Why do you support gun rights?

>>726395812
Because freedom

>>726395812
because I like guns.

>>726395812
Because unlike most Democrats, I know for a fact that mankind is basically evil.

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so when this little faggot is in my hall I can't deal with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8fqDnJMzn0

>>726396609
>therefore, I seek to increase access to firearms

>>726395812
I like the plinking noise the targets make.

because guns are people too

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Niggers

>>726397089
yeah I love shooting cans. mexicans, africans, puerto ricans...

>>726396956
The quicker dumbasses kill each other, the better.

>>726395812
The purpose of gun rights in the form of the 2nd amendment is to provide the populace with it's own check against the government if it ever becomes too tyrannical. The founding fathers remembered that the Brits tried to confiscate weapons prior to independence. An unarmed populace is easier to control. Hell it'll be funny and highly ironic if and when democrats realize they'd need guns to oppose god emperor Trump if he ever did go emperor mode.

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>>726395812

>guns are fun
>hunting
>recreation
>competition
>self-defense
>criminals don't obey gun laws (see: paris attacks)
>no point disarming law-abiding citizens
>guns are the ultimate equalizer, raw strength and even strength in numbers can be effectively nullified
>guns are the only realistic way the weak, the handicap, or the elderly can defend themselves against younger, stronger assailants
>scary black rifles seem to piss off cucks and soccer moms, that's a plus

>>726395812
because i dont love cock

same reason i support abortion rights; i support dead kids.

>>726397824
This

>>726395812
for mass shootings of childrens of course MURICA YEAH

Status quo
>criminals have guns
>citizens have guns
Without gun rights
>criminals have guns
>....

If guns are going to exist in society you might as well let law abiding citizens own them, criminals are not going to give two fucks one way or the other.

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>>726397824
lol

>>726395812
Cause people need to die.
Faster, and much, much more often.

>>726398809
Do you notice how mass shootings always happen in gun free zones, amazing how that happens.

>>726395812
because I support a man's right to defend himself and his family

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>>726395812

Without gun rights, only the government and the criminals (who by definition don't obey laws) have guns.

>>726398837
That's sensible.

Liberals don't like sensible people.
Liberals hate you for supporting gun rights.
Now they want more muslims and more mexicans.

See how this is all intertwined?

>>726398837
by that logic if people are going to drive drunk, you might as well make it legal so everyone can drive drunk.

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>>726398921

>The Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit affirmed.

lol

>>726395812
Because the bad guys are going to have guns regardless. It's only fair to let the good guys have them too.

>>726395812
I don't support gun rights, I support the right to bare arms.

>>726399157
Or take the other side and ban alcohol? Both extremes are stupid. We sit in a middle now and it seems more on the ban side but that is my perspective.

>>726399157

You're completely ignoring the fact that guns are used for self-defense, dumbass. Driving drunk doesn't help society. Guns, in certain situations, can help.

Why do you think people call 911 when a guy with a knife starts stabbing people? Because the police show up and they bring fucking guns with them to shoot the maniac.

>>726395812
Now we're giving rights to guns??? What's next, chairs??

>>726399157
Nice false equivalence. Can't think of a reason why my argument is wrong, so you bring up an related subject. And by the way, on the subject of alcohol, banning it only caused crime rates to go up.

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>>726395812

Because they are incredibly useful for crippling governments. The same reason we arm Kurds.

C'mon even Obama knows this.

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>>726399427
shooting innocent people doesnt help society either, but you're all for it.

>>726399692
Unrelated subject*

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>mfw I don't need to justify my gun purchase just like you don't need to justify your butt plug purchase.

>>726399177
Don't blame him. They can't understand the precariousness of the situation in front of their eyes, if it were up to us we would shoot all of them for being traitors to the US, our culture and the constitution but we can't because of laws that require incrimination first. When the law fails then we'll have our opportunity, we just have to wait

>>726395812
I support gun rights, provisionally.
Like driving, everyone should take a competency test and get a license.

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>>726399692

>>726395812
It's easy to argue against gun ownership on /b/

The thought of any of you fucks being armed is a fucking scary thought.

>>726399713
Only criminals shoot innocent people, and criminals would still have guns if it were against the law, because by definition they do not follow the law. Now, if an innocent were to have a gun they could defend themselves.

>>726395812
Because I'm not a faggot.

>>726395812
Because 13% of Americans are niggers.

>>726399817
and people should have to take and English test if they want to practice free speech

Because there are 100 million gun owners in the US and 99.99% of them will do nothing wrong.

>>726399764
Right there with you.

(Not on the butt plug but the gun purchase)

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>>726399817
>visionally.

>require a license for self-defense
>require a license for free speech

kill yourself, commie cuck

>>726395812
c'mon guys, this is old news. Let the guys with their small dicks keep their guns. They gotta feel dangerous. I say lets have a stinger missile in every garage. We have the right to bear arms after all. It is the only way we will safe from our government.

>>726398837
Poor argument. It's very rare anyone has used or was able to use their gun in self defense.

>>726395812
Proper gun control means being able to hit your intended target.

>>726399957
Someone's been to Breitbart

(Not that its bad)

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oh god, gunfags are so easy to troll. this is great.

