Non- Americans does it bother you that you can't own firearms

Fuck off to /pol/!

>>725498826
fuck off to /k/

>>725499010

Either or really....

Non-Americans are usually nanny state inhabitants. They live in a fantasy land where the police are always around to protect them and governments never act against the best interests of the governed.

>>725498826
>Also, I'm thinking of getting a Smith and Wesson MP sport for my first AR. Anyone have one and can tell me how they like it?

An AR clone is easy and fun to build on your own. Buy a complete upper, build the lower. Cheaper than buying a complete AR.

>>725499380
Any you would recommend?

>>725498826

I'm an American but I live in California, so it's pretty much the same shit as Non-America.

>>725498826
>I live in th UK
>I legally own a shotgun
Really makes you think

>>725498826
Here I'm Canada we can own firearms. We just have to pass the applicable level of the Pal liscense course. The whole point is teaching safety really so I think it's smart.

We have three levels: Unrestricted for hunting type shit, restricted for handguns etc and prohibited for everything else.

>>725499412
Go ask /k/ fag

>>725498826
I have one, it's average...nothing special or horrible about it...if it's your first AR you'll go full-retard and have fun with it, not a bad thing just be careful...

Also, there are better boards for this type of thread...and your assumption that only americans can own firearms is horribly inaccurate...quite a few other countries allow this...look at a the recent rumbling in the czech republic as an example

>>725498826
Buddy has one. Super clean gun. Highly recommend

>>725499270
>Non-Americans live in the normal world instead of the horrifying world of evil that will kill you.

>>725498826
As a britfag, I totally agree with this. Shotguns and rifles are hard to get hold of in England, and anything automatic or a pistol is practically impossible to get. I'd love to be able to move to America just so I can use firearms. But I'm poor, so that ain't happenin'.

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>>725499420
Yea, I know you have a "duty to retreat" even if someone is breaking into your own fucking home. What kind of insanity is that?

>>725499576
Guns yea, but I was more referring to pistols, and other semi-auto rifles. I know bolt actions are fairly common.

>>725498826
>I'm thinking of getting a Smith and Wesson MP sport for my first AR.

They work. Nothing too special about them. Fit and finish is good enough, some wobble and space between the upper and lower. Good value at that price point.

>>725499640
>person born after the berlin wall fell
Yes, wittle babby boy, everyone wants to be your friend and the human race is devoid of those who would do you harm. Fantasy land, as I said.

>>725499420

Drive to the nearest state that sell them, faggot!

>>725499771
>anything automatic or a pistol is practically impossible to get

To be fair you need a special license to own full autos in the US. Semi-autos like that S&W MP are fine though.

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>>725498826
I got the Sport 15 2. Custome painted it. Pic related

>>725499775
There are still plenty of countries that allow pistols for defense. As the other guy stated, the Czech Republic is a good example.

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>>725498826
does it bother you that we are much less likely to need a gun to protect our selves and families because we don't live in a shit hole where any fucking wacko can go buy a gun and shoot up a movie theatre because the gun industry brainwashed your retarded public and has your government by its balls

>>725499941
OP here, fucking love this gun, can hit a steel plate at 385yds all day

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I have one, it's never given me any troubles.

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>>725500107
>believing everything on wikipedia
>we're the brainwashed ones..

>>725500107
>calls others retarded
>post completely devoid of capitalization or punctuation
Into the trash it goes.

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>>725499910

Tfw its illegal to bring guns that aren't registered in CA across state lines into CA.

>>725500107
have a (You)

>>725500256
>>725500107

http://bfy./Acn3

>>725500141
What an odd range

>>725500353
You can still build one without assault specs..

As an Amecan with 0 guns, I've always wondered what makes them interesting to people - why people want to spend so much money on them, it's such an expensive hobby.

My best guess is that I would need to have absolutely no hobbies or interests, and due to sheer boredom I would turn to things like ARs to entertain me. Also 1 in 3 in Alabama are functionally illiterate, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that retards (literally, kek) want their guns.

>>725499775

The worst is that people agree with that. My family (who are all super anti-gun) agreed that they would all rather die in a home invasion than defend their lives and eachother's lives with a firearm because they could potentially kill someone and therefore contributing to gun violence.

