Can someone explain the appeal of hookers to me? Part of the

>>725137932

Maybe other people have different opinions about what they enjoy about sex, you autist.

>>725137932
then dont buy a fucking gooker then?

jesus, why would i care what you think.

>>725137932
Are you so certain the women youve dated and fucked weren't with you for perceived material gain?

>>725137932
hmm, not sure, maybe it's got something to do with the inherent nature of human being to not put in effort if they don't have to- like deep down, there is a conservation of energy thing going on, so lazyness makes sense? I mean we've kind of comodified everything,and I suppose this is just the over version of comodifying people, in an overt easy to understand way, and that is why I think it's an issue- morally, anything that can bring about harm we take a view on, but most of the time that requires introspection- prostitution is an easy one. It's a safe bet most aren't doing it because it's their dream job, and from that and illegality, the world it inhabits is dangerous and illegal. Even if it is something they want to do, you can't side step the fact there is a more profound risk involved with this line of work that say, working in an office. I think to really understand the appeal of it though, you have to have a pretty debased view of the kind of people you want to fuck- I'm going to go with it's usually a male client, and a woman sex worker- in this instance, you have to have a pretty fucking pathetic view of women and people as a whole to participate in it. I guess this might be why 1/3rd of people visiting sex workers regard what they are doing as a form of helping them- when in all actuality, they would be far more productive to put in some legitimate introspection of their own character, and try to cultivate a balanced and nurturing relationship. Bear in mind, you are asking about this on /b/ where it is a hoard of basement dwelling neckbeards who have probably mediocre social skills and an overall shitty attitude towards women, so, maybe you'll get a sincere answer that goes a little further than 'it's all they are good for' or some nasty shit that is a veil for deep seeded personal issues. I'm interested too

i can only imagine that it must be pretty nice when a woman actually wants to be with you, but for me that will always remain in the realm of speculation...

You pay them to leave

>>725138429
Yep

OP is talking about relationships not fucking.

Who gives a flying super fuck if the bitch likes you? As long as I get my nut, I dgaf

Quit being a cuck faggot OP

>>725138410
the question then is, why do you feel like that? And regardless of that reason, is it good enough?

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>>725137932
>She's legitimately attracted to you

Is this a joke ?

>>725137932
Hookers are great, you dont pay them for sex, you pay them to leave afterwards

>>725138562
see, you actually sound retarded. You're also ignoring that it is possible to have sex with people and not be in a relationship- But you seem to be to caught up in being a cunt to think any further than 'as long as I nut' you could just as well be fucking a warm dead person by that measure- would you fuck a warm dead person?

>>725137932
Virgin detected.

>>725138875

This isn't OP, but I agree with him- I think being into the idea of paying them to leave stinks of insecurities. Man the fuck up and don't cheap out on who you could be- fucking pansies.

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>>725137932
A. Supply and Demand. If you have hardly any sex you really really want some.
B. You don't have to satisfy them or be all clingy afterwards.
C. They are really good at sex because they have had it so much.
D. They let you do things other girls won't, and wont judge you (or if she does who gives a fuck shes a whore)
E. I've never had sex with a hooker so this is all speculations.

>>725137932
Definitely a question a women would ask.
TITS OR GTFO!

>>725137932
>will leave after an hour
This.

Because they can't get a real girl to fuck them dumbass

>>725139097
What if you value your time over all the time and effort it takes to maintain a relationship? not to mention the strings of monogamy.

>>725137932
variety. same reason guys like different porn each day. fuck the same girl for a year and it starts..... to fade. 2 years and man... i want to try some other thing

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>>725137932
You pay a whore to leave and cut ties... wtf is there not to get.

There are things you'd do with a hooker that you probably wouldn't even dare ask a loved one to do without risking them leaving you. And other people are so ugly that fucking them is like an obscene fetish in itself. And so if someone wants to be a lightning rod for that clientele and make money doing it then more power to them.

Inb4 pimps are bad. Yeah no shit.

>>725140090
It's not about fucking the same girl. It's about meeting a girl, going on a date and fucking.

Far more fulfilling imho.

>not caring enough to improve game
>discretion
>not having to think about emotions and relationship shite
>insecurity
>etc
any and all

But seriously, WHY do you people care about what other people do if it doesn't affect you.

>>725137932
I've been seeing a girl now for almost a year and have been fucking anice "escort" on the side for almost as long. I have an incost fetish that my gf you not only break up with me for but tell everyone and then some. Meanwhile I can pay $75-100 to go to this gorgeous girls appartment and have her call me big brother for an hour or so and be done with it. That my reason at least.

>>725137932
You don't pay a hooker for sex... You pay her to fuck Off afterwards.

>>725137932
Convenience. Ease. Fantasy. Fetish. Shyness. Loneliness. What ever reason any person wants, not everyone has the same desires or situation as yourself. Comprehend?

>>725138837
You are talking like "relationship" is synonymous with "committed relationship".. Admittedly a lot of people use the two interchangeably

If you know somebody in any way shape or form you have some form of "relationship". The point is if you're paying somebody its drama proof. You don't know them, you never have and you never will. It's not "hurr durr autists don't know about fuckbuddies" its the fact that fuckbuddies are human beings too and when human beings are doing something without being paid there's liable to be complications.

