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It looks like socialism does work after all.

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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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It looks like socialism does work after all.
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>>726270725
Its because they dont have niggers.
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>>726270725
Norway isn't socialist you retard.
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>>726271477
>>726270725
These are CIA counter memers. Don't be fooled
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>>726271932

Haha exactly. They are a small, relatively homogeneous white country.
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>>726271477
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>>726272047

He means social-democrat, the objectively most successful form of government for quality of life.
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>>726270725
while it's far from socialism, americunts consider Canada to be socialist because of the better healthcare system, so I guess they consider Norway socialist as well
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Mfw nationalistic all white society :^)
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>>726270725
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Isn't happiness some ephemeral momentary feeling? How the fuck they can be happy ALL THE TIME just existing? Maybe it's satisfaction with life, not happiness. /thread
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>>726270725
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>>726272505
He should say that then because they are very different things.
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>>726272485

Why don't capitalists believe in rewarding hard work?

Really makes you think.
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>>726271932
Came into this thread to say exactly this.
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>>726273073

He's almost certainly an American, as they're the only people who confuse the two.
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The passengers on the Titanic were happy too....until.
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>>726271932
Heard they have tons of sand niggers
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>>726272751
What makes you think just because you are born you are entitled to any natural resources at all? Let alone work. It's called proving your worth the resources to provide for by having a job that reflects how much you contribute.
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>>726273168
It makes me consider the inflation rate. The real one.
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No, we still rule as the country that distributes the most anti-depressants per capita. Fuck off fake-danes.
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>>726270725
no wonder when we are shielding them from invasion

our way of saying sorry for WW2
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When you hear someone calling Norway "socialist"
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>>726272047
Literally every country in Europe save for Lichtenstein is(though technically they arent a country they're a tax haven)
Also
>Norway
>Happy
Tell that to the thousands of women raped every year and the hundreds dead or irreparably physically impaired for the the rest of their life
Love the propaganda though, bet the Normie's eat that shit up
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>>726273404
you have a point, but considering no one really has a choice to be born or not, why the fuck we must prove something? we didn't decide to born, but if we are - than something surely should be granted
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>>726270725
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>>726272506
>better
Too funny
Every European nation is a socialist country that has tacked on free-market capitalism because after a decade of socialism their entire economy fell apart and they needs something to keep it glued together.
Mixed market economies are a myth and European economic performances is living proof
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>>726270725
The only issue with the northern european countries' supposed happiness is that it's arguably largely due to the immense amount of antidepressants, mood elevators, and other pharmaceuticals that the native populaces use, and even if that were a factor, people would rightfully question to what extent socialism had anything to do with their happiness.

That said, surveys done for these types of things rely solely on the honesty of those answering them. I trust them to be accurate representations of reality no more than I do similar studies done to determine how many partners people of either sex have had throughout their lifetimes.
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FEEL THE BOR
And read some of it
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>>726274000
You forgot alcohol
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>>726273404
What makes you think you can deprive other people of natural resources and steal people's labour? You don't own the earth, or anyone that isn't yourself.
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>>726273949
>this is what retarded americunts who probably voted for trump actually believe
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>>726274000
>even if that were a factor
even if that weren't* a factor
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> Norway
> socialist

Let me know when they nationalise fucking everything
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>>726272485
>under socialism work is a universal duty
We have far too many dindus on welfare that will never fly here
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>>726271932
Is this true?
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>>726274199
>Nationalizing
>Socialism
Let me know when you read some Marx and Engels
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>>726273404
Why did your mother not drown you at birth, waste of precious resources. I bet you like child labour is a great idea fuck face. You were born worth nothing and you'll die being worthless.
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Or perhaps small, majority white societies work.
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>>726274000
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>>726273718
>IMO, it's still 1735 AD.
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>>726272485
Must be underage to offer such a simplistic explanation.

