Ok physicist fags... what happens?

>>727499072
Question doesn't make sense. Speed of light is linear speed (m/s), gears turn at angular speeds (rad/s).

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>>727499072
The gears would spin fast. Many revolutions per second.

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>>727499072
>Ok physicist fags... what happens?

Easy, it will turn at the speed of light.

>>727499289
Dayum stay droppin them knowledge son.

Teeth break off, you really think some dinky metal can withstand lightspeed without melting?

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>>727499072
>>727499289
Pretty sure that friction would just heat it up and immediately explode. Since physical matter can't travel at the speed of light, we probably wouldn't even be able to see what would be happening. The object would be going so quickly that it'd travel /with/ the light that it's supposed to be reflecting into our retinas.
But what if we /could/ see it?

Then our theories wouldn't work. One of the gears would seem to be moving quicker than the universe's capped speed limit, which is impossible. We've hit a paradox.

>>727499289
This
And thiss scenario could never happen anyway.

>>727499072
The gears would transcend time and space, your mom would stop sucking dicks, and op would get laid.

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The speed of light cannot be broken. Universe implodes.

>>727500052
Read in his voice

>travel at speed of light in hyperspeed /b/ ship
>walk forward inside cabin
>wow I just went lightspeed + speed of me walking
>einstein is a fag

Couldn't rotate at that speed without first bringing the other gear to the same speed, since it's resisting the torque.

And that's assuming the gears won't break first.

>>727500461
Your step would just move you forward while moving the ship backwards slightly.
Not a true max velocity then, is it?

>>727500461
nope. time slows down as you speed up to prevent this.

>>727500235
kekd

WICH IS GEAR 1?

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>>727500052
Let's explore this more. And to explore, we'll have to explore a bit of the history in light-speed study.
In 1858, a man by the name of Nigel D, Fitzelshmitz was experimenting by throwing particles across his backyard at light-speed, and measuring the visibility of the objects with his slow motion camera. His son, hitting the particles into the atmosphere with his bat. After hours of studying the mystery of light-speed travel, he found that any object that he tossed /faster/ than the speed of light had very strange energy "clothes" on. His son's bat immediately exploded in his hands, and had them amputated the following evening. But this got Nigel thinking.
"If I toss this object at twice the speed of light, will it exist?"
He spent an /enormous/ amount of time studying and reviewing the high definition footage of his throws, but eventually, his research died with him. He was buried with his camera and SD cards.

>>727499289
At any particular instance, an object released from the surface of the small gear would move tangential to the small gear at a rate of c. Given that the larger gear has a ratio of 1:2.5 to the smaller gear, at what speed would an object travel if released from the larger gear given these initial conditions?

>>727499072
Better question. What if you're traveling the speed of light and turn on a laser or flashlight pointing forward. Does the light not come out?

Similarly, when a pilot traveling beyond the speed of sound speaks, does their voice not come out?

>>727500731
And as always, thanks for watching.

>>727499072
They shatter because of vibration's and lack of lubricant from the gear oil. Simple shit.

>>727500814
if youre traveling at the speed of light you dont see things normally anyway

>>727500961
There's a lot of things we can't see, but they're still interesting to quantify.

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Funnily enough, I have a video on a related phenomenon here on my YouTube channel.
https://youtu.be/ACUuFg9Y9dY
This might be able to answer some of your questions, /b/!

And as always, thanks for reading.

>>727501101
wow vsauce. thanks a lot!

>>727500961
You speak from experience I assume. I have no experience traveling very fast. When you travel past the speed of sound can you hear?

>>727500915
Wow I wish I was a smart engineer like you!

>>727499072
Both gears would be traveling at the speed of light. If gears didn't have the same velocity where they mesh, they wouldn't mesh... Serious answer: They would become massless and release an incredible amount of energy due to special relativity.

>>727499072
Make an animation in a 3d program like unity. Physical matter can't travel at this speed but a computer could think faster than light so it could simulate it

>>727501242
depends on where you are. If you're in a plane of course you can, because the air in the cabin will be moving with you, but if you were just physically traveling at the speed of sound, well, you'd probably have so much wind blowing in your ears that you wouldnt be able to hear shit, or youd die from all the friction with the air.

>>727501382
First semi satisfying answer.

>>727501443
That would be a worthy death. Thank you

>>727501500
yep. also nice dubs

>>727500810
at fucking c you moron unless you want t be a dyke and include friction

>>727501242
sidenote, the thing is with sound is that you /* ik theres no html deal with it */ <i> can </i> travel faster than sound, but cant travel faster than light, so it gets tricky.

