The 1911 is the best pistol ever

>>725708540
Since the first Glock was designed in 1979, not all that many.
I would suggest the 1911 has killed far more Americans since it first came out than the Glock.

>>725708910
Exactly 1911 kills all and wins wars, glock is plastic garbage!

>>725709192
"They create a desolation and call it peace"
Tacitus.

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any more glock fanboys want to get rekt? fags

>>725709817
And as Marcus Aurelius said holding Browning's invention in hand.

"Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present."

and so fourth the 1911 has been slaying foes and putting modern firearms to shame for over a century!

P226 is probably the most comfortable pistol I've ever used, but my dads rock island 1911 never ceases to amaze me.

>>725710663
God bless you, I was on another thread talking about how I took a $400 RIA 1911 put $600 into it and have it out perform my Springfield 1911

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>>725708540
>MFW all non govt issued "1911" are fakes or "variants" heralded by tools as "muh nineteen eleven"

I find it to be the most aesthetically pleasing to me as well as very comfortable to hold. Reliable and been in use for over 100 years because it's close to perfection.

>>725708540
It was in 1911.

>>725712334
Well its a good thing the CMP is going to start selling off Military Surplus 1911s.

>>725712953
I missed the boat on the M1 firesale, I can't miss this!

>>725709873
Says the fag that has never even shot a gun before

>>725712544
>close

Glock perfection

>>725713066
You done fucked up. I bought a field grade M1 Garand for $500.

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>>725708540
2nd best

I too like only having 7 rounds in my gun. No, that's not right... Double-stack. All. Day. Long.

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>>725713167

>>725713281
>Desert Eagle
IT'S TIME TO STEP ASIDE, BOYS.
THIS IS NOW A DISCUSSION FOR MEN.

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desert eagle is best it shoots fireballs

1911's handle like shit, by far the most inaccurate handgun I've shot

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>>725713384
If you had said 10mm I would of believed you. But because you spouted off a fucking pleb tier kid gun I'll take it you have no idea what you are talking about. And are as they Nogunz

>>725713384
DE? I've shot one and didn't much care for it. The gun shoots okay at best. Honestly, it's a status symbol. My Ruger Super Blackhawk (.44mag) shoots so much better.

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>not realizing the utter dominance of the Sig Sauer P226 over the 1911 and the glock because you're all just bandwagon fags

>>725713778
10mm I've shot and loved. Sadly, there aren't any decent ones on Kalifornia's "safe" handgun roster and there were other things I wanted to get before the assholes in charge closed the single-shot exemption.

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>>725713971

why nigger repellers are called pistols

>>725714035
>nigger repellers

Sides are gone

>>725714035
I thought they were called jobs

>>725713871
it broke your arms and made you deaf fag

>>725713971
I prefer the GSR over the P226. The gun I love most for comps is my double-stack STI .38 Super.

My makarov is 20 years old and will out shoot a glock and a 1911.

>>725714035
Because "gat" was already taken for "nigger repeller turned sideways"

>>725714073
Nah. The only gun to cause any kind of lasting hearing trouble was my .458 SOCOM AR-15. Everything else is background noise. As for my arms, they were just fine, but I appreciate your concern.

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>>725708540
I've been saying this for years.

You know what happens when I go down to the firing range with a 1911? The cops shooting glocks look at me funny because it's really loud.

Let me tell you all a story. Take a knee kids. One time in NY there was a swat officer who refused to arm with a glock. That same swat officer once time encountered a terrorist. He pointed his 1911 at him and said, "look, if you don't throw down your weapon, I'm gonna put some big ones in you." The terrorist took one look at the size of the hole on the front of the 1911 and threw down his puny little .38.

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=J0agr3D2rNQ

You could watch my show. But seriously. That is a very true story.

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>>725714475
I've always been partial to this.

>>725714475
wrong link bruh

>>725708540
Yeah as a 1911 shooter myself - you need to buy the WWII style GI issue. The kimbers tend to lock up. When you shake it you should hear the gears rattling around. That's a real 1911. The match grade stuff is for dorks who want to shoot at a target. When it locks up and your life depends on it, dont say I didnt warn you.

>>725714682
https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=J0agr3D2rNQ

>>725714730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0agr3D2rNQ

>>725714683
youtube bug apparently

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>>725712953
going to be around $800 I'm pumped!
>>725713679
maybe its the shooter that sucks, a compensated 1911 is the most accurate hand gun out there.
>>725713075
Indiana shoot right off my porch...
just bought a rec 7 gen2 a few weeks ago faggot, nicest Ar out there right now.
>>725713228
love the highpower I have a buddy that uses one in competition.

>>725715082
post recommended compensator then

I'm happy with my R1.

Don't need a double stack mag when you have a 45 slug coming out. If you need more than 7 rounds in less than a minute out of a pistol then you should have brought KY instead because your ass was getting raped anyway.

9mm can be fun to at the range, I hope to get a hi power and CZ 75b at some point and currently are working to pay off a VP9.