>>725500107
Compare the nigger population of those other countries to the nigger population of the USA. There's your mystery solved.

>>725500107
>believing the aurora masscare was real

>>725500107
>UK
>130,000 knife attacks per year

lol

>>725500107
Does it bother you that Muhammad Abu Dabu and his gang of merry men can freely rape your wife on the streets and she doesn't have something to defend herself with?

>>725500501
>As an Amecan with 0 guns
Oxymoron. You may live here, but you're not actually an American.

>>725500505
That's mind boggling to me.

>>725500484
Its the range of a random steel plate at the spot I shoot on public BLM land

Canadafag here.
We usually own guns to hunt. Not for self defense.
Maybe we don't own guns for that reason because we don't need to.

>>725500501
It's no different than any other hobby. Some people want one for self-defense, some people buy one and want more because they're fun. You hear the same thing about people who buy a new phone every year, or people who get multiple tattoos.

>>725500501
>implying people in non-republitard states don't own ARs

>>725500498

What, the featureless types?

Because the new law has a consficatory ban on ANY non-hunting "style" rifles.

>>725500669
Ahh, makes sense.

>>725498826
How much would one of these cost?

>>725500635
Statistically, a minority of Americans own guns even though the total gun count is nearly 1 per person. You must be from Alabama, friend.

>>725500501
Some people play video games for a hobby, some run, some own guns. What's the problem?

>>725498826
Doesn't bother me in the least. If I want to own a gun and go to the range one day, then sure maybe I'll go through the hassle but I don't live in a country where I need to murder people.

>>725498826

nope it doesn't bother me.

I literally never think about it.

I'm glad they are so rare here

>>725500501
I have no guns myself, but I do have an appeal to the idea of defending one's self and their property by any means that they can accomplish. a gun is a very good way to keep people from wanting to rob or kill you. People should prepare for violence to defend themselves from violence.

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>>725498826
Not overly, I wouldn't mind it but it's not something I think about a lot. A relaxation of firearms classifications though, that would excite me, owning a semi pistol or rifle would be nice.

>>725498826
For killing or wounding in self-defense, I can be sent to prison, weapons can only be used for hunting and this requires a lot of money. Of course I do not like it.

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>>725500799
You can get one for about $600

Most non Americans have been insanely brain washed and believe that Americans are all cowboys and that we own guns to compensate for small dicks. The truth of the matter is that their governments just don't trust their citizens and believe they aren't capable of owning weapons.

Mean while they are easily obtainable on the black market.

The truth is people who aren't allowed to own weapons are pleasantly living their own little cuck fantasies.

>>725500804
Then, statistically, the majority of Americans aren't actually Americans. Glad I could sort that out for you. I live in a wealthy community in New York, friendo. Your attempt to paint gun owners as Zeke from the trailer park has failed.

>>725498826
I have one OP. I've had it for three years, but have never fired it. Just haven't had the tine, with my job and all. I also have a Sig 716, which I have shot. That thing is bad ass.

>>725500041
Yea, but the czech republic fucking sucks. Arent they number 1 in white slavery?

>>725500709
Yeah, I understand this but it's still more expensive than most hobbies and significantly more dangerous/potentially illegal.

>>725500765
I never implied that, I just implied that when 1 in 3 are functionally illiterate, that there's a higher chance of having a gun.

>>725500807
Where did I say there was a problem? Just said I want to understand it

>>725500877
Someone robbing you almost positively doesn't know if you have a gun or not. If the people you know may rob you... well, reconsider your life choices

>>725501032
> "wealthy community in NY"
> legitimately thinks you need to have a gun to be American
> topkeke

>>725500923
You're too weak for my potions.

>>725501193
>he's this autistic and desperate for the attention he was incapable of earning irl
Go outside occasionally, kiddo.

>>725498826
I'm looking at buying a 300 winchester magnum soon.

I wanna be able to shoot an apple at 1000 yards.

Eurocucks can suck my throbbing freedom-boner.

>>725500908
What country?

