Communist friend breaks into your home, redistributes your

Pls it's important, i hear the red army orchestra approaching

>>726618634
Tell him to gtfo and learn the difference between personal and private property.


What is he, an uneducated american brainwashed by the red scare that thinks this is how communism works?

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>Communist

>>726618634
Declare myself head of the government so I get my stuff back, plus his stuff, and everybody else's.

nothing

because i'd gain wealth

thank him for the money

>>726618634
Redistribute the beating my wife was going to get.

>>726619365
b-but the red scare is real. Their country is right next to nato bases

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>>726619365
This anon gets it

>>726623233
>you see, anon, through the earths rotation, russia keeps moving ever closer to the nato...

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>>726618634
throw them out of a helicopter

>>726618634
i will never have a communits friend

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>>726619365
>>726623291

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>>726618634

teach the cockroach about marxism.

>>726623814
>>726623804
>>726623452
>>726623291
>>726623233
>>726619365
These niggers know what's up.

comrade of humanity is a comrade even of the ignorant who don't understand it for shit, comrade

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>>726619365
He gets it

I wasn't aware you could redistribute poverty

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>>726618634

I'm poor as shit, so he'd be redistributing money to me, rather than from me.

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>>726618634
>implying I have any wealth to redistribute in the first place

Kek.

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Seize the means of reproduction.

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>>726624432
>socialism leads in communism
thats kind of the point

>>726624432
>you are not entitled to somebody else's hard earned money


>mfw the boss takes most of the wealth i create with my labour


I fucking hope you posted that sarcastically m8, cause that's some ugly brainwashing.

>>726618634
break into his home and redistributes his wife's pussy.

>>726624432
1. Thats Social Democracy
2. Well, your not getting their money. You are just reviving compensation for what you produce in a democratic workplace
3. Who said anything about that
4. But they are.
5.Thats the goal. A Classless, Stateless society.

>>726624762
Thats the american education system for you

>>726624693
And we everyone knows communism fails reliably.

>>726624938
Cause it gets sabotaged by every capitalist on the planet.

>>726619365
>personal property
>private property

same thing m8

>>726624938
Capitalism is a constant failure on a global scale.

>>726624938
how would you know? there has never been a truly communist country in the world, or socialist countries. plus, any country that tries to gets huge embargos which destroy their economy, like cuba, venezuela..

>inb4 russia wasn't state capitalist

>>726625127
private property = means of production like a factory

personal property = your car, etc

>>726624938
Well, Communism's never been properly achieved.

The State Socialism of the USSR is just seen as a vessel to achieve it. But that is inevitably betrayed by the Party Elite.

This is way the Vanguard is not the valid tool for us. We need to bypass that stage and go straight to Communism

>>726625127
Nope

Private Property - Land, the Means of production really.

Personal Property- What you purchase for exclusive use with the fruits of your labour

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kill all of your faggots.

>>726625243
if I own a factory, it's my factory

>>726625188
no true scotsman

>>726625418
subtle kek

>>726625243
>>726625333
you really take the time to answer him?... well, ok, I did take the time to hmpf you two.

>>726625432
And theres a Guillotine waiting for you

>>726625580
It is never moral to kill someone

>>726625432
but you couldn't under communism, because the means of production are considered a human right. just like the air you breathe, everyone has a right to it, and everyone has the right to share in the surplus of goods created by a large society. really, the idea is that everyone's basic needs can be taken care of, and that very few people would need to work. this releases people from the shackles of wage labor to enjoy life how they would really like to. whether it be the arts, science, etc.

>>726625711
But it's moral to exploit the workers? To take the fruits of their labour?

Capitalism is the most inefficient allocation of resources we've had. Capitalist would rather waste stuff to create more profit.

Whole countries are starving while others throw tonnes and tonnes of food away.

>>726625821
I'm not exploiting them if they voluntarily choose to work for me

if you don't like the way I run my factory, go work for someone else

nobody is forcing you to work

>>726625906
ironic how those starving countries are socialists

>>726625958
voluntary work for me and earn a tiny fraction of the value you produce or starve


great choice.

>>726625958
>voluntarily
What choice do they have?
That or death by starvation lol

>>726626048
Didn't know somalia was socialist

>>726626048
you mean its dick or be dicked. if you're like that in your private life, I'm glad you're not one of my friends.

>>726618634
That means he also redistributed the wealth of the people that actually have it. I enjoy my newfound riches.

