you're looking at the US border

>>728563468
i think this is the right way
and the only way

>>728563468
I'm looking at a jpg posted on 4chan nigger

Assholes

Is Canada paying for it?

>>728563468
What about the planes
They should do something to those too, check out all the fat americans assholes so no beaners can sneak their way into the GOD BLESSED UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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The Gods had made their way up to the top of a high mountain and there they decided to build a great City for, themselves that the Giants could never overthrow. The City they would call "Asgard," which means the Place of the Gods. They would build it on a beautiful plain that was on the top of that high mountain. And they wanted to
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raise round their City the highest and strongest wall that had ever been built.
Now one day when they were beginning to build their halls and their palaces a strange being came to them. Kek, the Father of the Gods, went and spoke to him. "What dost thou want on the Mountain of the Gods?" he asked the Stranger.

>>728564010
mexico is fatter than america

A small explosive could knock that shit down easy. It would take weeks to get a repair and millions of wife raping Muslim drug dealing terrorist brown people could rush in through the opening and infect the great white CHRISTIAN AMERICA with their filthy unkempt and UNHOLY lifestyle.

>>728564865
You're right. Looks like we should top it off with machine guns.

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>>728563468
What I'm looking at is a gross misallocation of public funds. The money used on that wall would be much better spent improving inner-city education or homeless programs.

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>>728563468
just throw some machine guns and a few land mines on the other side and we should be good

>>728565073
We wouldn't have vastly less inner-city education and homeless problems if we didn't have illegal immigration draining the system. This wall will be a net gain.

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>>728565073

>inner-city education

>homeless programs

Sheltered bubble-society do-gooder detected.

>>728565073
This so much
It's also ignoring the fact that most illegal crossing aren't done physically over the fence or border, but on flights and being smuggled through checkpoints. A wall won't stop systemic corruption.

>>728565230
I think you need to examine your statement again.

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>>728563468
An AutoCAD drawing is as far as this stupid project is ever gonna go.

American taxpayers will still get charged and Trump & Co. will still skim off billions, but you racistfags are never getting your precious wall because you put your faith in a lifetime con-artist.

>>728565073
>pump more money into education
>niggers don't do better
It's been tried. Niggers are simply stupid, generally speaking.

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>>728565230
Aren't the vast majority of illegal immigrants simply people who overstay their visas? How would a horrifically costly wall curb that?

>>728564445
lol, no it's not

>>728565739
yes it is. look it up.

>>728563468

I would love for you fuckwits to spend your taxpayers money on that wall.

>>728565586
You're talking about education like it's a waste of money. With the way employment trends are heading, the only way to get a decent job in twenty years will be via a college diploma. It has been shown time and time again that the more educated a person is, the less likely they are to commit crimes. That's exactly what inner-city kids need.

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>Spend billions in tax dollars on a wall
>tried it 10 years ago and it didn't work but w/e we president now
>wall cuts off parts of the US from the US
>republicans again use imminent domain laws to jew Americans out of their own privately held land
>wall is constructed
>illegal immigrants still flooding into the border because their governments are still corrupt and the problem isn't going to be fixed with a wall
>after billions of dollars have been funneled to a few defense contractors and construction corporations, the wall stands as a testament to American reactionism and an inability for our leadership or public to ever deal with the root causes of issues

And you NEETS are praising it as a good idea.

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Fun Fact: Mexico has no cranes of their own, nor ladders and shovels. The wall is impenetrable.

>>728565230
Oh boy, look at pseudo-intellectual Sam over here! This is entirely your own speculation, and any defense of this will surely be more opinions but with increasing anger.

>>728565965
You aren't listening. What I'm saying is that for the AVERAGE black person, with an AVERAGE IQ, they are not intelligent enough to fully benefit from education like a white or asian would.
Blacks are also inherently more violent than whites due to testosterone differences and the "warrior gene"

>>728565739
Yes, Mexico has a higher rate of obesity than the US. There are a few countries that are higher than ours.

>>728566219
>they are not intelligent enough to fully benefit from education like a white or asian would.
>warrior gene

How about some data to back up those claims?

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>>728566219
Well, I guess that's it. Case closed. Let's just give up on these communities and condemn them to a life of crime and poverty forever.

>>728566219
black people aren't the problem, men are the problem

men commit over 90% of the murders and violent crime regardless of race, if we should be prejudiced towards any group it should be men

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>>728565073
socialist detected. you are even worst than those libtards.

>>728563468

Why are Canadians doing this?

>>728563468
that actually looks really efficient and straight forward to make

>>728566543
Look up 'Race and IQ'
Look up the warrior gene
Done

>>728563468

No I'm not, I'm looking at a drawing of the boarder.

>>728566855
looks like it's all been invalidated by peer review

hypotheses discarded

>>728566685
black men commit more murders than any other group.

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>>728566692
Why am I a socialist for wanting government money to be spent on the citizens instead of being wasted on some ineffectual show of partizan grandeur? Quit just dismissing others because they don't align with your politics. We all just want to improve our country's standard of living. We just apparently disagree on how to tackle it.

>>728566782
Yeah, but getting the wall slabs to the border would a pain in the rear.