>>725500804
Its actually 8 guns per one person, mate

>>725498826
French here, we can own guns,just not assault rifle. don't need them anyway. i'm totally ok with it

>>725500767
For California? Thats not true. An assault weapon has certain features WITH a quick mag release (pistol grip, adjustable stock, etc..) You can have these features on an AR if you have the type of mag release where you 'disassemble' your gun to release the mag. Look up the patriot mag release or the bullet button reloaded. If you have that type of mag release, you can have all you AR specs. In california at least

>>725498826
It's a decent rifle. Fun to upgrade

>>725501351
1000 yards with a pistol? I admire your confidence. Considering the fact that shooting accurately at 50 yards with a pistol is extremely impressive.

>>725501403
Nevermind, i quoted a fact about the average person who owns guns, owns 8>>725500804

>>725498826
I live in America and I own a couple guns, but I probably would never use one for protection. Although it might be legal to own a gun, or even carry one, it's mostly illegal to actually use one. Even in a self defense situation, the law will do everything they can to try and convict you of murder or manslaughter. In a government-turning-on-citizen scenario, they will come after the registered gun owners first, with overwhelming force and, since most people keep their guns at home, we will just end up being disarmed or killed.

Still, I hang onto my guns for fun, and for the possibility of loss of social cohesion, or even a foreign invasion.

If you want to fight the rogue government, get unregistered guns and hide them in caches. Multiple caches in multiple locations. The home is not a castle, it's a coffin.

>>725498826
it bothers me that you live in a country where you actually need to protect the ones you care about because everyone is having guns.

>>725500868
Way to be dramatic lol

>>725501547
You clearly don't live in Texas, friend.

>>725498826
No, because i'm not 15 years old and have no interest in firing the pew pew and making the target go pop pop. Grow up.

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>>725500581
first off your numbers are way off second of all want to check the murder stats bruv? have fun getting murdered in your retarded shitropolis

>>725501626
Nope. FEMA region V here.

>>725500505
dude, what are the tisk of an home invasion in california ? and how many people died each year because they are too stupid to own a gun ? (serious question) compare the stats and you'll see if they are right or wrong

>>725500869
This.

>>725501369
Russia.

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>>725498826
Instead of rubbing it in peoples faces you should be telling us how to immigrate to USA inorder to have the guns. You can't possibly expect people to just change the law. Fact of the matter is that a single person is unable to change the law, because the people in power don't allow that and a rebellion will always lead to suffering for the people not involved.

But a dual citizenship could be handy.

ITT: Liberty versus pantywaists.

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>>725501193
>someone robbing you almost positively doesn't know if you have a gun or not

It is irrelevant whether the guy knows if I have a gun or not. If I draw my weapon and he continues to try and rob or assault me. He's asking for a bullet in his gut.

He shouldn't be robbing people anyways. I don't find it unethical to draw a gun on someone who is meaning to do you harm or attempt to steal your belongings. Sometimes a police officer will be too late. You can take it into your own hands.

>>725498826
I can handle knives and blunt objects good enough for self or home defense and I'm quite happy, that it's hard here in germany to buy guns. But it's not as hard as everyone thinks. You just need to get a license first. Requirements: not a convicted criminal, no mental illnesses and you have to be in a "verein". Don't know the proper word for that in english. With that you can buy any non-automatic weapon, that is also not considered a weapon not designed for use in a war.

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Most people who get killed by guns in the US are suicide victims. These are included in almost all gun death statistics. Just an important note.

>>725502001
I responded to the statement "guns stop people from wanting to rob you" - this is incorrect. It indeed may stop someone who is in the act of robbing you if you point a gun, but you owning a gun doesn't change someone elses desires who knows 0 about you.

>>725498826
I've seen a lot of these threads recently so I decided to find out what kind of firearms I can legally own here in the EU. Surprise, I can own a semi-automatic ar-15 if I want. Of course I'll need to be registered and pass several checks.

>>725501690
Go play in the flowers and jerk your tiny dick to fur porn fagit

Actually, my gov gave me one for free.

>>725502073
the murder rate with guns is still way higher than non retarded countries with actual gun laws

>>725498826
>Does it bother you that you feel you need this protection in the first place?

Since there are very few people with guns here in the UK its not something i would likely have to worry about. Given how few there are here why would I need one as protection, I would more likely be attacked with a knife. I have SPEAR training due to my line of work (psychiatric hospital.) so feel sufficiently able to repel a knife attack.

That said I wouldnt mind doing shooting for a hobby OP, I do Archery and own several crossbows and compound bows but would like to go to the states for a bit of shooting.

