>Not being to drive manual transmission Explain yourselves

>>726748950
My car only has 1 gear

>>726748950
>claims to drive a stick

>posts stock image

fucking loser.

>>726748950
I can and drove one for 8 months.
That being said I'll never own another manual.

>>726748950
Not being to drive english

>>726749186
>Taking pics of your gear stick

okay

My pickup is a stick and I drive out every day, thank you.

Had an old Chevy Geo Storm as my first car.. stick is superior... sometimes.

I love driving stick, my wife's car is auto and it's boring to drive.

>>726748950
I'm ashamed that i cant.. when i was trying to learn manual i feel like a fucking retard.. like why is it so hard for me to grasp :( after reversing in a sloped car park i gave up

>>726749680
I replaced by '96 pickup with 2014 Tacoma and I was going to get a stick but the shifter was tiny. It didn't even feel good to shift it so I just bought the automatic. Only downside, no excuse not to let women drive it. When you have a stick you just say "sorry honey it's a stick" and they're done.

>>726750189
>i gave up
never son

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjmwUkwZan8

>>726748950
isnt it called standard tranmission?

>>726750720
either or you should know that Manual and Standard mean the same thing.

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modern automatics are more efficient and literally better in every way

Drove stick in Drivers ed, my toyota celica was stick, had it for 3 months before i crashed it doing stupid teenager things.

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>>726748950

>>726750877
tits or gtfo

>>726751241
that is just retarded

>>726748950
Does being able to drive a manual transmission big rig count?

>>726751241
Driving a stick means you don't believe in God?
This meme is stupid and it's only posted by faggots

But I do...

>>726751489
>Implying fedora immediately means atheist

Speak for yourself, nigger.

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>>726751489
>>726751465
>>726751389
mad stickfags
get with the times
literally just google it, maybe in the 80s stick was better but now we're here in the future were technology has improved

Manual:

- More reliable, fewer repairs and cheaper to maintain
- More control over your vehicle
- Requires skill
- Time honoured skill

Automatic:

- Less reliable, more expensive to maintain
- Relinquish control of your vehicle
- Any retard can do it
- Pussy ass millennial bullshit

>>726751967
Driving a standard seems like a lot of work and Millennials don't like working.

>>726751967
Half the assholes in the uk who drive manual drive like retards. Including me, so skill isnt really a factor.

Commuting every day in heavy traffic, manual is fucking shit.

Most places in the world drive manual. Automatic is only really favoured by Americans, who are mostly too incompetent to do otherwise. Hell, you fuckers are doing your best to avoid having to drive at all.

>>726751741
That's cool, hey could you also give us some tips on how you keep your vagina smelling fresh all day?

P
https://youtu.be/XlkesG3tvHw

>>726752279
It became the norm when people got cell phones and needed one hand free for them. Now we have touchscreens and stuff but people aren't going to go back. Also as another anon pointed out they suck in commuter traffic.

I like stick don't get me wrong but there are good reasons.

>>726748950
I learned how to drive on a 1980 Chevy half ton 3 on the tree. I can drive any non commercial stick thanks to it.

Why would I drive manual transmission when I have automatic?

>>726751741
>google it

google what? an opinion? if all you need is a car to drive to and from whatever pathetic job you have, then yeah automatic is fine. but if youre a man and do man shit, then you need to have an automatic. otherwise, your car is in control of you.

Been driving stick for 18 years but I'll be getting a auto next time, clutch in and out in heavy traffic is a bitch on my knee. Other than that they are so much fun to drive.

Canadian

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>>726752850
>do man shit
>reinforcing gender stereotypes

>>726748950
not able to till field and grow own crops, explain yourself

It's current year

>>726753048
I probably could. I chopped down a muthafuckin tree today. Come at me

>>726749389
>mayme arrowz
:^)

>>726748950
Learned to drive manual on a bike and learned to drive a manual car while test driving an Acura.

American, suck it. Both my vehicles are autos now though, feels bad.

Learned a few weeks ago on an old diesel pickup. I still suck, buy I mean I can do it.

Jesus fuck, manual drivers are like the vegans of the car world

Nobody is impressed that you drive manual, it's not fucking hard. I picked it up in a 4-5 days.

Im a truck driver.

Gearlets WWTL

>>726753371
It's less about being impressed by people who can drive a stick, and more about how pathetic it is that some people can't.

>>726753446
Do you still have to double-clutch? I remember someone explaining that shit to me a long time ago and it sounded hard.