>>725137932
>implying everyone is a low self esteem faggot who has to "feel wanted" during every sex act
>implying hookers never find you attractive
>implying non-hookers always engage in sex for love/lust, only
>implying hookers can't like you
>implying them leaving afterwards isn't a benefit
>implying more sex experience somehow makes you worse at sex

maybe the mexinigger hookers you've seen are all like that, but I've been seeing the same hooker for 2 years now and it's pretty fucking awesome. She's great at sex, a good friend off-the-clock, and she'll even teach me new moves if I ask her to give me pointers. She's like a sex coach, a friend, and a fuck toy all wrapped up into one.

It's like paying for a massage.
Yea i could probably get someone else to do it for free if i tried to but then again i could just give someone a few bucks and they'll do it no questions.

Not to mention, it's nice to be able to CHOOSE the exact girl you want.

>>725137932
Virgin detected

>>725141932
I'm jealous.

>>725138409
Tl;dr

>>725137932
is masturbation great?
its basically an upgrade on masturbation

>>725137932
You get to pick your partner, not the other way around, you support a woman's right to use her body any way she sees fit, you have always wanted to ejaculate in a woman's face, but are too shy/worried about a negative reaction that you would never ask a girl you were dating, every partner you have had thus far refuses to try anal sex and you really want to find out what it feels like...do I need to go on?

Since nobody is forcing you to freuent prostitutes, why do you even care?

>>725137932
If you masturbate ever, you know part of the reason orgasms are so great is that they feel fucking awesome. It's better to dump your load in some girl's mouth or pussy than to use your hand, and it's better still to cum in a pussy that is genuinely wanting your cum. So, whores are better than jerking it but not as good as sex with actual desire on her part.

>>725137932
>>725142781
also 0 commitment, you get the sex, no dinners forced conversation, no fights, no obligations, just sex..

take a girl out with expectation of sex , dinner drinks movie, no guarantee ....might as well date the date nigh money and spend it on the 100% gaurantee

>>725137932
“When I came it was in the face of everything decent, white sperm dripping down over the heads and souls of my dead parents. If I had been born a woman I would certainly have been a prostitute. Since I had been born a man, I craved women constantly, the lower the better. And yet women—good women—frightened me because they eventually wanted your soul, and what was left of mine, I wanted to keep. Basically I craved prostitutes, base women, because they were deadly and hard and made no personal demands. Nothing was lost when they left. Yet at the same time I yearned for a gentle, good woman, despite the overwhelming price. Either way I was lost. A strong man would give up both. I wasn’t strong. So I continued to struggle with women, with the idea of women.”


― Charles Bukowski, Women

>>725142781
Sometimes I masturbate when I masturbate, trying to give myself a free "upgrade." Then I realized I was already masturbating and that this wasn't possible. So I stuck a finger up my ass.

>>725143078
"Shit in my mouth, daddy!"
--Anais Nin, "The Diary of Anais Nin"

>>725143082
why dirty your own finger?...prostitute

>>725143261
Oh yeah! Thanks, 4Chan...people alwayssay such bad things about you. But you just made my life better. Way better!

>>725137932
>Not only that, but she actually likes you, so she'll stick around afterwards, and will likely come back again.

You don't pay em to fuck. You pay them to leave. Sometimes you just wanna busta nut without the work

use them for the time you want to let out your aggression when you are stressed for whatever reason.

Sorry OP here, i just zhink it is disgusting to fuck a hooker who will never love you from her heart. Obviosly she just doing her job as smooth she can and no actual love will happen. Meanwhile with a girl in a relationship you study her you might laugh and then love together so sex must be much more fullfilling to cum inside a loved one. Its just much more satisfying than to pay a hooker you dont know to make her empty your balls on her? Its sad there is no passion involved i cant feel right about it.

>>725137932
Paid sex free std

There are very few types of people who use hookers.
a) Autistic white knights. Think they can make the hooker fall in love with them (no one else will) because they will *save* them from a life they assume she doesn't want. The smart ones will be resigned to the fact that she is indeed a hooker, and just enjoy the momentary scrap of the only thing in their lives they can call intimacy without outwardly trying to wife them. Convince themselves they are "just bored/lonely/horny" and no heartstrings are attached.
b) Sleazy abusers. Many get a nasty hooker because they can denigrate abase and belittle them, and generally be awful/aggressive. They may also get a classy hooker to enjoy exerting power over beautiful women (something they usually cannot do). Many men are selfish/sadistic/sociopathic in relationships, but this kind wants to throw them away after. The serial killers fall into this category.
c) The cheat. Not mutually exclusive to other categories. Guy just can't handle fapping, must have something his woman doesn't provide or some strange to counterfeit her power over him. Gets off on the thrill of sneaking and probably lawbreaking. Includes repressed homosexuals living a double life.

There are a lot of other less-common motives like high-end escorts, domination, etc. but this sums up at least 95% of the trade.

>>725144658
Then don't do it. Not everyone needs an emotional connection to enjoy the physical act of love.