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>>725714475
Haha thats why they say 1911 means "fuck off" in every language
>>725714683
I think the Kimbers are ghetto P.o.s. you get better quality with RIA

>>725715314
kek at image

>>725714683
>>725714683
no. Just no.
I own a rock island, a kimber, a Springfield , and a colt gold cup and I can count the number of jams on one hand after 5k+ rounds fired. Locking up and 1911 should never be in the same sentence, simply because they don't. It's the Remington 870 of pistols. A1 or otherwise. And the jams ive experienced were always due to sub par ammunition, never the match grade parts or the polished feed ramps, and while I was deployed I never experienced a single misfire, misfeed, or any kind of mechanical failure, period.

>>725714181
can't tell if troll, or stupid.

>>725713971
in most cases you're right, .357 SIG is an excellent cartridge. They're good enough for the secret service. But dollar for dollar I could assemble a superior 1911 or glock, and save a ton on ammunition as well.

>>725713167
no you didn't.

I bought my first and only gun a while back: glock 17.

I think I could have done better. It's so chunky and heavy.

>>725708540
Maybe it's a national symbol for u americafags, but it's for sure not the best pistol!

I mean it depends what u need the gun for!

>>725715314
>Kimber
>Ghetto
>P.o.s.

Your opinion is invalid, because it's demonstrably false.
I own both and while Rock island makes the best sub $500 1911 GI on the market, its not comparable to a modern production number in terms of range performance or mechanical tolerances, sorry bud.

>>725716866
kimber* not number.

>>725716573
okay, so name a better all around production pistol, taking into consideration: price, reliability, availability, accuracy, caliber, pedigree, ease of use, frame design, follow up shot accuracy, sight design and layout, ease of disassembly and field maintenance, and part interchangeability. Go.

>>725717296
>pedigree
fag

>>725717877
there's a reason there's been no major design changes in over a century, friend. Maybe 'combat history' is a more apt category?

>>725717296
that´s a lot to consider, u can´t get oll of this at the same time.

Price,reliability, ease of use, ease of disassembly field maintenance, part interchangebility -> then it is the glock

accuracy, follow up shot, sight desighn -> i would go for the hk usp, sig p250/p226

how is pedigree important?

so as a regular policeman i would be fine with the glock.

btw u forgot mag size, which is a point where the 1911 sucks

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>>725708540
Army disagrees, all about the Sig now and honestly, I'm inclined to agree with them.

>>725719278
I'm not saying it has to have 10/10 in every category its just what should be considered. I have 11 round capacity with my 1911's (10+1). If you need more than 11 rounds then you should invest in a plate carrier and running shoes instead of a pistol. Pedigree is referring to combat history and if the weapon has been proven on the battlefield, few if any can compare to the 1911 in that aspect. Does this clarification change your answers?

>>725719589
Marine raiders are still issued 4.25" barrelled 1911's. And many many operators opt for the 1911 over issue pistols. When I was an active duty ranger (3rd battalion) I put in my paperwork to carry a 1911 before my first deployment and never touched another pistol aside from proficiency qualifications. As did many of the men I served with that were allowed to carry sidearms.

>>725708540
That's not a SIG P210

>>725708540
>be american
>get shot by 911
tiptop kek

>>725708540
The P250 is the best pistol. Every CS Player knows

yes, a little. cause i was thinkin of the 7 round mag. 1911´s aren´t that important over here in europe. round count > 10 is always ok, 7 is not much.

Don´t get me wrong, I don´t think of the 1911 as a bad pistol at all, it was pointing the way to modern pistols.

I just think that nowadays there are better designs available.

The glock was developed as a simple, cheap, reliable pistol which needs little maintnance and doesnt even have a safety lever.
You know, where I live, a policeman shoots his gun maybe once in his entire career and therefore a clock is good enough.
If your looking for a nice trigger, good accuracy etc. a glock is maybe not the best choice.

And for the hk usp/sig´s. The usp is a successor to the mk23, which i suppose prove itself due to excessive testing. and the sig´s a also in use for a long time in US special ops.

So the 1911 is still a good alrounder i guess, but i think if you know what u really need, you can find better fitting pistols

>>725720479
>>725720000
forgot to notice you

>>725717296
M92fs, and soon the Sig P320

>>725708540
that's not a 92fs

>>725714035
/Thread

>>725720000
I've never understood this justification of capacity (the 10+1). Like how often are you really sliding one into the chamber before putting the full clip in? How many people honestly do that or keep their gun ready like that?

92FS. Is this really an argument?

>>725720466
It's obviously tec9

>>725720733
Thats how I carry my LC9s, 1 in the chamber and 7 in the magazine.

>>725720733
You don't slide it in first Captain never owned a gun you put the clip in rack the slide back and Adam extra bullet to the clip.

