The earth is flat. convince me otherwise,, protip; u cant.

>>724551497
How does gravity work on a flat earth?

>>724551497
Why the hell should I bother trying when you outright said you're not going to be persuaded?

non stop 12 hour flight from sydney to santiago

on a flat earth that flight would take 40-50 hours

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>>724551632
gravity doesn't exist, prove him otherwise

protip; u can't

Where's the giant space turtle and elephants?

how can planes fly if there was gravity?

>>724551497
Luna eclipse

>>724551497
You live with your parents
and are attracted to children
you probably aren't employed
and your skin is white

prove me wrong:
protip u can't

>>724551497
And I suppose global warming is man made.

/tinfoil

>>724551497
Nope, I accept that you are a dumbass. There is no convincing dumbasses in my playbook.

>>724551799
I'm black actually

>>724551818
Black people don't know how to operate computers and you expect me to take your word for it? lel nigger

>>724551818
thats like admitting to being a faggot and a cripple, dont say that stuff on the internet

if the earth was flat, pancakes would be spherical

>>724551497
explain then mid summer nights and the exact opposite during winter.
What is exactly on the other side of "coin earth"?
And why i can't see high structures when i should see them on flat earth?

>kys

>>724551497
Can't be flat because of electricity

>>724551941
curtains..
australia.. & antartica
focuspoint of the human eyes dont reach that far

>>724551945
Explain

>>724552081
because electrons are round

>>724552034
Why can't I see tall structures with a telescope then?

The earth is flat, but that model OP posted is incorrect

The sun and moon travel around earth in the fashion that a line in a bullseye circles the face

>>724551497
What about all the proof of other planets and satellites that are simply impossible in a flat earth existence?

For starters, let Carl show you how even people hundreds of years ago were smarter than you, a person with access to all mankind's discoveries.
https://youtu.be/mUxmCXSmtVo

Also consider this, there are millions of people that take hobby on looking through telescopes. Ever heard of a telescope? It's like the microscope you use to see your dick and your brain but for big objects far away. Everywhere from hobbyist to professional, somebody would notice if things weren't how they said.

Also

The US government has been to other planets.

Look into Planet Serpo and the Majestic 12 mission. http://serpo.org/

Also, here's a fun document to chew on:
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf

This is an official declassified document where they had a psychic use a technique called Remote Viewing to see some history of Mars.

Also not to mention the Nazi bases on the dark side of the moon, don't have a link for it but you can google it. China and Russia saw that shit and said fuck ever going back up there.

>>724551497
Of course I can't... Because you're an iditot

>>724551497
mountains

>>724551702
Then why does everything I drop falls to earth?

>>724551497
eclipses. Other planets. Why are they all spherical obloids, but we're flat?

>>724551497
That's not flat, it has depth, a flat earth would be 2 dimensional since we have 3 dimensions the earth cannot be flat

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seems legit

Explain telescopes

>>724554127
It was a more central hit on the disc, that didn't happen. Also the flat disc has tremendous mass compared to an pin prick asteroid

>>724551497
ok

Every other planet / star we observe is round

> the earth is the only one that's flat

Makes sense if you're retarded

>>724551682
/thread

>>724552914
Weight

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Explain why I can't see Hawaii or the Rockies with a telescope in California if the earth is like you claim. Flat earth is as real as the DA RUSSHUNS hacking the election

Notice that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east in OP's pic. That's just as dumb as the flatness.

>>724554127
kek

>>724555315
>gravity doesn't exist
>wight keeps things on the surface
>weight is the force of gravity acting on an object

You see the hole in your logic, right?

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Shush.
If that were true then how can we bury underground?

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The discworld is thorougly described many times. You are missing the four giant elephants that hold up the disc, and the giant turtle that holds them up while flying in space. This is part of Terry Pratchett's brilliant and very funny fiction series.

>>724552533
I want whatever Abraham was smoking when thought of this.

>>724551497
Niggers. Why do they nigger?

You know wifi, but can't see it.
Explain!
OR show tits

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>>724551497
>protip; u cant.

but that's simply because you're scientifically illiterate, and struggle to comprehend the scope of scale of the world, and therefore latch onto absurd notions disconnected to reality.

