Ask a proud pro ISIS Turk something

i hate islam. go kill yourself you muslim fuck

>>725116473
how disappointed are your parents?

>>725116733
he doesnt have parents they all fucking abandoned that ugly piece of shit

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>>725116473
When the Russians finally occupies Turkey and NATO occupies the entire Middle East and Northern Africa, how do you think the Constantinople will be split up?

>>725116473
I have a severe cuck fetish, could you fuck the girl I like?

>>725116473
why are muslims goat fuckers?

>>725117086
i think we all know the answer to that

>>725116473
Warum gibst du dich als türken aus du hurensohn.
Zurück zu pi....keine gute werbung für deine afd hier auf 4chan.

>>725116473
Nice bait, mate.

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this fucker isnt even answering questions

ITT: B8
Also there is literally nothing wrong with being a muslim

>>725117333
Wait how do you know my mom I don't understand

>>725117192
Shut up Nazi
Go find a Hitler thread

>>725117466
everyone knows your mom OP. Her pussy is looser than lisa ann's

>>725117550
Ich weiss das du mich verstehst du nuttensohn. Du armes würstchen

>>725117558
Yeah but there's no way you know my mom but you've never been over to the house there's no way you could possibly I don't understand what you're talking about that's were talking about politics I don't I don't know what the fuck you're talking about you don't know my mom and I don't really I don't really don't I really don't know what you're talking about

>>725117665
shut up yo hitler worshipper do lick your moms nipple

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>>725116651
Soon my friend
>>725116733
They are dead
>>725116800
This is true my friend
>>725117086
Very soon the world will belong to Allah and the Muslims, the territories will be united by Mohammad
>>725117008
Allah forbids it
>>725116916
Why are Scots sheep fuckers?

>>725117706
we go to the same mosque you illiterate fuck

>>725116800
actually they suicide bombed.

way to be an insensitive prick, jeeze

>>725116473
as someone of middle eastern descent i can safely say go kys goat fucker. you muslim fucks ran my parents out of their own country 40 years ago for not converting. you all deserve to have america rain nukes on you

>>725117801
Fuck Allah. See that's the beauty of living in a free society I can say fuck you and fuck your God

LETS START A MUHAMMED DRAWING CONTEST IN THIS THREAD, WHOEVER CAN FIT THE MOST DICKS IN HIS HOLES WINS

>>725118105
Don't do that I will report you and you will be put on a list of infidels

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>>725116473
Sure, kid.

>>725118202
he can if he wants u fucker

>>725116473
you mispelled "cockroach" bro

>>725118311
Why would he want me I'm fat and not gay

>>725117851
> for not converting

Well, if your parents took 'religion' so serious... there is no difference between them and any other Muslim sandniggers. Otherwise they'd have converted and kept living as if they were Muslims.

>>725118420
listen OP ill submit a tip into the FBI

Why aren't you still in Turkey? You filthy parasite. You can't even handle a mudslime country, you shitskinned cock gobbler.

>>725118544
they have some bullshit religion but at least its a peaceful one that doesnt call for violence under any circumstance unlike the fucking muzzies or christians

>>725118544
you are obviously a retard, when a country is taken over by muslims they impose sharia law, his parents simply converting would not have been an easy " now i just say im a muslim" thing it would have been a complete lifestyle change involving his mother losing the majority of her rights

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>>725119215
Name a "christian leader" anywhere on the same level as this guy. We'll wait. You fedora-tipping idiots really need to stop trying to equate muzzies and christians, you just look uneducated af.

Too many wannabe-edgy teens angry because mammy woke them up early on sunday morning to go to church.

>>725118554
>Implying they're not already lurking

>>725119550
im not talking about leaders retard read what i wrote. i said the religion calls for violence sometimes, as in the writings. the bible has many calls to violence as well as the quaran. dont try to justify your horseshit beliefs over some other retards faggot

>>725119550
If anything, that pic tells me he has a pretty solid bubble.

>>725116473
get v& 7th century throwback ideological scum

go find a child to fuck weirdo

you pussies would get rekt if your "army" fought a real army head up.

This is why you resort to bitch made tactics

It's not a holy war, you guys are just gigantic faggot beta pussies.

Cutting heads off doesn't make you a man.

>>725116473
How many little boys have u raped?

>>725119550
plus there are plenty of christians who murder in the name of their god, see planned parenthood shootings for evidence you fgt

>>725120055
Look up the numbers, faggot. Comparing Christian extremist murders to Muslim extremist murders is like comparing your dick to the Burj Khalif.

>>725116473
Islam is a cancer that needs to be removed from the face of this planet. There's nothing like moderate or good Islam. Islam is Islam. It's oppressive and degenerate. It's not compatible with modern society. It was invented for Arab tribes that were fighting each other constantly. So go kill yourself and make some space and resources available for civilized people.

>>725120205
im not comparing numbers. my original statement was that both idealogies are retarded and call for violence for retarded reasons. learn to argue faggot

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>>725119959
I'm using leaders as a reflection of the community, just like the leaders in literally any other group reflect the members. Are you braindead? I don't disagree that both books call for violence but the circumstances and context are drastically difference and clearly in Christian writings it's in defense 99% of the time while islam advocates for offensive violence 99% of the time. Again, not comparable. But even further than that, the amount of people who take those calls to violence literally in the Christian religion are relatively non-existent while the majority of muslims DO take those words literally and follow them even today. THAT'S the problem.

