What age is the right age to start transitioning.

Never, you mentally ill nigger

>>727821723
Probably before puberty, but you probably shouldn't be allowed to make a decision like that at 12.

>>727821723
I don't know, how soon would you like to be called faggot and have 99% of the real world view you as a mentally ill reject?

11. That is as close as you can get to an adult mind before hormones reck their shit and make them have facial hair they don't want and shit. For females it matters less, they can become more manly way later than boys can become more feminine. Of course there's also to consider that different people age differently, pretty much you would need to check and see what hormone levels people that have gender dysphoria would be at so you don't fuck them with manhands (idk if that changes) when they seriously feel better in a different gender category. So there would need to be some leniency on the age limit but at the same time there should be a standard where pre-pubescent turns into pubescent.

my answer is before birth

>>727822008


but
also
>>727822008

>>727821820
Pretty much this...

>>727821723
holy fuck, the kid from stranger things is becoming a girl? shit parents

>>727822381 Oh sorry you said transitioning. Which I took as meaning when should they be allowed to take hormones if they wish. Transitioning as in, dressing up or growing their hair? Parents decide if they wish to control that for the most part, I mean it's an individual aspect of reality if your son wants to have long hair and you don't like it. But gender roles and such aren't too important until you get to where their body hormone levels will effect their life later on. In this case, it's more of a reason to let them decide, rather than thinking that something like taking hormones is like a haircut.

>>727822722

No, but he may as well be to please his 17 y/o boyfriend - seriously

>>727821723

Like, at least, AT LEAST 21.. The fact people are doing it younger and are actually being encouraged makes me sick!!

>>727822722
your parents must have failed teaching you common sense.
the girl is not him, simple things like nose, lips and face structur are different

>>727821723
At 18 at the earliest, when you can consent to it as an adult.

>>727823213
Nah, it's him. Well, her. He announced it on Finnstagram last week.

i would say 18 as your considered a adult. stupid as parents from my name is nazz

>>727821820
/thread

Well that was quick.

Probably 9 before hormones from the Y chromosome have a chance to contribute.

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>>727821723

sorry you cant 'transition' from one gender to another , that's just fantasy. Every cell in your body has your sex encoded in its DNA.

>>727823551 Just to be an ass

>Born with a dick

>Y chromo already did

>Solution: ask individual sperm and eggs what they communally wish to be born as

>>727823395
Its a him. Dont call it a her.

>>727823675
No, it doesn't. Sex is determined by hormones, not DNA.

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>>727823801 It's a pretty lady.

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>>727823887

>>727823395

Citation needed.

>>727823887 Seriously it's more about the mental aspect of it than it is DNA.. Regardless you meant gender, not sex, in scientific terms.

>>727823801
>don't call "it" a her
lmao

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>>727821723
stranger things kid and girl from chvrches

this thread is cancer

kill yourself

>>727823801
This is America, faggot. Don't ever tell me what to do. If some dumb fucker wants to pretend to be a woman, I can call it anything I fucking want.

>>727822024
Nobody views transpeople like that outside of 3rd world countries

>>727821723
Fucking faggot

>>727823675
Actually because gender is a social construct you can transition between the two, sex is the hard one. I'm not sure how biologically close a person is to their transitioned sex even after reassignment surgery.

>>727824316

no you can't you degenerate fucking retard

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>>727824332
>Nobody views transpeople like that outside of 3rd world countries
Everyone views trannies like that, people in the West just have more tact/manners

>>727824332
That's your very limited point of view. For the majority they're just mentally ill freaks of nature.

How many delusional queers can be in one thread?

the age when you're old enough to want to suck a dick

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>>727824520
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
>or abridging the freedom of speech

>>727824587

Doesn't matter. The number is still going to be higher than the number of sexual encounters you had in your life time you sad fucking neckbeard.

>>727821723
Finn doesn't look like that anymore, his hair is shorter

>>727824665

Go on then call someone a nigger out in public. See how much the government is going to have your back, you autistic fucking child.

>>727824724
Unfortunately the number is still too low compared to the punches that your parents should've given to push away the faggotry out of you,

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>>727824833
Unless you live in a regressive European/Canadian shithole, it's not illegal.

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>>727825100

>tfw try to clap back but the number of chromosomes is too high

>>727821723
These two photos are obviously different people. Completely different facial structures.

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>>727825207


Since when does the law stop people from shutting up degenerates?

You're going to recite the constitution when Tyrone is squeezing you like you got the last bit of toothpaste for being a degenerate fucking queer?

>>727824316
Nobody can force you to respect trans people, it's true, but implying that people can't try to teach you about them, and how to be polite to them, is kind of closed minded.

Look in society we have standards for how people generally act, politeness and etiquette are two aspects of these standards. You don't go around calling fat people fat, you just don't do it, it's super rude and a great way to get yourself hated. Well here's another thing to add to that list, refer to people as the gender they identify as, it's just polite. There's no need to agree with them necessarily, and nobodies telling you you absolutely cannot refer to them by the wrong gender, it's just polite, and that should be enough.

