ameritards, why are you scared of a manual transmission?

why are you poor?

>>728676099
Because I don't care to do anything I don't have to that requires more attention to be taken away from the road.

But I drive a manual car and am American you eurofag

>>728676099
haven't seen one of these threads in awhile.

i learned on a manual though.

Whatever Paul you Britbong Paedo.

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>>728676442
Paul the Britbong Paedo

>>728676348
Does not happen because shifting becomes an habit.

>>728676348
by doing these actions you're more involved with traffic.
Besides it is not an action you need to actively look at the shiftstick for. basic motor skills will do.

>>728676348
in no way should you be operating a motor vehicle

>>728676348
you probably have 101 video game keyboard commands memorized, though.

>>728676099
don't feel the need to give a car a handjob all day.
besides it is a fact that automatics get better gas mileage

>>728676348
probably can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm not. I could drive a manual but it's easier to drive an automatic and there's not substantial reason to not choose the convenience

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>>728676788
Lick my butthole faggot

As a yuropoor i can say:
Logically speaking there is no reason for a car to be manual anymore. We've got the technology and it improves your life, therefore - why the fuck not? If you don't agree with this simple concept why don't you ride on horseback? People are afraid though because it's seen as unmanly to have an automatic car which is probably the only reason why we didn't adapt.

more freedom when you drive an automatic you fag

>>728676975
You mean other than the facts in this pic related
>>728677009

>>728677013
you still get more control with a manual... im american and its all ive driven since i was 17

>>728676099
ive been driving my uncles car its a cvt automatic thing and its unbearable, once the pass opens i can head over and get my truck and be back to driving a 5 speed

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>>728677009
>improved acceleration
due to lower gas mileage

>>728676099
I drive manual and will never go back to auto

>>728677044
nose picker detected

harder to drink my beer in traffic

>>728677196
that's why the foam dome was invented.

>>728676099

when i drive down the interstate, i see people doing various things behind the wheel with both hands at 80 mph like texting, reading books, putting on makeup, eating, watching tv, etc. not possible with one hand and half your attention on dr. freud down there

>>728677166
You might not have a choice. There are fewer and fewer manual transmission cars built every year.

>>728676855
kek

>>728677050
>in some cars

>>728677013
how about I just like it.

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Have you heard of a three on the tree. We did that. I have a 65 F100 with a 3 speed manual+ electric overdrive. So yeah Americans don't know manually shifty magig hurdur....

>>728677258
on highway it actually is. on highways you dont change gears so you're not doing anything?

>>728677009

Yeah this is pretty well known to people that actually give a shit about cars. Manual transmissions are generally 100-200 lbs lighter than their automatic counterparts, making them more efficient in several ways. They are also more durable, last longer, and handle more torque than automatics. The automatic transmission is literally only available because of convenience. And now it's the cancer that is choking the automotive industry to a slow and painful death. Even CVTs, which in theory are the most efficient transmission concept, have been modified to be less efficient, prone to issues and breakdowns, and even heavier because manufacturers received complains that people want them to behave like automatics. My fellow Americans are lazy assholes.

Been driving my dads automatic Volvo, its good to drive but it gets a little boring, cant wait to get my own manual back from repair

>>728676099
Cars are stupid in general, the whole culture creates too many cancerous autofags that think they're hard as fuck.

>>728677009
You can short shift with manual which means better milage. Or you can hit the limiter for better acceleration.
I have an auto and manuals. Manual is more fun and more control. I get complacent and fall asleep driving my auto.

>>728677388
that's exactly my point - there's no logical reasoning behind not wanting an automatic
as >>728677009 pointed out: there are indicators thowards logical arguments, but noone gives a fuck anyways.
it's an emotional decision

>>728677132
You get both because your not wasting energy through a torque converter

Amerifat here.

I drive a manual, and I drive an auto. Just depends on the weather, what mood I am in, and how long of a trip I am taking.

>>728676788
>fact that automatics get better gas mileage
lol that people believe this

>>728676099
Because they need to hold the Coke in right hand

Constantly cycling neutral, first, second in traffic is ass. Reason enough. Automatics arent commonly available because the convenience is enjoyed and the cost is affordable and justifiable. However, outside of traffic, manual is certainly more fun, and as far as the car responding to you, automatic is absolute ass (no response from depressing pedal until it suddenly drops gear and throttles way up).

>>728677009
I fully expect that is only true if you follow all the obsessions necessary for maximizing mileage, which is unrealistic for any transmission.