>>726753454
it's not that people can't, it's that they choose not to. Most ( competent ) Americans could drive manual if they HAD to, but we're lazy fucks so we stick to autos

>>726753454
>how pathetic it is that some people can't.
Why? It's a totally unnecessary skill for most people.

>>726753535
No :(

>>726748950
People who claim to know how to drive a stick, but chew through transmissions faster than toilet paper.
Explain yourselves.

>>726748950

I've never been poor enough to have to drive an old manual

driving a stick shift in a city is a nightmare

>>726753880
It's the clutch 99% of the time with manuals. About 1/4 the cost to repair of an auto rebuild.

>>726754129
Only if you always need a hand free for your mochacino, cellphone and fags.

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>>726748950
Redneck here
I learned to drive stick before I learned about sex

>>726754281
try commuting back and forth daily in a large city and driving a interstate twice a day in rush hour traffic.

>>726754416
Houstonfag here, can confirm
>05 manual Accord coupe
Funnest car I ever had though

>>726750499
Lol wut. I had a girl ask to drive my truck and I said "no". And then she hugged my arm and said "ppplleeasssseee" trying to be all cutesy, and I just said "No" hahaha wtf nigga. It ain't hard

>>726754416
Sounds like a lot of work. You show go fill the tub, throw in a couple of bath bombs and soak your vagina.

>>726752850
No one gonna point out this nigga said automatic twice?

>>726754156
Yeah, my second clutch is going out but it's been a decade. Clutches wear down no matter how careful you are, but I'm talking about the people that downshift to hard, dump the clutch too hard, over-rev because they can't be bothered to pay attention to a tac, their speed and what gear they are in or even the sound, if they don't have a tac like me. Most of them kill 1-3 transmissions before switching to an automatic because manuals "don't last as long."

>>726754659
You can not sit there and think that bumper to bumper traffic in a manual car is anything less than a huge hassle.

>>726749018
Mopeds aren't cars fag

>>726754889
not to mention I live in a area notorious for the worst drivers mass. I can't tell you how many near misses I had in my old wrangler before i finally said fuck it and sold it

>>726754416
I've done it. I don't find it entirely terrible, but I do agree, an automatic would be a better choice in that scenario. If I had to do it again, I'd get a camry or something and save my truck for days off.

>>726748950
Someone who drives manual like a pro.... can tell you that it can be fun but more annoying and less practical unless you have a sports car (I don't)

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>>726748950
But I do, faggot. I'm also a burger.

>>726755294
It's always nice to be able sacrifice a bit of transmission life by downshifting and breaking to avoid getting totaled though.

>>726751470
Yes

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>>726748950

2017 and still driving manual

this is the automatic era, humans can barely feed ourselves

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>>726748950

I just learned how to drive stick after taking ownership of an old family truck.

It's ass.

It's doubly ass because I live in a crowded city, meaning plenty of stop-and-go traffic. I just want to get from point A to point B, which enough of a hassle on its own. Making me do a job a computer does better while I get there is just salt in the wound.

>>726756064
I guess I've just become an old man early in life. I drive a manual, cook my own food from scratch and fix my own shit when it breaks. I'll probably be dead soon in the great uprising of neets.

>>726756235
Nah, it's good for you. Learn to drive the old thing well. When you get a ride you choose for yourself, you'll appreciate it much more.

>>726751967
exactly. The control gained over your vehicle far outweighs any bullshit con an auto driver can claim exists

>>726748950
Have a 95 Jeep Wrangler with a 5 speed. Pretty sure I can drive stick

My first 2 cars were manual. I live in the city and drive through traffic every day. It's much nicer to do in a luxury automatic

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Drove stick shift until last year when a smooth talking faggot sold me an automatic. I'm never going back.

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I love my six speed wrx

>>726759368
If you've got a WRX or some torquey beast like that you have to get a stick. I hope they don't even make them in automatic, what a waste

>>726759139
nice, saved

>>726759589
Well hate to break it to you but they make a cvt

>>726759368
>wrx
2005 called, they want their car back.

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>>726760223
is dis nigga srs?

I had to teach my neighbor's daughter how to drive a stick. She got a car with a stick shift from her grandparents as a birthday present but nobody in her family knew how to drive one and the girl was not going to let het mom and dad sell it to get her a used car with an auto and put the rest of the money in her college fund. She asked me to teach her and her parents couldn't say no fast enough so I took her out to a huge parking lot and got her idling around the place in first. After that shifting an braking were a breeze. I wish I didn't have to wait 2 years till she's old enough to give me that blowjob she promised.