They are good target practice for newbies to sex, like me, that couldn't get any in highschool or college. And people that don't want to embarrass himself by underperforming.

Also, pretty much all girls today are whores that have enormous amounts of sex too, only difference is you can choose to tell them to fuck off and never return if you didn't like her and the sex.

As a great pervert said; "You pay them to leave, no to stay with you".

>>725144966
Are you a hooker, anon? Otherwise how would you know? This is like me saying, "Westetn Africa is divided into thirteen different tribes, and each one of them smells worse than the last. Take it from me, a guy who's never been further east than Pennsylvania."

>>725145242
Did you lose your virginity to a hooker
. If so, do you regret it? Why or why not?

>>725145242
*great pervert = Charlie Sheen

>>725137932
They're a warm hole to cum inside.
They will act like they like it

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>>725137932
This thread is most reatarded
>> you mustnt threat women like Charles Bukowsky even if it seem the right way, if this Idiot craves for some self affirmation, ok but by far not evryone is dependable on that kind of shit, here on 4chan ppl have hands and porn
noone gives a fuck (close this thread)

>>725137932
Son, when you get gnarled and weather like myself you don't really care for relationships any more. Unfortunately the ol pecker keeps truckin. Screwing some asian whore does the trick and i'm good for another thousand miles.

>>725141848 correct, I was talking as if relationship was synonymous with committed relationship, but if you follow that to completion, that's not the point even remotely- the point of that as an example is you don't have to end up in a relationship to fuck someone, but by that same token that doesn't mean the flip side to that is paying someone. That doesn't negate any moral issue with it, which i think is the decider wherein someone can say it is permissible to do or not not-

hookers find money attractive.

if you have it, she has attraction towards you.

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Ask a hooker anything

>>725146181

hey bby. what's your yahoo messenger id

>>725137932
You don't pay a hooker for sex, you pay her to leave afterwards.

>>725137932

I'd wager you're a female autist. You should post your tits with a time stampor get the fuck out.

Also you're stupid and have no value other than a cumdumpster.

>>725142465
>Not to mention, it's nice to be able to CHOOSE the exact girl you want.

Yeah, but with a massage you're probably not putting the masseuse in a dangerous situation, won't transmit an receive or transmit an STI, and the majority of masseuses probably aren't doing it out of necessity- As for the element of choice, that's the attitude that's really ugly- it is the transfer or a person into an object, and is symptomatic of a greater problem with empathy- As in, how would you feel if a woman you are close to and cared about, for example, your Mother,became a prostitute? how would you feel about the men that fucked her for money? because this is the exact same situation but from the opposite perspective- therein lies the empathy. Really think about some man fucking your own mother, on his terms, (after all he's paying and that seems to be a lot of what this is about) and then leaving a sweaty ball of cash for her to take-

>>725140486
75-100 dollars for an hour isn't an escort, that's a disgusting hooker

>>725142781
This is accurate.

>>725138031
/thread

>>725141932
hmm, have you tried others? if you hang out with her, and she is a good friend, and you fuck her, and you pay her money for that, it seems like there is some elements of a relationship in it, and if there isn't, It sounds like a pretty unique circumstance. DO you friends know she is the hooker you go to? do hers?

>>725145418
Yes actually.

Already cuddled, holded hands, kissed and shared intimacy with girls in highschool. But maybe because of autism I never got past third base.

After all the time and effort I put up in the end I got played hard, could never made any girl strip or get anything overtly sexual with anyone. So I don't regret it and actually love it.

Though, be warned fellow Anons, it's pricey and money consuming to get hookers. There are good "Cheap" ones ranging from $50 to $200 or even more. Also, if you guys have no selfcontrol you can legitly get addicted like some friend of mine.

>>725145761
But Anon, they like the sex and love the money. They might not like you but that's beyond the point.

>>725143013
taking a girl out and expecting sex? fuck dude- like you can just go through the motions until sex falls out..... it's probably that attitude that guarantees it wont.

>>725146181
Female, girl or woman? How much per hour? Also, what city?

>>725143078
Bukowski was an Olympic level fuckup, remember :)

>>725146403
But my mom and dad did exactly this.

She didn't got to do shit all day long and got paid nearly all of my dad salary just because my dad told me now that I'm older that there is no better milker(?) than her.

I mean, holy fucking shit assraping me sideways. My dad turned out to be a beta stupid provider that married a personal hooker of sorts.

>>725146181
Would morbidly notoriously rape. Would make you blind afterwards to keep you as my sexslave with no chance of escape. Would drive you in the woods to my hideout and use you all day all night until i get better pussy

>>725146413
It is if you live in a third world shithole where wages are $1.95/h.

>>725146403
her body her choice

>>725145336
holy shit- this guy.

'like me, that couldn't get any in highschool or college'

'pretty much all girls today are whores'

do you think there might be a slight correlation here?

>>725145816
I give a fuck

>>725147152
>Simple observation
>Not a thing
Have you ever paid attention to beggars on the street?

Off course there will always be assumptions based on bad observation or overthinking, but that's still science for you bitch.

>>725146951
>She didn't got to do shit all day long and got paid nearly all of my dad salary just because my dad told me now that I'm older that there is no better milker(?) than her.