Automatic transmission is factually safer due to requiring 2 less limbs to operate the vehicle. It allows you to maintain both hands in the wheel, or multitask while driving without further impediment to your ability to operate the vehicle.

The excuse of mildly better gas mileage and cheaper repair are poorfag tier. The excise of a manual being more "fun" is the only acceptable one, but not everyone is looking for a hobby in their driving experience.

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>>728677132
You don't actually believe that do you? Do you know what a torque converter dose? It slips. Almost always, unless it's locked up.
TLDR:Slip=Loss

>>728676553
so does chugging a fifth of Taaka while cruising down the road at 75, but I wouldn't condone it

Because I live in a large city and traffic in an automatic is fucking miserable. Constant stop and go in an auto all day is fucking awful. I'll gladly take slightly worse specs in my comuting car for convenience

>>728676553
I drove a manual for 2 years and it never became a habit for me, I hated the fuck out of it and will never touch one again if I can help it.

>>728676099
> why would you use modern technology when the old, outdated ways are much """""""better""""""

same reason I don't churn my own butter, shit in a pot, or drive a horse/buggy to town

>>728676099
we're just evolving past it... u know bc of that whole we have money thing and dont need to recycle old pieces of shit

I need a free hand to smoke weed or finger your mom.

>>728678082
lmao dam got em

Manual is fucking cool though

Driving a manual only has one bonus: you feel badass. Other than that it's just a waste of effort

>>728678082
Found the wrx driver

>>728678151
so is reading by candlelight and watching VHS tapes but we have better ways of doing shit now

>>728678163
Yeah. That and all the performance benefits

>>728678165
no hes more of the mid-90s rusted civic driver from the trailer park.

>>728678244
You realize that most people aren't faggots and use their cars to commute and don't care about the 2% performance difference

I reckon manuals are safer because you need to pay attention. Autos are so borING it's hard to keep concentration up. I just daydream while staring out the window.

>>728678319
Bus rider detected

>>728678319
nah brah, if you're not cranking it to 9000 rpm and popping the clutch you're a faggot brah

I only race for pinks bitch! the left lane is my homefield turf straight up, you feel me? I race everywhere...racing is in my blood brah!

Going to the gas station? getting a jug of milk? commuting to my part time job at Subway? Hell yeah I'm hittin that NOS son, gotta step on the gas and go fast!

>>728678401
>Talking about driving a car
>bus rider

Damn you're stupid

>>728676099
manual is going to outdated in the next decade or two. The only argument for it is that an experienced human can have the engine perform slightly better than an automatic. As soon as that threshold is crossed and they can tighten up an auto transmission to the point that its more adept than a human, manual transmissions will be obsolete

It's like most things. Automatic is just easier and boring for people that can't be bothered using more motor skills or brain power than they need to. It's more convenient for the lazy person.
Would you prefer to use softwares and cameras in automode? Or hardcore manual mode where you actual have to intuitively contribute.

>>728678568
Yes because no one on /b/ talks out of their ass about things they know nothing about. You burned me so bad. I need a burn unit.

>>728677808
You mean aside from the impediment that using your phone and doing other shit while driving brings? There's a reason why there's constantly news about americans wrecking their cars and killing people in the most retarded ways. When driving a car becomes as boring as driving on a bus shit happens. Laziness only breads more laziness and stupidity.

>>728677726
>no response from depressing pedal until it suddenly drops gear and throttles way up

Does not know how to manually shift an auto?

>>728676099
Because I don't like touching items that looks like a penis let alone jerking it.

>>728676099
Brit tard why do you down shift when approaching a stop instead of putting it in neutral?

>>728678633
Only problem with that comparison is photography is a hobby and most people drive out of necessity not for fun

>>728676099
We are not

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>>728678653
>stupidity
>breads

>>728678653
I second this

>>728678593
Manual shift will only become obsolete when the driver becomes obsolete. Until then cars can't read your mind so automatic will always be inefficient.

>>728676788
>automatics get better gas mileage
Your total lack of vehical knowledge and driving skill is why they put you in an automatic.

>>728678747
Maybe they would actually drive for fun if they did some of the work themselves. You know, like working out yourself is more enjoyable than watching others do it. Unless you're a lazy fuck.

>>728678714
It's called engine braking and having ultimate control of your car and speed. Coasting is for poorfags who can't afford gasoliiiine! Or whatever that piss is you put in your car's across the pond.

>>728678653
You mean you can use your phone and drive in the US at the same time?

>>728676099
Many Americans know to to drive a manual.. but for me, living a Denver where I am constantly in traffic, I prefer to have an automatic. If I lived in rural area, I would rather have a manual.