These 'systems' don't exist in isolation and aren't something that can just be imposed top down.
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>>726270725
it works especially well if you have oil to pay for everything
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>>726271932
this
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>>726273404
So someone who happens to be born into a rich family isn't entitled to any of that wealth correct? They didn't work for any of it.
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>>726274423
Lol wat
I'm a Marxist you punk ass bitch
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First step of being a socialist is disregarding all economic facts. Have you taken the first step?
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>>726274000
Thanks for checking the methodology of this study for me anon I haven't had time yet
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>>726274199
Let good ol' Engels say something about State ownership:
>"But, the transformation — either into joint-stock companies and trusts, or into State-ownership — does not do away with the capitalistic nature of the productive forces. In the joint-stock companies and trusts, this is obvious. And the modern State, again, is only the organization that bourgeois society takes on in order to support the external conditions of the capitalist mode of production against the encroachments as well of the workers as of individual capitalists. The modern state, no matter what its form, is essentially a capitalist machine — the state of the capitalists, the ideal personification of the total national capital. The more it proceeds to the taking over of productive forces, the more does it actually become the national capitalist, the more citizens does it exploit. The workers remain wage-workers — proletarians."
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>>726273404
basic human rights include life liberty and the pursuit of happiness/right to own property depending on whether you prefer the John Locke or the Jefferson definition

either way right to life implies not dying in the streets from starvation because of autocrats/the rich
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>>726274000
antidepressants don't create happiness, they dull sadness. otherwise people with treated depression would be the happiest people on earth, when in fact they're usually still pretty meh. You'd just rather make up bullshit reasons than admit that you might be wrong.
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>>726274056
Oh, right. I did forget that nordics on average get inebriated out of their minds on a regular basis. Thanks, Anon. Needless to say, these sorts of things are silly at best, and sinister propaganda to project a pleasant image to foreigners at worst. I don't trust any of these studies' findings one way or another whether or not I'd like to believe or disbelieve the results.
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why doesnt it surprise me in the slightest, that the "reason" according to these fucking redneck neanderthals is "they're all whites".

Obsessed with race, every fucking time.

Pathetic.
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>>726274819
Kek
Read above the quote of Engels, my dear "Marxist"
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>>726273379
thats Sweden, Norway isn't part of the EU so they don't have to deal with shit from Brussels.
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>>726274921
> communism is socialism
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>>726274921
>State ownership does not do away with capitalistic nature
>Capitalism: The private ownership and voluntary exchange of goods and services
>State-owned
>Private
w r o n g
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>>726275056
>>726273356
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>the only defense for capitalism is "muh niggers"

k
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>>726272485
it would never work in the US

too many niggers and college-aged libs that refuse to work hard
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>>726275137
If you have read the introduction to the Manifesto, you would know that communism and socialism were interchangeable terms. Still are, though, except if you think "socialism" is a whole different MoP as that bitch of Stalin said
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>>726274958
Least intelligent post of the day.

All entities are inherently private, starting from first principles. Mind and body are privately owned, as are the products of mind and body. Peolple voluntarily trade the products of their mind's and body's (labor, product) for other resources (barter, wage). All voluntary exchanges are private.
Socialism is the violent and involuntary redistribution of resources with force. So yes, it necessitates forcing socialism onto everyone. You know, to steal their property for your gain.
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Did Denmark become sadder or did Norway become happier?
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>>726275256
Well, and the entirety of economic thought.
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>>726275293
>>726274201

Automation is making hard work obsolete.

Whether you love capitalism or hate it doesn't really matter. Capitalism will become and unviable economic model as automation increases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEkT14RBzDI
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>>726275166
Capitalism is, as defined in Das Kapital, the generalized production of commodities. Your "definition" is for kids
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>>726270725
>small country where everyone is white and carries their own weight has success with socialism

wow I am stunned, surely if it worked for this type of country it will also work for one that has massive populations of permanent welfare dependents that consistently multiply themselves and demand even more living money
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>>726275056
Because race has a huge fucking deal with how peaceful places are. Are you actually fucking retarded? ISIS formed partly because of ethnic divides, all the genocides in the last 100 years have all been fueled by ethnic / racial divides. Put 3 million people of the same race together and they'll get along considerably better than 2 ethnic groups that have been fighting for centuries. Fucking autists "muh racism". Look at all the "happiest" or "wealthiest" places on Earth, none of them have really diverse populations..
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>>726271932
This guy gets it
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>>726275493
Capitalism = "voluntarily" choosing between slavery and death

Not violent or anything though!

>to steal their property for your gain.
This is the definition of an employer.
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>>726275464
>literally impossible under capitalism
What do you think he meant by this?
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>>726275020
No they don't.