>>726625438
how? a stateless, classless, communist society has never existed. those countries that called themselves socialist or communist have never embraced the stateless part.

>>726625958
Part of the whole reason their is unemployment is to maintain a reserve workforce for just that reason. When workers become satisfied with the conditions and either take action, or leave, there will be plenty of unemployed willing to work in those same horrid conditions

Voluntarily? It's not like the worker has a choice to do otherwise. It's just slavery with a new name.

>>726626048
Name some of those "Socialist" countries

>>726618634
Redistribute his brains to my poor working class walls

>>726619365
pfff lol check out this faggot

>>726625958
>nobody is forcing you to work
but if i don't work, chances are i won't be able to provide for myself (food, shelter) and eventually, i would die. so yeah, i am forced to work.

>>726626352
>yeehaw, go yankees, the post

>>726626298
Venezuela

>>726626295


and they never will

>>726626298
You definitely have choices, you can be homeless or leave the country if you don't want to work

>>726626661
Be homeless and starve?
Leave the country and starve? Doesn't sound like much of a choice.

It's like saying slaves aren't slaves, as they can attempt to escape or cease working and starve.


>>726626465
Not really socialist. Have the workers seized the means of production? No.
Has the state been decentralized? No
Have classes become obsolete? No

>>726626265
that's unfortunate that you are unable to form freindships with people who hold different beliefs

>>726625780
What's the point of opening a factory then?

>>726626888
/thread

Americans love hating on anything remotely red without ever reading about their ideology.


And i don't mean that propaganda your state puts out.


Then i guess its a bit too much to ask, expecting yanks to read an actual book.


Have a go at thomas piketty, or the comunist manifesto.

>>726626514
ofc not, the existence of communism depends on people being not-selfish. and not a few, it depends on all people in a country being selfless. that's why they wanted to establish the dictatorial regime, to force people to stop being selfish through mass propaganda and education. then the dictatorship, which should have consisted of selfless content folk would become obsolet and more or less dissolve. simplified.

>>726626888
because factories provide goods for society in abundance, which helps advance humanity.

>>726626874
actually, if you are a slave it is illegal to try and escape

if you are homeless or decide to quit your job, that is a personal choice and you have the freedom to do so

>>726626888
The worker and the factory owner is trapped in the capitalistic society, they need each other to survive

>>726627179
i dont really see the point in doing that unless theres some benefit for me

>>726626888
to produce for the people, not for the profit of single people. like, read a book once in a while.
>>726626885
sorry, I don't like people being dicks for no apparent reason.

>>726627307
This means you are a shitty person

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I redistribute his teeth.

>>726627307
you will benefit. everyone does the work, everyone shares in the profits equally. the more everyone helps each other, the more productive you are, the more money you can make.

of course that's if we keep money around.

>>726627307
and that's why you're not a communist, you selfish bastard.
>>726627179
minus the abundance. overproduction is pointless waste of resources

>>726627443
which is why communism and socialism don't work lol

>>726627088
all commies should be killed, not joking

>>726627169
exactly, it's ridiculous, and ignores human nature

>>726627495
so if i work harder than everyone else, will i get paid more

>>726627549
exactly. see >>726627169

>>726627179
>>726627261
>>726627373
So you want me to spend money on a factory that I earn nothing from?
Communism seems to be for lazy motherfuckers that don't want to work.
What's the point of working harder if you won't get payed more?

>>726619365
The wages of Marxism are death.

I am the one who burns the grain. Because it is mine and I'll die before I give it to you.

>Purge the Progressive
>Burn the Marxist
>Kill the scab

>>726627549
nah if we remove shitstains like you they won't come back as there won't be any classes to create this mentality

>>726627618
welll, not human nature per se. nature of the masses. being a communist at heart doesn't mean that I am brainless, there is what IS, there is what CAN BE and then there's what SHOULD BE
>>726627774
we get it, you're a selfish prick. you will post the same post over and over again
>but what's in it for ME?!
and from now on I'll stop telling you nothing but fairness for everyone.

>>726627774
When all your needs are taken care off and you have the same as all the rest, what's the money for?

>>726627774
and that's why communism fails every time

>>726627820
kill the scab? a scab is a worker who betrays his class to serve his piggie master


i don't understand.

>>726627904
that will never happen lmao there will always be lazy fuckers like me to ruin your perfect system

>>726628027
>>726628033
Then why should I work if all my needs are met? There wouldn't exist any factories since nobody would open them, since they have their needs met already.

