What did he mean by this? Are we rich by global standards?

>>726914137
he was schizophrenic. They all were. Dont mean shit, bro.

The eye of the needle refers to the top of the arch of the small gateways in cities back then. A camel would have to bow its head to pass. Basically rich men must humble themselves.

A richfag can afford to make a needle with an eye twice the size of a camel, while a poorfag cannot.

So it's just pointing out that poorfags have to behave because they have no other means to get into Heaven, while richfags have many options that to poorfags would seem impossible.

>>726914137
A rich man has many material things to cling to.

Clinging to the world prevents you from finding god within you.

You can't worship god and mammon at the same time.

It means early Christians were socialists. Don't build up a mountain of money and watch people starve around you, death is equal to every man, stuff like that.

What sort of faggot wants to sit on a cloud playing a harp, while worship their asstard god for eternity.

>>726914137
That power corrupts.

Atheist socialists love to bring up this passage, but it's the following lines that are important:
>When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

The lesson is put your faith in God, not that having money is bad.

This was a classic problem with translation. The European monks who translated the bible in the 11th century from ancient Greek didn't know what a camel was. They had never seen a camel. The original word was "Kambyses:, an ancient city in the Persian Empire. The parable means that a rich man should look through the eyes of his servants if he wishes to purchase land from them.

>>726914607
Where did you get that description from?

Sunday school?

>>726914380
That's false, there's no evidence of such gate.
*large creature that lives in the area* going through the eye of a needle was a popular saying back in the day.

>>726914970
Are you forgetting the part before hand, where Jesus tells the rich guy to sell all his possesions and give to the poor?

>>726914978
[citation needed]

>>726914978
You know, if that were the case, there would be some proof, since the original text are easy to come by.
I never knew i'll get to call fake news when talking about the Bible.

>>726915199
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambyses_II


Enjoy

>>726914607
When I die, fuck it, i want to go to hell.

>>726914978
And you believe that, but you can't see how it's just an excuse rich people made?

>>726914137
Im far from religious but if i were to take this seriously then id first have to ask what is meant by the term "rich". Back a thousand years ago and more id think owning your own house could be considered rich.

>>726915181
>with God all things are possible
You can't put a camel through the eye of a needle. A rich man can't just rock up to heaven and say "hey I'm rich, let me in"
But God can put a camel through the eye of a needle, and God can get a rich man into heaven. And don't forget "rich" here was the guy owned his own land.

>>726914380
That's just an rumor rich people made because they didn't like that bit.
Think about it, why would an architect make such a stupid design? Plus there's no evidence for the existance of such gates, we know Jerusalem had regular ones.

The head of a needle is a metaphor for an archway.
he means that rich people pass freely into heaven.
they wouldn't be rich if they didn't do valuable work for society.

>>726915683
>muh methaphores
No, he straight up says what it means earlier.
>Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,” he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
This is what he meant. Stop making excuses and either follow him or give up trying.

>>726915431
>>726915683
>>726914978
>>726914380
Then why are his desciples so shocked? The wouldn't have been if he just said "oh yeah you just need to duck your head, ez"
Why don't you guys read the story, it's short.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+10%3A17-31&version=NLT

>>726915835
>poe
sorry

>>726915925
>>726915431
>>726915683
>>726914978
>>726914380
This is a better translation
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+10%3A17-31&version=NIVUK

>>726915930
Didn't someone coin a punctuation mark for sarcasm? I wish it had cought on.

>>726916043
Good joke but he married her after she got preg.
I think I have OCD.

>>726915431
to
>>726915835

>>726914457
Are you serious?

>>726914380
>>726914970
>>726914978
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/rcjpags7JT8

>>726915423
There was huge divide between the rich and the poor. So you basically either were rich or you weren't, there was no in-between. It's more complicated now but I think we can all agree giving to charity is good.

>>726916351
gr8 b8 m8

>>726916436
you make me like charity.
instead of paying enough taxes.

>>726916492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX2EiBKqITs

>>726915431
> Jesus looked at him and loved him. ‘One thing you lack,’ he said. ‘Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.’
Now you read that and tell me what he meant.

>>726914476
this

>>726916067
i could've "/s"ed, but i really thought that last line'd've given it away.

>>726916672
Remember, we share this place with Ameriflaps, anything is possible.

>>726914978
>Jesus looked at him and loved him. ‘One thing you lack,’ he said. ‘Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.’
Was that an error as well?

>>726915925
Is this a joke? There is literally no evidence for your claim. Cities didn't have those gates.

>>726917777
You responded to the wrong post.
Checked.

>>726916744
>Ameriflaps
the mental image this gives :{}

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>>726917989

Being religious in the 21st century means you are fucking retarded.

>>726918149
...got any arguments to follow that up? Or are you just here to sput memes all day?

>>726914137
who cares what an imaginary guy from a fairytale might have said 1000 years ago?

>>726918207
The evidence for evolution is overwhelming, and trying to stick religion and evolution together is ridiculous.

>>726918149
This.

>>726918207
the fact, that you need arguments NOT to believe in a senseless fairytale confirms that last guys suspicion

>>726918149
>>726918285
>>726918321
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>>726918393
>samefagging this hard

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>>726918285
It was imaginary 2000 years ago actually.
When you're making shit up it's important to get your facts straight!

>>726918424
No.
Is it so hard to believe multiple people here think religious people are idiots?

>>726918424
I only made 2 posts
>>726918478
wtf are you even saying? Bible was not written 2000 years ago and what shit did I make up exactly? you're autism is confusing

>>726918523
It's hard to believe they suddenly appeared withing 1 minute.

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It explains why Americans support Trump?

>>726918653
its god's will, don't argue, obey

>>726918653
Im still waiting on someone to justify their religious beliefs despite knowing that we evolved.

>>726914137
It means don't hog money, donate a lot to the churches.

>>726918573
Jesus was alive 2000 years ago.
you're not making it up, christians are.

>>726918909
there is absolutely no proof that Jesus even existed, let alone performed all those miracles, all has been derived from all kinds of scriptures and writings

>>726919001
>there is absolutely no proof that Jesus even existed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus

>>726919001
The fictional character jesus is still ~2000 years old.
kindof like how Harry Potter is ~35.

>>726919180
I was referring to the age of contemporary form of bible, not Jesus's life

>>726919370
i'm not >>726918478;
i'm just trying to explain what they meant.

>>726919135
Tacitus is the only thing and its 100 years after his death. Very very flimsy. The silence is deafening.

>>726919552
>"SAD!"
>- Donald J. Trump

>>726919552
>Tacitus is the only thing
>there is absolutely no proof

>>726919667
different ppl posting tard