Anyone up for a helicopter ride ppl?

>>724410112
>helicopter ride

wut is?

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>>724410217
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravan_of_Death

trump cuck

>>724410112

old man was getting up in people's faces shouting "Do something!" and eventually one of them did something

oh no shock horror, poor grampaw

>>724410112
Nothing is more cuck than being pro-fascism. I dont care how old you are. Die in a fire.

omg how sad

how do i upvote on 4chan?

>>724411719
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

>>724411609
Non-violence should never be meet with violence. Antifa is more facist than the alt-right.

>>724410112
that ha sot be the most autistic name for a facebook group i've ever seen

>>724410112
That is some funny shit

>>724411901
fuck off /pol/cuck

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>>724411647
considering that antifa groups are the actual fascists, yes, they are cucks, and should go die in a fire.

>>724412175
I don't visit /pol/, fascist.

>>724411901
Yup.
But if you tell them that, they get violent and assault you.
Notice how that only goes down in Cali and NY though?
Try that shit in Texas or Oklahoma and antifa faggots will get shot.

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>>724410112
awe twumpies are twiggered!!

this one pissed his pants!

>>724412364
that's the beauty of owning a gun

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antifa faggot getting punched

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>>724410112
These antifa guys wouldn't annoy me so much if they actually stood and fought. I used to hang out with some jewish guys and we'd occasionally go pick a fight with skinheads, and much fun was had by all, but with this antifa fuckers none of them will actually stand up to you, they'll just kick you when you turn your back, or run up beside/behind you and pepper spray you.

I'm all in favor of street brawling and political violence, but could we get some actual fighting, not just this cheap shit?

>>724412513
>>724412364
>>724412622

this man was armed...but apparently he decided to piss his pants in the face of danger

all talk, no action. pretty typical for a trump supporter

>>724412790
This Daniel San acting motherfucker is fucking right!!! more fighting like the good old days

>>724412846
So you are saying he should have killed them? You disgust me, pathetic.

>>724412846
So your argument isn't that antifa is peaceful or righteous, just that trump supporters won't really shoot them?

Yes, you clearly have the moral highground.

>>724412685
Damn, that's a good shot. Or someone was fucking lazy and took a snapshot of a video, still.

>>724412790
I would have shot your kike friend

>>724412513
If you consider felony assault the same thing as triggering, let's hope you're triggered soon.
Before you lamely resort to calling me a trump supporter, I didn't vote for him in the election.
I find him to be rather petulant and extremely unqualified to hold office.
Your side Is bringing it upon themselves though with the well deserved public wrath that these antics are creating - assaults, vandalism with tens to hundreds of thousands in damages, etc.
It won't be long before the SLPC labels Antifa groups as hate groups and possibly domestic terrorists by the government.
And you all will deserve it, rightfully so.

>>724412790
Wait a minute, are you against nazis or for them? I'm confused. Or are you just annoyed that other antifas won't charge heroically into battle alongside your heroic self?

>>724412846
>California
>armed in public
Lol good one, moron.

>>724412846
He is a faggot. I know for a fact that this whole bullshit would go differently had this happened to me

I guess you never actually know how you will act under stress unless you actually confront people.. shooting in a stand and feeling tactical is how to get killed 101

>>724413222
I used to fight Nazis with my jewish friends, but now I fight (tried to anyway, they won't step up to take the first swing) antifa because they're acting like fascists. Believe it or not, the enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend.

>>724412513
>fanny pack
>gun owner

keeeeeeeeeeeeek

Cali's finest

>>724413096
>>724413120

sounds like pussy talk to me
pretty typical of trump supporters

>b-b-but i have a gun! they wouldn't try that shit with me!!!!!

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>>724413595

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>>724413471
>wants to fight skinheads
>tries to start shit with antifa

>>724412364
Oklahoma anon here. Vouch for this statement.

>>724413571
:/ Ive kept my gun in a fanny pack before for event security reasons

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Jesus Christ, what the hell is going on? I thought only niggers were supposed to chimp out. And why are the Nazi LARPtards crying about violence? Are Trump supporters really just this fucking stupid? I'm not even a liberal but for fucks sake. I mean, COME ON.

>>724414922
>>>724413784

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>>724415033
It's time to get off the internet, autist. Face reality for once in your pathetic existence.

>>724411609
yeah If you pepper spray me you'll end up on /b/ under a rekt/gore thread

>>724415496
tough twumpie!

>>724413927
Oklahoma anon here as well. We had a pro Trump rally last week in OkC and today in OkC and Tulsa.
No Antifa protestors showed up causing problems.
You can guess why.

>>724415496

that's what >>724412513 this guy thought too.

and look how he turned out. pants soaked i piss and a bloody face.

>>724412513
are you some kind of fucking retard?
literally you are encouraging shit like this. does it even really fucking matter in the grand scale of things who the fuck voted for who?
its fucking done and over with now, and by encouraging people who fucking pepper spray old men and attack others for no fucking reason other than having different political ideals you are driving us further apart as a nation.
this is why i dont fucking support the left, the right may have its flaws but the left always claims to be on the "good" side of the argument then they will turn around and stab you in the fucking back, even though they claim they only want peace, but if you really want to stand for that and encourage that then you should just fucking end you life as you are nothing more than the fucking lowest form of scum.