Sorry, can't even remotely understand what you just wrote- i think there s sarcasm in there?

>>725147463
You know damn well what he means kek. The sex industry is always going to be there. Better to have it happen safe and regulated instead of illegal underground bullshit going on. Go be a moralfag somewhere else. Prostitution is a necessary evil.

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>>725147463
Yeah, sorry about that. English is not my best language.

Point was:
>My mom is my dad's whore
>Always got paid for milking him dry
>Didn't got to do shit at home. Maybe exercise but she was never a cardio bunny.
>Dad confess all this shit in a drunk fit
>Fuck my life and my shit genes

>>725147437

Actually, your point is completely anecdotal. That's the opposite of science.
you just argued against your own point -

are typing this all by yourself or are you dictating to your helper? because you are retarded.

>>725137932
>part of the reason sex is so great is [...]
Sex is great for different reasons for different people. What you just posted is why sex is great for YOU. Not for everyone.

>>725147643
>The sex industry is always going to be there.
no, I seriously don't know what he was saying. I'm not sure if he is saying his mother actually was a whore and that's how his parents met, or if he thinks his mother is some kind of hooker because his dad says she is good at sex and she stays home and takes his money. I can't tell if this is literal or figurative. Also, it doesn't actually address the question in what he was responding to-

>>725147695

why do you need to call your mom a whore?

nobody thinks you're edgy or cool.

>>725147745
>Repeated observations on different human subjects on different settings
>Doesn't count as simple observation

>>725147643
but okay, I'll take you on too- I'm not being a moralfag in the slightest, I'm picking apart flimsy-assed arguments. necessary evil? I won't argue it will probably always exist, but I will argue that the reasons it will are supply and demand, except people really don't understand what it is they are demanding. The supply side does though- and it can be risky as fuck. It's the saying its okay be default that i think is bullshit- if you make a good point, I'm fucking on board- but it's yet to happen

>>725137932
sly??
Whats the difference betwen a woman and a hooker?

A woman u'll spend a lot of money taking her somewhere out, and u don't even know if you will fuck her. And how the fuck you know she loves you? just because she told this to you??
Man a woman smile to a crocodile, why do u think you are special? She probably told the same think to 10 other guys and you don't even know.

A hooker are at last honest to you, she wants you money and you will get what you want. No BULLSHIT, just money and sex.

>>725137932

Women always turn into manipulative whores and will dump you when something better comes along.

Your view of sex is tainted by romantic bullshit that most men realize doesn't exist before they finish school.

You are either a child or an idiot.

>>725147890
She always did shit nothing all my life. My dad busted his ass off for the whole family. He even helped raise my cousins because why the fuck not, he earned a lot.

I have some serious problems with her and psychological problem that rooted from her behaviours and the way she always treated all the males in her life, including me.

My sex life got fucked because I thought my dad was the best guy in the world and you could be a nice guy with a great salary that got a pretty decent girl.

Don't have proof but I suspect my mom whored herself when young and cheated on my beta dad. I can't and won't confront them about it. But acceptance is the first step into solving a problem.

And, my personal problem is that I had shit parents that led to me pay for hookers because I was a inadequate stupid beta.

>>725147695
I feel ya, bro.

>>725148073
It's less risky if it's legal: less std's, more protection, less murdered hookers because they don't have to walk the streets, less rape because men can get release etc etc. It has it's benefits for a healthy society

>>725148370
>And, my personal problem is that I had shit parents that led to me pay for hookers because I was a inadequate stupid beta.

no. you are shit because you are a shitty person.

man up and quit blaming other people for your inadequacy.

>>725148722
>Blaming the victim
Only cool when you do it to boys

beta bob grew up with the Disney ideals, can't blame him for getting hit by reality

>>725137932
>shag

Go brush your fuckin teeth

>>725148722
>you are a shitty person
Fair, but then you imply my raising doesn't get anything to do with it then?

>>725148165
*always.

....yeah, O.P is the idiot...

>>725148021
yeah, it does. That called an opinion. You said pretty much all women are whores these days.

now what seems more likely- either you somehow observed this in most women you have met or seen straight up swap sex for money, or, you just shot your mouth off?

the point I'm getting at is, if the attitude you actually have and believe is that most women swap sex for money, or will swap sex for money, your view of at least half of the population is pretty fucking flawed, so if you have any problems with them- that shit might just have a lot to do with you being maladjusted.

I mean, the only other logic in this I can dig out is
if the only women you do come in contact with are prostitutes, then yeah, you could say out of the women I interact with, most are whores. but I don't think that's the case. I'm not being a dick- I just think these is scope to change a perspective for the better here-

>>725148937
nope. maybe when you were a kid. sure.

but you are an adult now ( or not mentally ).

You as an adult gets to decide how you want to live your life. If you make a decision to bang a hooker that is on you and not on your upbringing.
You always have an option not to do it.

>>725149098
Let me rephrase then since there is some obvious language discrepancy here.

*"All women nowadays are sluts or covert sluts".

Why you so salty about it tho?