>>726399696
Funnily enough the US Gov was opposed to arming the Kurds originally, but the Brits pressured for it to happen and won. And thank goodness, the Kurds have done 90% of the fight against IS/ISIS/whatever you call it

>>726395812
because gun owners are 40x more likely to die from gunshot wounds than non-gun owners. #thinningtheheard

>>726400083
>what is deterrence

>>726400042
I wouldn't mind having one

>>726400161
>oh god, gunfags are so easy to troll. this is great.
This is how liberals spend their lives.

P A T H E T I C
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>>726395812

Because pewpewpew.

>>726395812
Here's a better question, why the fuck are you not on /k/?

>>726399817
>Like driving, everyone should take a competency test and get a license

Driving is not a right, just remember that. Something so crucial to mordern society has not been made a right for a person. Now why is this? Why does the government not regulate a car you can buy but will, at their own discretion, take the right to operate that vehicle on public roads?

I believe you, as a responsible person, should make it a priority to take a class. All of the gunowners I know took a class to learn more, not because it was needed. These people paid money to learn about firearm safety out of their own volition and that's how it should remain

>>726400331
Fuck off newfag

>>726395812
I support it as long the person has been proven sane

>>726399817
Do you want an age limit too? I killed my first deer with a gun when I was 8 years old. I can't imagine how unskilled and dangerous with weapons I would be if I had to wait until later in life to start using them.

>>726400210
>swimmers are 40X...
>drivers are 40X...
>self suckers are 40X...
>/b/tards are 40X...

>>726400547
Hey there newfag, hows your first time on /b going?

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>>726400083
> It's very rare anyone has used or was able to use their gun in self defense.

Laughingsluts.jpg

americans keep coming with same arguments: 'self-defense', 'protection against the government', and because it's 'badass', stop posting this crap please because those are all what-if scenario's

if u are expecting a riot vs the american government, u will beat ur precious military department with a hand pistol? and why not use a tazor or any other device for self protection? glad this is europe

>>726398921
Guess what, every able-bodied male, ages 17-45, is considered part of the 'unorganized militia' of the United States.

>>726398979
Ikr? I mean it's not like they can just take a truck and run a bunch of people over instead.

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there are exactly 3 types of "gun people"

> professional gun users

cops, security guards, military. basically anyone who uses a gun at work.

> gunz-r-fun people

cuz...guns ARE fun

> muh freedumb/muh safety/protect muh fambly

pure, unmitigated, grass-fed, free range, artisanal, uncut, sustainably harvested, hand-crafted faggotry.

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>>726400210

It's kind of like a chef having a higher chance of cutting their fingers with knives.

More exposure to risk correlates with actual risk. Go figure

>>726400580
As somebody who owns 4 firearms and fully supports the right to own guns with reasonable regulations that is one of the worst arguments for gun rights I have seen. I see where you are coming from, I have been around guns my entire life, I got my first gun when I was 11. But I still think people should have to take a class first.

>>726395812
Not really. But for the fact that I could give fuck all about if they're illegal or legal, but the government shouldn't fucking know if you have a gun to begin with.

I don't have one, but if I ever get one, it will be black market.

>>726400901
>Ikr? I mean it's not like they can just take a truck and run a bunch of people over instead

Bu-but you have to take a test and get a CDL license before operating those trucks.

Huehuehuehue

>>726400788
Yea now I know you're a fat stupid piece of shit liberal cunt. If you ever had to defend yourself like I have you would know that an AR is one of the best measures. We are fighting to keep those rights from democrats who want more muslims and more mexican gangs and less legal guns

>>726400788
Afghan poppy farmers beat the Americans using AK-47's, so why can't 300 million American citizens do it?

>>726395812
Guns are people too! They have rights!

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Soros branches out from hating on Trump to hating on guns. Hope he pays you CTR people well.

>>726399817
you only need a license to operate a motor vehicle on public roads...

>>726400788
Jealous eurocunt detected. Enjoy watching your wife and daughter getting raped by muslims and ISIS slaughtering

>>726401369
I think you only need one if you're traveling for work purposes. You don't need one for leisurely travel.

>>726395812
To defend myself against rapists/robbers/murderers and help equalize power between governed and government.

Shits, giggles, etc.

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>>726395812
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>726401147
As least you'll be able to defend yourself

I love i that half you people make the argument: but criminals have guns, even if outlawed.

It one of the biggest bullshit arguments. I'm dutch, so one of the strictest gun laws, never have i seen a gun except on a cop. Ive been Robbedoes, burglarised or threatened. None of these criminals had guns. Would the Netherlands have US gun laws, all of those criminals would be armed. Hell if I was a burglar in the US i would take a gun Just in case I break into a gunnuts house.

>>726395812
Because fuck you. That's why.

>>726395812
Because if it wasn't for my gun I would have been murdered twice, carjacked once, and home invaded twice. I would much rather some criminals take a lead salad than be their victim.

>>726395812
/b/cause reasons

>>726401542
>AM I BEING DETAINED?
>AM I BEING DETAINED?
>AM I BEING DETAINED?
>AM I BEING DETAINED?
>AM I BEING DETAINED?

>>726395812
SHALL

>>726401683
Go to Czech republic, they have gun rights

>>726401790
NOT

>>726401777
Good enough for me.

Oh, and congrats on the matching numbers.

