What went wrong? I'm not sick of winning because we

>we
kill yourself you fucking cunt

>>727757568
triggered

>>727757454
You elected an idiot for president

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>>727757454
>haven't won

As the media and Democratic Party follow the retarded witch hunt that is "Russian collusion". Trump and co have been tearing apart the executive branch with little to no scrutiny.

The democrats lost the election 5 months ago and are still incomplete shambles with no clear leader and no clear message other than RUSSIANS!!

>keystone pipeline
>no more regime change in Syria
>shrinking the federal government
>gorsuch on the Supreme Court

And not really do to trump the econemy is finally starting to do well after like 6 years so I'm all smiles anon.

Only niggers and idiots get hung up on the fact that he tweets stupid shit, grow up

An extremely neurotic man with no government experience was elected President. He's surrounded by yes-men.

>>727757454
We elected a meme president. The old people and hillbillys who voted him in thought it would be cool to tell the establishment to go fuck its self, largely influenced by their primary source of information: forwarded Facebook memes about Obama and Hillary being pedo, satanists, immersed in some dumb debunked or exaggerated conspiracy, etc.

So, here we are. I think a large chunk of the people who were fooled into voting him in are starting to see that they fucked up.

>>>/pol/

so not only did you elect an idiot, you don't even know how to read poll names.

>>727757938

The GOP couldn't repeal & replace Obamacare with full control of government.

>>727758144
board* poll? wtf

maybe i should go to sleep

>>727757938
>And not really do to trump the econemy is finally starting to do well after like 6 years so I'm all smiles anon.
Low/no skill loser
>Only niggers and idiots get hung up on the fact that he tweets stupid shit, grow up
No, that is just a distraction. His policies, orders, and cabinet are all really bad.

>>727758280
t. pipeline protester

>>727758178

Anyone can see he didn't want that particular version to pass so he could get rid of Ryan

>>727758178
It took 13 months to pass obamacare in the first place you think sweeping egislation just happens in a week?

It was a shitty replacement so they shouldn't have passed it, that's how the system is supposed to work

I would rather they just repealed and didn't replace

>people will lose coverage !

People don't deserve free coverage

>>727758280
Low skill loser what? The econemy is doing better it's not like I'm unemployed.

>cabinet is terrible

Please explain why you think this, the fact that half his cabinet wants to get rid of their own departments is great


I always forget that b is mostly children so they don't have much context but early Reagan was much like this, same with Kennedy

Hell even even Obamas first several months were rocky as hell

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>>727757454

>>727758749
Hey dummy, it's spelled "economy."
You aren't someone to be taken seriously.

>>727758995
>goes for the spelling

Last vestige of an ass who has nothing to say

Lern 2 argu m8-o

>>727758551
More like technician who fixes the equipment that cleans up spills from the shoddy work done by our country's retarded, no skill workforce. It's idiots like this that say stupid shit like "good enough for government work!" Fuck these proudly stupid dipshits.
>>727758749
>the fact that half his cabinet wants to get rid of their own departments is great
I disagree. I'd love to see real reform, but flipping the board is childish and short-sighted.
>I always forget that b is mostly children so they don't have much context
I was alive during Reagan's administration.

>>727759464
What reforms do you want to see I would argue 90% of the federal government is unnecessary and should be ended

>>727757454
>What went wrong?
Trump and his tardwit followers ran against his own party, which means he has no party really, and despite what liberal retards screech about dictatorships, you can't actually do shit in government without a team.

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>>727757454
The hell with this guy.
I want to fuck his daughters tits

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>>727757454
Ya got duped, son.
Hate to say I told ya so. Actually, I don't.
Fuckin' told ya so.

>>727760061
But were you then in favor of Hillary Clinton? Because those were the options. And should anyone brag about being for that dried up crone?

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Trump falls in love with a Big and Beautiful Wall.

Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the wall's building address. Never minding the strange zip code, he immediately looks up the wall on Maps.com, and is overjoyed to find out that the wall was built by and already owned by The Trump Organization.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to Megyn Kelly, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the wall he found is not the same wall he fell in love with. In fact, the wall doesn't exist in this universe at all. The wall is the alternate universe counterpart to this universe's US-Mexican border, which has fallen under administration of the MC's version of President Obama, who is blissfully unaware of the dangers of illegal immigration. The other Trump has been stumped.

Hijinks ensue as both Trumps strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to build a big & truly beautiful wall. While the two chase their respective walls, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of IMMIGRATION.

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>>727760141
Donald finds a way!

>>727760138
Lesser of two evils and all that.

>>727760141
>>>/a/
>>>/pol/
>>>/out/

>>727760141
Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139

If Trump, Pence, Paul Ryan, Orrin Hatch, Rex Tillerson, and Steven Mnuchin are all either found to have colluded with Russia, or are assassinated, we get Mattis as president.

In all likelihood, if this Russia shit plays out badly for Trump, which it honestly could, Paul Ryan will probably be Presidnt.
There are worse things that could happen.

Also I would gargle his dick for a chance to smell Ivanka's toilet seat.

>>727760227
But lesser how? Because she was pushing the whole SJW BLM program?
My point is that they were both dumpster fires. I didn't vote for either, but I can't mock Trump voters for not voting for Hillary.

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>>727760141

>>727760345
But what if I'm an SJW who supports BLM?
Inb4 "then you're an idiot."

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>>727757938

>>727760467
Nah, if you're an SJW who supports BLM you should definitely have voted for Hillary. That's why I couldn't vote for her.

>>727760345
Yes you can
>voting for an unstable meme instead of an experienced hag because of identity politics.

>>727760526
Ran against own party.
10 weeks in.
Liberals blocking travel bans and then accusing Trump of not having a travel ban.
Thinks wall gets built in February.

>>727760738
>thinks walls going to be built
this will be as relevant in 4 years time as it is today

>>727760707
But voting for Hillary WAS a vote for identity politics.
She won the dindu nuffins, the feminine penises, the tumblr feminists, etc.
That's the company you keep.
Not siding with that clusterfuck of retardation is understandable.

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>>727760738
>muh liberals

>>727760827
Like how Obama closed Gitmo on day one, as per his promise?

>>727759679
I'm not the fag who took a shot at your spelling, but you really do write like a 4th grader.
>a public hospital system that is run as a branch of the military and open to all
>end of farm subsidies
>end of basically all subsidies
>deferral of education responsibilities to the state, but with transferability between states possible with standardized testing
>massive infrastructure overhaul, including investment in solar, wind, and nuclear
>reinvestment into maintenance and protection of public lands
>more aggressive EPA
>continued protection of free speech
>end of anti-discrimination laws for sole proprietorships
>end the drug war
>constitutional amendment defining individual speech as unique and more-or-less sacred, effectively overturning the Citizens United ruling
>public campaign funding
>go back to senators being picked by state reps
>make immigration easier, but also punish illegals more severely
>election day is a paid holiday
>stop playing world police
>fuck Russia, fuck the Saudis, fuck Pakistan, and fuck every NATO member not paying their 2%
Just a few thoughts.

>>727760838
>Imblying dindus and feminine penises are bad
some dindus are, not most. You got me on tumblr feminists, though. Scum of the fucking Earth.

>>727757454
>What went wrong?
Trump was elected president.

I mean he wasn't any better then Hillary, that cunt belongs in prison, but Trump is a fucking child who's only interested in himself. If the 50% of American's who identify as independent just stuck to their values and voted independent instead of following the indoctrination of a two party system then neither Trump or Hillary would have been elected, and the world wouldn't be in this mess.

post lewd Ivakas for me to touch my penis and look at.

>>727760963
>defend free speech
>overturn free speech ruling
wut?

>>727758749
>People don't deserve free coverage

why not?

because you don't think that having a healthy workforce with the safetynet of good health care so they can concentrate on work and helping the economy is a good thing?

you think that insurance companies making billions out of providing a bad service is good for the economy?

that having the world's most expensive heatlh care system that does not cover a third of the people is a goood economic model?

that other human beings do not count, if they are not rich?

bad economics, bad use of resources, bad moral stance. bad all round.