If you held a stick in space that was 80,000 miles long, and moved it like singing a bat, the far side of the stick would go the distance of between Earth and the moon in only a couple seconds. Why then don't they invent space travel hubs like miles long bats

>>727501806
I saw a video about this. Its because the base of the stick would have to be as thick as the observable universe just to begin with.

I'll have you know I'm a first year engineer with an iq of 170 and I definitely know more than anyone in this thread. I'm also an INTJ so that means I'm good at this sort of thing.

A cock tribute thread is created

>>727499072
It doesn't specify why gear is gear 1 fuckhead! also doesn't show what's connected to either gear. Depending on what keeps the gears in place depends on what happens

>>727501884
ill have you know that your a fucking faggot

>>727501765
Not true. Current understanding of the laws of physics in this universe say we can't travel faster than light. Nothing in science is set in stone, unless it's literally written in stone i guess

>>727501870
wat

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>>727501765
>you /* ik theres no html deal with it */ <i> can </i>
hohoh found the newfag

>>727501930
What have you done you degenerate scum. If it's not engineering then you may as well end your life now.

>>727501962
it has to do with structural integrity

>>727501806

How exactly would you travel to the far end of the stick in a timely manner?

lol.

>>727501870
Why? I'm not talking about light speed or traveling light years, just the distance of the moon

>>727501806

I would imagine because an 80,000 mile radius still doesn't fucking get you anywhere...

>>727501975
>deal with it

litearrly physics are gay!
and ohysict man are gay too!
they aren t not real scientists they invent things in their data, such as darkkmatter it may not explain one thing about nature!
they once were uslefull to engineers but now they are craxu abut habing quantum mechanics in eeryting

>>727502056
thats the thing. It would cause the end of the stick to go faster than light

>>727502045

80,000 miles could be traversed in a few hours. But the whole concept is stupid because swing the bat all you want, you're still just 80,000 miles from earth.

Nothing with matter can travel at the speed of light. So there you go.

>>727502045
The far end would be at Earth, the hub in space. Get in far end, hub rotates and you're at the moon or Mars in no time

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>>727499072
It breaks because steel is far from neutral in mass and there for cannot physically reach the speed of light.
Also mass distortion (elongation) from travelling any significant percentage of the speed of light would pull the gear apart separating the teeth from each other anyway.

Not possible.

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>>727502081
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>>727501765
*/ <i> can </i>

%triforce

>>727502224
see? it doesnt work

>>727502224
Okay dude first off,
1) A REAL Navy Seal wouldn't go around bragging about his accomplishments and possibly reveal his identity.
2) The United States isn't a totalitarian regime so if you were to attack citizens randomly, then you'd be going to jail
and
3) What is a Navy Seal doing on 4chan anyways?
You're probably a NEWFAG who cannot get fucking laid.

>>727500235
No, the standard model confirms that in no universe can OP's mom ever set sucking dicks.

>>727502224
thought id fall for that nigger?

>>727502366
Say it to my face, see what happens

>>727502409
youre a NEWFAG

>>727502366
HAHAHAHAHAHAH NEWFAG NEWFAG NEWFAG NEWFAG

>definitely not bait

>>727502186

You still have to travel to the end of the hub which takes time.

Also the moon and mars are two different distances. you would have to travel different distances first which defeats the purpose of just "swining" to get somewhere.

>>727502186

The moon is 240,000 miles away. Mars is 34 million fucking miles away. What the actual fuck are you talking about? You're 80,000 mile stick does nothing... unless your implying we slingshot a craft off the end of it?

>>727502366
Nice bait

>>727502464
anyway the swinging would break the stick unless the base was as large as the observable universe

>>727502453
y-yessir

>>727502453
Still waiting, too much of a momma's boy i guess. As a navy marine commando I would punch a hole through you're head and shit inside it as a toilet, then comb your hair with my tank

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>>727502366

>This is now a shit toasting bread

>>727499289
Even if we where to take that in the hypothetical, I believe the answer was given as both gears would in their own frame of reference be turning at the speed of light, as counter-intuitive as that sounds.

>>727502464
The end of hub is at Earth, it's got long one for Mars, short for the moon. The hub is far away between Earth and moon and you get in end of stick in like 3 hours, then instant travel to the galactic core in a couple seconds where it sucks you in and you cum inside the galactic whore and he give birth to baby universe

>>727502738
What are gears even but like metal round people with teeth

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>>727502224
%triforce

...Nope.

>>727502965
Fucking hot who is this

>>727502751
I died

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>>727502366
Stop embarrassing yourself fag

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>>727503001

Sum dum ho from days gone by. Kinky bitch too

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>>727499072
This seems like an interesting thought experiment and we may be doing Anon's homework for him but here goes;

The model described would not be able to hold the angular momentum (which would be infinite), would require an impossible amount of energy to accelerate it (Infinite), the stress on the parts would be (you've guessed it) Infinite.

