Yes it's a real thing that actually happens, hundreds of feminists get together to edit wikipedia at once to fit their narrative.) As it would turn out transphobia seems to be a fabricated word meant to shoot people's arguments down without actually discussing the ideas.

You see everybody, this anon is not interested in actually talking rationally about legitimate issues surrounding trans people. It's trying to get you to focus on the definition of some word that doesn't by any measurable metric hold a solid definition. Or at the very least is fabricated to give you a false notion about the accused, which is why (phobia) has to have a "special meaning" with trans people.

It's a fucking joke to portray anybody they don't like as fear mongering when in fact they are being disingenuous cunts who have their heads up their ass. Or worse are useful idiots for people like Brianna Wu who are only interested in fame/money

>>728779860
You lie to yourself too. Just about different things. maybe the same thing. maybe you're lying to yourself now that you're even a man at all. Maybe you're just a jealous little cunt that wishes he could become a bitch.

It's like people who hate their fathers and become their fathers

>>728780379
>could it be...one of you is intelligent?

Waiting for the flood of self hating trans to disagree with you

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>>728779442
>I'm going to raise my kids different than everyone else.
>Too dumb to realize this not only sends your children directly to the wasteland of alienation, but also ensures their status as special snowflakes.

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>>728777908
>cartoon depiction of trans person

Literally every trap looks like a greasy man. Note that when they post their pics here it's only neck down and when face is shown its heavily made up with good lighting. If you saw one in person you'd throw up immediately.

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would u take girl boner and be straight or guy boner and be gay?

>>728777908
Art's kinda cute.

>>728780114

Freedom of speak doesn't mean protection from the repercussions of what you say.

You should be allowed to say, all trannies are mentally ill faggots.

You can't force your employer to continue to employ you afterwards. It's their right to fire you.

>>728780615
Got any more baseless projecting, since you're at it?

>>728780736
Fuck off kike

>>728780145
>Many people specifically don't like transexuals
I would like to see your source for any of these claims because you're talking out of your ass. I just used your own fucking definition to debunk your own argument.

You contradict yourself and are too stupid to even realize it.

It me. But pinker.

>>728780690
>wild generalization and a thread that has to move fast as fuck just to maintain this retarded level.
>too special to notice this is and has been the goal of every parent

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>>728780742
I tuse grill

>>728777989
This.

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>>728777989
fpbp

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>>728777908
Mental illness spurred on by leftist propaganda plastered all over tv, movies, social media, etc.

This fad is going to ruin more lives in the next few years than heroin.

>>728780825
Show me a picture of a decently looking trap in a photo that isn't trying hard then

>>728780464
>forces everyone to accept them
what are you talking about

i don't think a group should need to specifically gain acceptance if they're not doing anything wrong or hurting anyone

>then why can't people disagree? Why can't you respect boundaries and limits?
Why are the boundaries there? Is there a reason? You have the right to be an asshole, but I'm calling you out. Can you deal with that?

>>728780592
For me It literally came up as "Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality"
Listen, to anyone still going on about the definition of transphobic, whether your particular kind of being an asshole is classified as transphobia or not is not really my main path of argument. You can be grow up and be cool with people

>>728780638
Not sure what you're saying

>>728780828
My source?
>this thread
Also the amount of violence and the amount of suicide among transexuals
>But surely more acceptance in society and less sperging wouldn't help, I have no responsibility
Yes, it would help, no you don't have responsibility, but I'm asking you to take it and not specifically be an asshole to transexuals irl and online

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what if my best friend was gay but he spontaneously passed out and had to give him mouth to mouth. would it be gay?

>>728780915

Among transgender groups we always have the one conservative and the one libertarian. We have more moderates than the LGB.

>>728781022
Only if the balls touch

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>>728780845
same fam
nice big ol girlcock in ur butt for top pleasure

>>728781022
It's only gay if you don't say no homo before

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>>728780736
>every trap looks like a greasy man
O rly?

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>>728780952
This is me actually trying to look like a guy.

>>728777908
hot

>>728780915
I think the media plays up how popular it is. That many people can't suddenly be that stupid.

>>728780484
What do you mean "attitudes towards transgensered people"?
If a doctor isn't the determining factor as to whether or not someone has a *phobia then there's a good chance the persons just an ignorant ass.
Personally transgendered people concern me but I hold no ill will towards them and I'll continue waiting on the science as to tell me WTF is up with these people.
I think there's something wrong with their brains and it's probably a mental illness but we don't know yet. Till then, I'll treat them like normal people and address them by their biological gender. Well, at least until science says otherwise their claims have merit.

>>728780756
Yes but the attempt by other people to actively pursue these repercussions VIA organized mass social media outrage and e-mailing their employers is what I'm talking about.