>>727759947
Yes this! so much this

>>727760963
> end farm subsidies
>end basically all subsidies
>defer education to state
>Senators picked by reps
>fuck NATO members not paying
Are you actually a retard, or do you just pretend to be one on the internet?

>>727761058
Yes please someone

>>727761377
Because I don't believe the government has any business doing welfare or providing health coverage

That requires other people a money weather it makes you personally feel good or not is irrelevant

>>727760639
iktf
>>727761135
The speech of individuals is not the same as financing something. Money is not speech.
Also, add to the list:
>nationwide constitutional carry, but with exceptions allowed for large municipalities
>drinking/drugs age lowered to age of legal consent in that state
>>727761386
Great point.

>>727758749
>the fact that half his cabinet wants to get rid of their own departments is great

because ... their departments are not necessary? it isn't a good idea to have control of the polluters, the fraudsters, the bad quality educators peddling creationism and anti science, the short sighted billionaire exploiters of scarce natural resources, the rent racketeers and the monopoly drug barons?

what part of letting the already rich and powerful rob us blind do you really like?

>>727761496
>weather
Be honest; did you even graduate high school?

>>727760838
If we put worst against worst we are talking about Trump voters being old, country, deeply religious, racist, uneducated, gun nuts.
I am surrounded by these people and they are just as insufferable as SJW's, and do most of the same things.
>spout off with no facts, just opinions
>shit on differing opinions
>revel in hugboxes
>act self righteous all the time
>constantly push their agenda
>constantly do mental gymnastics to explain away any problem with their own beliefs
The difference is that one group voted for someone who is at least capable of running a country.

>>727761578
Believe it or not I graduated college and I'm even going back for a masters

I've always been terrible at spelling stop pestering about it, it's annoying

Anybody else find it weird that /b/ is one of the few places on 4chan where people can discuss Trump's policies without being bombarded with /pol/ memes?

>>727761610
>worst we are talking about Trump voters being
>country
>gun nuts
Hey, fuck you, bud.
t. Vermont liberal

>>727761561
Donyoy even know what federal departments do?

They mostly just redistribute funds, education was measurably better before the federal department of education was created you don't need billions of dollars and a federal department to prevent 6 schools in Alabama teaching theology

Half of the federal departments were invented since the 1960's it's simply gathering more power and influence to the few at the top why would anyone want this?

The department of energy was created in 1974 to get us off foreign oil and completely failed at that, with shale what purpose does that multi-billion dollar department serve?

How about health and human services? What about housing and urban development?

These departments allow Washington to dictate from on high what states do and how they can do it all the while waiting countless dollars

You think big business and monopoly form at the absence of government but they actually from on conjunction with government

They aren't antagonists they are partners in screwing you over or have you not noticed stagnant wages and growing wealth among the elite?

>>727761756
That's because all the cucks from /pol/ get automatically sucked into trap threads before they have a chance to post

>>727761535
Ok, I had hoped an actually argument wouldn't be necessary, because then it would indicate you were capable of some self-awareness.
>End Farm subsidies
This means you have every farmer growing the most profitable crop, and not the crops that are needed. Everyone would farm corn until the market was flooded, corn was worth dick, and there wasn't much else. The market sucks at regulating itself in a short period of time.
>end basically all subsidies
once again, the market is terrible at short term regulation. Subsidies are a tool to ensure that the state has what it needs to survive, and ideally thrive.
>Senators picked by reps
Reps exist to ensure the population of a state is fairly represented. Senators exist to ensure the interests of a state are represented equally amongst other states. There is no reason to cut out the public from being involved in some of the states most significant political processes.
>Fuck NATO members not paying
as much as I hate it, national security extends beyond the borders of our nation. The US has the wealth, resources, and population to prop up the interests of the West. NATO helps ensure a way of life that I assume you, as well as millions of others, are accustomed to.
Fuck I'm mad. I don't often get mad, but I'm mad.