But, if we suspend the laws of common sense for this thought experiment, what would happen?
Conventional science teaches that gear 1 would be traveling at the speed of light but we would be unable to observe it directly, gear 2 would also be traveling at the speed of light.

But wait!

For generations, physicists believed there is nothing faster than light moving through a vacuum — a speed of 186,000 miles per second.

But in an experiment in Princeton, N.J., physicists sent a pulse of laser light through cesium vapor so quickly that it left the chamber before it had even finished entering.

The pulse traveled 310 times the distance it would have covered if the chamber had contained a vacuum.

Researchers say it is the most convincing demonstration yet that the speed of light — supposedly an ironclad rule of nature — can be pushed beyond known boundaries, at least under certain laboratory circumstances.

So I fucked up your homework or got you an A+ depending on how much of a dick your prof is.

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>>727503100

>>727499072
Basically, nothing happens. If you assume that
A) the gears are of a material that can't be broken
B) you have a point of reference where by they aren't lorentz-shifted
And C) no other forces(eg gravity, friction, etc) are acting on them
What happens is the "teeth" of your gears grow in mass until it is impossible to accelerate them beyond the speed of light. The simplest way to explain it is that the universe will simply force the gears to slow down so that nothing in the system is traveling faster than light.

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>>727503156

>>727499072
As it approaches 1/5th the speed of light, it will require exponentially more energy to get it spinning faster, as the energy of the system is being directed directly into the smaller gear.

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>>727503201

>>727503100
Why there's no hot kinky whore like this where i live, everyone here looks like the slug on monsters inc

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>>727503231

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>>727503407


last juan

>>727503444
Checked
So hot what's her number

>>727499072
If gear 1 turns at the speed of light, so does gear 2. You're getting mp/h confused with revolutions/second. They both turn at the speed of light but the second gear revolves more often because it's smaller. This seems like a "troll physics" question.

>>727500814
Your second question is moot because the pilots cabin is enclosed and pressurized therefore unaffected by the outside environment. Relatively the things inside the cabin arent moving at the speed of sound, just being carried by the thing that is.

Idk if there is an answer to the question in this thread because I'm not gonna read all the retarded shit you faggots thought to try to find someone who has any semblance of an idea of what they are talking about. First off, the gear cannot turn at the speed of light because it has mass, so lets say its like 0.99c or something like that. The larger gear WOULD move faster than that, but it would experience length contractions such that the gear deforms spacetime and no point on the gear would be traveling faster than c.

>>727499072
This cannot be: The mass of every material will increase the more the velocity increases. On light speed, the mass would be (theoretical) infinitely. Nothing can muster such amounts of energy (because it must be also infinitely).
Away from this the gear would get ruined at a relatively low speed because the adhesion couldn't hold it together

>>727501393
most computers think around 60% the speed of light

>>727501936
Which isn't even a permanent fixture, since the earth constantly recycles it's crust.

>>727502045
By using the same method on a smaller scale several times.

THE TEETH DON'T MESH IF ONE GEAR IS TURNING FASTER YOU RETARDED FUCKS. THEY TRAVEL THE SAME SPEED. FUCK PHYSICS, LEARN SOME BASIC FUCKING MECHANICS.

>>727501393
lol no it can't

>>727504235
>implying stone has to remain on Earth
>implying the possessive pronoun "its" has an apostrophe.

>>727500461
>travel at speed of light
>have infinite mass

Naw dawg

>>727501806
because escape velocity. which is mach 33 or 33 times the speed of sound. which is a fuck ton of energy and fuel. when accelerating to 25,311 mph (mach 33) energy and fuel is crucial, to get the most energy and least fuel you need a relatively light rocket, thus building a massive cylindrical space hub isnt feasible because it would take rocket launch after rocket launch after rocket launch because the amount of material necessary to build one is just absurd. which is why we dont have any massive structure out in space already

>>727499072
Probably turns into atoms and maybe even a very brief black hole... Idfk I smack hammers for a living.

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>>727501393
>a computer could think faster than light

What the fuck do you think it's using to send various signals throughout its system???? Super light??

>>727504475
>implying a rock floating through space won't just collide with something else eventually.
>implying I care about grammar.

>>727500699
Lost hard

>>727501936
do you hear yourself when you speak? do you read what you write? do you comprehend actual thought? because what you just said... no

>>727499072

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they are both moving the same speed, just one of them is doing more rotations.

>>727504235

Callin you out fam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craton

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>>727503918
>>727504347
>>727504711
>45 unique IP addresses
>only 3 people can muster up the measly amount of brainpower it takes to solve this problem

This is why the world is ending as we speak.

>>727499072
It would be really heavy, centrifugical or something "force" would pull it apart though long before it reached that speed.

