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Ask a successful heroin addict anything.

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Ask a successful heroin addict anything.
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>>724509051
>ruined health
>successful
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timestamps or death
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>>724509051
ever tried to quit
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>>724509114
/thread
smoke weed op you skinny white fuck
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How are you successful. Like do you mean you're high-functioning?
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>>724509051
>"a successful heroin addict"

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Define successful?
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>>724509331
not dead yet
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>>724509331
Don't heroin addicts measure their success by how fast they manage to anhero?
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>>724509370
"I'm a succesful terminal cancer patient"
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>>724509331
I do high level Gov contract work.
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>>724509051
>successful heroin addict

Yeah right opiates are shit tier
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One of my friends from work thought he was a successful heroin addict too, and by all means, anyone who didn't know about his habit, wouldn't have guessed.
I have even tasted the end of the dragon myself, and the sugar is sweet, but 3 months ago, he was sold fentanyl instead of heroin, and overdosed in his car. I miss my friend, and no matter how high functioning, or well adjusted you think you are on heroin, you will eventually fuck up.

How do you know you will stay well adjusted forever?

I miss my friend.
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>>724509508
good for you babe
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>>724509051
fucking clean your life
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>>724509527
aka army corps of engineers and you're filling hesco barriers with a shovel

kk dud
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>>724509051
that insulin syringe
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>>724509051
>successful
>heroin addict
Pick one faggot
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>successful
>iphone 4 charger
you sure bud?
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Just started, done it probably 30 times now, once for 2 weeks straight now it's just like once a day for a few days, then a few days off, then once a day, few days off, kinda deal. Out of the 30 about 10 of them were from shooting up. I felt withdrawals after the two week bender but I've been pretty much fine since then. I kinda crave it, and want some tonight, but it's not too hard to say no. I could be fine for days I think. My question is; is this how it all starts?
>can't shoot myself up, no idea how
>woke up this morning and smoked a point almost instantly just bc I had it
>seems like if I have it I do it
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>>724509677
I'm not a retard like your friend must have been, so I think I'll be okay.
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>>724509222
here faggot
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>>724509527
How long have you been using?

Chase or gun?

How much is your daily intake? (cash and amount of H)

Do you get high at work?
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>>724509051
You've successfully become addicted to heroin. Big fucking deal. I hope you die soon.
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>>724509222
checked
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>>724509976
THIS IS NOT OP, IM OP... FUCKING STOP FAGGOT.....
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>>724509973
That is EXACLTY how is starts.
Take it from a recovering addict, a $10 a day habit can very quickly turn into pawning your wife's engagement ring for a hit.

If you can get through the withdrawal symptoms now, do it. Not worth fucking your life away down that path.

I still smoke some now time to time, but it kills me not to touch that needle. I had to move away from easy access to needles just to quit using.
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No one in the history of man kind has ever been a successful heroin addict.
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>>724510089
Yes, I get "high" at work, I've been using opiates since I was 18ish, I'm now 28. I switched to heroin about two years ago. Because it's cheaper.

I'm not sure what you mean by chase or gun?

the reason I quoted high up there, is while don't get me wrong i feel the shit and it feels awesome, I don't get all nodded out, high, and non functional. My tolerance to opiates is astronomical. What I do as a pick me up, would kill probably everyone in this thread, they did it.

I do about a gram a day, I honestly don't spend that much on it, because I know other people that want it, so i get it for them, and my dealer gives me x amount of bags for getting rid of y amount of bags. I might spend 50-60 a week, depending on how slow my end of the business is
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Government contractor my ass, more like chef at Wendy's. The surroundings in that picture looks like a dilapidated trailer. You probably scrape those burnt scraps on your 10$ coffee table during desperate times. Your "functioning" status won't last long, and in no time at all you won't be able to get out of bed unless your dealer picks up the phone. My functioning status lasted 3 years before shit hit the fan but I was doing scripts rather than junk.
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>>724509051
You know where this will end OP.
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>>724510152
My tolerance is way to high, so highly unlikely, plus even though it's high. I do a test shot, from each new batch.
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>>724509051
its not hard to successfully be addicted to something
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hell yeah OP, heroin is fucking amazing. I get out of the army in 20 days and im making sure my guy has an 8ball ready for me when i get back home.

how long you been using? and how many times have you over dosed
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>>724509973
DUDE YOU ARE NOT OP,

you fuckers are ruining my thread, i don't care if you state your fucking story, but shit at least say "IM NOT OP IM A BIGGER FAGGOT THAT LIKES BIGGER DICKS"
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As an irregular heroin user, how do you deal with teh constipation?
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>>724510711
I'm not going to me up my good job like you did. Pills are worse than heroin.
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>>724509973
OP AGAIN, LOLOLOL pussy cant shoot himself up. LOLOLOL im dying over here....no really... get me some narcan...jk
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>>724510846
You can have the constitution of a fucking rhino. All you need is a bag from a batch with alittle too much fentynal to kill you, congrats on your advanced thinking.
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>>724510699
>chase or gun

Sorry, UK fag.