I never said they shouldn't be allowed to do that, but they are obviously scumbags because of it, and it's the main difference today. The points you made were obvious and I assumed everybody already knew that, I am referring to them trying to actively ban specific words and make laws that say you cannot criticize a trans person. Canada and Sweden already have these laws in place and people are being arrested. It isn't some paranoia it's already been happening, and nobody except a small group of people seem to give a fuck.

>>728781136
>Hard Photoshoped photo taken from ideal position
Did you wanted to make a point?

>>728781136
>picrelated
That's not a trap.

>>728778076
this

>>728780513
In case you're wondering, your tenuous grasp of the language in no way diminishes the persuasiveness of your argument.

>>728781136
>face is in good lighting, lots of makeup and angled

If you're not going to post a real candid pic, don't post one at all

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>>728780952
I want to imagine her sweaty in the sun

>>728781261

Pence definitely sucks cock.

>>728780836
>I'm going to raise my kids different so they're not special snowflakes.
>Breaking away from traditional parenting models are the reason that kids are special snowflakes.
okay fam

>>728777908
I think this shouldn't be a thread

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>>728777908

>>728781370

Like seriously, this man is not fooling anyone.

>>728781143
You look like a guy because you ARE a guy.

>>728781136
Read the whole post you retard. Even then Somik-chan is an actual girl who tried to gain popularity on russian image boards by pretending to be a trap by shooping her boyfriend's dick on photos of herself. Lurk more.

>>728780982
>doesn't acknowledge anyone else's concerns
>you need to prove everything, because I'm not explicity forbid from doing it. So I must be right.

And they think laws will fix this kek

>>728781196
>If a doctor isn't the determining factor as to whether or not someone has a *phobia then there's a good chance the persons just an ignorant ass.
>Personally transgendered people concern me but I hold no ill will towards them and I'll continue waiting on the science as to tell me WTF is up with these people.
>I think there's something wrong with their brains and it's probably a mental illness but we don't know yet. Till then, I'll treat them like normal people and address them by their biological gender. Well, at least until science says otherwise their claims have merit.
I respect all of that pretty much

>What do you mean "attitudes towards transgensered people"?
Many people specificaly dislike transgendered people because they are uncomfortable with the concept. As a result there is a lot of hostility online and in the real world. Just look at this thread. It's not such a massive deal, I think most people are fine with it now

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the question is

would u wife a girl with a nice penis?

>>728781453
Not sure what you're saying. Forbid from what? What part were you responding to?

>>728778000
EXACTLY, people will do anything for a sense of security and belonging, and someone took that from them just like the guy above this post who would fuck a 10 year old boy. The trips of truth

>>728780982
>in this acceptance forcing hijacked thread
>as long as I don't admit it it isn't happening lalala

How they actually think

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>>728781438
Literally everyone called me ma'am that day lol.

>>728777908
>Gender confusion is great! Look how happy.
>For some strange reason the subject is White...
>Thanks Mr. Goldstien!

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>>728780952

>>728777908
For me its just weird, like did anyone actually hate girls when they were like 10? Like when I was 10 nobody really cared

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what if I was with a group of friends and they all wanted to go skinny dipping but 1 of my friends was gay. would it still be gay to go skinny dipping?

>>728781628

This is 4chan where they go out of their way to be mean; ignore the other anon!

>>728781628
If that's what you want 4chan to believe go ahead

>>728781222

>It isn't some paranoia
>isn't some paranoia
>some paranoia
>paranoia

>>728781455
Most people act like they are fine with it but actually are fucking uncomfortable around transgenders
It's a pain for everyone, just like old people that smell like shit

>>728780982
>only my opinion is right
>why can't you all be cool with that

Because validating a mental delusion is the surest way to hurt the sufferer and everyone around them. not like you care

>>728781282
Sure you can nitpick about my knowlege of language if you can't argue no more.

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>>728781249
>hurr durr photoshop
>>728781284
>boo hoo
>>728781257
>>728781447
>maximum newfaggotry

>>728781628
Post your tits faggot

Then your dick

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>>728781713

>>728781818

Thanks for the rare pepe anon.

>>728781347
>gonna go off on a raising kids debate because our genderbender argument is so damn weak

Gotcha famalamadingdongshamlan

>>728781775
calling someone a newfag won't make you right
lurk moar

>>728781755
>Because validating a mental delusion is the surest way to hurt the sufferer and everyone around them. not like you care
See >>728779702
There is disproportionate violence and hostility towards transgendered people, and it's not their own fault. Again I'm not saying you have responsibility for this, but I'm asking you to take it and be nice towards transgendered people irl and online

>>728781628
how does that mouth look while sucking something?