So no, we cant convince you otherwise. we might as well play chess with pigeons.

>>724555991
>/thread
Nothing more to see here, you can all go home.

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>>724555315

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>>724551497
It's round around the edge.
Source: Look at your pic.

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>>724554127
>he still thinks dinosaurs are real
>implying it's not just a scam for scientists to make loads of money selling big fake plaster bones

>>724551497
iss.com/livestream

>>724557178
we all know the jews are just warping the image

>>724551497
Do you know why you can't see a person farther than 5 kilometers?

Because they disappear behind the curvature of the earth. If that wasn't in the way you'd be able to spot a person up to 10 kilometers away.

>not turning this into spiderman thread
I'm disappointed in you /b/

>>724555391
because you cannot afford that type of telescope

>>724551497
You don't exist. Prove me otherwise.

>>724554987

this

i think satellites are the biggest give away.
the difference between two dishes in two cities receiving a signal from the same satellite can be triangulated to calculate how high the satellite is.
Optus C1 satellite feed Foxtel to Perth and Sydney the difference in dish direction (compass) and height (vertical angle) in both cities can be used to triangulate the distance of the satellited from the earth surface which is 35,800 km ... so flat earthers , how does it stay up there

>>724551632
Conservation of energy. It would take force of some kind to hold objects in the air. When an object isn't supported or held there is no energy to keep it in place, and thus it falls to the ground.

>>724556530
this

There is a reason these retards believe in the Flat-earth, or other stupid shit like that. (I'm looking at you, organized religion)
There is NO convincing these people. they are mule-headed lost causes or just plain trolls.
I refuse to believe anyone with the mental skill to pay internet bills, turn on a computer, navigate to a website, and write legibly would believe in the flat-earth theory.

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>>724557946

>>724555991
>realized I typed wight
fuck

>>724551818
GTFO, B.O.B. I though Neil explained this shit to you already.

>>724551497
magellan and many others say hi

>>724551497
im a pilot and this shit is just hilarious

>>724552484
>Ever heard of a telescope? It's like the microscope you use to see your dick and your brain

Rekt

>>724557794
some flat earthers say there is a dome which is 3000 miles at the point above the north pole , so the satellite is far outside the dome , remembering it can also received thousands of kilometres into open ocean , nowhere near a land based antennae

>>724558063
Here is the thing, you act all high and mighty but how many degrees of separation away are you from someone who has verified anything put out by mainstream science in the last several decades? While the *process* of science is sound, the average scientifically minded person is so far away from the actual scientists that any proposing of science is basically faith and/or an appeal to authority.

Science has seen by commoners (yes, us) is effectively a faith. A faith based on the principles of science, but with no real evidence.

And before someone is like "muh peer-reviewed studies" look at reproducibility of those studies and get back to me.

>>724558089
> he thinks basic physics is dumb

>>724558315
That just seems like way too much horse shit to wade through for an explanation tho

>>724551497
Yeah, sure. And when we travel to the edge of the world, we fall into the void. Retard xD

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>>724551497

>>724558440
no its pretty simple actually , you just have to actually use your brain , did you do primary school maths?

>>724551497
>OP believes Earth is flat
> posts image to prove
> image shows Earth is flat, but the sun and moon are a sphere
Kek

>>724551497
If the Earth was flat and the Sun hovered above it and moved in a great circle around the N pole, you would see a difference from reality in motion most marked at times of rise and set. Place yourself on the equator during the equinox. At rise, the Sun would appear somehow and from north of the equator (left), with slow movement towards you (foreshortened) and southward (right, as it follows its circular path). Its horizontal motion diminshes over the course of the morning as its direction loses an X-component. As it reaches overhead (Noon) it would be moving most quickly and almost straight east-west. After Noon it would appear to slow down and begin its drift right (north), and farther along it loses the vertical movement (yet never set) while gaining the drift to the right and magically disappearing.

That of course, is not what we see at the equator at an equinox. The Sun rises due east, transits straight up, and sets due west all at a constant angular speed all along its path, which is apparently straight up, over, and down, because in this geometry you (not a distant pole) are at the center of a circle it appears to trace.