>>725720733
i think the only time you are carrying full capacity(+1) is when u reload while still one in the chamber

>>725720836
Okay either way dickhead who is really doing that

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>>725720918
Lots of people. Put mag in gun, rack slide, pull out mag and put a round in. Now you have 7+1 or 10+1. Its a good idea for those who carry 1911's and compact pistols.

>>725720466
One could argue that it is the best gun in the game when you faction in the cost, kill probability and kill reward. 2nd best is UMP

>>725720733
well I carried in an active warzone, so always. 1 in the chamber, hammer at full cock, safety on. And in my retirement I practice the same setup for my edc, albeit a more modified, expensive 1911, and ordinarily carried concealed in a crossdraw shoulder rig under my jacket or at 4 o'clock in an iwb holster during the warmer months. I ALWAYS have one in the chamber. If you have to chamber a round before you're ready to discharge you better hope your assailant is 50+ feet away or you're not getting a shot off before he's on top of you, period.

>>725720836
its called a magazine, not a clip, newfag.

>>725721090
My 2 favorite weapon combo for low money. Later ak with tec9 is very nice

>>725721113
Alright I guess now I know. Thanks

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>>725713228
Very sexy gun

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Cz master race

>>725720647
>>725720698
>>725720777
I hope this is samefagging, and I hope you're joking. The only reason they issued these in the military was because we got them for free basically from Italy. I had a 92 jam on me in 2 different qualifications which is what compelled me to file the affidavit for my 1911 in Iraq. And it probably saved my life. I've seen more Beretta's jam in that desert than I care to count.

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>>725708540
Sure, if you're a pussy.

>>725721332
no problem, friend. And also, if someone is within 25 feet of you, you won't have enough time to draw and fire a LOADED pistol from your hip into your assailants center mass. And at that distance over 80% of rounds fired do not find their target, if you have to chamber a round beforehand, you're dead. It's really that simple. Scary, but very true.

>>725721594
another point where I think the glock can perform. You just draw and shoot. No safety lever, always chambered and safe

and yes I´m from austria

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Nothing like the 50 cal

>>725721897
also has a very heavy trigger pull to compensate for the lack of a safety, and while I understand this isn't true for your average shooter, I was trained to switch off my safety while drawing my sidearm when I was enlisted, so it adds no time to my holster to discharge rate. Again, this isn't true for most people. But can be taught with little effort.

>>725721497
Just joining the thread. What safeties does a Sig Sauer 357 have? Glock safties can be kinda buggy

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>>725708540

NEIN!

>dumkopf

>>725722126
except that's a .44
top kek

>>725722168
glocks don't have safeties newfag.

>>725722143
yeah, totally agree. that´s why i mentioned before that i think the glock is a good choice for the average policeman(at least in austria)

>>725722263
Look, I've only fired a Glock once, so pull the cucumber out of your ass.
My point still stands: Where is the safety on a Sig Sauer 357?

>>725722235
Shut up

>>725722377
It looks like it's just above where your thumb would be if you're right handed, in that picture.

>>725722318
no, you're completely right. For an officer (anywhere not just Austria) the Glock is more than adequate in 9mm and .40 (.45 isn't issued anywhere yet to my knowledge.) I was never arguing that, I was saying in an overall comparison, there isn't much that can compare with a well manufactured, modern production 1911.

>>725722377
its a thumb safety above and behind the trigger guard, at the top of the grip, some models they're ambidextrous, some for right handed shooters only, (SIG's P series in general not the .357 SIG specifically.) The p226 and p229 are identical safety wise.

The Black Plague killed a lot of people, too.
That doesn't make it a good handgun.

1911s DO win wars... if you don't count the Sherman, Thompson, Garand, M1 Carbine, and the M2, and if your enemy is armed with bolt action rifles.

>>725722529
and the .50AE desert eagle is a useless expensive paperweight, I'd sooner carry a .22 bobcat than that hideous piece of Israeli shit.

>>725722569
ok i think we agree then.
i also agree with your point on the 1911.

But let me know, what do you think about the HK USP/mk23 and the sig p250?

>>725722126
I bet you never even seen one In real life. That gun is prouned to jam and has very little application in real life scenarios.
Allso if you want to shoot torpedos out of a hand gun just get the Smith & Wesson 500.

>>725722848
/Thread
at least theres someone in here wjth common sense lelelel

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>>725708540
Because how many Jews did 1911 kill?

>>725722848
this.

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USP is the best. Like all other HK products

Lever-actions are fun.

>>725723292
When you buy one of these, do you have to request a threaded barrel?

Also, why is it so hard to find a threaded barrel for a 1911?

>>725723340
So is gangrape for 3 outta 4 people

>>725708540
18+1 vs 7+1... Yea, it's a no brainer. Glock wins in any scenario outside a dusty apocalypse where you can't possibly keep your gun maintained.