>>727499072
Is this loli or a real girl? http://www.ipanon.com

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>>727504890
and they are wrong. if the teeth on the left do one full revolution at the speed of light, then the teeth on the smaller gear would be doing multiple revolutions at the speed of light. ergo, passing the same point multiple times, faster then the speed of light

>>727505534
You'll have to explain that retarded logic to me. If you have a gear that is 2 units around, and another gear that is 1 unit around, the 1 unit gear will rotate twice per rotation of the 2 unit gear. Thus they have traveled the same distance in the same amount of time (hint: that means they're travelling at the same speed).

>>727505744
thats exactly how it works.

its rotating faster then the speed of light, because the first gear is rotating at the speed of light, and so the second gear is revolving faster then the speed of light

>>727505534

And this is why 90% of people in America vote Republican or Democrat.

They literally have no idea how the world works.

>>727505906
No, it's not. It has a smaller distance to travel per rotation, so even though it's going around twice as many times, it's travelling the same distance. You can't quantify rotations as light speed because light moves linearly. However many rpms it takes for gear 1 to move a gear tooth at the speed of light, it will take twice as many for gear 2, but they will both be travelling the same amount of distance over the same amount of time. Please understand this so I can restore some of my faith in the human race.

If it's moving at the speed of light, then wouldn't that mean it has no mass thereby unable to move the other gear?

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>>727506213

>>727506260
Look at the fucking distance traveled you retarded cunt and try to tell me they're travelling different speeds. Jesus fucking christ, I actually can't believe this is happening.

>>727506353
it is. its right there in the diagram. because gear 2 revolves twice every time gear one rotates once, the gear that it starts with travels from one side, to the other, twice as fast.

thats how gears work.

>>727499072
nothing you haven't invented frictionless gears so they would instantly immolate in a fury blinding light before the atoms they consist of are scattered vastly around a large area...your puny little gears can't handle the speed of light, what do you think this shit is, unobtanium?

>>727506589
Distance from A to B=2
Distance from D to E=1 (great alphabetical skills btw, it's easy to forget that third letter)

So if D goes to E twice in the time it takes A to go to B that means:

D -> E (1) x 2 = 2
A -> B (2) x 1 = 2

Same distance

Same time

Same speed

This is like, 3rd grade math? Maybe? Possibly lower? Come the fuck on.

>>727506353
oh and heres a gear diagram for you. youll notice that while gear 1 is revolving at 1 rpm, gear 2 is revolving at...2 rpm. so if gear one is revolving at the light of speed

the second gear is revolving at...twice the speed of light.

http://geargenerator.com/#200,200,100,1,1,1,699.9000000000906,2,1,8,1.3333333333333333,6,20,-60,0,0,4,0.6666666666666666,6,20,-60,0,0,2,973

>>727506984
I give up. You are simply too retarded to teach. I can only pray to whatever forces govern this universe to cause you some horrible and untimely death to prevent you from spreading the disgusting vermin in your ballsack that you call genetic code.

>>727501884
>>727502030
I'm not even the guy you were gloating at, I just hate you instantly because you are the stereotype.

You are a cunt. I'm a 4th year electrical engineering student and I'm an ENTJ so I'm better at these types of things. Your IQ isn't 170, and the next 4-6 years of your life are going to be horrible.

I don't care if you have an IQ of 500, the workload will overwhelm you and with your attitude, you aren't going to make it. Buckle up buckaroo

>>727506984

No, it isn't. They are moving at the same speed and covering the same distance. Go ahead. Put two gears together and spin one. The other moves at the same speed.Yes, the smaller one will rotate faster because it requires less distance to complete a full revolution than a larger gear, but it also has to cover more distance to keep up with the large gear.

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>>727499072
If we can put spin those gears into motion that fast, they would eventually heat up and break apart due to friction. Assuming the gears can move this fast at all without exploding or melting and the little one hit the around speed of 299,792,458 m/s, it would be going so fast that it would lose its electrons and it would fall apart at the subatomic level, releasing energy as photons and causing a nuclear explosion.

>>727499072
Because time stops for objects traveling at the speed of light, the second object would travel at a higher speed and thus time would begin to move backwards.

>>727501884
>>727507236

Nobody cares what anyone's fictional feel good IQ score or unverifiable credentials are.

>>727507361
>the other one rotates faster

faster then the speed of light.

>>727507127

>>727499289
Winrar

>>727499072
Assume you meant the gear had an angular velocity of the speed of light, the gears are indestructible, and rotating around fixed points. So reduce the question to what it wants to be, how does an object moving at the speed of light relate to one moving at 2.5 times the speed of light.

I will also assume that by speed of light you meant .9bar speed of light.