Swedes don't get drunk that much because it costs an arm and a leg to go out and get drunk. I was there about a week ago and it cost me around $13usd for 2 tequila shots

It's us daned who are known as the alcholics of Scandinavia, not norway and sweden.
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>>726275662
>Capitalism, defined by Karl Marx
So you're choosing a definition by a man who had absolutely no sense of economics rather than the rest of the world and actual economists? Classic Marxist.
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>>726275493
>>All entities are inherently private
Except they aren't
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>>726270725
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>>726275429
If you've read marx's you'd know his teleological account of history and you'd know that socialism was considered a precursor to communism.

The manifesto was birdfood for semi-illiterate peasants
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They have a strong capitalist backbone, they just distribute a slightly higher level of wealth and dedicate most of it to social services
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Quick reminder Communism has killed more people in history than any other ideology
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>>726275826
Lol. So you're choosing the definition of socialism of the stalinists, probably the people who more workers and communists have killed in the whole planet?
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>>726275680
>norwegians.
>carrying their own weight.

You've never been to Norway have you?

Norwegians are generally lazy fucks who sit around while swedes do all the work, and i say this as a dane and danes never have anything nice to say about the swedes.
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>>726274000
You know which country uses by far the most antidepressants per capita? The US. By your logic, they should be the happiest country in the world. In reality, they are pretty close to the bottom.
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>>726275733
Do you really not understand the difference between voluntary and involuntary actions?

I want to buy food. I need to get money. An employer offers me a position to work in exchange for wage. I take it, because I value the wage more than the time. He values me more than the wage. Voluntary exchange.

If your """argument""" is that employers, or anyone else for that matter, is somehow financially responsible for nature - becoming hungry, then why not apply it universally? Should an employer be responsible for an earthquake? Why not a volcano? Just because existence necessitates nourishment doesn't mean you can arbitrarily pick who will feed you. Learn philosophy.
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>>726273718
> rape
> Norway
Lol, You've probably ment Sweden
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>>726276008

If you ignore all the death's caused by capitalism's for-profit wars, for-profit healthcare, for-profit pharmaceutical industry, for-profit education system, and so on.
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>>726275980
Show me where does he say such a thing. Actually, it was LENIN who said that, with no basis. Marx wrote about the lower phase and higher phase communism
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>>726270725
you know the population of Norway is only a hair greater then the population of NYC alone right?
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>>726275614
You do have the slightest trace of intelligence and realize nobody actually paid those exorbitant rates?
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>>726275831
Not an argument. The fact that you even replied shows that you acknowledge private ownership.

You replied to my post because you responded to my argument. You recognized that I was the source of the argument, so you responded to me, because I owned the action of making the argument.

Not only that, but you used your privately owned mind (somewhat) to think (kinda) and then your privately owned fingers to type out a response.
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>>726270725
Finland takes the 5th place. i'm not happy.
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>>726276257
idk, when was the last time a capitalist murdered over 40 million of their own people in a span of 25 years like Stalin did?
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>>726273718
>give opinion in public
>not know difference between Norway and Sweden
chipsen one
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>>726276008
Yeah and Spanish flu killed more people than WW1. Got any more Wikipedia tier facts?

War has probably killed the most tbf

Or maybe hate actually
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>>726275799
djævelen er en dansker og dansk er djævelens tungen toobeeonnest
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>>726270725

SSHHHHH don't tell the Proles that! We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars convincing them that they can only be happy if we give all the money to the wealthy and corporations!!
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>>726276040
No, the economist definition, the use of force to redistribute resources for the sake of a collective rather than an individual. If you don't use force, the assets are private - by definition.
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>>726276257
How dare Pfizer make money? It's almost like it's a fucking business, disgusting. There's no way to easily tell (assuming that has any merit whatsoever) There is however a way to easily estimate how many communism in itself has killed.
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>>726276430
Stalinism is state capitalism
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>>726276257
quick reminder Communism has killed more of their own citizens than any other ideology
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>>726276257
for-profit prisons lol
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>>726276106
that's capitalism and gun ownership for ya
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Rune Tribune på 4chan
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>>726276481
Spanish Flu is an ideology now? War / hate are ideologies now?
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>>726276430

Capitalism is a strictly economic system, whereas socialism is caddy-corner to a government system.

Your question is retarded. That would be like asking when the last time mathematics caused a chemical weapon to be produced.
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>>726276257
All human interactions are for subjective profit, moron. That's literally what economics is.
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>>726276554
Communism is based on the change of the ownership of the means of production, not in "redistribution". Redistribution is a lame socialdemocratic slogan
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>>726276214
>I want to not die. I need shelter. A slave owner offers me a position to be his slave in exchange for my self-ownership. I take it because I value my life more than my autonomy. Voluntary exchange.