>>725501744

Friend of mine had their home invaded by two (seemingly) black dudes. Entire family was held at gunpoint as they took valuables.

His little sister is now traumatized and needs therapy but his mother refuses to purchase a firearm of any kind. She cited that God has a plan or whatever and it's not her place to take a life.

Bottom line: The average Californian believes self-defense should be illegal and that crime is justified if you are a minority. They would rather have a deranged person shoot up a restaurant in a mass murder-suicide than take one life to protect hundreds.

>>725499493
That shotgun which you have to store ammo seperately from and would take a good 5 minutes to get ready to load and fire if someone broke in

>>725502411
This. I live in California and fucking hate it...

>>725502494
Or you'd go to jail for pointing the gun at someone, even if he's trying to rob and kill you.

>>725498826
Yeah man, my first ar as well. Its awesome

>>725498826
I live in s africa and I'd love to own a handgun, which is possible legally, but supposedly it's a big hassle.
I didn't bother going through with it because I turned out to be a terrible shot anyway, eye sight is fucked.
Just keep a shovel by my bed now.

>>725502387
Yeah, Detroit and Baltimore have record high gun murder rates, and they're filled with ghetto blacks.
Tons of docs and information about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKp8OV6F64

>>725502494
5mins to load a shotgun... Fucking tard. And fuck you. Mine stays loaded and tucked away

>>725502404
you can go shooting in the UK at a range and you can get a shotgun or rifle license with a note from your doctor a place to keep it (gunsafe) and 1 or 2 notes from "upstanding members of the public" which is like teacher/doctor/solicitor etc google it no need to go state side

>>725498826
dude...
build your own AR
dont buy something that youre going to regret/throw a shit ton of money into

>>725502863
rob yes
kill no
its literally happened

>>725502411

Furthermore, the new gun control measures that my state has taken are simply unconstitutional. The 2nd Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms for the purposes of defending ourselves and our families from not only those who wish to do us harm, but also the government in the event that it becomes tyrannical.

California is systematically stripping these rights without the due process of criminal law. This fact alone makes their actions highly illegal. The issue is that the majority of Californians are liberal cucks who have surreal dreams of peace and love. They cannot fathom that their government doesn't have their best interests in mind, and equally cannot imagine their safety being compromised by a criminal.

Unless someone takes action and stops them, California will be a shining example that states can abuse their citizens, and soon the federal government will take notice and really start to pull shady shit. They have to be stopped.

>>725498826
No not really.

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>>725498826
Non-American here, I just jelly
Keep being awesome

>>725503118
sounds completely reasonable.

>>725498826
but I can and I do, I am afraid you cannot imagine the rest of the world very well

Not really. Its not really part of the culture here in the UK. Most people here don't have paranoia about the gubment here. I would own one if it was easier and we had the same market for guns here as in the US. I would really like a semi automatic shotgun, just for fun.

>>725503118
That is true, I was thinking more of semi-automatics and handguns. I've been doing Archery 20 years even won a few competitions here in the UK, would like to see how well I could shoot a large calibre rifle. Would think it would be quite similar in factors, wind speed/direction, humidity, target movement and of course a steady steady hand.

Canadian here.
I own this rifle. Bought it for my wife to pewpew with. It's a good one for sure.

>>725498826
YES IT DOES. I have a perfectly healthy interest in guns and military history etc.. but the laws of the countries I've lived in have all been shit.

Also I'm banned from the US so. Fuck.

>>725503733

But uhh you dont have the archers paradox with a gun, it just goes in the direction its aimed.

Who said we can't?

We just understand "reasonable minimal force"

No need to whip out ye old chain gun to discourage the one black guy in town from not giving the pen back

>>725504167
Long distance shooting you do which is what i ment there.

>>725504040

>b& from the US

What'd you do?

>>725504257
Your nanny state has indoctrinated you well.

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m&p sport is great. just don't over pay. anything over 550 is over paying.
>muh small collection

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Own a few.
>Feelsgoodman.jpg

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guns r bad ok?

>>725502145
Guns DO stop people from wanting to rob you though, so my statement still stands. People do not rob people who have guns pointed at them.

>>725504493
Any history with the A1?

>>725498826
Not at all.

>>725504373
Drugs possession.