Easy, either your second gear has no mass or has infinite mass after some period of time. Either way the laws of physics clearly stop working as we know them.

Tldr: fuck off

>>727507471
I know, that's my point, the guy was being a cunt. I just wanted him to know that he's not going to make it in engineering school, because he's a weakminded punk cuck.

>>727507503
No it won't, that guy phrased it wrong. The second one will rotate more often. They will both be going the same speed. As I already stated here
>>727506213
the number of rotations does not constitute speed, that's why we say something is spinning at rotations/minute or rotations/second not in miles per hour. Because one gear is larger than the other, they rotate the same distance in the same amount of time. This applies to all gear ratios. A gear that is 5 times smaller than a gear it is attached to will rotate 5 times more often than the other gear, but the teeth on the gears will be moving at the same speed. It is honestly baffling that you've managed to go this long without your feeble mind comprehending this extremely basic concept.

>>727499072
Neither gear will be able to reach the speed of light. The closer you get to the speed of light, the more energy it takes to accelerate. The amount of energy needed to accelerate any object with mass to the speed of light is infinite.

This is all assuming these gears could physically handle the speeds we're talking about, which they can't.

>>727507737
if the first one is rotating at the speed of light, and the second one rotates faster...then....its

rotating faster, then the speed of light

>>727506878
lmao you would be a great engineer
>Come the fuck on

>>727507853
speed of light=miles per hour
number of rotations= rotations per minute

How the everloving fuck are you not getting this? If the teeth on either gear were moving at even slightly different speeds they would constantly collide and cause the gears to separate and break.

Kek. Actually getting trolled this fucking hard.

>>727508050
ahh cause you cant convert miles/hour in 1/s if you have the radius, this is obviously not possible
u make so much sense

>>727508104
I don't care if it's a troll, someone that has already understood it and is just pretending to be a troll to save face (on an anonymous website) or anything in between. I cannot possibly accept the risk that someone on the planet earth could be this stupid if I have an opportunity to address that issue.

>>727507503

No you idiot. It ROTATES faster because it's smaller. It has less distance to go.

It's like Mercury orbiting around the Sun, yes it completes an orbit once every 87 days rather than 365 like Earth, but it isn't really going faster. It has much less distance to travel because it is closer to the sun.

47.362 km/s for Mercury, 29.78 km/s for Earth. Those are less than a factor of two apart. The orbital period (or rotation around the sun or center axis) is different by a factor of over 4, because of the distances they must travel.

You are only taking into account one variable, and no common sense.

I know you won't believe me but I'm legit 3rd year physics at Oxford. Questions doesn't make sense, look at the gamma factor - it's mathematically impossible unless OP is so autistic he like infinities in nature - CUNT

>>727499289
Explain to a dumbass what the difference is. Why can't gears turn at the speed of light?

>>727508239
...right, so if the 1st one rotates at the speed of light, the second one rotates twice...the speed of light

ones rotating at the speed of light so the other is rotating twice the speed of light

>>727508364
because we don't know hot to build an engine this powerful

>>727501101
For real?

Michael of vsauce on /b/? Fucking love those videos!

>>727508155
No, you can't. Think of it like this.

Imagine a single point moving in a circle. This single point is travelling in mph. If the circle is one mile, and the point takes one hour to complete a single loop, it is travelling at one mile per hour.

Now imagine a line spinning, like the blades of a helicopter. The line itself is not travelling at any given speed, it is rotating at a certain number of rotations per hour. Various points along the line are travelling at mph, but the entire system is not travelling, it is rotating. If the spinning line is one mile long, and it takes an hour to make a full rotation, the line is spinning at 1 rotation per hour.

This is why the number of rotations each gear makes does not matter. In the end, they are rotating at different rates, but the points at the farthest end of each tooth are moving at the same speed.

>>727499072
all the teeth fall off the 50 tooth

>>727508464
What if we did have an engine that powerful?

>>727499072
The teeth of the larger gear hit the teeth of the smaller gear at light-speed. Immediate nuclear fusion takes place, releasing photons, neutrons and protons to the surrounding atoms.
As the speed of the larger gear is kept constant, fresh atoms are brought into the fusion zone.
Approximately 0.0001 microseconds after system start, the fireball engulfs the observer, killing him/her before the nerve signal from the eyes reaches the brain.
The fusion reaction continues until netiher gear have teeth left, at which point the larger gear continues to rotate at lightspeed, thereby containing infinite angular momentum and thus energy.
If we presume both gears are made of Undestructium, then both the larger AND smaller gear are turning at the speed of light according to any external frame of reference. However, due to time-dilation, the gears themselves will perceive each other turning at different speeds, as they perceive each other to be of different size.

>>727499072
We tried making things have an angular speed of C, and found out that no material or engine can withstand it, the contraption just breaks at some point before C.