>>725120055
>Trying to equate 2-3 people getting shot to a literal genocide of Christians in the middle east by fundamental followers of a different religion.

This is why no one takes liberals/lefties/muslim apologists seriously. You're trying to compare 2-3 shootings to literally thousands and say they're the same thing when they very clearly are not.

Better luck next time, kiddies.

Better luck next time.

>>725120377
> comparing the murders committed by two groups, and pretending the numbers don't matter
That's some seriously crazy thinking there, anon.

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>>725120377
But you're haphazardly trying to equate the two ideologies and lump them in the same basket with generalizations when, in fact, to have a proper discussion you HAVE to look at the numbers.

Learn logic, faggot.

>>725116473
How do you feel about Atatürk, specifically his secularism?

>>725119550
You don't need a Christian or any religious fuck to counter this goat fucker. He's a faggot and so are you. If he was truly the caliph, which he's not, he'd be on the frontlines fighting infidels, instead he's running and hiding like a fucking coward. He's a cuck who can only record audio messages for his faggot delusional followers

>>725120530
> I don't disagree that both books call for violenc
should have been the end of your shitty argument. and i dont think you know enoguh about christianity to claim that 99% of calls to violence are in self defense. were the crusades self defense? how bout we take it a step further and look at manifest destiny, that a belief rooted in christianity is that self defense? you should have left it at agreeing hthat both books are violent and wrong

>>725120540
nobody is comparing murders, nice straw man. again my original claim is that both texts advocate violence for dumb reasons. your only argument seems to be " muh christian self defense" which is a fucking retarded one. youre clearly underage with a limited understanding of these topics

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>>725116473
Are you ready for LIBERATION™

>>725120654
nice straw man breh, im not equating ideologies, im simply saying both advocate for violence for bad reasons, is that true or not? i think it is

>>725116473
You're gonna die when shit goes down

>>725121338
roll for this

i wish islam would rule the world honestly seeing all these butthurt kids on the internet

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Ah well... okay

>>725121396
you wish that until youve experienced what its like to live in a culture that never experienced the enlightenment.

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>>725121015
>should have been the end of your shitty argument

No, faggot, it shouldn't have been. You're ignoring literally any bit of context to try and make your position sound sane but you're just illogical and irrational.

Your argument in a nutshell:
>One group of people read the first harry potter book, a few shot some people.
>A second group read the second harry potter book and have killed hundreds of thousands times more than the people who read the first book instead.
>They're the same.

Makes no fucking sense and don't even bring up the Crusades. First, the crusades aren't mentioned anywhere in religious scripture, or any justification for it, and second, it was a defensive campaign as a result of the muslims sacking Jerusalem. Third, it wasn't even specifically a religious campaign and had just as much to do with trade routes and economic growth as it did religion.

>How about we take it a step further
How about we do. Manifest destiny? That's not a Christian-based belief, that was as secular as it gets dumbass. Even the Chinese railroad workers who moved in from the west, and who clearly were not Christian, believed in Manifest Destiny.

At the base of both examples, those happened hundreds of years ago. Hundreds. They're in no way equatable to idiots in the dessert today, in 2017, still doing the shit they're doing.

Again, you're uneducated as shit and just some angsty 14 year old who thinks it's cool to say "church sucks dude." None of your arguments are based on actual history and you should crack a book open sometime instead of making yourself look like an ass.

>>725121690
desert, stupid auto-correct*

>>725121690
look kid you dont seem to be making any sense anymore, your analogy is of two people reading the same fucking book dummy, im talking about two different books. you also seem to be implying that i think christians have done as much damage in recent years as muslims which i have never claimed, muslims do much more damage in the modern day than christians. you are simply changing my argument to suit your autistic rebuttle, my original statement is that both books advocate for stupid violence. i never claimed christians committed the same amount. can you honestly say both books dont contain bad reasons to be violent? because if you have read either you cant make that claim. youre trying to make my argument something its not because yours makes no sense. youre clearly butthurt about my original statement for some reason and youre trying to form an argument against something i never claimed. to reiterate. my original claim is that both books advocate violence for bad reasons. this is true is it not? im not saying christians commit as much violence. just that both books say stupid shit that advocates it. now go to bed its past your bedtime you autistic little fuck

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>>725116473
How do you justify Jihad?

When did God decide your assistance was needed to fulfill his law?

When Cain murdered Able did God ask you to stone Cain? No God banished him and said that none should harm him.

You still do not understand who these "liars who claim to be Jews" really are.

It is NOT our job to interfere with our Creators plans.

>>725116916
Mmmmm I'll take two please.

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>>725122016
>you don't seem to be making any sense any more

How much simple do you need your analogies?
Also, the koran writings are built off of the bible itself just like a muddied-up sequel that changes a few characters and if you had ever read either one from cover to cover you'd actually understand that.

I'm not changing your argument at all. I'm saying you're an idiot for trying to equate the two without context which is what you've repeatedly tried to do throughout this thread.

>plus there are plenty of christians who murder in the name of their god, see planned parenthood shootings for evidence you fgt

How were you NOT trying to equate the two again? Those are your words verbatim.