>>725149098
Women will only date up, and with the advantage of 21th century tech they have 100 willing dicks on demand. Most women are selfish entitled cunts who will dump you for something better if they feel it's worth the effort. Most who get a child end up becoming a single mother. Said kids more often end up depressed, in jail or on drugs. Not all woman are whores but most of them care more about themselves than their own kids.

>>725137932
Because that kind of sex leads to relationships, marriage, children, and other horrible things. It's a lot less painful to just use some whore to get off on.

>>725148370
>Don't have proof but I suspect my mom whored herself when young and cheated on my beta dad. I can't and won't confront them about it. But acceptance is the first step into solving a problem.
>And, my personal problem is that I had shit parents that led to me pay for hookers because I was a inadequate stupid beta.


Nah man- Step up. This fucking victimhood bullshit has got to go. I can't see a correlation between your sexlife being fucked because your dad was a nice guy and your mother is horrible- I mean parents are role models sure, but with your attitude if they are responsable for your failures, they are also responsible for any success you have- and you own neither. That's simply not true. While they can influence things, full blame is weak as fuck, and fuck you for lying to everyone.

>>725148584
oh legality and regulations is a no brainer- that's the only way it should go down. But it doesn't side step the issue of legal or not, is there a good argument for it? I can think of only one-

>>725137932
I'm a total monger when it comes to prostitution of all sorts. What I am into now I the "arrangement" websites. I put up a suggestive ad looking for a young girl next door type. I get lots of answers from girls looking for money.

We meet over dinner at a nice place, and I enjoy a nice convo with a girl young enough to be my daughter.

and I don't mention sex at all.

The nervously girl tries to nudge the convo in that direction and I don't respond, forcing her to be more and more blunt about it.

The magical moment for me I when this young, innocent looking girl has to nervously admit she wants to have sex for money.

love the prostitution thing, so many fun moments

>>725149424
Could you please stop with the whole "it's only attitude maaan". People are a combination of nature and nurture. Some people get fucked up in childhood and never fully recover. Not everyone was as sheltered as you. That, or you're just some new age faggot in denial.

>>725149161
That is really spot on.

I personally decided to make some decent bank, have a nice career, bust my brain off nearly burning it to make progress in life to get a good, honest, loyal and maybe cute girl that I would get to share my life away.

Not sure what to really think. I see my expectatives on relationships was really naive and childish. There is also the problem that it took me years to figure it all out.

But at the end it all boils down that 'Only all my decissions are the wrong'. Nobody throws shit at disrecpectful, unfaithful and slutty girls today, because you are not man enough to deserve a good woman or even a fairly decent?

>>725149274
i'm sorry to hear about your problem with women

>>725149573
another story from my long time hobby:

> Pick up young street walker. bitchy and bossy but really cute.
> I pay her extra to go back to her trailer park and fuck her.
> Then I paid extra to have her all night. Great times!
> Morning, we hear someone else coming into the trailer! Its her mom!!
> She tells mom that I am her new boyfriend.
> Mother glares at us cause I am older than mom.
> Youngster is embarassed. She escapes by saying, "Oh, Im late", she grabs a backpack and leaves me there with mom.

> Mom is a "butterface" and is very angry...
> ... but seriously beta, she let her daughter just leave like that.
> And shes not screaming at me, but is sort of whining that I ought to go after girls my own age.

> Something about her helplessness makes me totally boner.
> I totally ignore her anger and say something about seeing where her daughter gets her good looks.
> I tell her to take off her coat so I can see her body.
> Her eyes get big, she looks confused by my sudden come on.
> But she does what I tell her. I smile at her obedience.
> She does EVERYTHING I tell her. She even sucks her daughter's pussy juice off my dick.
> I bang her all morning and then leave,
> never mention that I actually paid her daughter

> That evening, thinking about it all gets me turned on again and I drive to their trailer to see what I can get.

> Young bitch sees me thru the window and storms out of the trailer and starts yelling at me for doing her mom. (Mom told her!!!)
> She is so upset shes unaware that her neighbors are watching and clearly can hear her.
> She demands I pay her for doing her mom.
> I refuse.
> she starts throwing gravel at my car.
> She yells "My moms not a prostitute - so you should have to pay extra for her!!" (kinda crazy, but sort of true)
> As I drive away, she screams "btw, youre bad in bed!"
> I see her neighbors faces as they realize whats going on.
> I laugh hard at the little slut.

There are many reasons why a man would chose a prostitute over a relationship. Also let's be real women in relationships are really just social legitimized prostitutes anyway. How long do you think a woman would let you fuck her if you did not take her out to dinner, by her shit, provide her with a nice lifestyle? Not fucking very long and that is a fact! Now a hooker for sure does not give you any emotional fulfillment but what they do provide is a complete lack of all the bullshit and mind games that come with a wife or girlfriend. You get to be the chooser for a change. you get exactly what you want without having to jump through hoops or making you feel like they are doing you a favor. You tell them what you want, pay them and you get it. You don't have to deal with any BS cuddling, listening to her whine about stupid shit or complaining about sharing your feelings. Economically in the long run way cheaper than a wife or girlfriend. Now i am not saying skip the whole relationship thing if that is what you want. But if you have the money and you just want to get laid then not a fucking thing wrong with it, of course it is illegal in most U.S. states so you do have that to contend with.