>>726401683
The UK, where I live, has tighter gun laws than the Netherlands, and yet on Sunday an 18 year old boy got shot in the head in the street outside my sisters home.

I think someone forgot to tell the criminal drug dealer who shot him that hand guns are banned since 1998.

>>726401847
BE

>>726402225
SHAZAMED

>>726401683
Oh, and btw, the US has 8 times FEWER burglaries than the UK. In the UK there's no chance of being shot but in the US there is, so they simply don't break into homes. See? It works. Even if you dn't own a gun, your neighbour owning one protects you

>>726402126
Oh my God.

That really sucks. Maybe they should squeeze more water from the rock to restrict guns even more. Yea that's the right fucking answer, make guns even more illegal in the UK.

(All sensible British in the UK who value their lives, get the fuck out of there. The UK government is insane as fuck)

>>726401683
Yeah but US is full of niggers

>>726395812
"Gun rights" is a very vague phrase. I support the second amendment simply because I'm a constitutionalist. However I'm more then aware of the deaths, lack of safety, lack of education, and corporate corruption. I personally don't have a gun but if I probably would get one.

What I support in regards to guns:
>The ability for people to carry guns in public.
>The ability to form a militia in defense from the government (however this is very vague; the validity of anti-government militia groups depends on interpretation of what is government infiltration of rights; I think militia groups are valid if the government is oppressing people based on basic standards for human rights).
>Education of minors on gun safety, training, and operation.
>Enforcement of regulations such as background checks to ensure they aren't mentally ill, has a criminal record, etc. I don't see these regulation as infringement of constitutional rights.

What I don't support:
>Open Carry; I don't think it is responsible to open carry a weapon, because of the fact that it could cause a fear reaction in people around an open carrier.
>Lack of background.
>NRA. Just a bunch of pandering right wing hacks who are only in it for money from gun corporations.

If this post is
>>726402999
then guns are fine.

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>>726403007
damn

>>726402574
UK law is getting more and more extreme. CCTV everywhere, people arrested and jailed for offensive jokes on Twitter, people arrested and jailed for self defense in their own homes against intruders; the list of blatant and unabashed breaches of common dignity and justice is getting sinister at this point. We can barely step in any direction without accidentally pissing off the government.

>>726402574
I'm rare among Brits, I oppose gun control. I'd become American if I could

>>726402961
I'm not very informed on the subject; what's the difference between open carry and the ability to carry a gun in public?

>>726396956
Of course
Who else is going to kill faggots like you?

>>726402675
Yeah, and you live in a tiny, rich, homogenous country. You have NO FUCKING CLUE how big and empty America is.

>>726395812

gun "rights"

kind of speaks for itself pal

NH here, we have so many gun rights and so little gun crime
because who wants to fire into an armed crowd?

>supporting any form of law and order
literal cucks

>>726403392
carrying in public but not open is "concealed carry"

>>726403392
Open carry means you don't have to hide it. Carrying a concealed weapon with a permit means you can carry a gun, but you have to have it hidden under your shirt or something.

>>726403392
the alternative to open carry is concealed carry, y'know, you hide the gun in your pocket, under your clothes, or in a handbag.

>>726403392

Open carry means that the gun can be visible on your person. There's also concealed carry which is where the gun must be hidden (under a jacket/other article of clothing).

Different states handle these two options differently.

>>726396609
>evil
It is what it is. If you think it's evil you've probably just thought the opposite and been disappointed. Might as well accept we are in actuality and forget the bullshit stories about human goodness and badness we're fed

>>726403484
>Implying you know anything about me
You're not as smart as you think you are

Gotta be able to overthrow the government. It isn't perfect and shouldn't have more muscle than the people.

And coyotes.

>>726403221
Yea get out. They're turning into V for Vendetta. I heard about the police drones looking for anti-social behavior so don't think we in the US don't know. I would get out very soon and flee, the UK is really starting the thought police

>>726403666
Satan is right

like in New Hampshire you dont need a permit to concealed carry anymore

>>726402126
Ofcourse there are people with guns, just not every criminal, cant deny that murder rates a alot lower in Europe then in US

>>726403288
Flee for your life.

I'm not joking

>>726403609
>>726403634
>>726403666
>>726403620
Gotcha, thanks!

>>726403392
Open carry is when you carry a gun in public and it can be seen by everyone; it's often justified because it's easy to get to then a concealed gun. What i meant was that I support carrying a gun in public as long as it's concealed meaning no one can see it.

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>>726395812
Because it's something you hope to never need

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>>726395812
Because if you don't have the right to defend your own life, you literally don't have a right to life.

>>726403865
Again... Rich little homogenous police states. You cannot compare European countries with the US. This is a huge, empty country with vastly different races and cultures. This is why Europe will be eaten alive by Islam, while the US will survive.

>>726402384
You might have fewer burglaries because you call them home invasion, but all violent crimes are higher in US the in the Netherlands.

>>726403392
I live in Arizona and I've seen people openly carry a weapon. The legality of it varies state to state

>>726403865
But why those extra murders occur in the US is a complicated thing. Is it simply because of more guns? Or is it because the US has more poverty, more niggers, and an open border with a highly corrupt third world country?

People who simply blame guns are stupid

>>726404175
Again... The Netherlands is tiny, rich, and homogenous. Not a valid comparison.