>>724415769

because only a dozen people showed up for the pro-trump rally that people couldn't be concerned trying to interrupt such a small gathering?

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>>724415845

He was doused with water after being pepper sprayed, thus why his shirt and jacket are also wet.

>>724415593
Never said I supported him but you spray pepper in my face I'll spray bullets in yours. then spray my jizz in your /pol/faggot face.

>>724415924
sjwfag

>Be Antifa
>Oppose Fascism
>Don't understand what Fascism actually is

>>724412513
That is a lot of piss.

>>724415924
Couple thousand at the convention center last week, about 700 at the capitol today.
Such small groups.

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>>724415855
pic related a thousand times

Now to be clear here, I'm %100 okay with fucking up some skinheads, it's actually good fun, and back in the 90's my friends and I used to have good fun doing it. But here's the important part: MAKE SURE YOU'RE HURTING ACTUAL NAZIS. Someone being a republican doesn't make them a nazi, ditto for a conservative. Nazis were liberal as fuck, so the equation of nazis with basically anything on the right doesn't make a ton of sense.

"If Hillary wins we'll protest and riot and start another civil war!"
"H-h-h-h-how could they do this? They're unpatriotic animals!"

>>724416286
Fascism is anything they don't like.

>>724416370

wow, dont those people have jobs?

fucking welfare queens

>>724416592
Exactly. Only unemployed rednecks voted for trump. Just want a handout.

>>724416286
Fascism is an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. Progressives and sjws aren't that you dumb fuck now fuck off before I send a nigger to fuck you GF ass you cuckservitive

>>724416706
>now fuck off before I send a nigger to fuck you GF ass
Anon, don't reward his foolish behavior, he'd love that.

>>724416592
It's Saturday, dumbass.

>>724416706
Fascism is also strongly anti-corporate. There is literally no way Trump is Fascist.

Right wing shit You're not a progressive then you're a right winger

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS721US721&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=facism&*

>>724416706
Says the Nazi fascist.

>>724411609
Fuckers pepper spray me, they better prey I never see their asses again. I will not hesitate to burn their fucking house down.

>>724417019
MURKA! FREEDUMS! GUNS! WOOHOOO!

>>724416983
That's where the "doesn't understand what fascism is" part comes in.

>>724417132
Since when do guns burn houses down?

>>724416983
fascism = the connection of corporatism and the state

>exxon's CEO = sec of state

>>724416932
>implying all businesses dont operate on weekends

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>>724410112
Gas the kikes
.
Fuck off antitwat

>>724417009
Progressive is now known to be retarded. Berkley is the home of the largest conglomerate of teaching students to be as fucking stupid as they can be. We need to start killing off all these fucking liberal ass progressive UN-American scumbag pieces of shit.

>>724417269
militias are cool until they're against you huh?

>>724416706
>Fascism is
>Authoritarian
Yes!
>Nationalistic
Yes!
>Right-wing
No.

Dude, the nazis were liberal as fuck. They were literally a socialist party. National Socialist German Workers' Party. Socialist. As in, super left. Before you freak out at a Conservative arguing with you, I'm a liberal. I voted Hillary, even if it did leave a bad taste in my mouth. But just because we don't like trump doesn't mean we should equate the right with nazis. It doesn't reflect reality. The nazis championed the 8 hour work day, for example. They moved automotive production and healthcare partially into the government's responsibility.

Does that mean all liberals are nazis? Of course fucking not. Does that mean all liberal policies the nazis started are bad? Of course fucking not. Does any of the good things excuse the attrocities the nazis commited? Of course. Fucking. Not. Neither the democrats nor the republicans are nazis. Let's move on from this childish labeling.

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>>724417019
>tfw preying

I don't care If Trump is a nazi I hate progressives and sjws the more. Sometimes you gotta go with the lesser of two evils and if some /pol/ fag disagrees then you did your job.

>>724417198
You got to forgive him. He's a liberal progressive studying at Berkley.

>>724417367
>teaching students to be as fucking stupid as they can be
yea fuck book learnin' we need more dirt farmers to vote republican

>>724417198
>>724417480
how about you two snowflake lib cucks fuck off

>>724417565
>people on the right are so stupid they cant tell when they're insulting people who are on their side

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>>724417448
You obviously don't have a fucking clue what liberalism is. NSDAP was not liberal in the new American sense or the traditional European sense of the term. Learn your fucking politics before talking, dipshit.

>>724417482
Ya especially when the fucking books are wrong. Just because something is in a fucking book does not make it a fact you retarded fuck. Also just because your gender studies teacher says it's right and it is OK to beat up people that don't agree with you or have a different opinion doesn't make it a fact.

>>724417448
That's not what google and everyone else says. It's a right wing thing.