>>728676099
I have never owned an automatic car. Been driving shift for 11 years now.

>>728676099
They are for poor people here bro.

I learned stick on a duce and a half. gtfo nerds

>>728676099
do you still hand wash your clothes in a basin? i use a washing machine.. i also drive automatic.

>>728679123
You still type like a nigger.

How am I supposed to eat a burger when one hand is on a stick and the other on the wheel?

Think before you speak third world trash.

>>728678835
Computers in cars will "learn" as it's driven by a human, eventually able to predict your habits with very high accuracy. This step will certainly happen before drivers are completely obsolete

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>>728676099

Because i'm not a drag racer? No benefit otherwise.

8 speed zf, maybe if you could afford actual cars...

I enjoy driving. Even mundane as driving to work or for some peperami from the shop I still like it to be fun. So I choose stick as my preference.

>>728676099
>american men consider using a manual to be manly af
this is directed at women and femboys right? cause europe has those too

More embarrassing...

As an amerifag that drives standard, when I get in an automatic, sometimes I mistakenly jam the brake, going for the clutch

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>>728677013
>>728677616
Greater degree of control, cheaper to buy, lighter, more durable, cheaper to repair, better acceleration, better gas mileage. The only reason to consider automatic is if you have a disability or no coordination, in which case you shouldn't be driving at all.

>>728679564
Holy shit I know these feels. The hardest I've ever been laughed at since high school was doing this and leaving a huge skid behind me as a cop across the street watched the manifestation of my retardation

>>728676099
We're not, which leads me to my question... How did you become retarded?

>>728679317
Well considering all the tests around driverless cars at the moment.

Thing is a driverless car has to be programmed to kill the driver, because there will be a situation where it either hits a group of people and kills several or just kills the driver and it has to go with the least dangerous result

>>728677945
>I couldn't shift out of first mommy!
Actual living proof of why automatics exist

>>728676099
automatic transmissions are the future, yuropoor. your shitty country doesnt have them because they cant afford them

>>728679685
It took 15 minutes to learn, it's not hard, just annoying.

I already hate driving enough, why add extra shit on top of it.

>>728679564
People develop bad habits driving automatics in uk like left foot braking. Then they drive stick and press clutch instead of brake ha. Twats.

For a daily commuter, automatic is fine.

Worth being good at driving anything, ya know... For a shtf scenario.

>>728679873
Kek, is not a go kart

>>728679019
>I would rather put wear on the gears than on the brake pads

I actually read somewhere that driving instructors teach this. How fucking dumb are you guys?

>>728679958
That's the problem. You have a go and a stop. It is pretty much a go kart.....

>>728680004
Engine braking/downshifting is a perfectly acceptable practice when done correctly.

>>728679368
>weaboo
>uneducated dumb dumbfuck opinion

Go figure

>>728676099
I'm not. 4 of the 6 cars I've owned have been manual. I prefer MT but it's a PITA in stop & go traffic.

>>728676099
First car I ever drove was a little manual Honda. I loved that car. But now that I live in the city, I have an automatic. I'm glad I do, too. Most mornings I can barely drive fifty feet before having to slow to a complete stop. There's no purpose for me to have a manual transmission anymore. To be honest, I've been thinking about getting rid of my car altogether.

>>728680004
I admit that it us dumb in that respect but it's about being able to stop and not kill yourself. If your going down a steep hill and your brakes overheat or fail then that equals death in an automatic.

>>728676099
Im not i just cant find one for a decent price or one thats not a complete piece of shit. Plus its less shit to worry about also lets me text and drive for maximum nigger casualties

Sounds like Americans really don't enjoy driving. Even when I'm surrounded by retards crawling at walking speed I'm still enjoying it but I guess to Americans everything that gets them away from the tv counts as work.

>>728680210
Also snow. In an auto you can't put in higher gear for more traction.

>>728676099
can't use it

lol i own and drive a standard transmission. its not called manual it is called standard

>>728680325
Every minute in a car is a minute i could be doing something more productive either in a work or personal sense.

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>>728679373

>8 speed zf, maybe if you could afford actual cars...

Ok, what car do you drive and how much did you pay for it? Also, did you pay cash, lease it or finance it?

Because my personal impression is that a lot of people drive cars they can't actually afford. The problem is you only see them driving by. When the car gets repossessed you're not there to witness it.

>>728680096
Still gay as fuck and not better in any way over using brake pads

In honesty, a lot of American drag racers use a highly modified automatic trans.