>>728566664
Bring fathers back into homes, and bring manual labor and manufacturing back into cities and you would solve many problems. But putting more money into education is not the answer

To do this you would have to end welfare and stop outsourcing jobs

>>728566916
men commit more murders than any other group, that's a fact. nonblack men shouldn't get a pass because they each only kill 3 people a year instead of 5

>>728566904
No, it hasn't.

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>>728563468
watching that nignog video where he burned himself trying to steal copper, i asked myself, could we do that with the Border too? like having it under super powerfull electric power would make it way better.

>>728563468

Seeing a whole lot of solution and zero problem in OP's pic.

>>728567116
yes it has

>>728567068
Men also invented and built almost everything worthwhile ever.

>>728565739

Lol yes it is. Mexicans do not stay of a normal weight past 15.

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>>728566692
[citation needed]

>>728567064
If companies can't outsource the job then they'll sure as hell try to find a way to automate it.

Doesn't look very tunnel proof to me. They'll probably just pole vault over and claim damages for medical on the US side

>>728567138
No, it really hasn't. IQ differences are well established and they are dismissed by some because of political correctness.

>>728567172
so? that doesn't justify murder

>>728566664

>Give up
>Condemn

Are you asserting they don't have the willpower to do it on their own? RACIST!!

>>728565611
>Aren't the vast majority of illegal immigrants simply people who overstay their visas?
yup
thats how i got here
anyway build that fucking wall. no more Immigrants!

>>728567244
sorry, i'm looking at dozens of peer review articles that completely invalidate every single one of these theories, you're wrong

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>>728563468

>>728567251
I'm not saying it does, but I'm saying that you wouldn't have society without men to build and uphold it. Whereas blacks could not build or maintain a civilization.

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>>728567120
You're a sadistic, vile excuse for a human being if you're being genuine. The people crossing over are just trying to escape poverty and provide for their families the exact same way you would do in their shoes. We can deny them entry, but we shouldn't treat them like animals.

>>728567316
So the IQ differences that have been recorded for over a century, that show that blacks are on average less intelligent than whites or asians, are just coincidental or 'racist'?

>>728567386
that's some fancy words for "I want murderers to roam free"

you're a disgusting subhuman who needs to go into the camps with all the other men to protect human life

>>728567027

> improve our country's standard of living with government funds
Like in 'everybody gets free stuff'?
Sounds like socialism tome.

>>728567409

Ah, sounds like this kid's never paid taxes before.

>>728563468
Well done, please continue, build it all the way around the US. So you can stay inside and be safe.

... and so we, the rest of the world can be safe from you.

>>728567480
do your own research, it's not my responsibility to educate you

>>728566855
i asked for data and you said a bunch of stuff that has never passed peer review is your data, but you also didn't give any data.

It's like saying, "Prove God exists" and you say, "Look up the bible"

>>728567409
but its possible, right?

>>728565996
China has a border wall and they have almost NO Mexicans at all! This is going to be our solution finally!

>>728565294
Seriously?

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>>728567049

>>728567514
I see what you are trying to do, but it doesn't change the fact that you are retarded.


>>728567570
I have. I've spent many days looking into this, and the more I've searched, the more I've found that blacks have a lower IQ than whites

>>728567386
so who would rather in your society, black man or a disabled white man (Down's syndrome or something)

>>728567064
Lel, get your head out of the sand. Automation is taking your and my job. We need a UBI if we don't want to live in a jobless, poverty-stricken shit hole

>>728567701
except those studies have been invalidated by peer review

>>728566219
First, we need to provide free child care and work-based welfare programs in those communities that don't penalize you for getting a job. Even if we have to blow money inventing work for them to do. We need to teach the kids how to act and their mothers how to earn, and keep doing it until we actually change the culture.

>>728567192
This. Eight out of every ten manufacturing jobs lost since the Great Recession have been to automation.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/08/china-automation-jobs/

>>728567581
If you look up racial and IQ differences you will have your data. I won't spoonfeed you.

>>728567759
invalidated by peer review

>>728565965
>the only way to get a decent job in twenty years will be via a college diploma
Which is why so many of the rural trash that voted for Trump are unemployed. They've staked their entire worthless lives on having a manual labor job and now that those are drying up they can't feed their worthless families.

>>728563468
>you're looking at waste of tax money
ftfy

>>728563468
punish illegal employers

>wall not needed

>>728567636
Then you have the cranes needed to put the slabs in place.

And what about all the people whose job is putting the wall up? You're going to need a lot of porta crappers. Also, what happens when the wall goes through someone's private property?

>>728567739
except they haven't.
I suppose it's just a coincidence that blacks all throughout history have made fewer contributions to literature, science, philosophy, etc and that they score lower on IQ tests and examinations than white people and asians.

I also suppose that groups of people who have evolved over tens of thousands of years in vastly different environments ARE EXACTLY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR SKIN COLOR.

>>728567788
'no'

>>728567759
the only thing you're back peddling to is the data that shows an IQ difference, but nothing else you have claimed is backed by any data which passes peer review. Do you not understand this? The conclusions you are drawing from the data are not based in fact. They are your feelings. You are simply arguing based on your feelings.

>>728567938
its not my responsibility to educate you, but those studies have been invalidated by peer review

>>728567064
>bring manual labor and manufacturing back into cities
Never going to happen. The age of you being able to support your worthless family on a manual labor or factory job is over.