>>728781572
>what are you saying
>I don't understand
>explain everything to me

typical jew dance

>>728780982
>For me It literally came up as "Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality"
I KNOW that's the fucking point, you googled "transphobia definition" and the definition you received is an un-sourced fabricated definition on wikipedia.

The concept of transphobia as you're defining it does not exist. You are calling people transphobic based on a definition that was created for the express purpose of shutting people down without actually talking to them, which is why you have to have a ---->>> "different meaning" <<<------- for the word. I had to emphasize that point because it seems you're missing that. There is no different special meaning for phobia when applied to trans people.

>whether your particular kind of being an asshole is classified as transphobia or not is not really my main path of argument.
That's the entire point, you're implying by calling something a phobia when it is not by definition a fear to create an image of somebody that is incorrect, that's why the definitions of the words matter.

>My source?
>this thread
So let me get this straight, your source for the idea that society hates trans people is a thread on /b/?

>Also the amount of violence and the amount of suicide among transexuals. The tranny suicide rate is not due to negative comments online, either give me a legitimate source for your claims or piss off. Even if you're right maybe they deserve to kill themselves because some anon called them a faggot

Honestly I don't know why I took you seriously. You have a legitimate mental illness, I am not saying this ironically or to be an asshole but you are legitimately stupid. It isn't a "lol u retard" shitfling but I legitimately believe that you are completely retarded to the point where it could be in fact classified as a mental illness. Of course I am not practicing psychologist yet, but if I were you I would certainly be seen by one.

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>>728781713
I know lol. I'm literally not going to get upset on the Internet when I know how people perceive me in real life. >>728781726

>>728781894
>b-b-but muh strawman!

>>728781726
Was there a point to this, or?

>>728782019
Misclick at the end

>>728780514
> this pic
> 1.5mb

the fuck anon.

>>728781942
>be nice to us because you aren't allowed to be mean

I'd hate to never be able to go out alone at night

>>728779860
So let me guess god told you to feel this way.

>>728782019

You make one ugly chick, you make one ugly dude too, so it's cool.

Moral of the story, lose some weight fatty. The world has enough frumpy fat white chicks, it doesn't need another one.

>>728782019
Show us your dick

>>728782003
Idk man, the range of emotions goes from fear to fear. He might be right.

In a society that does not provide reasonable guidelines for developing a personal identity, this is absolutely bound to happen. Our standards for both masculinity and femininity are frankly speaking, fucking retarded, make no goddamn sense socially -or- biologically,.
It should come as even less surprise that these models are so woefully inadequate, that those who are supposed to be at the top of the shit heap - White, middle aged Christian men, have a rapidly growing suicide and drug abuse rate.

Since we're funneled to emulate models of identity that naturally cause people to loathe themselves, it's no wonder why they would seek the most obvious "other" model in the mistaken belief that it will bring them happiness. Transfolk are rarely happy people, and sure this is at least partially due to the fact that that people would rather see them dead than see them at all - but more so due to the fact that the models of identity we offer suck big floppy donkey cocknballs and the identity they're excaping to is fucking miserable as well.

The Academic Liberal reaction to this is to obliterate all gender identity, but this is equally fucking retarded. Leading people to believe that they are fully in control of their beliefs and self-perceptions is misguided at best, but it does not provide adults (let alone children) the tools necessary to adapt to their situations both environmental and biological.

>>728782076
time to start naming fallacies, you fucks degrade fast

>>728781455
I would assume that most in this thread, those who wish violence or harm upon them, fall into the ignorant ass category. I get that they don't like transgendered people but I'd also assume that most aren't very good at articulating their position in a definitive manner. Most will probably simply say "I don't like them" and be done with it because it conveys the general point while ignoring the fact that others will extrapolate out other meanings from it. However I can see that some are taking this "I don't like X" and feeding their own immature ignorant ass then lashing out at a group of people who we don't really understand. It's not conducive but you'd have to figure out how to talk to these people to make any net positive meaningful impact.

>>728782267

Oh my god, I typed "Excape" Please fucking kill me.

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>>728781713
i know right fellow a-non!~~~~~~~

everybody is so mean here xD we should all just get along and watch cats and hack evil rich people fellow anonymous x3

>>728782267
>in a society that doesn't tell you how to live...idiots are bound to collect and be taken advantage of

No crap. We are all aware of the situation. Now fight like everyone else

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>>728777989

>>728782422

I'm a lover, not a fighter.

>>728782248
>>728781977
>>728781815
Not trying to attention whore QUITE that hard in a discussion thread. Dude just said there were no trains girls that look decent without makeup, I disagree and think I work as evidence..

>>728782401

I have thick skin smiley face anon.