It permits predictable tuning of as many variables as possible. Engagement pressure, clutch composition, shift timing, etc.

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>>728676099
I'm not. Mine doesn't even have a hydraulic clutch, it's chain driven

I'm also not afraid of manual steering, manual brakes, and no doors/top

I'm a mechanic. Autos are fucking nightmare. The gearboxes are heavy and shit to work on as is clutch.

>>728680553
Someone else mentioned downhill grades. As I said, perfectly acceptable practice when done correctly.

Try going over a mountain range in a large truck sometime.

>>728680210
There is a thing called a hand brake

>>728677085
what pass?

>>728676099
Have you seen our fucking traffic, nigger? Ever get a goddamn cramp in your ankle from riding the clutch through 2 hours of gridlock? No? Go fuck yourself.

>>728676099
I'm not, I own two cars and five motorcycles and there's not an automatic transmission to be found.

>>728676099
You fucking spazmoloid, you are an embarrasment to non muricans everywhere.

>>728680659
Truth. One mechanic can drop a Ford t5 manual by themselves without a jack.

Good luck with an equivalent scale automatic.

>>728679248
You don't constantly keep your hand on the stick you fuck

>>728680698
Yeah just yank the handbrake up. That will help avoid an accident. Jerk.

>>728680685
>in certain scenarios

I get it. Then why in the UK do they teach you to engine brake every time you slow down?

Only girls drive automatic

>>728680819
Yeah, let's just blow the transmission and total the car because my brakes weren't as responsive on a hill.

Because I like to finger bang your mom while I drive.

A standard transmission should only be used in vehicles that need it, like large trucks, high performance vehicles, or even classic cars. If your driving around in a toyota corolla or the like and have a standard transmission, thinking you are superior to other drivers, you need to kill yourself. Im not a faggot who would drive anything with <400hp with a standard.

>>728680921
Why not? You keep in the right gear and rev range to either accelerate off or brake further. If your in neutral coasting with foot on brake then what happens if your child walks out in front? Just brake harder and hope for best? It's even easier to coast in a munual if you were so bothered. Just bang the clutch in.

>>728681096
neither of you understand what the other is saying.

>>728681160
The bigger question here is why would you drive anything other than a sports car?

>inb4 muh familee

A stick in a minivan is the most retarded thing I've ever imagined, but anybody who drives a high-performance work of art with an automatic deserves to be shipped to Sweden or some other African country.

Manuals : Easier to repair (can still drive when semi-broken) more control of your vehicle with capability to predict torque at any given moment. Better gas mileage (if you're not a tool.) more reliable, cheaper to fix. But kind of annoying when you're stuck in highway stop and go.

Automatics: Much more convenient, easier to eat mcdonalds and easier to suck your boyfriend off.


I've owned 7 cars in my life. Mr2 sw20, 240sx, crx si, mazda speed 3, s2000, jeep cherokee, and fox body mustang. The jeep was the only automatic and I felt like the experience of driving was a chore miserable until the destination. Currently have my s2k and mr2 driving is exciting, and enjoyable even just daily driving to work.

>>728677085
Fuck CVTs, my girlfriend's car has one and it's totally unrepairable - you replace the whole transmission or nothing. Thankfully I've converted her to the Church of the Stickshift so she realizes the error of her ways.

>>728681096
No let's just go from no brake to full brake. The aim is to avoid loss of traction and control. U yank handbrake up at speed and u skid....

>>728677268
Keep a classic going and you'll have something awesome to last your lifetime that the CIA can't drive into a wall.

>>728681160
And people like this will never dive good

>>728681292
Probably his British unfree accent

>>728681465
Considering there's no way that engine braking will ever come close to decently performing brakes, "let's replace the brake pads" sounds a whole lot better than "oh yippee, I need a new transmission."

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>>728676099
>ameritards, why are you scared of a manual transmission?

>Automatics: Much more convenient, easier to eat mcdonalds and easier to suck your boyfriend off.

I drove to work for 3 week in a manual with no clutch what so ever as I couldn't be arsed fixing it. Can you do that in auto? No. I have answered my own question.

>>728681691
You probably own a smartphone too.

>>728676099
As an American who drives manual vehicle, I find the entire argument fucking retarded. Driving stick is just as easy as driving automatic, it just takes a little learning with the clutch. I know several people who drive stick. Super simple stuff you cunt.

>>728677188
2 kinds of people in the world; nose pickers and liars

I personally prefer manual transmission, but here in 'merica' they actually charge you more money on a new car to get manual if it is even offered... Other than my Lincoln I own now, every single auto transmission vehicle I've ever owned has 'died' due to trans going out, and the car wasn't worth the 2-4 grand to rebuild...