>>726760431
haha nice if bait or even better if not

A girl who can drive a stick instantly gains 10% more respect

https://youtu.be/nBtYbvPxptk

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>>726752252
>>726752515
>>726754129
>>726754416
>>726754889
>live in Los Angeles
>drink coffee
>(used to) smoke
>cell phone
>always fiddling with stereo
No problems. Will always drive stick. It's almost as if some people don't know to leave it in 2nd and creep along at a steady pace while the idiots in front of you are accelerating and breaking like retards over and over.

>>726751241
i can't even compute how accurate this is.

the only reason people drive stick is to race cars, or because it makes you feel superior.

in reality they make the ENTIRE road system worse.

>>726748950
People who can't driver manual tran:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNDap8YCc7A

>>726750877
The only automatic that is more efficient that a manual is actually a computer controled manual. So you could argue that that manuals are still more efficient.

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>>726761325
Meh. I'm a shifty.

AT are *far* quicker off the line vs a manual trans.

It's more fun, and I wouldn't assume it makes anyone feel more superior. It's more about the old GT Grand Touring idealogy of loving to row gears on windy backcountry roads.

In a drag straight line, an automatic will dust a manual. So it's not about racing, it's about the traditional enjoyment of controlling the car, and feeling more intiimately connected.

In fact, it's likely that the manual transmission is one of the most highly integrated human - machine experiences.

It's just super fun.

>>726762270
>In a drag straight line, an automatic will dust a manual.
If you knew anything about performance cars you'd shut your mouth retard.

>>726748950
>>not being to drive
good going op

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me1GIDy-U9g

Learned to use a clutch on a 1968 Ford tractor when I was 14. Since the transmission was unsynchronized I only learned shifting properly from gear to gear a year later.

>>726754328
Did you mom teach you both?

>>726751470
Those are being phased out. I was 15 when I learned to double clutch my way through a quadaplex R-series Mack.

>>726750499
Does it matter what you took your driving test in? In the UK if you take your test in an automatic you can only drive automatics, whereas if you test in a manual you can drive both.

>>726751967
>humans are bad at multitasking
>Lets give them more tasks during one of the most dangerous daily activities

You all are terrible with logic.

>>726763847

If you still need to think about shifting after your first week you're probably too stupid to be driving anything.

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>Imblying I don't shift my YJ

>>726763847
Actually that shit keeps you more focused on driving.

>>726748950
reminder that a machine can do things better than you, specially changing between gears

>>726756716
Or just dont drive something thats fucking stupid in the first place? The only people that care are fags that think they know shit about cars.

>>726748950
Driving is a chore and cars are appliances. I don't drive manual transmission and I also don't churm my own butter

>>726748950
i drive stick and perfer it but im not an automatic hater

>>726764086
You people are just so fucking thick headed its incredible. Your brain is still juggling that shift into 3rd, the cars in front and back of you, etc. Quit being so fucking delusional.

>>726764451
What are you, asian?

>>726764107
No, it makes you less focused on actually driving. Driving and shifting arent the same thing. Youre devoting your brain to yet another activity on top of the stack of responsibilities you have driving in the first place. How is this hard to understand?

>>726754328
And when you did learn about sex it was with your sister.

>>726748950
There's no reason to drive manual.
Modern automatic transmissions are easier to maintain, more reliable, more efficient, and if you're really so adamant on believing the myths stating otherwise there is still semi-automatic transmissions that are essentially electronically controlled manual transmissions.
There's no reasonable reason to use a stick shift these days other than for nostalgia.

>>726764451

No, it's really just a reaction after a while. It takes as much thought as snapping your fingers. Also, considering how distracted everyone is these days and all the multitasking everyone is so into it's a nice change of pace to have yourself more fully engaged in such an important task. If your right had has a shifter in it it doesn't have an iphone in it.

>>726762411
pictured of a Jaguar F-Type.

>>726754850
Eh, even people who "should know better" can be surprisingly dangerous because they overestimate their skills. I have a friend that's a mechanic and I lent him my car for a good long while since his was royally fucked. It's an old car with a very heavy cable clutch that was nearing the end of its life. He insisted on "matching revs" and "shifting without the clutch" in the interim until we finally got around to replacing the cable, clutch, throwout bearing, et al. Now I have a brand new clutch but a gearbox w/ practically no synchronizers on the 1/2 fork, plus he went through *three* pedal assemblies somehow. At any rate now I have to double clutch all the time. (Plus the replacement clutch really didn't do much to alleviate the fact that it's cable driven and still heavy as balls.) So now I'm looking at a hydraulic conversion plus a full transmission rebuild.