>>724417231
You're right - business like fast food places do work on weekends - counter protestors couldn't get off work from their McDonald's shifts to go shout and be ignored.
For real adults, we work Monday through Fridays 9-5 and have weekends off.
Or we're retired and have plenty of monthly income from good investments and retirement plans so we can attend events like this when we wish.
But don't worry - soon you'll have weekends off too - I hear they are installing self serve kiosks in fast food dives now so you uneducated counter monkies can't fuck up orders anymore.

>>724410112
lmao old sack of shit

>>724417565
I'm not the fucking snowflake. I was just pointing out that he was a Berkley retard.

Dubssssssszzzszzzz

>>724417750
>Ya especially when the fucking books are wrong.
Sorry, you're right, trump hasnt confirmed that 2+2=4 yet so all them math books is wrong

>>724417690
a fucken lib calling anyone stupid

cum to my rally boy

>>724417729
Fine, why don't you explain to me what you consider liberalism to be, and I'll point you to any examples where the nazis supported those ideas. That's fair, right?

>>724417565
Not a liberal, snowflake or cuck.
Still trying to figure out how guns burn down houses.
Is it from that shoulder thing that goes up?

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>>724417750
Cognitive dissonance must be strong to be reaching for these many straws, man.

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>>724410112

>>724417861
Ya and you retards think the US is a Democracy.

>>724417783

tell that to hard working factory employees, coal miners and line workers.

i guess they all work 9-5s like all those "real adults" folks too eh?

>>724417865
sorry, dont wanna get any of your piss on me after I spray you in the face with a little pepper spray

>>724416500
>Nazis were liberal
i know someone else who needs their brains bashed in

>>724417448
That's because google is wrong you stupid cunt. Try opening a book - start with ludwig von mises, herman hoppe, murray rothbard, Frederic bastiat

Also, look up Mussolini's definition of fascism - He created it so he must know what he is talking about

>>724417983
>implying they don't get 2 days off or more thanks to union corruption
Good try though.

>>724417917
When wrong left wing liberals rewrite history in books used at school with shit that did not happen or claim shit didn't happen that did. they are fucking wrong.

>>724417987
you spray me boy and you'll wake up in the gates of fag hell

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>>724417899
Show me primary sources of the NSDAP supporting a welfare state.

Aaaaand go!

>>724417917
>>724417861
This is just devolving into a clusterfuck of insults, so let's try to bring things back above the belt here.

Do either of you two take issue with the following statement: "Universities and academia within the west (North America and western Europe) tend to lean towards the political left,"?

If you do take issue with it, why do you do so?

>>724418094
>implying they get weekends off for their 2 days

i know, logic is a difficult concept

>>724418084
>implying words don't evolve
i guess feminism is just gender equality then huh dipshit?

Are people that fucking stupid or is it just /b/. Any fucking ideology that has total power of the government is in some kinda way almost always leads to some kinda fascism.

>>724417764

meant this one
>>724418084

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>>724418094
>getting days off is union corruption

>>724418127
Gonna need a source on that one, boss.

>>724418155
no, you'll fall to the ground crying and them come talk tough on an anonymous message board

>>724417987
even though your probly just trolling and tied to nothing. one fact remains true and that is that no matter what yoi do the world will trample you back into the basement

>>724418155
i bet you're a scrawny little stick boy who lives in his mother's basement

>>724412846
Why not say that to a Trump supporters face cause I'd beat the shit outta you

>>724416049
sure buddy. try not to teleport behind me

>>724418175
>Universities and academia within the west (North America and western Europe) tend to lean towards the political left
[citation needed]

>>724410112
lol this outrage. you triggered bro? need a safe space?

>>724418179
By your reasoning getting 2 days off on a weekend constitutes being a jobless welfare queen.
So since they get 2 days off due to unionized enforcement, guess they are welfare queens with no jobs too since really it doesn't matter where the days off fall, just that they get days off.

>>724410112
that isn't antifa, it's a bunch of liberals who want to be anarchists. True anarchists only believe in violence for defense.

>>724418342
Post your address then fucker if you're not scared.

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>>724418175
I don't. I was just pointing out the dishonest straw man that was being used when referencing an imaginary gender studies teacher.

lrn2debate

>>724418275
i make six figures, nice try friend

>>724418206
First - fascism is a political system with actual scholars behind it, it's not a socially constructed thing as a word.

For it to remain fascism the political system needs to abide by the dogmas stabilished in the beginning

In mussolini's own words - "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

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>>724418213
Shh... You'll ruin their autistic fit. Half the retards don't realize Stalin was probably more of a fascist than Hitler ever was.

>>724418362
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/6/liberal-professors-outnumber-conservatives-12-1/
Source is in the article.

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>>724416932
Whatever you say part-time.

>>724418269
life

you're welcome

Also try reading anything on the School of Frankfurt of marxist thought i.e critical theory and see for yourself

>>724418572
>washington times
hahahahahahaha, yea, come back when you have a real source

>>724418175
Yes they do. They no longer teach right from wrong and that if anyone disagrees with you or have a different opinion than you, you have the right to call them names like racist, cis, Islamophob and can do what ever you want and there is no consequences for your actions.

>>724418362
So if I could provide you with a reputable source supporting this claim you'd acquiesce to the claim?