>>724551497
Boats.

honestly OP stop trying to convince people the earth is flat, it doesnt work. you cant wake people up to something like this. imagine if you were sleeping and someone comes up to you and starts yelling in your ear to wake up, theyll just get pissed and try going to sleep again. you have to let them open their eyes themselves. some people will never wake up until the media shows them the truth.

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I'm sorry but all these pictures are wrong. Everyone know that the world is supported on the backs of four elephants that are riding on top of a giant turtle. Look Here's the picture. Totally legit.

FAKE NEWS

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>>724551497
there's nothing wrong with being convinced the earth is flat.
you can spend all your life in some sandnigger country, doing small measures, without noticing.
in fact, this worked pretty well for centuries.
it's just that understanding the earth is a sphere is more accurate

>>724558483
>retard
>xD

i wonder how many shills are in this thread

>>724558384
it would've been nice if you'd ever learnt some basic physics, yes.

Instead of whatever pidgin cargo cult interpretation of basic physics your insane ideas of "conservation of energy" meaning that objects would "fall to the ground"

If that were the case, why wouldn't it fall sideways? Or fall upwards? In a spiral?
or more accurately, why doesn't it float, because after all, Newton's first law states: an object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.

So I hold the object stationary, I let go, and it should stay there. stationary.

But it doesn't, does it?
it falls downwards, at 9.8ms/s. Due to an external force: gravitational constant.

But lets not get ahead of ourselves. Gravity's only been recognised as one of the constants by Newtonian Physics for the last 350 years. The flat earthers are unable to agree on far simpler things.

Like the distance to the sun - something which has been known for about 2000 years.
flat earthers cant provide an accurate map of the world, or explain distances in the southern hemisphere.
Flat earthers cant explain why things disappear over the horizon, which has been known for, oh, about 10,000 years.

Flat earthers cant explain basic astronomy or geography, without it being a "conspiracy".
your utter scientific illiteracy when it comes to gravity isn't even one of the major points your ideas are laughable at.

>>724551497
No one can convince a retard.

>>724558356
I agree with you that there might be scientific research that can HARDLY ever be verified by the normal of the world, and I myself have never verified with my own eyes: (Except for a few trans-Pacific and Atlantic flights and working in NA border defenses which would mean the Russians HAVE to be north AND to the east(and west)).
But in this day and age, it's relatively easy to get ANYTHING in orbit or at east into the stratosphere-thermosphere. Why have these flat-earth theorist not collaborated any research or any type of physical evidence? You could get an over global view with ONLY 10-15 weather balloons and cameras,probably even less. Or just TRY to get the edge on camera with ONE. It's not something that is financially unavailable to ANYONE.

Bottom line it would be SO easy to prove, yet no one does it. Why?

Flat-Earth posts could be made by:
1) Joker /b/tards trolling,
2) Someone devoutly reading and taking a literal translation of the Bible,
3) Someone genuinely functionally idiotic and/or delusionally paranoid,
4) Probers testing for responses with calm intelligence, patience, and refutation of the nonsense with irrefutable knowledge and clarity of thought.

outer space doesnt exist. planets dont exist. satellites dont exist.

>>724551497
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream

>>724559076
5) Someone who knows the truth

>>724558281
Stfu your a neckbeard

>>724551497
The farther you go from the equator, the farther the known constellations go towards the horizon, and are replaced by different stars. This would not have happened if the world was flat

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>>724559149
>"truth"

>>724559149
Falls into Categories 2 or 3. I suspect you're 1 though, unless you have some sensible argument.

If the earth was flat, you wouldn't have different times of day on earth.

It would either be day for everyone or night for everyone.

And if you're not a pleb and have traveled the world, you would know this is not true.

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Alright I'll ask the questions that every flat earther either ignores or can't answer...

How do we have seasons then? Longer days of summer/shorter in winter...does the sun just decide to move all on it's own?

Why? Why would they tell us it's round? There has to be some kind of financial/political/social gain from lying to the public...which there isn't, cause they don't...