>>728568009
Except it is factual, not emotional. Can you even tell me what else I have claimed?

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>>728567535
When the fuck did I mention handouts? You're straw manning me.

>>728567544
I do pay my taxes, thank you.

>>728568014
You can repeat it, but that doesn't mean niggers are as smart as white people, you SJW cuck

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>>728567914

people who has their property on the boarder want the wall because they're tired of immigrants running through there property

>>728568123
you've claimed that these studies are valid, however they are not valid, because they have been invalidated by peer review

>>728565073
Niggers and parasites can't be helped man. With all the money we've dumped in the inner cities and we still have the highest gun violence and homicide and drug distribution there. They have had far too long of a good second chance to earn their respect by working hard and staying out of crime and poverty but they've failed. They always will.

>>728567636
Just wait until people like me who live near the border sneak into the construction site at night and drain the oil from those vehicles. I wonder how far those slabs will get on a truck with a blown engine.

>>728568208
I'm glad you've come to accept that you have no valid arguments

As a scientist, I just have to point out that the money being spent on the wall could literally fund the superconducting super collider project FOUR TIMES OVER. This project was defunded in the 90s because it was deemed too expensive. It was planned to be a particle collider intended to run at 20 TeV. In comparison, the LHC, the current largest particle collider in the world runs at 6 TeV.

This money could do so much for science. Yet you idiots want to LITERALLY BUILD A CONCRETE WALL with it. That's such a baffling level of idiocy it's almost inconceivable.

>>728568212
>people who has their property on the boarder want the wall because they're tired of immigrants running through there property
most illegals come by plane. how does wall stop plane? how does wall stop ladder? how does wall stop drugs being thrown over?

>>728567938
>evolution
>tens of thousands of years

colonialism, socioeconomics there are lots of reasons it's like that
white people didn't succeed because they're white

>>728568296
we don't have any money for science, education, healthcare because we need to bomb the world until they want to come here, so we need to build a wall to keep them out so we can make sure we can bomb them more

>>728568213
Do you understand that some scientists will deny empirical fact so as not to be seen as racist?

>>728568295
That would be you. All you are doing is saying that peer review means that black people are smart and IQ differences which are well established are in fact not well established

>>728568123
>they are not intelligent enough to fully benefit from education like a white or asian would.
>more violent than whites due to testosterone differences and the "warrior gene"

The only fact you have is a difference in the average IQ, which can also be explained by environmental factors.

One fact does not make all of your conjectures based on that fact true. You believe things, you don't know them. Belief is a feeling, and you are arguing about your feelings, while everyone else is trying to tell you to use facts and logic.

>>728568296
Something as advanced as a super collider would be wasted in a country where so many people believe in God, demons, and an afterlife.

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"I know what is in the mind of the Gods," the Stranger said. "They would build a City here. I cannot build palaces, but I can build great walls that can never be overthrown. Let me build the wall round your City."

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>>728563468
This need to be built too

>>728568342
just to clarify I don't support the wall, I think using stuff like high scale motion detection, heat detection, and putting our drones to work more along our own boarder would be more effective than a wall, but it would be possible to build a wall

>>728568423
I don't know why you're still talking about invalidated studies, they're not valid

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>>728567544
I don't want to share my oxygen with you. I'll be by shortly to burn your house down. Maybe killfuck anybody precious to you first. You seem to get it, so I assume there'll be no hard feelings.

I do not want my taxes spent on soul food for negroids. I want my taxes spent on cruise missiles which are actually used.

>>728568463
It wouldn't. Education starts with a good scientific infrastructure. Leading science inspires, and critical thinking in the public follows.

>>728567409
Not my chair. Not problem. Maybe Jose should fix his shithole of a country, instead of bringing his problems here.

>>728568212
Silly me, that more than justifies the government taking (stealing) their land.

>>728565073
Well that's just like, your opinion man

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>>728568212
Source? Last I heard people on the border are having their property taken by the government and getting chump change in return due to the eminent domain laws that repubs used to hate but now they love because 'we president now'\

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-budget-border-wall-land-acquisition-eminent-domain-2017-3

>>728568208
Ah there it is, the cookie-cutter insult.

>>728568658
Maybe Jose could fix his shithole country if we weren't so hellbent on keeping it a shithole.

>>728568658
The mass corruption of South and Central American governments will only be fixed with a multi-national effort because they hold too much power in their own countries to be stopped. This is not going to be fixed by a wall, and neither will illegal immigration.

It's time to start living in the real world, cowboy.

>>728568673
Right. No one here is arguing that.

>>728565739
Mexican food uses lard in almost everything. It is delicious, but incredibly fattening. They also fry everything.

>>728568793
this. NAFTA put mexican farmers out of business and created the current environment that allows the Cartels to have as many bodies as they do

>>728568793
Considering that the cartels bring in more money then anything else Jose and Pedro have no motivation to improve anything.

>>728567303
How did you become legal?

>>728563468
America sure looks like a bad computer graphic nowadays. What happened?