So yeah, in my experience, people who think they're "matching revs perfectly" tend to actually do the most damage. I'm sorry, but no human is as good, or as consistent, as a finely engineered machine.

>>726752081
got that damn right. any stepped skipped is time saved.

>>726764731
I will guarantee that im a better driver than you. Guaranteed. If youre defending your stupid stick shift this feverishly, youre probably one of those faggot kids that pins it at stop lights when they turn green.

I don't know why that would even matter just be happy you can drive anything that you want. both are quite great and have pros and cons. some situations I would rather have one over the other and vice versa. like stick for cruising automatic 4 Speed Demon

>>726751470
10 speed? That's just, like, uh, a 5 speed times two, right?

>>726764767

Say that next time you're driving in a blizzard. A stick is just plain superior for that task. This is fact.

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>>726756716

Fuck that, beyond the incredibly slim possibility of finding myself in a scenario where I HAVE to drive stick for some bizzare or life-saving reason (which I already knew how to do from years of racing sims), this doesn't benefit me. Aside from some marginal street cred from a group I give no shits about.

I'm a mechatronics/robotics hobbyist. This thing is getting turned into a clutchless manual the second I finish up all the other bullshit on my workbench.

>>726759139
https://jalopnik.com/carjacker-kills-man-in-front-of-family-because-his-car-1793199481

>>726764735
Where did you get your neuroscience degree?

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you homos will literally argue about anything

stick drivers are genetically superior. automatic drivers smoke cock, professionally.

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Never had a manual.

>>726764930

Did you change the cable? Sounds like it's binding.

>>726765025
Asian ricer in a civic, but had to get the automatic. SAD.

>>726761091
This. Also, my leg is JACKED and I don't have to work out as much. Jokes aside, the whiny bitches that suggest a manual is "too hard" in a city can shut up.

Just be the early bird and beat traffic, whiny shits.

>>726765078
>Driving in a blizzard

Why are you living where there are blizzards, faggot?

>>726764925
Nice deflection, but im also not condoning the fuckwits that text and drive all the time. The only thing you should be focused on when driving is not crashing the fuckin car. You take away from that focus no matter how experienced with a manual you claim to be. Anyone and everyone would likely drive better with automatic.

>>726748950
Noone taught me how.

Then I learned by myself.

Then the vehicle I was practicing with got stolen.

Now I'm laughing my ass right off of my ass.

>>726764767
The only automatic transmission that is more efficient that a manual is really a computer controled manual. So really manuals are superior.

>>726765315

Because it's where I live, along with billions of others. Some places on earth have this, just like some have earthquakes and deserts n shit.

>>726765078
A re you incapable of staying in a lower gear when you're driving auto?

fucking kek

>>726765171
Do you really need a degree in neuroscience to know that doing two tasks at the same time will keep you from doing either task to the best of your ability? Are you really that fucking dumb?

>>726765078
How would it provide any benefit? I've never had any issues during winter. On my new car I barely ever even need to use 4x4 since it has that weird 4-disk brake system that automatically steers your car straight if it detects swerving.
There's also winter tires if you're really having issues.

>>726765350
>The only thing you should be focused on when driving is not crashing the fuckin car.

Please tell me you don't actually drive. Jesus christ you must be awful at it if it takes all of your brain power to not run into the guy in front of you.

>>726765117
Fucking worthless scum.

>>726765507

The lower gear still isn't the same as having the engine and transmission locked together as is the case with a clutch. Engine braking in a blizzard is just plain better in a stick.

>>726765261
Quit projecting buddy. You literally know nothing about me. I know youre a cocksmoking faggot though, you use a shift cause you miss having a dick in your hand all the time.

>>726765526

Do you chew gum worse when walking?

>>726765672
It's truly the lowest of scum I've conceived of in a long time.... you don't have something, you try to take it from someone, you are ignorant, get angry about it, shoot a guy in front of his family, and bail? that's so many levels of pathetic trash I can't count. It's turtles all the way down.

>>726750189
Its alright nigs. I was selling my 93 f150 with a straight 6 (low end torque, terribly hard to kill), and he murdered my clutch the day before I sold it. I think he managed to take off once going downhill.

>>726765441
Too poor to move?

>>726765414
No, many normal auto transmissions are quite easily beating manual transmissions since they are shoving more and more gearings in. I believe on some VWs their autos have 10 gear ratios now.