>>725723067
I think so too.
The USP in .45 Acp is a gold star pistol. I own one and it outperforms nearly every pistol in my collection in factory form, (aside from a polished feed ramp, and upgraded tri. Iron sight's). 10/10 in my opinion, the MK23 is too bulky for my tastes, my USP is the compact model and even in full frame form is too big for my liking. Still the mk23 is battlefield proven, seeing extensive use by the SEAL's. Sig is one of my top 5 firearm manufactures, personally I prefer the p226/229 over the 250, but I've yet to fire a Sig that I didn't thoroughly enjoy. They are A+ in quality across the board, the US secret service is issued Sig's chambered in supersonic .357 sig, so that really speaks to the quality of their firearms.

Parabellum P08 is the best choice.

>>725722126
50cals are snipers, pal

>>725723437
Correct. I just like the *aesthetic* of lever actions

>>725723505
my 1911's are all 10+1. Wilson combat high capacity magazines, barely over factory profile. 11 rounds is more than enough.

>>725723505
That explains why the vietcong kept the americans at bay, right? Its not like the usa had an extremely expensive rifle produced strictly for that engagement, and the vietcong were using old ass 20 year old rifles.

>>725723578
I dont disagree with you, i feel lever actions are top tier. They are incredibly reliable and can handle high loads.

>>725723578
>>725723437
I usually use a bolt action

>>725723576
stupid.
Its called a .50AE or auto express, and it's a pistol cartridge.
The rifle cartridge is a center fire .50bmg its 12.7X99mm.
Lrn2gun

>>725723654
Oh man sorry. We're good I hope.

>>725723697
>action express

Please learn a thing or two

>>725723735
Any fan of a lever action is fine by me.

>>725723505
>muhgun works as long as its always in perfectly maintained clean condition
code for "it's dogshit"

>>725723602
"More than enough," huh?

There's no such thing. Maybe if you only have to deal with one assailant, it's "enough," but...

More rounds = better, period.

It's kinda nuts to even suggest otherwise. There is a reason police departments and the FBI issue polymer guns with double-stack magazines, not metal 1911s.

>>725723608
to be fair, the original m16 variant wasn't great, and the AK-47 has and always will be a brilliant, cheap, extraordinarily reliable rifle with huge stopping power and grade school simplicity to boot.

>>725723820
Accurate post if I ever saw one, good on you anon.

>>725723741
you're right, I didn't reread before I posted. Fair play, even though I'm sure you googled it in an attempt to prove that you're not firearm illiterate. ;)

>>725723820
Now apply everything you said about the ak to the 1911 and see if it makes sense.

For added points,compare glocks and armalite rifles

>>725723895
I knew your post was wrong, but i did double check. Only reason i knew it was action express is because of vinnie jones speech in snatch

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Than this is twice as good?

>>725708540
It's a contender. I like me a comically high caliber, like the .50 deagle, though.

>>725723961
Fuck you, i fired one of these in italy and i have wanted one ever since

>>725723900
The difference in reliability between an AK and the early M16s was massive because of the M16s direct impingement gas recoil system.

The difference between a Glock and a 1911's reliability is far less pronounced. Both are reliable to the point that they will basically never fail; the 1911 is known to deal with dirt and grime slightly better and it's thinner and easier to conceal, but for most gun users neither of those things are primary concerns.

If you're using a pistol in the line of duty, it'll almost certainly be in an urban environment, and you will have a drop leg holster or something, making concealability a moot point.

>>725723799
sure, if they made a 1911 with a 20 round capacity I'd be first in line. But consider; stopping power, likelihood of malfunction, follow up speed, reload time, etc. The reason law enforcement carries glocks isn't because they're the best, that's just not true, Glock offered the cheapest contract for a weapon that was good enough and extremely simple to operate while being very cheap to maintain. And the 9x19 is much cheaper than the .45acp when you're buying millions of rounds.

>>725722126
>Made in Japan
Nice airsoft gun faggot

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>>725723697
No, it's .50 AE or African Eliminator and yes it is a pistol cartridge capable of penetrating the thicker and more bullet deflective black African skull.

>>725723959
just giving you a hard time, friend.

>>725724038
They sell them in the states

>>725724103
All of those advantages are extremely important to consider, especially ammunition commonality, when choosing a firearm for oneself.

Reliability in a dust storm is less so.

Also, the .45 ACP and 10mm Auto Glock variants still have much bigger magazines than the 1911, even the commando versions.

>>725722848
>b-but muh big bullets

>>725724195
Fucking, where?

>>725724310
the states

>>725724292
That's what the S&W 460V is for.

All other "big pistol bullets" just pale in comparison.

>>725723895
>he knows more, so he has to have had googled it, r-right?

>>725724237
I understand why you like glocks, but please understand me when i say, the number of bullets arent the most important thing.

With the nice "out the box" weight and feel of a 1911 i can easily get the rounds i need to where they are going. With a glock, its too light, too small, and too weak (the 9mm is the only version i fired, i admit)

There was a video of a man in chicago getting robbed by 3 niggers at a gas station. He only needed 4 found to dispatch 2 as the 3rd ran off.