>Learn philosophy
I've read at least one more than you have (Marx)
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>>726276414

And the Netherlands are 6th.

Fuck you Finland
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>>726276750
ayn rand tier shitpost
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>>726275493
Where is it inherently private? For animals, everything except other animals' bodies is common property. Inside families, except for few items, everything (car, house, …) is common property. In isolated social groups (voyages, expeditions, research stations, the ISS), everything except few private things are common property. So where exactly does this inherently private ownership come from?
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>>726276676
fug dig du nig
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>>726276549

Haha! I understood that reference!
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>>726276381
of course

the top tax bracket doesn't kick in until over $200,000 from 1944 onwards

and BTW, they paid a shit ton more than they do now
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>>726276273
Marx didn't write allot of prescriptive detail about where society should go, compared to his descriptive accounts of, for example capitalism. This was irresponsible as it allowed despots to utilize his ideas and allowed retards to argue about what he really meant for over 100 years.
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>>726276529
Lol nice google translate.

But i agree, danish sounds disgusting compared to the other scandi languages.
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>>726276833
bigot no jutsu
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>>726276794
I think you got them the wrong way round
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>>726276750

There are other forms of that philosophical profit you're referring to though, sir.

Philanthropy and helping others before yourself is Utilitarian and still makes you feel like you profited.
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>>726270725
It's just that the water is better, so everything from soda to coffee taste better.
- Norwegian
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>>726276865

LOL
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>>726276821
And you can quit whenever you want and find another employer or source of income / resources. A slave cannot quit. Your need isn't a mortgage on anyone's property.

>>726276948
Common property doesn't exist. It's all private. Just because you voluntarily share it doesn't mean it isn't private. The fact that you can voluntarily share something itself proves that you own it - because you're deciding the terms by which people use it.
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>>726276400
Who's air are you breathing right now, through your mouth presumably?

Your angle of philosophical bullshit isn't really relevant to this discussion. I do get what you're saying, and it is still wrong.

An entity only becomes private once others are excluded from it.
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>>726270725
>It looks like socialism does work after all.
Yes, but only in a country with no niggers.
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>>726277025
Because he wasn't a prophet nor an utopian.
But he wrote long enough to know that redistribution is for him, at most, a petit-bourgeoise slogan
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>>726276381
Nobody paid the 40% either
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>>726277193
Philanthropy isn't utilitarian. People give to charity because it makes them feel good. I give $50 to charity because I value that happiness it gives me more than the 50 dollars. That's the same motivation behind buying a movie - I value the movie more than I do the money.
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>>726277249
nice
i thought it'd be somethin' edgy desu
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>>726270725
>It looks like socialism does work after all.
Fun fact, our current government is conservative-right.
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>>726277485
Still overwhelmingly socialist on a larger scale.
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>>726270725
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>>726277284
I'm breathing my air - the air is on my property. When it leaves my property, it;s no longer my air, because I'm no longer steading it. I use my body to inhale air on my property to nourish my body - my property.
>philosophical bullshit
Philosophy is the means by which humans rationally process reality to find truth. Truth can't be bullshit.
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>>726270725
>Norway Socialist
>America Capitalist
>Norwegian corporate tax rate: 25%
>American corporate tax rate: 35%

okay...
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>>726277011

They also had to reinvest in their own companies and care about their employees in those days. It was illegal to keep foreign bank account and that shady as shit "splitting into subcompanies that invest in each others' profits " shit they do would have been completely slapped down.

When the rich sold all the jobs overseas and cut every corner they could was when this country started going downhill. (for those playing the home game, Nixon's administration first allowed it while the Reagan administration encouraged it---Reagan was a retarded patsy for the corporate billionaires and he turned the entire GOP into billionaire-worshipping imbeciles from that day forward.
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>>726276214
trying to follow your logic, but i think i became retarded after reaading it.
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>>726277159
I'm not going to bother even in quoting a different work of Engels:
>"III. Proletarian Revolution —Solution of the contradictions. The proletariat seizes the public power, and by means of this transforms the socialized means of production, slipping from the hands of the bourgeoisie, into public property. By this act, the proletariat frees the means of production from the character of capital they have thus far borne, and gives their socialized character complete freedom to work itself out. Socialized production upon a predetermined plan becomes henceforth possible. The development of production makes the existence of different classes of society thenceforth an anachronism. In proportion as anarchy in social production vanishes, the political authority of the State dies out. Man, at last the master of his own form of social organization, becomes at the same time the lord over Nature, his own master — free."
Where does he talk about redistribution of anything? Really, show me a proof, I'm interested
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>>726277685
You were retarded long before coming to this thread.
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>>726277485
In terms of economics, it's still extreme ultra left by American standards.
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>>726277283
You can't quit capitalism either. The only options are slavery or death.