How can every man/woman that has been to space lie? (And maintain that lie) with whistleblowers like assange and snowden around somebody would have said something by now..

>>724559269
nah m8 5) if you believe the earth is moving then you dont trust your senses

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>>724551497
OP is a faggot

convince me otherwise
protip; u cant

>>724558356
Somebody's been watching It's Always Sunny.

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The common consensus is that the earth is a sphere, YOU are claiming otherwise...therefore burden of proof falls on you.

>>724559447
See... you're not actually providing anything to support your position. You're attempt to denigrate simply means you don't have anything that can pass muster. That's troll behavior.

Here's the deal: there are two types of Flat Earthers: trolls, and literal Bible interpreters. Somewhat surprisingly, we usually encounter the latter on 4Chan, and they post almost every day. They have the freedom to make shit up (lie) because truth and understanding are not their goals, and they end the arguments with "prove me wrong." This nefariously places the onus on you to spend your precious life's time to provide information already available that they haven't and won't consider. By disavowing any science or proofs put forward and continuing to make shit up, they "win" by eroding your patience. It is simply impossible to keep up with having to explain away the barrage of the violations of the most basic principles of geometry, math, science, and logic. They aren't interested in critical thinking or putting in the requisite effort to do the science. They regularly refuse to respond when they can't fabricate anything that would pass even their own red-faced test. They are blind to 3D visualization. They concentrate on believing what their leaders tell them while ironically calling you a "sheeple," and will not allow any sense to mar their fractured perception of the universe. They believe they are right, and they want you to become as stupid as they. There is simply no arguing. Like trying to paint over mud, you just end up with a dirty brush.

>>724559354
1. Same way we can have seasons with heliocentrism. Because forces we don't fully understand like fucking gravity.
2. Billions of tax payer dollars that they can keep the majority of by creating shitty hoaxes that don't cost too much. Also bragging rights.
3. Lots of money. Or you die.

>>724551497
You can see the horizon isn't straight. On any given location. That's plenty of proof.

>>724559617
>Because forces we don't fully understand like fucking gravity.
Complete and utter nonsense, Gravity has *nothing* to do with seasons, and there is even a better (but still lame) explanation for flat-Earth seasons. The fact that you don't quote that tells me you're a simple, low-level troll.

>>724559354
The sun moves in a spiral over the Earth, going from closer to the north pole then towards Antartica and then back to the North pole. Say you live in Australia and the sun is closer to the north pole, it's winter. and the sun slowly spirals towards you in goes into spring, then summer. As it goes back to the middle it goes to autumn and then the cycle repeats.

Flat Earth proves creationism. NASA takes millions of taxpayers money every year and give us cgi pictures of the earth and other fraudulent content. They control the masses because since they dont believe in a creator they think that life has no meaning and so their actions wont really matter in the long run.

Most astronauts are freemasons. NASA was founded upon Nazi scientists after WWII. Most people in the media or TV are reading scripts and their controllers only allow them to expose certain information.

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the earth is FLAT n nasa,now,soros,etc, all want the SHEEPLE to believe in cgi,fake pics,etc to control ur MIND. try to repent,read the gospel, educate urself, GOOGLE it. btw iam not the poster of this thread, how do u even thumb up on this site, anyway this is TRUTH and u r in DENIAL. do NOT be a product of SATAN

>>724559527
well no bc all your senses tell you that the earth is flat and not moving, yet you trust the government over yourself. btw the word government translates to mind control. govern=control, ment=mind

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>>724559617
That's your answers? Yeah ok you are retarded, and a troll. I'll give you partial credit for getting me to post in your douche thread.

>they want snowden and assamge dead..they both still talked (and are still alive)

>>724559836

Read this. You will see you're wrong. I understand that scares the willies out of you.
>>724558673

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>thinking the earth is flat
TOP KEK

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>>724559920
>by believing the earth is a sphere they're controlling my mind

Got the tinfoil hat on a bit tight there chum.