He was carrying a revolver i believe, so take that at face value

>>725724356
Which state, what gun store? Last time i checked, it was classified a a title 3 unable to import cause it fires 2 bullets at once.

I know you are fucking lying, i wanna make you work for your lie

>>725724310
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/411556382/redirect

http://www.armslist.com/posts/2660286/upper-peninsula-michigan-handguns-for-sale--af2011-a1-double-barrel-pistol--45acp--pre-orders--ss

>>725724237
if they issued the .45 variants we'd be having a different discussion, but as of now they don't. And depending on the application I'd likely even agree to some extent, but speaking anecdotally, 11 rounds is plenty. I was deployed 3 times when I was enlisted, (twice to Iraq once to Afghanistan) and personally I never had an engagement that would've been drastically altered by 6-7 more rounds in my magazine. But a jam? That could've cost me my life. I've seen glocks jam in the sand, I NEVER saw or had my 1911 jam during any of my deployments. So in that aspect I'm biased, but I do understand and respect your opinion as well.

>>725724539
One is "out of stock" the other is taking preorders from 2014

Show me an active listing.

>>725724382
one word, casull.
454 or 464
thank Me later.

>>725724479
Number of rounds is the most important thing, I assure you. Stopping power comes in at a close second, but the differences between the common pistol cartridges' terminal ballistics are pretty minimal unless you throw barriers and kevlar into the equation. Where you hit the target and how many times you hit them matters a lot more than what you hit the target with.

As long as the gun doesn't jam, nothing else matters, really. You aren't going to be sharpshooting with a handgun, accuracy is unimportant. At most distances that you're going to be able to reliably hit something with a handgun, you wouldn't even need to look down the irons to hit a man-sized target. If you need accuracy, that's what a rifle or pistol-caliber carbine is for.

I'll give you ergonomics, but you can get used to anything if you practice with it. Or you could just replace the grip with one you prefer. The only thing you can't do is make the gun thinner.

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>>725724525
http://gearsofguns.com/arsenal-firearms-double-barrel-1911-pistol-for-sale-in-the-usa/

>>725724658
The .460 case is literally a necked up .454 casull magnum

its terminal ballistics perform far better though because of the amount of gunpowder and the neat ass plastic ballistic tips that are kinda like soft points

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>>725721073
>>Its a good idea for those who carry 1911's and compact pistols.

actually that's a very bad idea and unsafe unless you are ready to shoot.

>>725724570
If you're talking about fighting in the sand, I might actually agree that I'd prefer a 1911 in that circumstance, but for most of us that is not and will not be the case.

>>725708540
Can you shoot underwater with this? I think you can with glock. Does it have extended mag? I think glock has that too. How about full auto mode?

>>725708540
I'd love to have one.
>tfw living in cucked EU

>>725724775
if I'm not mistaken the .464 can be purchased in forms that contain 25 more grains than the .460, correct?

>>725724685
Well i have to disagree with you on two points.

Accuracy is way more important than number of rounds. Its like saying if you get into the thick of it, just fire wildly til they are dead cause you have 20 rounds.

No, i do not accept that. Most time when you need to draw (this is for civvies, not cops) it will be when you are robbed on street or home invaded. I don't live in a mansion, and i dont remember someone robbing me at 10 feet.

If you have someone with a gun on you demanding your wallet, 2 rounds of 45 will end it. I cant say the same for a 9mm hot load that passes through like a knife. A 45 will hit you and knock your ass down.

And hell, if gun reliability is so important, the 1911 takes it cause its reliable even in a dust storm.

>>725724827
Anythijg can have an extended mag faggot.

>>725724749
This is literally a blog post. The comments are all asking where to but it and the fucking blog says "we dont know"

This is next level retarded

>>725724812
as I said, I'm biased. Something about having a weapon never fail when my life very much depended on it created a bond and familiarity that I'd imagine is akin to the relationship between a father and son.
I just can't and won't ever trust another pistol like I do my 1911's because of that. But as I said, you do raise a valid point and I do understand and respect it.

>>725725092
Than do your own googlin faggot

>>725725130
What do you know, they dont sell them in the usa.

>>725724994
A .45 won't knock somebody down. On the contrary, the difference between getting hit by a .45 and a 9mm is minimal at best - far less of a pronounced difference than that between getting hit by a 9mm FMJ vs a 9mm JHP, for instance.

You don't fire wildly, obviously, but again, you aren't going to be sharpshooting with a handgun. You only need the gun to be accurate enough to hit a man-sized target at reasonable distance.

It's like, if the 1911 shoots sub-MOA at 50 feet, does that really matter? If you're wielding a handgun rather than a long gun, you're likely not going to be able to spend time lining up a shot in the first place.

>>725725163
And youve never been to italy

>>725725170
well, partially correct.
The VC from a 230g fmj .45 and a 125 9x19 won't vary a ton

But can you say the same of a 185g hollow point .45 and a hydrashock 9x19?