>>724418442
I just jumped in mate, that was literally my first post you're responding to.

>>724418657
where where you when bowling green happened?

>>724418352
try not be a pussy and post your location or gtfo

>>724418711
>So if I could provide you with a reputable source supporting this claim you'd acquiesce to the claim?
someone knows how to use a thesaurus, impressive

>>724418578
Nah, I'm salaried. I work as little as 34 hours a week and as much as 50 depending on my workload and when I feel like working.
Perks of management. You wouldn't understand.

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>>724418657
>implying I don't have The Authoritarian Personality PDF in my cloud storage as we speak
Life isn't a source, bucko. Gonna have to try harder than that.

The autism in this thread is rich. Include me in the screencap as anime anon.

>>724418712
Never heard of it (I googled it to be sure) why?

>>724418666
How did I know one of you faggots was going to say that?
Oh that's right, because liberals are broken fucking records with their excuses.

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gonna make it real simple for you fucks

>>724418794
Just answer the question, because I don't want to have to go through the trouble of finding multiple reputable sources if you aren't willing to consider the evidence if I do find it.

>>724418893
You're just gonna resort to name calling? Typical.

>>724417448

>Nazis were socialists

I could hit you over the head with a club and call myself a pacifist, doesn't make it true.

>>724418883
because it's history you boy trump's press bitch made up

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>>724418898
Just... don't.

>>724418666
Said source was in the article, faggot. Can you not read?
https://econjwatch.org/articles/faculty-voter-registration-in-economics-history-journalism-communications-law-and-psychology

>>724419021
they're both crooks. if you don't know how to talk shit on hillary without pretending trump isn't a dumber version of her then just keep your memes to yourself

>>724418269
When you live threw it and know as a fact because you witnessed it, makes it a fact. Going threw life with your eyes closed only listening to what the media tells you and what someone else tells you and not remembering shit you were a witness to is brainwashing.

>>724419045
You could also be called conservative even if you went out of your way to improve working conditions, increase government regulation in business, and appropriated large businesses for the government.

>>724419010
Responds like a faggot, quotes like a faggot...

>>724419137
>econjwatch.org
hahahahahahaha, yea, come back when you have a real source

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>>724419072
try and stop me bitch

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>>724419153

>>724418878
Then fucking read it and learn why altering historical facts is important to cultural marxism, since there is no right or wrong to the revolutionary mind
BTW - empirical data, i.e life is a fucking source you faggot.

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>>724411647
Nothing IS more cuck than being a fascist

>>724418362
Citations:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/div-classtitlepolitical-diversity-will-improve-social-psychological-sciencea-hrefen01-ref-typefnspan-classsup1spanadiv/A54AD4878AED1AFC8BA6AF54A890149F

http://heterodoxacademy.org/2015/09/14/bbs-paper-on-lack-of-political-diversity/

The latter is the actual source for the lack of political diversity (which is caused by a majority left leaning), and the former is just a paper you might find interesting if you think that overt bias within academia is a good thing.

>>724419212
And the faggot responds again, here's your (You)

>>724419212
What is your problem with his source? Specifically, I mean.

>>724419051
who dafuq said I support trump?

I'm anarchocapitalist, trump can eat a dick as far as I care

>>724419342
>right wing websites for citations
hahahahahahaha, yea, come back when you have a real source

>>724419276
>empirical data, i.e life
sure, just say words

>>724419430
Scientific method.. ever heard of it?

there is a way to analyze and draw conclusions from empirical data

>>724419419
bruh its cambridge

>>724419412
>I'm anarchocapitalist
aww that's cute. the hipster's pretending to understand how society works.

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>>724418043
dumb cunt stormfag, Nazis are self-describe national SOCIALISTS. Do you know what a SOCIALIST is? Answer: a liberal faggot, a marxist, a big-government centralized power statist. The only difference between liberal faggot socialist A and liberal faggot socialist B is which particular policies they want to tyrannically oppress people with, but both A and B agree on the means and method of tyrannical oppression via massive, freedom-eliminating government.

So fuck you and your liberal faggot prolapsed ass.

>>724419419
Hahahahahaha come back when you have a real rebuttal.

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>>724419161
You haven't done much reading in all that time then because you'd have learned through Quigley's material that it's the establishment itself that poses as some kind of communist subverter. Geez, it's like I have to do everything. Don't you silly willies know anything?
>IT'S DA JOOS!
>IT'S DA COMMIES!
>IT'S DA LIBERULS!

>>724419232
Liberals are more authoritarian since they support the welfare state, etc. but don't let me stop you from sperging out, sonny.

>>724419276
>neurons in my brain that vaguely resemble reality in a different time that you don't have access to is empirical data
He's going all out! Read my first reply, you silly goose.

>>724419419
You think Cambridge is fucking right wing? Jesus, do you live in fucking North Korea? What organizations would you consider left?

>>724419565
so you only trust these "liberal schools" when they post something that confirms your belief?

>>724419563
>>724419563
so the scientist walks into his boss's office and drops his evidence on the table. the boss picks is up and it's just a sheet of paper that says "life". mind blown

>>724419732
I'm the one who posted it, not the person you responded to, and yes, I do trust cambridge, because I'm liberal.