>>725137932
In your teens, 20's, & 30s OP is correct. Just don't be foolish enough to marry her. I'm sure your gf is perfect and would never stop having sex with you. Pro Tip: You're wrong.
hookers when you're in your late 40's and up make perfect sense. They are far cheaper than a wife and you'll actually get to have sex.

>>725149689
I love women lol. I just don't have unrealistic expectations about humans. I still treat them normally, I still make love with them. But I'm not giving out my commitment anymore

btw never fucked a hooker fyi, that's another anon

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>>725149573
Are you serious nigga? How young is the younger you ever had?

Why didn't I thought of this?

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>>725149783
>"My moms not a prostitute - so you should have to pay extra for her!!"
Good thing this wasn't a you laugh you lose.

>>725149229
I'm not too salty, I just think it's exactly that kind of view point that's in the way of generally a lot of good shit for people- the counter point for yours would be some chick saying 'every dude out there is willing to fuck you for money' which doesn't represent me at all. or O.P because he asked, or probably the majority of people- I don't know for sure, but I would say most people don't pay for sex as a throw away thing. When you think it's cool to say All women are whores all women are sluts whatever, sure you can totally say that, but I need to know what you mean when you say it- it implies you've got some secret knowledge- like what motivates them or something. Also, I need to know the scale you're working on- I know what a whore is. money for sex. got it- now what the fuck is a slut? how do you measure that. I don't think it is a girl fucking who she wants to- we are cool with that, I do that, don't think it makes me a slut though- I just do what I want with girls on the same page and shit is fine. I don't think they are sluts- they don't cruise for dick all the time, they have jobs and shit going on- so I guess, if I seem salty about it is because it's this huge empty pointless dick flexing of guys going ''it's like this'' and I just don't think it is.

>>725137932
>Part of the reason sex is so great is because the woman actually WANTS to fuck you.
You said it yourself. It's only PART of the reason.
You might say "salt is part of the reason food is so great", but a starving man will eat boiled meat, salt or no salt.

>>725150193
dash anon is wise anon

>>725150193
we get it you're a woman

>>725150193
a girl who fucks whomever she wants to IS a slut

>>725150193
>I don't think it is a girl fucking who she wants to
>don't think it makes me a slut though
Not anymore by today standards.

But a couple years back sleeping around was being a slut. Fucking someone in a relationship makes you a bigger slut and fucking strangers every couple days deffinetely makes you a slut.

Off course, I can go fuck myself because I'm being a biggot and shame women for being women.

>>725149274
so, the issue here is they fucking owe you somehow? don't worry about being what they would trade up to, just you know, surrender. Of course they would move on from someone who has that approach to anything. Here's a tip. If you are looking at women who are only interested in having 100 digital dicks around them to choose from, either, be the top dick in that game if you are going to play it, or consider for a second that dating isn't like ordering a fucking pizza- and I guess we are talking about your relationship inadequacies now rather than prostitution. That other stuff you said is also bullshit- like most women being selfish entitled cunts. You don't know most women. Realize this. And f you treat them as to how your opinion presents itself, yeah, you are a dude that is in their life temporarily. They will want to get away from opinions that make them feel less than they are- anyone would. That's not a woman thing. Raise your standards. >>725149590

>>725150193
Most young chicks get nailed on tinder these days, top kek. "durr we're not all sluts". Well apparently now you are.

>>725150804
what's your point

>>725137932
Paid a stripper for sex a few times. She told me an embarrassing story about when her dad came to the strip club. He wanted to talk to her privately right then and there and the only way they could get close enough to talk with no one hearing was for him to pay her for a lap dance.

>>725150804
>they fucking owe you somehow?
How come women aren't the ones paying for dinner?

You are obviously stupid and retarded. So I'll answer that, it's because women can spread their legs and someone will fuck them. Men have to struggle to get fucking anything and on top of everything are expected to pay for everything even though they will not get anything out of it?

>>725150804
How old are you and how many different dicks have you had in your orifices? I'm not the one to slutshame but I want to know if you practice what you preach.

>>725149590
Yeah man, they are a product of nature and nurture- so is this guy naturally going to hookers, or is that a choice made on a system of values he learned? is he actually incabable because of this of making choices? there's nothing new age in it- If it isn't attitude directing these decisions, then what the fuck is it? I get it man, maybe your parents fucked you up and this argument is a good way for you to project that, but if that's the case you're jumped to the defense in the wrong fight-

>>725151171
Whoever that is is preaching that being a slut is good and had at some point in its life fucked over 3 people in less than a week.

>>725137932
cool thing bout hookers:
after come, they get out
no fuss no muss

>>725151234
You live under the premise that we can make society purely trough ideology and willpower. I think humans have less agency than that, purely based on the fact that if I look around I don't see a perfect world.

>>725151262
Hell I love sluts. The ones to slutshame the most are other women kek.

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>implying any women would WANT to fuck with all the lonely virgins on /b/

>>725151474
Your shaming has no power here.