>>726628033
to buy cool shit i want

>>726628033
human want is infinite, my desires will never be satisfied

>>726628363
>>726628302
>>726628262
samefag troll

>>726628027
there is nothing wrong with having self-interest, in fact it's stupid not to

>>726627495
>This is what socialists actually believe

So I am a slave. I don't control my own destiney, the cheka or MiniCom or whatever thing you have in this fantasy decides my fate. So much better than le Capitalist Mr. Pig.

Fuck you, I am a proud Kulak. When you're cornered in the alley and the bully's are going to take your sweet roll, you fucking stamp on that bitch a die fighting. Kulaks are based and fuck you and fuck Marx.

>>726628531
I presume you're this dude >>726628262

man, I really wish we'd have IDs back.

>>726627539
>minus the abundance
right. i mean that we have the capability to produce in abundance.

>>726627637
hard work doesn't produce revenue, selling goods and services does, really.

>>726627774
yeah, you do earn something from it. you advance humanity in the end with it. you're part of humanity aren't you?

>>726628531
in a capitalist society, yes.

>>726628460
https://gyazo.com/1f56eae87ddc8c9d8b1e447ef20b75a1
You sure mate?

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>>726624885
>>726624762
>>726624693

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>>726618634
>invading my private property
you fucked up knee ger

>>726628739
>you advance humanity in the end with it.
How would I be advancing humanity if I'm not working since all my needs are already met?

>>726628731
no, but i agree with him

>>726628739
>in a capitalist society, yes.

in every society ever

>>726628739
what is the incentive to work hard then if im getting paid the same as everyone else

>>726618634
thank him for his money

>>726629124
because you get shot if you don't

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>>726618634
Convert to capitalism

>>726618634
Help him redistribute my surplus man seed.

>>726629009
>no, but i agree with him
well, for all intents and purposes you kind of still are. for your answer, see >>726628739
>in a capitalist society, yes.

>>726628210
All of this bullshit "diversity" and "multiculturalism" is a giant front to keep wages and people poor as possible. It's the ploy of the Leftist capitalist to import foreign workers to keep people oppressed and to oppose nationalism. Illegal immigrants and most immigrants are imported scabs to depress wages.

>>726629291
so i can either work or get killed

sounds a lot like being a slave

>>726629124
'hard'


if we all worked a little bit the load per person would be light

>>726629339
yeah, as if free borders aren't a thing in the EU. living and working abroad makes you less likely to take the time to vote or otherwise engage in politics at home

>>726629124
This is why we need to bring back shame and honor. It wouldn't matter to the scientist that he was paid the same as a bus driver, he would work hard to make an impact for the good of society, and if he slacked off people would jeer him and tell him he was shirking his responsibilities. He would be ashamed and work harder to regain his honor.

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>>726624885
>5.Thats the fantasy. A Classless, Stateless society.

>Thats the american education system for you

The (((Common Core))) education system you mean?

>>726624762
>mfw the boss pays me for my labor
>mfw without my boss I wouldn't be paid at all

kys.

>>726624693
Pic related. You're literally fucking retards. How can you possibly claim to be anti-establishment (I mean, you can claim that now because there's someone in office who you don't agree with, but I mean before that) while you fight for the exact same things the establishment fight for?

>tfw you're literally foot soldiers of the bourgeois, who has never worked a day in his life, but attack the working class Trump supporters who are literally proles because you're a Communist

I would insult you if you had the self awareness to understand it.

>>726625169
Not for the Jews.

>>726629475
it is, fuck commies

>>726629492
or i could just not work at all and let everyone else do the work

id still be their equal

>>726629592
hail Thomas Jefferson, greatest of all presidents

>>726629565
lmao bro you don't know how shameless i am

>>726629492
Except that most people i run into are niggers and jews at heart, who think nothing of exploiting the labor of their fellow citizens for personal gain.

>>726618634
Live in a society with less poverty for a while. ...til everyone gets bored and decides we'd rather actually feed each other to the wolves because why the fuck not.

>>726629571
>.Thats the fantasy.

It's already been achieved. Paris Commune. Free Territory. Revolutionary Catalonia.

But always crushed by the Authoritarian Neighbors basically

>>The (((Common Core))) education system you mean?
Been out of school before its implementation. And they went all out demonizing Socialism and the Left


Also, Anarchy is No RULERS not No Rules.