>>724419565
Can't you fucking see what he's doing? It's a common leftist tactic to attack the source or the person carrying the idea to divert attention from the fact that they can't disprove you.

Aristotelian rationality is poisonous to leftists, that's why they preach that there is no right or wrong only points of view... it's too easy to dismiss anything that you say by accusing you of being bias

>>724419412
lol anarcho capitalist makes no sense. no actual anarchist believes in capitalism.

>>724411609
That's the problem with assholes. They can't take shit they can only dish it out

>>724419732
im neutral but you're calling an extremely liberal school right wing

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>>724419419
>pulls up buzzfeed
hahahahahahaha yea, come back when you realize the times left and right wing sites have lied dumb cunt. A progressive on /b/ either you're a 12 year old looking for nigger dick pics or you're spanking it to traps.

>>724413571
If you see a middle aged man with a fanny pack in CA, and he looks like the type that might wear woodland camouflage or vote third party, he's probably packing heat.

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>>724419672
>welfare state
>authoritarian

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>>724419639
You shouldn't be in this discussion. Make a list of all the parallels between NSDAP German policy and contemporary American liberal policy.

>>724419863
>It's a common leftist tactic to attack the source or the person carrying the idea to divert attention from the fact that they can't disprove you.
Dude. The source. Is. Fucking. Cambridge. It's left as fuck. If he's trying to attack it on the grounds of being too far left, he only has so many places left to run. Unless he's literally a soviet style communist, there's only so far left he can go.

Normally I embrace the chaos of this site but this is just getting sad. There's some potentially interesting political discussion waiting to happen here, but there's too many people running around throwing insults and condescension instead of actually trying to talk.

>inb4 do you know where you are?

>>724419981
You're right. Why am I participating in a discussion between retards? I don't belong, being that I actually know what I'm talking about.

Political philosophy much?

>>724419672
I've done much reading. I also have two degrees and I'm in my 50's so fuck off you Berkley snowflake. I bet you think the US is a Democracy too.

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>>724419980
Nice false equivalence. The welfare state can be just as tyrannical as anything else assuming you raised taxes high enough. Your argument is weak and stupid.

>>724420136
because this is /b/

>>724420136
Do you know where you are and who you're dealing with?
(Changed it up some for ya)

>>724419598
I dont pretend shit, that's why I don't try to run it - kek

You are the one who needs leaders and like to suck government cock

I'm too dumb to live my life.. please uncle sam regulate my life and tell me what to eat, study and see. Oh and while you're at it, make me waste my finite time on stupid beurocracy waiting in line like nice little sheep in order to get my permits, while a fat black woman that majored in the liberal arts pretend to work

You are all faggots. Why aren't you all anarchists yet? Why do you all still believe in the state?? You're all dumbfucks, my god

ITT liberals try to argue about politics while ignoring citations, logic, and common sense.

>>724412281
it doesnt work that way. saying one thing and meaning the other is autism, especially if you actually believe your own bullshit doublespeak

>>724420228
what do you think about this >>724419342

This is a pretty solid argument supported by left-wing sources, so I'm curious what rebuttal you might offer.

>>724420341
>citations, logic, and common sense
all fake news

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>>724420191
You couldn't draw a single source earlier to back up what you said but sure, whatever you have to tell yourself.

>>724420213
Thanks for addressing the topic and not diving into stupid insults and irrelevant bullshit. I don't care if you were 100 with 20 degrees.

>>724420278
I'm fairly close to anarchist. I still think there should be some very limited local laws and services, but anything bigger than state can fuck off.

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>>724419811
YOU DONT FUCKING KNOW WHAT THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IS?????? AND YOU EXPECT TO BE HEARD?

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

There you go anon, pull your head out of your ass - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

>>724419333
tripping trips dont lie

>>724420434
A peer reviewed study from Cambridge is fake news?

>>724420341
conservatards are the queens of ignoring peer-reviewed science

>>724420498
everything that goes against conservatives is so why not everything that goes against liberals?

>>724420556
So are liberals when it suits them.

>>724417783
I have never seen anyone more out of touch with the rest of the world.

>>724419981
>>724420452
Okay, to clarify here, what exactly makes you think that the nazis aren't socialists? I can understand if you might say they don't fit the bill because of certain human rights issues, but from an economic standpoint, they were almost textbook socialist.

Could you be specific as to what makes you say they weren't socialist at all?

>>724420019
As I said, normal logic doesn't apply to leftists.. that's why some people suggest that it's a mental disorder

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>>724420670
not bad
more?

>>724420645
Because it was made by liberals?

Really though, could we not do this? Let's just look at the facts and make judgements accordingly. We're talking about a peer reviewed study, so if we think there's something wrong with their methodology, we can point out specifically what they did wrong, and discuss it.

Let's talk with facts and reason here, not labels and insults.

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>>724420341

>me right now

>>724420670
This get my wittle socialwist weiner wet how old is she any older than 12 my dick goes soft.

>>724420862
so why do you only believe in liberal facts when it suits you?