Chase = smoke

Gun = needle
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>>724511027
I usually just eat a big bowl of bran flakes before shooting up.
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>>724510966
Army smart I can see.
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>>724510699
>not an addict
>I switched to heroin about two years ago. Because it's cheaper.
sounds like an addict
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Wilmington, DE is an interesting place
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJDJs9dumZI
do you like this song brother
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>>724510711
Top kek, believe what you want, they are desperate for computer ppl right now, ever since the DNC shit, and Podesta. Anyone that can get a sec clearance, they will fucking take. i dont really work for the gov, i work for a company that the gov highers. you know hwo contracts work right? Also fag quit telling me how long ill function, im 10 years into this opiate games, 2 years into heroin, I was on oxycodone/opana/fent/ literally any of the strong ones. so seriously quit telling me wtf is gonna happen, Im a fucking veteran to this shit..
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>>724511086
Fuck off. I'll let Jesus take the wheel.
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>>724511540
STOP PRETENDING YOU'RE ME FAGGOT
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Shooting up dick, possible?
effects?
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>>724511540
sounds like you are already circling the drain mate.
>highers
>hwo
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>>724511086
wanna hear a story? I used to get fent patches a lot of them. I would put on two 75mcg patches and smoke 2 100mcg in about a 6 hour period... id take the 75s off the next morning.

also i had surgery last summer, it took 400mcg of fent to knock my ass out and i only weigh 135. I also woke up in so much pain, i got 16 mg hydromorphone shot, about an hour later, i drove my self home, because my mom had no clue where the fuck we were... Im not saying im invincible, im saying my chances of dying are pretty fucking slim
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>>724509051
Whats your fastest cook up time?
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>>724511136
...you dont see the insulin needle as clear as fucking day?
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how did you get into heroin like give us the story of the events that happened to bring you down this path
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I was like you. I did lots of different drugs and none had power over me. I could go as hard as I wanted, get bored, and leave it forever. Then I started doing opiates as a way to sleep and to kill pain. It was fun at first. I considered the times I had with my dope friends as some of the best. I was doing it when I wanted and stopping when I wanted. One day I went on a 2 night vacation with my gf. No big deal, a nice time away from home! I spent all day enjoying myself and that evening 36 hours later I was screaming in a shower and thrashing my arms. Oh I must have been sick with the flu I thought. I still have multiple cars, all my possessions, I'm fine! 2 years later I had no vehicles of my own, no real home, sold all my things, and was in the midst of a constant psychosis. I needed 200 dollars a day at my worst. Even my girlfriend of 6 years who stuck with my through it all and whom I terrorized couldn't imagine how much I needed just to be okay. Every 4-5 hours it was time for a 4-5 bag shot. I'm nearly two years clean now and back to racing open wheel, drag, and just bought another sport bike as a toy. You can't control it. No one can. Mark my words. You can't.
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Do u take that drug for opioid constipation?
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>>724511144
thanks asshole
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>>724511701
Isn't H meant to make you chill? Kek
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>>724511581
Cool man!
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>>724511221
Um, I never said i wasnt an addict, in fact im pretty sure my OP says addict in it..................? are you fucking retarded???
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>>724509051
I'm with ya. I typically use opana 40s IV. Ran out of money and only had meth left yesterday. Shot it all night and finally got my hands on some norcos. They were 7.5/750. I've ate 8 pills in the past 9 hours. I think I done killed myself lmao
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>>724509051
>successful
>needs drugs
Are you a cat person or a dog person?
Also can i have your dealers number?
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>>724511867
Sorry, autcorrect. Also my bad, I had no clue this a grammar board. I will do much better from now on Porfessor Faggot.
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>>724511701
Um, I am OP. I'm not trying to be anyone else but OP......
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This is Al. He od on the pot. I sad.
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>>724512496
I'm OP. Stop.
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>>724512047
By the way I never was hospitalized for an OD despite going unconscious for hours uncountable times. Once I did a two bag shot compared to my normal 5, cleaned up my works, put everything away, and the next thing I remember is my girlfriend on top of me screaming and hitting me. I had turned blue and was basically dead. She said she called the emts and I staggered up the stairs, ran down the street as the police were roaring up and hid in the woods while drifting in and out of consciousness. It can come that quick. Be careful, I can't talk any of you out if it. You make your own decisions, no matter how smart you are it's not about intelligence. It changes your brain chemistry and will make even a genius irrational. Stay safe.
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>>724512496
No anon. I am in fact op and I'd appreciate it if you'd quit.
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>>724511916
I don't think I've ever timed it. I would say the quickest though would be. Right around 3-3.5 minutes. From cook to pulling needle out of my arm.
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So do you use clean needles? Do you sterilize the site before injecting? What do you use to mix up the H?
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>>724512496
>XD im pretending to be you xd isn't that funny
Fuck off.
>>724512586
>>724512637
you guys too. Go shitpost somewhere else
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>>724509944
kekd and checkd
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Does heroin give more tang to my hole?
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>>724512342
Wait, what country are you in? U.S. made all acetamenophen containing opioid compounds limited to 325mg apap. And I used to eat 10-15 10/325 percocets in one handful. For months at a time, you'll be ok. For now, maybe years from now, you'll be fucked.
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What movies do u like to watch after shooting up?
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>>724513182
holy fuk
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>>724512739
Also what is your plan when you inject a shit-ton of carfentanyl into your veins and overdose? Do you always inject with someone supervising?
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>>724512496
ok this person ^ is OP (me)
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>>724509114
this
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>>724512739
I will answer both your posts here, needles are harder to get out here, they want you to have a insulin script. as you can see my needle is old af, but i never share if thats what youre asking. an no im mostly alone. but i always do a tiny test shot, when its new batchest coming. but my supplier is pretty consistant with his shit.
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I never tried the heroins. is it like a field mouse sleeping under my balls?
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>>724509944
>iphon
You know what a fucking tie off is??? Ya im so gonna use a new phones charger for that and break it (been there done that) so old ass phones charger it is...... do you into logic?
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>>724509051
Did opiates for 17ish years thought I was and was pretty high functioning addict which I guess just means ovoid hold a job.then got endocarditis from bacteria infected dope or dirty needles had to have 2 open heart surgeries in which one heart valve was repaired and 2 were replaced. I suggest a different path for op but I been where he is and I know people aren't gonna quit till they are ready I just hope you don't totally ruin your health like I did. In ten or so years the replaced valves will have to be replaced again which will probably be the death of me because no insurance. Oh yeah hep-c too somehow even though I never really shared needles.
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Why haven't you just Over doesed yet. Fucking piece of trash.
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>>724509677
your friend was inadvertently poisoned. don't blame his heroin addiction
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I'm Doing another shot, if you faggots wanna like see that, ill post some pics..
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>>724509051
.
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>>724509051
If you were to kill yourself, would you suggest heroin OD?
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>>724514288
>hep c some how
>even though i never REALLY shared needles