>>726404345
Because its not like Europe is full of sand niggers, greek/spanish hobos and surrounded by middle eastern shitstain countires.

No, none of that is true at all.

>>726404161
Your tinfoilhat is squeezed your brain to hard, if you think that Europe is more of a police state then the US

>>726395812
Because I don't support banning things.

>>726404613
No, it ISN'T true. Europe is full of relatively rich police states with strong borders. There are a relatively small number of minorities and very few places to hide illegal activity. America is HUGE.

>>726404613
No, most of it isn't. Rich European countries that had empires, like France, do have sandniggers and niggers, but most European countries are 99% white

Good people in the UK should consider leaving their country for greener pastures.

>no gun rights or self defense
>UK will be muslim soon

Fucking leave the UK

>>726404752
I am sorry, but you are absolutely, completely wrong. The amount of government surveillance in European countries and the number of police per citizen are vastly higher than they are in the US.

>>726404613
Oh, and the only European country to boarder the Middle East is Greece. The rest of European is separated from them by the Med. So it's not like the US-Mexico border.

>>726395812
ITT: Eurofags with NO FUCKING CLUE how big America is.

>>726395812
because i believe that the cops arent doing a good job in marginalizing the niggers so i have decided to dedicate my life to the cause... now i must build my arms...

>>726404808
>strong borders
Nope you're wrong there. Europe has no borders. thanks to the EU

>>726395812
I only keep guns on my ranch for predatory animals and thieves.
I have sheep, goats, horses and a shitload of weed.
Nearest town with sheriff is 30 minutes hauling ass.

>>726405137
Bullshit. You have borders. You just don't need as much documentation to cross them.

>>726404510
So we are homogeneous, but we are also being invade by muslims, wonder how that works.

Our government has the Monopoly on violence one of the pilares of being a civilized democratic state, something the US has no idea of.

>>726395812
Because the human population is about 8 billion too large, and short of having to come out with an actual culling from the top down, personal gun ownership is a great way of allowing the kind of primitive animals who it appeals to, to greater endanger themselves and their families in general, and ultimately thin their numbers from the bottom up.

>>726405352
Yes, you are homogenous, which is why you can't deal with a relatively small number of people who aren't as white as you. The US has one of the oldest continuous democracies in the world, try again.

>>726405247
Wrong. The borders were 100% dismantled within the EU. Going through Europe is like going through the US. The outer EU states give free access to refugees, because they go straight through to rich countries so they have get nice welfare. There's no border control at all.

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>>726405150
>weed
>firearms

enjoy getting vanned

>>726405534
You're not needed either. End yourself.

>>726395812
Because they are better than gun wrongs , amirite??

>>726404752
The number of police, don't make a police state, yes European has strong and big governments, but no police state, the US on the other hand is well on the Road to becoming one.

>>726405564
Oh, so there aren't individual military forces? Each country doesn't have their own government? You have borders. You just have freedom of movement. You speak different languages. If you don't think you have borders, you are insane.

>>726405637
What!?! Both are likely to be legal where he is.

>>726404828
The number 1 nation personal freedom is Somalia.

>>726395812

The day I stop supporting relaxed background checks is the day the last schoolchild is shot dead.

>>726405792

Yes, it does make a police state. The US is simply too big and too empty to ever be a police state.

>>726405150
First good argument for having a gun

>>726395812
Nigs gonna Nog

>>726402961
fuck you, I'm going to open carry anyway

>>726395812
>niggers
/thread

>>726405881
>where he is
>in the US
>where weed is federally illegal
>and firearms around weed is even more federally illegal

>>726405823
The military can't control non-existant borders. Are you telling me that if an American citizen travels from New York to New Jersey the US army is waiting to look at passports? I bet not. The EU is the same because it wants to become a country. The borders are gone.

>>726406166
What!?! You do understand that the Feds don't enforce those laws where state have made weed legal, right?

>>726395812
Last resort for survival.

>>726405538
The US is a Republic with democratic tendicies, I personally cant call you a democratie when your real possible choice is restricted too 2 parties That are virtually the Same. (On local Politics level the US is more democratic, but who cares about local Politics...)

Because I live in a state filled with niggers and spics.

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Honestly, Weapon and Gun Manufacturers should be the leaders of our country. They should get as much money as they want, and the selling and trading of weapons should be a sacred right.

We have already fucked up big time by selling our own weapons to china and the middle east.

They, being primitive cultures, have not been through the hardships and moralities European cultures have. Countries run by Europeans understand that nuclear war means the end of the world. The middle east and china don't really understand that and they will keep pushing until it actually happens.

But now that we are completely fucked, we should actually allow all white citizens in the united states to have as many weapons as they want. Miniguns, Helicopters, Jets, you name it.
They have the right to protect themselves from the massive fuck ups of selling our most sacred weapons.

>>726406016
ok bye

>>726406168
The fact that you would compare US states to European countries tell me a lot... We all speak the same language. We all have the same laws. Same government. Same military. Your borders exist because you have different languages, governments, laws, and police forces. You ABSOLUTELY have borders. US states are like German districts or French provinces.

>>726405902
So true, kek, very liberal gun laws

>>726395812
because guns are fun.

and because i think it's stupid when full-grown adults blame inanimate objects for violent crime. i choose to blame criminals for crime.