>>728782003
>I KNOW that's the fucking point, you googled "transphobia definition" and the definition you received is an un-sourced fabricated definition on wikipedia.
I misread
idk, the true definition of a word is how we use it, and here we are. Also, like I said before, it's not central to my argument whether dislike towards transexuals and transgendered people fits the definition of transphobia. It still sucks that it's there, irregardless of the nomenclature

>So let me get this straight, your source for the idea that society hates trans people is a thread on /b/?
Are you saying there ISN'T dislike towards transgendered people in this thread? It's a reflection of SOMETHING that's for sure, maybe not a crystal clear one to one reflectin of society

>Honestly I don't know why I took you seriously. You have a legitimate mental illness, I am not saying this ironically or to be an asshole but you are legitimately stupid. It isn't a "lol u retard" shitfling but I legitimately believe that you are completely retarded to the point where it could be in fact classified as a mental illness. Of course I am not practicing psychologist yet, but if I were you I would certainly be seen by one.
I'm not actually transexual, so there's no confusion

>>728782172
>be nice to us because you aren't allowed to be mean
I didn't say this, I specifically said you have the right to be an asshole, but I have the right to call you out

>>728782309
Many people hold views that can't be substantiated entirely. Like why is consensual cannibalism bad? Or consensual necrophilia? I agree they are bad, but theres no good reason. In this case, there is no good reason for the dislike towards transexuals, it just makes people uncomfortable, but it hurts transexuals, who can't help the way there are (I BELIEVE current science agrees with this)

>>728782525
you can't acknowledge a person as being even a bit right unless they are completely right. Otherwise they get a big head and don't listen to anyone.

Source: trannies

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if I was Frodo but samwise was gay would it make it gay to travel to mordor to destroy the ring?

>>728782309
Forgot to add that some people just don't care enough to property convey themselves.

>>728782255
I think trans people are normiephobic as evidenced by this thread

clearly they fear people saying mean things about them on the internet and would even kill themselves because of it. It's amazing they still decide to come here despite the massive fear and hostility towards the lgbtlmop community we have here

>>728782267
Our standards for both masculinity and femininity are frankly speaking, fucking retarded, make no goddamn sense socially -or- biologically
>make no goddamn sense socially -or- biologically
>biologically
>no sense

My mind is about to fucking explode over here at how stupid you people are. I know you're just one person but the fact that a handful of people would agree with what you say without actually thinking about it is what gets met.

Do you legitimately believe there are no biological implications of sex? Because that's what you just said. You do realize that men biologically are stronger than women, right? I know this is the part where you enter in a personal lived experience as some sort of half baked "gotcha!" when in fact that would be retarded anecdotal evidence, but men and women do in fact have biological differences. These basic concepts lead to people seeing men as stronger than women. Because we are.

Men are physically stronger than women, this is a proven scientifically researched fact. I do not know the psychology but it's obvious that we're different in that regard as well, if there were no biological differences or psychological why would a trans person exist? Why would we even have male/female?

>>728782690
>call you out
>whine that you can't just be cool with us

except you never call out anything. our thinking isn't backwards because it's based on the current successful way we already live /without/ your diseased ideas

>>728782774

lol nothing you're saying has anything to do with what I said.

>>728782986
watch it take ten minutes for you to come up with some way to twist this statement and not answer it

>>728782802
Frodo is the gay one
Sam has rosie

I think that I can get trips on it.

>>728783044
you're in a trans thread

>>728782986
>call you out
>whine that you can't just be cool with us
No, I'm not transexual, I'm just wondering why people can't just grow up and be cool with transgender people, they're not hurting anyone by being transgender, they don't have a choice in feeling that way, and you're being an asshole. You misunderstand. Consider yourself called out.

>>728782255
Thanks

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If I came across everything I ever wanted in my gay friend would it be gay to still hang around him?

>>728782690
>Are you saying there ISN'T dislike towards transgendered people in this thread? It's a reflection of SOMETHING that's for sure, maybe not a crystal clear one to one reflectin of society
Well I'm not the one who cited this source as a reasonable perspective into my claims. And even at that this thread would not be able to realistically represent the whole of /b/ because not everybody comes to /b/ to shitpost about trannies. If you went to a trap thread and then went to a pro-Hitler thread you would likely get two different results.

the true definition of a word is how we use it, and here we are.
No, it isn't. A definition is a definition. It's what the word represents, if you claim that a definition holds no meaning and only context matters then I will simply call you transphobic as well.

You cannot refute my claiming you as transphobic, you claimed that definitions are how we use it and I have used it in the context of talking about trans people. From now on my definition of transphobia is any discussion on the topic.

>>728777908
So he hates girls but he's standing right next to a 20 year old girl.
I'm trying to think what this means. Is it some sorta subliminal thing?