ya anon, im fucking clueless to how you got it.....
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>>724513162
Shitty for liver but I been there and done that
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>>724514843
OMG yes, I've tried it, sadly my tolerance is way to high to do it, I would need a shit ton, probably 2 grams in a shot, if not more.

but if you have no tolerance to opiates at all.. go get like a half gram, just to be sure. That's roughly 500mg. You will die smiling
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>>724515168
Well I only ever used a bleached used rig that was my brothers and he is negative. I suspect a roommate might have used a cooker of mine even though he knows how careful I was and wouldn't want them too they always were careless and kind of
thought I was paranoid or something.or I might have gotten it from sharing snorting straws cause I didn't realize there was risk there. BTW how's the view from your high horse?
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No such thing as successful addict just functioning addict

Now stfu get off /b/ and buy my dope.

I need to reup shut up make me rich,
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>>724509677
sorry about your friend, friendo.

Maybe I won't try heroin after all.
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>>724516159
See>>724514288
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>>724509051
How did you start bangin?
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>>724510058
get a new rig, jesus dude that shit has been used atleast 20 times.
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>>724514666
Make a webm satan
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>>724510058
what's the nsa thing?
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>>724515762
Well I am OP, so I am high on a really nice dragon. But it's a p. good view, and sorry if you took that personal. I'm just an asshole all around. Didn't mean any harm by it. And ya it was probably the cooker thing, or a cotton. As long as every part of that rig, that gets blood in it, came into contact with bleach for 30+ seconds. It killed everything, I bleach my own needles. for infection reasonings. I would overkill it though, and would leave bleach in the chamber over night. and ontop of that i stuck it in a glass of bleach.

and do you have any evidence for sorthing straws? I mean I'm open minded and am willing to change it. But I just don't see that/ at all.
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>>724513182
thats not H thats flakka
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>>724510699
Hospitals, institutions or death is where you're headed. It's only a matter of time before you start shooting up in your thigh and neck. And how about them withdrawls? Fun amirite?
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>>724516956
Stuff bitch and make rich,

Buy my bundles.