>>726406442
No, we are absolutely a democracy, and the 2 parties, for better or for worse, are a result of democratic processes. Being a Republic has nothing to do with being a democracy.

>>726403620
Is open carry legal everywhere in the US?

>>726406303
Can't rely on that with trump.

>>726396956
#justamericanthings

>>726395812

Because I want to flex my "make my day" law.

And kill the stupid faggot that breaks into my home!

>>726395812
>seppos
>knowing shit about gun control
'Straya here. We're laughing at you. Stay mad, sepcunts.

>>726395812
I support limited gun rights

Here's what I want to see, to get a handgun you need a CWP.

non-magazine rifles are generally all fine, maybe even reduce the wait time on 22lr rifles, including magazined 22lr rifles.

magazine rifles in any nato rounds or generally anything .30 or over and a couple that are under (.223 for example) require a RETURNED CLEAN background check (so currently if the wait time times out and the background check doesn't return they can give it to you) but other than that no hassles.

shotguns generally all good, but still background check and wait period

swords can be carried in public nationally (except in designated no carry areas) (personal want, I wanna see gangsters walking around chicago with katanas

>>726397850
This

>>726406550
btw, it's not me, I'm British, we kept our borders, but the Europeans didn't.

Language means nothing. If you're in France and you want to go to Italy, you get on a train or a car, or plane and you go there with no interruption. No physical border, no passports, no patrols, no checks. There's no border, and putting it back violates EU law.

>>726407261
And US states are like EU member countries. They're building the United Sates of Europe, that's why Britain left. The EU is even forming its own army now.

>>726406722
no, but it is in most states

>>726395812
If I may quote Jim Jefferies, "Fuck off, I like guns."

Im for me killing people legally, but not the rest of you killing anyone. Yall niggas is crazy

>>726406722
No, but it is in most of the country (by area, if not by population).

>>726406550
European countries have the same law. It's called EU law which overrides the laws of the member states. you don't understand anything about the EU.

>>726406665
Yes Just as that China calls its self a democratic state, their leaders a voted to power too. US is more democratic then China, but your system needs some real finetuning to be as democratic as the multiparty system in the Netherlands.

In my book the US barely makes it in the list of democratic countries, slightly above Russia, but below Mexico.

>>726396609
Evil is a choice

>>726407261
The languages immediately identify you as an outsider, which enforces the border.>>726407645

>>726407500
cuz bad mother fuckers are gonna get/use guns then why shouldnt I be able to so I can play cowboy and defend myself? I dropped my gun in walmart and it went off, didnt hit anyone but I did 28 days in jail like a dumbassfag.

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>>726406722

>>726407645
Bullshit. You have a shared legal framework, but each country maintains its sovereignty. YOU don't understand how the EU works. Europe is not the same as the US, and that's why you assholes don't understand US gun laws.

>>726407814
Language is hardly a definer of borders in Europe, my country has 3 recognised languages and we are small as shit, but then again Europe has culture, US Does not.

>>726407928
thats what i like about AZ, we have constitutional carry, you can conceal carry without a ccw.

>>726407814
EU citizenship is EU citizenship. All must be treated equally. And if you have the right to work in one in EU country, you can travel to the others freely. Which is a fundamental right protected by EU law.

Have you noticed how since Brexit the EU has had its panties in a twist over it? A borderless EU is one of the pillars that the EU is built on.

>>726395812
Because they're merely an extension of property rights.

>>726395812
To an extent. I myself own a pistol, a sig sauer p250 (had it before the army), but I don't believe that you need, to use a friends family as an example, six carbines that in some countries would be military grade for a family of four. Owning a pistol for defense and perhaps a shotgun and/or rifle for hunting or if you live in a black neighborhood is fine, but not really more than that.

>>726408224
Yes, you have 3 recognized languages. The US has NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. Those three languages are still different (if only in dialect) from those spoken in other languages. If you think the US has no culture, you have a very tiny and strange world view. Try visiting some time.

>>726408429
I have visited a few Times, and saw no culture, maybe in a few honderd years.

>>726408321
The mere fact that the UK *CAN* leave the EU is proof that you have borders. Agreeing on certain laws and free trade/travel doesn't negate that.

You have vastly higher population density, and largely homogenous populations. The US is bigger than your entire continent. You really don't understand how big this country is. I have 5 acres of mostly-empty land, and I live in a metro area!

>>726408626
Funny... What country do you live in that has an older, continuous culture? The UK? Try again, with your quasi-monarchy.

>>726407125
I could support these

But I already have CWP in SC and Idaho

I could see the only people angry about this being people that can't get guns and people that dont have CWP in their states

>>726408626
sure you have, i believe you.

>>726408001
The EU has sovereignty because its laws override the member states, and its courts rule over member states courts. The EU rulers call it "pooled sovereignty".

Before Brexit, Cameron had to go to his EU bosses on his knees to beg them to remove sales tax from tampons because EU forbids member state parliaments doing that. Some sovereignty that is. thank goodness we're out

Planning on genocide of Trump fags, just easier to have a well stocked armory for when the time is right.

>>726408630
Yeah but the size of your Country doesn't really make for a good argument for gun ownership, i get that rurale areas need some protection against nature. So a small caliber rifle or shotgun would do. Pistols or any automatics weapons are made for killing humans and there is no need for that in a civilized Country.