You clearly made a comparison between the PEOPLE of the religion, not the books themselves and now you've tried to backpeddle when you got BTFO but you're still just factually wrong on all counts.

>autism autism autism!

Sad that you had to fall back on that a half dozen times in one post and clearly the only butthurt one here is you. You're not logical. Not rational at all. You're just another dumbass who thinks he knows shit from shit and makes himself look dumb as fuck anytime an actual critical conversation about a topic comes up because you're woefully unprepared for it.

Not my problem, you should really educate yourself though unless you enjoy looking like a moron.

>>725122560
your analogy was retarded and didnt work it was two people reading the same book.

those are my words, i was simply showing that either book can be used to advocate violence. i stand by my statement you just seem to be misinterpreting what i meant by it because youre autistic

>>725122717
>>725122560

do you disagree that either book can be used to advocate violence for bad reasons? simple yes or no question

>>725117192
AfD wird bei der nächsten Wahl eh gewählt werden... Oder die Npd, kannste dir aussuchen

>>725122560
also your statement abotu the koran and bible being the essentially the same is a point to my argument you autist.
youre changing my argument to something its not. ive repeated it clearly multiple times

>>725116473
What does your dad's foreskin taste like?

>>725122560
are u just a christfag angry someone lumped you in with the muzzys for being a retard? because you are a retard just like them

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Fuck Islam
The God emperor will get you

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>>725122717
>>725122787
CAN be used and IS used are two vastly different positions. Your original argument was it IS used "hurr durr what about planned parenthood shooting?" I pointed out that one (islam) is used 1,000 times more and is, indeed, an appropriate piece of context to be addressed in the conversation.

Now you've backpedalled to CAN be used instead of IS.

Again, you're not half as smart as you think you are, kid.

CAN they be used? Sure. So can a fucking coloring book if you have enough fanatic people who love coloring books. ARE they both used (and if so, at anywhere near the same rate?).
No.

You fedora-tipping faggots claim to be so smart and logical, yet your entire positions lack even the slightest level of rationale to them. It's part of the reason you're a laughing stock. You'll grow out of it one day.

>>725121131
I've posted twice in this thread. You seem to have confused several people and lumped them together into big enemy, stuffed with straw

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>>725116473
Nobody is your friend here you piece of human garbage.
Also how does it feel to live in that shit hole instead of enjoying western white life with all privilege?

>>725123235
once again see planned parenthood shootings for an example of how it is used in modern day, never did i say christians did more damage in modern day though. however they do some. youre a retard point number 1. also way to not answer my simple yes or no questionl. retard point number 2. your analogy made no sense please explain how two people interpreting harry pottter differently is the same as reading reading two different books and murdering because of them. retard point number three. now once again i will ask you a simple question retard. do you agree that both books call for violence for bad reasons or not? very simple yes or no

>>725117801
Mohamed is dead, Allah doesn't exists. You are just brain washed, believing in nonsense like Amway people.

>>725123161
I'm not christfag and I'm not angry. I just have little tolerance for apologist idiots trying to equate Christianity/Buddhism/Hindus to Muslims as if they're the same and their followers behave in the same manner because it's just factually untrue and borderline propaganda.

Just look at the evidence this moron presented. Every one of them has to go back to the Crusades, literally a thousand years ago, to find any semi-comparative campaign to the violence, murder, and genocide the muslims are committing today in multiple countries. That's the antithesis of logic yet the same people who do exactly that are the ones who also claim to be rational and educated. It's hypocrisy at it's finest and I'm going to point it out every time I see it. Normal people don't like to be wrong and even the dumbest motherfucker can realize how wrong that other faggot's position is.

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>>725117231
That's what I'm saying.
>pic related

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>>725119550
>PhD in Islamic studies
>Islamic University

Making a diploma from fucking sheep, paying 7 times per day. You can't be taking seriously with this paper in your hand

>>725123563
i am in no way an apologist as you make me out to be. if thats your argument you can just gtfo rn. i think that islam should be eradicated. however my original statement stands 100% true, both holy books argue for bad reasons for violence.

the recent evidence i provided for something for recent thant the crusades wasnt to your liking because it was a planned parenthood shooter.
forthe last time. you do not seem to understand my argument, i think both religions are absolute garbage. i think one is more garbage than the other, but both are garbage, the bible offers reasons for violence just like the koran.

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>>725123463
>CAN they be used? Sure.

How did I not answer your question again? Do you even know how to read or just regurgitate multiculturalist propaganda someone's shoving down your throat? You're a tool and it's pathetic.

You're trying to play stupid now and failing miserably yet again. Just give it up kid, if you can't even understand simple analogies that a 2nd grader can pick up on, you're unprepared for a critical conversation.

>>725123563
now for a third time ill ask you, do you think that both books advocate for bad reasons for violence?

>>725123876
MULTICULTURALIST PROPAGANDA. oh jeez, now youre really getting away from my argument lol, did you not read the part where i said islam should be eradicated?
trying to play stupid? im making coherent points and all you an do is make bad analogies that dont work and try to change my argument into something its not, youve lost this one buddy

>>725123876
now for a fourth fucking time, i will ask you to answer a simple yes or no question. do both holy books advocate for violence for bad reasons or not?
because that is the only point i am trying to make, any other argument youre trying to attach to it is your own problem

>>725116473

Why? How are they anything more to you than a group of backwards religious nut hicks? You know Turkey is fucking murdering ISIS right now, yea?