The gel speaks for itself there.

>>725725302
top fucking kek

>>725724994
being this autistic
2k17

This thread is AIDS incarnate. Sure everyone can have a favorite caliber. And we can all say that mag cap, round selection, stopping power; is what matters most. what matters is shot placement and practice. If i have a 380 or a 22lr revolver and I pull it out on someone and plug them in the heart or face... Probably dead. Dead af fam. If you pull out a Glock and put 19 rounds into their arms and legs....They might not be. Pick the round and firearm that works best for you. If you hit 10/10 with a high point every time then that's a good gun to you. If you need a nighthawk custom then get that. But practice and shot placement.

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See this, alright?
Old man gave me that when I was in grade 7, seen a lot of action.
9mm, safety always off.

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>>725725495

>>725724994
>Most time when you need to draw (this is for civvies, not cops)
as a civilian U DON`T HAVE TO DRAW WEAPONS. gosh, is that so hard to get for you americans?
that´s the only reason so many people get shot in america cause everyone thinks he needs "self-defence"

i love shooting as well but i wouldn´t carry a gun in public, there´s just no need to

>>725725470
Finally a reasonably sane person.

I would say reliability matters as well tbh.

>>725725470
very true, if you look at it as a weapon system containing a shooter and a gun, the shoote is the most important part

>>725725470
The difference is with a real gun if you shoot someone in the leg, you'll take the whole leg off.
They won't be able to shoot back because of the shock.

>>725724994
>Accuracy is way more important than number of rounds

I disagree, you see your problem is that you're betting your life for 1 attacker to come up to you. In the real world we hope for the best but prepare for the worst, meaning a multiple attacker scenario is very real and this is why number of rounds will more than likely save your life.

When most self defense gun use take place less than 15 feet, accuracy won't be an issue. A $4k 1911 vs a $400 Glock 19 at 10 feet, the accuracy won't be an issue.

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>>725725736
For sure!

pic related

>>725725302
Eh, one of these i can prove, the other is bullshit made up by a faggot in a gun thread.

Do show me where its for sale

>>725725622
>i love shooting as well but i wouldn´t carry a gun in public, there´s just no need to

Obviously you don't understand. When every criminal out there carries illegally and is out for your wallet, sister's or mom's pussy, you will understand that the only way to level the field is to carry yourself.

If you're from Europe, I don't expect you to understand.

>>725725435
>Being a faggot to someone who disagrees with you

Amazing how you decided to act uncivil

>>725725470
until you factor in the fact that over 80% of fired shots are missed at point blank range in real life. Then things like stopping power do matter. Sorry to burst your bubble but the likelihood of you hitting someone where you intend to in almost laughable. I have 8 years military service and 3 combat deployments under my belt and even I wouldn't be able to accurately place shots on a target within 30 feet of me from a draw. I could get them on target but I'd be kidding myself if I said I could hit someone in the head or any specific part of their upper body period. Just doesn't work like that, friend.

>>725726083
You just need more practice, simple as that.
Trust me, I do this professionally.

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>>725726083
That's why you just have to be psycho, get rid of that certain human instinct.

>>725726083
>>725726083
>>725726083
SOOO much this. i was typing out pretty much the same shit until i saw you best me to it.. People seriously watch too much TV Hollywood bullshit what branch u serve in?

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>>725726068
Nah kid, I have (actually) used guns before is all.

>>725726208
>You just need more practice

You can't practice getting ambushed, you can't practice the adrenaline rush that comes with knowing you could die, you can't practice seeing someone pulling a knife at you and demanding money.

Target practice is nice and forms good habits. But even then people die when drawing their guns in a self defense situation cause they simply forgot to flick the safety off.

>>725726041
I am from europe and you´re right, I really didn´t understand that USA is such a sandnigger country where I have to be afraid of getting robbed or raped all the time.

Even during our current rapefugee crisis here there is really no rational reason to carry a gun.

If someone threatens me with a weapon if i don´t give him my wallet I JUST HAND IT OVER and dont risk getting shot

>>725725650
I'll agree there. But anyone that thinks someone that carries a 1911 is asking for a jam in the day to day carry is a fool. A Reasonable gun well maintained that you carry for your life should be cleaned.

>>725725736
The shooter has to be the most important part. A car with no driver will do nothing.

>>725725736
Idk if you mean a triple 7 or like the "muh 45" people definitely are a bit more resilient then most give them credit for

>>725726208
I'm guessing you missed the 3 combat deployments?? You see I've actually engaged and shot men in real life, not on a screen. And I can tell you without a doubt that you cab train on paper targets , blindfolded, in the snow every day for 10 years and it'll never prepare you for the real thing. I had nearly perfect marks and weapons qualifications and it didn't matter one bit once those bullets were flying past my head and my adrenaline was pumping full bore. I REALLY did it professionally. As in for a living. You still stick by your previous statement?