>majority of the world uses manual transmission
>a few Americans don't enjoy driving so buy automatics for a numb experience

W-why is everyone else so dumb?

>>726765078
Honestly dude a stick has nothing to do with winter driving, it's all about the tires. I'll take my Xi3's on an autotragic FWD over a 6-speed AWD on any all-seasons or an 4x4 on all-terrains any day of the week. Sure, if I have shitty tires it's nice to be able to pick 2nd gear to get moving on a slope... but not having shitty tires is a far easier solution.

>>726765586
You can try to make extreme exaggerations to save your argument but to me it just shows youre upset because you think im actually winning this pointless argument.

>>726750877
Money is dumped into automatic transmission research and advancement while manuals mostly need to be special ordered. Plus there is still more parasitic powertrain loss with auto, always will be, we have direct drive in every gear. nigger.

If you don't enjoy driving, buy an Automatic.

>>726765807
Do you jerk Chads dick worse when you have Brads in your mouth?

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>>726760431
>I wish I didn't have to wait 2 years till she's old enough to give me that blowjob she promised.
10/10

>>726766128
ATs are theoretically more fuel efficient, hence the market direction....

>>726765953
More gears does not mean more efficient. Please provide proof of one non computer controled manual that is more efficient then a manual. Plus the fucking dog clutch in that thing has to depower the engine to shift fro 6-7 and from 7-6. It is going to fail.

>>726766043
It's the same thing with Burgers and healthcare.

>Entire rest of first-world has single payer universal healthcare for their citizens
>Americans are the only developed nation where individuals struggle to pay healthcare out of pocket and their their homes for getting sick or hurt
>They actually believe this is the standard the world over

W-why is everyone else so dumb?

>>726765807

I regularly fall over if I try to chew gum while walking, it's unrealistic to expect the human brain to process more than one task at a time.

There's a good reason that 97% of car accidents are the direct result of someone having to painstakingly adjust gear manually, which can take upto 20 seconds staring at the stick instead of the road.

Driving Auto isn't as fun but at least I'm not condoning murder like you are.

>>726765578

Spoken like a guy who hasn't driven stick. When your car is going 30mph and your engine is turning at 2300 lets say, when you let off the gas your wheels will still be turning at the speed the engine forces upon it as it slows. This keeps the wheels turning at the correct speed for your actual speed. When you let off the gas with an auto the car essentially starts freewheeling, to an extent. This allows your wheels to start spinning at a speed different than that which you are moving if anything should allow such a thing to happen. Such as hitting the brakes. Hit the brakes in a stick and the engine reacts as well, once again locking the speed.

But hey, without actually experiencing this it's quite difficult to imagine the benefits, but they do exist.

Also, if you do happen to get stuck you can rock the car better to get out with a stick than with an auto.

There's also the option of starting in 2nd to lower the torque to the wheels, making you less likely to lose traction.

OK, fingers are tired, this post is over.

>>726766157
Thread saged.

>>726766423
No they are not. Show a non computer controled manual that is more efficient then the manual version for a car. Auto have a fluid coupling that drains power, you cannot get around that.

>>726766574
My car doesn't spin tires because it automatically adjusts the engine revs and brakes the tires.
It's RWD and I've never had issues going uphill on icy roads or getting stuck at intersections even when not in 4x4.

>>726748950
Jesus this opens a can of worms. My first car was an old buick four banger. Decent, cheap, get-to-work car to learn to drive in. Kind of wanted to learn manual but just try and get someone to use theirs to. Decided I would get one for my second car, planned on selling it shortly and getting a loan on a nicer one. Long story short I'm one of those wretches. I will never own another automatic if I can help it. Fuck me silly but I just won't.

>>726766423

The market direction? Are you talking about in a single country or on a global scale because those are going opposite directions.

>>726766734
>Auto have a fluid coupling that drains power, you cannot get around that.
Uhhhh it's 2017 and cars have aggressive lockup torque converter program. Some cars only release the lockup TCC for idling and starting off, the rest of the time there is a direct mechanical connection, like a manual.

>>726766788
>My shitty plastic ricepot does everything for me!

wtf is the point?

I always thought this was just a meme, do Americans genuinely think driving a manual car is a special skill?

>>726766934
It's a Corolla, I gave up on life long ago.

>>726766934
Well when I drive during the winter I prefer not to die.

>>726766046

Given identical tires the manual will provide superior performance in the snow.

>>726766116

I'm not making an extreme argument, I am taking what you say at face value.