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>>725504656
It's actually a 1974 Colt SP-1, but uses the lower and upper receiver from a Colt model 602 / M-16, pre-A1 configuration as it lacks the forward assist.

But the barrel is chrome lined and came from the same lot as a M-16A1. Eventually I want to put a three pronged flash hider on it to give it that early 1965 look.

It depends which case of self-defense you use weapons.

I'm a friend of Bows,Crossbows etc there legal in nearly all countries. for Home defense and i mean the worst that could happen on my streets is that someone draw there illegal firearm and try to rob me.

(Already happened but KungFu wins against robber with gun).

just saying in america are more mass shootings than days.

I mean if there would be no weapons we would try to kill ourselves with our fists.

Annnd if there are Firearms we shoot ourselves.

and with the magical power of hindsight we know more guns more killed people by Gunfire.

as an american, i can tell you that i have never had to defend myself or those i love. and even if i did, a gun wouldve probably ended up getting me killed.

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>>725505396
Sure thing, Jackie Chan, sure thing...

>>725498826
It fucking annoys me, firearms are one of the few things that I'm intrested, and in my country getting permision to own one is fucking miracle.
I'm planning to join local shooting club, but to get license even for sport weapon I need to be in club for few years.

>>725505297
Cool!

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>>725505558
That's likely correct because you are untrained and afraid of an inanimate object.

>>725498826
Look, dipshit, I'm 37 years old and have never once needed a firearm to defend my family. If you want to argue that firearms are fun to handle and use, that is at least true, but do not fall for the whole, "I need a gun to defend myself from imaginary blacks" meme.

It does actually bother me, I legally own a revolver, but;
>Brazil
>really difficult to get licences, expensive too.
>the gun and ammunition are also expensive, can't have too many weapons and can't store that much ammunition either.
>actually using the bloody thing when necessary will likely land me in legal trouble, so it might not even be worth it.

>>725505838

>25
>live in the literal middle of nowhere
>had my house broken into a few times over the years
>sleep with a SOG machete next to my bed and a baseball bat in bed with me
>never been broken into while home
>never felt the need to use/purchase a firearm even with prior events necessitating home defense
>bought a ruger 10/22 on a whim
>shoot it, like it
>still keep it locked away, unloaded

I feel that using a firearm for personal protection is a good idea for EDC when youre awake and alert but keeping a loaded gun around the house for protection is just an accidental discharge waiting to happen. I prefer the louisville.

>>725502387
and the blade and blunt murder rate in countries with no guns is higher. useless information that everyone knows.

most gun deaths in america are suicides.

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>>725505838
I'm assuming then
>you've never lived in the ghetto
>your neighbor's house never got shot up in a drive by
>your house has never been broken into
>you've never been robbed at an ATM
>you've never worked in the ghetto at a cash register after 12 am
All of you sjw cucks always seem to come from nice neighborhoods. Always spouting this, "you don't need a gun to save your life!" bullshit. I worked hard to get out of the ghetto, but I still fully remember it. Its honestly insulting to hear democrats spout that lie, as if they forget where half their constitutes have to live. If you think its just a meme let me drop you and your whole family off in hood at 2 am.

>>725499270
>Non-Americans are usually nanny state inhabitants. They live in a fantasy land where the police are always around to protect them and governments never act against the best interests of the governed.
Yet.. We dont have gang and school shootings! U yelly american't?

>>725498826
No, it doesn't really bother me. We can use hunting rifles, handguns and shotguns but you need a reason to have one, such as owning a farm or joining a gun club. We don't need to protect ourselves from criminals with firearms because there are hardly any guns here at all, also our police force will use appropriate force to deal with the situation.

Must be shit to have to own a gun. I can't imagine having to raise a child in a place where you have to buy a weapon to insure (to an extent) your own safety.

>>725498826
Don't really care. I don't live near niggers and all my neighbors are ex-military anyways so getting a gun isn't hard. I just never needed one and have some mace on me since it's easier to conceal. I do suppose they're fun in that they give power to the powerless but ultimately my living conditions are safe enough that I'll only consider needing one if I venture to the jungle and encounter a tiger.

>>725498826
Wait what? Of course other countries are aloud firearms. NZ here have multiple shotguns, bolt action and semi auto rifles

>>725500107
All govs collapse. Guns are a must