>Your need isn't a mortgage on anyone's property.
But capitalists "need" for more profit is a mortgage on mine? Hmmm
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>>726277485

On a political scale that makes ours look like the fucking Nazis.

Yes, we're aware (or at least those of us who have brains are) that the Democrats are a center-RIGHT party and the GOP is a short bus in right-extremist Crazy Land.


>>726277677

American corporations don't pay anywhere near that and many of the super corporations don't pay a fucking dime.
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>>726273718
Are you high? I'm half Norwegian. My father immigrated from Norway in '78. I have tons of family there and visit there every other year.

What rape? What death and injury? That fucking country is like Everytown USA in 1950. Definitely one of the greatest places on Earth.
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>>726271477
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>>726277634

Needs to be updated to add them bitching about the regulations on destroying the environment, considering that fat fucking orange retard is doing his retarded best at dismantling the EPA, CAA, CWA and FDA.
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>>726277677
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>>726278029
95% of "American corporations" are small business who don't have a subsidiery in Ireland, so they most definitely do.
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>>726277650
Maybe try reply to the whole post?

An entity such as property only becomes private when others are excluded from it.

Of course this also assumes that all parties concerned choose to consent to your notion of private property rights.
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>>726277677
America isn't an entirely capitalistic country. Maybe more so than others, but it isn't altogether when government interventionism is rampant. A truly free market doesn't exist anywhere in the world to my knowledge. Don't mind my ignorance if I'm incorrect, but I was under the impression that capitalism was all about the government having its hands in businesses' business, and it also not giving monopolies to those it favours. I could be mistaken.
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>>726278302
seems like a typical thing that happens in almost every socialist country to me...
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>>726272485
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>>726278481
no it isnt
you can see the hands of the guy that threw the cat through the snow
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It's because they're all white.
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>>726278436
>Socialist country
Read Pannekoek
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>>726278436
Land ownership doesn't exist under socialism silly
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>>726277011
Bullshit. The majority of high income tax payers during the confiscatory period paid a lower effective rate than top earners today. The loopholes made it easy to reduce effective income to 0.
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>>726275955
This graphic is dirty with half truths.
>There are 22 homes for every homeless person
No, there are 22 times as many homes as there are homeless, homes that were built based on market speculation that they will be bought at a fair price in a few years. They aren't just rotting.
>Percentage of Millionares
I don't understand this one please enlighten me.
>Poverty 2007-2010 Rise in Poverty
Louisiana is a shithole and California has an economy that is to be compared globally. This data proves nothing of substance.
>Richest country in the world
Not true we were #7 in 2010
Near Poor is a subjective term that could apply to the entire working class under certain definitions.
>More Production Wages Stagnant
It's called more workers and machines.
Besides most of what American capitalists produce is manufactured overseas.
>Racist Criminal Justice System
This has nothing to do with Capitalism in general as several nations have capitalism, maybe american capitalism.
>How Tax Dollars are Spent
You try defending the third largest nation on the planet AND subsidize the armies of other nations as well.
Also millions of americans benefit from stipends from the US military, I personally plan on doing technical work for the Air Force.
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>>726272752
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>>726278433
>not havimg its hands***
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>>726276573
stalinism is nowhere near capitalism keks, nice try. maybe if books and thought process had a flying giant rainbow dildo with bernie sanders riding it you would partake
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>>726274104
The ONLY thing that decides what you can or can't do is what you manage to do and no one stops you from doing. In certain parts of the world or certain time periods it's completely acceptable to deprive other people of natural resources. Suppose all of a sudden the USA hit a HUGE drought and there would only be enough water for 50% of the population, what choice do you have at that point?

All government laws are just some concept humans came up with to try to create order and don't exist in the natural world. The natural law is kill or be killed, eat or be eaten.
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THIS IS AN AUTOMATTICK POST
Get it? Get it?
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>>726278625
i thought the snow looked strange... i'll delete it, thanks!

have a little performance
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>>726270725
How much do you get paid to post propaganda nonstop? Like, how Mich is your soul worth? A few shekels? Or can you live in your mom's basement forever on what you're paid?
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>>726277283
It's private because you share it and you share it because it's private. Circular reasoning.