>>728568686
how would you feel if you had a wife and kids living in some house in the middle of nowhere and had immigrants who don't speak your language running and hiding around on your property, I'd either have the wall or take a buyout and move someplace else

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>>728568658
Is this some kind of fucking joke? It's not that simple, and it's absurd of you to pretend it is. You're just washing your hands of any acknowledgement that you could help them so that you don't have to feel guilty for not doing anything.

>>728567027
>Why am I a socialist for wanting government money to be spent on the citizens instead of being wasted on some ineffectual show of partizan grandeur?

You don't get it at all. You are assuming that the tax load on the citizen is the same in all situations. In the capitalist free economy situation the citizen pays a fraction as much taxes as in a socialist state.

You just assume socialism puts no increased burden on the citizen and they magically get free shit and services that come from fucking nowhere.

>>728568880
even with the lard america is fatter than mexico according to statistics

>>728569118
And you are just virtue signaling pretending to care when you really don't do a fucking thing to help them either.

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>>728568704
>C-cuck

This expression indicates a /pol/lacks confusion and lack of understanding. When confronted with something he cannot understand or respond to, /pol/lacks mumble "Cuck" or "MAGA, cuck". This is usually followed by memes or frog posting

>>728569123
It works for 90% of the world, just look at healthcare statistics and life expectancy

BUILD THE WALL!! I don't see how you could be against this unless you're a brain-washed retarded idiot!

>>728569226
and you're what, vice signaling? OH WOW WHAT A MUCH BETTER POSITION

>>728568887
The drug war also drives up prices of drugs in america and gives them a huge economic incentive to produce and sell drugs there for power and money in their own countries.

>>728569123
With the amount of money wasted every year on our bloated military, there absolutely are enough funds to improve American education and healthcare without increasing taxes more than their current level.

>>728568893
Isn't it interesting that America demands that all drugs be illegal yet is the worlds biggest importer of drugs? If we changed our policies concerning drugs we could take away the biggest source of income for the cartels.

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>>728568984
appeal to emotion. Try again.

You are completely projecting your own feelings on people you've never met and saying that what you would do is what is best for them. The wall has not, and will not fix that problem, and you are wasting time and energy by continuing to believe it.

>>728569521
But then what will all the people who aren't cut out for college do?

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>How long will it take you to build a wall that will go round our City?
said the Father of the Gods.

>>728569253
because 5 meter walls lead to a market for 5.5 meter ladders, you retard. And if you tell me "how should they get down there"? By using a 5 meter rope ...

>>728569549
most of america's policies are designed by transnational elites to make the world safe for exploitation

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>>728569226
I do try to help. I don't vote for politicians who want a border wall or want tougher immigration laws. I live in the northern US, so it's not like I can just drive across the border and volunteer there during the evenings.

>>728569521
I agree with that. We could cut military spending by 50%and still have the largest military budget in the world. That would make virtually every other government program affordable.

It's scary how much we spend. Then we freak out because China is building an aircraft carrier or Russia is developing a new missile. Doesn't make sense.

>>728568943
i never did.
and nobody cares
a friend of mine is also illegal here
came the same way
he even went to jail for 2 days, and the released him again. kek
but they is a difference between people crossing the border illegaly and people overstaying their visa, like me.
People coming through the desert are very poorly educated, i met some who couldnt even speak spanish, some kind of Guatemala Indios,
People overstaying Visas are mostly higly educated. I came as a final year law college student, and choose to drop all and do minimum wage here. why? never regret it. traveling from state to state, enjoying the gorgeous nature and openminded crazy people, no office job in the world can compare to that.

>>728569635
well then we'll just put something on top so they have to bring a rug too, because you know for a fact we will never have the money to put guards every half mile of wall

>>728569549
Change in drug policy? Then what will police departments do without civil forfeiture to profit from?

>>728569629
Plumbing, welding, construction and various other things learned in trade schools.

>>728569227
Odd that you'd respond to it with the cookie-cutter response then...

Cuck is just a short, convenient way to let you know that you're a pussy. You are a wuss who follows "popular" opinion because it's what you've been trained to do since birth.

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>>728569183
Why did it take so long for someone to post actual stats?
No. Mexico does not have a higher rate of obesity than the US, but the US does not have the highest rate of obesity in the world.
You're all fucking morons for going back and forth saying, "Nuh uh!" and "yes huh!" without just taking the 30 fucking seconds to google it. Fuck all of you.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2228rank.html

>>728569629
I don't know, but that's not really important. Just improving education at all will increase the quality of life for those kids and teens.

>>728569860
Fuck the police. I'm happy to live in a state where civil forfeiture isn't a thing. In my state you have to be convicted of a crime to have your assets seized.

>>728569968
My post was sarcasm aimed at showing my contempt for the people in the military.

>>728569898
You do the same thing but with your edgelord /pol/ memes. Look through this thread. Almost nothing argued is supported by fact and there are only a couple people posting actual sources.

You're all sheep on different sides of the fence. Stupid fucking pseudo-intellectuals. You know who should get deported? All of you.

>>728569813
I mean I'm highly skilled too... which is why I got a green card and immigrated legally.

You need to go back.

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>>728563468

There is just a little problem: 1,248 miles of the US-Mexican border is the fucking Rio Grande. The dumbasses just figured out that when they built a wall on the American side of the river the whole river goes to Mexico. The will also hardly be able to build a wall in the middle of the river. Now they are implying that they are going to build the wall on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande. Wonder how that will play out...