>>728681657
Why do race cat drivers and motor sports use engine braking then? Why do they not coast round corners? Why they put all that strain on their expensive engine dropping to 2nd gear for a tight corner? When they could just replace their brakes instead???

>>728681793
It's just lazy people who are too afraid to learn because they don't care about themselves. They're the type who eat in their cars and leave pizza boxes and trash in the back seat.

Or have back seats in the first place.

I've been a driving "coach" for about 10 years. Our company cars are all automatics for insurance and maintenance reasons, but we teach engine braking to stundents in the state mandated classroom and when they bring their own personal stick shifts. Unless you are grinding the gears it doesn't really wear them, maybe just a bit of clutch, but nothing more expensive than running through brake pads all the time

>>728681657
That's what they don't fucking understand and it's because they teach that shit like a religion in the UK. It's simple as fuck: more wear on the transmission or more wear on the brake pads.

>>728676099
I like automatics because it makes texting and driving that much easier

>>728677945
After 2 years you still had to focus on it? That almost looks like it's not the cars fault.

>>728681912
You don't shift into second for a corner because of braking, you shift into it because it puts you in a better position on the powerband for ideal power delivery.

I'm really praying you're being sarcastic.

>>728676099
I own two manual cars.

But the stereotype is well deserved.

>>728681912
>no I'm right because in Mac Trucks with loaded trailers and professional drivers going 200mph they do this!

Just stop.

>>728676099
My inner bicep is gone and I have half a deltoid following surgeries. I'm not using a damn stick, I can't even fap with my right hand.

>>728679777
You can broom broom like in my japanese cartoons.

>>728682151
>current year
>not being able to shift with your left hand

How have you not just joined a Buddhist monastery and removed yourself from the world?

>>728679662
I agree with this gentleman. This aint no I, Robot.

What will the computer do if an asshole driver starts speeding towards you and there is no room to dodge it, does it just ram you into the railing?

>>728681886
My car was almost 1k cheaper without the automatic transmission.

>>728676099
Driving an 8 speed right now.
Not afraid

>>728682016
Who said it was the cars fault? I never claimed to be anything special.

>>728682047
>>728682144
Maybe my point was lost. Yeah you need to be in that powerband. You can't do that in auto. And if youve over shot your braking point a bit and then lift your clutch and the engine can help you avoid that cliff or tire wall.

>>728676099
I'm not. I love it.

Fucking hard to find a car with a manual though. :(

>>728681657
Lol wat.

Yes. Let's be hauling a bunch of shit and hit the brakes.

>hey why is my brake pedal so mushy..
>why aren't I slowing down


Engine braking is perfectly fine you idiot

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a MAN'S car

Why are you britfags scared of driving on the right side of the road?

>>728678593
Manuals are easier/cheaper to repair and reduce the vehicle's overall weight

>>728682549
If his name is Caitlyn, sure

>>728682549
you're not helping.

There is literally nothing wrong with downshift-decelerating

I've never been so proud to drive a manual shift then I am after reading this thread.

>>728678835
Once they're all electric transmission as a whole will be obsolete. Until then I'll stick with the double clutch automatics. The one I drive now allows me to change gears manually from the paddles on the wheel anyway ..

>>728682548
I'm talking about in a real car, not in a fucking semi. And with progressive braking - i.e. not "hitting the brakes" but exponential increasing pressure - you'll stop faster.

Of course, since every fucking person on the road drives a "lorry..." OH WAIT THEY FUCKING DON'T.

>>728676099
I'm not. It's all I drive dumbass

>>728682548
>in my special scenario engine braking actually helps!

Then why do you use it at every stop anon?
>>728682705

Not necessarily. The difference is almost negligible, like manual vs automatic. But everyone knows who the fucking faggot is by what they chose.

>>728676099
because my humvee doesn't have one

>>728682549
does your bf let you drive?

I drive manual, since I got my licence 12 years ago. But I really appreciate auto in the city traffic during an 8 hour shift.

>>728676099
My 7 speed DSG is comfy as fuck

>>728682805
Engine braking in a regular car isn't going to do a whole bunch of damage either ya dumb red coat.

Sure if you're slamming into gears and over reving. You'll break shit. Other than that it's fine

>>728676099
Almost every car I've ever owned has been a manual transmission...
half the cars I own right now have a manual

>>728679662
Okay, but what does that have to do with the transmission?

>>728683050
I do it every chance I get. Because it saves brake pads etc.

