>wants to run government like a business Does he understand

Why don't ask this question to Hillary, she is good at running things... Or is it running away from things?

>>727050169
Hillary lost, and has been mostly forgotten at this point

>>727050169
Why are you trying to change the subject faggot no one cares about Hillary she is dead
Now focus

>people constantly criticize politicians when they don't have any experience in business
>people constantly criticize trump because he has experience in business

PICK ONE, RETARDS

>>727050988
usa usa usa!

>>727050954
You can be a politician who understands macroeconomics all at the same time

>>727049067
You're just mad angry that hillary lost

>>727050988
Funny how quickly people forget that this town did it to themselves. But hey shuck responsibility and blame the government, state gov, news, and really anyone who wasn't involved. They deserve lead poisoning. Maybe next time they won't elect democrats then beg republicans to dig them out.

>>727049067
Bullshit...if Greece can do it, so can we. Also, fuck China, those slanty eyed gook commie bastards...

>>727050988
...Except that the EPA, that organization that everyone said Trump is going to destroy just gave them a ton of money to fix their water. something that didn't happen under Obongo.

>>727051166
>Maybe next time they won't elect democrats then beg republicans to dig them out.

That's the part they all forget when they blame Trump for not having water. They've been electing democrats in Flint for like 50 years straight

>>727049067
>Does he understand...

If your question starts this way, the answer is 'no'.

>>727050954
or you could be a businessman who understood politics... but he isn't.

being one of these things with no understanding of the other makes you a bad politician.

mind you, Trump wasn't even a good businessman - mediocre at best, born rich and never got richer.

>>727051165
no I am mad angry that a clueless child got into the whitehouse.

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>>727049067
Oh you don't like trump? Blame Obama. If he didn't shove his liberal bullshit down the whole country's collective throat for 8 years, this could never have happened.

>>727051180
Greece didn't (default on their debt) they are still undergoing "austerity" measures that would make your eyes water. If you really want that in your future, and hope for it, you should try visiting Greece for a while and see how fast you change your mind...

>>727051180
>greece still broke
>needs another bailout from the eu MINUS one of its richest, the uk

this wont work

>>727051440
and this is why /b is so lulzy now

prepare your anus for 8 yrs of butthurt

It wasn't trump that racked up 19 trillion in debt. You can't blame him for this mess. Yet you do. Because you are dishonest leftist sycophants.

>>727051461
lol.

Actually blame the Democratic Party for selecting Hillary. Trump won with fewer votes than Mc\Cain and Romney got when they lost.

He didn't win. Hillary lost. She was unelectable, and they ran her anyway.

but she would still have been better than Trump...

>>727051440
its because hillary was more horrible than him
think about it, someone who is deeply rooted in politics lost to the most unqualified person in the race.

>>727051698
no just no

>>727051461

this. trump is what happens when you get a president that panders to faggots, criminals, and sjws for 8 years.

how many times did he make statements for some stupid nigger that got killed by cops for pretending to have a gun instead of cops that got killed by the niggers that had actual guns?

fucking worthless scumbag

>>727051674
4 at the most, probably less.

And /b is always lulzy - but not always for good reason.

>>727051674
>thinking you're trolling but really you're just a faggot

>created 515 businesses
>11 of them failed

Wauw wat a failure

OP is full retard.

Pretends $20 trillion is SOUND FISCAL policy and that a community organizer gave us.

OP thinks Trump had a significant number of bankruptcies because he/she is low information clown.

>>727051316
Sometimes they try to blame the right wing governor, but it was handled by his democratic Lieutenant (iirc) gov. The whole situation top to bottom was started, handled, """"fixed""" by democratic officials.

>>727051440
Yeah obama was pretty child like huh, especially compared to the glorious leader now

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>>727051787
>4 at most, probably less

kek, we're where we are at now, and idiots are still doubting Trump's resilience. I bet that every time someone says Trump will go 8 years. you have that same smug smirk you had when someone said that Turmp would be POTUS.

When the Democratic party runs a candidate that is so grossly unrelatable to the people that live in 90% of the country they want to run, that they don't even campaign in those areas, they're not going to be elected.

>pic related
>inb4 b-b-but most people live in the city why should they have to pander to country bumpkins
idk lol because not doing that lost hillary the race, bigly

>>727051564
The difference is greece has a shitty GDP. What do they have to offer the world...olives?

We have wheat, corn, natural gas...we could cripple many countries by refusing to export to them. Again Greece ain't got shit to barging with. We can say...hey chinks? You wanna eat? Then wipe our debt clean.

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>>727052077
They grow citrus fruit like oranges, lemons, limes, etc. Lamb and goats. Olives and refined, value added products from natural products. Stuff like olive oil, meat thats butchered and packaged, PDO Feta, etc.

But tbh, they really fucked up when they permanently deforested the entire country to build a navy to defeat the Persians.
They fucked up their GDP with public works programs and attempting socialism from a weak economic starting point.

Upside is tourism, and smoking hot womens.

>>727052589

>smoking hot womens
>posts a picture of a 6/10 with a fivehead and a huge chin

>>727049067
Brazil filed for bankruptcy
a lot of third world nation did when they couldn't ever pay back there debt

>>727051564
Have YOU ever been to Greece? It's not a shithole just so you know.

>>727049067
>you can't file for bankruptcy on a country like he did on his companies?
Out of 500 companies owned, 4 failed. started out with a few million, now worth billions

since OP is clearly smarter and more successful than Trump the loser, why didn't you run for president?

>>727052798
>i visited some touristy place and it looked nice
>i use this experience to measure the overall quality of the country

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>>727049067

Trump is clinically insane. He will be impeached very, very soon. It will be tremendous.

>>727052077
If we upend the current world order, where we have the biggest military and use it to help everyone else, the first casualty will be us. Probably cheaper and more safe long term to build up military and form a global alliance to conquer us than let us default.