I wonder construction companies with which questionable connections to Trump will be given the task and the money

>>728569853
Like barbed or razor wire? I can get through those with a $5 pair of wire cutters.

>>728564010
This is the dumbest argument ever. It's not immigration that Trump is trying to stop it's ILLEGAL immigration. If you get on a plane you need some form of ID we know who you are. If you cross land in the middle of the night with no one watching then there's no form of ID no record of it even happening. God liberals are stupid.

>>728569860
>Plumbing, welding, construction and various other things learned in trade schools.

Robots and computers will do all of those things better, faster, and for less money than a human will. Try again.

>>728569937
>cia

dude you do realize that the CIA lies for a living right, you might as well have posted CNN fake news or breitbart

>>728570099
lul don't butt hurt this faggot because he'll take it personally and start crying.

>>728569789
It makes sense if you keep in mind how much weapons manufacturers lobby our Congress. They're looking for an excuse to funnel more money to their buddies who give them hundreds of thousands of dollars.

>>728570057
Ah, I see.

>>728570246
This isn't a real argument. Show the evidence that the CIA is lying about these statistics. Take some pride in your damned intellect.

>>728565611
But we have records of those people and if need be can track them down because of said records. It's the people we don't know are in the country that's the problem.

>>728570242
Machines will be able to build the materials needed for plumbing but as of right now they aren't capable of doing the actual plumbing work. Certainly not to the skill level of a trained plumber.

>>728570246
Why would the CIA lie about who's fatter? It doesn't make any sense.

>>728570190
This

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>>728570255
>tries to call other people stupid for blindly believing things
>gets told he's blindly believing things
>lel butt hurt i was just joking around no bully

>>728565322
This may sound a little bit 4d, but we actually want the ones who are capable of a wiley plot like "get on a boat" or have the capability to pay a coyote a little bit more than the ones that are so stupid or poor that they just run across

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>>728563468
Wow. You'd need ...like....a ladder or something to get over that!

Where they going to get one of those?!

>>728569937
>American Samoa
>fatter than Samoa
>In fact, fattest in the world
kek

>>728570417
You're moving the goal posts.

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>>728570255
>being this much of a snowflake

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>>728570143
no, wont work for a law school
the last good old merica needs is more lawyers.
and its ok this way
i rarely stay at the same place more then 6 months.
California was neat, i will go back next summer probably.
right now in New york, still frikin cold sometimes, but living here is an dream of many, fullfiled by fews...

>>728570473
>as of right now
yes, and that will change in the near future. Not only that, as plumbing gets easier thanks to robots and other advanced tools, there will be a lower demand for plumbers since one will be able to do the job of many. This has been the path of automation since the industrial era. You simply can't rely on manual labor jobs anymore, even if it's specialized. It may be 20 years from now, but those jobs will be GONE.

>>728570578
Weed out specifically the stupid ones, I could see that. Still not worth the cost imo

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>A year, O Kek!
said the Stranger.

>>728570578
Yeah, worked for Europe, right?

>>728570190
>Trump is trying to stop it's ILLEGAL immigration
kek
it was just a hook to get votes you fucking suckers
I can't believe there are actually people who still follow what those fucks say in this day and age, it is just pragmatism you imbecile, whatever works - mostly for their own sake

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>>728570615
kek

>>728570779
Why don't you just marry an american and stay legally?

>>728567743
No we need to teach them to keep their damn pants on. Regardless if race the best chance for sucess is to get a high school diploma, find any job to start off with, and don't pop out babies before you've been married. There's studies that prove that.

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>>728563468
You know what's even more expensive than the building and labour costs?
The land the wall will be built on.

You're fucking retarded if you think Mexico is paying for it.

>>728571065
Don't worry, the government will use eminent domain laws to give people the lowest "fair value" of their land before they take it. Also, good luck fighting it through the legal system. Nobody won their land back from Bush when he tried building a wall. Now there's a useless wall, a growing problem of illegal immigration, and Americans who were told to go fuck themselves because they didn't want their land to go to some pointless political gesture.

>>728563468
>the wall will be completely digital
>it exists in our MINDS
kek

you realize it wouldn't actually STOP anyone from crossing? Mexicans have ladders, you know.

>>728563468
The Mexican can just get c4 and blow that shit up.

Seems pretty simple

>>728571009
maybe, if i met the right person.
i do not intend to have a fake mariage
i almost left the United states because feeling bad by overstaying my visa. Its od the break the law of the country you love basicly every day by your sole presence....

>>728571342
Where are you from?

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>build wall
>most illegals fly here anyways
walls are dumb

>>728571265
And the shifting rivers and land unsuitable to build on?
I take it the laws of physics don't apply to dear leader trump?

>>728570417
>if need be can track them down
>can track them down
>CAN
Waiting for Godot, the post.

>>728571265
>America can't have modern transportation like bullet trains cause eminent domain laws are so incredibly difficult to negotiate.
>building a 2000 mile long wall on the property of people who don't support such a thing will be super easy

You're a fucking idiot

>>728571336
I imagine the construction crews would be regularly attacked by lone gunman. I hope so anyway. Kill enough of the workers so that nobody wants to work on the wall.