Ur no better then the fools who smoke rock.
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how do you shoot heroin? also how do you know how much to take? I hear you have to mix it with some acid or base is this true? post pictures of your tracks on veins
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>>724515837
Ok. Mr. Heroin dealer, I want you to explain to me. Weight ratios, for cutting heroin. Also I want you to explain to me, what its chemical name is. And what agent you use to mask the two hyrdroxyl groups, and what those two are originally labled. More to come, AND DON"T FUCKING GOOGLE. I WILL KNOW --OP
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>>724516749
I picked up a needle, and a spoon. and broke off a cig butt, cut off a piece. put the dop in the spoon heated it up, wet the cotton. added it to the spoon,drew it up. tied off. and boom like a pro that'd been doing for years already. and every since that day ive been in love,
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im scared of needles so fuck heroin
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>>724510396
>>724510396
Someone dosent Jazz
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>>724518190
I'm not a h dealer I know a lot thru erowid n had some friends who moved.


I neva moved dat just lesser drugs,

I'm just sayin ur addiction is my $$


Still think it's fuked up it's gettin cut with fentanyl since majority fuk up da cut.
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>>724509051


I get 90x1 MG of xanax a month and 120x10 hydrocodone a month. I hear when mixed together it feels like heroin. That true?

>i always take mine together with some booze. it's such a comfy warm feeling
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>>724519009
Same. I smoked heroin, but was too afraid of needles to shoot up. If hadn't gotten sober I'd probably would've gotten rid of that fear pretty quickly.
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>>724518839

>cig butt

a) you either mean cig filter or you're totally retarded beyond all comprehension

b) if you did mean cig filter, you're only standard junky retarded. cigarette filters, in addition to being far more likely then non-sterile cotton to cause cotton fever (use sterile cotton to prevent that entirely), cig filters contain fiberglass that greatly accelerates damage to your veins
and yes that should matter to junkies, because it sucks when you literally run out of veins.
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how many friends have you lost from overdose?
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>>724509114
/thread
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>>724518190
TIck Tock, Mr "Dealer" lol when some one you want as a customer knows way more about the product than you do, pretty funny. continue hiding, or im gonna come answer everything for you.Cause im nice, and like chem
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>>724519886
I'm

>>724519277


I told u I don't move h my info mostly comes from erowid I have friends who can put me on h game,

But I rather be on the other games.
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>>724512136
Fuck off. I'll let Jesus take the wheel.
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>>724519886

You're deluded if you think anyone beyond the chemists in origin countries extracting it from opium know jack shit about it's chemistry

cuts and percentage cut have ZERO consistency. there's no answer to that.

mask the hydroxyl group is a meaningless phrase and you don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not who you addressed the question to though, doubt he knows what hes talking about either.
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>>724520541
Cool man!
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>>724519277
nigger please go

selling weed to highschoolers doesn't make you cool or a drug dealer.
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>>724513999
are they as hard to get as those trips?
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>>724509051
why you still using that iphone4 cable
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>>724509527
>I do high level Gov contract work.
>no drug testing

ok buddy
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>>724520575
I do I just don't fuck with h I was just trollin op cuz there's no such thing as successful only functioning.

And should just stop,posting and just keep makin his dealer rich.
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>>724513999

Needles aren't hard to get anywhere, see there's this magic thing called the internet.
You can have them shipped anywhere.
Not even darknet markets, because it's legal and they're sold by legit businesses out in the open on the clearnet.
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>>724515837
where you live at fam?
im in NJ, ill be happy to buy some if its fire
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>>724520733
I'm talkin more then weed cracka I just don't wanna put myself out like dat.

And I ain't tryna be cool I'm just bout my money
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>>724520916

anyone who brags about what they learned on erowid doesn't have a clue, so just stop it.

that's like saying 'i know programming, i read all about in in BASIC For Dummies'
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>>724509051
who knows you're an addict?
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>>724519385
took me about 3 years of sniffing before i got very unafraid of needles.
its been 8 years since then, ive sniffed maybe 3 bags in that time. no going back once you start banging it.
if i can't spike it, i don't like it
i'd shoot weed if i could
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>>724521177
ON ERROR GO TO FuckYourMom(you as HumanWithMom)
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>>724521177
Dats just the science yo, I have friends dat can put me on game.

Like I said I'm good in the other games
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>>724513999
ive never shared a needle and somehow ive got hep c, so watch out
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>>724509677
I was a willing fentanyl user for a few months. Death is really just part of the experience, it's something you come to accept. There were many nights where I didn't think I would wake up, and every day I did wake up was a blessing.
Fentanyl really is a shit drug, and I can't imagine people accidentally using it. Even when I was willingly using it I felt so close to death, the margin for error so much higher than any other opiate.
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>>724521151
dry snitchin

this is an anonymous board. no white vans are gonna pull up to your grandma's cus you told a bunch of fat weebs you sell a quarter a week. Nickel and dime shit.
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>>724514050
nailed it
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>>724514666
post webm satan
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>>724521393

no you're not. you've said absolutely nothing that indicates that if you are in fact a drug dealer, that you're anything other than average, and the only thing that probably saves you from 'bad' is the legions of retarded street niggers
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>>724514843
ive od'd twice, it is fucking beautiful. you get a rush and feel euphoric (not in a neckbeard way) and then you just go to sleep and die.