Also if youre fine eating nothing but wheat, i guess its a good idea. The way our supply chains work now, there would be massive disruptions for a couple of years if we went through with something like that. And hyperinflation. And lets not forget we wouldn't be able to borrow money after, so we'd need a balanced budget...

>>727052884
All these fuccbois complaining about Trump turning 1M into 10B. So take that $1000 you have, and turn it into 10M.

>>727051838
>>727051787
>responses

internet working as intended

>>727052798

No the one you were replying to, but ive been to Greece twice, and it IS a shithole. It is easily the dirtiest country ive been too in the EU

>>727052938
Guess you missed where Nunes reported the actual findings of wiretapping against Trump...Or rather they just bugged every external phone that called into or received calls from Trump.

>>727052938
its going to be extremely lulzy (for me) when this never happens

>>727051747
this. The gay mafia was supported by the Satan worshiping former President and they have nearly destroyed this nation. Get the gay mafia out of government and you'll see this nation return to being Christian and whole.

> Jesus hates fags.
> Jesus hates democrats.
> Jesus hates liberals.
> Jesus hates niggers.
> Jesus hates atheists.
> Jesus hates chinks.

>>727052884
There's been over 50 and he owes most of his success to his father.

>>727053065

>Nunes

stopped right there, Boris

>>727053116
>jesus hates OP

>>727052077
Like everything you said is irrelevant, ok, so US stops supplying ching blings with wheat, corn, natural gas. Russia has all of those and by you demanding that they would wipe your debt, they would start trading with Russians making their economy flourish. In the long run with that claim you may aswell fuck yourself in the ass with a searing skewer.

>>727051698
You nigger. Trump won by a land slide. Your hippy state bussing illegals to the polls is the only reason she had more votes. BUT let me remind you, he won the electoral college.

>>727052989
Then you've never been to Romania, now that place is the asshole of EU and Europe overall, Greece at least has beautiful landscapes.

>>727053359
Exactly, thank you. If you deduct the 30 million votes from illegals, it was a record breaking victory.

>>727053116

Jesus (if he existed) was a dirty fag kike. I'd never worship a kike, or a fag.

>>727051698
He's President and you're not, so he's doing a pretty good job.

>>727053165
>get proven wrong
>blame Russia

nice work there, you almost had someone's respect

>>727052798

see

>>727052899

The touristy parts of Puerto Rico are some of the nicest tropical areas I've ever been to, but the second you stray a few miles to either side it becomes a third world shithole.

The tourist areas are designed to make you think that the country is nicer than it is, even if already nice areas it's like this so that you think it's a good country and come back. Exaggerated forms of this is how North Korea has all of their tourists go to the capital with stores full of shit and no starving children and shit.

Everyone does it, and you're a retard for falling for it

>>727053631
Then don't be in America, it's that simple. America is a Christian nation, by Christians, for Christians. Either play by Christian rules, or don't be here.

>>727051729
yeah, but at least she was not out to steal every last tax dollar for herself and her friends and family (just a reasonable amount)

>>727051461
Obama wasn't very liberal

>>727053665

I still don't understand the mental gymnastics democrats have to do to go from "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THE ELECTION CAN BE RIGGED" to "RUSSIANS RIGGED THE ELECTION"

>>727053665

Nunes was on Trump's transition team you fool

>>727051684
The debt isn't a mess. It's a mess when you can no longer service it. But Trump wants to defecit spend like crazy, so he's not making the situation any better.

>>727051230
Obama had put that in place, it just happened. It would have happened regardless of who the president was.

>>727053754

make me leave, Cletus

Wait a minute

Is that OP picture real?
>>>/sp/74911529

>>727053828

>gun control
>gay marriage
>socialized healthcare
>favors niggers that get (rightfully) shot by cops over cops shot by niggers
>refuses to even say the words "Radial Islamic Terrorism" when referring to obvious terror attacks by Mudslimes

This guy was the most cucked leftist shitlord President I've seen in my short life.

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>>727053359
>bussing illegals to the poll

>>727049067
but OP...if any country on this dying earth is/operates as a business...its the united states.

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>>727049067
Sorry Martinez

>>727053065
Incorrect. It was stuff picked up incidentally, which probably means Trump was talking to some bad hombres. That's why they're cancelling public hearings.

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>>727053860
and the guys saying trump is wrong were in the Obama administration you FOOL

>>727053946
Trump will send you to Mexico soon enough. Count on that.

>>727052780
>and that's a good option
World Bank/IMF shill detected

>>727053829
Russians didn't rig the election. They put their hand on it in a way that may have compromised a major candidate. Trump may very well have won without Russian interference, but whether or not that is true, if anyone in or close to the white house feels like they owe Putin a favor, that is a problem.

An investigation is in order based on what we know. I would be happier if Trump came out blameless even though I think he's an awful leader, because it will be better for the country in the long run.

Not gonna deny that some people just wanna see him taken down just for the schadenfreude, but if you don't get that then why the fuck are you on /b/?

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>>727053829
same way they can pic related

they only pretend to be sane

>>727053989
So you doubt that 30 million illegals didn't want to stay in America illegally, so they did not participate in helping screw over the vote against a guy that is going to remove them?

Sure...

>>727051935
oh come on be honest - the casinos didn't go bankrupt.

he ran up huge debts on them, deliberately, took an enormous payment out of them (almost a billion inot his pocket), sold the stock off for half a billion he didn't declare as income, and declared a loss of a billion, so he never had to pay tax again.

gain to Trump about two billion dollars, loss to all his investors adn workforce - who cares they are just suckers.

now that may be a way of making money, but I would hardly call it good, morally or in any business terms.

it was all legal (just) then although most of it is illegal now, but it still means he is a scumbag con artist and fraud, even though he got away with it.

>>727051987
Trump gave funding to flint. Look it up first pic with trump in it is bs.