>>728566692
>Just showing Santiago
Holy shit, If you go to places like Lota in the BíoBío region it'll be exactly like Venezuela
Also we have a socialist president

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>Hey Juan can you go put a couple wholes in that wall over there ?
Gracias

>>728571470
Uh, it already happened dummy. I know you're probably too young to remember GWB, but it was pretty easy to take that land. Eminent domain gets fought against for public works projects all the time, but when it's for the "safety of america" the public doesn't give a shit about farmers in texas

>>728570632
I'm not actually the wall is to keep out illegal immigrants. If you come in through a plane you have to get paperwork therefore you have to go through proper channels which means, say it with me now, LEGALLY. The wall is to keep out illegals because we can't keep track of them, we can keep track of people who go through proper means.
It's not my fault that you need someone to spell everything out for you.

>>728571660
theres no such thing as a small farmer anymore, its all big agribusiness

>>728571529
Lmao this is fucking genius, the cartels have snipers. Just pick off the workers on by one.

>>728571529
This is stupid. Do you not realize that this will just be monetary incentive for defense contractors to set up "security for our construction crews" to let the continue building the wall.

Everyone is allowed dip their hands into the American tax dollar jar except the average American.

>>728571660
GWB had a golden ticket after 9/11

Trump will have to have some world-stopping disastrous failure of national security to be given that much power.
>so we're safe

>>728571404
europe

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Now Odin knew that if a great wall could be built around it the Gods would not have to spend all their time defending their City, Asgard, from the Giants, and he knew that if Asgard were protected, he himself could go amongst men and teach them and help them. He thought that no payment the Stranger could ask would be too much for the building of that wall.

>>728571336
Or a ladder and a roll of carpet.

It will also be built on nature reserves ....the only ground animal guaranteed to be able to figure a way over the wall is homo sapien.

>>728571750
sheltered if you really believe that.

>>728563716
>Assholes

>How dare you protect your borders! you should let in anyone and everyone with zero indetification what so ever and then give them money, houses and food cards!

fucking delusional college kiddy.

>>728571841
Ah, maybe it's easier since I'm from Canada

I just showed my papers at the border, drove to the job and they handled the green card shit once I was in the country.

Ezpz

>>728571812
Kill them too. Paint the desert red with their blood. Shoot anybody who tries to recover their body. Once pictures of dead workers and and defense contractors being fed on by buzzards gets on every news network I doubt many will be thrilled to get paid to build a fucking wall. It is impossible to defend against a few snipers.

>>728571911
haha i bet you think there's a large middle class too

>>728571935
Nobody is saying that America doesn't have that right. The argument is that the wall is not effective in achieving that, and will ultimately be a major waste of tax dollars.

Keep pretending everyone is dumber than you, though. I'm sure it does wonders for your ego.

>>728565073
Education is fine. It's people unwilling to take a step beyond just showing up for class is the problem. You can't force idiots to pay attention in class.

And homeless programs? Are you fucking stupid? All that does is allow the cycle to continue. The homeless are homeless because they're incapable of existing in the modern world. If you wanna take care of them then DONATE and try letting them stay with you. But you won't.

>>728571972
Good way to get the army down there, let's have an international incident yaaaaay

>>/pol/120303938
/pol/ only has one thread up on the border wall and it's a hate thread. check for yourself

>>728571935
>protect your borders from your largest trading partner that you routinely take advantage of
yeah, you're such a pathetic helpless victim, you need more protection than anyone else on this planet. Poor little you just has such a shitty life that we all feel so fucking bad for you.

>>728565073
fuck the homeless,
invest in infrastructure

>>728572110
Kill them too. What soldier wants to get shot to death guarding a construction site? Kill them until they stop sending people to kill.

>>728571972
Exspicailly in an open environment that they can't cross into with out getting detained.

I imagine they'll be counter snipers,!but shit Juan Carlos has 5thousand foot soldiers ready to be a sniper.

>>728567409
>doesn't understand people who cannot survive in the modern world are animals

>>728571549
The anti-socialist, literal boogeyman indoctrination in the US education is one of the most retarded things ever
Socialism have good and bad points like everything else, the intensity of hatred towards it doesn't have much to do with its actual application or its historical context. Social/class equality is just what people in power would like to keep out and preserve wildly separated classes and mass scale consumerism instead. I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. That's just human nature and it's done openly. The system favors this. We can only elect people that already have some power and influence over how the money is distributed. It's no surprise, but it is still laughable to an outside observer like me
PS: There are tons of socialism based regulations in force in teh US regarding education, healthcare, social security, ...

>>728572146
Canada is a larger trading partner than Mexico.

Mexico could disappear tomorrow and the US would carry on. Canada could disappear and the US would run out of a ton of things pretty fast.

>>728571972
we dont have enough money to put a sniper on every half mile of wall, hell, we don't even have enough money to build the damn thing in the first place

>>728572214
>privileged spoiled brat with no perspective of reality
sad

>>728571995
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/12/09/the-american-middle-class-is-losing-ground/

The middle class is still the largest single group, but the combination of lower and upper class has surpassed it in recent years. If you'll notice, the lower class has gained ground.