>>725151234
I'm the guy you are talking about. Just to be completely clear;

>Got to date and go out since young
>Got a good life
>Got a great career that I like, I don't love it but I like it
>Never got anything worth out of any relationship
>Got cheated upon a lot
>Got lied blatantly, had to fucking hire investigators to be sure I was being cheated and lied
>Each and everytime was true
>I'm still the one in the wrong because I'm not modern

>>725151570
Yeah lol it's all your fault anon. In fact it's everyone's fault. Just not women's fault.

>>725151434
>t. never been the third guy to fuck a girl (in a single night), have her get all clingy with you because you were the best one of the night, and then have her try to kill herself the next day because her ex-boyfriend is a dick about her slutiness
Lost my faith in women

>>725150193
>>725150391
>>725150413
>>725150855

Nah, I'm a guy- read again-

>>725137932
Cutfag detected

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>>725151666
Might as well become Stanist.

>>725151687
You're not a real man tho, you're a pussywhipped beta

>>725151687

you have the reasoning of a girl though.

>>725150907
that whole thing is the point.

>>725137932
because when i'm done you can tell them to gtf out and they actually leave without getting pissed.

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>>725137932
A prostitute is someone who loves you
No matter who you are, or what you look like.
Yes, it's true, children.
That's not why you pay a prostitute, No, you don't pay her to stay, you pay her to leave afterwards.
That's why I praise the lord for prostitutes!

>>725151107

buy a woman dinner = she owes you sex.

dude-

>>725151773
All I read was "durr you're dating the wrong girls" when most grills at college fuck multiple men within their first year. Fucking retard.

>>725147463
To be fair, he was raised by a whore so reading and writing most likely his specialty. (His specialty is likely serving fast food or selling drugs)

>>725151687
You post like a retard... which makes it seems like you're a woman.

I mean, fuck, I struggle with english but you have some serious expressions problems.

>>725151869
>implying anyone believes that

>>725151171

Ah, I'm 30, I've had no dicks in any orifices. I'm a straight dude-

>>725152061
how many women have you had, are you in a relationship now/are you married with or without kids

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>>725151733
>Dubs after trips
>Still misstype Satanist
What a shame on myself.

Check them either way bitches!

>>725137932
used to hook.

usually two reasons:

1) they like the huge power differential.

2) its a status symbol. rich people like Jay Z make it rain in the strip clubs, so they try to emulate that image by spending a ton of money. you see a lot of silicon valley types doing that, they'll spend like 5000 of cocaine, hire like three callgirls, only fuck one of them, offer cocaine to the rest, desperately try to appear young and hip to their coworkers, use outdated slang like "want to smoke some HORSE with me?"

>>725151874
But anon, you just need to get a churchy prude that wont put out after marriage!
Women are fucked, theres no such thing as a girl that can abstain and not get fucked up emotionally, and there is no such thing as a whore that isnt fucked up emotionally.

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>>725151920
I wouldn't say it's the case after a dinner, but bitches pretending that gifts and tons of effort are free because "that's just what good friends do hihi" should jump off a cliff.

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>>725137932
>She's legitimately attracted to you

Ok fist, no women is legitimately attracted to YOU, she's
A: attracted to the image she has of you, which when questioned and she sees you as an actual human being and not an idealised being, she'll dump you or seek greener pastures.

B: the best she can get at that specific moment in time, once something better comes along she'll forget you just like that and move on.

Then there's C, when she realises she cant get anything better because her looks don't allow it, she'll be with you, but you have to pay for sex all the way in the form of gifts, vacations, and stupid pointless chores.

This may sound bleak to the younger guys out there, but it's what happens in real life, you can deal with it and make the best of the situation or deny it and be a cucked little white knight.

>>725147695
Much better written. +1 internet to you.

>>725152148
oh yeah and the third reason

"i have a cake fart fetish/ diaper fetish/ i want you to beat the shit out of me/ and my girlfriend is not into that at all"

>>725151869
>Implying
I never wrote that paying for dinner owes you anything.

But you have a greater struggle that women can't nor want to see you going thru.

>>725152170
This. Men are supposed to provide shelter and food. Women are supposed to provide offspring and childcare. Someone isnt holding up their side of the deal

>>725151360
dude, I'm probably a gnarly fascist. I think we can make society good by some hard and fucking fast brutal maneuvers- I've come to this conclusion not out of any ideology of goodness, but because we are so fucking base it's probably the best chance we've got- in the same breath as that, I think we can set way higher standards and demand way more from most people. I don't think we are completely shackled to the situation as it stands.

>>725137932
AYE, IT BE A WIZARD LADS!

>>725152170
Not their fault, it's beta men who are at fault. Who gives gifts to a grill in 2017 that's not your ltr girlfriend? hahahahaha

Also the problem isn't women exploiting men, it's men willingly showering grills with all kinds of perks to begin with. Don't give a grill any perks, and you're sure she's with you for you, and not what you provide.

>>725152061
Have you ever shit a log?

There is this faggot that only eats Thai food because he says it feel the same.

>>725152175
Can confirm, or in other words
>She's never yours to keep, only yours to have right now

You can only keep her for so long. And once things start going downhill there is never a way back. Sad but it's the natural way of relationships dying.