You act like doing this in a regular car is going to make it explode

>>728676099
Actually Americans prefer manuals over other countries. All the euro fags like floppy paddle shifters.

>>728683050
I live in an area with lots of hills and low speed limits. It's nice to be able to just pop into 2nd gear down a steep hill so I don't have to ride my brakes to stay under 30mph.

>>728683256
Half of zero is still zero.

Only of euro shifters. Your reverse is where 1st should be

I enjoy driving. I race in rallyx and drift race's. I need a clutch. So I'm biased. And I use engine braking while driving round town and approaching stop lights as it sounds and feels awesome. Anti lag and shit. Bwooorm Bwooorm tshhhhht Braaaarwn tsssht. Pop n bang bro's

>>728683187
Neither does regular stopping. How often have you replaced your brake pads? Not often. If you're slamming the brake down, you'll equally wear the pads out faster, just like you'd break your transmission if you jammed down four gears to stop.

In an emergency, which are you going to default to? The brakes.

In either situation of "normal wear," which is cheaper to replace? Yup, the brake pads. Which stops you faster? Yup, the brakes.

>>728683187
You know what else is fine? Coasting from a mile back and then lightly pressing the pedal to stop. Not only do you save money and have a vastly improved gas mileage, but you are also excersizing American freedom and heterosexuality

>>728676099
Most enjoyable way to drive is manual transmission automatics make driving so boring.

I drive manual and actually know how to use the rpm gauge to synchronize clutch torque with engine torque when I downshift or get in gear from neutral. This takes skill and time to learn.

>>728683589
That's a slippery slope, anon. Pretty soon we'll just be bicycling, walking, and possibly posting on Craigslist offering blowjobs for bukkake videos.

>>728683589
You can coast in manuals to. Just bang clutch in. Don't even need stick. Simple.

>>728676099
eurofag here and i HATE manual. Its just broing, annoying, just stupid. We build rockets, that fly to mars and use a flying crane to deploy a vehicle there. All on their own, without any human interaction. And then there are idiots like OP who want to tell me that i have to change my gear by hand. totally retarded and highly autistic.

>>728683304
>let's put extra stress on a part that is intended to last the life of the vehicle and not on this part that is intended to be replaced

Nah, I'd rather be American

>>728683819
>clutch in
>rev to correct point in powerband
>gas with clutch out
>go

It's not that hard, Takumi.

>>728683884
Intended for
>>728683374

>>728683872
You probably own a smartphone too, you mouthbreathing piece of mindless cow shit.

>>728683571
Again. Point being is normal engine braking isn't adding any wear on your trans.

>>728683589
Coasting how? In neutral? If that's what you meant, then you're wrong

>>728683922
You still use your brakes in downshifting. You still need to brake. Like in an auto.

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>>728676099

Because I am savagely obese and mighty hungrah. I don't have no stinkin' time to shift the little dildo stick you Eurofags like to ram up your ass while I'm driving to the Freedom Rally in the field behind my wife's boyfriend's trailer. I need to eat while I drive, and by eat I mean use both hands to eat and steer with my massive freedom-loving stomach full of Natty Ice. Get on my level.

>>728683884
Still so wrong.

>>728683872
you probably ask for ketchup at a chippy

>>728683922
I do it within 200 rpm accuracy you fuckwit, every day 20 - 30 miles

>>728677877
This. If it wasn't for shitty city traffic, I would be in a manual.
Also, it sucks that newer "manuals" often don't have clutches.

>>728684378
number of girls impressed by this: 0

>>728684378
Please tell me more about how awesome you are. It's really not that hard ya mook

I read that every year more Americans are run down by their own automatic cars than are killed by terrorism. Anyone know how true this is?

>>728684425
I impressed you, you little cunt so +1

>>728684425
nothing get a girl wetter than shifting gear properly. shows you know how to respond to the engine's purr.

>>728683872
>rockets
>fly to mars
No, but then again when we design a rocket it has a very specific trip to make. The only other circumstances taken into account are circumstances considered an error and generally quite bad.

Sure, I can give you a car that drives itself and does everything on a very specific trip with very specific traffic at a very specific moment, but guess what, you're an assclown who thinks that's inconvenient because you might want to creep up some high school girls at different times.

If you want to be able to do a lot then install things to be able to handle different circumstances.
Automatics are getting better but christ most of the ones driving on the road are so terrible in speed, fuel consumption or gearing up at an awkward moment.

>I have enough money idc about fuel
>I'm not 12 idc about speed
That's no reason to waste it.