>>724419898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXw1CSmOZzE

I could point out 20 books to you my an-com fag, but you prob wont read it.. so watch this, it's pretty concise

>>724420734
>normal logic doesn't apply to leftists
Could we please not do this childish labeling thing. I am a leftist. I voted for clinton, even if it did leave a bad taste in my mouth. Whether you're on the left or the right doesn't decide whether or not you're an idiot, and we shouldn't be afraid to call out people from our own party, which is what I've been trying to do here.

When you write them all off as idiots, you're just denigrating yourself.

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>>724420427
NSDAP was a result of a period of conflict. Western civilization had entered into a period of conflict prior to this point already twice with similar effects of totalitarian domination. How does that make it "leftist"?

>>724420718
When did I say they didn't have socialist elements? Jesus fucking Christ. All you people do is think in terms of black and white. I was disputing your original claim that they weren't LIBERALS, which they were NOT.

I'm going for a smoke. This is retarded.

example? and dont use some psychology article as an example, any real scientist knows psychology is still a baby science at best, with almost no tangible data.

>>724421181
this was for you until the captcha took a shit
>>724420652

>>724421003
No, I believe in facts when they're facts; when they're supported by sources that freely disclose their methodology so we can look and see if they did anything wrong.

Forget about liberals. Forget about conservatives. If you have an issue with the Cambridge study, look at it tell me specifically what they did wrong.

I'm not here to argue labels and allegiance, I'm here to debate facts, and with any luck learn some things, if there's anyone who's willing to actually talk things through.

>>724421181
You're an idiot, my god.

>>724420734
a majority of educated people and especially scientists lean left. explain that? they dont have your hurr durr common sense and faith based ideology?

>>724421116
>they weren't LIBERALS, which they were NOT.
I actually haven't made that claim, but sorry if I misread something along the line. Could you explain what definition of liberal you're using so we can avoid confusing terms in the future?

>>724421295
you believe obama wire tapped trump tower, dont you

>>724421092
Have you ever read marx? Logic is a form of thinking - marx himself in the preface of Das Kapital said that his belief system is the exact opposite of the Hegelian form of thinking, a form that came from the father of logic Plato.

To a marxist there is only what is good to the revolution and what is bad to the revolution, remember that Stalin started the WWII with hitler by his side (he even invaded Poland), next year the nazis were their lifelong enemy.

You have no clue what you are talking about fried

>>724421442
This is the first time I've ever heard about that idea, so I really don't have any strong leaning either way.

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>>724421116
>NSDAP was a result of a period of conflict. Western civilization had entered into a period of conflict prior to this point already twice with similar effects of totalitarian domination. How does that make it "leftist"?
Are you implying you can have a socialist right wing party? The two terms seem contradictory.

>>724421364
I'm an engineer. I can think circles around you. And yes psychology barely uses MRIs or any tangible data. Just feelings and interpretations of feelings. It's largely nonsense.

>>724420670
ugly face, you have shit standards

>>724421660
hey man, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

unless you're on the right, then its a dick

>>724421533
What you just said has literally no bearing on my post whatsoever, and I challenge you to explain otherwise, because to me it looks like you're just trying to flash some political esoterica in my face and hope I don't have a way to respond.

>>724421782
lel

>>724421442
He did say it was OK to spy in US citizens and it was OK to kill US citizens outside the US. It wouldn't surprise me.

>>724421898
>implying bush didnt start this

%triforce

>>724422003
>implying that makes it okay for Obama to continue butt fucking America
>"No officer, it's fine, I swear, there was some other guy here raping her before I started!"

>>724421394
I could tell you a number of reasons

1 - leftism is a cult, people actually feel morally superior by being leftist and since well educated people have been in a college envyroment their whole life they have been indoctrinated to feel this way.

2 - Money, by being a scientist if you actually side with uncle sam you can get federal funds and sponsorship to your research.

3 - Good old pride: Ludwig von Mises stated that the problem with socialism is that since the state dictates the price is just impossible to process all the information (demand and supply) of everything in every place - people like stephen hawking have the feeling that they can know more than 6 billion people collectively and predict all of their desires at the same time take in account the desires of every business owner

Google mises 6 lessons and learn what praxeology is and you will understand

>>724422003
Bush started it and I didn't like him either. Obama just renewed it when it was about to run out.

The Fuck is Antifa?

>>724422094
why hasnt trump stopped it

>>724416706
Before you try and educate people about politics, at least try to educate yourself so you don't look like such an utter prick.

I'm noticing a pattern in this thread. Whenever someone comes in expecting the liberals to actually make a cogent argument, they try to provoke them, then ignore them if the won't bite.

Whenever someone comes in shouting about the damn libcucks, and won't actually debate so much as shout half baked political theory along with insults, suddenly the liberals are feeling quite chatty!

>>724422098
lol federal funding. wow such riches of 50000 a year. as if the oil companies don't have enormous sums of disposable income to blow on bad science and political lobbying. What industry can afford to lobby for science research that would bring down the oil industry? Everything else you said can be reversed to say "rightism" and is therefore irrelevant conjecture.