So, that's the idea. If one gear was going at C, the other would just break apart.

>>727508364
the speed of the wheel is an angular speed, measured in radians/sec. ie the distance around a circle.

i'm pretty sure every rotating object has a tangential velocity at it's surface though..so his justification for why it doesnt work isn't right

>>727501448

But also not true.

Truth is that the question makes no sense. An object with mass cannot travel at the speed of light. Speculating about hypotheticals makes no sense. It is very much the same as asking what the result
of zero divided by zero is. Makes no sense. I really like this quote as an answer to that question: imagine you have zero cookies and you divide them up equally between all of your zero friends, how many cookies or fractions of cookies does each friend have? Makes no sense.

>>727508517
each tooth of 1 gear wheel sure but, but gear 1 and 2 dont have the same frequency
and yes you can convert it into speed you just answered that yourself, you just look at one singe spot of the gear wheel
if it's not then i just performed magic in my exams

>>727508553
idk man, i think you maybe we could hit the point of speed
but i honestly am not sure i'm just a filthy engineer

The other rotates faster or slower in the opposite direction .
Usually the Drive gear is called the pinion, and is the smaller of the 2.

I have the answer that science fgs give when they are stumped. Gear 2 will collapse into a black hole. Seriously that is all science has got. How big is Graham's number? Your brain will collapse into a black hole thinkng about it. kys science fags

>>727508553
Then we'd break the universe.
The engine would need to produce an infinite amount of energy. Even at 100% efficiency, the engine would require an infinite amount of fuel injected at zero time.
We'd simultaneously cause the Big Crunch (consuming the universe to fuel the engine and still fall a bit short), as well as a Really Big Bang (as we'd be outputting more energy than the first actual Big Bang contained)

>>727500052
however, speed is a measurement of distance over time. Therefore there's one thing faster than light, and that's time itself. I would think that if gear 1 was turning at lightspeed, gear 2 would end up breaking the time barrier and cease to exist in our timeline, leaving us with the appearance of just a single gear spinning at lightspeed. However, you must also consider that as previously stated, the speed of light is a linear measurement and this is a radial measurement. Which part of gear 1 is spinning at lightspeed, the center? If so, its edges are spinning much, much faster, compounding even more speed onto gear 2, possibly transmogrifying gear 2 into jesus, to watch you masturbate to lolis.

>>727499072
I think nobody really gets it, in order to move at the speed of light you must be massless which the gears are not. If they were they wouldn't be capable to interact with one another. Also in order to be massless the object must continuously move at the speed of light at all times in order to exist.

>>727508756
Yes, you can convert it into speed by taking a certain point on the gear wheel. That entirely removes rotations from the equation. I believe I've said this 4 times now, something can't rotate at the speed of light. That's not a thing.

Consider this now. Take your line from the previous question (moving at one rotation per hour). If the furthest point at the end of that line travels one mile per rotation, it is travelling at one mile per hour. What about the points closer to the center? They are travelling smaller distances over the same period of time, and are therefore travelling slower. So how can an object be quantified as rotating at a certain number of miles per hour when different parts of it are moving at different speeds? It can't. That is why we quantify rotating objects in rotations per second/minute/hour. Do you understand now? The gear can not be rotating at the speed of light because those two things are not quantified the same way.

>>727499072
The gears would break apart

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>>727499072
Okay ill answer this question like im assuming how you meant to ask it. (Since the answer is trivial that gear 2 would have the same tangential velocity as gear 1 and therefore travel at the same 'speed') (speed not to be confused with RPM)

Okay lets assume the gears are indestructible and near massless. In physics you have to deal with
reference frames when you deal with speeds close to the SoL.

Say your on a comet traveling 99% the speed of light. Now say you throw a rock really hard in the direction of your motion. What happens is you actually slow the rocks time. In your frame the rock looks normal and goes as fast as you would expect. But in other peoples frame, the rock only goes slightly faster than you.

Instead of going faster than the speed of light the rocks time slows down. It percieves the rest of the universe going slower and it still going about 99% of the SoL.

So if you were standing on the edge of gear 2 and you saw gear 1 spinning (in this case it would need to be detached and spinning at 4x the RPM of gear 1 to have twice the tangential velocity) you would see gear 1 spinning rather slowly and the rest of the room moving even slower (like slow-mo slow).

Interesting physics is what would happen when you walked along the radi of the gear towards the center.

>>727509171
Assuming we ignore that objects with mass cannot travel at the speed of light, if the teeth on gear 1 in the OP's question are moving at the speed of light, the teeth on gear 2 are doing the same thing. The gears themselves are rotating at different rates yes, but any difference in speed of the teeth themselves would cause them to constantly become unaligned.