>>728684206
And yet you can't explain why engine braking is practical in any scenario other than professional racing and driving big rigs on hatchbacks.

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>>728684557

>>728684596
this

>>728677435
i have the same truck /b/ro
i got it when i was 16. unfortunately having issues with it right now but still such a great truck! besides that, i've had 4 trucks. 2 were automatics and the other 2 are manual. both my current trucks are standard and i doubt i'll ever go back to an auto.

>>728681925
Pretty much yeah. My first truck in high school was standard, and I'm the only person in my family that knows how to drive one well.

>>728684639
It's just as practical in certain instances. I never said it was the be all end all. I'm telling you, that you're wrong when you act like it's going to shorten the life of the trans significantly

Why bother when automatics can run faster than 10s in a quarter

>>728684639
What if you have a fat family or fat friends and only 1/4 of a mile to stop?

>>728677009
Thats a 5 year old study fuck boy

>>728684918
> once a study is a few years old it is 100% false

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>>728676099
B8 succesfully deployed

>>728676099
Four of five of my vehicles have manual transmissions. Two are cars, two are motorcycles. The autotragic is the truck, which had the bodystyle and features I wanted minus the autotragic. Makes towing easy though.

There's nothing more extatic than getting to 55 in second then shift abruptly in third above the 6000 rpm mark. The engine sound and feel is better than sex.

we all drive manuals you dumb cuck

What even is this engine braking argument? In auto and manual you press brake to stop. But in manual you have the option to stop in a shorter distance should the moment arise. They teach that in UK for safety reasons. It's the quickest and safest way to stop.
UK people don't engine brake when coming up to a stop ha. But they can if an emergency or to look cool.

>>728676099
American parents rarely teach their children to drive manual transmission because they either don't know how to themselves, or just don't own a manual auto. The vast majority of cars in America are manual for whatever reason.

>>728685149
Dude thinks it makes your trans go to shit.

>>728685104
i think you're doing sex wrong

>>728685149
Here in Saudi Arabia they also teach us to use brakes, but instead of engine braking they just teach us to fucking bail out before we crash into somebody.

Kevlar thawbs make Binta's pussy throb, or so they teach us.

>>728685104
I don't know, hitting 65 in first gear is pretty sweet too.

>current year
>still driving a car instead of riding a motorcycle
>being this sleep

When I was in highschool my parents got me a manual so I could learn to drive but my school was at the top of this bigass hill with a bunch of stopsigns and using both feet and both arms got annoying every morning. I was pissed off before I even got to school.

>>728685364
Is manually shifting down when going down large hills also do that?

>>728685364
If you lift your clutch up in first gear going 100mph then it will brake your car. So he has a point there. But only an idiot
would do that.

>>728685453
I like high rpm. I imagine my cock is the piston and the pussy is the cylinder.

>>728685656
Depends.
>>728685659
Well duh. But dropping down a gear while using the bakes and the engine braking isn't going to fuck anything up.

>>728676099
I have a manual 04 Evo, I enjoyed learning manual, but now that I'm used to it I don't care for it. I drive mostly in the city and every other weekend I do a 7h drive out of state to visit my family. I'm getting an automatic next time since where I live, manuals cost more than their automatic counterparts (not as common so people can sell them as "rare"), and my insurance is higher because it's manual. For me, cars just are a means to an end; I'm indifferent to driving; I don't dislike it, but it's not fun. I just do it cause I have to but I'd rather just get to where I'm going.

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>>728676099
Were you raped by an automatic transmission or something? What the FUCK is wrong with you?

>>728685646
Said the organ donor on two wheels.

>>728685649
>not knowing the handbrake trick
Unless you had a foot- or pushbutton-activated e-brake, in which case you're fukt.

I enjoy it. Its engaging and gives you more control over the car. Now, are they pretty much outdated by a semi-auto dual-clutch transmission? Yeah. But so what? It comes down to preference.

i didnt americans were. i still cant drive manual but i guess its just cause automatics easier. however you get better gas mileage and its more fun to drive manual. just feels like manual cars are dying out tbh

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>>728676099
Smd

>>728685364
And you think coasting in neutral is too dangerous, kek

>>728686105
civic ep, noice

>>728684149
Which hand do you use for your Firearm of Freedom?

Just passed my driving test britbong land here.
(manual)
my uncle let me test his automatic and it was like a fucking go kart.

Christ man, how do you guys not kill yourselves?
Is it really that hard to just put the clutch down and take 0.5 seconds to move the gear stick a few cm?

>>728686283
If you seriously can't drive an automatic then you are beyond retarded lmao.