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>>725123846
>the recent evidence i provided for something for recent thant the crusades wasnt to your liking because it was a planned parenthood shooter.

It had nothing to do with planned parenthood. Your "evidence" was just factually retarded. You tried to compare 2-3 people dying because of 1-2 fundamentalists from Christianity when, in the same amount of time, fundamentalist muslims slaughtered, what, 5,000+ human beings?

It's a false equivalency; illogical. And if you have to go back 1,000 years to find any numbers that are even nearly comparable, it's very likely that your position is wrong.

If anything, Christians today are more comparable to Buddhists than Muslims based on acts of violence.

The entire point is the "hurr durr muslims is same as christians" argument is something that intellectually vapid and lazy people use when they're not educated enough to think for themselves. Ironically, not thinking for oneself is what a lot of anti-religious people claim that most every "religious" person does and one of the reasons they dislike them. Again, I'm pointing out the holes in your thinking and your lack of any actual logic or education on the topic. I could give a fuck less, just don't try to drop some pseudo-intellectual argument you pulled directly out of your ass into this thread and expect no one to call you out on what an incredible idiot you are.

>>725124333
okay agaian youre completely ignoring everything i said and assigning an argument to me instead of answering my simple question. my point is in no way to claim that christians are like muslims. christians in todays age are much more benign. for the last time ill ask you a simple question. do both holy books advocate for violence for bad reasons or not?

>>725124333
you cant seem to answer a simple question dude, i dont think i need to act like an intellectual to make you talk yourself into a corner. you have no argument here so you repeatedly try to change mine to create one for yourself

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>>725124458
>>plus there are plenty of christians who murder in the name of their god, see planned parenthood shootings for evidence you fgt

>my point is in no way to claim that christians are like muslims

Only that's exactly what you did. How retarded are you precisely? I also already answered your question so typing it "hurrr for the 4th time" only makes you look even more moronic. Do you seriously not have the self-awareness to realize how fucking retarded you look right now?

This shit is golden.

>>725124333

Christians are not really better than Muslims. The religions are at different periods of social evolution. Not even 200 years ago, Christians were killing people who didn't attend church, they were putting down science because it wasn't 'godly', they were doing all sorts of insane crap just like the Muslims do today. Christians just finally grew out of it as a culture, and eventually so will Islam.

>>725116733
>implying parents arent roaches too

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>>725124861
>Christians are not really better than Muslims.

I never claimed they were. I said that they're not comparable at all on levels of violence.

>Not even 200 years ago, Christians were killing people who didn't attend church

Proof or just more unsubstantiated bullshit as usual?

>Christians just finally grew out of it as a culture

Or it probably wasn't a fundamental tenant of their religion to begin with. Sounds more logical.

>....and eventually so will Islam

Based on what evidence? What actual proof do you have to make that claim. I would argue they're just as likely, if not more likely, to completely collapse as a region under their own barbarism and ass-backwards ideology than they are to actually evolve based on the past 1,600 years of their history but I'm open-minded and willing to change my position if you have some actual evidence to claim otherwise. That evidence just does not exist. It's really that simple.

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>>725116473

>>725125264

Christianity didn't collapse during the middle ages, there's no shortage of stupid people to believe anything. Islam will unfortunately be fine.

I'm a Christian btw. There's no need to get so defensive. Humans ruin everything. Even religion. Don't act like Christianity has been above it.

As far as people being killed in the 1800s for not being Christian....Russia, friend. Other places as well but that was the biggest offender.

>>725117801
What's the plan to unite the Islamic territories? ISIS gets fragged more often by other Muslims than anyone else

>>725125655
oh stop. You own all us mexicans and don't care about anyone else in Central Cali. Stop acting so innocent.

>>725116473
Beynini sikeyim orospu çocuğu sike sürülecek beynin yok gelmiş burda bişeye yanıt vermeye çalışıyosun.

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Thats it!

>>725116473
>Ask a proud pro ISIS Turk something
Would you consider it "racist" or "islamophobic" or "discriminatory" if Muslims in an explicitly christian nation had to live under rules equivalent to those which apply to Christians under sharia law?

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>>725125676
>Christianity didn't collapse during the middle ages, there's no shortage of stupid people to believe anything.

How is this evidence at all that Islam will survive and evolve from the overt barbarism present today? It's not evidence. It's not even related to Islam at all. You're simply full of shit and your positions are not based on facts or evidence, that much is clear.

>There's no need to get so defensive
I'm not defensive in the slightest, I'm looking for the logic in your positions and statements and there is none.

>Humans ruin everything. Even religion.

I disagree and you just seem overtly pessimistic but whatever.

>Don't act like Christianity has been above it.

Only Christianity has been objectively "above it" when you look at actual evidence and numbers. Based on the number of people killed/maimed as a direct result of religious campaigns launched by either religion, the numbers for Christians are maybe 10% of deaths attributed to Muslim violence. Based on those metrics, Christianity is objectively "better" or "above it" to a drastic degree because less violence is ALWAYS better.

>As far as people being killed in the 1800s for not being Christian....Russia, friend.