The first line of this post
>>727509249
confirms what I've been trying to tell you.

>>727509249
Say you're on that comet, then turn on a super bright flashlight in the same direction of travel, how does that work with massless photons of light?

>>727509322
Also if you somehow managed to use this logic on an exam you took and your professor marked it correct then you should transfer schools, because your professor is more retarded than a random 21 year old on /b/.

>>727499072
mass cannot hit the speed of light, only approach it. You're question is similar to
>'Why can't divide by 0?'
You can't answer this question because in Physics it can't happen.

>>727509171
i think you take this too serious op meant the just the digits of speed of light and didn't know the difference betweeen speed and rotations per second. at least that's what i assumed i agree with you but i think that's not what OP meant

>>727509373
You would percieve the flashlight to work close to normal. The beam of light would go out ahead of you seeming to 'break the speed of light' when in reality, time is slowing.

>>727499072
the gear turning at such a velocity disintegrates from air friction, or if it was infinitely strong turns the air to plasma and kills everyone near it

>>727509373
You would think the photons travel away from you at c

Observer would think photon is travelling at c as well, relative to himself, but you are chasing after the photon like crazy at 99% of c

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>>727509525
If OP meant:
>If the teeth on gear 1 move at the speed of light, how fast do they move on gear 2?
In which case my first answer was correct, they move at the same speed.

If OP meant:
>If gear 1 rotates at the speed of light, how fast does gear 2 rotate?
Then I would change my answer to "light doesn't rotate".

I only take this so seriously because an anon in the thread was failing to understand an extremely basic concept and it distresses me that a human being with internet access could be that misinformed.

>>727509557
What would be really funny would be if the gear was made of iron it would generate some fucky ass electromagnetic fields.

>>727509533
Well relative to you time wouldn't exist. But that still doesn't work on photons, they are massless. They are uneffected by time at all. So the photon that reaches us from the sun had literally experienced "0" time. Or any distant star, the photon thats billions of years old according to the distance given and the speed if light the photon still experiences no time at all. So how would traveling at near light speed slow its time, when it experiences 0 time?

>>727500814
Weird shit happens around the speed of light. There's time dilation and weird stretching shit. If it looks like A is moving at essentially the speed of light from C's view, and to A it looks like B is moving at essentially the speed of light, then to C it just looks like B is moving marginally faster than A. Then time dilation and stretching makes all the frames of reference coherent.

You really shouldn't have thoughts about the speed of light unless you've studied physics. It will not make sense unless you look at the math. You just end up posing stupid questions to uneducated people who parrot back that they also don't understand and are also confused but your question tickled then in a way that gravity and planes on a treadmill also do.

>>727499072
OBJECTION!!
The small gear has fourteen teeth, the big one fourty!

>>727509700
>light doesn't rotate
this makes no sense. it s about the SPEED of light so what if the gear would rotate 299 792 458 1 / s. given the fact that op meant this.
so what would happen is gear 1 would turn with 299 792 458 1 / s

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>>727509749
Photos do have mass, just very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very small mass. And you're right in the fact they experience almost no time at all. We don't actually know how stable these particles are because they experience so little time.

>>727509752
You do realize they are starting claim to have measured actual gravity this year at like the beginning of this month or something. Apparently, gravity is a wave some how.

>>727509832
Read any of these posts to find out why you're retarded. If you can't figure it out, I really don' care, I'm done trying to help.

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>>727509969
Gravitational waves. Its like putting a bowling ball on a bed. It makes spacetime bend from its mass. If you throw the bowling ball it will make ripples.

>>727510002
>light doesn't rotate

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>>727509930
That is very very very wrong

Photons have no mass

>>727509930
They aren't just particles, they have a wave function too when left unobserved. And waves are thought to be massless where particles are bits of matter with mass, hence why we used to think photons had some kind of mass, but quantum physics beg to differ. If you read the entire study performed on the diuvle slit experiments you would shit bricks so badly you could rebuild the world trade centers.

>>727510203
Double* gotta hate phones

>>727510203
What's the link to the study?

Only ever saw the video. Always suspected they leave out some intricate details because they cater to their audience and shit (like what exactly does "observe" mean). Would love to take a look

>>727510078
They have kind of tossed this udea around for a while. But they apparently detected them for the first time sometime this year. It just seems too convinient to be quite honest.

>>727510400
*videos

Many of them out there of course

>>727510400
You watched the cartoon thingy?
I did too, at first. Theres a much more in depth video that will shorten your research time by alot.

https://youtu.be/JV7K8CvA26I

Its over an hour long, might wanna sit in the toilet while watching. Because its a good one. Brix will be shat.