>>728782948

>I do not know the psychology

I'm talking about the psychology you dumbfuck lol. I'm not saying there are no differences and you'd -know- that if you read my last paragraph.

The illiteracy in this thread is astounding. What i'm saying is that our modern definitions of masculinity are worthless and lead to otherwise perfectly healthy and capable men committing suicide.

>>728783233
they are hurting people. they are making a mockery of the legal system. they have a choice. There didn't suddenly drop a "no choice chemical bomb" in 2007.

Called out on what? Absolutely dick lol!
>please be cool with us for there is no reason for us to exist

>>728782948
Men's muscle tissue is more dense
That has to do with testosterone
To be fair a girl that gets oestrogen blockers and testosterone since her early teens would develop just as strong muscles

>>728782654

your not good evidence, your not an attractive guy or girl

>>728783233
I don't have a choice but to feel uncomfortable around trannies

>>728783479
come on let's hear that spitfire: but i don't understand why everyone can't sing kumbyah

>can't handle adversity or take care of themselves in the real world

>>728783444
You just claimed that masculine and feminine concepts made no sense biologically and I explained very clearly for you how specifically you are fucking retarded. I did not go in depth at psychological implications and pointed out how stupid it was to claim that biological derivatives are non-existent.

You call other people illiterate when you don't have the reading comprehension to recognize this simple fact? Good job attempting to completely dodge my point by the way

>>728782690
Cannibalism will do damage to the persons nervous system, like mad cow, and will cause the people to shake.
I don't get necrophilia either, namely if it's conventional but even then the deceased's family might have an issue with it.
As to the other stuff: yeah, it sucks that people are mean to each other. Tho I agree, I think science(really just the humanities) agrees but IMO more work needs to be done before we will really know and I suspect some of the ways that the sciences are going about helping these people isn't actually helpful. It'd be nice if those people didn't have to feel bad, but that's kinda applicable for everyone.

>>728777908
I think its a picture of a 10 year old boy, and a 20 year old girl.

Its an impossibility for it to represent anything else with how little information is given.

This comic is from a normal girl who happened to be a tomboy you fucking mongoloids

>>728783552
So you're telling me that if you fuck with a human's developmental phases and introduce hormones that would otherwise not exist within their biological structure they would change to be what we manipulated them into be?

Shocking, I had no idea. Also I would like a citation to this study done on pre-teen girls injected with testosterone

>>728783337
It's about how it's used in general, not how you in particular use it, idiot. Don't pretend to be retarded, you know what I mean. Words become used before they get defined for what they used. The use makes the definition. You know what I'm saying.

"Transphobic" as in a genuine "fear of trans people" was never in use. There was never at time when people thought, huh, we need a word for when people are AFRAID, as in HAVE FEAR OF transgendered people. Doesn't exist.

>>728783479
>they are hurting people. they are making a mockery of the legal system. they have a choice. There didn't suddenly drop a "no choice chemical bomb" in 2007.
>please be cool with us for there is no reason for us to exist
They don't have a choice. Even if they didn't, why shouldn't they be allowed to have a choice? This is the homosexuality thing all over again.
I'm sorry that they're hurting you, but it can't be worse than the 30 percent of transgendered people that attempt suicide.

>>728783686
That's fine and i'm sorry but, see above, it can't be that bad

>>728783444

tl;dr - We should be able to express more than just video game protagonist generic rage and more fully explore out naturally dominant characteristics without succumbing to base thuggery.

>>728783744
Consensual*

>>728783716

I didn't say that biological derivatives are non existent. Your reading comprehension skills need a lot of work before you can have this discussion without walking away like the frustrated manlet you are.

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if I found my gay friend naked on the floor crying after being raped would it be gay to help him?

>>728783870
>being forced to argue people have no choice in mutilating their bodies because otherwise your entire movement falls to shit

>people weren't dying in droves before body mutilation technology existed


pathetic wastes of air

>>728784060
yes, you should leave him there crying or you will not go to heaven

>>728783870
>Transphobic" as in a genuine "fear of trans people" was never in use

You added "phobic" onto the end of "trans". Do I honestly need to give you the definition of phobic? You are using a well known adjective and claiming that the definition is not what is has been for centuries.

It would be like if I were to tell you that racism means something completely different when applied to Asians, but for everything else it still holds the same meaning. You don't get to just pick and choose definitions.

>>728784042
Holy shit here is an exact quote from your post

>>728782267
"Our standards for both masculinity and femininity are frankly speaking, fucking retarded, make no goddamn sense socially -or- biologically"

Do you not know what you yourself typed?