unfortunately paramedics brought me back. i wish they hadnt
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>>724513999
you're going to get a bacterial infection in your lungs, if you don't use a clean rig every time. Goddammit, do your research you make heroin addicts look so stupid
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>>724515168
same thing happened to me. i have no clue how i got it. the doctor told me you cant get it from reusing the same set over and over again, but i dont believe him because that is the only way i couldve gotten it.
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>>724521289
Thank you for reinforcing my fear of needles
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>>724510089
using and selling, smart
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>>724516753
i use mine until they break. ive gone weeks before
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>>724519433
well, you have to be dumb af, if you've never heard of the end of a cig being called the butt. And also I would of hoped your sense of fucking logic was intact, And you'd release I meant NOT FUCKING USED. Again thought we need to examine your logic and comprehension skills. Did it say anywhere in there about that being my go to filter? didnt think so. And sorry but I've been in a pinch plenty of time, and had to resort back to, and. If you arent fucking retarded and go in on an angle into the cotton, none will suck up into the rig, this no cotton fever....Yes I agree about the fiberglass. but a few uses, you're golden pony boy.
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>>724517358
where you live fam? come to NJ and you might have a new custy
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>>724521696
Take a lesson from Kurt Cobain
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>>724521510
Yeh but who knows

Alright

Pills
Liquid morph
Weed
Shrooms
Coke

>>724521667
Because I don't want u to indicate I did if anything yeh average is the word.

I'm just tryna get across

I serv n u get served.
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>>724522006
I was trollin op I neva touched h but got homies in dat game.
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>>724509051

What is your definition of success?
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>>724522237
What a true homie
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>>724521769

well no that's not really accurate. it depends on other factors... you'd need to have bacterial contamination to begin with, with nutrients to multiply, and leave standing fluid in it

it happens but it's not exactly common. far more likely to happen from cotton shots where the cotton was left in an area that inhibited rapid evaporation.

>>724521940
well i'm not a smoker but no, i haven't ever heard of a clean filter from an unused cigarette called the butt.

and here we go with another fucking moron who thinks cotton fever has fucking anything to do with cotton particles. it's caused by a bacteria that grows on cotton and you'd need a micron filter to stop it from being drawn up.

and in 14 years i've resorted to a cigarette filter ONCE. because every convenience store sells q-tips for $1
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>>724512435
>Porfessor
>autocorrect misspelling words

fucking junkies
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>>724522043
i have a history of mental illness, so id never pass a background check.
plus i do heroin so i clearly have no money for a fucking gun.
feel free to send me one if you want
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>>724522432
>nutrients
which are easily available in a sticky bag of dope, inside that syringe, and on the surface of your skin where you inject. Also, if one bacteria can settle in your lungs, it will multiply. Have fun dying soon. I pray to shit you don't buy from a nigger
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>>724509051
iphone 4 charger
>successful
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>>724522237
do they live in northern nj?
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>>724521769
ive been reusing needles until they break for the last 12 years. my lungs are black as fuck, but no bacterial infection
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>>724522836

yes, that's where the 'it happens' comes from. it's still exceptionally rare. far less likely than OD.
and a lung infection is still far less likely than endocarditis, although i have a hunch that's what you were thinking of.
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>>724522146
This is all educational and no way holds any truth

The stories written here is false blah blah past endeavors.
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>>724522951
Naw.
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>>724522815
Then go jump off a fucking bridge. Even a retard like you could probably figure out how to die without a gun.
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>>724520575
Oh God, Another one of them, sit back boys, OP (A Junkie) is about to schol some random dude on the internet, acting like no one but some fucking sand niggers, or some random colombians/mexicans in a tent in the middle of the jungle in central/south america, know about heroins chemical make up.

Ok well countries that still have it as medicine do also, like in certain parts of europe. It's calleld diamorphine. Here in the U.S. we call it diacetylmorphine. Because like I said previously in morphine they were hydroxyl groups, now in heroin they are acetyl groups. the 3 and 6. Because of the use of acetic anhydride (mainly some others are used), so there is that. but hydroxyl group isnt a meaningless phase. especially when looking at morphine, and wanting to fucking construct it into heroin, it's pretty god damned important you fucking idiot. Im not even remotely done with you, I just need a cig, and dont want this thread to die... Next we will be getting into black tar heroin. and what is used to make it, and the fact that it IS NOT diacetylmorphine but mainly 6mam(6monoacetylmorphine) and why that is. COMING UP ON CHEM WITH A JUNKIE.