So whose air are you breathing and whose sunlight are you seeing?
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>>726273883
>>726277677
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>>726278790
>GIBS MII DA DELUGETS, DANULD
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>>726278792
Nowhere near, but inside.
Also, Sanders sucks
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>>726270725
Fucking retard socialism only work with nationalism or you get ass fucked by the rest of the world. Here's your choices Bernie boy : Socialism or immigration
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>>726277283
In regards to the slavery thing, in that story, you chose to become a slave.
You might say that there was no alternative, but there was. Even if the alternative was not preferable to you, it was there.
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>>726278969
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>>726279122
Edgelord
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>>726278969
>>726278969
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no delicious soda for this young lad
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>>726279294
dubs don't lie
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>>726278882
>All government laws are just some concept humans came up with to try to create order and don't exist in the natural world.
Same for capitalism
>The natural law
Doesn't exist
>The ONLY thing that decides what you can or can't do is what you manage to do and no one stops you from doing
Capitalists stop me from controlling what I do with my own life
>In certain parts of the world or certain time periods it's completely acceptable to deprive other people of natural resources
Erm, yeah, all capitalist countries for example
>Suppose all of a sudden the USA hit a HUGE drought and there would only be enough water for 50% of the population, what choice do you have at that point?
What does that have to do with anything?
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>>726278996
The operating word you removed is 'can.'
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>>726272485
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it would be fun to have one of these
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>>726277650
Because something enters your property doesn't make it your property. It doesn't work for child's ball or other persons and certainly doesn't work for air either.
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>>726271477
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keep your head down!
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>>726270725
If you have enough oil then just about any retarded government would "work".
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>>726279526
Still circular reasoning
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>>726279789
>Bipartisan propaganda
okay
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>>726275113
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

Check it...sand niggers
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>>726272752

Socialism = workers' rights
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here's something you dont want to come home to every day xD
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>>726279789
>lolwtfcomics.com

communists can't meme
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>>726279932
Except Norway is not spending its oil income
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you tried
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>>726279503
dubs doesn't change the simple fact of that post being edgy
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Flare's here!
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>>726279965
No, it's not private because you can share it, its that you can share it because it's private.
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dog "walk"
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intense action
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>>726280171
kekkedee at that rape face
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when ear plugs aren't enough
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>>726273883
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>>726280450
The truth is edgy. Make a choice and stop running away from reality
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a nice event
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>>726280667
I hope the dog landed safely else that's a shitty thing to do.
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>>726281026
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>>726280768
>hold on guys while I find more half-baked facebook graphics to pigeonhole my way through the thread.
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>>726280865
I haven't been set free
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>>726270725
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the best porn
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>>726280661
So who in the family owns the house? If it was so easy that one was the owner, why is divorce so complicated?
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>>726281123
ask for refund
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>>726280768
I BELIEVE ERRYTING THAT PIC SAYS! IM BLESSED AMERICA YES!
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FLARE'S HERE!
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slide
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a beautiful construction by men
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weee
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>>726279350
>Times of Israel
Invalid input
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feels
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>>726278969
8 American dollars per hour.
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>>726281079
I thought it was the Republicans that were against large government because that would be socialist
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>>726281535
looks even better when it's imbedded in a building
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>>726281150
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>>726281767
here's a building
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and here's snow
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>>726281229
Marriage binds both people to each others property in some way. The distribution of the property in a divorce is dealt with in a negotiation.
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>>726270725
cool now tell me what important or iconic things has norway accomplished in the last 200 years? Go on im waiting
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this is how you do it
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>>726281759
Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, all have the same goal. They just move at a different speed.
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>>726281970
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Socialism doesnt work because the second the normally poor acquire wealth they turn against what they originally believed in to further their own personal gain. People do NOT deserve equal rights to wealth.
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remember this old game?
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>>726281150
>>726281150
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>>726279122
Too bad you'll always be edgy for saying something like this.
You're actually right.
Socialism only ever really works if you've nationalism with it.
Maybe not necessarily ethno-nationalism, but civic nationalism.
You need some sort of cultural cohesion or else you become present/future europe.
Hitler ruined nationalism for generations by murdering people, (not just jews, all you hear/read about is the poor Jews who're targeted) but somehow the many communists who murdered en masse didn't stigmatise communism to almost everybody the way that Hitler did national socialism.
Yes, I'm le nawzee.
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/a/
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>>726282248
>Old game
Still play it
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>>726282203
>killed his own people, disgraced his own country and added fuel to white hate all in one
i guess that's 1 accomplishment..
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>>726282224
> to further their own personal gain
You mean, erm, not wanting to starve to death?
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>>726282256
>What are the motivations of success
Its like the artist for this has no children.
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>>726282430
Thank you for keeping my thread bumped to page 1. Couldn't have done it without you :)
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wicked skills
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>>726275702
You're forgetting the bigger divide: religion. When every group of people lives their lives by a book that tells them to kill people who don't follow that book, it tends to start conflict.
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>>726282644
no problem man! sweden's got your back
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>>726275702
America has a diverse population
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>>726282698
>>726275702