>>727054271
you can't win the election then be this much of a faggot, it's illegal

>>727054233
>all those repubs chanting Benghazi for years
What's good for the goose is good for the gander

Probably won't find anything though, just like the Benghazi bullshit

>>727054273
So he knew how to make things work, does that make him immoral or a fraud? No.

It makes him smart. Stop your butthurt and get on the winners train. Everything Trump does turns to gold and you just can't accept that.

>>727054271
Read your question again. Double negatives are a bitch

>>727051944
pretends the 20 trillion was not largely run up by Bush and the cost of dealing with Bush's wars and Bush's trickledown policies and Bush#s neglect to manage the economy in any way. That it was bailing out the banks that Bush failed to regulate (and yes I know that Clinton de-regulated and he bears some blame for that) and that without running up that debt the whole economy would have tanked so hard that we wouldn't even be able to see the edge of the crater from where we would be now.

but let's not give the nigger credit for having turned the economy round and reduced the rate of borrowing and not having destroyed the entire American economy...

>>727054273
In fact, name anything that's failed under Trump as president.

>>727051987
>compared to the glorious leader now

nice attempt at a troll, padawan, but you have much to learn.

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>>727054492
You can't be serious

>>727050442
But you still seem to have a hard-on for her

>>727054544
You didn't name anything, you proved my point.

>>727054545
No one seems to mention her but trumptards

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>>727049067
4 businesses go bankrupt out of almost 600. That's less than a 1% fail rate.
How does it feel OP knowing Trump has been more successful and will be remembered longer than you ever will??

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trump bros we need your help

bump the trump thread to make them mad

>>>/sp/74911529

>>727054585
Okay, repeal and replace promise - failed
Immigration ban - fail x2

There's two. Better crank up that excuse machine

>>727054388
Well, if they find nothing after a detailed look, then it would be nice if it didn't dominate political rhetoric from the left. There are other things I'd rather focus on, honestly.

If they find something damning, I'll be calling my senator and rep every day asking them to take appropriate action.

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>>727054136

right after he repeals Obamacare

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>Implying it matters who is President
>Implying the Federal Reserve fucks don't run everything
>Implying politics is anything more than a dog and pony show to keep the general public distracted

>>727054545
Disliking Trump isn't equivalent to loving Hillary you retard.

>>727049067
This is some very fresh cringebread, get-the-fuck-outta-here-pasta too, muck fuck

>>727049067
Mmm
Salty faggot libtard tears.

>>727052029
>lost hillary the race, bigly

a> bigly is not a real world, but the sort of babble that Trump uses.
b> she lost by a small margin. Trump had a small margin int he Electoral College, adn no margin in the popular vote. she lost, yes, and deservedly so, but he did not win. and sadly, given the choice between them, She was the lesser of two evils. and anyone that does not see that is either a billionaire - for they are doing very nicely under Trump and will make out hugely when his tax "reforms" and handouts to big business kick in, or is sadly not rationally considering the facts.

given that I suspect you are not a billionaire, I think you have to face the fact that you lost.

>>727051461
>>727053828
>Obama wasn't very liberal
I agree with that but he did pander to the liberals who voted for him.

>>727054643
>repeal and replace - Obama designed the situation to fail, everyone already knows this.

>Immigration ban - liberals are against progress because they want their 30 million illegal voters in the nation for a CHANCE to win in 4 years.

If two people are in a car, the passenger grabs the wheel and causes the car to hit a tree, it was not the drivers fault for the collision.

>>727054763
Its actually "big league" lr2english

>>727054835
>Trump a good boy he dindu nuffin
Excuses rolled in just as anticipated. Thanks.

>>727054907
Only 14-year olds talk like that though.

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>>727051461
FINALLY
FUCKING SOMEONE ON THIS SHITHOLE OF A BOARD THAT UNDERSTANDS THERES AN ACTUAL FUCKING PENDELUM EFFECT TO THIS KIND OF SHIT
LIKE JESUS FUCKING CHRIST HOW STUPI CAN THE REST OF YOU FAGGOTS BE TO NOT REALIZE.
IF YOU SHOVE A AGENDA DOWN A THROAT
IT WON'T SWALLOW, JUST BITE THE DICK OFF AND DECLARE REVOLUTION.
ITS AS SIMPLE AS RECOGNIZING THE COUNTERCULTURE AND THE
ESTABLISHMENT
NOT FUCKING MATH.

>>727054915
Debate ended, just as expected. Thanks.
In the words of our dear leader, Loser.

Better than Hillary running a country like a kitchen.

If anyone can defend Trumps constant easily research-able lies, I'd be surprised. Forget left or right, Hillary or Trump, how can anyone stand behind someone who lies to them as if they're fucking morons.

>>727054996
This is some pretty bad sad/cringebread dude

>>727052077
what would happen to the dollar if you defaulted? Not a single country would still regard it as the reserve currency, or as a stable currency to trade in. Oil would no longer be traded in dollars. probably the Euro would take over, and the dollar would go into freefall. (not british pounds sterling, as post Brexit they are in isolation and their economy is going to be screwed for decades)

at which point your debt, which is in dollars, would become worthless, so you are out of debt. but you would be reduced to bartering your corn for all the goods you import, or buying in Euros, or gold (which would now be priced in Euros)

Good luck rebuilding your economy internally,and establishing trade links again...

I would expect hyperinflation, mass unemployment ad basically Wiemar Germany style collapse.

convenient you already have a nazi for president.

>>727049067
You can, actually.

>>727052798
not a shithole, just massive unemployment, rampant corruption, and everything depends on the tourist dollar. You want to eat in hospital - better have a family to bring you food...

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>>727051230
You're embarrassing yourself

>>727053885
Dude trade policy right now basically is USA spreads wide and every other country takes their turn. Just look it up. I honestly think Trump is going to be good for our economy and debt

>>727052938
Narcissistic disorder is not insanity.

just very dangerous for those in his power.

>>727051230
I know this is bait, but it's hard to tell with Trump supporters.