>>724421533
There is nothing esoteric about what I said- if you ever read Marx you would know damn well what I'm talking about.


You are no leftist, you are just a conformist like the rest of the sheeple

>>724422245
Because he hasn't had time? Because something is stopping him? Because he doesn't care? Because he's a terrible person who doesn't care about liberty?

I don't know, ask Trump.

>>724421310
this always gets me, i should look up how che was ever considered a hero enough to put on a shirt. i think 90% of it is from that shitty band rage against the machine

>>724422284
this

>>724422361
>Because he hasn't had time?
plenty of time to golf every weekend though

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>>724421425
I assumed you were the guy who said that so it doesn't really matter. I don't know who the hell I'm talking to at this point.

>>724421628
Find me an example of a purely socialist or a purely capitalist society. To what degree exactly was NSDAP Germany socialist? Where are the PRIMARY SOURCES for these claims? Saying that they had "socialist" in the name is a weak argument. I guess I'm a Greek god if I titled myself Apollo too? Come on, man. Things are way more complicated than "socialism vs. capitalism."

>>724422098
And I only support regulated capitalism which is essentially capitalism with socialist aspects. The free market cannot operate when all you have left are oligopolies. Please tell me an major industry left in America that isn't a monopoly or oligopoly? Really. Name one.

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>>724421295
You're too good for this thread, too pure. Please, take that goodwill, that reason and faith in humanity, and take it somewhere else. It doesn't belong here.

Or just start flinging shit with the rest of us, that would work too.

>>724422330
Who said people on the right wing do the same? I'm an anarchist, I don't support lobbying on either sides

and I meant federal funding on a college level - whole departments in the liberal arts that wouldn't exist without uncle sam - that's why the student loan bubble is over 1 trillion dollars today

>>724422439
It was one item on a list of possible options. I considered added "Because aliens are mind controlling him?" to make the flippant nature of the answer more obvious, but it seemed to heavy handed.

>>724422483
>I assumed you were the guy who said that so it doesn't really matter. I don't know who the hell I'm talking to at this point.
That's totally understandable, but if you'd be so kind, could you share the definition of liberalism that you're using?

>>724415593
Fuck off underage keyboard warrior

>>724422600
well i think most liberal arts are garbage so I'm with you there. Hence why I hate psychology and political 'science.' I also hate business for the most part. Economic theory is largely a joke as well. They never look at all the data and they assume too many things are static to simplify their arguments.

>>724421295
You're a real human being. I usually ignore the text and look at the pictures because this is 4chan and everybody is a fucking retard on purpose or at birth. But you shouldn't expect that here, you want an actual forum with username and login.

>>724413156
>I didn't vote in the election

The fuck off. You surrendered, you never get to bitch about a single fucking issue facing this country.

>>724411719
>>724411806

Samefag
Gb2redditpls

>>724420419
You sound like a child with that terrible rationalization.

>>724422492
So let me get this straight... you are planning to fight a monopoly by siding with the biggest monopoly in the world i.e the government

keeeeeeeek

inb4 you ask me why, the definition of governmet is the monopoly of fucking force

oh, and it's almost impossible to hold a monopoly in a free market, in the whole american history there were only 2 and they were beneficial

>>724422483
>Where are the PRIMARY SOURCES for these claims?
Kind of fighting your own (or possibly your compatriot's, this discussion is falling apart a bit) logic here, aren't you? If you're demanding primary sources, you shouldn't write off the party's own claims.

>Well just because the Nazis said that they're socialist and passed socialist policies doesn't actually make them socialist!
>I'll need some primary sources now!
You're kind of writing off the best primary sources if you discount the work of actual nazis.

Though again, that might not have been you, and if it wasn't, I can find you some translated documents about the socialist reforms in pre-war Germany.

>>724412790
Exactly I want some fucking Gangs of New York style shit to go down. Dead Rabbits!!!

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>>724422893
No you said antifa is fascism. That is an oxymoron and literally makes no sense. It is retarded.

>>724412513
Great another internet tough guy playing hardass on 4chan. What else is new?

>>724422927
not gonna happen when the right does nothing but piss their pants

>>724422600
That's why we should actually leave the economic production to the people who actually do something i.e business owners and consumers i.e free market capitalism

The whole aspect of regulated capitalism comes from economic theory and scholars that try to spew rules for everybody

>>724422896
A democratic government is far from a monopoly of power. Look at all the obstruction trump and Obama encountered. That is how democracy works. You can't always get what you want.

>>724422990
Not really, because it assumes that the title of the organization is a hardline guide that they can never break. It's like saying police can't commit crimes because they're officers of the peace.

>>724422790
>>724423071


I'm almost falling asleep.. clicked on the wrong thingy

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>>724421295
I think there's a very good reason none of these libcucks are actually trying to debate you on this one. Keep doing what you're doing /b/rother.

>>724422990
maybe hes saying that antifa has become so aggressive with their approach with violence that its comparable to the nazi's actions in europe.

>>724423097
But the guideline they follow is to break guidelines. That's a huge simplification using your rhetoric but it holds true in context.