>>727825207
Legality isn't the issue here, it's about respecting people in a dignified manner.

>>727825242
I have that same desk. I'll start shopping for another.

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>>727825441
>Violence is okay as long as they said something you don't agree with

This is why the left is losing.

Despite what lots of nignogs in this thread are saying, being trans is just having two wires crossed. It is clinically and medically understandable, which to most people of faith or ignorance (often the same people) this is unacceptable.

Basically, it does break down to gender, due to how body parts come together.

Male Start, get there before puberty gets rolling fast, otherwise you will look like a mishmash.

Female Start, get there before late or not long after puberty (mid-20s) as the hips and 'hour glass' shape will take hold and is harder to shed.

Side note, I'm not trans, I'm just a person who does two (of several) things in life:
1) Examine if it hurts others and is valid by professionals.
2) Absorb logical information and work to better my knowledge based on point 1.

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>>727825544
I'm no advocating for being rude to black people
I'm not even racist

I was replying to this faggot:
>>727824833
>call someone a nigger out in public.
>See how much the government is going to have your back

My point was that you can call a tranny whatever the fuck pronoun you want, and they can fuck off if they dont like it.

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>>727825845

>I am too intelligent for violence

Said anon as his teeth kissed the curb..

>>727826131
>My point was that you can call a tranny whatever the fuck pronoun you want, and they can fuck off if they dont like it.


or kick your teeth in

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>>727826101
You didnt answer the question.
Are you cool with parents feeding their young children hormones because they think they should be a different gender than they were born?

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>>727826206
What are you even trying to say?

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>>727826276
>Violence is okay as long as the other person hurt your feelings

fucking regressive scum

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>>727826438

violence is always the answer to life's problems. I have been violently masturbating throughout this conversation and you almost seem interesting.

>>727821723
When is the right age to be anorexic?

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>>727826528

DEUS VULT

>>727826131
That's true, if we look at all matters as being completely black and white you can technically just do that. But being polite is something we consider to be important in this society, at least most of us do, and doing things like that is rude and impolite.

>>727821723
Finn Wolfhardt isn't trans you cuck

>>727821723
Basically never considering the inherent risks of cancer that come with jamming hormones into yourself in lol worthy amounts.

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>>727826568
You come across as someone who couldn't handle violence outside an internet argument

>>727824511
Gender and sex are identical terms. XY and XX are the chromosomes and you should quit hogging all of them.

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>>727826812

You seem to be pro at this jecting this you're doing.

>>727826894
So my issue with that is you're deliberately trying to restrict language so that we don't have a way to even discuss this. We can call it gender identity if you prefer, something that is by definition a social construct.

Either way, how society sees, treats, and expects men and women to behave, and your biological sex are obviously two different things. What would you call the former?

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>>727826349
I answered OP's question.
> dipshit

As for yours, there is a give and take there, but the 'hard line' I would draw would be a diagnosis from a doctor, who works to ensure the child is not swayed one way or the other. But the child should identify the issue, the doctor should confirm it and the parents should be supportive.

>Any other unasked questions you are pissed I didn't answer?

>>727821723
58

>>727821723
never, that's like saying, what is the best age to get cancer

>>727821723
did you mean to say what age is the right age to start raping?

>>727821820
there you go op, first answer you get is the best one.

Is anyone else looking forward to the porn these trannies that start transitioning at 11 are gonna make? it's gonna be fucking delicious.

>>727821723
Just so people know, the woman on the right is the lead singer from the Scottish band Chvrches (yes, with a 'v'). She just looks super young. She's actually like 29 or so.

Bait.

>>727828291
OP didn't say pic related.
> Invalid post.

>>727821820
fpbp

>>727826959
So I'm right then.

>>727827369
You're the one getting pissy...

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>>727828557

It's an odd balance. You're not smart enough to follow but you still want the last word. I am tempted to give it to you.

>>727828790
You can have it, this threads gone stale anyway.

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>>727828711
Nope, didn't get pissy at all.
> But you did call out needing answers to things not asked, which makes you a dumbass.

>>727825465
Get yourself hung, drawn and quartered, you goddamned faggot.

>>727821723
He looks more masculine after he transitioned
fucking kek

>>727829120
I'm just asking, what do you call that concept? Sociologists have been calling it gender/gender role for years now.

>>727823801
No it's not faggot no matter how many times she changes her body to look like a boy's doesn't make her a boy.

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>>727823887
>butthurt CAISfag detected
Your a boy you fucking faggot

>>727829120
Do you swallow your chew like a real man?

What makes you hate faggots / trans so much, the fact that your social construct does not easily allow you to be one?

>>727829420
(((Sociologists))) yep, it checks out.

>>727830044
I'm not even asking you to take their opinion as fact. I'm just saying, what do you call the way men/women are treated and expected to behave in society?

>>727829935
Because they're scum. I've had gay friends before, they're disgusting shit bags inside and out. Not everyone that rejects your degenerate ideology is a hillbilly, you vitamin deficient cunt.

>>727821820
/thread/

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I always wondered, how do traps start hormones so young but still end up with such big dicks

>>727821723
>transitioning.