Again, post actual evidence. Links, information. You are really bad at this. Show actual evidence to support your claim that "people were killed for not making it to church." You have none. That's also one of the worst countries you could have picked considering they killed off 50 million people 3 decades later precisely because they WERE religious and didn't follow the communist state.

>other places as well

What other places? Post actual facts, again, actual evidence. Just "I heard this one story one time when I was 12" doesn't hold water in an adult conversation, sorry.

Goddamn you people are severely under-educated and lacking in basic critical thinking.

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>>725125676
Muslims today are still throwing acid in the faces of women for not wearing a headscarf in some middle eastern nations. Quit trying to act as though Christianity and Islam are comparable in any way in 2017. Islam is still in its "crazy death cult" stage. Christians, by and large, will just shame you and moralize you to make you feel bad. Still better than an acid face wash.

Constantinople will be Greek again u fuckin sand nigger. Bow down and pray to your nigger fairy tale as my whipe my ass with it

>>725126202

What is actually wrong with you? You could find all the info you want if you cared to look. How about the US, then? When Christianity was used as justification for slavery and repressing women? Because it fuckin was, mate. I'm just using the easiest and most common sense examples I can think of now because I know you're only interested in having a 'logical' conversation with your 'open mind' over there. Do you even realize I agree with you on every single point except for one? How hard is it to recognize that Christians were at one time fucking barbaric?

>>725126303

Obviously Islam isn't a picnic and does not belong on the face of this planet. It is reprehensible that they treat half their population (women) like subhumans.

>>725126337
Greek my ass, how bout you start paying your debts before you talk about invading other countries?

>>725126910
The point is, Christians were at one time in their history pretty terrible. But that was centuries ago, so how is that relevant today? Islam, meanwhile, is still stuck in the 1500s and shows no signs of a Reformation (something Christianity went through in the 16th century). Islam has no place even existing anywhere in the West. It's completely incompatible with Western values.

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>>725126910
>What is actually wrong with you?

Something's wrong with me for asking you to substantiate your bullshit claims? Wew kid.

>If you cared to look

Again, it has nothing to do with "caring to look." You don't just sling bullshit not based on any facts then get upset when someone calls you on it. Prove it.

>How about the US, then?

You mean "how about I derail from the original bullshit I was spewing because I can't actually prove any of the bullshit I said and want to move on to something else to save face"? Got it.

>justification for slavery and repressing women
Hundreds of years ago and only for roughly 200 years. Versus islam that has used it's koran since it's inception to justify slavery and repressing women and STILL do so today. Again, Christianity is objectively "better" when using your very own metrics.

>I'm just using the easiest and most common sense examples

No, you're not. 80% of what you're saying is bullshit and when you're asked for links to substantiate it, you get triggered. The other 20%, like the facts I pointed out in the above paragraph, only help to prove MY point and disprove your own.

>>725124219
Untrue. They still buying oil from them, also providing them with weapons.
Each time the media tells you Turkey hit some ISIS target, they actually bomb either Kurds or pro Assad targets.
Most of Turks do support ISIS and celebrate terrorist attacks when occur in Europe.
I was in Istanbul during the German attacks and were several people laughing when the televisions were covering the incidence.

>>725127228

You are correct. The reason it is relevant today is because the timeline of Christian evolution may give us insight as to the timeline of Islamic evolution. People only change so much in a generation because they won't absorb that many new social ideas.

Keep in mind Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity, and that they are roughly like Christians were 600 years ago lends a bit of credence to the idea.

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>>725127592
And why the fuck should we wait 600 years while this crazy death cults kills, maims, and persecutes people on the off chance that they might one day reform?

Fuck that.

>>725127735
Not an argument

>>725127886

Did I say let them be? No, I did not. Something should be done about them. Jesus you people are insane.

>>725116473

Hows that Visa coming?

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>>725127592
>may
Maybe. Might. Not the same as will, can, or want to.

>they are roughly like Christians were 600 years ago.

Prove it with specific examples. You can't. And that's the problem with you dumbass kids. If you actually cracked open a history or theology book you'd realize that the very foundations of both religions are so drastically different and events built atop that foundations so unrelated that they're not even comparable. Jfc, teach yourself something someday instead of swallowing so much bullshit.

>>725128037
I like how when you get called out on bullshit and proven wrong, you just call us insane. Go fuck yourself

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>>725126202
you fucking destroyed him

>>725116473
mcfucking kill yourself op

>>725127053
Said the guy that has triple the debt Greece has top kek

>>725117401
There's literally EVERYTHING wrong with being a muslim.

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>>725127964

You're just that kid that always has to be right about everything. Even if you aren't. You'll downplay what you can't disprove. Here, I'll prove it to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_violence

Mormons in the 1800s were both perpetrators and receivers of Christian religious violence.

How about the treatment of Jews by Christians as late as 1945?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom

Or Christian sentiments towards them?

"At the end of the 1890s, the U.S. began seeing the first wave of anti-Semitism, just as the federal government began restricting immigration from Europe. While concentrations of Jews have lived in America since colonial times, they were largely tolerated and discriminated against in localized incidents. By the 1920s, immigration quotas had taken effect and limits on the basis of national origin. These quotas were not repealed during the Holocaust, even as Jewish refugees were fleeing Hitler’s Europe.