BROUGHT TO YOU IN PART BY A FUCKING IDIOT IN A THREAD ON /b/ WHO WANTED TO TALK SHIT LIKE HE KNOWS CHEMISTRY AND IS NOW GETTING FUCKING SCHOOLED
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>>724520754
Fuck dude, I don't know, that's hard to say. Maybe if i print out this post, and when they ask me if i have a script for insulin, ill say no, but i got trips in a 4chan thread.
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>>724520835
Already discussed this, It's a tie off cable.
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>>724523256

'mask the hydroxyl group' *is* absolutely meaningless. hydroxyl group isn't.
acetylation isn't "masking" it.

but by all means, continue telling me things i already know with small mistakes here and there that give away a superficial, internet-learned, understanding of things.
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>>724523256
Not guy who u addressed but I'm the guy who was trollin u .

Everything u said can be read on erowid lol
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>>724523539
Why are you still using an iPhone 4 cable?
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>>724520887
Um, 3 days for heroin, to be out of your system, well the metabolites, in order to actually catch heroin they have like an hour window in your blood, after you do it. 24 hours later it will be 3mam or 6mam. and then 72 hours later, it will be morphine..

OH SHIT SORRY, this belongs in my chem thread where im owning that faggot in a second
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>>724523069
>exceptionally rare
keep telling yourself that. If you keep using dope, it'll kill you somehow
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>>724509051
What is the key to life?
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>>724520996
Ya you clearly don't think about living with out people who check the fucking mail...
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>>724523719

once again the superficial understanding rears its hilarious head.

ONLY heroin metabolizes into 6-mam, which is the metabolite they test for and why its dispositive of heroin use rather than codeine.

heroin decomposes into 6/3 mam far faster than 24h, sorry.
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>>724523778

yes, people have been saying that for 14 years now.

i've reused needles frequently that entire time, hell i frequently combine the little bit of liquid left days later, and have never had a lung infection. or heart infection.

cytokine storm from bacteria (e.g. cotton fever) sure, but that's a 12 hour deal that doesn't cause lasting damange
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>>724523899

sure i do. it's called tracking your package and making sure you're the first person to check the mail on the day its coming.
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>>724522942
for the third time, its a fucking tie off, im not gonna use a new phones charger for a tie off, ive broken to many of them that way...
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do you want to quit?
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>>724523672
Um, I'm sure it can, so can a lot of fucking things, so that means that, some one who knows it learned it form erowid? So if Terry Nichols sat down and started telling you about LSD and its role with seretonin, and then went into the actual synthesis of LSD. You'd laugh at him and say "lol thats on erowid" You see how fucking retarded your logic is????
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>>724524892
Why are you using an iPhone 4 charger?
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>>724525152

Difference is ur just a junkie

Once again shut up make me rich.
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>>724523719
>a second

>while i google some more shit to try to avoid

>>724525152
not who you're talking to but that's the thing-
i, and anyone who really knows what they're doing, absolutely would listen to him, because as anyone who's actually done such a thing knows, there's fine details to synthesizing complex things that actual chemists know, but someone just trying to follow instructions erowid would have their reaction fail.
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>>724523574
youve literally never read any chem books in your life have you? I could show you several papers right now that refer to it as masking, and ya you are correct, there are some that call it acetylation, meaning this. THEY BOT MEAN TURNING THE FUCKING HYDROXYL GROUPS INTO ACETYL GROUPS! god damn your so fucking dumb it's just sad man.
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>>724525447
>>while i google some more shit to try to avoid

sorry not sure how that got cut off
>to avoid looking like a silly internet-learned kid
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>>724523719
omfg yes, thats what i said, within 24 hours, to check for those metabolites, after taht, anything up to 72 hours after is fucking morphine......learn 2 chem you fucking idiot.
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>>724525482

[citation needed]

only a non-native-english speaker could EVER say something as stupid as that.
it's always called acetyation, and substitution reactions are NEVER called 'masking' unless it's a mistake by someone with very poor english.

look, you're better informed than 99% of junkies, that's a good thing. just stop acting like it's 99.999%.
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>>724523674
and the 4th time, IT'S A FUCKING TIE OFF OK, A FUCKING TIE OFF!!!
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>>724523951 read this:
>>724525668

and also to add onto it, ya duh, heroin is wtf we were talking about........also why tf do you care about me so much? and trying to make me look dumb when i completely fucking own you. you can fool some of these idiots here maybe, but not each other. you know im right ...
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>>724525779
Why are you using an iPhone 4 cable? Get with the times fucking pleb
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>>724523674
cuz its something he doesnt care about breaking if he pulls it too tight around his arm.
you dense motherfucker
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>>724526094

you started it.

and i said you made small mistakes that reveal superficial internet-learning, not that you weren't right in general.

and since i'm the one correcting those small mistakes, and you're the one saying stupid shit like the substitution reaction of acetylating morphine into 3,6-diacetylmorphine is "masking".. no, you didn't "own me"

you're smarter than 99% of junkies yes, but not better informed than me, and certainly not college educated in chemistry/psychopharmacology/etc
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>>724526275
Why is he using an iPhone 4 cable?
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What do you think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8f7KDVyrc
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>>724526562
im not sure, why is he using an iPhone 4 cable?
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>>724526145
ok you're trolling me now fucking stop it.