He's also forgetting that societies with higher wealth inequality are also more violent, and it's probably the most important factor in determining violence within a society.
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>>726281950
But by your definition that common property inside a family does not exist and is in fact private property of one of the parties, why would be any negotiation necessary? It's property of one of them.
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>>726280865
I was a CEO. If my pay were 475 times the people I hired I would have been out of business in less than a week.
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>>726270725

cause it's all white people.
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>>726282886
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>>726280308
Because there isn't much anymore.
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>>726271477
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>>726275702
Yeah the formation of ISIS has nothing to do with socioeconomic conditions
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>>726271932
Somebody with some common fucking sense around here.
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>>726282463
No the greed that follows alongside wealth, which is an indisputable fact by just looking at history. The only people who deny it have never had access to it and therefore believe that the people who have it are inherently worse people even though they would do the exact same thing.
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>>726274308
At least the people* own this boot.

*the people now in the 0.5% that runs everything
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>>726280844
But that's exactly what kings did back then.
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>>726283256
Wealth is relative.
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wrong, bhutan is and always will be the happiest country, and they have ethnic cleansings
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>>726282644
> wince at the stupid
Productivity improvements doesn't mean you're "working harder". In fact, nearly all improvement comes from better tools. Better manufacturing equipment, better processes, better software, better transportation networks, etc.
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>>726283385
so you're saying there's no difference?
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>>726283000
What is marriage to you? Some kind of game to sift through fuck buddies? The point of marriage has been to move wealth around, in modern times its expanded to give women power over the property under the trust in the fact that they are married and have mutual gains.
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>when you cant help but slut even though you know you shouldnt have
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>>726270725
>Hello america I'm a rich guy
>I own a massive company
>My company makes a net profit of over 800 million dollars per year
>As CEO of this company, I'm rolling in millions per year in personal income baby
>The trick is to underpay employees and neglect to give them benefits
>.......
>What's that?
>You want me to pay my employees a reasonable wage?
>You want me to pay more taxes? You say that it's because I'm owe more to society for it allowing me to get to where I am today?
>You think that MY company should be responsible for keeping its employees in a livable condition

>EXCUSE ME
>WHAT THE FUCK
>I WORKED TO GET WHERE I'M AT TODAY, AND IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA KEEP ME FROM GETTING MY SECOND YACHT JUST SO MY EMPLOYEES CAN AFFORD RENT NEXT MONTH YOU'RE DEAD ASS WRONG

>Oh HELL no
>HELL to the fuck no
>I gotta call the corporatist politicians, they'll keep me from contributing my fair share to society
>They'll brainwash people into thinking that people should be allowed to struggle working for me every day while I reap the benefits of putting them in that struggle
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>>726283011
Wouldn't you just be forced to invest personal profits back into the business? Don't be so quick to shut down
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>>726276106
this is only due to the corrupt pharmaceutical companies who pay doctors based on how many prescriptions they give out, same as how cops get paid more for giving more tickets.
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>>726283142
that has something to do with it, but it's worth noting that islam is the only religion that explicitly tells its followers to terrorise nonbelievers, and unprovoked, too

something that may or may not be relevant when pondering why there are plenty of muslim terrorists (the 911 hijackers, for example) who are affluent, and yet STILL commit violent acts while autistically screeching about how good their god is
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>>726271932
>Norway
>no niggers

bitch pls
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>>726283448
Were all playing the same game some heritages have just done it better.
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>>726284006
The game is rigged

It's also something we invented and can just as easily get rid of
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>when you slut too hard
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