Between 1933 and 1939, the period of the Great Depression, anti-Semitic fervor reached heights never before seen or later seen in entire the history of the Jewish experience in America. In urban areas such as New York and Boston, Jews were violently attacked.[8] Most anti-Jewish sentiment was manifested in social and political discrimination. Assaults, propaganda and intimidation were mostly carried out by special societies, such as the Silver Shirts or the Ku Klux Klan."

Not barbaric enough for you? Try this one for size.

https://www.thoughtco.com/witches-women-and-witchcraft-249552

Oh look, people are still being killed in isolated incidents for suspected witchcraft. Quaint.

Slavery is fun!

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/12/how-the-bible-was-used-to-justify-slavery-abolitionism/

Oh, and desegregation was in the 70s idiot. Christianity was literally used to keep a race subservient economically and politically in the US until 40 fucking years ago.

To repress gays etc until 5 years ago.

I'm done.

Why was your "prophet" so disgusting?


Sunan Abu Dawud 67—I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah: Water is brought for you from the well of Buda’ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual cloths and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Sunan Ibn Majah 520—It was narrated that Jabir bin Abdullah said: “We came to a pond in which there was the carcass of a donkey, so we refrained from using the water until the Messenger of Allah came to us and said: ‘Water is not made impure by anything.’ Then we drank from it and gave it to our animals to drink, and we carried some with us.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 5782—Allah’s Messenger said, “If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it (into the vessel) and then throw it [i.e. the fly] away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing (antidote for it) i.e. the treatment for that disease.”

Musnad Ahmad 16245—[Mua’wiya said]: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire).

>>725117086
Why are all whities cuckolds?

>>725128150

You think you are open minded and enlightened but in reality you are a slave to your own preconceptions. what's sad is you will probably never realize it because you are not physically able to. In the end you are just as unreasonable as the Islamic shitheads you profess to be so much better than.

Have a good day.

>>725118029
>free society
>only dares to say it on a anonymous imageboard

>>725128991
Why dont you look up sunni hadiths and not fabricated shia hadiths meant to hurt the prophet.

>>725129321

Why don't you not look up either because they are arbitrary piles of shit.

>>725128150
The foundations for both are literally Judaism. They are called Abrahamic religions. By all means drown yourself in a toilet.

>>725129321
>Sunni Hadiths
Al-Kutub Al-Sittah (The six books)

Sahih Bukhari of Muhammad al-Bukhari.
Sahih Muslim of Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj.
Sunan al-Sughra of Al-Nasa'i.
Sunan Abu Dawud of Abu Dawood.
Sunan al-Tirmidhi of Al-Tirmidhi.
Sunan Ibn Majah of Ibn Majah.

Wait wait, let me guess, these are also fabrications by Zionist Jewish black magicians? Allah sure allows his word to be fabricated a lot! How weak!

>>725129619
Disregard that last part, Hadiths are only a biography of the life of Mohammad, but they do contain information about how Mohammad received revelation and the context of many verses found in the Qur'an.

You're probably just a /pol/ troll though

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>>725129112
Another faggot with no actual proof to back up their dumbshit statements bites the dust. Too easy.

>>725128857
Oh boy. Look at this kid.

>Mormons in the 1800s were both perpetrators and receivers of Christian religious violence

And receivers of Chinese violence, and Irish violence and everyone else. Literally everyone hated mormons, this was not a "Christian violence" thing anywhere near sunni/shi'ite violence we see today.

If you knew fuck-all about US history, you would know the reason they were so despised is specifically because they advocated for polygamy. It had nothing to do with religion and was a severe violation of SOCIAL norms so much so that Roosevelt, as president, banned them from immigrating to the US because of polygamy alone.

>How about treatment of jews by Christians as late as 1945?

Pogroms were campaigns by COMMUNIST Russia which didn't have a state religion and certainly was not Christian. They also had pogroms against Christians, "gypsies" and the handicapped or mentally disabled. Again, your bullshit doesn't fly here.

>At the end of the 1890s, the U.S. began seeing the first wave of anti-Semitism, just as the federal government began restricting immigration from Europe

Wait, so anti-semitic sentiments by "the US" is now "Christian violence"? So are you admitting, finally, that the US is a Christian nation based on Christian values or are you still trying to stick with the position that the US is a secular nation that should welcome all immigrants as a melting pot?

Which is it? You're the same type of faggot that talks out of both sides of his mouth and would argue "hurr US is secular and always has been so we should accept all cultures and religions" while you're here now literally saying that

>the U.S. began seeing the first wave of anti-Semitism

to try and show evidence of Christian violence when it doesn't say that anywhere in the material at all. You're a fucking idiot plain and simple.

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>>725129619
Give me the chain of narrators for those hadiths.

>>725120000
quads of truth

>mfw beta faggots go on a jihad as an excuse to enslave women because they're too pussy to pull a bitch in the real world

>>725129856
Here's what you should do instead, go ahead and research the most authentic and trustworthy Hadith you could possibly find about Mohammad.

Read it all, and I can guarantee you at some point you will almost puke in your own mouth from what a horrible person Mohammad was.

Even the Qur'an calls Christians and Jews "apes and pigs" and commands you to fight us.

Islam is indefensible and a threat to all mankind. I love Muslims, but Islam as an ideology and a religion, must be destroyed.