>>725708540
>single action
>best ever

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>725726431
Of course you can.
Being a mindless military drone might not teach you that.

>>725726613
wut? Go home.

>>725726297
yep.
And 75th Ranger regiment 3rd batallion.

>>725726497
>I am from europe and you´re right, I really didn´t understand that USA is such a sandnigger country where I have to be afraid of getting robbed or raped all the time.

We have fewer sandniggers than you now, we have regular niggers. But this groups of people despite being a minority (I think it's 19%),mcommit over 50% of crime.

Home invasions are a thing too, guns deter crime. When you know a homeowner is likely to keep an AR15 in their home,mall of the sudden their TV is less appealing.

>Even during our current rapefugee crisis here there is really no rational reason to carry a gun.

I'll wait, you'll see soon enough. I don't live in fear but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

>If someone threatens me with a weapon if i don´t give him my wallet I JUST HAND IT OVER and dont risk getting shot

Sure, give the money but in some cases they aren't after your money. Ever hear of kidnappings? Rape? Or murder?

>>725726614
I'm not who you replied to, I'm the ex ranger anon that replied to you. I wasn't your run of the mill infantrymen, Rangers are elite infantry units, and we received much more extensive combat and reaction training than 13b's and it still didn't make a difference the first time I was in a firefight. You just don't understand, not that you should. You'll never understand until you're actually in that situation. Its that simple, friend.

>>725726614
I replied >>725726431

Hate to break it to you but I was never in the military

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>>725726841
Thank god I live in a country where there is no need for a gun.

If I recall, the 1911 does not have a safety. It has that back-of-the-handle thing instead, which is not skoocom.

That's pretty bad, in my book.

>>725726249
what does that mean? I don't have any qualms about taking a life, its simply physiology not a mental block that can be overcome with the right attitude.

>>725726700
>SINGLE
>ACTION
>BEST

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>725727334
it has 3 safeties, a thumb/drop/and grip safety.

>>725708540
Ya know... if you didn't spend all your money on your little toys, you could move to a place without niggers.

>>725727334
you recall wrong. The 1911 has a thumb safety. You're talking about the beaver tail which is a secondary safety mechanism. Glocks don't have safeties.

>>725726083
I'm well aware of the 20 foot rule. But almost all situations that involve a weapon being drawn are well under 7 yards. If you drew on someone doing something 30 feet away you would be arrested for brandishing. If you look at the majority of self defense videos it mostly goes as follows. dude comes up, victim recognizes threat, draws one handed, fires under 10 feet. Center mass shots are what you are going for just simply because you will shoot for it instinctively .

>>725727469
glocks have 2 safeties, a trigger and drop safety

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>G L O C K
>P E R F E C T I O N

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>>725727416
correct, assuming drop is referring to a decocked hammer.

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>>725727377
Killing without remorse or even enjoying it makes the part of shooting a person much more easier and it is of course different if you're talking about a 150 meter range or 5 meters. Lets see you go pull that trigger when somebody is begging for their lives with no mercy.

>>725726583
Tyfys yut. You sound like a real blow hard

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>>725727306
>need

Thank god I live in a country where I don't need a gun either, but if I want one I can buy one.

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>>725722231
Agreed, it's probably the sexiest gun in existence

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>>725725495

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>>725727632
Same here just takes a bit longer to get one, you just can't give a gun to any type of a crazy person.

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>>725727407
Åre you new here?

My favorite pistol so far is the Lancaster:

https://youtu.be/WWGII108sOU

Instead of rifling, it has an oval bore. And they look super cool. Few moving parts, even compared to revolvers, so they're probably super reliable.

>>725727511
correct, what I'm saying is that if you think that you can say "I'm going to shoot this guy twice in the heart/lungs and once in the head" and then do it, you're kidding yourself. The fact of the matter is you're going to be discharging as quickly as possibly in their general direction. And in all likelihood 4/5 bullets aren't going to hit a vital area or kill zone. Which is why things like stopping power DO matter. 2 .380's to the torso might or likely won't stop someone, but 2 low grain JHP .45's sure as hell will. Do you get what I'm saying?

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Just gonna leave this here

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>1911
>glock
Holy shit, you fucking literal children. Take your COWADOODY addictions elsewhere.

The greatest pistol ever made is the Colt Single Action Army. Anyone who says otherwise is a full blown homosexual

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Obviously the Schwarzlose blow forward design is the best gun ever made in the history of the multiverse.

>>725723125
Looks like an owl with the feathers off

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You mean Colt Walker?

>>725727600
thanks buddy. I'm actually a pretty chill guy, just get annoyed when people try to tell me shit about things they've never experienced and I have. If I came off crass I apologize.

>>725727938
And it goes great with an old hat, a beat-up poncho, and a roughly-rolled small cigar.

Just make sure to squint into the distance a lot.

>>725727938
This, revolvers are Godtier and look so cool with an extended barrel

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Weighing in on this debate

I'd actually like to own a gun, I think they're utterly fascinating, I just don't trust myself to handle one.