>>727052976
give me the billion that New York gave him, and the 500 million his dad gave him, and I will do my best...

you believe that shit story about a small loan?

Oh yeah, and contacts with all daddy's mates and corrupt New York officials who paid for the whole of his first scheme and gave him the profits tax free.

con artist from the start.

>>727049067
sure you can OP. and soon you have to, just let it go man. usa had its run, not much was achieved and and now it's finally time to end the show and turn off the lights

I feel like Trump should just disband the NSA, FBI, CIA etc. He doesn't seem to like the whole cloak and daggers thing, especially if he can't control it.

I mean seriously, nobody seems to care that RNC systems may have been compromised and that another country may have private emails from our citizens (or even the leaks, why not just go after the podesta leaks, if only to see who did it??) anyway, he is actively disuading people from investigating leads and in general seems sick of this secret stuff that he can know about but can't talk about.

How long before he nicks the intelligence community and puts all that money into the military? Who needs intel when you can have bigger guns?

>>727051230
that actually happened under obongo, he wrote check that is now being cashed.

>>727051409
He's been very successful, this meme bitter left keeps pushing shows they don't understand business.

>>727053359
on a 55% turnout he won 46% of the vote. So less than 26% of the people voted for him

yeah. landslide.

yuge.

more like molehill falling over.

yes, legally POTUS, but barely holds any mandate for any action let alone country changing ones.

>>727055116
>This is some pretty bad sad/cringebread dude
The only thing sad or cringey is your shitpost.

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>>727055548

quite possibly the most retarded post I've ever read on /b/

>>727055293
well thats kinda mean. thats just a different culture. I'm kinda laughing cuz I just remembered, many countries say similar things about how non-stop international flights from the US don't include meals.

In China for example, beer is free on planes. And soda. And headphones.

Obviously I'd expect Greece to be shitty, its what they committed to in austerity. But some things are just cherry picking. Like needing loved ones that visit you before you get to eat while in the hospital.

>>727051698
>she would've been better than Trump
So starting WWIII with a first strike against Russia would be better than Trump?
Face it, she's not just unelectable - she's completely insane, as are her supporters.
I'm not saying Trump is good - what I AM saying is that a mostly sane retard is better than someone who belongs in an insane asylum.

>>727055160
Do you actually believe what you just wrote?

>>727053934
>Obama put in that policy to go through almost 4 months after he left office

>>727051698
She was a firm believer in blacmlivesmatter in stopping keystone in hurting coal and businesses with more regulations. So far Trump is doing very well and deporting wetbacks as well.

>>727053644
learn to logic. "so" implies a conclusioon based ont eh premises (p1 he is president p2 I am not.) there is no reason to conclude c1 he is doing a good job

you need a further premise that p3 anyone other than me would be doing a good job, including Skippy the Cooking Apple

this is clearly a false assertion, and so easily dismissed, even if you had put it forward to make a logical argument.

>>727051729
Trump is actually the most qualified person to run in decades. He's actually ran successful businesses.

>>727051564
Greece -did- declare bankruptcy, but the EU is keeping them aflot with "austerity" measures.

>>727051787
16 when you count President pences two terms.

>>727055838
shhh, I'm still waiting for him to get blamed for wars in North Korea and Russia. Possibly even China. That way, no matter how the wars go, we can always just blame Trump and tell people itll be different when we have our next president.

>>727050169

>this immediate deflection

She lost, get over it and focus on the present.

>>727053304
you talk like flourishing economy in Russia would be a bad thing. I mean, what is it with you just not wanting to get along with Russia?

>>727053754
wrong, wrong and wrong.

please leave my deist founded secular beacon of hope and scientific advancement and go live in a iron age shithole.

>>727055838

This theory is retarded.
Criticizing abuses to human right is not a missile strike. Clinton had issues, but legitimately thinking that she was going to start a legit war with a nuclear power is dumb.

>>727056175
youre right, i'd much rather Putin lead the free world (oh the irony there) than Trump. (Trump doesn't want the job anyway)

>>727054763
>small margin in the electoral college
Nigga he won by 50+ ev's

Not to mention when it came down to the vote, like 5 of her electors changed their votes to Trump.

>>727055977
A liberal talking about logic, what a joke.

>Thinking Trump is the problem.

You do realize it's the entire GOP that is the problem.

They can't do anything right, the dems at least seem to know what issues need to be addressed but the GOP thinks the only problems are money related.

>>727056257
This nation was founded on biblical principals, you may not like it, but it is true.

>>727056302
sorry dude, it's a historically small margin of victory. There really is no room for debate here, these are just facts.

>>727054239
>Citation* America voted against him becoming president.

>>727054915
>Hey that disastrous Obamacare clone bill is didn't pass. Take that trump.
That wasn't even his bill you fuckhead. He was the one who told the GOP to pull it before it went to a vote.
>Immigration ban x2
Once, faggot, the second push is still going through the courts.

>>727056360
Agreed the GOP is the problem, but so are the Dems - Trump is going to fix all of that however.

So far so good, his cuts and eo's have already reduced the debt by 100 billion. He has gotten gurnatees for create 3 million jobs in only 3 months.

Trump is doing very well no matter what the liberal media says.

>>727056325
oh wow, fucking great point you made there.

>>727055091
You mean every politician ever?

>>727055160
Good thing the debt is reversing after Trump's budget plan.

>>727056375
You this gullible? What a clown. Just keep believing the same Shit you have your whole life. No way it could be wrong.

>>727056464
Glad you agree, getting your liberal head out of your ass one comment at a time I see...

>>727056375

This nation was found on john locke, while although a christian and saw concepts of modern liberalism in christian ideas, was fundamentally more modern, and forsaw the state of a healthy democracy as one that grows and learns over time. Along with many other more modern ideas.

>>727056435
Obamacare wasn't Obamas bill and he pulled it only because it would have been voted down. He should have told them to wait to fix the bill before jumping on it but I am pretty sure the repubtards know it's only a matter of time before Trump does something bad enough to be impeached.
>Or they already know he is going to be.