There would still be a government of sorts. But would be non-hierarchical and based around a Consensus form of Direct Democracy

>>726628720
how does having your basic needs met equate to having no free will?

>>726628838
>cuck
you know it's funny how the alt-right refers to anyone who may be a leftist as a "cuck." you know what that really means? it means a guy who lets his girl hook up with other guys, while he watches or some shit.

and i say, so what? this falls back on some type of pseudo-masculinity shit where it's somehow not manly to be a swinger, or embrace sexuality. what if your wife wanted you to hook up with other girls while she watched, then the tables are turned right? where is the word for that? furthermore, it really does seem like the right is obsessed with rape, because that's always one of the common accusations of people they don't like
>they're raping our women!
sound familiar?

>>726628957
you can do other things to improve society other then work, like scientific research

>>726629124
this is a twisted perspective. you're all benefitting equally. this is also per work place, not the whole country.

>>726629571
>implying homicide would be acceptable in an anarchist society

>>726629865
If you read the first sentence you'd see why I think you're an idiot.

>>726624762
>The "le Capitalist steal from you when he profits from your labor!" Meme

Then why don't you just compete? This arguement is just bullshit and comes down to greed. It is more efficient for you to work for a wage than to directly compete against the Boss, that's mutualism.

How the fuck is it your logical conclusion to murder him and take his business because he's taking some of the profits from your labor because his structures and programs are more effective than the structures and programs you'd create and compete against him?

>>726624432
All misconceptions almost no one holds.

>>726629865
No i don't, because as an honorable gentleman I simply cannot fathom the lack of shame which you are proud to profess.
That means I agree.

>>726629685
I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion.

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>>726628739
>yeah, you do earn something from it. you advance humanity in the end with it. you're part of humanity aren't you?

You think the majority of people would be this idealistic?

Can anyone in this thread really answer why anyone would want to contribute to a communist society rather than just try to get by with the bare minimum?

Don't even bother replying to this post if you're like that one shitposting communist in here that just discards and cries about every argument he can't counter.

>>726629981
still not sure why

i think communism is a great idea

id show up to my job at the office, screw off the whole day, and get paid the same as a scientist

sounds good to me duder

>>726618634
Have a party! A communist party!

What I got from this thread is that communism doesn't work unless it is in a really small scale, for example inside your family. Unless you find out a way to brainwash people.
I wouldn't want to live in a communist society since you won't get rewarded for working harder than the majority.

>>726626132
Nigger are you serious right now? You're on the fucking internet, you aren't going to starve. You're an edgey fucking little shit in America or god forbid, euroland. Go to the nearest fucking church and say you are hungry and get food. It'll be good for you you fucking proud piece of shit.

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>>726629565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqtwu0PqJuo

>>726630026
MUTUALISM IS THEFT THE BOSS BETTER PAY ME WHAT HE OWES ME IN GOLD KRUGERRANDS OR HE HAS VIOLATED THE NAP AND WILL DIE A MYSTERIOUS HELICOPTER-RELATED DEATH

>>726630159
>why anyone would want to contribute to a communist society
Because it's advancing the human race, and you benefit from that as well because you're a human. How is that a bad thing? Don't you just want people to be happy and enjoy their lives?

>rather than just try to get by with the bare minimum
If that's what you want to do, go for it.

>>726629295
Name of her ? Plz help anons

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>>726629980
Don't worry, I hate the alt-right almost as much as I hate pinkos and commies.

>>726629980
He called you a cuck as an insult, and then you got defensive about it. So now I think that you're actually a cuckold.

>>726630803
inb4 classical liberalism is god-tier

>>726629544
What are you even trying to say? I don't blame the scab, fuck he's just trying to live, but they really do start to infest countries like vermin. You start to get shit like La Raza and other Marxist groups that need to be exterminated. The worst thing that could happen is if they could vote. They owe their masters everything for being in their host country and can whipped into any direction you want them to. Look at London.

>>726630709
>and you benefit from that as well

not necessarily

other people's happiness is not my responsibility

>>726630376
>Unless you find out a way to brainwash people
exactolucci. if being selfless is being brainwashed, I'm all for brainwashing.
>you won't get rewarded for working harder than the majority
don't need to work harder. each to his own abilities. you're just supposed to give as much as you can, not any more than you can spare, though.

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>>726618634
take it back with force

>>726630709
>If that's what you want to do, go for it.

That's what most people would do. Do you really want to work 10 times harder so you can let me and my 9 buddies be bums?