>>726766899
> any modifacation requires an overhaul of my transmission
You can cam out a manual, no problem.
Change gearing, no problem.
Auto's are still more complicated and expensive.

>>726766423
Only in Burgerland is the "market direction" favoring automatics, because the consumers are obese, diabetic, and utterly incapable of learning to shift their gears. In the rest of the world, manuals are king.

>>726766998

You only die if you are a complete retard who doesn't know how to drive.

>>726748950
Stick shift master race reporting in.

>>726763685
in the states not at all. Take it in an auto and you can drive both.

>>726766423
Theoretically is if driving conditions don't vary.

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>>726748950
>But I can

>>726767160

That's mental! If you don't know how to drive a proper car, you should have to take extra lessons at least!

>>726766946
Do you not see how fat and lazy we are? Extra arm movements cost precious oxygen, precious oxygen which is in high demand and hard to come by with all the fat and crippled lung capacity.

>>726766788
So, you're vehicle h-has traction c-control?

>>726750189
I learned manual at the same time that I was just starting to learn how to drive, that probably helped

>>726767098
I'd still rather just have the electronics and auto. I don't want to have make taking off from an intersection a hassle every time. Maybe if it wasn't a daily driver vehicle I wouldn't care but it's ultimately safer imo. The electronics respond faster than a human ever could.

I'm not opposed to ever learning.

Just doesn't seem necessary right now.

Automatics rule! If I had to change 'gears' (whatever they are) then I'd have to keep putting down my soda every time and that's a distraction when driving, especially while I'm trying to update my twitter.

>>726767481
It's not traction control, it's that weird ESP system jeep uses or whatever it is.

>>726766128
>Plus there is still more parasitic powertrain loss with auto, always will be

If both the manual and automatic were both 100% efficient...the automatic would still be better.

The automatic can shift perfectly, every single time, and I mean that in the most literal sense. There's not a human alive that can make the same claim, and, being controlled by a human, the manual can therefore not shift optimally to maintain power or efficiency.

At BEST, you could say that a semi-automatic (which is essentially a traditional manual with a computer handling the actual shifting) "clutchless manual" is better than an automatic, but that's a far cry from the traditional stick.

>>726766509
>More gears does not mean more efficient.

Yes, it does. The engine's own efficiency and power bands trump the additional losses in an automatic's torque converter. Especially if, as in a semi-automatic, you ditch the converter in favor of a computer-controlled clutch.


Case in point? F1. Semi-automatic clutches. Higher efficiency than with a fluid-coupled automatic, but much better shifting than a human could ever manage. And decidedly not a stick.

Try driving a stick in a hilly city like Seattle or San Francisco for a few months, It sucks cock. Now if you live somewhere reasonably flat like LA or the Midwest or wherever its much easier.

>>726748950
Cuz times have changed

>>726767566
So chrysler™ traction control.

In a drag race between two identical cars, one being manual, one being automatic. The manual will always win because you can gain the most out of every gear before shifting up whereas the auto will just shift at low ass RPM and waste all that potential of the gear.

>>726767638
No it doesn't. I mean, if it does then you suck at driving manual (relatively).

>>726767495
>Taking off from an intersection a hassle every time

Is this would automatic drivers really believe? lmao. There is no hassle my dude, it takes a split second. Once you learn to drive stick you just do it without thinking.

Autos are cuck cars.

>I-I don't know how to drive, p-please do it for me

>>726767726
What kind of fag "drag races"?
Just get in your car, get to your destination and get out. Jesus christ. Its not a toy.

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>>726767533

>>726767638
living in a shitty liberal hell hole on the left coast sucks cock no matter what you drive

>>726767696
lol I have no idea who came up with the idea. It's not real traction control though, it electronically controls your gas pedal and electronically controls the brakes. There's no limited slip differential though.

I'm from Europe. Never driven anything but manuals.

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*Shrill, screeching smoker's voice*

I SHIFT MY POWER SCOOTER AT THE WALLY MART EVERY GOT DAMN DAY YOU COMMUNIST LIBTARD PIECES OF SHIT!

>>726767758

I always stall my manual car every time I try to move from a standing position. It then takes upto an hour for the vehicle recovery service to arrive, restart my car and change my gear for me. Whereas in an Auto it's instant.

Do you really have the time to wait an hour just to start your car? Manuals suck.

Automatics were initially designed for the disabled but then Americans decided that they fit perfectly with their obese needs.

>>726767575
The automatic cannot shift perfectly every single time. It shifts within preset parameters, not condition based.