>>725727859
No, because I've seen videos of guys getting plugged multiple times with a wide number of rounds. And I'm sure youve seen a guy shot with a 556 fall, get up, get shot, fall get up. Running the whole time. And a 556 has way more kinetic energy then any pistol round. If you train failure to stop or The box then you can at least have that muscle memory to attempt it.

>>725727306
Same here, my city had 23 murders last year with a population of 700,000. But I still own guns, cause I live in a country where I can, despite my government not wanting me to.

>>725727938
Can't argue with this

>>725727911
leave it in the garbage instead. Beretta m9's/92's were the biggest joke Italy ever played on us as a nation. I've seen more of those jam in the sand than I can count.

>>725727632
you in austria most of the robbers aren´t even armed because they don´t need to. and overall we´re a peaceful country.

AND I THINK THAT´S GOOD

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So many newfags ITT. Anyine who rattles off glocks or 1911s as best ever made has never shot a firearm irl. FACT.

>>725728163
Well like I replied to the one fellow before, here you can get one all you need to do is get a license and have a reason like hunting, shooting at the range etc.

>God Tier
[IMG]http://i65.tinypic.com/20f9w0g.jpg[/IMG]

>>725727632
What country?

>>725728205
>>725728205
It is good, it's not the reality in the US, though. Criminals are likely to be armed here

>>725708540
no

>>725728147
no my friend, a .45 has far more stopping power than the 5.56x45. Low velocity + large diameter+ high projectile weight = stopping power. You're right. I've seen insurgents take half a dozen 5.56 rounds center mass and keep chugging to cover before succumbing, the two men I hit center mass with my 1911 were stopped in their tracks with visible jerking contact zones. The 5.56 has much too high of a velocity and is far too aerodynamic and light to have any stopping power, the same cannot be said for the .45 even in 230g fmj form, not to mention JHP 190-195g

>>725728205
>>725728315
'murica. I thought the picture would have answered that question.

>>725728137
Yea, this pretty much describes me. I think it's called "L'appel du vide", it's scary. I can just see myself one night, a bit too much to drink, saying "maybe I'll get the ol' pistol out, clean it up".

Then, it's all clean, have a few more beer, and maybe load it up. Just to see.

How far would I go? I wouldn't want to know.

>>725728205
So is the U.S. despite it's very diverse population of over 300,000,000. We are a generally peaceful country.

The majority of our gun crimes are black on black, in poverty striken inner cities. Taking away guns won't fix that, jobs will. But we gave all that to Chinese and Indians

>>725721400
Yessir I got two

>>725728540
The call of the void, yup, exactly. L'appelle du vide

>>725728434
Aha my mistake. Thanks for clarification on that. Ausfag and proud gun owner here. Wish we had fun laws like yours!

>>725721400
I love my shadow sp01 <3

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10/10 would execute traitors again

>>725728386
agree. but don´t u think that this is a just a helix of violence?

my theory: in usa policemen are more likely to pull and shoot cause the know that criminals are armed and tend to shoot.
therefor criminals arm themself and tend to shoot cause they know policemen don´t hesitate to shoot either....and so on.

and you really think more weapons will help in this situation?!

>>725728431
unfortunately we were forbidden by NATO to load hollow points, but I can imagine the devastation a mushroomed JHP .45 would cause at the 10-15 meter range. It would truly be a spectacle.

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>>725722231
The Anti-Jew-Inator 3000

>>725728183
Admittedly, I only take mine out to the range, and keep it locked up most of the time.
I have fired glocks, 1911s and most other guns in the thread, but I always find my 92 is your just better to shoot. Matter of preference or familiarity I suppose, but they're my favorite

>>725728824
You know what's funny? On first glance, I thought you were saying

"In the USA, Pokemon are more likely to shoot..."

And I'm all like "what is this guy smoking?". And I realized it was I who was smoking... it was I....

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U r just ALL wrong

HK is the master race

>>725728549
>Taking away guns won't fix that, jobs will
fair enough, but more guns wouldn´t fix that either i think.
As I said I love shooting guns, but I also think that over time the emotional level needed to pull a gun in america has got dangerously low. And this helps no one

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>>725728890
This.

>>725728824
Yeah it is somewhat of a self fulfilling prophecy, but until there is a way to reliably and completely remove guns from criminals, they are the reality. So is everything that comes with it.

>>725708540
Why did the Glock beat the 1911 in a boxing match?
The 1911 couldn't get past 9 rounds.

>>725728928
it is not only you i can tell ya

A 1911 and a Glock will both do the job fine, I would just rather have a big hunk of steel in my hand than polymer... Also I prefer the grip angle and narrower grip.

>>725715082
>compensator affecting accuracy
>implying

>>725729139
Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.

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Out of my way fagots

Make sum space for the champion

>>725729202
ok my english is to weak to tell exactly what that means

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>>725728987
I run that as well