>>728686283
Congrats mate

>>728685939
I wear a full race-certified tracksuit with an Arai helmet. I'd take that over "I'm going to update my Facebook while driving and eating McDonalds" any day.

We're all meat, and your car is just as squishy as my body in the right circumstances.

>>728686124
Never said it was dingus.

>>728686418
The first time I drove automatic, I learned in like 5 minutes. Which proves that auto is for the mentally challenged.

>>728685649
>>728685970
>one hand on wheel
>one hand on e-break
>one foot on clutch
>one foot on gas

>>728686612
It's literally NES. Two buttons. GAS A, BRAKE B.

>>728686283
Lmao fucking faggot child

I'm jap and can't let merifags learn the skill that made Pearl Harbor fail, by watching me but I know trust me

>>728685877
Well duh.
No it won't fuck anything up. But it still pits strain on the engine and gearbox. So I'd still take it easy. And it will wear out yoir engine and gearbox quicker. But not much if yoir a good driver. The Amerifag had a point with the 'its easier to replace brake pads than an engine'
But I'm a manual driver that still uses engine braking. Replacing brake pads is for pussies. Just give me the gas pedal, clutch and a stick.

>>728686963
you japs can't drive for shit a manual. Last time I witnessed one of you fuckwits driving a manual in first gear with handbrake halfway on. The whole car smelled of burnt asbestos.

tbh automatic makes sense in high traffic areas, but still if changing a gear and using clutch while driving is too much to ask for and you aren't missing any legs or arms you should not be allowed to drive anything.

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>>728685646
>replacing brake pads is for pussies
nigga what?
how fucking slow do you drive that engine braking is enough?

>>728686963
Turn off your fucking blinker

>>728676099
American here. I learned on a manual and still drive one. It's a preference. Who fucking cares?

>>728688255
Kek. Best post of the entire thread

>>728687141
This is exactly what I meant. If you're doing it right, you aren't putting any crazy amount of extra wear on anything.

>>728682617
because they have the metric system

Had one but traded for a pickup a while back. Didn't mind the manual except for the times I was injured. Broken hand first time and ~20 stitches in my knee the second time. Makes it hard to shift or hurt to press the clutch

>>728680556
>clutch
If it has a clutch it isn't an automatic, it's a manual being operated by a computer.

>>728689849
Never go full retard

>>728690269
But I like going full retard

>>728686283
the problem with clutch is npt pressing it but releasing it at the correct speed.

>>728681096
>>728681657
>>728681912

Okay, you guys are all retards.

Take your car's 0-60 time. Then your 60-0 time under engine braking. Notice that the latter is less than the former.

This proves that when you're engine braking, the engine and transmission is under less stress than when you're accelerating.

And you don't see a bunch of gaylords going oooooooh why are you acceleerating youuu might wear out your eeengine, now, do you?

You're not going to damage anything by asking it to do less than it's capable of.

Basically, for us europoors, automatic transmission has been a luxury item, but they're becoming more common

>>728676099

The fuck I look like grabbing on something that looks like a penis? This makes you eurofags proud?

>>728690779
I mean they still freak out over the royal family... so.. probably?

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>>728677945
If 2 years wasn't enough for you to learn it we can safely say that you have a IQ under 50

>>728689849
That describes a DCT (dual-clutch transmission). What the other anon was describing are specialized automatic transmissions (often just two or three speeds, which is all they need because the powerbands on the engines they're attached to are huge) designed to lock their torque converter extremely quickly and to shift absurdly fast.

>>728690269
The defining feature of manual transmission is the clutch.

The defining feature of automatic transmission is the torque converter.

>>728690779
your dildo looks like a shifter knob? interesting...

>>728677945
1. Were you overthinking it?
2. What car was it?
Some cars have absolutely awful transmissions.

>>728678593
Driving cars will be outdated... they will drive us

>>728676099
cuz auto makes me sleepy

>>728690954
Read this >>728690946

>>728676099
>2017, still switching gears
CVT FTW!

>>728692005
Enjoy your overpriced meme tranny when it breaks or needs fluid

Eurofag here, I drive a manual but would love an automatic. It's more relaxing. Can fall asleep better at the wheel.

cause its harder.

I'm from Europe and have learned driving on a manual. Maybe it is a thing that in European countries, you have usually better public transport system, things are a little bit smaller and denser. The United States have a huge connected economy and culture, driving ways are longer, streets are more straight and in a rectangular layout. I think there's more traffic on the streets of the USA. So the need for a convenient automatic drive car is higher.