IT'S A FUCKING TIE OFF
IT'S A FUCKING TIE OFF
IT'S A FUCKING TIE OFF
IT'S A FUCKING TIE OFF
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>>724526471
dude even fucking wikipedia (with citations) refers to it as masked, and you being such a science expert knows that wikipedia, is good fro its science and math sections, because there is always that one fucking nerd that edits that shit to be correct.
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>>724510058
>inb4 timestamp should've been on a hundo.

Woulda been cool m9
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>>724527896
well i figured i'd give you fags a chance at maybe one day recieving this dollar. 99% of be wouldn't have a hundo, plus i broke my last hundo earlier. and only have 20's
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>that charger doe
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speaking of wikipedia though, how you guys like my CSS?
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im also running right down the road to get some cigs, if this 404's before i get back, it was fun take it eays and be safe out there.. also dont do heroin, while i function in life, and have no bad effects, and i make pretty good money. i also dont spend my money on H. i spend like a small percentage of my weekly spending money on it, the rest is hustles. if i actually used my money, with the amount i do, id be spedning about 3500 a month.
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>>724526562
>>724526275
>>724523674
>>724509051
yeah right? I only tie off with lightning cables now, way less drug buffer.
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>>724513182
not while but trainspotings a good heroin movie
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>>724531862
op here (im back btw) that movie is so cliche to watch on it though, i also dont like watching movies twice, i have a almost photographic memory, so movies, i seriously remember every scene even years and years later. So it is no fun to rewatch because i know whats going to happen next...
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>>724517064
We say jails, institutions and death in our group, but yeah, this never ends well. Addiction is a chronic, fatal disease. There is no "success" about it, sadly. If it was possible to be "successful" at using, I would still be doing it, but that is impossible.

It works if you work it, die if you don't. :^)
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>>724509973
Yes I thought I had self control and chipped for like 8 years. Towards the end of that I was looking forward to the next session a bit too much, probably had a problem at that point

I got the flu and since H cures everything I had a bit every day to ease the illness and get some sleep. A year later I'm struggling to even stay on Subutex, I wish I was dead tbh
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>>724509051

>Successful heroin addict

Stopped reading there
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>>724509051
Tony Hastings: What we're gonna do?
Bobby Andes: It's a question of how serious you are about seeing dick done.
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torah is the solution
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>>724513736
Are you a fucking Mexican?
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>>724532874
>job
>money
>house
>using for 10 years

Some people aren't fucking stupid with it.
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>>724533450
no, i'm white. why?
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if you're addicted how then are you successful?
it's an oxymoronic to be a "successful addict", wouldn't you say? are you nodding and drooling in your lap, nearly sticking yourself with your needle?
get off that shit.
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>>724509051
i do not doubt that you are successfull in many areas.
But let me warn you anyway. IF life throws you a curveball and you get fired or something like that.
Drugs will seems like a good short term solution,
In other words: you will get fugged if something dosnt go as planned. You are on thin ice mate.
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>>724527449

then why haven't you supplied a link?

you do realize that this basic terminology isn't even something special, and tens of millions of people who took orgo 1 in college would be calling it the wrong term?
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>>724534925
p sure i posted a screen shot........
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>>724535079

well i don't have access to elsevier since i graduated but the abstract sure doesn't use the awkward language the wikipedia article does.
i thought you have all these journal articles to show me that did use that term that way?
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>>724509051
Nice desk, did you steal it from a run down elementary school?
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>>724509051
>successful heroin addict
Um... don't you mean "functional"? Successful implies any heroine addict that can keep getting high.
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but at least i see where you got the term from. random wikipedia editor simplifies by describing that way, guy who learns all his stuff from places like wikipedia and erowid picks up on it and thinks its proper terminology... kinda sounds like the point i was making, no?