>>724560038
Continuing south during an equinox, a flat-Earther would still see the Sun appear from the NE, approach but curve left to due north at Noon, then continue left and away to the NW, fading away. In reality, the Sun still rises in the E, moves up and left to north at Noon, and then set again in the W. This motion (also traced by the stars at night) clearly shows there is an axis of rotation that rises up from the southern horizon and extending up and way south to project a south celestial pole on the sky. A Sun (and stars) moving around a disk cannot behave like it is revolving around two poles simultaneously.

>>724559836
>The sun moves in a spiral over the Earth,
and your evidence for this is....?

>Flat Earth proves creationism. NASA takes millions of taxpayers money every year and give us cgi pictures of the earth and other fraudulent content.

The earth was proven to be round by Erasothenes roughly 2,100 years before NASA existed.
In fact, it was proven before christianity existed.....

>Most astronauts are freemasons.

freemasonry, that well-known soviet society? Yuri Gagarin and co were all masons? Reaaaaaaally?

>>724551497
>It's your head that is flat.
>convince me otherwise,,
>protip; u cant.

Is op that one Mexican dude from rehab, Eric?

>>724551497
I can't, it is true. However, we are actually a simulation within a simulation, so 3d geometry doesn't even matter. I win.

>>724560038
yeah didnt really understand that at all, but if you live on a spinning ball then at the equator you're moving at 1000 miles per hour while at the north pole you're not moving at all, and yet there is no noticeable difference

>>724551497
>>>724551632
>Conservation of energy. It would take force of some kind to hold objects in the air.

Only if there's a force pulling the object down... Like gravity.

>When an object isn't supported or held there is no energy to keep it in place

Something with 0 acceleration would simply sit in the air, the only reason anything moves is because of forces like gravity. You appear to be assuming a constant downward force but neglecting to call it gravity.

I know y'all will bitch about me being triggered but honestly if I can make a single person less retarded it's worth it.

>>724560119
>The earth was proven to be round by Erasothenes roughly 2,100 years before NASA existed.
In fact, it was proven before christianity existed.....
how do we know that... for all we know the people who control education can FABRICATE IT like they do with cgi

>The sun moves in a spiral over the Earth,
u haven't proven otherwise

>Most astronauts are freemasons.
google it then

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>>724560119
His evidence is this pseudoscience bullshit theory that says our solar system moves like pic related

>>724551497
>protip; u cant

Burden of proof is on whomever makes the assertion.

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>>724560277
But even in this theory the planets are spheres Kek

>>724554127
fucking awesome

>>724560325
burden of proof is irrelevant because we all live in a simulation so free will does not exist anymore.

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>>724551497

https://youtu.be/H5iJisdpriY

>>724551497
But op the burden of proof is on you

>>724560394
well, that is a gif of how the heliocentric system works

>>724551497
Music video that proves OP is right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3rxI7qGRM

OP Here..

this is why i posted this.. i personally know better, and the earth definitly isnt flat from what ive experienced.
i just wanted to test and observe people's responses..

lold at all the actual flat earth believers.

But thanks for all the scientific and biological discussions sofar. love it

>>724560447
Retard.

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someone said spiderman thread?

>>724551902

>>724560653
once you clear your mind of the burden of proof you will be able to understand deeper concepts like the planet erath

>>724551497
The horizon.

>If the earth was flat you would be able to see the entire planet from a high enough point.

>>724560258
Think of a transparent Daytona speedway track suspended above your head, and you're directly under it (and the cars are going around the opposite way). That's a very similar geometry. You see the cars coming, passing overhead, and going off again. This is the same motion you would see for the Sun and Moon as described in a flat Earth.

Not feeling it? That's true, because:
1) the motion is steady - it's not like you're on a train or plane, where there are tiny (or not so tiny) jostles don't exist to constantly remind you of this indomitable motion.
2) The Earth is huge, and at surface this 1,000 mph does not provide a human-detectable difference in gravity. It does however affect very large objects, such as hurricanes. I can get into that if you wish.

>>724551497
why dont you just take a trip around the world. and find out. best case scenario, you fall off the edge and kill yourself.

The earth is flat... and hollow too

>>724560564
Category 4. Kudos.
>>724559076

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>>724551688
And 1 half hour sitcom would last 2 and a half hours on flat Earth

>>724560933
i dunno why i laughed so much at this..

