>>726792313 >hurr durr not being able to talk about group x isn't anything at all like facism! that's what you sound like. >>726792268 ont >>726792444 the war is coming soon enough you retard, nazi germany had the exact same things happening. >false flag attack >government swoops in, stealing power from the people >revokes such basic human rights as to speak out or show dissent for a group of violent bigots woo sure are a lot of tumblrinas on tonight
>>726792313 it's okay, when those libtard turn into shariatards you wont have a head to wear the hat with anyways. all a muslim has to do now is run for office, propose shariah law, and all other candidates will be arrested for speaking out or highlighting what's so blatantly wrong with shariah law. (bcus that blatantly falls under islamaphobia, and god only knows what else they're going to throw into that fuckhuge generalization)
pretty sure we can't even talk about 9/11 as that obviously makes people afraid of islam.
>>726792933 We have charter of rights and freedoms. This is the supreme law of the land, and will stand as long as this country exists. In it we are guaranteed freedom of speech. This will never cease to exist here. You will be called shit like a "greasy islamaphobe" or whatever the catchphrase of the day is, but you will always be able to say as you will.
>>726793504 Hate speech laws piss me off, yes. But I'm a rational person, who will use facts to back up whatever I'm ranting about on a particular day. A fact, no matter how unpopular, is not hate. There's very few limits to free speech in this country, which I'm very happy about. This is a free country OP, where many people already have, and will continue to, lay down their lives to keep it that way.
>>726791949 this law is a slap in the face to all those who died, and are even currently fighting for the most basic freedoms everyone deserves. all those millions who overthrew their tyranical governments that imprisons anyone voicing dissent, all those refugees fleeing from such states. just to land themselves right back into it.
HURRRRR DURRRRRR I'm a fucking useless rep from shitty (sauga, I think?) I'm going to make my fellow retard libs try and agree with me and overpower all the opposition because of "oppression" and such.
This holds no bearing, creates no new laws, just makes the liberal party feel good about themselves.
>>726794504 It's nothing more than a motion, an expected one. If the libs held the majority any earlier this woulda been done ages ago. Nothing changes. Go ahead and keep stiring the libtards pot, no one's stoping you, and if they try, fuck em, stir faster.
>>726795598 not a millenial, try again. don't worry we'll all know first hand fascism soon enough. just stay there complacently waitin it's gauranteed with dumbass bitchbois like you being the majority in this society.
>>726795890 Not a liberal, also isn't it funny how the majority of liberals scream Nazi and fascism yet Conservatives (I'm guessing you also) call them idiots. What makes your claims anymore legitimate then theirs?
Also if your main argument is "People are trying to make me more PC :(" well guess what, as soon as you leave the internet, none of that actually affects you. What you see online is a small majority of retards that are generally too scared to do anything IRL, like OP who probably does nothing to fight his "Fascist state".
>>726796175 >he's never been to a beach during ramadon literally assault, harrass, and intimidate people (mostly women for wearing bikinis) i've seen this shit with my own fucking eyes, but now you can't speak about that because it's "islamaphobia!" cops come and don't do shit "bcus it's their right to protest" which would be fine and all, except for the fact that they're harassing and assaulting people for not covering up. should've heard this fucking goof "what you see all these women and you don't want to rape them? you faggot you're gonna burn" probably a total bitch without his faggot boyfriends behind him also thought it was hilarious how someone who was telling women to cover themselves was also calling someone else a faggot seconds later.
>>726796813 Fucking beta, grow some balls and stick up for those who are in need, and don't back down, instead of calling the after the fact squad. If you see something fuckey like that, do something about it instead of bitching
>>726796694 >This isn't worth fighting anywhere other than in the court of public opinion that doens't work unless you want to be ostricized and labeled a "racisss he sais sings i dnt likes!! hes raccissss!!! look at him go against islamaphobia bill, he's clearly a raccisss" i mean fuck look at how that "anti bullying" laws turned out everyone thought free speach and freedom of expression would protect them, but that's clearly not the case.
>>726796957 so that i can get charged for assault and subsequently have my belongings stolen after having the shit kicked out of me? are you retarded? i would probably be the one arrested for that too. i'm not superman, i can't just stop some random faggot from whipping rocks at people
>>726797285 Yes, punching a guy throwing rocks at people, Yep that's reasonable. Pulling some ray mysterio moves out on some random 10 year old who runs into your leg at the mall, not okay. All proportionate.