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>>726767261
cars are easy

Manuals are literally obsolete. Every serious driver's car uses a double clutch flappy paddle. Modern automatics get better fuel efficiency and are more reliable.

But keep on telling yourself that you're manly because you eschew modern conveniences in one minor area of life.

Nothing say "man" like putting your beer between you legs so you can shift.

>>726768087

Being American IS a disability so I don't get your point?

>>726767912
Sounds pretty neat, kinda gay if you want to go drifting around in the snow though. Can you turn it off at any point?

Auto: *Rrr rrr* Aww shit, my battery's dead.

Stick: *shove* *dump clutch* vroom.

>>726768146
You're just mad because you don't know how to shift. Lazy faggot letting a car dictate terms to you.

>>726768248

I mean, I learned to drive in a manual. It took me longe to get used to an automatic than it did a manual tranny. Kept going fr the clutch and slammed on the brake...

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>>726768146

Okay so Americans are already completely cucked when it comes to car companies treating them like babies, but any NON-AMERICAN who drives an Automatic should be shot dead since they clearly lack the basic intelligence to function in civilised society.

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>>726767908
Hell yah it do Ronny Bob! Them dumb libruls ain't got no idea how shitty them cities really are. Hell, they wish they lived in Pisswater, Okiedokie like us! 100 bars and grocery stores in a 3 blocks? Hell, what we need that for? We got the Wally Mart and the Vee - Eff - Dubya!

TRUMP!!!!!1111

>>726748950
I don't drive a model T

>>726768411

Why?

Clutch and brake are not in the same spot?

>>726767319
Different anon here. The US is ass at Driver's Ed, trust me. In most places it's free through grades 10 and up, and you get what you pay for. Nothing.

>>726768212
Sort of, there's a button that partially turns it off, but to fully turn it off you have to modify your ECU. It's a pretty easy mod apparently. They only give you the option to partially turn it off because sometimes it bugs out in deep snow and your tires seize up, but that only happens on 2WD apparently

Do people still feed themselves?

Being able to hold a fork is literally an obsolete practice, I get my mom to feed me instead as it takes less time and allows me to focus on my cartoons instead. Also, she makes these choo choo sounds when she does, which you simply don't get from feeding yourself.

It doesn't make you more 'manly' just because you know how to chew food without mommy reminding you.

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>>726768073
Fuggin lul good job, my dude. That got a sensible chuckle out of me.

>>726768584

He's American, always assume retardation.

>>726768188
I think you mean "Drunk driving scum".

>>726768090
>The automatic cannot shift perfectly every single time.

I meant purely from a mechanical standpoint. Obviously it cannot predict what gear you will need to be in a second or so down the line, but no human could ever hope to go from gear to gear as fast as an automatic can. A cursory Googling will show that the average automatic can shift in around 100ms, over twice as fast as the fastest human can. The semi-autos in the Veyron and a couple of other cars can shift in EIGHT MILLISECONDS.

I agree that a manual is better than an automatic in terms of performance on the track, but, at the same time, a manual is inferior to a semi-automatic in that context.

>>726761325
In my country most people drive stick, I didn't know it's not that usual

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>>726763847
This is objectively wrong. Driving a stick forces you to be more engaged with the vehicle and whats going on around you.

You must constantly be aware of the gear you are in, and change gears according to the circumstance; present and future.

In an automatic you do not have to do these things, so you are more likely to play with the infotainment system or your phone.

>>726761325
>in reality they make the ENTIRE road system worse.
Heh, please explain why it's usually automatic cars which stop at give way signs and cause a mad concertina effect in traffic.

>>726767575
>Yes, it does. The engine's own efficiency and power bands trump the additional losses in an automatic's torque converter
No it doesn't, not even close, the reason a fluid flywheel transmission needs a cooler is because of the heat it produces, that heat is drive energy converted into heat via friction and even the best of them are very inefficient when they're not locked which is every time you're accelerating.

>>726768513
Which had a completely different method of changing gears to OP's picture.

>>726761325
I drive stick because I enjoy it, it makes me more alert too, driving auto can get pretty boring, especially on long trips, so I feel it makes me a better driver too. Most of the time accidents and congestion are caused by automatics too.

>>726748950
I can and do drive stick when I want to have fun. But my daily is an auto. Fuck that shit in traffic. If you've ever put 3 clutches in with in the time span of a year you'd understand.

>>726772373
>If you've ever put 3 clutches in with in the time span of a year you'd understand.
Not sure if you've been told this before but that isn't the transmissions fault anon.