>>724560265
> for all we know the people who control education can FABRICATE IT like they do with cgi


OK. here's a simple experiment then.

I, anon anonson, am in the north of scotland. 57.4778° N to be exact.

the sun here is at this exact moment is about 18.9 degrees above the horizon.

I would encourage three or four other anons around the world to go to a window, set up a right angled object, and measure the length of the shadow. use basic pythagorean maths to calculate the angle.

with more than 3 measurements, we can collaborate in real-time here, and demonstrate that the angle difference can only be explained by a curved earth to a distant star

>>724557946
Actually, without energy the object would stay floating without gravity.

>Gravity is the synchronization of differential vibrations in atoms.

>>724551902
Shit made me giggle my dude coochie to smithereens

If the earth is flat then why has there never been a picture of it?

>Because the earth is a sphere, and there is live feeds from ISS showing this.

>>724552390
Witchcraft

>>724560807
wow someone who isnt mean. thank you. and yeah i see what you mean, though i guess i havent spent anentire day seeing if the sun moves faster when it's directing over me compared to near the horizon. and i guess the second half of your comment is pretty much the theory of relativity (mind the word theory) i guess truly it boils down to what you choose to believe as there are arguments on each side for everything pretty much. but anyway i appreciated your calmness

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>>724551497
If the world is flat then OP isn't a fag.

Obviously, OP is a fag.

I think I've made my point.

>>724551497
If the earth is flat then reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep.

>>724559508
Never seen it

>>724561014
wow the closer people are to an object the greater the angle is wow thanks

>>724561123
nasa=nazi

>>724561345
What about the rest of the world? And it only takes a high altitude weather balloon to see the curvature of space.

>>724561326
Translation:

>I have absolutely no understanding of mathematics, geometry, geography or basic science, but I'm going to try to convince people that my barely literate rambling is more valuable than actual scientific observation.

>>724558356
The computer you're typing on right now is evidence of the effectiveness of the scientific method.

Fair point that some faith is involved, but it's not the same as religion where the whole thing is faith-based without a shred of reproducible evidence...other than "feelings".

Seasons

>buy gyroscope
>put gyroscope in car
>turn on gyroscope
>drive quite far
>if gyroscope is at the same angle as it was in the beginning, the earth is flat.
>if gyroscope is at a different angle, earth is round

Try this next time you go on vacation. Oh right, i forgot you have no job and cant go on vacation. Die stupid then.

>>724551902
/thread

>>724561491
>The computer you're typing on right now is evidence of the effectiveness of the scientific method.

As it applies to electronics, yes.

Im not even saying that the scientific method is bad. It's not at all. I am saying that we're so far removed from it's findings in most cases that we're closer to faith than science. This is especially true in astrophysics.

>>724551902
Honestly I was trying to troll from the flat-earth perspective but this is the perfect counter-argument.

>>724561345
Low-level troll.

Well there goes another flat earther thread, only ones left now are the trolls that don't know when to quit. It is fun to hear some of the answers these idiots come up with...they still can't answer the hard ones though. Go start a Trump hate or wwyd thread next time you're looking for guaranteed replies boys.

>>724561215
Well... not relativity. I don't pretend to understand relativity. Newtonian physics covers it very well.

So if not speed, there is also size. If it were a "close" Sun and Moon passing overhead, there would be an obvious change in the apparent sizes of the objects as they approach, pass overhead, and head off again. Again, this is not what we see. The Sun and Moon stay the same angular size throughout their pass. You can experiment and prove this yourself by taking photos of them during rise, then again five or six hours later when they are at their highest, and maybe again as they set, just for added data. Measure their sizes in the photos. They're the same.

Alas, I have to go to work. Bye!

>>724561978
>closer to faith than science..

Yeah I'm sure all of these scientists rely on their faith rather than observation,experimentation and physics.

>>724551497
This is a troll thread.

convince me otherwise,,
protip; u cant.

>>724558695
Great answer lol

>>724551497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw30CgaXiQw

>>724558789
But how do the elephants eat? Would they die of old age?