You can do that right now, send me and my family 90% of your paycheck right now in the mail. There you go, communism.

>>726629565
Like niggers pakis and mudslimes give a shit about "honor". Try that tankie.

>>726631120
I'm saying, in capitalism it's wanted that you go work for other countries, as it means you're not currently being part of the political process at home

>>726631175
it's not selfless to steal from the productive

i will give nothing, fuck you

>>726630803
Cool, at least we have something in common.

>>726631030
Because it's a stupid insult. It's a dying scream. Just like how liberals call everyone that doesn't agree with them a bigot, or a racist.

>>726631208
I wouldn't need to work any harder than anyone else if your needs were already being met. I wouldn't need to send anything.

Go apply for welfare or unemployment. Same idea.

>>726631175
Why would I care about some stranger? I care about my own family.
Not caring about strangers is what the majority does, so you'd have to brainwash people if you want communism to work.

Fucking communist chicks is so easy bro, you can get massive poon just by saying you want to create a stateless society. These dumb niggers actually beleive it too! Never met anyone as gullible as a commie. Will post pics for true capitalists

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>>726619365
Global communism was definitely nothing to be concerned about

>>726631452
>I wouldn't need to work any harder than anyone else if your needs were already being met.

You would if you want your quality of life to remain the same.

Where the fuck do you think the money comes from? Seriously?

People that get paid for unemployment get paid a small fraction of someone with a decent job and can barely sustain living with the money. They live in poverty.

That is exactly how you would live in a communist society having to sustain 10 other people that don't feel like working.

>>726630159
If you can systematically indoctrinate and brainwash huge masses of people to risk their lives fighting wars for people who will never know their name under the guise of "patriotically serving your country", you can also ask them to be a little more compassionate towards their fellow workers.

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>>726619365
Look at all these samefagging commie degenerates ITT

Fire up those choppers

>>726631418
>steal from the productive
who said anything about theft? theft is wrong. I'm talking about your abilities. some people are smarter than others, they can become doctors and scientists, others simply cannot. and no one forces them to, they work to their abilities as factory workers and farmers or tourist guides etc.
>i will give nothing
but you do give, you give away your work. no one wants your personal stuff or your earned money, all "we the people" want is your workforce. not in exchange for pay (well, that too, in a way) but for all the community gives you. you cannot provide and produce EVERYTHING by yourself

>>726631453
you simply don't trigger me, dude. sorry if you wanted another reaction than hmpf.

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>>726631958

Then why hasn't it been done? The person in charge of doing that will just take control and then you have another North Korea.

>>726618634
>>>726628720
>how does having your basic needs met equate to having no free will?

Because I can earn my own bread. I don't need you to force me into your fake tribe at gun point to help all these other people I don't care about. My family is my Commune, that's all I need. The state can fuck off, I'm not supporting your shitty ideology.

When you come in and say "No comrade Kulak, you must give all of that grain to the commune! You may not just keep passing down your farm to your children or your brother's children. It is not fair to those who have no family or do not think ahead. Come now, give me that grain" dont be surprised when I burn it. A man chooses, a slave obeys.

>>726632286
+1000

>>726631487
redistribute the pussy, to each according to his need etc

>>726630652
Okay Poe.

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>>726631195
there's a good man!

>>726632038
>you simply don't trigger me, dude. sorry if you wanted another reaction than hmpf.
What? I'm not trying to trigger anyone, I thought we were having a discussion. Guess not.

>>726632508
nah i got a monopoly on it rn

>>726627618
"...The Communists turn their attention chiefly to Germany, because that country is on the eve of a bourgeois revolution that is bound to be carried out under more advanced conditions of European civilisation and with a much more developed proletariat than that of England was in the seventeenth, and France in the eighteenth century, and because the bourgeois revolution in Germany will be but the prelude to an immediately following proletarian revolution.
In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.
In all these movements, they bring to the front, as the leading question in each, the property question, no matter what its degree of development at the time.
Finally, they labour everywhere for the union and agreement of the democratic parties of all countries.
The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
Working Men of All Countries, Unite!

WAIT SHIT GUYS SCRATCH ALL THAT I FORGOT ABOUT HUMAN NATURE!"

>>726618634
summons trump

>>726632568
>Having a discussion
>On /b/
lol ur a fukin idiot

>>726632580
back to the gulag

we will redistribute the means of production whether you like it or not

>>726632957
the means of REproduction

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>>726632936
I suppose I am for thinking communists could explain their beliefs.