I watch this shit for fun and my roommates hate me because they cant understand annything being said and it makes them feel stupid. Which they are.

pretty much nuclear apocalypse via acceleration of particles. it would take an infinite amount of energy to get a particle in gear one to have an absolute velocity of lightspeed. sice there is energy transmitted to heat and friction in this model by fraction of kinetic energy...
well, BOOM.

>>727499072
wud break tho actually

>>727510590
I do the same fucking thing literally all.the.time

It makes me sad that I didn't study math or physics. Was always the best in school, literally number one of 150 people. Wanted money instead, so went to business school and now have a MSc in finance and MBA. And I am horribly depressed because I have money but no meaning. And also I'm fat and unlucky with the ladies but that is barely worth mentioning on /b/ anyway

>>727508998
this! and only this

>>727499072
But that makes no sense

if the gear were moving at the speed of light, it wouldnt be a gear. It would be pire energy and have no mass.

>>727510798
Ha, im the exact opposite of that. Except im fat too, but I fucked around with the girls back in highschool and just slacked alot in school i ended my senior year with .075credits (yes you read thst right) before getting my GED before my year graduated and i am currently gonna try and slum my way to owning a business.

If you want to skip to the doublr slit experiment study you can start at 42:00 in and it should go on for a but about the sun, then it'll lead into the actual study done at 44:45 in.

>>727499072
Only massless particles can travel at the speed of light. Your asumption is absurd

>>727511450
Light is a wave you dunce. You can't have massless particles. Thats an oxymoron. Particles are bits of matter, and matter always has mass in order to exist.

>>727501101
Thanks balding science man.

>>727502366
Subtle

>>727511260
Don't know us high school system (my only us education is the MBA) but I'll interpret the context... best of luck with the business!

Is the video the astonishing simplicity of everything? Because that's what comes up on my phone but I swear I watched it like yesterday so I'm not sure if it's a bug or if we really watch pretty much the same shit :D

>>727499072
It would simply explode, but long before reaching the speed of light.

>>727499072
First of all you wouldn't reach speed of light (would change dimensions etc), second of all it would melt from the friction far before reaching one millionth of speed of light.

>>727510402
>"they" "kinda tossed the idea"

It was literally part of Einstein's theory, but he didn't have instruments sensitive enough to prove it at the time

>>727499072
You could never spin it that quickly. As another anon pointed out, the gear would explode long before it got even close.

It wouldn't matter even if you had an indestructible gear, though - it would take an infinite amount of energy to spin the gear up to the speed of light.

>>727511696
Yep, That's the video. He goes much more in depth into the study than most other videos. If you seen it before you should know that they did some interesting tests that show that photons some how travel in time to establish if they will be observed or not and then act accordingly. They literally tested this by placing multiple layers of observational tools behind the slits instead of in front, because they wanted to recreated the disruption pattern but couldn't at first because the photon was on to them at first. The crazy part is all physicists in that field will admit to not understanding how this works but it just does.

>>727500814
If you were going at the speed of light, time would stop for you until you stopped travelling at the speed of light. You wouldn't notice.

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>>727499072
Pretty sure if you got it there, the teeth would make contact with atoms in the air that dont have time to move out of the way, and because theyre frozen in time (relative to the gear), theyd have no choice but to fuse with the gear.

In another words, massive nuclear explosion.

>>727512028
Yeah, and they conviniently have detected it this year when everyone started the whole, "what is gravity?" noise. Its bullshit, because another guy claims he knows what gravity is and says its a form of magnetism. So again they dont really know, they have no real solid evidence yet that they even determined it was gravity they were detecting.

You do know Einstein was barely right about his theory of relativity. You should watch the video in >>727510590

It brings up what they use from Einsteins theory.

>>727499072
You couldn't push it that fast, the mass of the second gear would increase due to relativistic effects and hence resist the motion of the first one as it tried to get up to speed, assuming perfect conditions

>>727512385
You really think splitting a single atom causes a huge explosion?

Do you know they have a crank gun that splits atoms and all it does is, fires a small spark that hits a sheet of film of some sort or something that shows there was an atom that has been split.

You probably think nuclear reactors would blow up if they go critical. No they just get super heated to where it becomes dangerous to be near without sever burns.

>>727508364
Because the speed of light is in meters per second. The wheel isnt moving any meters in any amount of time, its just spinning in place. To convert the speed, you need to know the circumference of the wheel, which op has conveniently omitted

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>>727512231
Time doesn't stop, retard. Everything around you gets slower. Here:
>>727512261

The force required to accelerate the angular speed of an object is directly proportional to its angular moment of inertia. Basically, the angular version of F = M a. But the angular moment of inertia approaches infinity as the linear velocity of the rim of the object approaches C. So you will never get either gear to spin so fast that the rim has linear velocity C, as the force required is unbounded.

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>>727499072
they would turn into light