>>727056276
And what would be so bad in Putin? Somebody has to do it, you can't have the entire world running around without t any direction. The country "leading" should be a super power, should it not? Would you rather have a punch of land stealing chincks at the helm?

>>727056540
God delivered this nation to be the bastion of hope for the Christian minority to escape persecution and oppression. God also sent us Trump, to return this nation to its rightful condition.

>>727056268
She vowed to create a no fly zone over syria, you dumb cunt. That would directly infringe on Russia's alliance with them. That would very likely lead us into military conflict with one of the three superpowers in the world.

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Guys I just want to say that /b/ and /pol/ are a terrible place to discuss politics, and Reddit is even worse.
Talk to your friends/family/co workers, listen to the radio, and do your own research.

It's a baby holding a finger

>>727056683
PAH-ha-ha-ha.

>>727056717
Go back to fucking ponies, pussy.

>>727056435
It's funny because you think he's capable of writing a bill

>>727056426
It's larger than both of Bush Jr's wins, and almost as large as Obama's win over mccain, you dumb shcmuck.

>>727056798
Or even reading one.

>>727056704
and he vowed to label China a currency manipulator on day one.... campaign promises aren't real promises

and russia isn't a superpower. Even if Russia were, I think there's like 7 total.

>>727056798
It's funny because you completely missed the point.

>>727056683
This is every American in a nutshell

>>727056657
Considering Trump was talking about single payer health system 2 months ago, why the fuck would he let Obamacare 2.0 be passed? Dumb as fuck.

Brown people are so scary!Help us daddy tRump!

>>727056865
>Russia's not a superpower
You are officially retarded.
>Labeling a country a currency manipulator is now the same as a breach of alliance (eg an act of war)
Please, for the good of mankind, sterilize yourself.

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This kills republicucks

>>727051316
Yep democratic major but a republican governor that rerouted the river that supplies flint with water. What is a mayor going to do about that? Sue? That's what they have already been doing but the governor waited till the feds stepped in instead of fixing the problem

>>727054388
except the Benghazi thing was bullshit, and this isn't...
and there is more to look at - how much illegal funding from other countries did Trump's team accept...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/

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>>727050169

>pulling a Conway

>>727053965
You might as well call trump a liberal then if 3 things makes him a liberal. Trump wanted all of that or has said to want all of that.

>>727056704

Calm down, sperg. You're going to hurt yourself. First of all, this isn't the same thing as shooting a missile. No-fly zones are broken often, and although a international conflict, is surface level. has been negotiated through before. It's also dumb to think she would implement a no-fly zone without diplomatically strong arming the Russian government with the same processes the democrats have been rolling with for 8 years, cooperative trade sanctions with other western nations. You can call this ineffective, but your dumb ass needs to recognize that you bought into hard right-wing media that sold you a cartoon version of who Clinton is. Is she authentic, entirely truthful, and perfect stateswoman, not in my opinion. But buying this idea that she's excited to go to war with the second most powerful nuclear arsenal is fucking retarded.

>>727055341
You got a source for that besides "look it up"?

>>727057160
http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/01/michigan_truth_squad_who_appro.html

It was a combination of the city of Flint, the democratic treasurer, and the emergency manager of the state of michigan.

But i suppose it was also the governor's fault that the democratic mayor of Detroit ran it into the ground and spent half the cities reserves on hookers.

>>727049067
Greece declared bankruptcy and go the rest of the EU to pay their bills, if we Americans work out a system like that it would be pretty sweet

>>727057307

>3 things
>list of 5

Sorry anon but you're retarded, go back to kindergarten

>>727057047
you sure throw around your breach of alliances. And the point is, she would have to get congress to pass it and then talk out logitstics with the UN. Theres a 90% chance she wasn't going to get a no fly zone over syria. But no youre right, this is better. Russia is assembling the world's largest alliance of dictators and nothing can go wrong there.

But just admit you don't care about the rest of the world and move on. Nobody voted for Trump because he would be good for foreign relations. If you actually cared, you'd know that Putin constantly warned his party against getting their hopes up over Trump's victory.

>>727057212
>Foreign funding
Nigga, this has already been largely debunked, only like 10 to 20% of his campaign was on foreign funding, while Clinton's was almost 80%.

>>727055341
new so fake, even the deleted emails couldn't support them.

>>727057363
>No-fly zones are broken often
So Russia would be (rightfully) breaking a no fly zone that the US imposed, and the US will do -what- exactly? Impose sanctions? Already did. Didn't stop Russia before.

>>727057577
For the record, exaggeration kills your credibility. You can say it was special interests, you can say it was big banks, you can say it, whatever. But to say 80% came from overseas? That makes you sound cray cray.

>>727055743
However he seems to be operating under the assumption that he has a mandate.

>>727057575
>World's largest alliance of dictators
Red scare pls go.

>>727057706
and your next logical step is that we'd go to war with Russia? It'd take a narcissistic idiot as POTUS with no experience in politics to do something that stupid.

>>727055914
Coal output has been steady while employment has dropped. Thank the free market for that.

>>727057375
So you come to 4chan.org/b/ for your information? Can't find it on your own? Key words like "Trade Policy" too much for you? Don't trust it from anyone besides Anon?

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>>727049067

I think Trumpanzees are underestimating the blow to his credibility with his health care fail. Trump didn't become president because alt-right online posers and racist hillbilly redneck trash voted for him but because normal people who might normally have voted democrat decided to give him a chance.

So far he had the the nimbus of political invincibility because whatever scandal he went through he still won. That's over now. He lost and he lost big time. He got punched in the nose really hard politically. The health care fuck up was his personal Stalingrad.

>>727057768
hmmm, theyre the ones pulling hardest for Iran, they saved Assad in Syria, they're making energy deals with North Korea, and they're trying to pry Turkey away from NATO. I don't know a dictator club thats bigger, do you?