>>728784071
>>being forced to argue people have no choice in mutilating their bodies because otherwise your entire movement falls to shit
They have to choice to have the surgery of course. But they naturally "feel like one gender on the inside and another on the outside". They don't have control over that. Then, some make the choice to get surgery. The transgender person I know felt alot better afterwards, at least they did hormone treatment, I never asked them about their dick tbh

>>728784148
Transphobic is not the same as trans phobic
It's a particular technical term, that's used in the way I described and never as in a phobia towards trans people

>>728777908
Retarded and simplistic. Most likely made by an american.

>>728780521
>I would work with them and ignore the transexuallityshit as good as possible
>I wouldn't hire one tho
so you'd work with them but also practice job discrimination on them?

>>728784442
Ophidiophobia

Acrophobia

Arachnophobia

Typical other phobias

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is it gay if you watch your gay friend trim his toe nails?

>>728784442
>can't handle things they have no control over
>feel better once their delusions are validated

The anxious person feels better when you give them medication. Then they depend on it. Then their coddled life falks apart when you take it away because they can't handle their own problem anymore.

The worst part is you think you are different just so you don't feel stupid. Cutting off your dick versus accepting criticism is unhealthy.

>>728784717
How would that be discrimination?

>>728784148
We're still not doctors and don't know the nuance to behind the word. Further, you're assuming that a fear is a fear. Sometimes that fear is much greater than your average persons knee jerk reaction to a situation that they disagree with. Sometimes fears are irrational, like with phobias, other times they're reactionary, like when someone text startles you, sometimes they're justified, like how someone would act if they saw a car driving at them. The phrase layers-of-meaning comes to mind and there seems to be vast missing details within our common day usage of phobia.

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>>728784442
>transphobic and trans phobic are two completely different things
>there has never been fear of trans people

I honestly don't even know what to say to you are this point, have fun with your delusions I guess. You attempted to call other people transphobic with the obvious intent of shutting them down when the concept of transphobia itself has no actual recognized definition outside of urban dictionary or wikipedia. So are you just using buzzwords to label people then? If I were to call you a sperglord it would hold about the same meaning technically speaking, but you're clearly trying to paint other people are afraid of trannies which was the overall point.

Nobody is afraid of trannies, and by the definition that basically everybody on the planet uses they are not transphobic in the sense of a phobia.

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>>728777908
The problem with trans is they only support some rights. They want me to support their right to hormones, but they won't support my right to twin M134. As Attackhelicopterkin I have no choice. To deny me my M134's is to deny my identity.

>>728784865
because they didn't have a choice to mutilate themself hurr durr

Well drawn, a bit blurry, ood colors, 8/10 over all.

>>728781769
Wow. So, Eastern Europe in the hizzy, huh?

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>>728784905
>>there has never been fear of trans people

>I honestly don't even know what to say to you are this point, have fun with your delusions I guess.

You really think I'm afraid of trans? I honestly don't even know what to say to you are this point, have fun with your delusions I guess.

>>728784730
Well done those are other technical terms with particular meanings, which are actual phobias
Transphobia has the term "phobia" in it, and has the same greek roots, but doesn't mean the same thing.

>>728784814
Again, you don't have any moral highground because you're defending them from the liberal evil agenda of transgenderism. They can do what they want: They have no choice but to feel the way they do
You're not helping them by being a prick. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE MORAL HIGHGROUND

>>728784905
Transphobic has a particular definition, I said it like ten times in this thread, it's getting tedious with you retards

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if you were caught out in a blizzard in Antarctica would be gay to huddle with your gay friend for body wormth and let him essentially spoon you?

>>728784865
hiring not based upon the skill set needed but superficialities unrelated to the work

>>728784895
>We're still not doctors and don't know the nuance to behind the word
I didn't realize I needed to be a doctor to have basic comprehension of a word's definition. The doctors CREATE the definition for us normies to know the meaning behind them. This is why transphobia does not exist. It is not a legitimately recognized medical term but rather just a shit flinging attempt by trans activists to shut people down.

My only problem is that they call people trans phobic to paint them in the light of being "irrational nutjobs". Much like people simply call someone else racist for bringing up 2013 FBI crime data.

>>728785086
master argument

Curious why suddenly now every boy wants to be a girl. Honestly it's just looking like a trend, like tattoos and yoga pants.

>>728785126
Then every time you use the term transphobia you are making fun of people that have real phobias

>>728777908
hahahaha welcome to a new millenium

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>>728785126
>Transphobic has a particular definition, I said it like ten times in this thread, it's getting tedious with you retards

A definition we do not accept. We've said it like ten times in this thread, it's getting tedious with you, retard. Maybe you should fuck off back to tumblr.