>>725129835

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You could kill a king cobra with that venom. Be careful with it. I'm sure you are completely objective on this subject. Goodnight anon! Nobody will ever read your part 2!

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>>725128857
>To repress gays etc until 5 years ago.

Nigger, how stupid are you exactly? Show me a law on the books in the US that was repealed 5 years ago that made it legal to kill gays based on religion, because I can show you countries that follow sharia law today, on Saturday, that will still toss a faggot off a roof and kill them if the accusation's even made that he's fucking another dude.

Get fucking real man, there is literally no comparison at all.

Salem witch trials? You mean one colony in the 1700s that killed a few dozen people? How's that comparable at all to muslims today throughout Africa hacking people to pieces by the hundreds with machetes when they're accused of "sorcery" and the behavior is condoned by the government?

All you have are false equivalencies and 300 year old examples to try and sound sane instead of just admitting you're wrong as fuck.

Kek

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>>725130091
You literally tried to spin information that said "US citizens" to call it "Christian violence" and I called you out on it.

You tried to call Russian, communist Pogroms "Christian violence" when Christians themselves were victims of the pogroms. I called you on it.

You tried to say the way gays were treated in the US up to 5 years ago was the same as them being murdered, cut into pieces, and thrown off buildings in the ME today is comparable. I called you on it.

I think you're just triggered because your realize just how fucking stupid you sound and finding out that your propaganda doesn't fly here. Falling back on corny movie quotes doesn't hide the fact that you're a fucking idiot, sorry. It's just that simple.

>>725117801
>Why are Scots sheep fuckers?

If you saw the women here, you wouldn't ask.

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>>725121449
This just in, that web cartoonist got beheaded

>>725116473
this is an excellent argument

eliminate all mosques and churches, theres no such thing as a moderate zealot

>>725131973
oh wow, when did that happen? do you have proof?

I need a citation for my blog

>>725132147
sorry i was joking.

i just assume it would happen if he really signed his name to it.

>>725132239
ok i'm going to publish it anyway because I need the money

sorry it might actually result in westerners dying but i need the money

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>>725116473
ppl today still think it was an actual coup of the religious side of turkey.
instead it was a staged coup using conscripts in order to murder the seculars in the military.

>>725132387
wow america sucks

why do they have IEDS there every day?

white people are the worst

Okay fags, here's the deal, Turkey is becoming a dictatorship (I say becoming because it's going to get worse) and their tyrant is going to cause WW3.
Fun fact the middle east and most of the 3rd world will be on one side and believe it or not America and Russia will fight together, however the reason the west wont wipe out the rest of the world in the blink of an eye is because there will be a lot of friction between all its members (sausage party). That being said the world will end, nobody wins.
P.S. Israel will suk sum dik hard.

>>725119959
>sometimes
hahahahahaha
Only if you are in the house of war, which is every non islamic place

>the bible has calls to violence
Not any more as they reformed. even then it didnt outmatch the book of war named quran. its better then the art of war btw, sun tzu was a loser.

>The they do it to argumentation, confirmed muslim

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>>725117801
faggot

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>>725120000
>Cutting heads off
Did you know that many of the folk lore of europe is based on the past 1500 years of raids by the muslims.

These past few decades socities memory is changing and the stories are basterized so they no longer represent the truth.

>who bastardized these things you say.
Well the movies did
>who made these movies?
The jews.

>but the jews hate muslims
Well yeah they say so in their text but genetically the are somewhat the same ppl, first bit is islam is based on the tora

>>725120205
You are falling in to th etrap of semantics here, do you think the muslims dont know, you are being played like a fool.

>fucking newfags

>>725120377
>retarded reasons
nothe old testemant has reason to call for violence unlike the quran.
More so the first testemant had pieces that would protect their pp of savage like religions.

Their book got changed
>why was this changed?
Muslims were able to kill and murder because Christians turned the other cheek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

>>725120743
Who is ataturk?
>he is long forgotten all his policies are gone now

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>>725121013
>fighting infidels,
but breeding sons with european women whilst terroziing the locakls in to low birth rates is fighting jihad.
The fight in the middle east is fake. there are only a few thousands of deaths and millions are being flooding europe.

Muslims are not fighting in the me. they are fighting in the west and they are wining.

The admixture is destroying europe, the European population is less the 60% European

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>>725121015
>crusades self defense?
yes

>>725121690
>muslims sacking Jerusalem.
Imad ad-Din al-Isfahani, Saladin's chronicler, goes into lengthy and bizarre descriptions of the Frankish women taken captive from Jerusalem. I half-expected him to begin with "Dear Penthouse, I never thought it would happen to me..."

Women and children together totalled 8,000, and were quickly divided up amongst us, bringing smiles to Muslim faces at their lamentations. How many well-guarded women were profaned, how many queens were ruled, and nubile girls married, and noble women given away, and miserly women forced to give themselves, and women who'd been kept hidden stripped of their modesty, and proud women made ridiculous... precious women used for hard work, and pretty things put to the test, and virgins dishonored and proud women deflowered... untamed ones tamed, and happy ones made to weep!

>>725132387
of course it was staged, just to get rid of the opposition. Now Erdogan is fucking everyone in Turkey : politics, journalists, school teachers, bronies.