I know you're trying to paint me as stupid for disagreeing with you, but you should spend less time talking and more time reading.

Now it's a "digital wall" or some shit. Face it Trump voters, you got played.

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>>728571945
nah, was complicated for me to obtain visa
it was also a reason to stay, cause i didnt know can i come back.
hey Canada is also lovely
(except you dont have Nevada)

>>728565073
Look at all the triggered lololol

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>>728571935
You're a retarded trump cultist if you think a wall can't be easily surmounted with a ladder.

One crew on Mexico side drives up to the wall, puts up a ladder, ties a rope to the truck. One guy climbs the ladder with the rope and a role of carpet, lays the carpet over the spikes and throws the rope over the wall, then any able bodied person can climb the wall and lower themselves to the crew waiting to pick them up on the US side.
Wall surmounted, for the price of a ladder, a length of rope, and a role of carpet + gas money.
Even a Mexican could afford that

>>728572245
Like what? Syrup, celebrities and lumber?

>>728572257
I'm not talking about the U.S. putting snipers up there. I'm saying that people who are against the wall should be there to kill the people working on the wall and the people guarding them.

>>728572076
>The homeless are homeless because they're incapable of existing in the modern world.

Without moving the goal posts, give me actual data for that claim.

>>728572316
Are we "great" yet?

>>728572245
>larger
by about 3%, you stupid little shithead, and NO, the US would not carry on well without Mexico.

the difference is negligible, but the difference in how you treat Canada and Mexico is not.

Quit being such a stupid spoiled brat

>>728572313
>pew

nice fake news faggot

I'll bet most of the SJW's arguing against the wall have a 6' fence between them and their next door neighbours

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>>728572292
>mfw being this stupid

>>728572378
Oil and lumber mainly.

Also potash/fertilizer. Lots of automotive and military stuff in Ontario too IIRC.

What does mexico even make, TVs?

>>728572443
>you treat canada and mexico is not
Don't you have a wall to build paco?

>>728572184
Yeah because the us army never dealt with snipers before. Because the us army doesn't have their own counter snipers with better equipment and training. Because the us army couldn't just drop explosives all over the area sniper fire was coming from and justify it by saying the Mexican government did nothing to stop it's people from killing us citizens. Again you want a war between Mexico and the United states? Because we could use a few more stars on the flag.

>>728563468
no towers? A proper wall isn't complete without guard towers.

>>728572498
>too fucking stupid to understand English
wow, and you still manage to feel superior, that's fucking AMAZING

>>728572368
>uneducated person who doesn't understand how the wall in El Paso works, one of the safest cities, happens to share the border with one of the worse cities
Stop repeating what your parents tell you.

>>728572498
>What does mexico even make
Lawnmowers and letsplayers, mostly.

>>728572501
Our soldiers are human trash and Congress would never authorize a full blown war against Mexico for a few dead grunts.

>>728563468
Is this real life?

>>728572457
Give evidence that the stats on that site are wrong. Otherwise, quit pretending that anything you don't agree with isn't true.

>>728572479
The first step to not being a complete retard is admitting your personal perspective is limited. Try to catch up with the rest of society, retard.

>>728572411
Substance abuse is often a cause of homelessness.
http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/addiction.pdf

Helps if you went to college and aren't a kid in high school trying to argue adult subjects.

>>728565073
Why the fuck would Mexico pay for our inner-city education? Dumbass.

>>728572501
>Because we could use a few more stars on the flag.

>being this much of an edgelord
[email protected]

>>728572774
Why would Mexico pay for the wall?

>>728572646
They also didn't approve what happened in Syria

That day the Stranger came to the Council of the Gods, and he swore that in a year he would have the great wall built. Then Kek made oath that the Gods would give him what he asked in payment if the wall was finished to the last stone in a year from that day.
The Stranger went away and came back on the morrow. It was the first day of Summer when he started work. He brought no one to help him except a great whore.
Now the Gods thought that this whore would do no more than drag blocks of stone for the building of the wall. But the whore did more than this. He set the stones in their places and mortared them together. And day and night and by light and dark the whore worked, and soon a great wall was rising round the palaces that the Gods themselves were building.

>>728572612
>uneducated person who doesn't understand geography

You going to pay for that constant level of security across 2000 miles of border?

How's your national debt now?
All good? You can afford to double it right?

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>>728572592
You clearly aren't American because of your phrasing. If you were Canadian you would say it, because Canadians always do. You are in this thread which means you car about the issue, and are therefore from one of the three, therefore you are Mexican.

Build the wall paco.

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No one who supports illegal immagrition wants the illegals living in their city.

Why?
Because you know it's a bad idea to take in thousands of uneducated people who refuse to even try to belong.
You just won't admit it until you're older.

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>>728572866
>>728572866

>>728572612
What does El Paso's rating in safety have to do with the ease of getting over a border wall?

>>728563468
That's a drawing.

>>728571911
There are SOME small farmers, but not many

There's 1/3 as many people employed in agriculture as there were 50 years ago, and MOST of them are not small farmers.

So you're mostly wrong

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>>728567331

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>>728572918
>mfw national debt
When China comes knocking at the door demanding to be paid back, you lemme know.
Until then LOL @ national debt.