when you can tell me what the hive was, i'll start listening to your opinions on drug chemistry
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>>724509051
Why did my best friend turn into a different person and fuck over everyone she knew for herion and her girlfriend?
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>>724536609

because the econonomic consequences of prohibition and the marginalization of users and lack of access to help creates the need for large amounts of money for an issue for which real help is unavailable or undesirable due to the attached stigma, so the desperation leads to behavior that wouldn't be seen in a legal, regulated marketplace like the even more addictive nicotine and just as bad alcohol?
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>>724532708
If there's a cure for addiction, I wouldn't take it. There's no reason to, since I'm happy where I'm at in my sobreity.
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>>724533548
>heroin addict
That's where you're stupid
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>>724536805
But she had us helping her and letting her borrow money and then she turned on all of us. We did try to help her I know I reached out the most and took her to meetings and talked to her every single day. Her parents even let her stay at their house and did everything they could.
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>>724509051
I was asuccessful heroin addict, until I wasnt. Lasted almost 15 years.
If you have enough money and good sources, you can take this shit for ages.
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I think op means they are successfully addicted to heroin
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>>724537420

have to actually want to quit.
and you always need more money when it's illegal.
do you know just how much money it would actually take because tolerance hit the ceiling?
not sure with heroin, but it's not all too different than OC.
OC tolerance tops out around 2400-3000mgs/day for example; that's probably around $800-1600/day of heroin. so unless she had that kind of money, she was still stuggling to stay well, which is where the other bad behavior came from.
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>>724538079
If you can call yourself successful in any way, you are also functioning and therefor you have found you're maintenace dose to which you stick. Taking opioids doesn't mean getting high all day long. There are 80 year old doctors who take diamorphine for 60 years straight without any healthproblems. One could call them functioning and successful
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>>724538625

maintaining like that means being able to afford the dose that you maintain with.
i know what oc's tolerance ceiling is like because i hit it. i had limitless access for 8 years, during which time i graduated from a good university and maintained a good job, had friends who didn't know i used (because i just acted normal, despite needing so much oc just to not be sick that the same dosage would kill 3 non-tolerant people)
one of my many doctors was an old man like that. he walked around his pain management practice always with a max strength actiq lozenge in his mouth (fentanyl lollipop), and the trash cans were full of the used sticks.
crazy old guy got busted giving them to strippers at a club. god bless that guy. eventually they yanked his license, but damn
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I've tried heroin a couple times to know what's up with it. Snorted, I don't mainline. Heroin is useless. It's a dumb physical high that comes and goes and leaves you in a rather shit mood afterwards.

How people get hooked is beyond me. How low your fucking standards should be?
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>>724509051
https://youtu.be/Miv8i-slK2w
Here you go OP. Hope you get help.
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>>724539237
I get what you're saying. I just don't understand why you would aim for the ceiling dose in the first place. (Also didn't know OC had one. I guess there is one for diamorphine but it never was relevant since I don't know anybody who would take his tolerance up there even if he could. ceiling dose is a term I rather link to buprenorphine for example, where you hit that mark pretty fast).

Sure you can higher the dose all the time if you have limitless access but in order to stay functional, thats not necessary.
And of course you have to pay for it but thats what I meant by being successful. If you don't have to worry about money because you have a solid income, you can be on any opioid without anybody noticing. But you know that.

Those kind of doctors are great, I know one myself but due to stricter regulations over the last (lets say 50 years) they're a dying breed. Any med student I know who gets his license nowadays is super responsable and shit. But knowing how hard they worked for it, they better be.
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>>724540144
good for you. If opioids were for you, you would know it by now. Since you don't see their appeal, congrats on never going to get hooked.
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>>724509051
Do you own your flat on Baker St., or are you renting?
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>>724510966
tyfys corporal
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>>724540829

Because nobody takes hard drugs just to feel sober *all the time*. at best, you're taking just enough to maintain to get through the work day or similar. but at some point, you want to get high again. so you get high a few nights, the dose you need to maintain during the day goes up.
even if all you did was maintain, the dose would still go up. eventually, the dose exceeds what you can afford if its below the ceiling.
so basically anyone short of a multimillionaire is going to have trouble after a while.

and yes, the reason there's no good documentation on the ceilings of full agonists is because the dosages are reserved (until recently, anyway) for very few... people with serious illegal access (like, say, someone who bought directly from out the factories back door), a few people with very liberal doctors who will be dead very soon///
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>>724510396
Someone also can't into literature
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>>724509527
Did Trump give you a job?
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>>724512900
Dubs wud indicate yes it would
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degenerate
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Oh man I remember posting almost the exact same thread. And then I overdosed 6 times, wound up in rehab 8 times in the last 6 years, and am now 3 years clean. OP - if you had a narrator narrating your life right now, he'd say "he was not fine"
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>>724542839
Right, have to admit its rather hypothetical. Usually you can't take getting high out of the equation.
Although I disagree with the argument that you have to increase the dose once you found your maintenance dose. Best examples are substitutes. People taking the same amount of methadone over many years (I did). In theory thats applicable to any opioid (as long as we don't talk about pain relief) even though its very unlikely that anbody would follow trough with that kind of consumption pattern.
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>Destroying your blood veins and injecting needles in your dick
>not smoking heroin
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Heroine addict?
I too can only fuck women who save lives.
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You should mix it with coke. It's more fun that way
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>>724509051
>Successful
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