You should transition from the living to the dead TODAY faggot. Kill yourself TODAY.

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around 4-5yo for best results

>>727831277
damn that kid is good at that game

>>727830412
Well, the simple fact that you paint all people of one type as being a particular way makes you a bigot. That much is at least a fact.

I do wonder however if you have internal struggles with your own sexuality which makes you have such an immence hatred for 'dems der fags'? Perhaps not, perhaps you just live in the backwoods and have little exposure to normal homosexuals who want to be normal people living normal lives with the exception of who they desire to fuck. If it helps any, I can assure you that there are many people of that type, you don't notice them because they are not 'fem' and they are not 'activists' and alike, they are just normal people, with the one exception that they like the same gender in their bed.

But really, there has to be more reasons for you to become a bigot and declare all people of a type as you choose to define it and force them into that construct, there are more reasons, yes?

Never because it is a mental illness.

18, because transitioning is an important decision in someones life. Letting someone whos possibly going through a phase transition would be a huge mistake later down the line when if they decide that they dont want to be trans anymore.

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>>727831506

>>727831506
It's hard though because when one begins transitioning before puberty, the results are a lot more believable. I get that decisions this big almost certainly must wait until the person is an adult, it just sucks that the best time to be making it is, by definition, before then.

>>727831457
This

>>727827369
Seems reasonable desu

>>727831360
Tldr. Good effort though. I don't care what buzzword you call me. Let's talk about facts since you like facts. Trans, gays, queers and other ilk are mentally ill.

>>727832245
> You forgot closed minded.

>>727830905
Because estrogen/testosterone only comes from ovaries/testes in large amounts. The penis is primarily a muscle and won't be affected MUCH from estrogen pills but the testicles should shrink a lot. However, orgasm with ejaculation is still possible.

>>727821723
100

>>727832366
That's right they're close minded too. They claim to be for science but reject anything analytical that doesn't fit their skewed thinking. It doesn't matter how much hormones and surgery you get. You're not going to "pass" despite what tumblr tells you.

>>727822008
Lol kids can't make important decisions and be responsible for themselves (smoking, drinking, media, etc) until they're legally an adult but something like changing your body? No big deal!

Morons.

>>727832852
That's interesting....

You claim science is on your side despite the fact that it is not. Had you claimed religion was on your side, I could respect you as an ignorant human being, but since you chose science you are an uneducated ignorant being..

Just what web based references can you provide assertions from?

Because as far as I know, these people are hurting and working to do the best they can to not feel that pain.

Another question (2 of 2) can you explain how these people significiantly impact your life and damage it? If not, then I don't see why it is your problem, other than you being a bigot (I know, I know, it's a buzzword so it has no meaning) .........

There are only two genders, determined exclusively by physical sex

more than half of trans kill themselves because we do not treat their mental illness

Many of the survivors go on to change their minds

giving tranny drugs to children permanently damages their bodies and is abuse on the same level as genital mutilation

>>727821723
when uncle touchy doesn't want you no more

>>727833414
Yes there are only two genders, you're doing well billy!

Just like when faggots killed themselves due to self-hatred for how they were born, so to trans people.

This aspect of identification needs to be explored and better understood, the other option (which many support) is that they just go on killing themselves.

If the child is actually needing the transition that is one thing, if the child is influenced by some psycho parents or otherwise, that is bad.

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>>727832761
thanks but that still doesn't really answer my question. do the hormones actually cause their dicks to grow more or something? seems to me every asian shemale's dick happens to be considerably bigger than mine

pic related

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>when liberals have kids

>>727834106
Libs, Dems, Independents - all need to be slaughtered and their flesh should be used as food. Jesus would approve as he HATED faggots and HATED bisexuals and HATED transgenders. Trump will soon make this nation great again however! Soon we will be a CHRISTIAN nation and that shit will be done with.

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>>727821723
Straight out of the womb.

>>727834373
I knew jesus personally and he was fucking like 8 of the 12 apostles. nice try babydick

>>727821820
first post best post baby

>>727833387
Citation needed for your claims, and no mother jones isn't a source, faggot. Neither is a backwards belief originating from a south East Asian country.

So pumping medicine into kids who aren't capable of making sound decisions is alright to you? Of course you would believe that, this is coming from the same type of person who would argue in support of pedophilia. Also, never mind the high suicide rates, these are normal people. At least the people at Starbucks won't think you're a bigot :v)

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this guy started when he was 12

>>727835300
> Citation demanded over reply to items without citation.

You go first.

>>727835429
not bad. how old is he in this pic?

>>727823213
Your dad failed to pull out

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>>727835758
not sure, but guessing between 16-19

>>727836350
Who is it?

>>727835429
Fuck. What a cutie

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>>727836350
his/her name is vanessa willows

he/she had a tumblr and youtube account but everything is gone
>>727836563
right?

>>727821723
Never

>>727836452
>>727836661

>>727821723
Any age is fine as long as you meet the prerequisite: An hero. Faggot.

>>727831277
HAHAHA Do grate things

AHHAHA OMG