>>727760867
exactly. It isnt happening

>>727762034
See we have a fundamental disagreement on the roll of the state

You clearly think the state is there to make life as nice and easy as possible, to keep things safe to keep things stable

I disagree the state should only be large enough to insure the integrity of the union and to settle disputes between states. The government is here to preserve liberty

They may or may not result in the nicest outcome, but it will result in the most liberty and that's my ultimate priority

>>727761989
traps, mlp, furry abuse.. those autists dont know how to think on /b/

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>>727757454
Nothing is wrong

>>727762320
v& and B&

>>727761496
do you think corporate welfare, tax cuts for the rich and the fact that tax payers pays tens of millions for a billionare to play golf every weekend is okay?

>>727762034
>Everyone would farm corn until the market was flooded
Have you been to the Midwest? That's exactly what I'm trying to end.
If the government wants to make sure certain crops are grown, they should directly operate their own farm system.
>Subsidies are a tool to ensure that the state has what it needs to survive, and ideally thrive.
Why not take direct control? I'm just not a fan of the government being in bed with the private sector instead of providing an alternative to it.
>There is no reason to cut out the public from being involved in some of the states most significant political processes.
I didn't say House members. It should be state-level legislators picking them, as they are representatives of that state's political body, not the populace.
>interests of the West
Oh, not Americans? I don't care. I'm an American chauvinist; fuck most of Europe and fuck your pan-westernism.

>>727757454

You were never expected to win, only Donald and his rich buddies will be winning out of all this.

>>727762497
Absolutely not

You realize that most of the corporate welfare comes through these giant federal departments and through corrupt legislatures that serve their financial backers over the people right?

You'll never get corruption out of politicos because where there is power it will be abused

So in my opinion the key is to limit the power to such a dagree that the motivation to be corrupt and the size of the corruption is small and manageable

Also >tax cuts for the rich

I want tax cuts for everybody

>>727762396
yo was that cp?

>>727762733
non nude but yeah, report that shit, fucking disgusting.

>>727762733
was very lewd pictures

>>727762774
how can non nude be considered porn?

>>727762733
It was just some idiot with those stupid 'claim this post is cp and then I'll delete the picture' posts.

>>727762792
still fucking disgusting

>>727762774
>>727762792
I downloaded them and just now noticed how young that girl looks.

Can I get in trouble for this lol? I already deleted them.

>>727762563
I'm from the midwest. Subsidies are how you end overproduction of a single crop.
>Direct control
I can't even provide a proper response to this. The idea is literally too stupid for me to wrap my head around. I mean, I can understand it, but WOW... it's bad.
>Reps
Well, I assumed reps to mean members of the house of representatives. But having state level legislatures pick them is just as bad. What the hell do you mean they are not representatives of the populace? All government is meant to serve as representative of the populace, at least in the US.
And Goddamn, I wouldn't call myself an American Chauvanist, but what's good for the West is good for America. If you learned anything from the 20th century, it's that isolationism doesn't work in the modern age.

>>727763022
I think the law states you can't have them on your drive. However, because this is off of whoever the sick fuck is who uploaded it. It shouldn't affect you. Still, don't know how you don't realise how young she it

>>727762855
because /b/is fucked in the head

>>727763170
That one picture where she has the huge ass is kind of unassuming.

There are plenty of women that still look like children in their twenties so I just assumed it was one of those.