>>726408867
or states that don't even allow concealed carry

don't think i could get on board with this

tfw i'm in one of those states

>>726408630
The UK didn't join the borderless agreement! It had an opt-out!

The member states don't agree on the laws, the EU makes them! It has its own parliament, federal institutions and legal identity. When the federal EU Gov makes laws there's nothing the member states can do to stop it.

>>726409209
Maybe amend it to allow a path to CWP in all states

>>726409209
not that guy, but what's the point of a handgun if you can't carry it around?

>>726408726
See that is a statement that only An uncultured person can make. My culture has hardly anything to do with the Country i live in. I'm a Limburgian, a minority culturele group that lives in the Netherlands, Germany and belgium

>>726395812
for several reasons some other anons have already stated

>1) stupid fucks who dont give a shit about anyone elses life but their own.

>2) Its a normal civilians last defense against a tyrannical government / invasion of mainland USA

>>726408630
I understand how big your country is... Texas and France are almost exactly the same size. and France has something like 1.5x more people. it has nothing to do with the argument though.

>>726395812
>Why do you support gun rights?
>Why do you support gun rights?
>Why do you support gun rights?

rights?

Why support rights?

Who needs rights when you can be a slave to your state, and they can provide everything you need to be safe, just like France, Germany,

What all you eurocucks and libtards dont seem to realize about the US is
>thers a huge black market for guns in the US
>a lot of these guns are not manufactured in the US and are untraceable
>theyre usually made in places like the Phillipines, Vietnam, etc.
>most of them are smuggled in by cartels or others
>the cartels then distribute these untraceable guns to affiliated gangs here in the states to protect there drugs, money, and dealing territory from other gangs
>these cartel affiliated gangs then sell surplus untraceable guns to small time dealers, smaller unrelated gangs, and pretty much anybody with the money for one.
tl;dr
The criminals get the guns whether there banned or not here.

>>726397321
I remember that one. He killed her with a hammer

>>726395812
Because I like that gunfags are a self-correcting problem, with their kids killing them and themselves with their own guns. lol

>>726395812
Gun privilege
>ftfy

>>726409359

or make constitutional carry legal on the federal level so individual states can't say who is and is not allowed to carry

>>726409427
loaded on the bedside table

also, i think that's the anti's line of attack
'make them useless and people won't buy them'

>>726400042
I hope your family is raped and murdered in front of you by niggers because you had no means of defending yourself or them.

Cuck

>>726397824
Retarded, tired, and obsolete argument. If you have guns, the government has drones. If you can nigger rig drones, the government has all sorts of WMD's it wouldn't give a fuck about using because muh ethics at that point. You get the plutocrats' backs up against a wall and earth will be uninhabitable within hours.

>>726404910
But you can by pellet rifles. Be happy.

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murica

>>726397850
I'm gonna have to go ahead and screencap this for future use

>>726411149
This anon gets it.

What are you faggots AR's going to do against the US fucking army?

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>726409880
Outlawing guns wont be easy, and you Will need an intense and long government campaign to accomplish anything. But in the end less guns still means less gun violence.

A drugsdealer here in my country might also have An untraceble gun, but it a shitty one, probably more than 20 years old and made in a low quality factory in eastern Europe. He has in Total 2 clips ammo and no idea where he can easily get more or how old het Bullets are. He had Fired the gun once his life for fun and too boost about it. He has no real expierence shooting and his aim is abbysmal

A US drugsdealer might have had his first gun expierence when het was 10, going to the shooting range with his Friends father, giving him tips on how to hold a gun propally and learning to aim. His gun is fairly new, made in the gun factories of asia. That massage produce for the insasiable gun market of the US. He has 6 boxes of high grade ammo bought in the gunstore around the corner.

It isnt Just the ownership That matters, its the whole gunculture in the US that makes your system complete shit.

>>726395812
We don't support gun right man...
Gun rights support US!

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>>726411856
>But in the end less guns still means less gun violence.

>>726411791
What are you, 12? Goat fuckers with decades old Kalashnikov knockoffs from China conquered Afghanistan and are chasing NATO out after 15 years of gurulla war.

See also Iraq, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Cambodia, Cuba, Colombia, etc.

Stupid kids. Quit pretending you understand combat.

>>726411856
>A US drugsdealer might have had his first gun expierence when het was 10, going to the shooting range with his Friends father, giving him tips on how to hold a gun propally and learning to aim.
>clips

you have no idea what you're talking about

>>726412007
GUN violence and violence arent the samething

>>726398979
What, like schools, movie theaters, malls? Are you implying a mass shooting could possibly happen in a household of 3?