>>725152118
Single currently, have had 3 meaningful relationships since being legit adult- longest being 4 years, exact figures on sexual partners unknown, I'd say it falls between 30 and 40.

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>>725152290
>Supposed
Because fuck Mother Nature's intends

>>725152598
Lmao. What made you a woman's rights activist

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>>725152425
So explain to me - how, ah fuck it. Nothing's going to come of this anyways.

>>725152425
That's what men used to teach young men.

Do you know how hard to break that mental frame is when you don't have masculine roles to teach you the ways?

>>725152357
also, I think we can be generally smarter across the board. I think we can force this. Teach people more stuff in school. it's completely doable. Add a half hour on to each day to discuss what drives political issues or something. engage people. give them the power to create an opinion.

>>725137932
It's because sex is both a biological urge and fun to partake in.

Prostitutes are a way to ease yourself especially if you don't have sex often. It is better to do it where it's legal though.

I make a trip once a year to the FKK Club Paradise Stuttgart and I don't regret it.

>>725152741
glad you took the time to type that out, now I'm really thinking about the flaws in my reasoning

This is literally the first time I've ever seen someone suggest that sex is fun because the other person wants to be involved. If that was the case, fapping wouldn't be fun.

>>725152820
I know, and I'm glad I'm past that. Now I just have a couple fwb's while making fun of all the drama my friends's gf's put them trough. A bleak solution but it's better than staying chaste.

>>725137932 u dont pay for them to fuck you bro, they want to fuck you, you pay for them to leave.

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>>725137932
>Can someone explain the appeal of hookers to me?
every once and a while, you find a hooker that's so desperate, she's willing to let you do things to her daughter for an extra bit of cash, while she just sits in the corner, crying, and pretending like it isn't happening.

>>725152741
You can never win an argument on /b/ or /pol/. It's not useless though because others are reading.

Hookers want to fuck you, when you have money. Smh.

>>725152425

oh wow. you're so manly.

>>725144658
how much of a beta faggot can you be?
if you care for emotions, connections and all that girly shit during sex you are either a teen or a fag. You fuck a hooker for different reasons, some may gind it hard to get a partner, some may want to experience somethibg different with the minimal effort of flirting and shit and some others for the sake of fucking without commitment. Grow the fuck up.

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>>725153036
And sometimes is fun to watch.

>>725152546

Exactly, it's always a lease, 21st century in all it's glory.

In the old days once the passion subsided relationships evolved into a caring partnership or a respectful partnership, now once the passion is dead the relationship is dead, and the woman always calls the shots on that.

>>725152709
Didn't know I was a womens rights activist- I just don't have any problem with them at all- they are typically a bit nicer that guys in my experiences- not so caught up on the slightly macho under the surface bullshit a lot of guys have going on- They're just people- some are cool, some are douches, whatever. I guess I'm arguing this stuff basically because I don't believe it and I am pretty happy to back up my points. I'll change my mind if a good one appears- I've had my ear open for one for sometime, but it just doesn't seem to be there. My reverse ask is, why are so many people fighting it? I'm not sure I've said anything that steps even remotely outside of common sense. My only agenda is 'not bullshit'

>>725153203
Honestly I wish I could just settle down with a nice qt, but we're just adapting I guess. sad times

>>725153316
You're ranting and virtue signalling and none of your points have any relevancy nor direction

>>725153316
> why are so many people fighting it?

guys are fighting against women's rights?

>>725153418
I'll help you then- what points?

>>725153510
I don't think they are- this whole thing started when some guy said 'pretty much all women are whores' I said i didn't think that was the case. it kind of spiraled from there

>>725153559

> My only agenda is 'not bullshit'

i don't think anyone knows what your agenda is...at least not me anyway.

>>725153699
that's fine then.

he did say "pretty much"...which probably means not all.

>>725153510
*cont : I don't think this is a womens rights thing at all- just answering that guys question

Some people (including myself) don't care. I don't fucking care if she finds me attractive or not, I don't care if she wants to be there or not, I don't care if she has a bad time and I certainly don't give a fuck if she wants to come back or not, as a matter of fact I DON'T want her to come back at all, females are treacherous whores with the intent to fuck with you, seeing them at the bottom of the barrel being used like the disgusting whores that they are make me happy.

>>725153829

calm down please. you're scaring the children

>>725153890
this is an 18+ board big fella

>>725153932

please calm down

>>725153712
oh some guy was blaming his going to hookers on his mother being some overly domineering woman to his father who worker really hard, so by extension he's sexually fucked up and goes to whores, some other dude said he went to whores because he never got any attention and that it made no difference because most women were whores anyway- a bit more of that stuff- I just called bullshit as I saw it, but bothered to stay in the thread and see where it went

>>725154037
ok

>>725153829
mommy issues detected

>>725154080
pretty much

Okay, I'm out- thanks /b/ it's been fucking pointless :) love you cunts.

>>725154058

thanks. i love you

>>725137932

perhaps you're gay and normal blokes just like to shag without the bullshit.

>>725137932
i think you will be ok if you just keep sucking dicks op