>>727763415
there we go

>>727763415
This is getting me hard and I've never had an appetite for this help me /b/

>>727763597
careful, you don't wanna /b/e /b/anned

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>>727762700

>>727763418
>>727763418
just keep reporting each one

>>727763415
MODS

>>727763761
MODS

>>727763850
MODS

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>>727764084
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>>727764109
>>727764084
fuck off you know you like it

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>>727763415
>>727763761
>>727763850


MY BONER AND MY CONSCIOUS ARE CLASHING WITH EACH OTHER

>>727763131
>can't even provide a proper response to this
Because you don't have one?
>it's bad
Oh. I see.
Yeah, yeah, just keep funneling misery to Monsanto, Pioneer, and all of those other monsters. When they profit, we all win, right?
>What the hell do you mean they are not representatives of the populace?
You stated yourself that senators are representatives of the states. House members are representatives of the people within a district. Senators are representatives of the states, not the people within those states. Those people vote for representatives within their states to represent them as the constituents of that state. These state reps, acting on behalf of the state within the union should pick senators to represent that state's issues.
There's a reason it's bicameral. Direct democracy is usually a bad idea.
>what's good for the West is good for America
That's debatable.
>If you learned anything from the 20th century, it's that isolationism doesn't work in the modern age.
I've drawn the opposite conclusion.

>>727764261
dude shut the fuck up about the politics for one second for fuck sake. We got other shit to report rn

>>727764405
>shut the fuck up about the politics
>thread is explicitly political
Fuck off, pedo

>>727763701
I don't have to comply with corporations

Why do you think they bother to infiltrate the government in the first place

>>727764405
Are you that much of a white knight faggot?
It only takes a second to report a post. Your life doesn't start revolving around the cp somebody posted.
>>727764533
>he can't read

>>727764533
But politics are boring! young scantily clad girls aren't!

>>727761636
You better work on that spelling before you flunk out

>>727764666
thats the spirit!

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>>727757454
>What went wrong?

In-breds elected a narcissistic, orange douche-bag with a god complex

>>727759947
they're fake

>>727764681
>flunk due to spelling
how did you even pass Spelling 101 with that spelling?
I can't even imagine how you managed to make it through the upper division spelling classes.
/s

>>727764862
Mods 404 this cp thread

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>>727764862
HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT HOW IS THIS HAPPENNINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

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Mods are asleep. Post them.

>>727765010
God has willed it

>>727765082
I'd fuck that basin right in its drain hole

>>727758749
you are the same as the obama apologists, blind to anything negative about your "leader"

>>727765312
I had to put up with their asshole for 8 years,
now, they can put up with mine.

>>727765643
i don't understand. what did you have to put up with?

>>727764900
>upper division
why don't YOU stop posting in an American thread

>>727765766
>what did you have to put up with?
Obama's an Asshole
fuck Obama Care, and fuck his left wing agenda

>>727765893

MODS

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>>727759947

>>727765910
did you have a hard time with ObamaCare? what happened?

>>727766017
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>>727766071
my mother's Dead
Fuck You

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>>727765643
spoken just like a trumptard.

>>727765777
i was born in the US and have never been out.
At my university, the term upper division is used..
google "upper division course". a lot of us universities use the term.

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what happened to the dude who posted the cheese pizzas?

>>727766169

But how did the ACA kill your mother?

>>727766169
the same way I'm gonna kill you if you don't shut-up, you fucking Obama apologist.

>>727757454
>posting morbidly obese ferret

is this new meme?

>>727757938
The dems are fine with these "wins" because they will go down in history as terrible decisions.

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>>727767167

NO PUPPET
he actually said that
he literally is a meme

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>>727767557

>>727757454
i think it'd be a shorter list of what went right

>>727757454
he's already the greatest president in my lifetime and i'm an old fuck

>same basic "Drumpf XDDD" thread
>every
>single
>day
The man is a legend and basicly youre a huge fag

>>727757982
>Who is Obama

>>727768564
woah, its almost as if people talk about presidents, you vegetable

>>727757759
I didn't vote for Obama.

>>727757938
>keystone pipeline

Cool, so like 40 people will get jobs. Woah dude

>>727768777
me neithere

>>727760738
Trump literally controls every branch of government and still blames liberals for being impotent

>>727768622
Obama had government experience. If this was Jeapordy, you would lose.

Well i am sure you are losing everything anyway

>>727768635
pretty pretty china sreep at borring arrey


me so hohny

>>727768669
>>>/pol/