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>>728563468
now all they need to do is build some tunnels and holes underneth the wall

GG trump you've made it harder to catch drug smugglers

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>>728572933
>too fucking stupid to understand English
read it as many times as you have to. If you still don't understand why it's better grammar than what you just posted, I suggest going back to school.
>on a short bus

>>728571716
>I'm not actually the wall is to keep out illegal immigrants.
The vast majority of illegal immigrants are here on expired visas. What makes you think they could be found and rounded up? If they're still here, that means they haven't been kept track of.

>>728563468
No I am looking at my screen

Lol it's going to be a 5 Billion dollar gay faggot fence, not a manly wall. That will only cover a little less than 900 miles of border. about 200 miles of old shit needs to be replaced. The new fence would be a little over 100 miles. This is for the proposed 18ft high x six feet under ground which should take care of all those tunnels.

For a full 2000+ mile coverage we're talking well over 20 billion dollars that that's just construction. The land acquisition and the hellfuck of problems associated with it will be time consuming as well as politically and practically damaging.

>>728567914
>Also, what happens when the wall goes through someone's private property?

The same thing that happens when a pipeline goes through private property

>>728572997
>implying you could afford it
kek, stupid American niggers

>>728573147
No that means that the government doesn't care because they aren't breaking any laws, other than over staying their visa.

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>>728573123
You have to go back.

>What reward will the Stranger ask for the work he is doing for us?
the Gods asked one another.

>>728572721
Correct. Drug abuse is a common cause of homelessness. This is moving the goalposts though. Now your claim is that there are a multitude of factors that contribute to homelessness.

There are also effective treatments for drug problems in cities around the world. They usually entail treating it as a health issue instead of a crime.
http://drugfree.org/learn/drug-and-alcohol-news/treating-drug-use-as-public-health-issue-could-lower-crime-rate-report/

You've taken the problem of homlessness and drugs, but then you made the conjecture that it's because homeless people are incapable of being in society, and that somehow circles back around and causes them to do drugs?

>>728572358
You're damn right I'm angry about the wall. It's a huge waste of fucking money.

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>>728565073

>using queen judy in vain

>>728573263
they usually don't, actually
>because it takes so much more money and time to negotiate

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>>728573361
>What reward will the Stranger ask for the work he is doing for us?

the Gods asked one another.

>>728573386
Don't worry. Congress has to allocate funds for the construction and that will never happen. Even the GOP controlled Congress knows this is a dumb idea.

>>728573340
You have to find a new meme

My family's been here longer than US was a nation.

>>728572942
The argument is not about illegal immigration. It is about the wall's effectiveness in curbing illegal immigration. Please keep up.

>>728573183
I'm 29. You are connecting two things that are not related. If you would like to give an actual explanation with logic and facts so we can understand the point you're making, then please feel free. If you're going to get butt hurt that anyone challenges your baseless statements, then gb2 /pol/ where you have a nice safe space.

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>>728572774
>actually believing Mexico will pay for the wall
It would be like if your neighbor knocked on your door and demanded money to buy a flat screen for his livingroom. You'd tell him to fuck right off.

>>728573027
>implying the US doesn't own a comparable amount of Chinese debt
Also, isn't the debt bought by the Chinese mostly through private companies and not the Communist Party?

>>728573725
It'd be like your neighbor knocking on your door and asking you to put up a fence between your properties because your dog keeps coming over and shitting on his lawn. He even says look I'll do the work and put it up but I need you to compensate me for the money, I mean after all its your fault you can't keep track of your dog.

>>728572811
>>728573725
They're going to pay it through a tarrif you dipshits. Do you honestly think anyone believes that Mexico was just going to hand over a check?

How about actually learning a little bit about a subject before commenting on it.

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>>728573027
retard
>>728573870
gentleman scholar

>>728573388
kek I know. It was just the reaction gif that was the closest to my actual reaction.

>>728573484
>Congress will allocate the funds from tax payers
>some construction will happen
>wall will not be completed, and will die out in a political shit storm
>tax payers will not get the money back for the incomplete construction
>money will "disappear"
>republicans find new boogeyman to line their pockets with

Such is American politics.

>>728573027
You do realise it's the little people who get fucked when the economy bombs right?
Are you Trump?
Then you're fucked cuck

>>728573999
>raise tariffs on Mexico
>Mexico raises prices on exports to the U.S.
>America pays for the wall

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Kek went to the Stranger.

>We marvel at the work you and your horse are doing for us,
>No one can doubt that the great wall of Asgard will be built up by the first day of Summer. What reward do you claim? We would have it ready for you.

The Stranger turned from the work he was doing, leaving the great whore to pile up the blocks of stone.

>O Father of the Gods,
>O Kek, the reward I shall ask for my work is the Sun and the Moon, and Freya, who watches over the flowers and grasses, for my wife.

>>728574203
If they're smart they'll raise prices more than what the cost of the wall will be. Make some money off our stupidity.

>>728573986
The exact details of the analogy are irrelevant. The point is Mexcio has literally no reason to fork over the money. It's not like Ford or Chevy will suddenly stop using their cheap labor.

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>>728574203
are you a wizard?

>>728573999
What goods are we going to tariff, and what are the international repercussions? What's stopping China from just filling the void in the market?