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>>726412292
>being stabbed/beaten etc etc to death is better than being shot to death

>>726412185
Guerilla warfare. Lmao. US WMD will wipe you out. Buh bye faget

>>726411856
First off theyre untraceable because theyre hand made in huts
>sauce natgeos underworld inc
>second off these thugs dont have fathers half the time and if they did they were the idiots screaming about less legal guns like you.
I have yet to meet an average citizen in the US who grew up around guns who doesnt keep them holstered or in their car unless absolutely necessary. I even seen two gun carrying redknecks go to blows with eachother before drawing their weapon. Your argument is completely invalid.
Live in a pro-gun state like Montana or Texas first and then a pro control city like Chicago and then argue with me about "gun culture in the US"

>>726412185
Its because US and NATO have standards about human rights and shit, if they want they woud win in a week

>>726411791
Maybe you should check out Knob Creek and the Big Sandy Gun Shoot.
First understand what citizens are allowed to have, then understand how a siege would need to work, then think about the government asking its soldiers to fight against and kill their own family. Damn you're dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khmtMmDfOu0

I like stuff that goes bang and can make a watermelon explode

>>726411149
100% correct.
Guns are fun, that's why most people whether they know it or not support gun rights. They just think that 3 percenter oath keeper LARPing bullshit is actually viable against the US arsenal.

>>726402282
The forgotten right

Shall not be shazamed

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>>726412767
Untraceable? You know what that word means? Because I think you're just considering it in the context of some ATF database filled with fudds. The reason I know it isn't traceable is because you'd brag about it to friends on facebook, or you'd gravitate away from your local FEMA camp for assignment.

I rest easy knowing you'll be asleep when the AGM-114 levels your shit, niggerbitchfaggotcuntqueerlarpfaggotpreppermemefuccboitryhardfudd

>>726395812
Because gun control only removes guns from non-criminals.
Now regulations for safer guns would be nice.
The more useless the gun is outside of the owner's hand the better.

>>726396956
>implying people who want them won't get them anyway

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>>726412292

>>726395812
because you are responsible for your own life and safety.

>>726413058
>would need to work
Yeah, a siege would require one MQ-9 Reaper and one AGM-114 Hellfire missile.

>>726413357
how much of a fucking pussy are you? that argument is so fucking stupid. "the US has a larger more advanced arsenal so we might as well not even try and protect our rights or defend ourselves against a tyrannical government"

>>726412767
I can only argue from the point of View of a European. US has a gun problem, Europe Does not.

There are no reasons what so ever to have a gun here. Except for hunting ofcourse. So in my Life i have never seen a gun or know someone that had seen a gun in private hands.

In the US almost Every one has seen a gun in private hands, Most know someone that owns one. Guns are normaliseert <- this is gunculture.

If i Saw someone with a gun i would call the police instantly, You would not, because it is normal <- gunculture.

From a European viewpoint your gunculture is insanity, with the resources, development level and Tech lvl the US could easily become a Country with normal gunlaws. But you people Just decide to keep those thing lying around. It is baffeling

>>726400788
>u will beat ur precious military department with a hand pistol?

Ask the Viet Cong.

>>726414132
You are a dumb fucking nigger, aren't you? I love guns. Using the argument that they're still legal for the sole purpose of fighting government tyranny is about as inbred dipshit as you can get. Go walk into a police station OCing like those larp queers in Dearborn did.

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>>726395812
I should never be limited in how I can protect myself

>>726414132
Nah he aint a pussy you're just retarded.

>>726414528
>watch this bois, ima use the old he fell for the b8 m8 switcharoo once i get called on my stupid shit ecks dee

>>726413987
Nice cartoon, it makes a good point. A baseball bat is for sports, a piece of string is usefull all around and a knife is good for opening things.now Tell me the use off a gun apart from killing.

>>726414528
lol, I wasn't even trying to bait, but thanks for the compliment <3333

>>726412585
what is the nigger population like in California vs New Hampshire?

>>726414961
Not as bad, but the white on white crime is proportionally worse
lolfail

>>726414519
lol what does OCing in a police station have to do with the purpose of the 2nd amendment and fighting against "the US arsenal".

do you seriously think it's impossible for a government over time to become corrupt and tyrannical?

lets pretend it stays pure for its entirety. do you seriously think the US will be a superpower for the remaining history of the human race and will never, ever be in a war with the potential of having enemies on our homefront?

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>>726415048
It is?

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>>726395812
In no particular order:

>protection
>they're fun to shoot
> I find them aesthetically pleasing (not all)
>presumption of liberty
>SHTF type scenarios

I'm in favor of background checks, requiring private sales to be mediated by an FFL.
I'm not opposed to requiring a license to conceal, but I don't protest the absence of such laws.

I'm against requiring individuals to register their guns.

Here's muh gunz.

>>726414854
Sport shooting is a thing you know. Just like baseball.

Ball=projectile
Bullet=projectile (albeit much faster)

>>726414288
Once again go to pro control Chicago or New York for a while and then come to cozy pro gun Texas or Montana and experience the difference in crime rate. Ive had britbong friends come her before with your same argument and then leave feeling totally different. And if i saw someone with a holstered weapon Your right i wouldnt think anything of it other than theyre disciplined.
Now on the other hand if a thuggish looking motherfucker was coming down the street with his hand in his jacket then yea im going to prepare to defend myself or call the cops.
Also not very many people have guns here. I myself dont but im still pro-gun.

>>726415452
>question about NH vs CA crime
>(You) respond with national stats

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>>726395812
America is not like other countries. It's incredibly easy for criminals and people with malicious intent to go out and get firearms, hell even military grade firearms.

People need to be able to defend their families and property from these scumbags. If gun control actually worked, I'm certain more of us would support it. But it doesn't and it never will. People pushing for the ban don't even understand firearms and push for dumb shit like a ban on "high capacity clips."

tldr, the bad guys will always have them and we need self defense, especially in shitty areas

>>726415582
Not many sportshooters with a pistol

>>726415379
lol yeah, just a dumb nigger

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>>726415979
>I dont have any real arguments because I'm retarded so im just gonna call him a dumb nigger twice

you're very bright.