>>727056175
A criminal who murders/kidnaps opposition leaders and massacres his own people to justify invasions? No thanks. Plus they've got nothing we want.

>>727057821
>Break no-fly zone
>Commit act of war
>Impose sanctions that are already in effect
>We'd be the ones to decide to go to war
You don't seem to understand that Russia is its own sovereign nation, and doesn't need the US's permission to go to war.

>>727057961
red scare pls go

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Defend this republicucks

>>727056175
yeah.... thats like saying, a flourishing economy in North Korea would be a good thing. On that note, lets send Iran billions of dollars... then we'll be best friends and live happily ever after!

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>>727056375
>has never read the writings of the founding fathers

They were deists, not Christians of the modern backwater kind. People came here for religious freedom, not to set up a taliban.

>>727051045
This

>>727054233
How much do you complain when the media spews constant lies and wants to shade everything a conservative does in the most cynical worst light in order to get a democrat elected? You don't think that ever affects our elections?

>>727058122
>This

This

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>>727049067
Didn't Greece do that tho? And like. A lot of countries. Really there's been many vassal states throughout history. Iunno it's hard to put the cold hard consequences into a magic made up system.

>>727057963
And you think what? Do you think that we are innocent, is that it, that we dindu nuffin? Our hands are no cleaner than Putin's. Say what you will about Trump and his policies but he at least had the backbone to admit the facts.

>>727056435
He couldn't even explain the provisions of the bill when he was trying to drum up support for 2 days

>>727054454
>does that make him immoral or a fraud?
yes.

he knew how to cheat his investors and how to rape his company for cash, and how to not declare income, and how evade tax,

smart, sure. moral? A good skill set for a president?

and let us agree that he agreed that he was complicit in fraud over Trump University. and that he used his charity funds to make bribes, and pay personal fines, and buy himself presents - all illegal.

scammer, and now commander in thief. He will steal every last penny he can grab, and go out of office either in handcuffs or or a gold plated limo, paid for by the mugs who voted for him, while they shit themselves to death in tin shacks in the rustbelt and proudly declare they stood up to Wahington and the corrupt politicians by voting for a man who had so much money he didn't need to bow to the moneyed interests.

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>>727049067

>>727058065
so basically because we were hysterical before, we can't ever accuse them of doing bad things or being bad for our interests?

Hmm.... its almost like how white people oppressed blacks for so long through being successful that we have to give them every advantage now. Because that's fair. And you're a liberal nut.

>>727056683
dis bait be gud

>>727052077
>>727053304
We don't need to demand they wipe our debt. We control our own currency, unlike Greece. We can print more dollars. If Greece were smart, they'd leave the EU, cuz they can't print more Euros as part of it. Lending is an investment, which is why lenders charge variable interest. The EU made a bad investment in Greece and needs to suffer the consequences.

>>727049067
>Does he understand that you can't file for bankruptcy on a country like he did on his companies?
>challenge.accepted

>>727054668
Later this year you mean?

>>727054743
didn't notice any tears. Just facts. but you can't handle the truth, can you?

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>>727058170

>>727058195
Kinda like how Pelosi was telling people to vote for Obamacare without knowing what was in it?

>>727058186
So we unite and become an international crime syndicate? We should be striving to be better, regardless of our past. You're like an alcoholic giving up because he's fucked up his whole life.

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>>727058084
you are just embarrassing yourself. north korea is not a super power and Iran will never be supported by us. but Russia is and the countries that lead the free world should be super powers. USA at the moment is too weak to handle the burden alone after all obongo, that if we wan't a super power to act as a lead it has to be Russia

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sorry hillary
you lose again

>>727058464
Exactly like that. I hold no love for Pelosi either

>>727058186
You realize Russia would say Putin's hands are clean right? Nobody in their right mind would denigrate their own country.

Name one thing you think Russia has done wrong and I will respond with logic that I've heard from them. NATO and democracy is the enemy, Russia is just trying to preserve and protect its own people. But there are some that won't stop until Russia is submissive and wasted. And therefore we have to do whatever it takes to shield our people wherever these evils threaten us. And sometimes that means taking actions other countries may not understand. But Russia for Russians first and we will do what it takes.

>>727049067
Do you realize the US has been ran like a business for the past 50 years? Fucking retard, that is why we needed HIM in Office, 3 trillion to the economy in 60 days, record high employment, so on and so forth, liberals go kill yourself.

>>727058362
Where did he refer to trying to declare bankruptcy for this country? Debt is your worry now? It's good we've had the last president to lower it right? Already summer?

>>727058555
Stop stealing trips Ivan. The bitch lost. I know you want to get maximum use of the memes in the FSB repository, but tell your comrades to ramp up meme production.

>>727058561
The difference is, Obamacare passed. The GOP bill did not. He -is- the one who told them to pull it without letting it go to vote, and is now publicly criticizing them for pushing such a weak bill.

>>727058487
>you are just embarrassing yourself. north korea is not a super power and Iran will never be supported by us. but Russia is and the countries that lead the free world should be super powers. USA at the moment is too weak to handle the burden alone after all obongo, that if we wan't a super power to act as a lead it has to be Russia

Interesting point of view. I don't think even Russia has decided what it would do in that case. They're probably not going to just keep the bench warm and hand it back to us when we're stronger through.

>>727050169
Still "But her emails!!!" Deflecting and blaming and not running the country like it should be run.

>>727054239
Love the picture; had to save it. 100% true, and priceless. These dumb liberals are hypocrites.

>>727058484
well uniting with Russia would be smartest thing after pointlessly combating them and loosing tax payer money for years. and we aren't really striving for better and taking lessons from our past, not really. or have you just conveniently forgotten the detainment camps, drone bombings, wiretappings, global internet surveilance and rampant corruption on home soil?

>>727058773

top kek

This is the kind of thing you'd see posted on a political satire facebook page and a bunch of retarded liberals would like it

>>727056945
Considering Trump has taken every side possible on every issue.