>>724423090
They control the fucking army with nukes.. try to get a nuke for yourself and get a taste of the force monopoly.

democracy is a meme

Read a book called Democracy the god that failed

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>>724423225
You must be aggressive to fight fascism before it takes hold. I will fight to the death to fight fascism. I may lean left but I love my guns.

>>724423238
>But the guideline they follow is to break guidelines.
Okay, this is literally a contradiction (or possibly a paradox? An oxymoron? I'm not clear on the difference between the three when used in a literary sense), because if your guideline is to break guidelines you wouldn't follow your guideline and you'd just follow the rules.

"This statement is false", that kind of thing.

>>724423331
Violence never really deals with the basic evil of the situation

>>724423090
I was born a free human being and I should "get as I want" as long as I'm not harming anybody - why a fucking nigger, a cunt with an ugly moustache or a fag with an ugly wig can tell me what to do? It's stupid

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>>724421216
he also attended child sex parties as an adult and protected the rapists

>>724423326
A book of opinions? No thanks. Democracy is an idea that will never be fully realized but that is a good thing. Just like the pursuit of happiness, they never guarantee it because it's impossible. Most people are too stupid anyway. The three branches of government work as long as lobbying is curbed, which it currently isnt.

>>724423507
No one person is telling you what you can do. Society as a whole is. You can't fight a 150 million people and win.

>>724423090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A&t=686s

just watch this anon

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>>724422688
Sure and check'd.

American liberals are, in simple terms, socialists who typically favor the expansion of the welfare state, value equality, women's rights, etc.

European liberalism, or in the US "classical liberalism," implies 18th-century ideas based on respecting the individual and valuing liberty, rights, etc. and is typically tied in with capitalism.

>>724422902
I'm not a national socialist and I have a hard time taking a lot of that stuff seriously because they obviously used a lot of propaganda. Saying that they're socialists because they have socialist policies is super reductive. I'm sure it also had capitalist elements as well so why not call it capitalist? Same logic.

>>724423631
tl;dr

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>>724423070
Guess you didn't see stick man fucking shit up

>>724423671
dafuq?

>>724423498
violence is an unfortunate solution, but it is a solution nonetheless. Those who respond most readily to fear will be the first to fall in line.

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>>724423631
>not an argument

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>>724423659
>Saying that they're socialists because they have socialist policies is super reductive. I'm sure it also had capitalist elements as well so why not call it capitalist? Same logic.
To be honest? Because if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, demands to be called a duck, but just happens to have some free market elements interspersed between all its heavily regulated markets, we should just call it a duck.

>>724423671
just watch the fucking video in order to stop being a government cuck

>>724423886
wannabe oldfag

>>724423859
I'm not arguing - I want this anon to watch this video and hopefully stop believing in the government

This narrator is way more eloquent than me

>>724423849
Would you consider the old man who got maced in the face to be a frontline warrior for fascism or a civilian who in accordance to the Geneva Conventions are to be given mercy?

>>724423886
I know what it means fag - I said dafuq because his attention span is so short that he cant watch a fucking video entirely

>>724423659
Okay, so let's break this down then. Nazis.

Are they:

>Socialists
Certainly. Not only did they identify as socialist, they were world leaders in worker's rights, state welfare programs (to the point where they literally conquered countries for the specific purpose of enabling welfare), and they were in favor of (and implemented, in many cases) government controlled industry and healthcare.

They had some capitalist elements, yes, but it was *far* from what we'd call an open market considering that Hitler's entire plan was based on a self sufficient Germany, so there was little to no trade with the outside world, and even internal trade was heavily influenced by government subsidy and export bans.

So from a standpoint of economic policy, I'd conclude that they were socialist.

Before we move on, do you disagree with any of my conclusions or statements? If so, why?

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>>724417394
militias are great. communists are not.

>>724424113
if he was screaming in peoples faces within the legal boundaries of 'personal space,' then he deserved it and should be old enough to know that was coming.

>>724424516
>Molyneux sucks dicks.
Finally, something we agree on!

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>>724424742
If you're that desperate for an internet debate win, take it by all means. I don't care and I'm not just going to take some random asshole's words on it without seeing proper primary sources or a competent and trustworthy secondary source. Not everyone is as simple minded and easy to convince as you are, anonkun :3

>>724410473
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravan_of_Death


In May 2016, Chile's Supreme Court asked the United States to extradite Larios, Michael V. Townley and Virgillo Paz Romero, all three of whom were linked to the Sept. 21, 1976, car-bombing murders of Ex-Chilean Ambassador Orlando Letellier and American Ronni Moffatt in Washington, D.C.

>Michael de Fuckin' Santa

>>724416500
reactionary

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>>724417942
What the fuck is going on here?

>>724425265
>If you're that desperate for an internet debate win
I don't care about the win, I was just hoping to learn some shit at some point in this thread, but no one actually had any substantial arguments to make, just insults and half baked political rhetoric.

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>>724420670
Looks good to me?

>>724424355
God damn those people are ugly even by mug-shot standards!

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>>724425346
>half baked political rhetoric
See
>>724424323

I have to shower. Good evening, gentlemen.