>>726752850
The fuck?

>>726750189
Everyone makes mistakes. I've made so many like that but I sure did learn how. You can do it! :)

>>726762411
>same cars(one aut and one stick)
>same track
>same skilled driver (if the driver is your average driver and not a drag racer)

Auto will win, the control of the computers is just better and faster than the average human brain.

Most drag racers run high idle torque converters(which are in automatics, meaning no clutch) and sequential transmissions (up shift/down shift are the only inputs and is basically as automatic as you can get without being automatic) 1/4 mile drag races are over too quick for most brains to register H patterns. And I can guarantee you that if drag racers could use automatics, they would. They're faster (if you can set revs) and they're more consistent.

>>726772373
3 clutches in a year? Nigga what you doing to that poor transmission?

I'd like to learn to drive a manual if only I could find one to practice in. Nobody in my family has had a manual transmission vehicle since like 1992.

But we're not that far off from self-driving cars, so arguing over manual versus automatic is like arguing over race horses versus farm horses IMHO.

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I only want to drive a manual so I can hit vtec.
I don't think driving a manual in NYC would be that great.

>tfw your gf drives a manual

>>726773665
affordable self driving cars are a ways off

some faggot billionares might have one by 2025 but itll be a while b4 theyre widespread

>>726752898

I'm with you, oldfag

>>726764735
Do you know what muscle memory is?

>>726753141
any idiot can do that

prolly some puny 18 inch diameter twig

>>726748950
I'm not a faggot cuck.

Since I don't have a micropenis, I don't feel the need to burden myself with archaic trivialities such as "switching the gear".

>>726772373
>If you've ever put 3 clutches in with in the time span of a year you'd understand.
this is no one's fault but your own nigger.
i've owned nothing but manuals for the last 15 years.

>>726774766
Pretty sure you are, giving away the ability to choose when to do things is exactly what cucks do.

>>726769005
What is
> bangshift
I can shift in part of a second too ;)

>>726766946
It's just so common to find automatics despite costing more if you order the car from the dealer. The only reason I learned was to get a certain car that only comes manual. But it wasn;t hard I learned the day I got the car.

>>726766946
i'd say a good 60% of burgers can't even drive one. it's pathetic. you can literally learn the fucking skill in a single afternoon.

no one does it, and buying a manual is a pretty surefire way to prevent your car from being stolen here.

>>726768411
I had to drive my friends car and i went to hit the clutch and i just kept pressing my foot down wondering where it was until i remembered

>>726768411
i once instinctively searched for the clutch with my left foot and hit an e-brake on the far left, that didn't go well.

>>726772940
automatic still won't let you redline

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>>726771251

...which has nothing to do with how many gears it has. You posited that more gears was either not advantageous or a disadvantage, nothing to do with the torque converter.

Again, on a track, where you're constantly shifting, the loss through the fluid is problematic. Even then, you're better off with a semi-auto.

On the road, where there's plenty of cruising involved (and where most the fags going "hurr durr manual is king" are driving) with the converter is locked, it isn't.

>>726775258

You have absolutely no idea how ridiculously fast an 8ms shift is, do you? Put it this way:

Can you shift 5 times in one second? Maybe, just barely, under ideal conditions, with the car is OFF, and you're one of the best drivers in the world. MAYBE. Now how about 10 times. Now how about 100 times. Because, even if you were fast enough to shift in a HUNDREDTH of a second...you're still slower than the Veyron's computer.

Fact is, even professional drivers can't match the shift time most consumer-level automatic transmissions, much less the very best performance semi-autos.

>>726772373

I'm arguing against manuals. I'm still going to tell you, specifically, to "learn to drive."

>>726766832
>tfw my first car was a Buick automatic
>twf my second car was a manual
>tfw I will never own an auto
Hello me.

>>726772373
>tfw I've had the same clutch for 13 years

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>>726775604
>a good 60% of burgers can't even drive one
69% of negroburgers can't swim

>>726748950
Lol jokes on you nigger. I live in the country, learned on manual f450, drive a manual f250 and literally have only ever drove an automatic a handful of times and while they are really nice (being able to relax and just let the car work itself while jamming to tunes) my left foot always jumps up to hit a non existent clutch pedal and it kind of freaks me out. Besides, automatic transmissions are more expensive to have work done on and are heavier. I'll just take care of it myself.

>>726755294
Yea, that's why semi's and work trucks that haul heavy loads always have automatics (he said sarcastically)

>>726750189

>sloped car

try driving something not from asia.