He is a moron who doesn't understand anything so he just says the first thing that comes to mind.

>>727054492
AHCA

>>727059024
and the second, and sometimes the third. And then he surrounds himself with a bunch of people who tell him he's still the smartest man on earth.

>>727059024
How much do you hate America today? Be honest. Don't hold back.

>>727051180

Greece had the EU fucknuts.

>>727051674
>Eight years of winning

Oh lord, if the last 60 days is an indication, we'll be in mars by 2020.
(Sarcasm)

>>727059002
I hope you aren't the same person that laughed at me for suggesting Trump would disband the CIA/FBI/NSA

Now you seem to be saying, bend over and accept it, there's no point to resisting.

>>727059252

We're already going to mars, so take off that sarcasm, retard.

>>727059167
Don't attempt to conflate, my man. It's our right to voice opinions and to even be critical of our government. That doesn't translate to hate.

I know Putin doesn't allow you that luxury, so take your FSB ass somewhere else.

>>727059203
You are a bad troll or seriously retarded

>>727059167
no matter how much you may want it to be, Trump is not America.

>>727058596
>You realize Russia would say Putin's hands are clean right? Nobody in their right mind would denigrate their own country.
to be this retarded. I said Trump admitted our unethical past and defended Putin, like he should. Trump is capable to admit that we also have wronged and that we shouldn't judge Putin for the same shit we have done ourselves.

By any logic Russia is just trying to preserve and protect it's people, like any sane country would do. you can't demonize Russia for just wanting the best for it's people, that's what obongo should have done also.

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>>727059326
Alright alright. There. Happy?

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>>727054489
Turning the economy around?

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>>727059416
You arent fooling anyone.

>>727058902
and should they be forced to do it then? if a CEO makes his company flourish should he just hand over his seat for the next one who wants to try? you are just too tied up with the idea that usa HAS to be the one to hold the seat, instead of giving it to someone who can fill the role and work with them

>>727059389
I'm just saying, Russia would say America has done bad things, Russia has not. They are not in Ukraine. They did not tamper with our elections. And they do not silence dissenting voices. They like teddy bears, babies, and christmas.

They are fighting terrorism in the world. And they are a leader in human rights and economic geniuses.

And no this isn't sarcasm, this is RT.com

>>727059167
I hate the rich assholes who ruin everything because they want to be royalty.

America is not the best country and is getting worse and worse because no one wants to admit that the only reason America gained so much power and wealth was we were the only first world country not to have are industry and infrastructure destroyed during WW2.

Everything is turning to shit because the rest the first world has modern infrastructure and industry.

>MFW America could be the best country in the world if we would just stop wasting money on a useless military and welfare for the rich.

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>>727059547
Nice try

>>727054835
>Obama designed the situation to fail, everyone already knows this.

but Trump was too incompetent to overcome this known problem... yeah

>>727059203
L0L Occupy Democrats is one of the most shit liberal media propaganda out there. This picture was biased. There were a lot more people there. Have you ever been to a trump rally? I have, so many people there that they couldn't let more in due to "fire hazards". More than 10k people had to go home. So keep getting blinded by this Liberal propaganda, because all you Democrats have is the FAKE NEWS, to lean on. L0L

>>727054454
So you'll call him smart when he defrauded the American people of their tax money?
You're a fucking idiot.

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>>727059262
why do you people always insist on fighting? for a party of inclusiveness you sure spend a lot of effort to make sure that countries won't get along

>>727059667
> A pic of the crowd several hours before the actually inauguration started

You think you are being funny but you aren't. You are playing stupid on purpose or are seriously delusional.

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How has Obamacare failed?

>It hasn't, the only issues were the website when it first started. Not a single person has mentioned how it has failed.

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>>727059879

>>727059899
I lost my insurance. My premiums went up too damnn high. It cost me 5 grand to fix my sons broken pinky. Fucking ridiculous.

>>727059962
nice fake timestamp, buddy.

>>727054966
Get that dick out of your mouth Cletus

>>727059848
lmfao comparing something from 11am to something from 8am, is biased. Do you know how many people can swarm in, in 3 hours? Keep telling yourself your liberal propaganda isn't biased and fake. Go to your safe place with all the Refugees. Maybe then, you'll get raped and beheaded, and there will be one less dumb fuck like you around.

>>727055886
yes. Why don't you? because you have no grasp of international monetary systems?

you think that the current favorable position of the USA dollar as the stable currency and means of exchange for all major markets would last one day after a default on USA debt?

freefall. And splat.

The USA is "too big to fail", but too big to be propped up if it does fail.

germany can hold up Greece, but there is no comparison in scale to what would be needed if US declared a default.

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>>727060042
>>727060068

>>727059629
and you say that they are terrorist, won't care about human rights at all and are just a punch of idiots?

Of course Russia would try to present itself on the best possible light, but that doesn't mean that we have to judge them so harshly when we ain't any better ourselves.

>>727059660
Baby boomers were handed the keys to the kingdom and completely fucked us over.
They're the real problem.

>>727059962
the sad thing is they keep insisting he had more people. They're not saying people had to work, or trains were congested, or that liberal police stopped them from going in.... no, they're adament that there were more people in that field in 2017 than 2009....

even though Trump himself admitted that he meant including TV and streaming online.

>>727059899
everyone can see into the future apparently. And apparently they see no solutions except to burn the whole thing down... or parts of it... or just in name only.... anyway, we can't save it so we should just kill it.

>>727060115
How many times are you going to post a picture taken at different times of the day? L0L you are dumber than most Democrats.

>>727060115
Keep posting the same pic. Really makes you look smart and shows how you understand facts and proof.

>>727060008
So what?, I bet $5k is pocket change for you.

>Only upper middle class saw any real increase in premiums.

>>727060207
That's Bannon's view of the federal government pretty much. He came up with it during one of his alcoholic blackouts.