>>728785126
>If i say moral high ground a bunch of times I don't have to respond to your comments

I can just see you getting fatter, your hair turning orange. And are those glasses without lenses?

>>728785291
You can not accept it, but it's how most people use it so that's the definition, that's how those work

>>728785126
>>728784442
>>728783870
>>728782690
>>728780982
>>728780050
>>728778919
These are my posts, people are really mad at them and are typing out replies rn, but I have to go, bye, I will read your replies on barchive

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transphobic means "a wide variety of negative perceptions of trans people" the same way racism means "power plus privilege". the people who were using the word most often just decided that it would be more convenient for them if it meant something else because the label sticks well as an insult. instead of meaning what the word meant in the past they just decided to change it to whoever they want it to apply to: in the case of racism it was narrowed to white people and in the case of transphobic it was broadened to everyone who's not an "ally" or whatever.

it's bullshit but it's also irrelevant.

>>728785126
And I told you that the definition you're using is a fabrication. It's a buzzword created by feminists and urban dictionary addicts. Give me a credible source to your definitions.

You can't because there isn't one, you googled it in a pathetic last minute attempt to give yourself credibility. Give me a link to something credible for the definition you gave, until then you can fuck right off.

>>728785184
>unrelated to work
But I work best with people I cope with
Thats very relevant for work

>>728777908
Population control based on Marxism ideology founded to debase white civilization.

>>728785086
*tips fedora*
*teleports behind u*
*gives reasoned perspective and debunks argument entirely*

pshhh..... nothin presenell....... kid......................

>>728785126
>pained screeching

ahhhhh, i remember the day the whole country got cucked. Feburary 26, 2012 the shot heard around the world. That day was when all this freak shit began, all the SJWs came out of the woodworks, fags pushed for rights that they already had, niggers became even more 'Dindu nuffins', the everyday whiteman got cucked by liberals.

>>728785126
inb4 too many people are calling me retarded i have to go

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>>728785374
"phobic" means fear. If you're not actually talking about fear, then you're using a fear word for blatant propaganda. We don't need your propaganda here, we came her to get away from it. Go back to you tumblr cesspool, we don't need you here.

>>728785189
Ah, mah bad. Tho they don't make definitions for us to but for them. It's more important that they're able to convey meaning to each other than for us normies to understand. But thanks for the info, didn't know that transphobia was not a medical term and therefore bullshit.

>>728785571
Are you illiterate you fucking nigger?

>>728785522
shit was I too slow?

>>728785437

Please stop eating paint chips.

What about "Hydrophobic"?

>>728785405
you just said earlier that you'd work with them but denying a means to make an honest living even if they were the most qualified candidate seems to the contrary

also that would be the same as someone saying they're not going to hire any veterans because they feel uncomfortable around them

>>728785575
Nah it's k, but that's what I was trying to explain to this other anon. He/she/zhe/whatever is trying to call people transphobic and "googled a definition" that can only be found on urban dictionary and wikipedia.

It might be a medically recognized phobia in the future at the rate that social justice is going, but it certainly won't be defined as "negative feelings towards trans people" like this anon >>728785126 would like to suggest

>>728785571
He is on our side faggot

>>728785779
Have you ever seen an animal suffering from rabies?

>>728785745
Enjoy your false narrative while you can.

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>>728785522
>oh shit my arguments have been completely BTFO time to ditch this thread and fuck off back to my tranny/cuck shitposting

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TFW people think that being trans is natural and not a severe mental disorder.

>>728785744
Fuck I was
>>728785360
You fucking faggots need to remember this next time you're having a discussion with a mentally ill person like they are a member of society. They aren't. Save your humanity for people that need it.

I'd fuck the 10 year old pretty hard is what I think.

>>728785912
What? No

>>728785936

You are the one creating a narrative out of Marxism.

>>728779476
>passed by some agenda
Pretty sure that agenda is just the prevention of violence. Lots of laws passed with the same agenda protect you.
>they are such a crime against nature
By definition they are the product of nature. They are a crime against your culture.
>incapable of taking care of themselves
Let me tell you about my friend Rin. He used to be a she. She was a real snowflake, just wanted to draw and do furry shit all day. Her boyfriend worked his ass off while she wasted her life. Then, she came out as trans, started taking T, got top surgery, got a job, moved out of her parents house, and is now a productive member of society. It only took 25 years and a sex change, but hey I'm proud of him.

>>728778076
True

>>728778778
You're the majority, idiot

>>728786119
Do a minimum amount of research before you shit post at the very least, lest you sound like a faggy shill.

>>728786120
>I will just pass off my personal opinions as fact

every sjw in existence

>>728785833
Topkek, I wonder if wikipedia built their definition, in part, out of stuff from urban dictionary.