>>725133853
fake news, i have it on good authority that erdogan instituted free healthcare for all, free education for all and that all claims otherwise are jewish lies invented by the CIA

>>725119550
Islamic studies in islamic university???
OMFG...
why don't they say islamic Science, like all fuckin dimwit liberal studies?

xDDD

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>>725133795
Soo....you're rapist trash then and should be treated as such? Well, ok.

>>725117401
Autism at its finest

>>725124333
>Buddhists slaughtering and raping Muslims in Myanmar
>Comparing Christians and Muslim history based off of deaths

Next time dont bomb countries if you dont know what the fuck youre doing and how it will affect the world politically?

You faggots are arguing over the dumbest shit.

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I fucking hate turks. But only since recently with their ministers looking to stir up trouble in European countries etc. Someone post something to lessen my anger. Preferably removed kebab

>>725121015
HAHA the crusades were a retaliation after hundreds of years of Muslim occupation

>>725116473
forget this fucker
he will die, perhaps killing some westerners
he will not realize anything
his reward will be oblivion...nothingness
his only salvation is to realize this now
or to save his suicide belt for corrupt tribesman or countrymen who directly oppress his people.
If enough of them die, no amount of western money is worth the risk of polluting the place from which they were born.

Who would be the new enemy if muslims were eradicated? What's the story then?

>>725133795
so islamo-bro, why can't we bond over our common faith about how women and children should be treated ?

can't we all just get along ?

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>>725134874
>Buddhists slaughtering and raping muslims in myanmar

Again, you faggots love to try and play the victims in these equations but your stupid ass narratives already start somewhere past the middle.

>muslims moved into myanmar
>traditionally buddhist region
>attempted to establish sharia
>were promptly BTFO
>some kills, some rapes
>AFTER muslims were already doing the same thing to the buddhists for 20+ years
>cause and effect

Stop trying to play the victims when the equation is always the same. Muslims move into an area that isn't their own. Attempt to FORCE the indigenous people to convert or die. People revolt and kill the fuck out of them. Liberals be like:

>"Why you being so MEAN to muslims?"

Fuck outta here with that nonsense.

>Next time don't bomb countries.

Again, more false equivalencies. US FP or "who we bomb" is not based at all off of "Christians say we should bomb them, so we gotta bomb them." Your arguments are false and illogical and we both know it.

You can't, on one hand, claim that the US is a secular, western country that should accept all people and be a "melting pot" then, on the other hand blame the actions of the US, as a secular country, on "Christian aggression." That shit makes no fucking sense. It has to be one or the other and changing the goalposts whenever it suits your dumbass narrative is why no one takes you seriously.

>>725133795
Mega Please ?

>>725116473
>proud
>Turk
kek faggot, pick one.

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>>725122717

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sickening-new-isis-video-shows-9589888
https://youtu.be/b2nlIfn8tNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4K4okVa7dU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUGBLKY7rs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SViZi3kXQnw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4LmGPg8ScQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e8PCKVVxcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZEFNh0N_3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUs_Kw6dlBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuy-2y4DTwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Q8bImiPCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JquXlQTBWOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsArto3UVT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvlvS2a2AVE

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>>725123398
implying

GOD DOESNT EXIST, GET USED TO IT

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>>725124333
Why are you being dragged in to this diversion game?

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>>725124861
100% bullshit

>>725125264
>Christians are not really better than Muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8J62BqRMo

holy land under christian rule, everyone welcome
Holy land under islamic rule, every one gets raped

>>725125676
cristianity got changed during th edark ages because muslims where fucking shit up.

After centuries of muslims pillaging the shit out of you you would get a faith that says kill all non christians to.

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>>725126185
no we wil have no care for all those terms to guilt you and exploit us

>>725130014
>I love Muslims,
Why would you love a violent inbred horde of ppl that created this religion, religion was made by the ppl you redpilled lefty.

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>>725130343
>You literally tried to spin information
you fags still dont get it do you, whilst you sit here and argu the muslims gained 1% of the demographic

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>>725135211
Back to niggers

nigger + white = a muslim

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Hi cucks

http://imgur.com/a/0uE9f

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>>725135310
>Buddhists slaughtering and raping muslims in myanmar
muslims are so bad they got Buddhist to fight them

>>725116473

kek. see you on the battlefield, faggot. enjoy the JDAM, courtesy of the USAF.

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>>725135310
>Muslims move into an area that isn't their own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2dcciQIJEw

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>>725138483
thats not where you find the muslims any more

>>725120530
>Hindu Extremist

>>725116473
Did the Romania genocide actually happen?

>>725116473
How many Goats have you fucked in the past week?

>>725116473
is it true that when you want to fuck a goat, you have to put its back legs in your boots so it cant run away?

>>725116473
Why do you let your country get ruined by Erdogan?

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How does it feel like being inbred?

>>725116473
Damn. Respect for your true support. IS is almost destoyed and Turkey is about to collapse, but you're still proud. That's fucking awesome.

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>>725139017
You tell me

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>>725116473

REPORTED ;^)

>>725116473
What is better: donkey or goat?

>>725117801
It's the Welsh that fuck sheep you turbotard. The Scots fuck haggis.

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>>725116473

>>725116473
What are your feelings on the Armenian Genocide?