>>727053499
You people are beyond retarded and delusional. 30 million illegal votes???!?? Really fucking delusional

>>727059303
Sure. Not with Trump controlling the budget

>>727060266
>>727060234
You two faggots are probably no better mentioning Hillary's loss errday. Fucking cucks.

>>727060126
Nope they never had the keys, none of us did.
It's always been the ultra rich in control.

>Each one fighting each other over who can horde the most wealth.

>>727060282
I make $50,000 a year. 5 grand aint pocket change. I love how you just assumed and judged me based off of nothing.

>>727055914
supporting coal is like supporting the horse drawn carriage industry.

bad business.

a bubble is being run up on coal and oil, to screw the last few billions from it, before the reality kicks in. Once Trumps anti science agenda is discredited and we return to sane climate change policy, it will become obvious that we cannot burn 80% of the known reserves. that 80% of the known reserves are therefore worthless. they are not worth a dollar a barrel, never mind fifty. they are worth zero.

same for coal.

at which time the oil and coal companies value plummets and they are exposed as a great fraud. sadl a lot of investors will be caught out on this - but you can bet that the billionaires funding the bubble now will have sold out long before and it will be the little guys, and the countries, and the pension funds of the little guys, who are left with the worthless stocks.

anyone shilling for coal and oil is a shill.
like you

>>727051230
>autistic trump shilling intensifies

>>727059303
But mars is such a waste of money.

>We need a fucking moonbase already, it would begin actual manned deep space exploration.

>>727060354
Haha i didnt support either candidate , you stupid cocksucker. If you can't handle facts leave, and dont cry like a bitch

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>>727060115

>>727060397
now now, if i could grow an inch for every inch I took from someone else, I would keep taking until I couldn't fit in my pants anymore. Poor people would be money grubby and corrupt too if you gave them a chance. So taking food from pigs and giving it to swine won't do anything except screw with the middle class.

>>727051230
I thought he cut the EPA budget by 64%

>EPA only exists to stop rich assholes from ruining the environment.

>>727060434
I made $12,000 last year. $50,000 sounds pretty good to me.

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>>727060559

>>727055995
which does not qualify him to run for office.

and if you do not know why this is so, then that just goes to show how ignorant of politics you are. (also, he does not run his businesses - he gets other people to do that. Sadly he has been really bad at getting people to run his government for him - bad picks all round )

>>727056046
thanks for that. I needed a laugh.

>>727060696
see, if there was actual corruption in government, he could just pay people to vote the way he wanted. Or if he was a dictator, they'd just rubber stamp everything.

>>727059104
I already responded to that, Obama designed it to fail. Trump already made that public information.

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>>727060134
>>727060234
>>727060266
>>727060562

>>727060682
Typical liberal. Throws out baseless insults and claims with no facts or real evidence. "I don't give a fuck!" That's why you keep replying to me?

>>727060606
Pretty much, the trick is to make it hard to become rich and stay rich.

It should be as difficult to become rich as it is to stay rich.

One only becomes wealthy is to take wealth from those who earned it.

>>727054271
How though? You think people just walked up to the poll and flashed their fake id that didn't match a SS and we're told to go ahead and grab as many ballots as possible and fill them all out ? Like, your mind if filled with shit if you think that every illegals is a l33t hacker and hacked the polling machines to insert their votes.

Or maybe you think illegals can vote and are registered as democrats because you read it on therealconservativenews.com

Or maybe you're just a troll but I doubt it, and I know you're just gonna think I'm a shill but I just want you to know that you're retarded and most people here- yes even on 4chan /b/ the shithole gutter of the internet- thinks you're retarded

>>727059710
It was designed to fail without particular corrections which the Satan worshipers (obama and clinton) knew. They kept it private to be a safety net in case a republican was elected. They allowed this timebomb to go off to attack Trump because of his Christian values.

>>727056325
and what fault in the logic did you find?

oh, none

because you don't know what logic means, or because I was correct.

your silly statements are not valid arguments.

please try harder

>>727060855
I don't think he is the anon you think he is.

>>727060658
That's bc I work for myself and I'm not a lazy nigger like you.

>>727060911
jesus... now trump has christian values???! just annoint him a saint already

>>727056441
hi Ivan, you need to use spellcheck more often. have a ruble

>>727056486
nope. That is yet another lie that the Republicans have spent a long time spreading - to cover their other lies.

>>727056607
>Blah blah liberals blah blah I'm so smart look at me! I am not a liberal therefore I am not retarded! Because liberals = retards and me no = liberal so me no = retard! Checkmate libtards can't argue with this logic!

>>727060974
I'm confused, I thought you were for the working middle class who can't make enough money to get by in life? Now you're bashing me because I can't get enough hours at my job??

Well then my response to you is, work a little harder and you'll have enough money to pay your premiums and so you can stop mooching off the other good hearted americans out there.

>>727056682
Ivan. please type more slowly and use spell checker.

have a ruble

>>727056704
she said in the debate that she would negotiate a no fly zone with russia . the whole "she will start WW3" meme was just russian trolls from the disinformation Factory last summer. and you fell for it.

unless you are a russian troll back again - alot of the posts here are looking like the ones they made last summer.

hmmn, maybe the Putin bots are back again now that Trump is in trouble with the russia investigations..

>>727061164
I dont mooch off of anyone are you kiding? Where did you get that shit from? I don't take any kind of charity or support from the government. I didnt bash you either. I said "nigger"... this is /b/ for fucks sake.

>>727057563
wrong wrong and wrong.

try harder.

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>>727053174

>>727057577
nope it has not been debunked, and your 80% figure is just so ludicrous that it barely makes sense.

sources, I dare you.

read the article - Trumps team had the method to take and launder donations for "influence2 in place. Hillary's team told them to go take a jump.

who do you think was taking the foreign bribes?

Trump

>>727057744
yuge mandate, biggest ever. yeah.

he is operating under any number of delusions...