I find it sad that people jump to conclusions and use word/suffixes/etc where they don't apply, or do shit like what I do sometimes and just misunderstand.

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>>728777908
Is it too much to ask the mentally ill to reconsider their life choices?

>>728786210

This is like living in opposite world; you shit post about a Marxism conspiracy than tell me to do research about something you pulled from your ass. Marxism shares more in common with National Socialism than it does with transgender people.

>>728786158
BUT THEY DONT HAVE A CHOICE

>>728785829
I would work with one but I would work better with someone that doesn't repels me
If I found by own small engineering office someday I will do shit hiring someone I feel uncomfortable around
Why would I?
Why would anyone for fucks sake?
Even if it's the most qualified person for itself it would do the company no good

>>728786244
No where did I say I had the answers. I gave a good explanation for the agenda (which you may reasonably disagree with). I gave an inductive argument by definition. Then I told a story from my personal life - the same thing everyone does to offer a new perspective.

>>728785833
It
The third pronoun is it

>>728786330

>Praising the man who put a bullet to his head.

I enjoyed his take on mental illness. Always nice to see leaders following their own advice.

After the singularity when we all become cyborgs I bet that 95% of all of you will make your cyborg bodies resemble that of your waifus and 75% of them will probably be futas. But hey, at least it beats being a fat neck beard virgin amiright?

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>>728785360
It isn't that people don't accept the definition, it's that the definition is a fabricated one that is being used to push a narrative.

It's really fucking simple. People like this faggot >>728785126 call other people transphobic in an attempt to make the person they are arguing with look like a paranoid irrational person because BY DEFINITION a phobia is a medically recognized term to describe this.

The reality is that transphobia is not a widely recognized term but something created by these people with the express purpose to strawman somebody. This is why that retard needs a "special definition" for transphobia because otherwise his entire argument is about as credible as calling all of society racist because "privilege + power" instead of what most people think of racism as.

It's sophistry, meant to create something that sounds like it is legitimate to anybody who won't take 2 seconds to critically think about it.

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The singular form of "they" has existed longer than "she" - use it.

>>728786349
Why not?

>>728786120
>she asked for special attention and consideration instead of accepting the consequences of her actions or apologizing

We call this bias

>>728786384
so if someone else felt uncomfortable working with veterans it would be ok not to hire them over that? what about christians? or white people? would that be ok too?

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When did the Mike "Deus Volt" Pence meme come back? Did he recently shock a gay or someyhing

>>728786539
Because they are not to be considered mature humans

>>728786388
>I didn't specifically say things don't put words in my mouth ree ree ree

Then shut up.

>>728786593
She asked for these things? Rin?
He didn't ask for shit.He doesn't care about pronouns (thinks forcing them on people is stupid) and he's always worked his ass off (before on pointless things). Now he just as more motivation for improving his life. It's amazing what not lying to yourself and the world will do for motivation.

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Shure
No point in letting an old Nazi and a nigger work together
Would just destroy the workingspace climate

>>728786539
because every trans person has a bomb in their chest that will go off unless they grow tits

>>728786708
Oh, I'm sorry, do my experiences not fit in with your tiny world view? How dare I insult you by having more knowledge about the people you hate.

>>728786625
Yes

>>728786342
>"their beliefs are different from trannies"
>IMPLYING I mean trannies and Marxists are the same
Its okay, reading comprehension is hard for people who feel through their day instead of deduction.

>>unverifiable claptrap that only affects personal behaviour

Explain why this shit has turned into people advocating hormones and surgery for children.

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Are you stupid
He ate a Blausäurekapsel

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He has always been here, watching, waiting. A silent hero in the night disposing of trannies.

I want to create a comic book where Mike Pence is the hero and his super powers are the ability to control lightning. And he fights a gang of blue/red haired dykes and zhes from the 27th gender plain of reality.

would you anons read that?

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>>728786791
so you would be completely ok with not getting hired for a job because they don't like superficial things about you?

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Kek

shit that's pretty relatable though

>>728786859

>"their beliefs are different from trannies"

Yeah the Marxists and National Socialists share more in common than trannies.

>IMPLYING I mean trannies and Marxists are the same

I am implying you are mentally challenged for saying the Marxists want population control via turning people transgender.

>Its okay, reading comprehension is hard for people who feel through their day instead of deduction.

All I ask is that you stop being mentally challenged.

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>Rin

one your experience reeks of some enlightened neckbeard DnD experience and

two, yeah. Rin practiced escapism. Instead of fixing their own life only validating their delusions would do. With procedures that were never ever necessary and still aren't.

>not lying to yourself
Are you fucking serious? This person is wearing the biggest mask they make. You are dumb

>>728786926

Yes, is that not what he wanted other mentally ill people to do?