>>726415379
I think the other anon was trying to tell you to walk into a police station with a gun slung around your neck

I guess the other anon was right about you being kinda dense

>>726395812
i want to have an oportunity when thugs try to steal my bike

>>726395812
I just like being one of those guys against letting refugees into my country, while insisting the mentally ill should be able to buy a gun. This way I can rustle both sides jimmys with one action.

>>726414288
go shoot a gun first before talking about this subject. You have a muslim problem in Europe, go fix that cuck

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>>726415940
U wot?

>>726416149
Well, that wasn't me (>>726414519) but yeah, you missed the point. I both told you to kill yourself in so many words, as well as make yourself an example of how guns are in any way useful for fighting the US in the case it deteriorates to tyranny considering we're living in an age where >>726411149 is applicable.

Martyr yourself all you want, you'll just be laughed at like Westboro.

>>726415940
pls google Jerry Mitchulek

>>726416389
I don't want to shoot a gun. And ik talk about whatever i want. And we don't have a muslims problem.

>>726417361
>And ik talk about whatever i want
yes you can. but you can also have ignorance about it, which renders your opinions to garbage.

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>>726395812
Guns ain't gonna shoot themselves!

>>726395812
>Why do you support gun rights?

Armed men are citizens. Unarmed men are subjects.

>>726396441
retard
>>726396602
honest

>>726417551
So Just because i have never shot a gun, my arguments about gun control are invalid. You sir are An ignorant twat

>>726395812
Silly OP, guns don't have rights.

>>726417648
Hahaha, i have never heard/Read a more stupid comment about guns.

>>726395812
because my country doesnt, soo in the end criminals are the only ones actually carrying guns on the streets

>>726417756
That's like never having driven a car and having an opinion on traffic laws

>>726417648
>look at me, I've got a big shiny gun so the government HAS to treat me like a legal citizen

you are retarded as fuck, hopefully you kill yourself by accident sometime soon.

>>726417756
Fire a gun, anon, it's fire a gun.
If you shoot a gun you will wreck it.

>>726395812

because criminals have them no matter what the guv says.

>>726395812
Because in the modern world it's necessary for proper self-defense.

>>726417919
>too poor to have civil services like a well-armed police force

at least you have the right to defend yourself against criminals, cops could probably rape you with impunity in whatever shithole that is.

>>726417919
This. I don't know where you're from, but here in Australia the only people with guns are cops, most serious criminals and a few people that live in the middle of nowhere.

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Do you think if we went back to the barter system and got rid of monetary compensation, would there be as much killing/robbing/murder/corruption as today?

Because i know im smart enough to make a gun with a cnc machine and i dont want other people to have guns only me

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>>726395812
Because niggers.

>>726418136
only if you're too stupid to move to somewhere safe.

Maybe you can hypothetically defend yourself, but you're also more likely to kill other people and yourself, so net safety actually goes down.

>>726418437
You realize humanity is at historic lows of overall crime and corruption than in the past right?

>>726418437
>Vladimir Putin, le FREEDOM meme

that's fucking disgusting.

You know he's the richest person on the planet after he seized $200 BILLION from "enemies of the state?" Vladimir Putin is a fascist monster and the best argument for a well-armed citizenry.

>>726418513
Like where? Antarctica? Bait harder you retarded faggot.

>>726418015
Why have guns? For multiple reasons, reason one is self defence, or crime deterrence. If some nigger spots a guy with a gun he's not going to steal your laptop, now is he? That opens up the whole concealed carry thing, but since I'm not liscenced to cc it isn't something I can talk about properly. The second reason is to provide a possible rebellion option, or otherwise deter the government from attempting to take full control, restrict freedoms, etc. If the government knows there's that many people with guns, and most of them will be willing to fight for their rights, they're less likely to attempt it. Not that there's any real world experience to show, as it hasn't happened yet. Wonder why not?

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>>726418554
i meant since currency has been around asshole

>>726418249
>>726418312
argentina, and yeah cops here dont do shit to enforce the law like with transit controls , they just stop the average drivers while criminals just dodge them in small bikes. the worse part is that thanks to human rights bullshit if someone enters to your home and you shoot them you basically just fucked up your life, only if the burglar had shot first and actually injured you, you would be in the right to kill him in the eyes of the law.

>>726415892
>not like other countries cause criminals can get military grade firearms

no, America is not like other countries cause people like you are too fucking stupid to know one single thing about the rest of the planet.

>>726417943
Wich is quite reasonable, because even a pedestrian is effected by traffic laws, same as gun laws, they effect eveyone

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>>726418777
Does it get much more butthurt than this? I don't think so.

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>>726418777
nice trips!

>>726418887
You mean back when you'd kill your neighbor for his wife/fur/supplies etc etc as a form of basic survival?

>>726418821
>Antarctica is safe
wow you're fucking stupid as hell

guns do not make you safe, no matter how pathetically insecure you feel without them.

>>726419102
You are a fucking idiot.

>>726419184
Ayyy, you took my advice. Good to see a little progression with you.