>>726797217 under nazi canadia law that is not the case. until someday calling someone a racist is made illegal. considering it's the libtard trump card, i doubt it'll happen anytime soon
>>726797285 >reasonable and proportional let me play it out for you what would happen >so instead of walking away and informing the authorities, you decided to attack someone over having seen them throw a rock at and harrass a pedestrian >disturbance of the peace, assault > lack of evidence of the original assault on the pedestrian >a dozen goofs testimony against mine and some girls
i'd be arrested in a scenario like this while they'd all be allowed to walk home as if nothing happened. either during or after i get my teeth knocked out by a dozen sacks of shit
>>726797536 If someone is getting rocks hucked at em, I'm sure they would take the side of someone protecting them, not the muzzies hucking rocks. Booom, whitness. Arrested? Fuck yeah, probably. Will the charges get dropped? Bet your ass on that part of it to. Have some fucking integrity and stand up like a man, instead of bitching to the cops and whining on a image board
>>726798176 >hurr durr take an ass beating and jail time for some random slut on a beach telling some sack of shit he's a stupid sack of shit chivalry died ages ago anon. people don't even care about freedom of speach, you think i'm going to bother attacking some worthless little shit who's going to get what's coming to him eventually anyways while putting myself at risk? if he touched me or someone i was with that'd be a different story altogether. but some random who was probably trying to incite a fight for worldstar can suck shit out my asshole for all i fucking care.
>>726797536 >>726797819 >>726798022 >>726798176 Nare one of you seem to understand the law when it comes to assault and defence (of yourself and others). There are many nuances that will be factored in. In the situation in question just jumping in and throwing haymakers might be seen as excessive. An assult charge might stick. However if you instead try and stop by restrainig the person throwing shit or simply getting up im their grits (aka a little bit of pushing and shoving) that would be seen as more reasonable but you have to stop if they do. If you keep it up its assault.
None of you 29 year old faggots have any understand of law or legislation. Fucking walking around talking about "Islam protection laws". You're idiots. Go look up the motion, read it, then look up what a motion actually is, then go back to the motion, read it again, unstandard what it is and what it isn't, then come back, and have an actual intellectual conversation about it without hyperbole and making shit up.
Also, btw, I'm against M103 myself, but I know what it IS. I have a grounded understanding of how legislation works in this country and I know what changes this will bring. It's not fucking illegal to denounce, criticize or attack Islam you retards
>>726799370 >The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. >Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact. shutup and enjoy the ride faggot. aint nobody here gives a fuck about anything
>>726799573 it's really just a massive smoke screen to divide us from the real issues. like another oil pipeline being accepted at the same time as this bullshit bill (you know the one that threatens thousands of peoples drinking water, destroy ecosystems and disrupt native peoples land/livestock) or how mobsters, sorry i mean a shitbag union promised to do everything it can to stop basic income from ever happening outside of trial stages.
>>726799573 Im a liberal. And Im against it. But again, I know what it is and what it isnt.
The simple fact is that its ALWAYS been illegal in Canada to discriminate a group based on their religion.
From the Humans Rights Act (1985): "The purpose of this Act ... all individuals should have an opportunity equal with other individuals ... without being hindered in or prevented from doing so by discriminatory practices based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability..."
This has been the law for over 30 years! More time than these retarded posters have even been alive.
This motion is nothing more than the government putting forth an effort to try and curb and prevent the discrimination people face, something that is ALREADY illegal. And it DOESNT just apply to Islam.
Dont believe me, well heres the fucking text of the actual legislation:
"the government should: (a) recognize the need to quell the increasing public climate of hate and fear; (b) condemn Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination and take note of House of Commons’ petition e-411 and the issues raised by it; and (c) request that the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage undertake a study on how the government could
(i) develop a whole-of-government approach to reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination including Islamophobia"
You're all fucking sheep, just like the radical left.
>This motion is nothing more than the government putting forth an effort to try and curb and prevent the discrimination people face gee i wonder how they're going to do that, by simply talking about it right? they put this shit into law, why the fuck would they need to if it was already redundant from other laws currently in place?
never before could you not speak out against a religeon and the acts people are committing in its name. discrimination is not the same as ending any and all discussion on a topic you filthy fucking cuck
>>726800080 It should be manditory to take law in high school. Having a basic understanding of the legal and legislative process would go a long way towards taking the air out of the sails of this whole issue
>>726800080 >This motion is nothing more than the government putting forth an effort to try and curb and prevent the discrimination people face this isn't new york, muslims aren't being stopped in the streets and searched for bombs. stop being fucking retarded and see this for what it is
a broad and fundamental restriction on your right to voice concerns about violent bigots.
>>726800923 Not that old, i just smoked a lot of pot back in those days so my memory is a little foggy. I remember that i thought of all the stupid classes i had to take law and civics where two that are actually useful
>>726800866 >big difference between civil discussion and outright biggotry. the difference lies on the interpreter which is the whole issue with these sorts of laws. anyone can interpret anything as being negative, regardless of the persons intention. which is basically giving the courts a "put you in jail free" card as you can't prove your had no malintent with the discussion at hand.
>>726801449 >he doesn't like what i like >he must be ignorant! nigger if you don't like vocal dissent against stupid shit your government does, why don't you go live in some totalitarian shithole like north korea i'm sure you'll fit right in with the other sheep
>>726801431 The only hate speach conviction I can remember in this country was some hick out in alberta i think it was who taught at a school. He told his students all kinds of stupid biggoted bullshit, handed out pamphlets for white supremicist groups and generally made a nucance of himself. Outside of that i have not heard of the hate speach law being used much. You certainly dont see people jailed for uttering racial slurs or anything like that
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